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Posted at 12:27 PM ET, 11/29/2010

Washington Redskins are struggling at home, and fans let them know it

By Jason Reid

A team is supposed to have an edge when playing on its home field, but the Redskins have struggled at FedEx Field this season.

After Sunday's 17-13 loss to the Minnesota Vikings, Washington is only 2-4 at FedEx in its first season under Coach Mike Shanahan. In 2009, under former coach Jim Zorn, the Redskins went 3-5 at home. The Redskins went 4-4 in 2008. The team has not had a winning record on its home field since it went 5-3 in 2007.

So what's the deal? Why have the Redskins played poorly at FedEx?

"Me and some of the guys were talking about that earlier," cornerback Carlos Rogers said. "Sometimes, I think you feel, when you're at home, you feel like you're away. You know? Because you get so bashed at home [by fans] for any little mistake you get. I mean, we come to the sideline, the bench, you know, it's cussing, it's this it's that, you know, and we're just in the first quarter. It's like, 'Are we at home or we away?' If we away, sometimes, we don't even hardly hear that.

"I think we play better away so the fans are quieter. When we home ... I don't know the problem. But we still want that support from fans. Me and some guys [have been] talking about it. If you don't like the team, or you don't want to support us, through the good or the bad, why come out to the games? We still need your support. We're already down or we're already losing. But then to hear it from our fans ... it's not helpful. I mean, we try to block it out. But, still, it's not helpful from our fans."

Asked whether the Redskins have "good fans," Rogers expressed his appreciation for the fans' support.

"I love these fans. We've got good fans. Good, supportive fans," Rogers said. "Yes, they hard on us. And we do give 'em a reason to be hard on us, because we're not winning. But at the same time, you do want that support and encouragement that, 'Y'all can pull this out.' Or, 'Y'all can turn around.'

"Instead of, if another team beating us, they're still beating us, too. We're hard on ourselves. The coaches hard on us, they're hard on themselves, but it's a collective group of people. It's all of us together, including the fans. We'd like their support, too."

By Jason Reid  | November 29, 2010; 12:27 PM ET
Categories:  Carlos Rogers  
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Comments

Carlos, it's not the team...it's YOU! Catch a pick and see how much more we love you...

This dude clearly doesn't get it...time to move on.

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 29, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse

zcezcest1

The saddest part of this? McNabb played well and we still lost.


The unique perspective, then, is all about the power of benching a quarterback.

McNabb's play has improved dramatically since the benching at the lions' game and media hurricane that followed Mike Shanahan's cryptic reasoning behind it.

And losing to the Eagles at home on Monday night after signing an extension probably factors into the mix as well.

And it's all a good mix, IMO.

What seems to have helped McNabb schematically is that the redskin offense has been re-tooled to emphasize the few tools we have: Moss, Armstrong, Cooley, and Davis.

It seems that each guy has a defined role in the passing game (Cooley middle, Davis outside, Armstrong long, Moss medium), and McNabb goes to where he knows guys are.

You have to hope this trend continues as it should result in improved production and scoring once R Torain comes back to balance things out with the running game.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 29, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Yet another amazing flub from Carlos Rogers.

So now we blame your poor play on the fans.

Like wow...

No wonder they love you more in the away stadiums.

Posted by: Vic1 | November 29, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

"... The team has not had a winning record on its home field since it went 5-3 in 2007. ..."

And I think The Todd owns several of those ... and those were post-Sean Taylor wins, so without the tragedy plus The Todd, that year also would have been a "better away" year.

Posted by: dcsween | November 29, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

If you throw a "double curse" at Rogers, doesn't it go right by him?

Posted by: 4-12 | November 29, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

I don't disagree with Rogers about this. Ever since the fans booed the team in the 9-7 win over the Rams at home (the one where Robert Henson twittered and had to recant), my vibe about the $140 seat paying fans at Fed Ex is that the only difference btwn Skins fans at home and Philly fans at home is that FedEx security does not allow batteries into the stadium.

Posted by: dcsween | November 29, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

please tell me that this is a joke...he cannot, he simply cannot be this dense, nor this misinformed....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 29, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

I have watched a lot of football this year. The fact is that this is and always will be my #1 team of teams. I can see with my own eyes that this could be the worst team in the NFL. The Bills, Browns, Chiefs would all be favored to win and the Rams already did.

I am looking for no more than one more year this season against the 'Pokes. If we can finish out at 6-10 with Shannhan's (Sr. & Jr.) and Hazlenutt's systems in place, the table should be set to draft a QB of the future and do what I and other Skins fans have been screaming for:

BRING IN LINEMEN!!!! I don't care if they are OL or DL, both our lines are among the worst in the entire league if not the worst, period.

Trade away players for picks. I don't care if they are 5th or 6th rounders - TRADE 'EM!!!!

The team is now reaping what it's been sewing for the last decade plus. That's okay with me because we got what we needed most - the right coach and GM.

This team was in need of 'sweeping, wholesale changes' after going 4-12. Well, we're now in the throes of 'sweeping wholesale changes' so I guess that's why I am not so pissed.

Forget predictions for the rest of the year on a game-by-game basis. I am thinking more like 6-10 this year and 8-8 next year. Enjoy it. We are going to get younger and will be more fun to watch and if Shanny and Allen's past is a future predictor, the Redskins will be serious contenders again going into the 2012 season.

Of the Lions, Bills, Rams and Raiders, thank God only one of those teams will be drafting a QB even though Fitzpatrick is a guy that can win games in this league.

Between Luck, Cam Newton, Mallet, Locker and Nick Foles, the Skins will be in position to bring in a potential franchise QB.

Other than that, stockpile picks and don't draft ANYONE under 6'4" and 300lbs. I want our OL to be so badass that our QB walks right up to the line and says, "Hey D. Ware, we're coming right at you.....and we're snapping the ball on two!"

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | November 29, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Every bottom feeder team deals with the booing at home. Gotta start to win in spite of it all.

Posted by: TWISI | November 29, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Another reason why 22 will be on the first bus outta of here. Can he give the fans credit for watching 12 picks dropped and one bad Eastern Motor commercial. Makes me sick.

Dear Carlos,
Please send a note explaining why the Skins fans are so harsh? Is it harsh that we found 28pts in the 1st Q to starship 7 a complete joke? Is it critical to wonder why our CB's play 10 yds off the wr and let them catch a midget 6yd hitch for a 1st down? I know its are fault that you lost, maybe we could have done better..Next time Im at the game, instead of screaming to watch the play action pass, Ill walk down to sideline after you bite again on the PA and smack you in your face. Maybe thats the support you need.

Go Skins,
Dan

Posted by: dpshultzfam | November 29, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Other than that, stockpile picks and don't draft ANYONE under 6'4" and 300lbs. I want our OL to be so badass that our QB walks right up to the line and says, "Hey D. Ware, we're coming right at you.....and we're snapping the ball on two!"

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | November 29, 2010 12:54 PM

Not sure whether you've been paying attention but in the offensive blocking scheme under new management, they want lighter faster offensive linemen and Derrick Dockery is repeatedly a healthy scratch.

Posted by: dcsween | November 29, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

To Monk811: Yeah, yeah, yeah.... I saw the players on the sideline trying to get their teammates fired up. How'd that work for them? You had no comment about the rest of my post saying that I like the coach's disciplinarian approach - I really do. But when you have an over the hill squad - we are the oldest squad in the league - you do have to appeal to the warrior in them and get them fired up. What's wrong with a coach calling a timeout, getting his team gathered around him on the sideline and asking them for more? What the heck is wrong with that?

Yeah they're grown ups, they get paid well, but that in and of itself is sometimes a problem. This coach asks for a lot of accountability for his players in practice, their conditioning, their knowledge of the plays etc. - as well he should. He also does a good job of placing the blame squarely on the players whenever ANYTHING AT ALL GOES WRONG. He's got to be accountable to them in some way. REAL LEADERSHIP goes both ways. I wonder if you realize that, 811?

The great coaches know this and know how to appeal to their guys. The others just get into verbal shoving matches with them in the media. It's time to show some faith in the guys you have. If the coach doesn't believe in them, then they WILL NOT BELIEVE IN THEMSELVES!

Posted by: BenThere | November 29, 2010 12:12 PM | Report abuse

To BenThere: I purposely didn't comment on the last part of your post because I had already addressed it. But, I'll say it again cause obviously you are 'slow'!

"What do you want him to do, suit up and go play?"

A coach can only do so much to motivate the players. IT'S UP TO THE PLAYERS to get motivated. Not every game is like some movie, like 'Win one for the Gipper!', and if you think that, you should obviously stop watching football and get another hobby, I think Barbie collecting would be good for you!

So now you want to waste a timeout to give them a pep talk??? This all should have been done BEFORE THE GAME. You don't think the WHOLE TEAM already knew they were in deep sh*t and should have gotten their heads outta their azz when it was 14-0 before McNabb even attempted a pass? Come on Ben, get real, calling a timeout for the coach to yell at them would not have mattered.

REAL LEADERSHIP is what Fletch and McNabb were TRYING to do. Do you honestly think the Shannahan's were giving up??? They had on their faces the EXACT look that the rest of Redskins Nation had: the look of disbelief! That was a once in a lifetime game and circumstance, the Eagles, especially Vick, were all in a zone, nothing we did would have turned that around or changed the outcome. REAL LEADERSHIP is going out there and playing by example and never giving up, but you should understand REAL LEADERSHIP, don't they teach that at Burger King? Oops, that's beep's joke! We'll just say you work in sanitation, cause the sh*t you just spewed straight up stinks!!!

Posted by: monk811 | November 29, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse

You have to hope this trend continues as it should result in improved production and scoring once R Torain comes back to balance things out with the running game.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 29, 2010 12:46 PM

I agree about this. The imbalance in yardage was not about nowhere to run. It was about not getting beyond the second level with K. Williams and the other James somethingsomething. Too predictably up the middle on the Skins side of the 50, esp. on first down.

Posted by: dcsween | November 29, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

you're such a p u s s y rogers

name another team that fills a 90,000 seat stadium to watch garbage every week?

you're a professional, act like it


it's like that simpsons episode where bart is heckling strawberry and marge goes, bart stop heckling him

bart's like, they are pros they can handle it

while d straw is in the field crying

un f-in real

try winning some football games, ask the Skins players of the past who've won how the fans treat them

Posted by: retroskins14 | November 29, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Other than that, stockpile picks and don't draft ANYONE under 6'4" and 300lbs.


How 'bout some specifics?

I'd draft: center, right guard, right tackle (one player who can play both center/guard would be a winner)

and

nose guard, defensive tackle (and one guy who can play both spots would be a winner)

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 29, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

I agree with Rogers. Fan support is needed when the team needs to be pushed to another level, not just when they are winning. You are all a bunch of fairweather fans if you don't get that.

I have supported this team for 40 years and I will continue to do so through good and bad times. Do they make me angry, of course they do, but I picked them long ago as my favorite team and I will stick through with them.

Get on board or get out. Stop selling your freaking tickets to the opposing teams fans. It is embarrassing.

Posted by: CTCapsPhan | November 29, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Hey Carlos, U still SUXXXX!

Posted by: rlomax67 | November 29, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

I'd draft: center, right guard, right tackle (one player who can play both center/guard would be a winner)

and

nose guard, defensive tackle (and one guy who can play both spots would be a winner)

Nothing wrong about this statement, except that fact we only have a few picks. Again we will be forced to hit the FA market and overpay for some broken down lineman...

Posted by: dpshultzfam | November 29, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

The fact that the fans continue to come out to games is the sign that the team is still being supported by the fans, but what else do you expect when the team has been losing consistently since 93 or 94? It's not that the fans are fed up with this years team. The fans are fed up with the last ten years of mediocrity.

Posted by: poeticfire | November 29, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse

carlos (and whichever guys you be talkin' to),

given the product we've been given for the last 10+ years, we've been pretty darn patient w/y'all.

it does hurt when i see/hear the boos and quietness, but... man... we're just so tired of it all. we're so tired of new coaches rolling in and out of town, marginal players who feel entitled to adulation and so forth.

but i tell you, if you put a decent product out there, for more than one or two games in a row, you'll see great, loud, supportive things from the fans.

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | November 29, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Carlos, for serious? Catch some balls and you'll see fans love you more than their own mamas. Go kick Snyder while you're at it.

Posted by: katedog | November 29, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

The fact that the fans continue to come out to games is the sign that the team is still being supported by the fans, but what else do you expect when the team has been losing consistently since 93 or 94? It's not that the fans are fed up with this years team. The fans are fed up with the last ten years of mediocrity.

Posted by: poeticfire | November 29, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

New Post!!! Follow me, single file line!

Posted by: monk811 | November 29, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

i dont see how any Skins fan at this point can be fairweather, we haven't been good in 2 decades

would you rather have an empty stadium w/ nobody talkin' s h i t?

or a packed house w/ people telling you how it is?

im pretty sure most of the peeps in here are as loyal as any nfl fan

but we suck or at best average and im gonna damn well sure let the fellas know that

minus LF59, that is my dude, regardless of our record im proud he dons the burgundy and gold

Posted by: retroskins14 | November 29, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Dude are you for real?? ^$&^%$#$%# you big baby try to catch a pick once in a while instead of listening to what the fans are saying?Rogers has been avg at best from day one.It cost us one zillion dollars to get in to the stadium we can say what ever we want!! Loser

Posted by: mc11232 | November 29, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Forgetting that Washington is a transient metro area, with people coming here from all over the country for several years before returning "home", and keeping their favoritism for their home teams, Washington fans are passionate about their team and wanting to win.

As for Mr. Rogers' comment "...you get so bashed at home [by fans] for any little mistake you get." Is it to much for the fans to expect professional players, especially getting the amount of money they do, to play without mistakes? It's that the team should be mistake free, but Redskins' mistakes seem to be numerous.

As for "I don't know the problem. But we still want that support from fans. Me and some guys [have been] talking about it. If you don't like the team, or you don't want to support us, through the good or the bad, why come out to the games?

Perhaps they attend, not with the idea of not supporting the team, but the performance of the team makes them upset. Is Mr. Rogers suggesting that only fans who will accept anything the team does, good or bad, be in the stands, and not have any regard as to results? It seems that way.

Posted by: Dungarees | November 29, 2010 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Cry me a river, geeze.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | November 29, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

given the product we've been given for the last 10+ years, we've been pretty darn patient w/y'all.

it does hurt when i see/hear the boos and quietness, but... man... we're just so tired of it all. we're so tired of new coaches rolling in and out of town, marginal players who feel entitled to adulation and so forth.

but i tell you, if you put a decent product out there, for more than one or two games in a row, you'll see great, loud, supportive things from the fans.

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | November 29, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse

I see a lot of opposing teams fans in our stands. That's what I see.

Posted by: CTCapsPhan | November 29, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

This guy is unbelievable. "it's not helpful", oh please. This guy wouldn't last 2 games in Philly, New York or New England!

Posted by: FulhamDC | November 29, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Please give him some cheese with all that whine!

Posted by: tommycat | November 29, 2010 1:26 PM | Report abuse

How about the offense making a block, catch, or a decent run for a td, how about the defense getting 3 and out or a key turnover, how about the Special teams not blocking in the back or jumping offsides?

maybe then the fans would cheer a little more and you'd feel more appreciated...

Posted by: tommycat | November 29, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

I see a lot of opposing teams fans in our stands. That's what I see.

Posted by: CTCapsPhan | November 29, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse
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that's sad too. but, given the transience of this area and the "product" lately, i think it's kind of surprising there's not more of that.....

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | November 29, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

C. Rogers ARE U SERIOUS....
SOMEONE GET THIS GUY A BINKY AND A FRESH DIAPER. OH YEAH AND A NEW PAIR OF HANDS, BECAUSE HE OBVIOUSLY CANT CATCH WITH THE ONES HE HAVE.

Posted by: emanuelburwell | November 29, 2010 1:38 PM | Report abuse

wahhhhhhhhh, wahhhhhhhhhhh give him a pacifier to suckle on.

Posted by: nowhine | November 29, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Carlos; Some things are better left unsaid,yes these are the most critical fans's in the NFL next to(Phil,NY) but you get paid a ton in an economy decimated by high unemployment,foreclosures, and bank failures and you want to complain about this fan base, Dude!! count your blessings.

Posted by: dargregmag | November 29, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Yeah I agree and I'm right there Nation - but Carlos has a point. I've been a skins fan all my life and will be till I die. But there's something toxic going on here...

I moved to San Diego, and Chargers fans get down on them pretty good. But the fans here don't spew venom like the skins fans tend to do.

Hey, the Redskins players know that Redskins Nation is tough, they got the point and they're feeling the effects of friendly file.

And if the players are saying that they rally as a team better away from FedEx field, fans need to realize that their criticism is getting toxic.

Yeah yeah, I want TD's too. So how about a new idea - get behind them even when things are tough, and make them WANT to play for the fans. There is a point where encouragment makes you better.

Posted by: pharrrrtt | November 29, 2010 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Play better Carlos...toughen up.

Posted by: gogolpost | November 29, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

"If you don't like the team, or you don't want to support us, through the good or the bad, why come out to the games?" -Carlos Rogers

Amen Carlos. Amen. I have been saying this for years. The idiot fans who boo their own teams are the absolute worst. Their either too shallow or too stupid to realize they are hurting their own team.

If you are one of the idiots who booed yesterday, please do not go to any more games.

Posted by: Barno1 | November 29, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Wake up and smell the coffee 'Los: you're part of a terrible product.

Shanahan has done a good job of getting the most out of these players, but there are so many problems. This has to be at least a three or four year project.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | November 29, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

** That should have said: THEY'RE either too shallow or too stupid to realize they are hurting their own team.

Posted by: Barno1 | November 29, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Boo hoo Carlos. You're a professional athlete - get used to booing. If the team had put a better product on the field instead of handing us mediocre to downright poor play for the past 18 seasons, then we'd cheer more. Way to blame the fans for your team's poor performance.

Posted by: skinsfan713 | November 29, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Just heard Carlos Rogers complain about the home fans giving him and his teammates a hard time on the sidelines during yesterdays game. Well I have a little something to say to one Carlos Rogers....

GET THE F U C K OUT of Washingtion! If you don't like the fans booing you than play BETTER!!! Your Team is about to have their third losing season in a ROW...you get paid big money to play. This is what happens when you STINK year in and year Out! Grow up dude and take responsiblity!

Posted by: ekbinion68 | November 29, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

I am guilty of bashing Redskins players at home. I yell at Cooley to catch the ball and I yell at Moss to catch the ball. Im passionate about the team but I expect them to do well, be great. If this team would do better and start to beat down some opponents than you will hear the home crowd cheer like no other, it is then that you will realize you have a home crowd.

Posted by: pquick6165 | November 29, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Boo hoo Carlos. You're a professional athlete - get used to booing. If the team had put a better product on the field instead of handing us mediocre to downright poor play for the past 18 seasons, then we'd cheer more. Way to blame the fans for your team's poor performance.

Posted by: skinsfan713 | November 29, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse
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And another thing - our stadium - which will always be The Big Jack to me - is entirely to large. If the team wants more of a home field advantage, cut the next stadium down to 75,000 or so, and it will keep out some of the interlopers from the visiting teams. This will never happen b/c The Danny makes a fortune w/ 90,000.

Posted by: skinsfan713 | November 29, 2010 2:02 PM | Report abuse

I have a crazy idea, stop making stupid mistakes and win some games. These players haven't won anything, yet they act like they have. Look in the mirror. We're not the problem. Stop finding ways to lose and we'll stop finding reasons to boo.

Posted by: BillyBeane | November 29, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

LOL... These guys don't get it. Cash a game check for $65,000 or so while the rest of us "fans" pay sixty bucks to see your dumb a$$ play like crap.

Parking stinks, beer prices stink, the seating stinks and about half the players stink but if the fans decide to boo,"Its not helpful".

Wa wa wa, poor baby. How about making some plays, maybe you might hear some cheers?

Posted by: muddapucker | November 29, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

45 points in a half will do that....

Posted by: Scoonie97 | November 29, 2010 2:08 PM | Report abuse

For what The Danny is charging coupled with the traffic, parking, and losing record; Rogers should be grateful we care enough to berate him.

Posted by: clandestinetomcat | November 29, 2010 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Fans do get rather frustrated when their teams do not win. It is just the "Nature of the Beast"
Lets just accuate the positive, and look for the negatives to become things of the past.

Posted by: HLSHAP | November 29, 2010 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Fans do get rather frustrated when their teams do not win. It is just the "Nature of the Beast"
Lets just accuate the positive, and look for the negatives to become things of the past.

Posted by: HLSHAP | November 29, 2010 2:18 PM | Report abuse

the place is a dump and the fans are like being in a Walmart.

Posted by: bal503 | November 29, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

LOL...Look who's talking

Ol' Brickhands himself

And this is not the first time he's complained about this. And shockingly, his played has remained consistent.

So he's plays the same but expects a different response?

Interesting...

Posted by: kahlua87 | November 29, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Try playing in NY or Philly.

Posted by: loux24 | November 29, 2010 2:33 PM | Report abuse

retroskins14 wrote:
try winning some football games, ask the Skins players of the past who've won how the fans treat them
| November 29, 2010 1:06 PM
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STRAIGHT UP!
Hey Carlos, A couple summers ago fans drove to the middle of god-for-saken Ohio, in the summer, to cheer for one Redskin, for five minutes, straight. The outpouring of fan love was unreal, yes grown men wept. Catch a few balls and we would do the same for you. Promise.

p.s. Gary Clark (that would be #84) still draws a crowd. A passionate one. He’s almost 50 years old.

Posted by: katedog | November 29, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse

The guys have a lot of nerve. They need to realize that this city used to be full of passionate, loud fans that would do anything to support their team.

But they're sick of it. Sick of poor play. Sick of mediocrity and half-way efforts. This team is lucky to have five wins. Were it not for colossal mistakes by their opponents, they'd have one or two wins tops. This teams last home game was a hideous embarrassment, then they come back and lose to a bad Minnesota team.

If they don't like the booing tough spit. Get over it and play like professionals. This team is an embarrassment to the colors and logo and to the fans that are forking over tons of money to watch them.

Posted by: jollyroger2 | November 29, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

OMG!! I work in a customer service position where I am getting yelled at all day. I wish I made millions playing a kids game, you can yell crap at me all you want, I'll have enough to retire in 1 year!! As a matter of fact, at least as a pro ball player, I have a direct impact on what the fans do and say. Stop it already!! You are being a whiney baby, Rogers!! Grow the F up. You have been living outside the real world for too friggin long!!

Oh, I get it, we should cheer after a interception, cheer after six 3 and outs in a row, cheer the fumble, cheer when we give up a long play on D. Quite frankly Rogers, we are sick of losing more or less since the mid '80s. Go play somewhere else, whiner.

Posted by: csquare67 | November 29, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Well Mr. Rogers this won't be your neighborhood for much longer and boy am I happy they didn't sign you to a long term deal I mean 5-6 yrs in the league and you still play like a rookie at times. And if you really want to understand Redskins fans then study the history and tradition maybe it will inspire you and your colleages to give better efforts...sad thing is not one player on this roster knows anything about the great games played at RFK and how teams were intimidated at coming there to play...yes we rocked that stadium because those players/teams who got paid far less than any of you today players had heart, pride and dedication to the city/team and fans. Since our last Superbowl we have not had a team who year in and year out could be consistent instead for the last 18 years we go in hoping for the best and getting the worst in most cases, sure teams go through rough times but when the inmates are running the asylum or you have the likes of Casserly, Vinnie etc., making the decisions and screwing things up eventually the masses will turn against you...in closing we love our colors, we love our team it's some of the characters in the uniforms that we boo...

Posted by: papaskynz | November 29, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Hey Carlos....I had to get a second job during the recession to be able to afford my season tickets. Unfortunately I was unable to get out of my contract - I am a club level ticket holder and I am not an old lady so no one feels bad for me. For 11 seasons I flew back to DC from Detroit to watch and cheer for the Redskins. I have thousands of dollars of receipts and plenty of monday mornings with no voice from screaming support for the team. Don't tell ME I am not supportive. And yes - when you guys start to lack effort - I boo.

Get your boss to let me out of my contract and you'll never have to hear me again.

Hail.

Posted by: Brian48 | November 29, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

I have noticed a lot more booing these days than in the past. I don't like the feel that the booing creates in the stadium. The biggest problem is fans reselling their tickets....please, if you don't go to the game, please don't sell your tix on stubhub, either find a fellow skins fan or keep them at home.

The loyal fans don't boo, because the loyal fans are by now used to these losing seasons, and don't buy into the year by year hype that Snyder creates. The lesson here is that cheer your team on, it is our duty as fans. It's the hypocritical fans that expected a winning season this year as a result of a patchwork off-season. Those are the fans that are booing...oh yeah and the really drunk ones.

Posted by: SkinsWins | November 29, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

It is precisely for ignorant and arrogant players like him who have an over inflated opinion of their worth that we will never succeed as a team. Remember the humble days of hogs, smurfs, etc... He should have a free session with Art Monk to learn about class and humility. I spent over $1500.00 for 6 club seats yesterday, parking ticket. Invested 11 hours of my time, sat in the parking lot for 2 hours in traffic trying to get out. Unfortunately as long as we have this owner, the culture will be the same regardless of the parts. He is pretty young so expect this for the next 35-40 years folks.

Posted by: ali10 | November 29, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

SHUTUP YOU STONEHANDS MORON.

Posted by: DCFanatic | November 29, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

oh, right, sorry, I guess I misunderstood. Winning and losing is something the fans do, and the players? What's their job? How about the owner?

Carlos, the fans should be supportive, but when players lay down on the field, or strut around the field like a crowing rooster when they make a simple tackle the fans will get jaded.

So, call me jaded. Call me a fair weather fan, I don't care. I'll do my job, you do yours.

Posted by: 44fx2901 | November 29, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

I'm not hypocritical, and i've never been drunk at a Skins game I'm a diehard burgundy and gold fan...I hate Dallas more than you can believe but I also hate losing consistently and in stupid ways! Have I booed at games yes I have at the opposing team, the officials for bad calls and at a home team that can't seem to get out of their own way. I've been around long enough to see the glory days the first Superbowl albeit a loss I was a Freshman in high school it was a tough loss but I didn't boo that team because they played hard and got to the big dance. I've rocked with the rest of old RFK crew help close it down with that win over the Cowgirls so it's not always the drunks/hypocrites etc., and btw Carlos the people who I deal with on a daily basis far and wide this country and others let me know when I do a good job and surely let me know when they aren't happy but that just makes me work harder to improve if it's me. As that saying goes the customer is always right!!!

Posted by: papaskynz | November 29, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

and the way that they play , not helping the fans of this sorry team either.

Posted by: lostdogrwd1011 | November 29, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

"spent over $1500.00 for 6 club seats yesterday, parking ticket. Invested 11 hours of my time, sat in the parking lot for 2 hours in traffic trying to get out."

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As long as people like you do that, The Danny is happy and making money...ching ching....the cash flows. For that amount, go buy some bicycles for you and your family, it was great riding in Rock Creek yesterday....no traffic lines, free access, and The Danny gets no money that way either. In fact all of your season ticket holder suckers......forgetSkins football and get outside.

Posted by: nowhine | November 29, 2010 3:45 PM | Report abuse

shut up and do your job 22.

Posted by: jeffhayes1 | November 29, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Get your boss to let me out of my contract and you'll never have to hear me again.

Hail.

Posted by: Brian48 | November 29, 2010 3:22 PM
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Carlos,aka StoneFinger, this seems to be the setiment of many at FedEx that I know. I may boo as well if I had this product forced on me. Li'l Dan doesn't care who fills his seats as long as they pay. Why do you think they sell to ticket brokers who sell to opposing fans? Get used to it StoneFinger, as you are not deserving of cheers yet.

Posted by: splitbill | November 29, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

It is precisely for ignorant and arrogant players like him who have an over inflated opinion of their worth that we will never succeed as a team. Remember the humble days of hogs, smurfs, etc... He should have a free session with Art Monk to learn about class and humility. I spent over $1500.00 for 6 club seats yesterday, parking ticket. Invested 11 hours of my time, sat in the parking lot for 2 hours in traffic trying to get out. *****************************************************************************************

Speaking of ignorant and arrogant, if you don't like the game day experience, don't go to the games. There, problem solved. Some of you Redskins fans are as childish and spoiled as the players you complain about. Don't go to the stadium, behave like an a**, and then try to justify it by telling us how much you spent. Do you think the Redskins are the only NFL team that struggles? Almost all of them struggle. Ask Lions fans about struggling. Ask Browns fans, or Bengals fans, or Raiders fans, or 49ers fans. So don't tell me it's ok for you to be a jerk because your team is struggling.

Posted by: sonny2 | November 29, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

If the current Redskins players want supportive treatment, then they must play as consummate professionals worthy of such. You don't get much benefit of the doubt just by taking a check and donning a jersey. If your effort is not commensurate with the expected play of a Redskin, than we will let you know about it. It may not be fair to newer players, or players having to adjust to a scheme, but life isn't fair boys. Perhaps if you saw all the people struggling to find real work for something that will feed their family and keep a roof over their heads, you might be a bit more minded to put forth more effort.

Posted by: murrayh | November 29, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Hard to believe, but Rogers' grammar is worse than his stone hands.

Posted by: lp_lodestar | November 29, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Hate to say it but CR has a point.

However, he should consider the fans' perspective: Fans pay alot of $ for a HORRIBLE game-day experience, only to have to sit through hours of often-lousy football played by a well-paid, arrogant, under-achieving team that just isn't as good as they think they are. It's not easy being a Skins fan. I know how aggravated & frustrated I get, & I don't have season tix!

Posted by: nyskinsdiehard | November 29, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Here's the problem:

A four-time Super Bowl winner, Pro Bowler and All-Pro and a recent Hall of Fame inductee, Grimm remains a very underrated candidate for a head-coaching job next season despite the problems the Cardinals are having this year. Grimm was strongly considered before for head-coaching gigs in Chicago (2004) and Pittsburgh (2007).

"Everyone forgets. It was falling apart in Pittsburgh until Russ Grimm and Ken Whisenhunt came aboard," a personnel executive said. "They saved Bill Cowher's job. The Rooney family did not want to lose those guys. Can you imagine if they were still there, with Dick LeBeau as defensive coordinator, how strong they would be? It was a great plan. But they were too good to keep down, and a few years later they are playing each other in the Super Bowl? How great is that?

"Russ is like Andy Reid. He may not quite look the part, but the team that puts him in place is going to have a football coach for a long time."

The Deadskins hire a loser like Bruce Allen to run the front office and they won't give a Hall of Fame Hog with four more Super Bowl Rings than Danny Snyder the head coaching job? What's wrong with this picture?

Mikey must have naughty pictures of Danny or something. No one with that much money could be that stupid on purpose.

As far as Deadskins players moaning about the fans is concerned, four words:

GET USED TO IT!

Posted by: cbtole2 | November 29, 2010 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Dear Carlos,

SHUT UP!

Signed,
Everyone

Posted by: DoomKing | November 29, 2010 4:49 PM | Report abuse

rogers is an idiot...he talks like one, plays like one..what a waste of a 1st round draft pick, 9th overall I believe. wow, what a pathetic draft that was...traded two picks to get JC17 right after this idiot. he contradicts himself as well...crazy. I think this insider dude enjoys printing the moronic statements that come out of Assburn, and after the last 17 years or so I don't blame him. I've had seats on my own for 15 years, turned over to me by my family who started going when RFK was built. Does Fedex suck? yes...why? BECAUSE THE TEAM ALWAYS SUCKS AND THEY NEVER WIN THERE. Now if he, as a professional mind you, is going to blame the fans for them losing year in and year out then they should just cut his stupid stone hand ass now and get it over with. They already made it clear to him in the offseason that he was not going to be here after this year. get rid of the blathering idiot, he's a disgrace to the organization

Posted by: lang77 | November 29, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Why did you go ALL the way back. I don't think the skins have had a home field advantage since they arrived at Fedex Field.

You have to play well first to get a home field advantage and that simply hasn't happened around here for a long time.

And the fans are just as sorry. For the longest time skins fans didn't know how to be a 12th man. They screamed (because many were drunk) to the top of their lungs even when the skins had the ball and needed quiet.

If the team was any good over the past 10 years they wouldn't be hammered by the crowd and the crowd wouldn't be more populated by the visiting teams fans.

These guys suck and will continue to be reminded of that by the fans AND IT'S A GOOD THING.

Posted by: keedrow | November 29, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Carlos, I just have one word for you, "Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!"

Posted by: JohnWWW | November 29, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

I completely agree with Rogers. If you're a fan, support the team. Why in the world would they deliberately make mistakes or play poorly.

It's not helpful to the team or the "good" fans who're sitting there listening to it.

Stay at home and yell at your T.V. if you're not adult enough to support the team!

Posted by: spencercoleman1 | November 29, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Anyone who has to drive to, and sit in that lousy stadium and pay those prices to keep Danny in gold, has a right to be cranky if The Skins are not deep into the Playoffs every year!

Posted by: JPMcC | November 29, 2010 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Anyone who has to drive to, and sit in that lousy stadium and pay those prices to keep Danny in gold, has a right to be cranky if The Skins are not deep into the Playoffs every year!

Posted by: JPMcC | November 29, 2010 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Butterfingers needs to worry more about his game and less about our dissatisfaction with it.

Posted by: Chigliak | November 29, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

To Monk811: Oh I see you how you roll. You run from article to article and post the same crap. Well at Burger King we don't run. We stand our ground and have an honest debate without name calling and such. But that's what intelligent people do. I guess they don't teach you that at Bath and Body Works.

Posted by: BenThere | November 29, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

maybe if Carlos weren't so busy dropping passes for millions and was paying $12k a year for seats, watching a mediocre at best product for going on two decades, and getting railroaded on expensive yet cheap beer he would see things a little clearer. Carlos, stop whining and make an interception you punk.

Posted by: 4472jon | November 29, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse

maybe if Carlos weren't so busy dropping passes for millions and was paying $12k a year for seats, watching a mediocre at best product for going on two decades, and getting railroaded on expensive yet cheap beer he would see things a little clearer. Carlos, stop whining and make an interception you punk.

Posted by: 4472jon | November 29, 2010 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Why did I go to games the last two years and suffer? My wife got us two season tickets when Gibbs was hired and it was a six year oontract. It ended last year and I was saying to the buddy I used to go with, thank God we don't have to put up with this anymore, serenity is just a remort away. Danny, do us all a favor, sell the team, but first demolish FedEx, and go back to being a fan because you have ruined the team.

Posted by: rckymtnmoose | November 29, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Maybe the fans are tired of paying some of the highest prices in the NFL for the WORST gameday experience in the NFL and one of the worst products on the field in the NFL over the past 15 years? Maybe catcing one of those potential INT's and winning more games will make people cheer instead of boo. Maybe people just hate Carlos Rogers because he cant catch a cold?

Posted by: shrshot | November 29, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Give me a break with this post. This is what happens with 15 years of mediocrity. The fans are paying the players salary by paying tons of money to go to Fed Ex every sunday and they have the right to boo when the team plays like they do.

Theres only way to make the fans not boo, and that is playing more consistently and winning games. Until then the fans have every right to show their dissatisfaction with the teams performance. Maybe if Carlos spent his energy on working on his hands the skins might have a couple more wins.

Posted by: dcsportsfan51 | November 29, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

When you take millions of dollars to play a game then you should expect the fans to come down on you when you can't play at that level. Rogers is average at best. I served in the MSMC for 22 years. For the first 15 I was tormented by my NCO's on a daily basis for my failures. I had no one to blame but myself. Sure wish I could have blamed it on others. Rogers sucks. No other way to describe him. Without football, he would be working at a car wash somewhere.

Posted by: Cobra2 | November 29, 2010 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Eventually, the whole Washington area will wise up and change the NICK...yes, I said change the nickname..period. Ask yourself would it be kosher to be called the Blackskins...Whiteskins ???. Grow up Washington and join the 21st centure. Especially you black players..think about it..would you enjoy being the Blackskins? Well, the american indians don't either but they don't have the clout do anything about it. The NAACP could if they wanted to represent ALL non-whites.

Posted by: minnelusa | November 29, 2010 5:26 PM | Report abuse

I sympathize with Rogers. My kid, unfortunately, has to hear the same curses. The atmosphere at Redskins games has changed completely since the RFK days. Games at FedEx have become an orgy of ugly drunkenness, aggression, and general anti-social behavior. A mediocre team isn't the only reason Snyder is having trouble filling the seats. He's got to clamp down on the drunkenness and restore the family atmosphere that used to prevail.

Posted by: NatGreene | November 29, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Dear Carlos,
Speak English- it barrassin, man

Thanks,

Everyone

Posted by: bszdnva | November 29, 2010 5:35 PM | Report abuse

What? Jason Reid is about to be placed in the bin with Eric Prisbell, or their corresponding editors. I cannot believe the headline and, frankly, can't get past it.

The reason there is less home field advantage here is two fold. First, the move from RFK. It was the best.....period. But the move to the "Big Jack," which is a hole, took all that away.

Add in, number two, the antics of "boy wonder" and his inability to keep his hand out of the honey jar.....and hence the amazing won/loss record he has racked up as owner.......

That being said, I honestly believe that the Redskins have now turned the corner. We are stuck with that god forsaken money pit of a stadium until someone builds a new one, but to his credit......WAY too late....but still, Snyder fired his butt buddy Cerrato, and hired a real GM.

Granted, he did that the same way he hired Zorn, backed into it ash end first, but neither Allen, nor Shanahan, are nonsense guys. They are here to win.

Shanahan has made a few mistakes, sure. Sitting Haynesworth against the Colts, and benching McNabb with a 1:50 left, come to mind. (And, until this week, I was thinking the whole father-son thing might be overrated. But I do like the way Kyle tried the wildcat.)

But the point is, these guys, Allen and Shanahan, are here to win. And, I think Danny is finally learned to stop suing/harassing little old ladies because they couldn't afford the season tickets they bought 20 years ago for a team that hasn't been to the playoffs since.

Get a life Danny. Your wife does more charity work than you. Just sayin'.

But to blame the fans? No way. The stadium is too big. It's taken away any intimacy. It is a monster, in a bad way. And because we haven't been winning and the stadium was never supposed to really fill the club level......yes, other teams' fans can buy tickets. It's easier to get Redskin tickets these days than tickets for the Caps. And believe me, having been a Skins fan since age 5, I'm not really thrilled with that. But to blame the fans?

No. Jason. You are wrong to even bring it up. Slow day? Too much turkey in your system, buddy? Where's Wilbon when you need him?

I've been to many stadiums and many games around the country. I remember when the Colts fans would give Irsay the time of day and he moved in the middle of the night. Steelers' fans, great when they are winning. Chiefs' fans are the real deal. Win or lose, they are there. Cowboy fans....lol.....they just want to be hated.....and we can't even do that anymore. Philly fans, puke and batteries....I was born in Philly, neither scare me. Packers' fans, like KC. Bears' fans, less so, but still good. Minneapolis, pass the wine and cheese in the dome. Oakland? Their owner is crazier than ours, and they know it. And San Fran hasn't been the same since DeBartolo left.

So whose that leave? Giants? New England (talk about johnny come lately), St. Louis, Cleveland, Arizona?

Give me a break.......

Posted by: steven09 | November 29, 2010 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Most redskins fans think NFL football is Madden 10!!!

I am a fan and I can admit many Redskins fans are foolish!!! if they weren't they would not fall for the hype year after year. That's not loyalty, that's foolishness. Redskin fans have forgotten or never understood how a team was built. We r a last place team, on par with the Detroit's and Buffalo's for the past 10-years, but we think each year, each game is going to be ours. Yet, what have they added or improved? one big name free agent or one trade a year and the rest of teh 53-man roster is pointless.

Since Snyder i have had to take a step back. the Redskins are a farce. We lose games every week for 1 or 2 reasons. Our offense line cannot generate the run, or our defensive line cannot stop the run. it's been the same story for 10-year now. Yet, we always find teh 1 player solution. McNabb was supposed to make up for all the ineptness of Jason campbell. Funny, even with McNabb's obvious savvy JC did not have, McNabb still runs for his life. Our team lacks talent. It lacks play makers. Look at the Ravens right up the road. Quality talent at virtually every positions. What do we have? Names to put on a flyer. Names which scare no one in the NFL. But names that still sell.

Posted by: simplewords999 | November 29, 2010 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Dear Carlos,

We understand that you didn't grow up in the area and do not know how bad the skins have been ohhh the past 20+ years. Just imagine if Auburn was playing .500 football for the past 20 years but still had the support when they were in the national champ contention.

All we currently are asking for is perhaps winning the division, when is the last time we did that? Or a playoff win now and then. And perhaps a Super Bowl appearance once a decade or two? The last time we went to the super bowl was 22 years ago. That is what our expectations are around here and it has been awhile since we actually accomplished one of those things. And quite frankly it doesn't appear that we are any closer to those goals.

It has been a very long time since team was very good let alone great. Thank you for your patience and understand in the matter.

Posted by: dcinmd1 | November 29, 2010 5:54 PM | Report abuse

.......I agree with brownwood......It's not the fans that are lacking in this town. With Snyder hiring Allen and Shanahan, and Leonsis taking over the basketball team, it's no longer the owners (may Abe and JKC RIP).

What's lacking in this town, sportswise that is), with the exception of people gone by like Wilbon, Brennon, Michaels and Wolf, is sports reporters.

I will say, I do like Britt McHenry's reports. Smart gal. (I wouldn't expect anything less from a Northwestern grad.) But otherwise, there's little light at the end of the tunnel. And I would have normally expected more from the Post.

Posted by: steven09 | November 29, 2010 5:55 PM | Report abuse

It's just what happened in Vietnam, when our soldiers were stabbed in the back by draft-dodgers at home. So the Redskins are being undermined by a fifth-column of treacherous fans who constantly carp and ridicule what they do on the field. These know-nothings are sapping morale both in the public and in the team, and we are soon going to see an explosive confrontation unless they shape up.

Posted by: edwardallen54 | November 29, 2010 6:00 PM | Report abuse

Apparently, Rogers majored in English at Auburn then did his post-graduate studies in grammar and syntax under Professor Portis at Redskin University.

Posted by: BB703 | November 29, 2010 6:02 PM | Report abuse

Buwhahahaahahahhahaha... and there you have it ladies and gents, evidence of the intellectual prowess and mastery of grammar needed to get a sociology degree from the great university of Auburn.

Posted by: tristesse27 | November 29, 2010 6:08 PM | Report abuse

17 years of crap football will make anyone irritable there Carlos. I remember watching the press conference where Joe Gibbs announced his first retirement in '93. If someone had told me then that by 2010 the 'skins would have been in exactly FOUR playoff games, I would have been like no way. But players have come and gone, and coaches have come and gone, but it's the same mediocre team year after year. I'm sick of it, and if I hadn't long since quit giving Little Danny my money, I'd be there booing along with everyone else.

Posted by: john65001 | November 29, 2010 6:36 PM | Report abuse

To the Redskins, we the fans love you, it shows at every soldout home game, it shows because you play for one of the richest franchises in the league. But when we come to the games we expect good execution from players who get paid to practice and gets paid to execute. We expect the coaches to coach to our players strengths and help them develope. We expect them to scheme each individual opponent. We your die hard fans have been getting cheated for years and now you guys are hearing it. When you guys forget your bad play or bad game and try to move on to the next game, we have to re-live it everyday from the Ravens fans, NY fans, Philly fans, and yes even the lowly Cowgirl fans because even they beat us year in and year out. We the fans deserve better... like it or not the Skins deserve the heckles and boos until they play better.

Posted by: torch282 | November 29, 2010 6:38 PM | Report abuse

OH Carlos!!! No support? Dear God! How about you chodes don't strut around after you do something half way decent like you just won the Superbowl. Carlos Rogers....SOFT.... Super fantastic Chode....That is all.

Posted by: CHODE101 | November 29, 2010 6:41 PM | Report abuse

"I can see with my own eyes that this could be the worst team in the NFL."

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Nope, the SeaPuppies of Seattle have that dubious distinction.

The whining from players is amusing. They're professionals, they would not have made it this far if they were that thin-skinned.

Posted by: tjconnor | November 29, 2010 6:42 PM | Report abuse

I just thought of a brilliant way for the Redskins to get their fans to stop booing them:

STOP SUCKING ELEPHANT D*** EVERY F***ING GAME. YOU HAVE NO HEART, AND I WISH I COULD STAND NEXT TO YOUR BEDS AT NIGHT AND BOO YOU. YOU ARE A BUNCH OF OVERPAID BABIES, AND I WANT LITERALLY ALL OF YOU GONE (except maybe mcnabb and london fletcher and trent williams).

IF YOU SPENT AS MUCH TIME LEARNING TO COVER RECEIVERS (or learning to catch a football, for that matter) AS YOU SPENT WHINING ABOUT YOUR OWN FANS, YOU'D PROBABLY BE A GOOD CB. two words for ya carlos: DOUBLE MOVE. UR A JOKE

GTFO OUT OF DC YOU HEARTLESS LOSERS. WE ARE THE BEST FOOTBALL FANS ON EARTH

phew. that felt good.

Posted by: leedisantis | November 29, 2010 6:46 PM | Report abuse

Make a play, Carlos, rather than stand there and watch your man catch a pass for another first down. Or maybe actually make an interception, or stop a 41 yr old QB from icing the game with a 9 yard run. Maybe then the crowd will cheer. Or you can just continue to whine,while another season goes down the drain.

Posted by: 4merskinsfan | November 29, 2010 6:50 PM | Report abuse

I cannot believe Carlos Rogers is so stupid. He lets a tight end beat him on third and eight in the third quarter and then says his hamstring is hurt. If you actually did something that even remotely resembled a good play the fans would show you the love.

Posted by: rmcpks73 | November 29, 2010 6:53 PM | Report abuse

He should use his millions to buy some verbs. And brains.

Posted by: cpwdc | November 29, 2010 6:57 PM | Report abuse

Besides being functionally illiterate based on his grammar, Rogers is an ungrateful creep.

Posted by: camper3 | November 29, 2010 7:18 PM | Report abuse

yes.. you played great in Detroit and St. Louis.. gimme a break..

Posted by: big_daddy_mayhem | November 29, 2010 7:18 PM | Report abuse

Regardless of whether the man has made or blown some plays, that has nothing to do with his main point, and he is spot on with that.

The other thing is all you season ticket holders who sell your tickets to fans of the opponents. Remember two years ago when the Steelers fans took over our house? WTF is up with that? If you can't be there, give up the tickets to other 'Skins fans. Is that too hard to figure out? And if you can't afford them, well...

Posted by: tmkelley | November 29, 2010 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Hey Rogers, we pay $110 per game to watch you drop passes my 7 year old could catch year after year.

1 home playoff game since early 90's and most of us grew up watching Darrell Green so we are used to seeing greatness not some bum with no hands but big ears.

Posted by: RG10 | November 29, 2010 7:26 PM | Report abuse

$110 a game to watch you drop passes my 7 year old can make
1 home playoff game since 1991.

We are used to seeing Darrell Green and are now subjected to a dumb ass with no hands but big ears.

Posted by: RG10 | November 29, 2010 7:29 PM | Report abuse

Carlos,

You're right, it's the fans that have led a decade long of poor playing with the signing of overpaid, over-the-hill, spoiled millionaires. This is the NFL bro, and the last thing you need to be thinking about is the one-off comment here and there that you may hear from a jerk on the sideline at FedEx Field. DO YOUR JOB...instead of blaming the fans. Just remember that the next time you cash that paycheck after getting burned by a tightend.

Posted by: teezu007 | November 29, 2010 7:32 PM | Report abuse

Having seen games in a few stadiums, FedEx is the worst game day experience in the league and it is not particularly close. In addition to the price gouging for parking and concessions, ridiculous ticket prices and complete inability to manage parking and traffic, it is antiseptic and absorbs crowd noise. THe whole building is designed to extract money, no more and no less. Heck, they make public transportation hard to get more people to park, and then get local jurisdictions to cut off alternatives. Remember, these are the same people who sued old ladies who were wiped out in the financial crisis.

No one should be surprised that since the Skins are in a period of extended medicrity (and that is being generous) fans of other teams pick up tickets and treat it as a weekend away. I stopped going to FedEx because I got tired of the whole thing, preferring now to watch on TV than deal with all the headaches. Crazy as it sounds, it is more convenient and pleasant to go to M&T Bank Stadium to see the Ravens. Yikes.

Man, I miss RFK. I tried to tell my sons what it was like at a Skins game at RFK, and they can scarcely believe it (of couse, from their perspective, they can scarcely believe that the Skins were an elite NFL organization once). FedEx will never capture that. Too big, too expensive, too inaccessible. Can we go back to RFK?? Please???

Posted by: haunches | November 29, 2010 7:33 PM | Report abuse

Redskins fans are still filling the stadium after a miserable Decade of Danny. For that, Carlos Rogers and the rest of this band of losers should happily give every fan a handjob during halftime.

Except Carlos would drop your junk right into your beer. Better have Fat Albert do it -- wait, he'd sleepwalk through it. How 'bout McNabb? No, he'd jerk it too hard and it'd end up in the dirt.

On second thought, forget it. Redskins fans should just continue to sell their tickets to opposing fans.

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Posted by: zhengee22 | November 29, 2010 7:47 PM | Report abuse

I know I'm in the minority - but think about it..


HE IS RIGHT!!!

Skins fans blow -
#1 we let opposing teams fans sit and cheer their brains out in our house and do nothing.

#2 we constantly bash our own players.

Get over it - root for the Home team - plain and simple. Stop listening to stupid ANTI REDSKINS Sports radio stations we have.

Don't be a hater!

Posted by: my1xrulz | November 29, 2010 7:55 PM | Report abuse

Carlos please get out of Washington DC.

You clearly don't have any idea of what fan support means. The Skins are BLESSED to have die hard fans across the globe. Despite crappy and below average performance by prima donnas and drama queens like you, the fans have rooted for the Skins.

However, OUR patience is running thin! Can you blame us? For the past 12 plus years, this once storied franchise has become the laughing stock of the NFL, and NFL pre-game shows.

When teams like the Detroit Lions, St. Louis Rams beat us ... there is something wrong.

Someone posted, "please tell me that this is a joke...he cannot, he simply cannot be this dense, nor this misinformed..."

Yes, this JOKER is clearly that dumb, dense, insensitive, and misinformed. He has no gratitude for the fans who ultimately pay his salary ...

Carlos "the loser" Rogers

Carlos "butter fingers" Rogers

Carlos "stone hands" Rogers ... are all apt nicknames for you!

You and your buddy Jason Campbell were wasted picks. For Jason, we gave up a 1st, 3rd and 4th round pick! AND, you "loser" weren't worth a 1st round pick period.

Wish the Skins play Kevin Barnes, and cut your sorry little tail out of here.

You sir, are not welcome by the Skin fans anymore.

Posted by: mi6-007 | November 29, 2010 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Wow. Life is SOOOOOOO hard.

Posted by: JC23 | November 29, 2010 8:10 PM | Report abuse

You know what makes many fans so "bitter"?

The knowledge that Dan Snyder will probably be around for 40 more years.

Dan Snyder's sleazeball character poisons every move this team makes, from the way he rips off fans to his insistence on hiring only big names first and then worrying about "little things" like the interior linemen later.

Nobody likes to hear the truth, but as long as Dan Snyder owns this team, there is NO chance for a turnaround.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and thinking that the results will be "different this time."

By that standard, Redskins Nation has been clinically insane for the past dozen years.

The only way out of this is to sell your tickets and boycott the team until the Little Napoleon gets the message. There is no real alternative.

In the meantime, the Ravens are looking pretty good.

Posted by: andym108 | November 29, 2010 8:22 PM | Report abuse

Hey Carlos....Can you hear me now?........

"You Suck !"

Posted by: JONJJ | November 29, 2010 8:35 PM | Report abuse

Carlos,
The fans are actually more frustrated and down about the teams inconsistency and losses. Unlike you, who is getting paid to play, the fans have to pay to see you play. Don't you realize that the cost of your contract is passed onto the fans by way of increased ticket costs? So, when we are frustrated or upset at your inconsistent play how else to let you know? Fans are not allowed in the locker room before or after games to give you their insight. They are not allowed on the field to speak to you and voice their frustrations or support. The only way that we have to communicate with you is by either cheers or boos.
You may think that you are just making little mistakes, but the fans who watch you expect more from you. We expect that a player making a minimum of $285,000 or your salary in excess of $1M should not be making so many little mistakes. When you compare what you make to what you do, you should be able to understand that someone who works all year to bring home $60,000 before taxes would expect more from you. And one thing that they do not expect is to be blamed for any of your little mistakes.
We all support you. Make no mistake, but because of your talent we have high expectations.
Mark

Posted by: Wizardsfaninexile | November 29, 2010 8:37 PM | Report abuse

I agree with my1xrulz, who said:

I know I'm in the minority - but think about it..

HE IS RIGHT!!!

Skins fans blow -
#1 we let opposing teams fans sit and cheer their brains out in our house and do nothing.

#2 we constantly bash our own players.

Get over it - root for the Home team - plain and simple. Stop listening to stupid ANTI REDSKINS Sports radio stations we have.

Don't be a hater!

Posted by: ACounter | November 29, 2010 8:42 PM | Report abuse

Yes, we fans are guilty. It is our fault we have gone to the playoffs just twice in 10 years. We are the receivers who can not catch. We are the safeties who get burned. We can't tackle. We can't block. We can't hit the open man. We hold. We block in the back. We jump off sides. Still, we do get paid well.

Posted by: abrockway | November 29, 2010 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Yes, we fans are guilty. It is our fault we have gone to the playoffs just twice in 10 years. We are the receivers who can not catch. We are the safeties who get burned. We can't tackle. We can't block. We can't hit the open man. We hold. We block in the back. We jump off sides. Still, we do get paid well.

Posted by: abrockway | November 29, 2010 8:47 PM | Report abuse

That's funny! Bad blocks. Miserable defense. Cornerbacks who grease their hands. Porous offensive line. And it's the fan's fault. Ummmm. Like Philly has the most supportive fans in the world? Don't blame the fans, son. Put the blame where it belongs. It's the hot dog vendor's fault!

Posted by: goaway1 | November 29, 2010 9:01 PM | Report abuse

It is the fan's fault, really? Well let's fix that, we will stop going to the games and they can play in an empty stadium.

The reason the fans boo is that they pay good money, waste their Sundays, year after year after year after year watching millionaires play like a division 2 school. They are not going to take it anymore.

Posted by: kathymac1 | November 29, 2010 9:12 PM | Report abuse

It is the fan's fault, really? Well let's fix that, we will stop going to the games and they can play in an empty stadium.

The reason the fans boo is that they pay good money, waste their Sundays, year after year after year after year watching millionaires play like a division 2 school. They are not going to take it anymore.

Posted by: kathymac1 | November 29, 2010 9:12 PM | Report abuse

Money grubbing Dan $nyder could care less how fans feel, as he knows they'll continue to pay good money to support a poor product. Boo all you want, lemmings. You'll be back next Sunday with your silly jersies on.

Posted by: password11 | November 29, 2010 9:14 PM | Report abuse

Carlos Rogers is making $1,409,780 this season.

That means fans in Fedex Field need to buy 187,970 Budweisers at $7.50 each to pay his salary. That 23,496 beers per home game.

For that, fans get a big mouth, a prima donna attitude, and...

one interception.

Posted by: clandestinetomcat | November 29, 2010 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, Carlos, we'll do better next time. We won't throw balls in the dirt, too low for the receivers to catch. We won't throw too high or too low and when we're asked to play wide receiver or tight end, we won't drop any of the passes that hit us right in the numbers. We also won't let a rookie running back carry two of us in the end zone for a touchdown. We'll be sure to get more than 29 yards rushing and we won't block anyone in the back to negate a touchdown. And most of all, we promise not to let a 41 year-old quarterback run 8 yards for first down the seal our defeat. You're right. It's all our fault.

Posted by: Bob22003 | November 29, 2010 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Yeah yeah, I want TD's too. So how about a new idea - get behind them even when things are tough, and make them WANT to play for the fans. There is a point where encouragment makes you better.

____________________________

Exactly why doesn't a weekly paycheck in the 5-to-8 digit range make the players want to play hard. I have to pay for s h i t t y parking, overpriced (and warm) beer, and Johnny Rockets crap to eat, not to mention the most expensive limited view seats in the NFL.

Play hard-nosed, determined ball and I'll cheer all damn day. Play like a wuss; play like a dolt; or play like you can't even catch a cold (C. Rodgers), then I'll on board.

The good ol' days are gone, so make me forget them and create some new magic, because frankly I'm tired of watching D. Green videos on You Tube to fix my "jones."

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Posted by: itkonlyyou407 | November 29, 2010 10:04 PM | Report abuse

What a ridiculous statement. I was at the game on Sunday. The fans were rooting their guts out from start to finish, despite the futility on the field. This team doesn't deserve such support.

Posted by: JohninNW | November 29, 2010 10:04 PM | Report abuse

What a ridiculous statement. I was at the game on Sunday. The fans were rooting their guts out from start to finish, despite the futility on the field. This team doesn't deserve such support.

Posted by: JohninNW | November 29, 2010 10:05 PM | Report abuse

What a ridiculous statement. I was at the game on Sunday. The fans were rooting their guts out from start to finish, despite the futility on the field. This team doesn't deserve such support.

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Posted by: itkonlyyou407 | November 29, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse

What a ridiculous statement. I was at the game on Sunday. The fans were rooting their guts out from start to finish, despite the futility on the field. This team doesn't deserve such support.

Posted by: JohninNW | November 29, 2010 10:16 PM | Report abuse

It was a horrible day in NFL history when the Skins changed hands in ownership.

Danny boy is a money hungry fool, who has made this storied franchise a laughing stock ... bottom of the barrel.

Posted by: mi6-007 | November 29, 2010 10:21 PM | Report abuse

Yet another enlightening piece of "wisdom" from Carlos Rogers. FYI Carlos, the only thing the Redskins fans are guilty of is supporting this mediocre team season after season, hoping things will change. I stopped wasting my time last season and shifted my allegiances to another home team that's right in our backyard - The Baltimore Ravens. And no, I'm not a fairweather fan. I simply refuse to further expend my energies rooting for mediocrity.

Posted by: jameon | November 29, 2010 10:34 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins continue to play up to the football team management capability of Dan Snyder, which is well known as dismal. Nothing meaningful will change until the number of Redskin fans who have fired Dan Snyder grows large enough to put the Redskins organization into financial peril and concurrently slashes into the market value of the team.

How does one fire a team owner? The same way one fires an employee or contractor. Bottom line: No longer pay the person.
No longer pay Dan Snyder by ceasing to buy tickets to the games and also ceasing to watch the games on TV or listen to them on the radio (reduces the audience and in turn the ad revenues), and by not buying tickets to other events at Snyder's stadium and not buying tickets to enterprises in which Snyder is a known investor, e.g., 6 Flags and the sports network.

And, make your firing of Dan Snyder known widely and recruit others to fire Dan Snyder.

We can end the era of the dismal Redskin by successfully firing Dan Snyder. And any new owner will come to that position well aware of the commitment to the Redskin fans and their financial power to fire an owner when the owner continually seeks to fleece them at ever higher prices for a consistently inferior product, and so the new owner will act to earn the confidence of the Redskin fans.


Posted by: jimb | November 29, 2010 10:59 PM | Report abuse

Is it me or is Carlos oblivious to the fact that we suck at home!?!?....hence the booing.

Sure #22, we enjoy coming out and spending hundreds of dollars, and sitting in traffic to watch us lose to another 3-7 team. You really are as stupid as you sound.

Catch a flipp'n interception!!!!!

Posted by: beigebandit | November 29, 2010 11:36 PM | Report abuse

"Don't be a hater!"

Clearly not a season ticket holder.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | November 29, 2010 11:50 PM | Report abuse

Carlos Rodgers is the Rod Gardner of the skins defense....stupid and he can't catch. What a bum! Do something to make us cheer ...Dummy.

Posted by: beigebandit | November 29, 2010 11:58 PM | Report abuse

The reason is the fans are mad when they have to pay those ridiculous Danny prices.
Try and get tickets to the game up the road Sunday night and see how the fans are.
Of course, the team is a winner, unlike the Dannyskins.

Posted by: ftlmikeflorida | November 30, 2010 12:48 AM | Report abuse

I can't even believe he's that stupid. The only reason the fans are there are to support a crappy team.

Does he really expect the fans to cheer for them when they get scored on looking like high schoolers?

Carlos Rogers sucks and every year all we hear are excuses. Everyone says Carlos Rogers would be a top corner if he could catch. Well that is false his metrics are the worse out of Hall, Buchanon and his loser self.

Win some damn games then talk you scrub! He should never question the loyalty of Redskins fans, ever wondered how a team could be the 2nd most profitable franchise and sell out every game even after a 4-12 season?

Posted by: LovemyRedskins | November 30, 2010 1:57 AM | Report abuse

Tough Love's a B-TCH, ain't it Carlos??? Catch more INTs and maybe you won't be so hyper-sensitive about the fans. Hey, Stop giving up an average of 450 yards/game at home and maybe WE fans will show more respect. Respect the fans and maybe we'll return that favor. To call out the fans for your CRAPPY play, after it IS the fans who pay your ridiculous salary, is the sign and characteristic of a weak and insecure person. Good thing your a$$ is outta here after this year!!

"CATCH THE #@#@ BALL Carlos!"

Posted by: wagenstill | November 30, 2010 8:04 AM | Report abuse

The fan rant by Carlos illustrates just what is wrong with "professional" athletes today. A person becomes a professional by performing at a high level "without mistakes" and by doing his/her absolute best at whatever endeavor they undertake. I guess Carlos falls somewhat short if he includes regurlarly making mistakes as part of the package. While I could never affort more than to attend an occasional game (and most of those were at old RFK), I can assure Carlos that the fans are reacting in a negative manner because they care a great deal about how the team plays. At away games the fans are cheering for Carlos to make mistakes. That he confuses the two is a sad commentary.

Posted by: oldskinsfan1 | November 30, 2010 8:28 AM | Report abuse

Nothing like the cries of a whiny millionaire who's greatest claim to fame since being being drafted in the first round and playing with the Skins is...Consistently dropping pics! I can't tell you how many potential game changers those dropped pics might have led to, so thanks, you Stone-Handed dissapointment. Basically, I will not be shedding tears when the door hits Los in the rear on his way out.

Posted by: eello | November 30, 2010 12:15 PM | Report abuse

I don't know where to begin with Carlo's issues. The fans are fed up because they have to defend a sorry, no-account franchise year after year. There are so many holes in this team it will take another 2-3 years to plug them all. Our marketing whiz-kid owner needs to man-up and admit what the fans and league already know--the Redskins are in major rebuilding mode and will be for the foreseeable future. It's the only way we will be able to put together a winning organization that can achieve sustainable improvement.

Posted by: spp0501 | November 30, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

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