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Posted at 10:44 AM ET, 12/ 1/2010

Carlos Rogers still rehabbing his hamstrings

By Jason Reid

Because of the rain, the Redskins are preparing to travel to an indoor facility to practice, but cornerback Carlos Rogers still is not sure if his sore hamstrings will cooperate.

"Just still pretty much the same," Rogers said Wednesday morning in the locker room at Redskins Park. "Both still sore and just trying to rehab. One's a little [more painful] than the other, so I don't know."

Rogers sat out the Week 11 victory over Tennessee because of the lingering hamstring problem. After returning to the lineup for the Week 12 loss to Minnesota at FedEx Field, Rogers injured his other hamstring.

With two hamstring injuries, Rogers doesn't know whether he will be able to play Sunday against the New York Giants at New Meadowlands Stadium. "It's still early in the week, so I'm just trying to rehab and get this one [his right hamstring] back to feeling good and this one [his left hamstring] back, too."

With Rogers slowed, second-year cornerback Kevin Barnes has had an expanded role. Barnes has "been doing a good job," Rogers said. "He's stepping up when we need him, and that's what you want guys to do. We need that now."

By Jason Reid  | December 1, 2010; 10:44 AM ET
Categories:  Carlos Rogers  
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Is this an undisclosed indoor facility? For security reasons? Or they don't know yet? Or they're just not telling JReid where they're going?

Posted by: PlayAction | December 1, 2010 10:50 AM | Report abuse


With Rogers slowed, second-year cornerback Kevin Barnes has had an expanded role. Barnes has "been doing a good job," Rogers said. "He's stepping up when we need him, and that's what you want guys to do. We need that now."

sorry carlos, we needed you and the rest of the team to "step up" against the eagle's and finish out the season strong

redskins defense, 32nd in the league, dead last, bask in the glory

Posted by: hessone | December 1, 2010 10:55 AM | Report abuse

redskins defense, 32nd in the league, dead last, bask in the glory

Posted by: hessone | December 1, 2010 10:55 AM
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Classic case of a limited def coordinator forcing his scheme on the wrong personnel.
Successful coaches match the personnel to a scheme.

Posted by: onanygivensunday | December 1, 2010 11:02 AM | Report abuse

redskins defense, 32nd in the league, dead last, bask in the glory

Posted by: hessone | December 1, 2010 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Too much emphasis on ypg.

Far from worst D when factor in Turnovers and Scoring. And by far from worst I mean more like a middle of the road D.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | December 1, 2010 11:04 AM | Report abuse

Classic case of a limited def coordinator forcing his scheme on the wrong personnel.
Successful coaches match the personnel to a scheme.

Posted by: onanygivensunday | December 1, 2010 11:02 AM | Report abuse

If you are going to switch to 3-4 defense, better to switch now. Find out who can play scheme.

Better than continuing to play 4-3 while bringing in players suited for 3-4 defense.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | December 1, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Carlos Rogers still is not sure if his sore hamstrings will cooperate.
Jason Reid


That's ok, his Hands of Stone haven't been cooperating all year either!

Posted by: monk811 | December 1, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Too much emphasis on ypg.

Far from worst D when factor in Turnovers and Scoring. And by far from worst I mean more like a middle of the road D.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | December 1, 2010 11:04 AM | Report abuse
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They give up way too many ypg. A high ypg usually means that the defense was on field too long and got worn out. Turnovers have rescued this team on alot of drives this year that were really rolling, which is good, but also a dangerous way to go. Personally, I'd rather see a defense that can consistently get 3 and outs through strong interior run defense, consistent pressure, and a good coverage secondary than one that has performed like ours.

Posted by: skinsfan713 | December 1, 2010 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Classic case of a limited def coordinator forcing his scheme on the wrong personnel.
Successful coaches match the personnel to a scheme.

Posted by: onanygivensunday | December 1, 2010 11:02 AM | Report abuse

If you are going to switch to 3-4 defense, better to switch now. Find out who can play scheme.

Better than continuing to play 4-3 while bringing in players suited for 3-4 defense.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | December 1, 2010 11:11 AM
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Better to "find out who can play the scheme" in the preseason.
Everyone in the league was scratching their heads when the Skins hired Haslett given that two thirds of the Skins overall payroll (ie. the Defense with Haynesworth at 100 million) had never played a 3-4 and were already considered in the top 10 of Defenses in the NFL as a 4-3.
Now that same highly ranked personnel in 2009 is listed dead last in 2010. A fact that would seem to point more to the new Def Coordinator and his "scheme", not the talent.

Posted by: onanygivensunday | December 1, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

i forgot to mention barnes as a possible emergence from relative obscurity

i like from what ive seen, most of it came in the preseason game against the jets this year, looks like he might be a player

im hopeful, lets give the young guy a shot and that quote from carlos about the home fans really pisses me off considering in a rare inerview with ST21 he said his favorite thing about playing for the Redskins is playing at FedEx in front of the home fans

beat the giants sunday

Posted by: retroskins14 | December 1, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse


Personally, I'd rather see a defense that can consistently get 3 and outs through strong interior run defense, consistent pressure, and a good coverage secondary than one that has performed like ours.

Posted by: skinsfan713 | December 1, 2010 11:27 AM |
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stamp of approval

we have 4-3 personnel and we're playing them to see who can play 3-4. what if they all can't play 3-4 ? I mean, it looks that way. it's decisions like these that furfuraceous guarantee a losing record every year.

Posted by: hessone | December 1, 2010 11:37 AM | Report abuse

If you are going to switch to 3-4 defense, better to switch now. Find out who can play scheme.

Better than continuing to play 4-3 while bringing in players suited for 3-4 defense.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | December 1, 2010 11:11 AM


Agreed. You don't change something by not changing it.

A quick review of the facts:

1. Shanahan studied the effectiveness of the 3-4 vs. the 4-3 during his time out of coaching, and determined that teams who run the 3-4 have an advantage.

2. Shanahan hired Haslett to install the 3-4, and to install it now so that, a. current personnel can be evaluated in the scheme to see if they can play it, and b. the players who are kept around next year will already have a year of experience in the system.

3. Because of 1 & 2 above, calls for Haslett's ouster are born out of ignorance, as he's doing exactly what he was hired to do.

Posted by: freakzilla | December 1, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Better to "find out who can play the scheme" in the preseason.
Everyone in the league was scratching their heads when the Skins hired Haslett given that two thirds of the Skins overall payroll (ie. the Defense with Haynesworth at 100 million) had never played a 3-4 and were already considered in the top 10 of Defenses in the NFL as a 4-3.
Now that same highly ranked personnel in 2009 is listed dead last in 2010. A fact that would seem to point more to the new Def Coordinator and his "scheme", not the talent.

Posted by: onanygivensunday | December 1, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

People complained about the Redskins D last year. So please save the highly ranked BS. Statistically they were good, but no one feared them.

Double move? that ring a bell?

I am not arguing they are good this year. My point is if you are switching to 3-4 better to do it now, they weren't going anywhere this year.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | December 1, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Rogers would've been back already, but his poor hammies just couldn't take all of the booing in the stands.

Posted by: Vic1 | December 1, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Tell him he still needs to rehab his hands.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | December 1, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Anther reminder that Dan the Midget Megalomaniac might want to join the rest of the NFL and provide his players with an indoor practice facility for such days as this one.

Little Dude thought nothing of spending millions on the giant video screens -- presumably to help "enhance the fan experience" and sell more club seats.

But as always, any investment that won't necessarily amortize itself in directly relatable jersey or seat sales seems just too costly and difficult to handle -- and especially something that might actually help improve the quality of the mediocre to worse "product" he puts on the field each season.

Posted by: Vic1 | December 1, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

chainsaw dan and his negative energy field

haha

Posted by: retroskins14 | December 1, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

People complained about the Redskins D last year. So please save the highly ranked BS. Statistically they were good, but no one feared them.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | December 1, 2010 11:44 AM

One reason they were good statistically last year was the weak schedule they faced. And even when they faced strong teams -- New Orleans, San Diego -- it was when they were playing their reserves, coasting into the playoffs. Last year's defense was 18th in the league in terms of points allowed per game. This year's defense is 21st -- just ahead of the Patriots -- so it's not much of a dropoff considering that they're learning a new defense.

Posted by: beep-beep | December 1, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

I am not arguing they are good this year. My point is if you are switching to 3-4 better to do it now, they weren't going anywhere this year.

I'd say the switch hasn't worked for a couple of reasonsm, all tied to poor decision-making on the part of the front office:

--they depended on Albert Haynesworth to be the stud, disruptive nose tackle needed to make a 3-4 work

--they didn't want to pay Joey Porter or Larry Foote good money to play outside linebacker opposite Brian Orakpo

--they honestly believed Andre Carter could be an outside linebacker, despite the history he had in San Fran where the same position change for him was made

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 1, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

This year's defense is 21st -- just ahead of the Patriots -- so it's not much of a dropoff considering that they're learning a new defense.

Posted by: beep-beep | December 1, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

co-sign. If next year we are looking at the same numbers for this defense, that's when Haslett will be in the firing line.

Posted by: TWISI | December 1, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse

I don't think anyone is really missing Carlos Rogers, despite this never-ending coverage of his hamstrings.

Posted by: tristesse27 | December 1, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse

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