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Campbell 'hindered' by ankle sprain

When Jason Campbell spoke to the media after Monday night's game, he mentioned that the bye week was needed to get a number of players healthy, "including myself," he said.

That was a bit of a revelation. The Redskins quarterback went on to say that he sprained his right ankle on Washington's third play from scrimmage, and the injury badly slowed his mobility during the 27-17 loss to the Eagles.

"The one thing that hindered me is not being able to run, from having a bad ankle, so that kind of hindered," he said.

He said the injury affected his decision-making because he knew he couldn't plant quickly and throw, and he also knew he couldn't scramble for first downs. On the first play of the second quarter, for instance, Campbell moved outside the pocket and was going to look downfield for Santana Moss.

"When I got outside the pocket, I was going to take a shot deep to 'Tana," Campbell said. "Usually I would try to tuck that ball and run it, but I can't run, so the guy ended up stripping the ball from behind. Great play by him."

Philadelphia linebacker Will Witherspoon -- who had already picked off a Campbell pass and returned it for a touchdown -- easily caught Campbell and caused him to fumble, leading to the field goal that put the Eagles up 17-0.

"I have to secure the ball on that, just knowing that the guy's coming behind me," Campbell said.

Campbell was sacked six times, and he rushed four times for eight yards. He now has 24 rushes for 103 yards on the season.

Only two quarterback's -- Green Bay's Aaron Rodgers and Kansas City's Matt Cassel -- have been sacked more than Campbell's 20 times. After fumbling seven times all of last season -- and losing just one -- Campbell has fumbled 10 times this season, losing three.

By Barry Svrluga  |  October 27, 2009; 10:58 AM ET
 
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Comments

First to say why haven't Zorn and Cerrato been fired yet?!?!?!?!

Posted by: gixxer998 | October 27, 2009 11:07 AM | Report abuse

More excuses for the Campbell apologist to serve to the masses.

F him and his ankle.

Posted by: RedDMV | October 27, 2009 11:11 AM | Report abuse

More excuses for the Campbell apologist to serve to the masses.

F him and his ankle.

Posted by: RedDMV | October 27, 2009 11:11 AM
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If only the Skins had Cutler and not a couple of first round picks! He could make Stephon Heyer look like Jonathon Ogden.

Posted by: jesuisunpizza | October 27, 2009 11:13 AM | Report abuse

"After fumbling seven times all of last season -- and losing just one -- Campbell has fumbled 10 times this season, losing three." Having some kind of offensive line would help out this situation, right?

Holy s**t people are still posting? So I see the Bench Campbell and Campbell sucks posts. Man if we had Jay Cutler I'm sure the Skins would be 6-1. LOL. What's more pathetic then these easy QB is the major problem posts, was the crowd turnout last night. I thought their was a revolution against the front office? I'm sure Snyder did a killing last night. Thanks for keeping his pockets straight.

Did anyone else see those losers in their Hogs gear? Jesus that's so 1991, please stop wearing those outfits. And you wonder why Snyder & Cerrato can continue to put out a terrible product, but somehow be able to make major money. Campbell did miss some throws, but he also made some throws as well. Moss dropped a TD and ARE with another terrible punt return performance.

I haven't even gotten to the MAJOR reason the Skins offense sucks this year. Our offensive line is the worst in the league. Not even Adrian Peterson would be able to have a run of longer than 20 yards with this line. Drew Brees wouldn't be able to have a passing game of 350 yards and 4 TD's with this sorry excuse for an offensive line.

Clinton Portis is finished and I think last night just reinforced that issue. Skins need to draft nothing but offensive lineman in the 1st 3 rounds of the 2010 draft. Colt can be the QB next season and boy that'll be a 3-13 team. We need to rebuild this offense and the line comes 1st. Portis will have to grind it out 1 more season, until we can draft a top RB. After Colt stinks it up next year we'll probably have to draft a QB in the 1st round.

Maybe Thomas, Davis & Kelly can show some promise the rest of the way. Damn DeSean Jackson is a player. To bad we didn't draft him. Oh well the season is over and I hope the fans stop going to the games. I doubt that will happen. Thank god for the Caps and the Wiz. Wiz season starts tonight can't wait. Go WIZ!

Posted by: trueredskinsfan | October 27, 2009 11:14 AM | Report abuse

He is also hindered by the fact that he is just not a good quarterback and lacks the guts to stand in and make a play.

Posted by: mjwies11 | October 27, 2009 11:14 AM | Report abuse

GREAT time to insert Todd Collins.

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 27, 2009 11:15 AM | Report abuse

...the hell?

What happened to the post about Redskins nation offering advice?

Posted by: JohnnyRyde | October 27, 2009 11:16 AM | Report abuse

no one is suggesting that Cutler would make a difference. What we're saying is that Campbell is not making a difference.

Why are you talking about Cutler?? Is this that hard to follow...wtf...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 27, 2009 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Redskins won, 17-14!

Lo and behold:

A tipped pass was intercepted by the new Eagles middle linebacker, Will Witherspoon, and returned nine yards for a touchdown. On the next Redskins offensive series, a hobbled Jason Campbell (ankle) suffered a sack and a strip and the Eagles converted that turnover into a field goal.

The special teams got into the act (a comedy act, in some regards) when Antwaan Randle El attempted to catch a punt with his facemask. He failed, the Eagles recovered and kicked another field goal.

Posted by: RedCherokee | October 27, 2009 11:16 AM | Report abuse

"I feel like he's done some real good things and a few bad things, like everyone," Snyder said. "There's no one in this business who doesn't make mistakes."

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/redskins/2009-07-25-dan-snyder_N.htm?obref=obinsite

Guys, take heart. Your owner can be critical of Vinny (sarcasm intended).

Posted by: nojunk4me | October 27, 2009 11:19 AM | Report abuse

from last post addressing paskinsfan's strange QB philosophies:

I am sorry PAskinsfan17, but I have stopped buying what you sell after your list of mediocre to bad QBs who won SBs (including by the way stabler, bradshaw and namath)

But your talking out the corner of your mouth now: Orton with Bears 21-12. So wait was he average on crappy bears teams. Or were the bears good. Or were the bears mediocre and he elevated their play? So confused...Your circular firing squad logic is astounding.

Posted by: chrislarry | October 27, 2009 11:20 AM | Report abuse

I disagree a bit. Campbell has the guts to stay in... making the play is an entirely different skill set....

....LACK...

Posted by: DikShuttle | October 27, 2009 11:20 AM | Report abuse

Skins are probably going to have a top-5 pick. Hopefully, they will have a new GM who can trade down to a low first and and additional second round pick. this team needs to maximize the number of picks it gets in the first three rounds. With the exception of Dockery, the whole o-line should be replaced with young players. Don't draft a QB this year, we won't be able to protect him. Get a season under the belt of some young talented o-linemen and draft the QB in 2011.

Posted by: mhaslup1 | October 27, 2009 11:22 AM | Report abuse

I'm talking about Cutler because this team would be down even more draft picks for a player who has performed similarly to Campbell this year (and actually, over their careers).

I'm just happy that the Skins have their draft picks, and that this awful season wasn't made awfuler by having no chance of drafting linemen in the next few years.

Campbell is done here, no doubt. But I'm mildly pleased the Skins don't have the double albatross of similarly performing QB with a big contract AND no draft picks to get better with.

Posted by: jesuisunpizza | October 27, 2009 11:22 AM | Report abuse

I didn't think Campbell looked that bad. Yeah, his mobility was suspect, but with that O-line, he's not going to get much time to throw anyway. With Cooley out, probably for the season, that's not going to improve as we saw last night.

My one knock on Campbell is that he's too quick to throw the ball away. Now, obviously I'm not there seeing the reads like he is, so maybe he's got nothing to throw at; but when they are losing, and running out of time, he needs to force a few plays. Sure, he might get picked off a few more times, but take a chance now and then.

The NFC East isn't that good this year; the Eagles and Giants are not the teams they were. So, maybe they can pick up a few surprise wins against division rivals so that there is something to grow on. Games against NO, Denver and San Diego should be ugly.

Posted by: oldtimehockey | October 27, 2009 11:22 AM | Report abuse

So, whats left to say... all the negative stuff remains the same.

Soooo... the few bright spots? Fred Davis stepped up and had a decent game. I believe he had as many yards in this single game as he's had in all previous games. And his first TD. Although he did try to jump again... dude, seriously, stop doing that! Your a big beefy TE, put both hands around the ball and bull forward for the extra yards.

DT11 had some catches and his first recieving TD. Bright spot. And coulda had 2, looked like he was open on the same play until the center/QB exchange SJK'ed.

With the bye week, hopefully Levi Jones can get up to speed and improve the LT spot, moving Heyer back to RT and BMW71 to RG. They could use a big guy inside, with Will Montgomery undersized and Rhino an afterthought.

CP didnt get many chances with the team trailing. But a few of his runs were quick and hard. He looked to be runnning his hardest of the season.

Posted by: VaBeachBlitz | October 27, 2009 11:24 AM | Report abuse

chasgriffin

"So now we need new starters at QB, OT (both), G, C, CB, OLB, RB."
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True.

And the sad thing is, the offensive linemen could've been had in the '08 and '09 drafts.

Which again goes back to the guy picking the players: is Vinny Cerrato still so arrogant in the defense of his selection of talent that he can't see that it's his lack of sound judgement and not the fault of 'playcalling' or anything else?

Posted by: MistaMoe
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Yeah, I mean I'm really happy we have Orakpo, Jarmon, and AH... but no reasonably competent front office would find themselves needing new starters at MOST of the positions within one of the most critical units (Oline), and then act like they're shocked at the on-field results, as Vinny and Danny have.

Posted by: chasgiffen | October 27, 2009 11:25 AM | Report abuse

from last post addressing paskinsfan's strange QB philosophies:

I am sorry PAskinsfan17, but I have stopped buying what you sell after your list of mediocre to bad QBs who won SBs (including by the way stabler, bradshaw and namath)

But your talking out the corner of your mouth now: Orton with Bears 21-12. So wait was he average on crappy bears teams. Or were the bears good. Or were the bears mediocre and he elevated their play? So confused...Your circular firing squad logic is astounding.

Posted by: chrislarry | October 27, 2009 11:20 AM | Report abuse

There's nothing circular about it. You're just too dumb to understand it. He started for the Bears last year and they had the 26th ranked offense. He started for them in 2005 and they had the 29th ranked offense.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | October 27, 2009 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Shouldn't that headline be:

"Ankle hinders Campbell who in turn hinders Redskins.....again"

Posted by: Gweez | October 27, 2009 11:26 AM | Report abuse

"Only two quarterback's -- Green Bay's Aaron Rodgers and Kansas City's Matt Cassel -- have been sacked more than Campbell's 20 times. After fumbling seven times all of last season -- and losing just one -- Campbell has fumbled 10 times this season, losing three."

Shouldn't surprise anyone, and it's the QB's fault.

Aaron Rodgers was sacked 34 times last season, for 6.8 yards per loss. Cassel was even worse -- 47 sacks, despite playing behind the same line that keeps Tom Brady's uniform clean.

Rodgers is a scrambler, one of those QBs who likes to run around until somebody comes open. Cassel just plain holds the ball, a la Jason Campbell.

Please note that despite the sacks, Rodgers, Cassel, and their spiritual mentor, the Sack King Ben Roethlisberger, had very fine seasons last year.

Sacks do not bad seasons make. But they do lead to fumbles.

Posted by: Samson151 | October 27, 2009 11:26 AM | Report abuse

thanks for talking about trades that never happened....just awesome...

can you redo the whole season, and put Brady in at qb, and let us know how that goes, oh, and have him enter fedex on a unicorn, surrounded by leprechauns...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 27, 2009 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Maybe Thomas, Davis & Kelly can show some promise the rest of the way. Damn DeSean Jackson is a player. To bad we didn't draft him.
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Yeah, and maybe Adrian Peterson instead of DooRonRon Landry, right? Well, if ifs & buts were candy and nuts, what a great Christmas we'd have.

Posted by: chasgiffen | October 27, 2009 11:27 AM | Report abuse

At the very least it would have been interesting to see Colt play with this group...not saying he would have done well or done poorly, but I would have liked to see it. Would have enticed me to actually turn on the TV and watch us after the bye week...

Posted by: mattylight | October 27, 2009 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Campbell was hindered by his own sh*tty play.

Posted by: Original_etrod | October 27, 2009 11:28 AM | Report abuse

So, it actually WASN'T the play calling?! Shocking.

These guys stink.

[Well, except for "on paper," where they clearly have "the most talent in the league."]

Posted by: 4-12 | October 27, 2009 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Late in the MNF game I started having Patrick Ramsey flashbacks. Every time an offensive lineman (no pun intended) bent over to peel Campbell off the turf, I found myself yelling at the screen, "Stay down, Jason! It's just not worth it!"

Posted by: skinssox01 | October 27, 2009 11:28 AM | Report abuse

When was the last time the Skins took an OL in the first two rounds?

googled it myself: Chris Samuels in 2000. Nine years relying on patchwork has caught up to this team.

Posted by: jesuisunpizza | October 27, 2009 11:28 AM | Report abuse

GREAT time to insert Todd Collins.

Posted by: 4thFloor
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Great time to get Chase back (if possible) and see if he'd develop into something.

Posted by: chasgiffen | October 27, 2009 11:29 AM | Report abuse

If they don't draft a QB, they should let CB start next year why they build the o-line. He is cheap and can move around in the pocket.

Draft your QB in 2011 and go from there.

Posted by: Flounder21 | October 27, 2009 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Skins are probably going to have a top-5 pick. Hopefully, they will have a new GM who can trade down to a low first and and additional second round pick. this team needs to maximize the number of picks it gets in the first three rounds. With the exception of Dockery, the whole o-line should be replaced with young players. Don't draft a QB this year, we won't be able to protect him. Get a season under the belt of some young talented o-linemen and draft the QB in 2011.

Posted by: mhaslup1 | October 27, 2009 11:22 AM | Report abuse

I'd shoot a GM for making that deal. A top 5 pick is worth a mid first rounder and a late first rounder. Check out the trade value chart.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | October 27, 2009 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Great time to get Chase back (if possible) and see if he'd develop into something.

Posted by: chasgiffen | October 27, 2009 11:29 AM

How you going to do it? He's on the New Orleans roster, not the practice squad. Trade deadline has passed. So they have to cut him from the roster. They're more likely to cut Leigh Torrence.

Posted by: League-Source | October 27, 2009 11:31 AM | Report abuse

that 2000 draft should have been much, much more beneficial to the team...they had 3 firsts....sigh....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 27, 2009 11:32 AM | Report abuse

thanks for talking about trades that never happened....just awesome...

can you redo the whole season, and put Brady in at qb, and let us know how that goes, oh, and have him enter fedex on a unicorn, surrounded by leprechauns...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 27, 2009 11:26 AM

I don't think whatifsports.com properly accounts for unicorn speed on grass versus packed earth, but I'm sure Jaws can break it down for us.

Posted by: jesuisunpizza | October 27, 2009 11:32 AM | Report abuse

I say we bench everyone this week who went to Auburn?

Thoughts?

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 27, 2009 11:33 AM | Report abuse

how are the leprechauns as blockers....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 27, 2009 11:34 AM | Report abuse

When was the last time the Skins took an OL in the first two rounds?

googled it myself: Chris Samuels in 2000. Nine years relying on patchwork has caught up to this team.

Posted by: jesuisunpizza | October 27, 2009 11:28 AM |

The only reason they went o-line with that pick, is because they had another 1st to use on Lavar. If they only had one first they would have used it on Lavar not Samuels.

Lavar was a jersey selling machine, thats more important then a great o-linemen.

Posted by: Flounder21 | October 27, 2009 11:34 AM | Report abuse

I don't think it's the quarterback. If Campbell had any freaking TIME, he'd do better. But with "Ole!" Heyer and the rest on the line, even Johnny Unitas would look like a stumblebum. Did you see how many times last night Heyer was watching the play? I mean he's a Terp and all, and we love him for it, but he's NOT a starting O-lineman in the NFL. Not yet anyway.

Running game would be better too with some blocking.

Offensive linemen are like rebounders. It's sure ain't glamorous, but you cannot win without them.

Posted by: bethesdaguy | October 27, 2009 11:35 AM | Report abuse

4th, I'd buy that.

How about we get a jump on 2010 and just dump Rogers now.....one of the WORST starting corners in the league....if I was the opposing team, I'd just run out and ups on that guy all game long....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 27, 2009 11:36 AM | Report abuse

I say we bench everyone this week who went to Auburn?

Thoughts?

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 27, 2009 11:33 AM

War eagle? You filling in for TheTruth11?

Posted by: League-Source | October 27, 2009 11:36 AM | Report abuse

I say we bench everyone this week who went to Auburn?

Thoughts?

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 27, 2009 11:33 AM |

Agreed

Posted by: Flounder21 | October 27, 2009 11:36 AM | Report abuse

So, we trade down for more picks, draft to build the line, give Soup a contract as the backup to ...... Colt?

Posted by: AFanof47 | October 27, 2009 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Could the person who posted the video breakdown on Jason Campbell please re-post. I can't find it. Thanks in advance!

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | October 27, 2009 11:39 AM | Report abuse

BS about the time thing. Yes this line has problems, but I saw campbel hold the ball for 7 or 8 seconds at a time last night.

These plays are designed to be executed way before then

Posted by: DikShuttle | October 27, 2009 11:40 AM | Report abuse

How about we get a jump on 2010 and just dump Rogers now.....one of the WORST starting corners in the league....if I was the opposing team, I'd just run out and ups on that guy all game long....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1
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Yep, he's now officially a fraud.

Posted by: chasgiffen | October 27, 2009 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Lavar was a jersey selling machine, thats more important then a great o-linemen.

Posted by: Flounder21 | October 27, 2009 11:34 AM

This is why they picked Laron Landry instead of Adrian Peterson.

Posted by: League-Source | October 27, 2009 11:41 AM | Report abuse

chas, no point in keeping him around, start tryon in his spot, and get barnes activated on game day...right now, Rogers is just taking up space...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 27, 2009 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Bean - We're gonna tagg the Auburn Clan next season. Neither will sign their tender as their agents will look for trade partners.

CR22 will get tagged as a 1st rounder, but will get traded for a 3rd rounder at the end.

JC17 will get tagged as a 3rd rounder, but will get traded for a 6th rounder.

We need those picks.

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 27, 2009 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Everyone's blaming JC. He's definitely not the long term soulution for the team, but with this o-line, neither he, Collins, or Colt have a chance to succeed. Last night after the game, even Brian Mitchell said that with this line, Peyton Manning would struggle.

Posted by: akjproductions | October 27, 2009 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Did you see how many times last night Heyer was watching the play? I mean he's a Terp and all, and we love him for it, but he's NOT a starting O-lineman in the NFL. Not yet anyway.

Posted by: bethesdaguy

Add to that Davis's total inability to block at tight end. The loss of Chris Cooley for the season is going to be just as debilitating as the loss of Chris Samuels.

Posted by: skinssox01 | October 27, 2009 11:43 AM | Report abuse

CR22 will get tagged as a 1st rounder, but will get traded for a 3rd rounder at the end.

hahahahahahahahahahahah....4th made a funny...no one wants this cat for a 3rd round pick...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 27, 2009 11:44 AM | Report abuse

How about we get a jump on 2010 and just dump Rogers now.....one of the WORST starting corners in the league....if I was the opposing team, I'd just run out and ups on that guy all game long....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1
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Yep, he's now officially a fraud.

Posted by: chasgiffen | October 27, 2009 11:40 AM | Report abuse


The sad part is he might be the best we've got.

Posted by: Gweez | October 27, 2009 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Add to that Davis's total inability to block at tight end. The loss of Chris Cooley for the season is going to be just as debilitating as the loss of Chris Samuels.

Posted by: skinssox01 | October 27, 2009 11:43 AM | Report abuse

I thought Cooley was a bad blocker!! Anyone have Todd Yoder email add?

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | October 27, 2009 11:45 AM | Report abuse

if you look at the contract structures, there really arent any defensive contracts to dump next season (maybe Griffin).
on offense, we can dump Samuels, Randy Thomas, Portis, Randle El, and Todd Collins.
draft a LT with 1st rounder, and subsequently a RT, RG, and a C. Use the current players (Heyer, Mike Williams, Montgomery) as depth.
Which brings us to QB. Since we don't have another high draft pick to get a QB, we have 2 options: trade for a mid-level QB, or re-sign Campbell. I'd say do the trade fo sho. Trade someone (or a 2rd round draft pick) for Marc Bulger, and let him come in and work behind our new line. the rams will deifnitely pick up a new QB this offseason, and we at least know he can be a good QB.
for RB, we'll have to manage one year with Betts/Aldridge/Mason. I definitely think that will be better than Portis. CP just cant get yards easily like he used to. If we have to, we can trade for one of the RBs from the Raiders (Fargas/Bush), or even Ward/Bradshaw. They'll provide us with enough RB depth for one season.
This rebuild has to be done one step at a time.
2010 draft = O-linemen, Left D-end in late round
2011 draft = QB 1st round, RB, SSLB, MLB, LLB, Left D-end

The uncapped year will allow us to get rid of those 4 offensive contracts. If things work out, we can be a bigtime contender by the 2011 season, maybe 2012.

Posted by: kman2 | October 27, 2009 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Dik, you never came close to seeing Campbell hold the ball for 7 or 8 seconds. I'm calling complete and 100% BS on that. There are maybe 5-10 plays in a given NFL week that the ball is held for 7 or more seconds, and that sure as hell didn't happen last night behind this o-line. If you're going to make a point, at least use something credible.

Posted by: psps23 | October 27, 2009 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Bean - We're gonna tagg the Auburn Clan next season. Neither will sign their tender as their agents will look for trade partners.

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 27, 2009 11:42 AM

Not gonna happen. To tag them you have to offer them a big contract. They'll sign the contract and we're stuck with them.

Posted by: League-Source | October 27, 2009 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 27, 2009 11:46 AM | Report abuse

"Redskins won, 17-14!"

I agree on principle, but more likely they would've won 24-14.

Except for all the reasons it didn't turn out that way. You know the saying, "If thisses, and if thats were candy and crack, oh what a party we would have."

Posted by: Meepo | October 27, 2009 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Skins' Report Card from ESPN.com:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=hruby/091026&sportCat=nfl

Ownership/Front Office: The good news? According to Forbes, the Redskins are the second-most-valuable franchise in football and lead the league in operating income, mostly because owner Dan Snyder knows how to milk every available revenue source (parking, merchandise, suing little old ladies and schizophrenics). The bad news? Snyder spends money as shrewdly as Hammer, paying above-market value for underperforming talent ($30 million for Adam Archuleta, $10 million signing bonus for Brandon Lloyd). Worse still, he practices a hands-on-yet-totally-unaccountable management style best described as "toxic" -- undercutting coaches (save Joe Gibbs), playing favorites with players (Jeff George, Clinton Portis), installing yes-man Vinny Cerrato to run (ahem) football operations. Recently, Washington cornerback Carlos Rogers told the media that the team's problems "start with ownership." When was the last time you heard an active player publicly bash the guy signing his sizeable checks? Grade: F

Coaching: According to team management, Jim Zorn will remain Washington's coach through the conclusion of the season. This qualifies as news! Stripped of his play-calling duties, prone to timeout mismanagement, as befuddled-looking on the sidelines as former Redskins flameout Steve Spurrier, the affable-yet-hapless Zorn appears more and more like what he is: a former quarterbacks coach who was hired to be an offensive coordinator, only to land the head job when no one else wanted it. During his introductory news conference, Zorn mistakenly referred to the Redskins' colors as "maroon and black"; in literary criticism, this is called a harbinger. Grade: F

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 27, 2009 11:47 AM | Report abuse

This is why they picked Laron Landry instead of Adrian Peterson.

Posted by: League-Source | October 27, 2009 11:41 AM

Ugh. Somehow I think that Portis had a hand in telling Snyder that he could handle a full load and not to draft Peterson.

Posted by: jesuisunpizza | October 27, 2009 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Ugh. Watching the replay, from the end zone cam...Carlos biting on the double move, then "chasing" Jackson in vain...just imagining Carlos thinking, "...and boom, double move, ain't nothing you can do"

Posted by: 4-12 | October 27, 2009 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Add to that Davis's total inability to block at tight end. The loss of Chris Cooley for the season is going to be just as debilitating as the loss of Chris Samuels.

Posted by: skinssox01 | October 27, 2009 11:43 AM | Report abuse

I thought Cooley was a bad blocker!! Anyone have Todd Yoder email add?

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | October 27, 2009 11:45 AM

The only way anyone could characterize Chris Cooley as a good blocker would be after they've seen Fred Davis trying to block.

Posted by: League-Source | October 27, 2009 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Apparently, Gus Ferrote is a free agent...

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | October 27, 2009 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Talent: Before the final seconds of a home loss to the Chiefs had ticked off the clock, defensive tackle/megabucks free-agent addition Albert Haynesworth left the field … the better to deliver an impassioned locker room speech demanding greater player accountability. Such is Washington's schizophrenic nature. Big names such as Haynesworth, running back Clinton Portis and receiver Santana Moss lead Redskins players and fans alike to believe that the club is a Super Bowl contender, even though basic areas of football competence (offensive line, pass rush, receivers over 6 feet tall who can catch) remain subpar-to-UFL-worthy year after year, thanks to lousy drafting and outright neglect. Look past the splashy offseason moves and inflated self-regard, and Washington has the worst sort of roster: aging, overpriced and shallow. Grade: C-minus

Performance: Opened the season with an NFL-record six consecutive games against winless opponents. Went 2-4 over that span. Oy. Grade: D-minus

Fans: Long optimistic, increasingly fed-up fans have yet to wear traditional brown sacks o' shame over heads during home games, but only because team security won't allow grocery bags into FedEx Field. Grade: Incomplete

X Factors: Never mind the club's foolhardy, Nixon-esque feud with The Washington Post. Forget beloved ex-players -- such as John Riggins -- who openly bash the organization. Ignore the aforementioned beer-selling in stadium bathrooms (yuck). Instead, consider this: Washington is the only NFL team that counts Tom Cruise as an unofficial mascot. Grade: F

Overall Grade: Wealthy kid with every advantage -- brains, pedigree, expensive "tutors" to write term papers for him -- who flunks out of school through sheer, unyielding arrogance. Yet remains rich. So who really cares about failing? Grade: F-minus

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 27, 2009 11:48 AM | Report abuse

I don't agree with the criticism (sp? I'm still a little drunk) of the Oline. I was there last night and Campbell isn't cutting it.

Iggles were putting 7-8-9 guys in the box, and single covering WR all night. If they had 7 in the box the two safeties were playing 10 yards off the line. They are daring JC to beat them.

Iggles got 2 big plays on offense, otherwise they did nothing all night. Defense played very well, especially when you consider turnovers gave the Eagles excellent field position.

Playcalling did make a difference last night. They got into the end zone, didn't they?

I admit I was wrong about JC17, and it appears that the front office was right this summer. I suspect the Redskins would be a much better offense with Jay Cutler back there.

Give Rock the ball more. I was against keeping him over Chase Daniel as the third QB. But he's here, and got some yards last night where CP couldn't.

This is going to take years to fix. The 2010 draft looks to be thin on QB, which means if the Redskins have a high pick, they should either take TAYLOR MAYS if available, or trade down and take OL, OL, and OL, in that order.

Posted by: dpc2003 | October 27, 2009 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Restricted Tag LS. You can tag CR22 a 1st rounder for like $3Mil. And JC17 and 3rd rounder for 1Mil+.

The agents and current GM will have an understanding that these guys aren't coming back to the team. We can still trade them even if they sign the offer.

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 27, 2009 11:50 AM | Report abuse

well, i dont really blame Rogers for biting on the double move. our Pressure wasn't good on that play, and we let DeSean Jackson run a 20 yard deep post without McNabb feeling ANY HEAT. I blame Greg Blache for the crappy scheme. Where's the Safety help there? Horton was closer to the Line of scrimmage than Rogers. I blame Horton for not anticipating a deep pass attempt on 3RD AND 23. that's not on rogers.

Posted by: kman2 | October 27, 2009 11:53 AM | Report abuse

they should either take TAYLOR MAYS

wow....um...no...nope...just leave it...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 27, 2009 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Excuses, excuses, excuses. They never end with this guy. JC, you either CAN or you CAN'T. You simply can't.

Posted by: DCV1 | October 27, 2009 11:56 AM | Report abuse

If the team could drop players next year during a possible uncapped year and not take a salary cap hit, these players should be dropped:

Portis---- too slow and unproductive
Entire O-line--- except Dockery
Haynesworth---- not worth it
C. Hall---not worth it
Daniels---too old and slow
Betts----too slow
Randle El----unproductive
C. Rogers---don’t resign
Campbell---don’t resign
Collins---too old---need younger talent

Posted by: pennstate1 | October 27, 2009 11:18 AM |

AH and DH (who is CH? - man, you can't even get your names right!) may not be worth what they are getting paid but if we drop them, we still have to pay them - this isn't Walmart, you can't return something and get a refund - and instead of getting something of value, even though it is less than what we are paying them, we get nothing. How does that ever make any kind of sense?

Posted by: LittleGreenBag | October 27, 2009 11:56 AM | Report abuse

I'M A TRUE REDSKINS FAN AND I WAS AT THE GAME LASTNIGHT,WE LOOKED REAL BAD AND WE LOOKED LOST. THIS IS NOT FUNNY AT ALL AND SOME CHANGES NEED TO BE MADE STARTING AT THE TOP WITH DAN SNYDER..

Posted by: FOREMANBRUCE | October 27, 2009 11:58 AM | Report abuse

the thing about JC that pisses me off so much is that he's so scared to throw deep? JUST THROW IT and give ur WR a chance!!! even if it's incomplete, u ahve another chance. the deep attempt is much better than a 2 yard pass in the flat where betts/portis/sellers get nailed right as they catch the ball. ur just putting ur checkdown receivers in a compromising position. no team in the nfl can expect to REGULARLY have 15 play drives to get a TD...and that's the problem with this team.

Posted by: kman2 | October 27, 2009 11:58 AM | Report abuse

You know what we need to lift our spirits on a dreary Tuesday after another dissapointing loss? We need Barno1 to motivate us fans by convincing us that Snyder & Cerrato are the Skins only hope for the future and the Skins will go deep into the postseason. (LOL) Speaking of Barno and his absurd comments, where is he these days? Has he dropped off the face of the earth, or is he just to embarrased to make a blog appearance?

Posted by: akjproductions | October 27, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

little green bag,

i think we should keep everyone on our defense, including Rogers, Hall, and Haynesworth. all we need is for this D-line to grow together with haynesworth, and for Orakpo to get better, and hopefully by next season we'll have a lethal pass rush.

Posted by: kman2 | October 27, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

SOME CHANGES NEED TO BE MADE STARTING AT THE TOP WITH DAN SNYDER..

Posted by: FOREMANBRUCE | October 27, 2009 11:58 AM

Here's a novel suggestion. Could you please elaborate?

Posted by: League-Source | October 27, 2009 12:01 PM | Report abuse

I hope they finish 2-14. The higher the draft pick, the better.

They need to use it on the best LT available. And then use remaining picks on other O-linemen, and look for a QB.

They don't need to draft a QB early. There are always good players in later rounds, a team just needs to have a good scouting staff to find them.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | October 27, 2009 12:01 PM | Report abuse

I'm with kman on that play -- Carlos reacted as though he were expecting safety help (and I agree that he was probably thinking, damn, it's like déjà vu all over again, still can't do nothin' about that), and Horton reacted as though he knew he missed an assignment to rotate over there and help out deep.

"Hey, what's that green blur over there? Is that my responsibility? Hmm, I should run as fast as I can in that direction, even though it's too late to do anything about it now. Shoot."

Posted by: NateinthePDX | October 27, 2009 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Another bad show another excuse, poor old JC.
Give me a break. Put this guy out of his misery and place him where belongs, the un-employement line for flops.

Posted by: opita1 | October 27, 2009 12:02 PM | Report abuse

FYI Mike Wise is in a knife fight with David Donavan on his show.

Posted by: alex35332 | October 27, 2009 12:04 PM | Report abuse

al, who is DD..and what are they fighting about...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 27, 2009 12:07 PM | Report abuse

big ups to Mike Wise for puttin Donovan on the spot like that.

Posted by: kman2 | October 27, 2009 12:09 PM | Report abuse

David Donavan is the COO of the skins, he is their lawyer and runs things at the stadium and stuff.

Posted by: alex35332 | October 27, 2009 12:10 PM | Report abuse

If the Skins really wanted to run a WCO, why did they get rid of Chase Daniels? Wasn't Brennan hurt before they made the decision to put Daniels on the practice squad?

Man, watching that last night was painful. The ineptitude, the sheer befuddlement of JC17 was plain for all to see. He's just not getting it. And what do we have waiting in the wings? Someone who's probably worse.

I think Campbell is over-coached. Snyder's next move is going to banish Zorn from coaching the practice field, and let someone else run it. They've got to cut down on the number of plays and get him lots of reps on fewer routes.

Posted by: dpc2003 | October 27, 2009 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Enough of the excuses JC you will never be a quality QB. What a sorry excuse for a QB you are!
The darn reason your ankle hurts is because you couldn't grab the shotgun snap, and you got rolled up.

Posted by: joeboggs | October 27, 2009 12:12 PM | Report abuse

ANOTHER FREAKEN EXCUSE BY CAMPBELL?? Is he kidding me??? You notice it's never him.. It's the OL can't block, the WR can't get open, Zorn can't call plays, Snyder is a lousy owner .. I'm surprised he hasn't blamed George Bush!!!! Hey there are a lot of problems but Campbell has been here 5 years through all this.. It's simple Campbell = LOSER!!!

Posted by: sovine08 | October 27, 2009 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Skins are probably going to have a top-5 pick.

Posted by: mhaslup1 | October 27, 2009 11:22 AM |

Probably not. You would think finishing 3-13 would get you in a position to have a top 3 pick but not this season. This is the season of the shti team. Det, Oak, Tenn, KC, TB, Cle and StL all will be drafting ahead of the Skins.

Posted by: LittleGreenBag | October 27, 2009 12:13 PM | Report abuse

I blame Greg Blache for the crappy scheme. Where's the Safety help there? Horton was closer to the Line of scrimmage than Rogers. I blame Horton for not anticipating a deep pass attempt on 3RD AND 23. that's not on rogers.

Posted by: kman2 | October 27, 2009 11:53 AM

Dude...Did you watch the play? CBs were responsible for deep coverage on that play. All CR22 had to do was keep him in front of him. But he bit on a move that was 5 yards inside of the 1st down marker. HE bit on a move that wouldn't have gotten him a 1st down.

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 27, 2009 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Can someone put up a little transcript from the Wise Donovan argument.

Posted by: Flounder21 | October 27, 2009 12:15 PM | Report abuse

flounder. when u get a chance, go to www.wjfk.com
and click on podcasts which is under On Demand
then go to the mike wise Show tab
and they'll have the link for donovan's interview
i only listened to the last 5 mins, i think it went about 30 mins total.
but they'll probably update it by 4pmish
so check then.

Posted by: kman2 | October 27, 2009 12:17 PM | Report abuse

If Sherm Lewis finds a way to get things going with the redskins' offense, who'd be opposed to his being named head coach?

I wouldn't.

The guy has as much or more than any experience and success than most of the schlubs Snyder will interview.

I say use the remainder of the season to get a read on Sherm Lewis as head coach.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 27, 2009 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: FOREMANBRUCE | October 27, 2009 11:58 AM

Here's a novel suggestion. Could you please elaborate?

Elaborate I will:

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Any questions?

Posted by: hessone | October 27, 2009 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Jason Campbell won't be in the league next year. I was rooting for this guy big time to have a successful season and career, but he just don't have what it takes to be a QB in the NFL.

Posted by: taylormade218 | October 27, 2009 12:22 PM | Report abuse

"I blame Greg Blache for the crappy scheme."

Say what you want about the defense, but it's easier to play D when your O is putting points up on the board.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 27, 2009 12:22 PM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | October 27, 2009 12:23 PM | Report abuse

2 year ago I said why J. Campbell on our roster. The only good thing I've seen Campbell do is hand the ball off to Ronnie Brown and C. Williams in collage. So, why please somebody tell me why we flew SKINS1 down alabama, scout this guy and thought he was a QB of the future..

Posted by: taylormade218 | October 27, 2009 12:24 PM | Report abuse

beeps

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 27, 2009 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Flounder

The Gist of it was DD hates the post and their negative coverage. Every time he said "post" i think he was saying Dan Steinburg, but thats just my opinion.

He has an issue with 3-4 stories overall.

1. Stories that fans are rebelling (claim is that fans love the team and most of it is isolated stories made to be a mass change)
2. The story about suing fans. (says its isolated incidents and only club tickets)
3. Story of selling tix to Stub-hub, (said the post exaggerated the number)
4. The John Cooke story, he just flat out did not like it.

Posted by: alex35332 | October 27, 2009 12:24 PM | Report abuse

I don't care if we do have a bad OL.. Campbell don't have the feel for the game. I think everyting move to fast for him. Just think folks even if we had a OL and portis was doing what he suppose to do Campbell still wouldn't get the ball down field. He's the only Qb I know who play with fear.

Posted by: taylormade218 | October 27, 2009 12:26 PM | Report abuse

"I think Campbell is over-coached."

Not unlike Rain Man who has a superb recall skill but no comprehension on the subject, Jason Campbell has a strong arm but not understanding on the job at hand.

Coaching Campbell is like trying to coach rain-man.

Posted by: opita1 | October 27, 2009 12:26 PM | Report abuse

There's always an excuse with this guy. You never hear his shoulder any responsibility. It's never, "Oh I missed a lot of open guys out there," or "I really didn't help my O-line out tonight, I was so concerned about the Eagles defense I really wasn't focusing on making completions, I just wanted to get the ball out of my hands as fast as possible."

There is no "team" on the Redskins, and certainly no team leader.

Posted by: tkoho | October 27, 2009 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Jason Campbell won't be in the league next year. I was rooting for this guy big time to have a successful season and career, but he just don't have what it takes to be a QB in the NFL.

Posted by: taylormade218 | October 27, 2009 12:22 PM

Don't be silly. He'll be in the league.

Who knows where (Carolina) or in what capacity (in an open QB competition), but he'll be in the league.

Right or wrong, someone will see enough in him to give him another shot.

Posted by: jesuisunpizza | October 27, 2009 12:29 PM | Report abuse

JZ Presser on. No resignation yet...

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 27, 2009 12:29 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if Heyer can play guard. BMW seemed to be holding it down at right tackle(absolutely dump trucked quintin mikell) and if levi can play left then maybe we can move Heyer to right guard.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | October 27, 2009 12:29 PM | Report abuse

The problem is systemic. When players can quit on there team...(see CP26 last night) With no reprocussion, you have a systemic problem. How do you fix a systemic problem? Overhaul the system.

Posted by: jtrob_1 | October 27, 2009 12:29 PM | Report abuse

I don't care if we do have a bad OL.. Campbell don't have the feel for the game. I think everyting move to fast for him. Just think folks even if we had a OL and portis was doing what he suppose to do Campbell still wouldn't get the ball down field. He's the only Qb I know who play with fear.

Posted by: taylormade218

You can't have a feel for the game when you are getting busted up every play. Some of you are just as dysfunctional as the ownership. Change everything, fire everybody! Our O-line is by far the worst in the league. Jim Brown would look washed up and average behind that group.

Posted by: dcwun | October 27, 2009 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Don't be silly. He'll be in the league.

Who knows where (Carolina) or in what capacity (in an open QB competition), but he'll be in the league.

Right or wrong, someone will see enough in him to give him another shot.

Posted by: jesuisunpizza | October 27, 2009 12:29 PM | Report abuse


You smoking some good stuff over huh?? Another shot?? Where?? funny...lol hahahahaha

Are we talking about J. Campbell?? And I'm a die hard..

Posted by: taylormade218 | October 27, 2009 12:36 PM | Report abuse

You can't have a feel for the game when you are getting busted up every play. Some of you are just as dysfunctional as the ownership. Change everything, fire everybody! Our O-line is by far the worst in the league. Jim Brown would look washed up and average behind that group.

Posted by: dcwun | October 27, 2009 12:32 PM | Report abuse


So, you telling me if JC had a line you would feel good about him running ur team??

Posted by: taylormade218 | October 27, 2009 12:37 PM | Report abuse

So, you telling me if JC had a line you would feel good about him running ur team??


Posted by: taylormade218

Absolutely. What are you looking for? There are only 3 "franchise QBs" in the league and the Skins have been down that road for 15 years. Develop who you have and put the people around him. We've won Championships without a superstar at QB before.

And for the record, I thought the playcalling was better last night.

Posted by: dcwun | October 27, 2009 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Maybe JC could be a backup to Patrick Ramsey next year. That is the team where he belongs. LOL

Posted by: opita1 | October 27, 2009 12:44 PM | Report abuse

GREAT time to insert Todd Collins.

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 27, 2009 11:15 AM | Report abuse
=========================================Ahh, I don't think Collins is in a hurry to get back there.

Posted by: clark202 | October 27, 2009 12:46 PM | Report abuse

So, you telling me if JC had a line you would feel good about him running ur team??


Posted by: taylormade218 | October 27, 2009 12:37 PM

Before last night I would. He looks like his confidence is shot. Maybe he'd rebound and be decent with better protection but right now it doesn't look good. Unfortunately Collins would be a sitting duck behind that line and he don't have any other options this year.

Posted by: skinswest | October 27, 2009 12:48 PM | Report abuse

What is with all the NAMBLA-like posts about Chase Daniels...an undrafted rookie QB completes a couple of touchdown passes in pre-season games, and suddenly folks are clamoring to get him back like they think he is going to be the next Tom Brady? I don't get it.

Also don't get all the posts including Mike Williams and Chris Horton in lists of offseason cuts...Williams is starting to show some potential at either RG or RT, and Horton provides saftey depth (agree he isn't a quality starter) and special teams play. Both are bargain players, not costing us anything significant against the cap, so lets focus on clearing the roster of all the overpaid, overhyped, underperforming players first.

And finally...can someone, anyone, explain to me how ARE continues to be our primary punt returner? Anyone?

Posted by: PDXskin | October 27, 2009 12:51 PM | Report abuse

The definition of insanity is going the same thing over and over again and hoping for different results.

-First, ARE has been pathetic on punt returns. It is obvious he is not getting better. I would like to see Devin Thomas back there.

-Second, Portis is just not getting it done. Whenever Betts comes in, teams know he is a receiver. It is time to mix up the personnel in the running game. I don't know if this new kid is anything, but the team already has Betts and Cartwright to mix in there. Seems like when Cartwright gets in there, good things result from it, so maybe he needs to get more touches. BTW, is this because Cartwright is better than we think, or is it because Portis really is that bad in comparison?

-Third, if five offensive linemen can't get the pass blocking done, go to six, or maybe even seven. When your tight ends and full back are staying in to block on almost every play, I don't see the difference. I envision a shotgun formation with two extra offensive linemen in the backfield lined up on either side of the QB, no running back, and three wide receivers.

-Third, Campbell is not looking good. He hears footsteps. He wasn't that good before he started hearing footsteps and now he is just awful. The fumbles are unacceptable. It is time for a change. He is not going to be here next season so why invest any more time in him? I don't care if they pull the kid off the developmental roster and let him start, Campbell's departure is a foregone conclusion at this point and the team needs to start thinking about life after Campbell.

-Fourth, we don't hear about a steady stream of players working out at Redskins park, but that is just what should be happening. When you are this bad, there must be some free agent that can improve the team. Vinny should be working his butt off now trying to find some players who can make a difference. There has got to be another decent offensive tackle out there, and now there are concerns about depth at tight end. I've said it before and I will say it again: the Redskins have the laziest front office in the NFL.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | October 27, 2009 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Absolutely. What are you looking for? There are only 3 "franchise QBs" in the league and the Skins have been down that road for 15 years. Develop who you have and put the people around him. We've won Championships without a superstar at QB before.

And for the record, I thought the playcalling was better last night.

Posted by: dcwun | October 27, 2009 12:44 PM | Report abuse


I agree with you playcalling was better last night.

I'm not looking for a F QB, I'm looking for someone who know how to get rid of the ball.. to take chances sometimes..to feel pressure.. to simple play QB. Yes, everything not perfect right now, but I need a leader in that position and that's the difference between JC and alot of other QB.

Posted by: taylormade218 | October 27, 2009 12:56 PM | Report abuse

All I want to know is: What is Jason Campbell"s record as a starter? When are all you apologists going to face the fact that Campbell can't play at this level. He has never progressed at all. How long is he to be given, ten years? This guy is so over his head it is pathetic. I guess it was the fact that he has been in so many offenses that he dropped the snap or did not get rid of the ball last night. What a stupid argument. There are plenty of other QBs in this league that have been in different systems who are playing well. Favre has been in three in three years, guess that means he can't do well....wrong. Flacco and Ryan came out of college last year and really stunk it up.....wrong. The only reason Campbell is still in the league is because he is in Washington. Don't even get me started on Rogers. Let's have a rule: The Redskins will never draft anyone from Auburn again.

Posted by: rmcpks73 | October 27, 2009 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Campbell needs a pump fake.

A real honest pump fake, not a weak nod with the ball. On his quick drops if he pump fakes during the drop, it causes the defense to rise up and gives the blockers a chance to gain leverage. Brett Favre even pump fakes before a hand-off, which is pretty hilarious.

Also, some of those sacks were unblocked blitzes, I don't fault Jason for all of that. Basically the whole skins offense seems to lack urgency. (not just last night)

But in general, one thing I hate is when we get a good play off then take the entire play clock for the next play. If you get a decent play off you should almost no huddle, get the next play going because it keeps the defense on their heels and doesn't let their big guys recuperate. In particular if we throw for a first, the next play should be a quick run up the gut. Offense should be able to make a defense work harder in general because the defense has to react to what they see. The offense can use that to their advantage.

blaaah, i dont know.

For some reason last night's loss wasn't as depressing as some of the others. The screw ups seem improvable last night. The other games have just been pathetic. But if we want change I think this team really needs to get worse before it gets better. Otherwise Snyder could just sit there and play the game like he always has, one more high priced over the hill player.

Posted by: gconrads | October 27, 2009 1:10 PM | Report abuse

All I want to know is: What is Jason Campbell"s record as a starter? When are all you apologists going to face the fact that Campbell can't play at this level. He has never progressed at all. How long is he to be given, ten years? This guy is so over his head it is pathetic. I guess it was the fact that he has been in so many offenses that he dropped the snap or did not get rid of the ball last night. What a stupid argument. There are plenty of other QBs in this league that have been in different systems who are playing well. Favre has been in three in three years, guess that means he can't do well....wrong. Flacco and Ryan came out of college last year and really stunk it up.....wrong. The only reason Campbell is still in the league is because he is in Washington. Don't even get me started on Rogers. Let's have a rule: The Redskins will never draft anyone from Auburn again.

Posted by: rmcpks73 | October 27, 2009 12:59 PM | Report abuse


THANK YOU. WHY DID THEY FIRE UP SKINS 1 TO SCOUT THIS GUY 2 0R 3 YRS AGO.. COME ON!!!

IM TELLING YOU THIS GUY IS OUT THE LEAGUE NEXT YEAR.

Posted by: taylormade218 | October 27, 2009 1:11 PM | Report abuse

There was more continuity on offense last night. The running game was worse than the passing game. I am sooo tired of Portis quitting on his team and getting a pass.

HE IS A PUNK!!!!! THAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH THIS TEAM!!! THEY PAID HIM TOO MUCH MONEY AND HE IS SELFISH!

Posted by: jtrob_1 | October 27, 2009 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Teams that would LOVE Campbell!

1. Carolina
2. Buccaneers
3. Rams
4. Cleveland
5. Oakland
6. Buffalo
7. San Fran
8. Jacksonville
9. Tennessee
10. Kansas City

Posted by: jtrob_1 | October 27, 2009 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Excuses, excuses... and more excuses. But there's no mistaking the fact this useless excuse for a pro quarterback needs to be benched and released before he does any more harm to himself and his so-called teammates. What a loser!

Posted by: Vic1 | October 27, 2009 1:37 PM | Report abuse

If those ten teams would LOVE to have Cmpbell let's try and trade him now. I bet we could get a 7th rounder for him, or maybe a free agent to be named later. When the team tried to shop him around last winter I don't remember any of these teams jumping up and saying they would LOVE to have him.

Posted by: rmcpks73 | October 27, 2009 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Teams that would LOVE Campbell!

1. Carolina
2. Buccaneers
3. Rams
4. Cleveland
5. Oakland
6. Buffalo
7. San Fran
8. Jacksonville
9. Tennessee
10. Kansas City

Posted by: jtrob_1 | October 27, 2009 1:25 PM | Report abuse

hahahaha!!! sorry they all saw the game last night!

Posted by: taylormade218 | October 27, 2009 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Teams that would LOVE Campbell!

1. Carolina
2. Buccaneers
3. Rams
4. Cleveland
5. Oakland
6. Buffalo
7. San Fran
8. Jacksonville
9. Tennessee
10. Kansas City

Posted by: jtrob

Great! Then trade his lame azz to any of those teams for a pick and or a player.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | October 27, 2009 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Sorry JC, but we're tired of your lame, sorry excuses. What you won after last night's game was a lifelong membership in the League of Bumbling QB's. You meet the criteria, which is required for every game - interceptions, fumbles, not reading the Defense, overthrowing to your receivers, failing to get out of the pocket in a timely manner and after the game, make the same sorry excuses for your lack of high performance.

Washington gave you a chance for two seasons. Yes, we all know the O-line is dreadful, but that's no excuse for an obviousl lack of talent. Time to sit down and let someone else more qualified take over.

Posted by: sjcsando | October 27, 2009 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Is anyone here old enough to remember the Skins in the 60s? They had no running game, no offensive line, but they had some pretty good receivers and a pudgy red headed guy that threw for about 300 yard a game with about 3 or 4 scores. Could he scramble? Heavens no. Did they win a lot of games? No. They didn't have much of a defense either. Our offensive line is far from the hogs, but good QB play overcomes some of the other short comings and IS the difference maker. You can win with an average QB as long as the rest of your offense is great (Rypien), otherwise you can not win with a guy like Campbell. Find a QB that fits your system or change your system to fit your QB.

Posted by: Sonny9 | October 27, 2009 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Are you kidding me? Did he mentioned that to the coaching staff?

Posted by: MYPOST10 | October 27, 2009 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Sonny 9, I mentioned that numerous times, of Sonny J, Charley Taylor, Bobby Mitchell, Jerry Smith, Len Haus, even George Starke as a rookie and Sam Huff, Ritchie Harris, Paul Krause, on D, while Gogalack kicked. Togther that core kept teams on their toes. True some times got some good woodies playing them, but they often left TATOOTED too! The only Tatoos the team has now is from tail whoopins.

Posted by: ByRon12 | October 27, 2009 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Campbell's time is short here but since he is a restricted FA next year I think they should address the line first. Then address the QB situations because if you spend your draft picks trying to replace campbell this summer you will have the same problems next year just with a new QB who will need to learn a new scheme and coach with no O line. Now where have you been hearing that? Oh, yea, thats what we say now. So lets draft a line and worry about a QB afterwards. I remember when the Chargers had a similar situation. An underachieving QB on a team that needed upgrades. They drafted other players and kept that QB for an extra year while they allowed their new young QB to grow behind him. At the same time they allowed the underachieving QB to improve his game playing with an improved team for one more season while they got the young guy up to speed. They eventually traded the underachieving QB but after he had improved enough to catch on with another team and after the young guy was ready for prime time. The two guys I am talking about is Drew Brees who underachieved for several seasons before becoming the guy we all know today that was released and went to the saints and replaced by Phillip Rivers. I say keep Campbell one more year, let him compete then upgrade at the QB position once his contract has expired and he is an unrestricted FA. That will give his replacement time to be coached up and will give the skins a chance to upgrade our O line before we throw another QB in to the wolves just to face the same problems. I know some of us want campbell gone now but that makes more since. If campbell is gone now snyder will waste draft picks trying to replace him immediately instead of spending them on the O line. Otherwise whats the difference between a 500 or less season with campbell or a new guy? Its still a losing season with no line. Payton Manning would be lucky to get a 9 win season with this line. Its always one injury away from being inept. Every year.

Posted by: ged0386 | October 27, 2009 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Folks for what ales ya! Take a WIZ!
That't right take a Wiz game in the brain and relax a while! See a game with style, with heart, determination and the can do attitude. See what it's like to be professionally motivated to play the game for 60. Break that curse!

Posted by: ByRon12 | October 27, 2009 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Think about how good Archie Manning was, then think about the lines he played with, then think about those highlights of him always running for his life, then think about how lousy the saints were. Not making excuses for JC but if you dont have a good team around you Great QB's are just good, Good ones are just mediocre and mediocre ones are down right bad. Name me one redskins team that won anything with a bad line. And we have had QB's ranging from good to great. We have had average QB's who had great seasons. You can win with a guy as average as JC if you have a line. We did it with Mark Rypien who until the 91 season was just as average if not more than JC. But with a running game and 5 seconds to throw the ball without getting his uniform dirty all season he went from below average to great in one year. Funny how good a QB can become with a line. Not making excuses but its not something you can just dismiss based on frustration of fans. I have people saying so what he has no line. Kind of like expecting a baseball team to win with no pitching. And you blame the hitters for not winning regardless. You cant just say, no excuses A-rod if the yankees have no bullpin. Yes, JC needs much improvement, but to say no excuses with this line, which is the same line that collapsed last season? If we ignore that then we are just as foolish as the people us fans are mad at because that is what they have been doing all this time. Ignoring the line and blaming the QB and everyone else when they dont win or play well.

Posted by: ged0386 | October 27, 2009 5:40 PM | Report abuse

ged0386 - Perfect plan. Instead of signing a journeyman bum to fill the QB void until we find a QB of the future, keep Campbell to fill that role. Yeah it read like keep the bum we have. But who else is out there? Unlike many backups out there QB can complete the throws. I hate to question his mental skills, but he definitely does not take the chances some other QBs do. he missed a couple of big plays last night not even attempting the throw.

Posted by: oknow1 | October 27, 2009 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Great! Then trade his lame azz to any of those teams for a pick and or a player.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | October 27, 2009 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Now heres what you have to ask yourself as a fan. Once you get rid of campbell and you get draft picks, what do you draft? Who will be your QB and how patient are you as a fan? Are you willing to wait 2 or more seasons for another guy to fill the position? Or are you going to be the typical wishful thinking fan who believes the next QB will be great his first game and never look back? With a new coach, no line, and based on what us fans think a new QB how long do you think it will realistically take to turn it around? Remember as good as a guy like Drew Brees looks today he looked like Campbell for a few seasons before he improved. Are we willing to wait for a guy to develop with the hope that he is better? I personally dont think fans have the patience. They will be ready to run the next starting skins QB out of town in a little more than one season. Heck, it only took a couple of bad throws in the pre season by Colt Brennan before fans got off his band wagon. Prior to that fans had hopes of him replacing campbell and becoming the next great QB just based on a couple of preseason games in 08. I dont think we have the stomach for losing nor rebuilding at this point. Thats why I say spend the off season addressing the O line and only the O line. We can replace JC, Portis, moss and all the other skilled positions in the 2011 off season. This season is done, no quick fix QB replacements, no blockbuster deals in the offseason, just fix the damm line!!! Had we done that during the 07 draft instead of drafting fantasy WR's maybe JC and CP would be having better seasons and we would be 5-2 instead of 2-5 going nowhere this season. Its the line stupid. JC has no faith in it and it shows in him play.

Posted by: ged0386 | October 27, 2009 5:57 PM | Report abuse

Wow, the skins are bad, yes, but the fans are about as skatterbrained as they come. What do you guys do each week, pick a new guy to throw under the bus and a new one to replace him with only to throw that guy under the bus two games later? I mean Fred Davis Caught 8 or 9 balls and a TD last night and we trash him because he cant block. Had they won the same people would be now calling him better than Cooley just because we won the game. Some of you need to stick with fantasy football like snyder.

Posted by: ged0386 | October 27, 2009 6:04 PM | Report abuse

if you noticed on Jackson's first TD, the WR made the block on the safety that allowed him to score - Mike Sellers - hope you were watching !

on Jackson's second score - neither the corner or safety thought enough to cover the deep play on 3rd and 23....secondary SUCKS.

it never friggin ends with this group, they do about 75% of the job, and screw up enough of the remainder to lose the game....

its Cerrato's team, and its awful...the O line is horrible, Campbell ain't making it which means we are three years at least from a new quarterback to solve that position problem. Portis needs to move to 3rd down back cause he hasn't got the legs to outrun anybody anymore....and on, and on, and on...its so depressing

Posted by: outrbnksm | October 27, 2009 6:19 PM | Report abuse

So long as they have JC17 at QB, this team is going nowhere. The guy is simply incapable of getting it done. Get rid of this sorry excuse for a bum NOW!!!

Posted by: Vic1 | October 28, 2009 9:25 AM | Report abuse

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