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Cartwright Convinced He Had Downed Ball

Tailback Rock Cartwright said that, after watching film of Sunday's game, he believes he had downed the ball before getting called for a touchback.

He was ruled to have been in the end zone when the ball struck him, so Dallas ended up at the 20 instead of the 1.

"I threw the ball back before I went into the end zone, then Khary Campbell kicked it back and it hit me in the butt," Cartwright said. "It could have been one of the turning points in the game, but I was just trying to make a play and I thought I had the ball downed."

By Cindy Boren  |  November 20, 2008; 12:21 PM ET
 
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That would make it FIRST and 10 from the 1...

Posted by: 4skinz | November 20, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

I know that ball should have ended up on the 1 yard line. But hey, this is what happens when you play against America's team.

Posted by: dspinx | November 20, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

The ball was rolling/bouncing dead at the 1 anyway......you should not have touched it at all!

Posted by: dlhaze1 | November 20, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

About Landry...

This may just be my own poor memory, however, when he does blitz...it seems like he is just short of getting there. I remember him last year blowing up the Jets QB...but that's it. (I think)

Blitzing is all fine and cool......IF you get there.

Posted by: cej75024 | November 20, 2008 11:24 AM | Report abuse

He blitzed last week on the mac interception. He casued it.

Posted by: Pleepleus | November 20, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Amen Dlhaze. That seems to have been overlooked in all that. The ball already came to rest by the time he got there, he had no business touching it at all!

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 20, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Now if there was a "man-of-all-time" award, surely it would go to one, none other than number 31, Rock Cartwright of the Washington Redskins.

*Everyone give 'em hand er'body*

*yay Rock* *we love you Rock* *Rock 3:16*

Not only first in MVP, Man of the Year, and the Lifetime Acheivement Award voting, but Rock is also first in our hearts.

We love you Rock, no really, we do...

*Ugh*

Posted by: RedDMV | November 20, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Piggybacking on what Haze said, Rock didn't have to dive on the ball at all. All he had to do was stop, pick it up and the play would have been over. He created the nightmare scenario by batting the ball forward, allowing Khary to kick it back into him while he was in the end zone. Everyone in my section was crying BS over the call, but the officials got it right.

Posted by: stwasm | November 20, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Love you, Rock, but you screwed up. Be the man that you are. Just say "I screwed up. I'll try not to do it again." Learn from your mistakes, and make a new mistake next time.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 20, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Worst. Challenge. Ever.

Posted by: Barno1 | November 20, 2008 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Like they say. Its a game of inches.

Posted by: Predator48 | November 20, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

No, it was one of the worst. Andy Reid tops the list of top 10 worst challanges. his name appears 8 times on the list.

Posted by: Pleepleus | November 20, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

It was a bad challenge and, worse, Cartwright should not have touched it. The ball wasn't going to bounce; it died.

Posted by: CindyBoren | November 20, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

The other two challanges are his also however instead of being listed as Andy Reid he was listed as The Walrus.

Posted by: Pleepleus | November 20, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Please. if rock would have not touched the ball and somehow the wind blew it and it touched the goaline we would be calling him an idiot for not diving and giving an effort.

dont be thursday morning QB's

Posted by: GreatOne1 | November 20, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

suz, from the previous post, I'd talk with a supervisor regarding that charge. Thats just crazy. 300 dollar charge on a 150 dollar ticket? Total crap. Fight that one til they give you some concessions.

I thought watching the game, and play against last night that they got the call wrong. Rock had possession, and hit the ground, so Madden said that technically he should have been down at that spot, which was roughly at the 1 yd line...whateves at this point, can't undue the past...

Posted by: BeantownGreg | November 20, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Leon Lett was also convinced he had downed the ball.

Posted by: SMACK1 | November 20, 2008 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Please. if rock would have not touched the ball and somehow the wind blew it and it touched the goaline we would be calling him an idiot for not diving and giving an effort.

dont be thursday morning QB's

Posted by: GreatOne1 | November 20, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

This might be the dumbest thing ever. Do you have any idea of the windspeed needed to blow a ball as a complete stop 2 yards flat on the ground? You are a Thursday afternoon asshat.

Posted by: Pleepleus | November 20, 2008 12:45 PM | Report abuse

He blitzed last week on the mac interception. He casued it.

Posted by: Pleepleus | November 20, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse


Really I was under the impression it was the Rogers hit that knocked it out of the receivers hands and up in the air.

Posted by: Gweez | November 20, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Yes, Suzanne, as a former employee of Continental myself, I'd suggest contacting their Customer Service department directly - skip the reservations supervisors and throw your frequent flyer weight around - typically, they can do something for you -

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | November 20, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Rock DID down it.

There were three calls that were just out to lunch on that game & handed DallSJK the win.

But I'm through with that - It's Thursday already, can we just leave last week alone?! Thanks WaPo for ruining my lunch.

Tiger - thanks for catching my double entendre hehehe. stuffffinngggg mmmmmm...

Posted by: DikShuttle | November 20, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

The ball was thrown early because landry hit romo within a second of the snap. He didn't cause it alone but he was essential to it.

Posted by: Pleepleus | November 20, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Hmmmm...is a Thursday afternoon asshat roughly equivilant to a Saturday morning asswipe?

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | November 20, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Guys Thursday isn't for game talk. Thursday is time to reminisce about what would have been if we had only kept Pierce. The other option is to question how good we could have been if we only had done our entire past 15 drafts differently and to come up with plans of future drafts since we all know so much.

Posted by: Pleepleus | November 20, 2008 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Hey - you "don't touch it" guys...

At game time speed there's no WAY you can tell if it's going to bounce or not.

He downed it. The refs blew the call. Nuff said.

CAN WE DROP IT PUHLEEEZE?

Posted by: DikShuttle | November 20, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

I think the ball should have been dead too.
He touched the ball on the one, then let it go. If the ball rolls to a stop all he has to do is touch the ball to down it and the ball is dead. How was this any different? Especially, since he rolled off of it before he went into the end zone.

I would understand the call if he touched it and his momentum carried him into the endzone with the ball in his control, but he let it go before that happened.

Can't change it, just saying.

Posted by: _Stumped_1 | November 20, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

I have to side with Cartwright on this one. I thought it was down as well. He touched the ball long before he went into the end zone. I thought it was a dead ball once someone from the kicking team touched it. I mean, when they have one of those punts where everyone from the kicking team huddles around the ball, then the play is dead when one of them touches it, right? Why would Cartwright's play be any different?

I think it is pretty cowardly of Al Michaels and John Madden to clam up about a play like that when they think the call was wrong as well. There were two times in the broadcast where I could tell they thought it was a bad call, and they totally changed the subject.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 20, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Peirce, who cares about Peirce after we let Leigh Torrence go?

Posted by: _Stumped_1 | November 20, 2008 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Oh & for whoever wanted a knee to belabor, how about that lineman/RB for tha Gints. I hear he may be out this week!

Go 'Zona!!

Posted by: DikShuttle | November 20, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

All Rock had to do was to either run up to it and lay a hand on it or to just run by it since it was not rolling anymore. Being the captain of the ST he should know better than to dive on a stopped ball at the 2 yard line. That was a huge play that COULD'VE turned some momentum in our fave. Kind of like the Carlos Rogers dropped pick-6 against Pitt.

Hate losing games on bone-headed plays.

Posted by: Alvin_Walton | November 20, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Leigh Torrence?! The REAL LT?!

Did I ever tell you about the time Torrence took me out to go get a drink with him? We go off looking for a bar and we can't find one. Finally Torrence takes me to a vacant lot and says, 'Here we are.' We sat there for a year and a half — until sure enough, someone constructs a bar around us. Well, the day they opened we ordered a shot, drank it, and then burned the place to the ground. Torrence yelled over the roar of the flames, 'Always leave things the way you found 'em!

Posted by: DikShuttle | November 20, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

An interesting little nugget from ESPN.com. Let's get back to pro bowl voting! It's working so far!

Redskins focused on Hawaii?

November 20, 2008 12:25 PM

Posted by ESPN.com's Matt Mosley

If you've attended a Redskins home game over the past couple of months, you're familiar with the club's aggressive "Vote the Redskins Ticket" Pro Bowl campaign. There are yard signs, bumper stickers, pins (worn by Redskins blogger Matt Terl) and life-sized pictures of Hall of Famers Sonny Jurgensen and Sam Huff. In fact, the campaign has worked so well that the Redskins would have 17 starters if voting ended today -- and coaches and players weren't allowed to vote.

Washington may have the worst punt-coverage unit in the NFL, but that hasn't stopped Ryan Plackemeier from vaulting to No. 1 in the polls. And with all the great defensive ends in the NFC, Andre Carter has made his way to No. 2. As of Nov. 18, here's a look at how NFC East players were doing in the fan voting:

Quarterbacks: 2. Eli Manning, Giants 3. Jason Campbell, Redskins 5. Donovan McNabb, Eagles

Running backs: 1. Clinton Portis, Redskins 3. Marion Barber, Cowboys. 5. Brandon Jacobs, Giants

Wide receivers: 1. Santana Moss, Redskins 4. Plaxico Burress, Giants

Fullbacks: 1. Mike Sellers, Redskins 2. Madison Hedgecock, Giants 3. Deon Anderson, Cowboys

Tight ends: 1. Chris Cooley, Redskins 2. Jason Witten, Cowboys 3. Kevin Boss, Giants

Centers: 1. Casey Rabach, Redskins 2. Shaun O'Hara, Giants 5. Andre Gurode, Cowboys

Guards: 1. Pete Kendall, Redskins 2. Randy Thomas, Redskins 3. Chris Snee, Giants 5. Leonard Davis, Cowboys

Tackles: 1. Chris Samuels, Redskins 2. Flozell Adams, Cowboys 3. David Diehl, Giants 4. Kareem McKenzie 5. Stephon Heyer, Redskins

Defensive ends: 1. Justin Tuck, Giants 2. Andre Carter, Redskins

Defensive tackles: 1. Cornelius Griffin, Redskins 2. Kedric Golston, Redskins 5. Fred Robbins, Giants

Outside linebackers: 1. DeMarcus Ware, Cowboys 2. Jason Taylor, Redskins 3. Marcus Washington, Redskins 4. Rocky McIntosh, Redskins

Inside linebackers: 1. London Fletcher, Redskins 3. Antonio Pierce, Giants 5. Zach Thomas, Cowboys

Cornerbacks: 1. Shawn Springs, Redskins 2. Carlos Rogers, Redskins 4. Asante Samuel, Eagles

Strong safety: 1. Chris Horton, Redskins 5. James Butler, Giants

Free safety: 1. LaRon Landry, Redskins 2. Brian Dawkins, Eagles 4. Michael Johnson, Giants 5. Ken Hamlin, Cowboys

Kickers: 1. Shaun Suisham, Redskins 2. John Carney, Giants 4. Nick Folk, Cowboys

Punters: 1. Ryan Plackemeier, Redskins 2. Jeff Feagles, Giants 5. Sav Rocca, Eagles

Kick returners: 1. Rock Cartwright, Redskins 4. Felix Jones, Cowboys 5. DeSean Jackson, Eagles

Special teamers: 1. Khary Campbell, Redskins 2. Chase Blackburn, Giants 4. Keith Davis, Cowboys

Posted by: psps23 | November 20, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Calls handed Dallas the win?

No thanks, I'll buy the other brand. The one that suggests that the 'Skins were inept on offense. They had two turnovers, but only scored on one. That cost them the game.

Leave the "blown call" crying to the NBA fans like me.

Posted by: RedDMV | November 20, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Do you have any idea of the windspeed needed to blow a ball as a complete stop 2 yards flat on the ground?

Posted by: Pleepleus | November 20, 2008 12:45 PM

He's referring to a tornado. Didn't you ever see Wizard of Oz? A tornado would have moved that ball over the District line, maybe even to the Cowardly Lions' stadium.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 20, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Ugh. Just had to pay the $600 to change the $460 tickets. Even though we are both snooty "Gold Elite" members, there was nothing they could do since I f'ed up. The thing that sucked is that even if we decided to cancel the trip - we would still be out $300 in a change fee for when we tried to use the money again. So much for my fun evening of finally getting to Restaurant Eve. Oh well...

The GOOD news is that I'll be at the Giants game (and still have a good job so I can pay these ridiculous fees/fare changes!)

Posted by: suzannepdc | November 20, 2008 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Wait there are 25 guys on that list? Damn.

Posted by: alex35332 | November 20, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Rock was running down field at game speed to keep the ball from rolling into the end zone.

It was easy for us sitting at home on the couch with a bird's eye view to see that the ball wasn't going in.

Does anyone really think that Rock, running down field in full speed in pads amongst all the other maniacal NFL players, had such a clear view?

It was a bad call, but the Skins didn't play well enough to win.

Adversity was too tough.

Posted by: _Stumped_1 | November 20, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: CindyBoren | November 20, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Sorry Red, I gotta disagree. I have no problem with calls going one way or the other. If my team commits a penalty, call it.

But bad calls ruin games - for any and every team. Sure, they happen, but in a game as tight as this, that call shot the wad of the Skins - that was all they had, field position. And this call gave that away. We never recovered.

I understand the "the team wins or looses it" attitude and DallSJK obviously gets the "W". But that call (and there were two others) was bad and it ruined the game for us.

I really did wan't to go into this. Great, now I'm back where I was Monday. This SUCKS!

Oh well - at least the wife is happy.

T#$%(TUIRI$%($$##IJI#($%(SJKING#(%*^&

Posted by: DikShuttle | November 20, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Rock needs to pick-up an NFL rulebook if he is convinced that he downed the ball. He had two very boneheaded plays on Sunday night, and that was one of them. The other was trying to field a Kickoff off his shoulder. He put the offense in a horrible situation with that crap.

Posted by: keino83 | November 20, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

bonehead...man up Rock, that was a dumbass play and we can't have that.

Now 59 yd returns...we can have those all day.

Keep swinging Rock but use your vet wisdom when needed.

Posted by: Ilikecougars | November 20, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

The ball was rolling/bouncing dead at the 1 anyway......you should not have touched it at all!

Posted by: dlhaze1 | November 20, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

That is exactly right! If the dude stayed medium he wouldn't have jumped on it like that squirrel from ice age jumping on the acorn.

Posted by: bangkokben | November 20, 2008 10:20 PM | Report abuse

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