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Campbell Takes Wise to School; C.P. on O.J.

I sent Mike Wise back to grade school Tuesday (face it, you knew that was gonna happen sooner or later) with Jason Campbell. While we're at it, Dan Steinberg talked to Clinton Portis about O.J. Simpson.

By Cindy Boren  |  October 29, 2008; 9:54 AM ET
 
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Pretty obvious Mike hates school.

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | October 29, 2008 10:12 AM | Report abuse

First

my take on previous post, Jla was talking to captain obvious. No kidding, you mean Cooley, Portis, and Moss are our biggest threats? Wait you mean thanks to Thomas being a moron Moss is our only game breaker at receiver? Wait our oline is old? Wait our defense doesn't get a lot of sacks?

What this guy should have pointed out is that JC is playing lights out football and has ascended to possibly the best qb in the division. That we're 8 games into a new system and we're regularly hanging 400 yards a game on people. That we beat Philly and Dallas on the road, that even if we just win the games we should the rest of the way we easily get to 10 wins. And that we should be fighting for a first round bye/home field advantage. The key to all of this though is JC, if he stays healthy, I have faith that we have a shot against everybody, this is the same CP that has been here for years and the same Moss, and the same Cooley, the difference is, this isn't the same JC, he's making plays and makes our passing game legitimate for the first time maybe since Brad Johnson left after winning the division and Jeff George took over.

Posted by: zjfr2 | October 29, 2008 10:13 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Cindy Boren | October 29, 2008 10:16 AM | Report abuse

... does anyone agree that we need to take our shots down the field early and often against Pittsburgh to throw them off balance? ...

Posted by: Tyler2Durden | October 29, 2008 8:16 AM

Totally. That plus the intermediate passing game. Zorn trusted Jason early in the season; now Jason needs to trust Zorn, esp. to return to the quick-paced passing game. I realize that the second round pass catchers didn't pan out as quickly as desired, but now it definitely the time to get more attempts to Thomas and Davis ... AND Thrash (who, to me anyway, seems like he is one of the most reliable at hanging onto balls that touch his hands ... OK, maybe after Santana). Skins DEFINITELY need to return to the passing game. THAT is how they prevailed over the Saints/Cards/Eagles/Dallas. I'm all for Portis breaking a league record on the ground, but we are now into Week 9 (is it 9 or 8?) and there is a lot of film that teams have on the Skins. They will figure out how to stop Clinton off tackle (like the Browns started figuring out, like the Lions started figuring out), probably some read off the O-linemen. If the Skins don't evolve and figuratively "move the chains" play-calling (and play executing)-wise, then they will not have the same success that they've had to date.

BeanTgreg, the Club level experience is not worth the extra cash. I've sat in the 200 level seats above 117, but the 114 seats will get you out of the endzone and a better view on how much distance remains on the FGs.

chRIs lARRy, still loving rainbows and lollipops today? or was it really just Red Bull in the coffee yesterday?

Posted by: dcsween | October 29, 2008 10:16 AM | Report abuse

awww how cute....Mike Wise's videos are the bomb...funny, well edited...great stuff...

You know there was some puke breath rug rat contrarian in training during the "redskins" chant chanting "cowboys"....

Posted by: chrislarry | October 29, 2008 10:20 AM | Report abuse

It would be nice if it was mentioned that even without much of a pass rush, this defense has been pretty darn good.

Posted by: ga8085 | October 29, 2008 10:20 AM | Report abuse

From that link from link that Cindy had above: "All Stephon has to do is get lower," Zorn said Bugel told the staff.

Message to Heyer: Get lower.

Message to everyone else: Get suddenly medium.

Posted by: dcsween | October 29, 2008 10:24 AM | Report abuse

That is Jasons tuesday limo, his Sunday Limo well don't get me started on his sunday limo.

Why is he in a replica jersey exactly, with the plastic lettering? You would think of all people Jason Campbell would have no problem getting an authentic Skins Jersey for himself. Also thats the 3rd or 4th time in my life I have ever seen Campbell in a burgundy jersey.

Posted by: alex35332 | October 29, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

I was screaming at the TV Sunday to let JC throw more, that was one of the worst secondaries in football and JC was hot, 10 for 10 almost 80% for the entire game, I think Zorn got nervous with Samuels out and watching JC fumble early. I hope they use some more shotgun against Pitt, gives JC a better idea on who's coming from where, and when he sees that, he makes plays, evidence, the bomb to Tanna in which he broke the blitzing corners ankles with a head fake and side step. Pitt's corners are hurt and Ryan Clark is out, their secondary is very vulnerable let JC air it out!

Posted by: zjfr2 | October 29, 2008 10:26 AM | Report abuse

STEELERS HAVE A NEW LONG SNAPPER
Posted by Josh Alper on October 29, 2008, 9:00 a.m.
The Steelers made two moves Tuesday that could give their special teams a very different look when they visit the Redskins on Monday night.
Jared Retkofsky won a four-man audition to replace Greg Warren as the team’s long-snapper. Warren’s knee injury forced linebacker James Harrison to snap during Sunday’s loss to the Giants and Harrison sailed a snap over punter Mitch Berger’s head for a game-tying safety. Retkofsky spent training camp with the Steelers in 2007 and was undrafted after playing his college ball at TCU.
The team also signed Ricky Schmitt to their practice squad as insurance against Berger’s strained hamstring. The Shepherd College product went to camp with the Cardinals in 2007 and the 49ers this year but was cut each time.
If Berger isn’t able to play, it will create another problem for the Steelers. Berger is the holder for Jeff Reed and would be replaced by Hines Ward, who moved up in line after Charlie Batch’s injury, in the event of Berger’s absence.
Mike Tomlin said that the team is prepared for that eventuality. “Hines has done it every week, twice a week since Charlie went down. Hines has a little comfort and continuity with Jeff.”

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 29, 2008 10:28 AM | Report abuse

JC was over 80% for the game, 82% to be exact.

beware of the big hair of Pitt.

Posted by: alex35332 | October 29, 2008 10:30 AM | Report abuse

pretty sweet video...all the way around.

can't pronounce his "x's"...rember when someone said they had a hard time trying to understand what jc was saying in the huddle? maybe that's devin's problem too...

Posted by: dealer1 | October 29, 2008 10:32 AM | Report abuse

I confess, I'm the unnamed NFL Exec. Unfortunately, my real name is Lump Kazoo. Yes, that's right, the same Lump who lingered last in line for brains from the POUSA song.

I'm the mailroom clerk in the Asst-under-secretary of Non-football Operations and by "scouting" the redskins what I mean is that I watch SporsCenter every night.

By the way, one thing Jason forgot to mention was that I also noticed that the Redskins wear maroon and black, were not playing at home on Sunday and are currently in the NFC East.

Posted by: LarryBud | October 29, 2008 10:35 AM | Report abuse

There's another reporter who claims to be the 'Redskin Insider'. What he's got is very very informational:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/oct/29/for-a-lot-of-veterans-a-study-in-work-ethic/

Product of a Gibbs led group.........

And Veteren leadership....

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 29, 2008 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: dcsween | October 29, 2008 10:36 AM | Report abuse

big hair can't cover the entire field, they're weak everywhere but him in the secondary, I'll take my chances with JC over trying to line up and play smash mouth against their front seven. Obviously you don't abandon the run like the Cowboys did against us, but you don't beat the Steelers by going run run pass every series, we gotta trick them up throw when we should run and vice versa. 60% pass 40% run would be a good mix for this game.

Posted by: zjfr2 | October 29, 2008 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Yeah is there really any reason for that “NFL Exec” post? That was garbage, pure hating. An inside look my a$$...how bout this for "inside"...we're pretty freakin good.

Posted by: bms46and2 | October 29, 2008 10:40 AM | Report abuse

Why is he in a replica jersey exactly, with the plastic lettering? You would think of all people Jason Campbell would have no problem getting an authentic Skins Jersey for himself. Also thats the 3rd or 4th time in my life I have ever seen Campbell in a burgundy jersey.

Posted by: alex35332 | October 29, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

He knew he'd be rough-housing it with those kids. So, he had to dress casual. No need to mess up the good clothes!

Posted by: stwasm | October 29, 2008 10:40 AM | Report abuse

If you guys hate JLa so much, and think he's that bad, stop reading. It's really that simple. Spending all day on this comment board complaining is pretty pathetic.

And Larry Michaels is a homer, a bootlicking mouthpiece completely incapable of an original thought.

Posted by: The_Doc | October 29, 2008 10:18 AM

1. in the begining (of this blog) i said the popularity of this blog has more to do with the popularity of the skins and wapo being the number 1 newspaper in this region than the host of this blog. and that is still true. we're not here because of jasno. we're here looking to discuss the skins. i'm here because wapo hasn't been bought by snyder yet and i don't want a controlled message.

2. criticizing jasno and not liking larry michael are not mutually exclusive. we can do both at the same time.

Posted by: dealer1 | October 29, 2008 10:42 AM | Report abuse

dealer, this is the video you are remembering about Jason Campbell's speech is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9L82dkFeVHs

Posted by: dcsween | October 29, 2008 10:42 AM | Report abuse

AWESOME video! Well done WashPo!

Posted by: PDiddy | October 29, 2008 10:42 AM | Report abuse

I think the 2 QB set with El in the backfield next to JC would be something that may trip em.

Posted by: alex35332 | October 29, 2008 10:43 AM | Report abuse

I was watching Polamanu on Sunday. They had he play center fielder on those long pass plays against the Giants and he was always a step and half late.

ST21 would have made those incompletions/INTs........

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 29, 2008 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Gweez | October 29, 2008 10:54 AM | Report abuse

alex, I like the idea of ARE taking snaps, but honestly, I don't like JC being on the field if he does, why get JC out of what he does best and risk injury, I was watching the Carolina game, they put Williams in at direct snap and split Delhomme out wide, as soon as the ball was snap the corner blew up Delhomme on the outside, that isn't something I need to see happen to JC. ARE played qb in college and played it very well, he is plenty capable of taking a shotgun snap in the spread and running or throwing a pass, JC can go stand next to Zorn and talk about the next play, put ARE in the gun with portis next to him, run that zone read play the Falcons killed people with when Vick and Dunn were there and every now and then ARE could throw a quick one to Cooley or Moss, or god forbid with ARE in the backfield maybe Thomas could run one of those deep patterns that apparently is all he is capable of understanding. But I think that could be a pretty nasty change of pace for the Steelers and beyond. That's what Cleveland did with Cribbs for a couple of first downs, and it worked for Miami and Carolina last week too, I think the difference is none of those guys has ARE who actually was a productive D1 college qb.

Posted by: zjfr2 | October 29, 2008 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Also who else here has entered the Leagues Chili recipe contest.

Posted by: alex35332 | October 29, 2008 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 29, 2008 10:56 AM | Report abuse

LOL!!!!thanks sween...good pull. i can't rember what i had for breakfast...

i want to see wildcat formation towards the end of the first quarter...

Posted by: dealer1 | October 29, 2008 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Are you guys still complaining about the previous post. Obvious or not but there was a lot of truth in there.

One poster said: "the way this is presented, the Skins just suck, and their dam lucky to be 6-2."
The truth is that we lost to a very bad team at home and barely beat two very bad teams and that's a cause for concern.

Why so much hate for JLC? Can't you take even a mild constructive criticism? What do you expect him to be - a kool-aid drinking fan?

Posted by: thor2 | October 29, 2008 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Judging from that piece on the Steelers, Clark, as well as Willie Parker wont be playing. S Holmes, however will be.

Posted by: BeantownGreg | October 29, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: Cindy Boren | October 29, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

The Following former skins are on the preliminary list for the HOF.

Jessie Armstead^
LB
1993-2001 New York Giants, 2002-2003 Washington Redskins
Larry Centers^
RB
1990-1998 Phoenix/Arizona Cardinals, 1999-2000 Washington Redskins, 2001-2002 Buffalo Bills, 2003 New England Patriots
Henry Ellard
WR
1983-1993 Los Angeles Rams, 1994-1998 Washington Redskins, 1998 New England Patriots
Irving Fryar
WR
1984-1992 New England Patriots, 1993-1995 Miami Dolphins, 1996-1998 Philadelphia Eagles, 1999-2000 Washington Redskins
Russ Grimm*
G
1981-1991 Washington Redskins
Ken Harvey
LB
1988-1993 Phoenix Cardinals, 1994-1998 Washington Redskins
Joe Jacoby
T
1981-1993 Washington Redskins
Jim Lachey
T
1985-1987 San Diego Chargers, 1988 Los Angeles Raiders, 1988-1992, 1994-1995 Washington Redskins
Mark May
T/G/C
1981-1989 Washington Redskins, 1991 San Diego Chargers, 1992-1993 Phoenix Cardinals
Brian Mitchell^
RB/KR/PR
1990-1999 Washington Redskins, 2000-2002 Philadelphia Eagles, 2003 New York Giants
Andre Reed*
WR
1985-1999 Buffalo Bills, 2000 Washington Redskins
Reggie Roby
P
1983-1992 Miami Dolphins, 1993-1994 Washington Redskins, 1995 Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 1996-1997 Houston/Tennessee Oilers, 1998 San Francisco 49ers
Clark Shaughnessy
Coach
1944-1947 Washington Redskins, 1948-1949 Los Angeles Rams, 1951-1962 Chicago Bears
Dana Stubblefield^
DT
1993-1997 San Francisco 49ers, 1998-2000 Washington Redskins, 2001-2002 San Francisco 49ers, 2003 Oakland Raiders
Joe Theismann
QB
1974-1985 Washington Redskins
Doug Williams
QB
1978-1982 Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 1986-1989 Washington Redskins
Frank Wycheck
TE
1993-1994 Washington Redskins, 1995-2003 Houston/Tennessee Oiler/Titans

Posted by: alex35332 | October 29, 2008 11:20 AM | Report abuse

udging from that piece on the Steelers, Clark, as well as Willie Parker wont be playing. S Holmes, however will be.

Posted by: BeantownGreg | October 29, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

True but according to Brian Billick Santonio Moss is way better than Santana Holmes so we should be ok.

Posted by: Gweez | October 29, 2008 11:20 AM | Report abuse

From that Wise video, where he remarks that Jason told him that one of the most influential people in his (presumably recent) life was Mark Brunell, all I ever remember hearing about Brunell was that he was a straight up, great character kind of guys. I remember the pained expression on his face in that game when he got pulled and knew it likely was his last start in the NFL.

The comments up here about Brunell's professional, on-field performance sometimes got a little angry and insulting, if not profane ... which doesn't seem fair given who the guy really was as a dude.

Some of the remarks up here about the beat reporter don't seem fair either ... there's a difference between the guy and his day job. [I'm not an apologist, I'm a defender.] Hint: What Larry Michael's does is not "analysis;" its propaganda. A spade is a spade, a club is a club, a diamond is a diamond. I have no problem reading disagreements with analysis; its tiring to read hating on it (from peeps hungry for propaganda).

Posted by: dcsween | October 29, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Why so much hate for JLC? Can't you take even a mild constructive criticism? What do you expect him to be - a kool-aid drinking fan?

Posted by: thor2 | October 29, 2008 11:06 AM

I used to be of this same midset, but if you read JLC's posts, it's as if he doesn't want to give the Skins any credit. This isn't Madden 09; you're not going to pummel opponents by 50 every week. The fact that they didn't blow out the Lions or the Browns doesn't mean they're not a good team. In fact, they had double digit leads in both games. But all it means is that they aren't an elite team. Which isn't bad; it's just who they are.

To get input from an anonymous exec from ANOTHER team and pawning it off as an "inside look at the Skins" is ridiculous. That's an OUTSIDE look from a league insider. An inside look at the Skins would be an honest evaluation from Morocco or Vinny and since they don't like him, that will never happen.

But I think folks are getting pissed because that whole post is a wet blanket over the team's 6-2 start. We know the team is in trouble if they lose CP or Moss or Samuels. So are most teams if they lose their most productive offensive player, their best WR and their top lineman! What seems to be overlooked is that the Skins are starting backups at key spots on defense (including a 7th rounder and a street FA at safety) and still winning games. I don't think they're elite, but they have definitely earned their 6-2 record.

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 29, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Great video that provided a nice break to more political news. (Love the politics but I'm starting to get burnout.)

As for JLC, I agree with Dealer1 and brownwood26.

Posted by: lordtwang | October 29, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

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