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Casserly, Reid Analyze Ahead of Minicamp

There's not a lot on the ol' docket today, which should be fairly quiet ahead of the three-day minicamp that starts tomorrow at Redskins Park (and is NOT open to the public).

In addition to the grizzled veterans and draft picks, the team's undrafted free agents will be working out as well. If you want to know what life is like for an undrafted free agent and his agent, Les Carpenter has been following Dane Randolph of the University of Maryland as he tries to hook on with a team.

Charlie Casserly and O.V.O. (our very own) Jason Reid analyze the Redskins' draft performance.

Lastly, what's Chase Daniel up to, you ask? (Well, you didn't, but since he shared via twitter (@chasedaniel), I'll pass it the details of his day and trip to DC along:

Early flight! Just had egg whites with mushrooms, chicken, and spinach with half of a bagel...got to continue the diet

Flight running a bit late but nothing can ruin this day! Wearing a red lacoste shirt with a Redskins hat in Cowboy territory

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Florio's blog had a link to a story by a beat reporter in Buffalo ... obviously, the Buffalo reporter must be deluded and should move to the next town up 95 from DC:

"• Ozzie Newsome was a Hall of Fame player. His talent evaluation skills are just as legendary. The Baltimore Ravens’ general manager almost never misses in the first round (see Jonathan Ogden, Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, Peter Boulware and Chris McAllister). So count on Newsome’s latest gem, Mississippi offensive tackle Michael Oher, becoming a future Pro Bowler."

Posted by: dcsween | April 30, 2009 10:19 AM | Report abuse

Wow...

Real news...

Go figure. Good read!

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/apr/30/williams-certain-his-comeback-is-worth-the-weight/

Talk about a chance in a moment...

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 30, 2009 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Mr. Casserly, per Chrissie Hynne, there's a thin line between love and hate.

Mr. WaPo video editor, I get seasick around 4:15 and, for some reason, a little distracted around 5:30.

Posted by: dcsween | April 30, 2009 10:28 AM | Report abuse

"I agree with you on prematurely judging people. But you didnt need to reference Sean Taylor to make that point. The fact that you did, IMO reveals something about your character. And I never suggested he was a Saint. Im simply saying that there is no need to go that route in trying to make a point.

Moving on . . . . .

Posted by: VaTerp1"

Honestly seems your being too touchy with it.

And great move to take a shot "shows something about your character" and then say "Moving on....".

I guess you're into judging people, too. I'll go ahead and judge you as a pompous, holier than thou ***hat along with that other guy. Can we never reference Sean Taylor unless we are speaking about what a great safety he was? It's a very relevant point that we as a fanbase were quick to forgive him for the things he did, and we never thought twice about it. Just like Ravens fans have forgiven Ray Lewis for the stuff he did. Just like we'll forgive Haynesworth for what he did, ruining a person's life.

The point is people make mistakes and can triumph over them and prove that their mistakes don't define them as people. Sean Taylor is a GREAT example of this, because he was an awesome person who made mistakes. None of this was ever an insult to him, it was praising him you idiot.

Posted by: TheTruth11

Posted by: TheTruth11 | April 30, 2009 10:30 AM | Report abuse

Worst Fifth Round Pick

Cody Glenn, OLB, Nebraska (Washington Redskins)

The selection of Cody Glenn was mystifying. He’s a former running back who switched to OLB this past season. He’s been injured during his career and had limited production last year, before being suspended for violating team rules. The Redskins needed help at linebacker, and I’m sure they would have selected Ohio State’s Marcus Freeman if he were available. But passing on Jamon Meredith, who would have added depth on the Redskins offensive line, and reaching for a player
that has character and injury concerns doesn’t make sense.
http://profootball.scout.com/2/860780.html

Posted by: ga8085 | April 30, 2009 10:30 AM | Report abuse

My daughter could do a better job creating a video, spend some money you cheap b@stards.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 30, 2009 10:39 AM | Report abuse

ga,

Unless you have a time machine, there is no way to change it so move on.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 30, 2009 10:41 AM | Report abuse

ga8085, that link doesn't say the whole story. Marcus Freeman WAS available at #150 I believe it was, and we traded back to #158 and Minnesota selected Freeman with #150.

When we traded back, all we got was the 7th rounder we sent to Minnesota for Erasmus James.

So we screwed ourselves back in preseason with that one.

Freeman was the pick to make at #150 if we were gonna go with OLB. After we traded back 8 spots and he got taken, we should've just went with Meredith, Robinson, or Big Herman Johnson.

I think we wanted to trade back and still get Freeman, but Vikes pulled one on us.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | April 30, 2009 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Freeman was the pick to make at #150 if we were gonna go with OLB. After we traded back 8 spots and he got taken, we should've just went with Meredith, Robinson, or Big Herman Johnson.

I think we wanted to trade back and still get Freeman, but Vikes pulled one on us.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | April 30, 2009 10:41 AM


So, how deep was your draft board on needs of said team?

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 30, 2009 10:43 AM | Report abuse

dcsween

'...So count on Newsome’s latest gem, Mississippi offensive tackle Michael Oher, becoming a future Pro Bowler....'


This hurts.

It's like watching your wife do porn and getting turned on by her performance with another guy.

And he's bigger than you in more ways than one.

I know we could've had Oher, but to quote former Hoya Reggie Williams, "Damn!!"

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 30, 2009 10:45 AM | Report abuse

What are you asking me 4th?

Player by player or position wise? Position wise I would've said take best available in first. Orakpo, while I'm not sold on him at all, I think was a pick we had to make. If not him, then Oher, but I think there's a reason Oher slid. I hope the best for him but I'm not so sure anymore.

Third round I was hoping for OL, Duke Robinson specifically, but it seems the teams knew a lot more about him than the media was given us, which is fine. So that Barnes kid, I'm fine with, although DJ Moore out of Vanderbilt might end up being a better CB and he got drafted in the 5th or 6th.

But when we're at #150 in the 5th round and we still have OLB Marcus Freeman, G Duke Robinson, G Herman Johnson, and OT Jamon Meredith, that was a blessing to have any of those OL available. Then we trade back, I'm fine with that at the time because I think one if not all of those guys will drop.

Freeman is taken at #150, okay not bad we still got the OL guys, and really those were the guys I was wanting. Freeman wasn't standing out for me there, even though he's a solid OLB. I'm thinking OL is the spot where need meets talent on the big board.

But then to draft Glenn at #158, ouch. Bad, bad pick. I would've preferred one of the three OL mentioned here, and then we draft the OLB from TCU with the next pick just like we did. And I know it's not fair to say in hindsight, but OL was too obvious. The OLB from TCU should've been taking at #158 over this Glenn guy. I'm not hating on Glenn, I don't care about his "character issues". But he wasn't the pick there.

Is that what you were asking? Not being a butt, just not sure.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | April 30, 2009 10:50 AM | Report abuse

You and Sweeny hung up on Oher? He didn't merit a top 20 pick and the NFL agreed with my BOLD (Cl) prediction......

You are not supposed to reach, and that would be a reach beyond reaches....

Don't get sad, get glad....

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 30, 2009 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Truth - I was basically saying, you haven't scouted everyone. You only read news reports like us. The scouts know more than any of us, save for the Bengals......

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 30, 2009 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Freeman was the pick to make at #150 if we were gonna go with OLB. After we traded back 8 spots and he got taken, we should've just went with Meredith, Robinson, or Big Herman Johnson.

I think we wanted to trade back and still get Freeman, but Vikes pulled one on us.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | April 30, 2009 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Exactly. Freeman would of been the perfect pick there, but the Skins ended up screwing themselves twice by trading back, there by missing on Freeman and then ignoring a legitimate OT in Meridith when he was available. It seems the FO makes what should be simple moves into impossible situations.

Posted by: ga8085 | April 30, 2009 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Apparently, Freeman wasn't on Vinny's draft board. He was there @ 150 and Vinny didn't want him.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 30, 2009 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Apparently, Freeman wasn't on Vinny's draft board. He was there @ 150 and Vinny didn't want him.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 30, 2009 10:57 AM | Report abuse

And I guess Meridith, Robinson, and Johnson weren't either. But Glenn was? It makes you wonder what he considers talent and value. Kind of scary..

Posted by: ga8085 | April 30, 2009 11:00 AM | Report abuse

The scouts know more than any of us, save for the Bengals......

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 30, 2009 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Good one - when do we start staffing the Bengals scouting department from the ranks of RI?

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | April 30, 2009 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Who was running the camera on this video? Are they hiring guys off the grates now?

Posted by: SkinsfaninPeru | April 30, 2009 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Next year comes down to the Three Second Rounders - Cocky, Sleepy, and Gimpy.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | April 30, 2009 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Traiining camp is going to be crazy tomorrow. All the guys being back and getting their football legs back unded them. I know some of the guys will be a little out of shape, but we have time to fix that. I really want to see Orako and our 3rd round pick Barnes. I wish that we had a lock for our strong side linebacker, so that Orakpo could just focus on rushing the passer. Well, I guess those guys will battle for that spot. I hope Smoot doesn't let that rookie take his third corner back spot. The RT position is going to be a battle to with Williams, Heyer, and Jansen all fighting. I wish Cambell the best this year because he knows that the FO doesn't believe in him. GO SKINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: louloudekdek1 | April 30, 2009 11:09 AM | Report abuse

Bengals picked up Andre Smith and Maualuga, both of the players i wanted the skins to get. Grated they had the picks to get them and they may possibly be thuggish, but still i wouldnt put danny boy and vinny below anyone else in ability to F-up.

Posted by: Stu27 | April 30, 2009 11:09 AM | Report abuse

Also, another reason to join the Church of Chase - The Truth eats an egg white omelet everyday, except The Truth puts tomatoes and spinach on his. The Truth might look to mushrooms though, sounds good.


And why isn't JaLaCa beating the Khary Campbell drum yet? He seems to be a perfect fit into the Leigh Torrence/Marcus Mason category from last year.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | April 30, 2009 11:14 AM | Report abuse

" I hope Smoot doesn't let that rookie take his third corner back spot. The RT position is going to be a battle to with Williams, Heyer, and Jansen all fighting. I wish Cambell the best this year because he knows that the FO doesn't believe in him. GO SKINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: louloudekdek1 "

I don't mean to slight Smoot, but I hope Barnes does take his spot. We know what we got in Smoot, and if Barnes is better than him, that makes our CB corps one of the deeper ones in the league. Right now we're probably top 10, top 15 in the league. If Barnes turns into a very good player year one, then we're talking top 5. Put that alongside a much improved DL and really a linebacker squad that isn't gonna regress too much, and we're top 2 or 3 D in the league pretty easiley.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | April 30, 2009 11:17 AM | Report abuse

stu27

'...Bengals picked up Andre Smith and Maualuga, both of the players i wanted the skins to get. Grated they had the picks to get them and they may possibly be thuggish...'


Increasingly, it looks like a team is better off loading up on round 2 and 3 picks.

The pats wheeled and dealed themselves in two 2nd round picks for next year.

The 1st rounders are expensive, and if they are busts, it kills the sal cap. Teams are more willing to take a 2nd rounder and flip the pick into multiple lower round picks.

BTW: Who did the fins take with what would have been our 2nd rounder but for the Jason Taylor fiasco?

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 30, 2009 11:20 AM | Report abuse

One thing is for sure about Barnes. No way in hell could he cover the slot or down a punt quite like Leigh Torrence.

Posted by: Posse81_83_84 | April 30, 2009 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Hand wringing over the draft picks at this point is nuts, in particular the late round ones. According to their bios on nfl.com they sound like they have potential and would fill a need if they pan out. Yeah they need Olinemen blame the FO for giving up their 2nd and 4th rounders then. Blasting them for not taking a 5th -7th round Olineman seems like a waste of time. Personally I can't wait to see Orakpo lined up next to Haynesworth. Just imagine the 4th ranked defense actually putting pressure on the QB for once.

Posted by: skinswest | April 30, 2009 11:23 AM | Report abuse

"Right now we're probably top 10, top 15 in the league."

There isn't a CB depth chart in the league that matches the Redskins right now. Last season, I would have said Philly was close, but not this season.

And if you add the entire secondary to that (safeties included), this team is #1, bar none. The secondary is the single-most important aspect of this defense reaching the #4 ranking last season.

Posted by: psps23 | April 30, 2009 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Mista,

They got Pat White out of WVU.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 30, 2009 11:24 AM | Report abuse

BTW: Who did the fins take with what would have been our 2nd rounder but for the Jason Taylor fiasco?

Pat White

Posted by: Yoder-lay-hee-who | April 30, 2009 11:27 AM | Report abuse

"Hand wringing over the draft picks at this point is nuts, in particular the late round ones. According to their bios on nfl.com they sound like they have potential and would fill a need if they pan out. Yeah they need Olinemen blame the FO for giving up their 2nd and 4th rounders then. Blasting them for not taking a 5th -7th round Olineman seems like a waste of time. Personally I can't wait to see Orakpo lined up next to Haynesworth. Just imagine the 4th ranked defense actually putting pressure on the QB for once.

Posted by: skinswest "

Well the thing is, Duke Robinson was viewed as a legitimate 2nd/3rd rounder by a lot, until (apparently) people starting questioning his motivation.

I'll tell you what, you give me an unmotivated 2nd/3rd round talent in the 5th round and I'll turn him into a guy motivated by money, just like every other player in the league. Unmotivated in college doesn't = unmotivated in the NFL. Sure it's something to worry about, but you make that pick with a late rounder, especially if it fills a need.

And the 5th-7th rounds are just as important as the 1st through 4th rounds.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | April 30, 2009 11:28 AM | Report abuse

for those that can watch the video, what did casserly have to say??

Posted by: BeantownGreg | April 30, 2009 11:29 AM | Report abuse

And why isn't JaLaCa beating the Khary Campbell drum yet? He seems to be a perfect fit into the Leigh Torrence/Marcus Mason category from last year.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | April 30, 2009 11:14 AM

He wasn't a 'source', so it doesn't matter to him.......

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 30, 2009 11:32 AM | Report abuse

And great move to take a shot "shows something about your character" and then say "Moving on....".

I guess you're into judging people, too. I'll go ahead and judge you as a pompous, holier than thou ***hat along with that other guy. Can we never reference Sean Taylor unless we are speaking about what a great safety he was? It's a very relevant point that we as a fanbase were quick to forgive him for the things he did, and we never thought twice about it. Just like Ravens fans have forgiven Ray Lewis for the stuff he did. Just like we'll forgive Haynesworth for what he did, ruining a person's life.

The point is people make mistakes and can triumph over them and prove that their mistakes don't define them as people. Sean Taylor is a GREAT example of this, because he was an awesome person who made mistakes. None of this was ever an insult to him, it was praising him you idiot."

Posted by: TheTruth11

I didnt take a shot at you. I stated that the fact that you had to bring up a young man who tragically lost his life to support your argument revealed something to me about your character. And, I am touchy when it comes to Sean Taylor. Mainly because of all of the garbage I read on the internet after his passing.

So I probably did read too much into what you said or took it the wrong way but so be it. I said moving on because this conversation really adds nothing to this forum. Thanks for the idiot comment though. It was very hurtful.

Posted by: VaTerp1 | April 30, 2009 11:35 AM | Report abuse

who is khary campbell upset with.

32 nfl teams have deemed him not worthy....head up to Canada and ply your wares there....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | April 30, 2009 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Just an FYI for anyone who isn't familiar with the potential uncapped year and it's limitations...

This is from ESPN--

"the owners dropped some poison pills into the current CBA, making that uncapped season tougher for players, or win-now owners, to swallow. An uncapped year would mean players must have six years of service to become unrestricted free agents, rather than four. Teams could tag two players instead of just one. And in the uncapped year, the best teams won't be serious bidders; all playoff teams would be restricted from signing the UFAs, and the final four NFL playoff squads could sign a free agent only if they lost one."

Posted by: BigE44 | April 30, 2009 11:37 AM | Report abuse

"There isn't a CB depth chart in the league that matches the Redskins right now. Last season, I would have said Philly was close, but not this season.

And if you add the entire secondary to that (safeties included), this team is #1, bar none. The secondary is the single-most important aspect of this defense reaching the #4 ranking last season."

I think Philly's CBs compete with ours especially if they keep Brown. But Samuels, Hobbs, and the kid from Wisconsin if he is healthy along with Macho gives them pretty good depth.

Agree though that overall, our secondary is one of the best in the league and has the potential to be THE best.

Posted by: VaTerp1 | April 30, 2009 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Sorry VaTerp, but you read a comment the wrong way, took it the wrong way, and decided to judge me as a person as a result.

So I decided I would judge you for judging me. It is pretty lame when people do that, huh? Shouldn't have thrown the first stone then I guess.

Next time how 'bout not reading the worst into everything and laying off the hypocrisy.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | April 30, 2009 11:43 AM | Report abuse

'...They got Pat White out of WVU...'


They--the fins--have Pat Wite and Chadd Henne.

Lucky.

Henne is good. But for Pennington, he'd be the starter in dolphins-land.

White should be given the chance to play quarterback. The guy isn't a Seneca Wallace/Tim Tebow/Andre Ware type. He can throw, run, and pass very accurately.


Posted by: MistaMoe | April 30, 2009 11:45 AM | Report abuse

I'm so excited about our defense, but casserly's statement "they won't get better they'll just get older" scares the crap out of me.

Posted by: redskinsfanatic1 | April 30, 2009 11:45 AM | Report abuse

BTW: Who did the fins take with what would have been our 2nd rounder but for the Jason Taylor fiasco?

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 30, 2009 11:20 AM | Report abuse

The next best thing in Wildcat Pat White, they just released John Beck their QB draft choice from last year to give him room to compete as the starter against Pennington and now Henne from Mich, he will be seeing good playing time their in whatever compacity a great pickup for them at our expense.

Posted by: Stu27 | April 30, 2009 11:46 AM | Report abuse

BTW: Who did the fins take with what would have been our 2nd rounder but for the Jason Taylor fiasco?

Posted by: MistaMoe

I believe that pick was for super-wildcat QB Pat White.

Posted by: Predator48 | April 30, 2009 11:47 AM | Report abuse

wasn't beck a 2nd round pick, and pretty recently too...

Posted by: BeantownGreg | April 30, 2009 11:48 AM | Report abuse

'...what did casserly have to say??'

Casserly said something about the redskins needing a gm, the owner being a putz, and that he posts in RI under the name of sports_guru: NOT!!!!!

Okay, he did say the stuff about the owner.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 30, 2009 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Mr. Casserly, per Chrissie Hynne, there's a thin line between love and hate.

Mr. WaPo video editor, I get seasick around 4:15 and, for some reason, a little distracted around 5:30.

Posted by: dcsween

I thought the cameraman was drunk. If that's an intentional choice, whoever was directing that "show" belongs in another line of work, like boat repair.

I know he's trying to be hip to appeal to the kids and has written his own script to Cloverfield 2, but dude, there's a time and a palce for everything. Practice on your own time.

Posted by: TheCork | April 30, 2009 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Casserly = Steve Phillips. Former GM's who want to be back in the game so badly they pretend while they are on tv. If they knew everything they'd be working in the leagues rather than analyzing them.

Posted by: Posse81_83_84 | April 30, 2009 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Methinks Casserly is still a little bitter...

Posted by: dlhaze1 | April 30, 2009 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Yeh they got Beck last year, shows how real they are about letting pat play the position he always had.
I would not be suprised to see some crazy sh!t from some of their formations next year, putting a guy that can throw as well as pennington and run as well as Ronnie on that team will do wonders for that scheme.

Posted by: Stu27 | April 30, 2009 11:55 AM | Report abuse

They cut John Beck.

Beck and Ted Ginn were apart of the Cam Cameron regime's last--and only draft.

The fins are on the 'AFC Team's to Lookout' for next year.

Nobody ever mentions it, but the dumbest act in the league last year was the jets cutting Pennington only to see him go to a division rival and play well.

dumbest move: pick'em

Pennington getting released by the jets.

Bronk-Hoes trading Cutler.

Skins panicking and trading picks for J Taylor.


Me?: The jets should've held on to Pennington or tried to trade him out of the AFC.

But the redskins fan in me knows that if the jets had Chad Pennington, they don't draft sanchez, and guess who he'd be playing for this season?

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 30, 2009 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Wow...

Real news...

Go figure. Good read!

http://www.washingtontimes.

Talk about a chance in a moment...

Posted by: 4thFloor

"Chance in a moment?" You're joking, right? Apparently 4th, you've never fought the battle of the bulge. There's more recidivism in dieting than in the three strikes wing at Ossining.

Williams determination will last until he spots his first Cruller. Or gets put on his butt by Haynesworth.

Dude was at 454, when the skins got interested. Three and a half years since he played? Back surgery? Bad ankles? Nice scouting department. With a resume like that, he could have been a Redskins draft choice,.

4th, do the Moonies pay you every time you link over to their paper with a breathless endorsement of whatever crud they carry? You DO know that paper's owned by a cult, right?

How's the sports department at Scientology Today?


Posted by: TheCork | April 30, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

The Cody Glenn pick was a head scratcher. At first, I was not a huge fan of the Kevin Barnes selection, but he's good enough to warrant the selection. To me, there is no need to draft Glenn there when he might have gone undrafted. And, while our scouting department did not like any of the O Lineman in the draft, I am willing to be that some of the teams who drafted one rounds 3-7 will get a player capable of playing for a long time.

Posted by: MadeRED | April 30, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

chase cut out the bread and mushrooms, too.

ha....

rookie mistake.

Orakpo best pass rusher in the draft and can play SAM......................YES!

Heyer starting RT. Dockery is an upgrade healthwise.

Samuels -Dockery-Rabach -Thomas -Heyer
M. Williams-Batiste -Williams-Reinhart-Jansen
Montgomery Clark -Burley
Riley Ross

hmmm.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | April 30, 2009 12:01 PM | Report abuse

My daughter could do a better job creating a video, spend some money you cheap b@stards.

Posted by: Flounder21

Wataya mean? They bought the cameraman his jug of Thunderbird didn't they?

Posted by: TheCork | April 30, 2009 12:02 PM | Report abuse

This hurts.

It's like watching your wife do porn and getting turned on by her performance with another guy.

And he's bigger than you in more ways than one.

Posted by: MistaMoe |

Spoken like someone who's been there. First of all, Moe, my condolences. Second, is your wife's performance available on DVD yet, by chance?

Posted by: TheCork | April 30, 2009 12:05 PM | Report abuse

"Ozzie Newsome was a Hall of Fame player. His talent evaluation skills are just as legendary. The Baltimore Ravens’ general manager almost never misses in the first round (see Jonathan Ogden, Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, Peter Boulware and Chris McAllister). So count on Newsome’s latest gem, Mississippi offensive tackle Michael Oher, becoming a future Pro Bowler."


Yes and no. Ozzie's had great success, particularly at certain positions. His top choices have generally worked out since he became GM in 2003. They are: Terrell Suggs and Kyle Boller, Dwan Edwards (2nd rounder), Mark Clayton, Ngota, Grubbs, and Flacco. Of that group, only Edwards and Boller could be called unsuccessful.

The Steelers have done even better, until Rashard Mendenhall got hurt in 08, that is. They're choices over the same period have been Polamalu, Big Ben, Heath Miller, Santonio Holmes, and Lawrence Timmons.

The Browns have been more erratic. Joe Thomas is a huge hit, and Kamerion Wimbley is well thought of, and I leave it up to you what to make of Braylon Edwards. Kellen Winslow at least had some trade value, and Jeff Faine is solid.

The Bengals started off strong with Carson Palmer and last year's pick, Keith Rivers, looks like a keeper. David Pollack got hurt and Chris Perry got cut. Johathon Joseph was playing well up til this past season and Leon Hall shows signs of developing.

But outside the first round, looks to me like Ozzie makes about as many errors as most good teams. Fifty percent, that's about the success rate.


Posted by: Samson151 | April 30, 2009 12:07 PM | Report abuse

I know many of you are probably already aware of some of these crazy-dumb city & state laws that exist.

If you get some spare time scroll though some of these - I'll post the ones for the DMV (DC, MD, VA)

DC: It is illegal for small boys to throw stones.

MD: State law prohibits lions from attending the theatre.

Baltimore - it is illegal to throw a bale of hay from a second floor
window.

VA: It is illegal to visit a cemetery for any other reason than visiting the
deceased.

It is against the law to have a bathtub inside your home.
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I doubt if some of these "laws" are still in effect.

Posted by: RedDMV | April 30, 2009 12:07 PM | Report abuse

Sorry folks but Belichik will squash the Wildcat formation the first time they play Miami next year and it will never be used again after this year.

One year wonder.

Fool Belicheat once, shame on you, fool him twice, shame on him, you won't fool him three times.

Patriots 38, Goldfish 10 in round 1
Patriots 41, Goldfish 6 in round 2


Seriously though, he will expose it this year and it'll start to decline in use just as quick as it rose to use.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | April 30, 2009 12:10 PM | Report abuse

We know RedDMV obeys the law about no bathtubs.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | April 30, 2009 12:11 PM | Report abuse


"There isn't a CB depth chart in the league that matches the Redskins right now....

Agree though that overall, our secondary is one of the best in the league and has the potential to be THE best.

Posted by: VaTerp1

I know it's been hot back East lately, but how much Kool-aide have you drunk?

Here's a question. Third and eight. Opponent goes four wide. Who covers the slot guys? A safety? Tryon? The deteriorating fred Smoot? The rookie from Md? The ghost of Leigh Torrence?

And what if a CB goes down? You start Smoot? Opponents may not catch a ball what with all the drool on their hands.

Posted by: TheCork | April 30, 2009 12:17 PM | Report abuse

"Casserly = Steve Phillips. Former GM's who want to be back in the game so badly they pretend while they are on tv. If they knew everything they'd be working in the leagues rather than analyzing them."

Posted by: Posse81_83_84

Say what you want about Casserly but his record speaks for itself. He played a part in building 4 Super Bowl teams, pulled off perhaps the best draft day trade in NFL history, and his last move as a GM (taking Mario over Reggie) was highly criticized at the time but now looks pretty damn good.

Id take Charley back in a second over Danny boy and one eyed Vinny. He has the resume and the right to call out Snyderatto for their imcompotence.

Posted by: VaTerp1 | April 30, 2009 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Uh, I started to get motion sickness from watching that. Had to stop watching and listen. Tell the cameraman to stop drinking before work.

Posted by: chill | April 30, 2009 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Khary Campell is gone....

Backup linebacker Khary Campbell said Wednesday he won't return for a fifth season with the Washington Redskins after he rejected a minimum-salary deal. Campbell said he's negotiating with other teams but added it's not just about the money. The Redskins' top special teams tackler the past three years said he feels disrespected. "That wasn't something I was going to accept," the 30-year-old said. "And they drafted two linebackers. They did what they had to do, and I'm going to do what I have to do."

Posted by: BostonWarPath | April 30, 2009 12:20 PM | Report abuse

I know some of the guys will be a little out of shape, but we have time to fix that.--Louloudekdek

Yes Thomas and Kelly will have time to get REALLY out of shape by training camp

Posted by: TheCork | April 30, 2009 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Cork, the first part of what you are quoting me as saying wasnt by me.

But I do think the Skins have one of the best secondaries in the league AND IF Rogers and Hall play up to their potential, if Smoot/ Barnes or somebody else emerges as a good nickle guy, and if Landry and Horton continue to develop then yes, we would have one of, if not the, best secondaries in the league.

A lot of ifs but none of them are out of the question. The biggest concern is the nickle spot but I think Smoot could bounce back and have a decent year or one of the young guys could emerge. But its all relative. Show me a secondary in this league that has a great nickle guy or so much depth that they would be that great if one of the starters went down.

And if we can actually generate a pass rush this year then the secondary becomes that much better. Thats the real key along with the health factor.

LMAO about the drool and the ghost of Leigh Torrence though.

Posted by: VaTerp1 | April 30, 2009 12:27 PM | Report abuse

I think Timmy from South Park was working the camera.

Posted by: virtueandvice | April 30, 2009 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Well the thing is, Duke Robinson was viewed as a legitimate 2nd/3rd rounder by a lot, until (apparently) people starting questioning his motivation.

I'll tell you what, you give me an unmotivated 2nd/3rd round talent in the 5th round and I'll turn him into a guy motivated by money, just like every other player in the league. Unmotivated in college doesn't = unmotivated in the NFL. Sure it's something to worry about, but you make that pick with a late rounder, especially if it fills a need.

And the 5th-7th rounds are just as important as the 1st through 4th rounds.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | April 30, 2009 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Yes the 5th-7th rounds are important but they are also picks that have a lower percentage of making it. I'd rather they hit on those than gamble on an Oline need and miss. Now if the LBs, WR and TE suck then they should be criticized. I was curious about Duke Robinson on the second day as well but it wasn't just the skins passing on him.

Posted by: skinswest | April 30, 2009 12:31 PM | Report abuse

chase daniel sounds like a tool

Posted by: graham29 | April 30, 2009 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Yes, but we also know that Truth strongly supports the Boston law (is this true Bean?), that you can't take more than two baths a month.

You stank boy!

Posted by: RedDMV | April 30, 2009 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Boston - it is against the law to take more than 2 baths a month.

Lots, and lots of deodorant, and cologne....thats my story and I'm sticking to it.

Posted by: BeantownGreg | April 30, 2009 12:38 PM | Report abuse

'...is your wife's performance available on DVD yet, by chance?'


My wife?

Porn?

DVD?

She's a lawyer, my wife.

She's starring in a little adult cinematic piece entitled, "Death Row Hoe." It's on the net.

Ya gotta go through paypal to see it, but it's pretty good.

It's the sequel to "Prenup Nookie" and was followed by "Oral Argument 8."

Then there's "Bang My Gavel" and "Brazil Barristers 4".

Those two are my favorites.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 30, 2009 12:38 PM | Report abuse

On offense, the Skins have very few guys who are still in the 'improving phase' of their careers and most are backups. Thomas and Kelly at WR. Davis at TE. Heyer, who is a marginal starter at best. Reinhart, who wasn't allowed to wear a game day uni. And Campbell.

The rest, which includes 10 of our 11 offensive starters, have either reached their peak or are on the decline. Most notably 4/5 OL starters are in decline -- which is why Vinny needed to address that. Historically, plenty of good OL get picked late in the draft. Why Vinny was unwilling to take small risks to fix a major problem -- that's what I don't get.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 30, 2009 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Moe be lunchin'...

Posted by: RedDMV | April 30, 2009 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Who cares what J-Reid thinks anyway? Since when did beat reporters become qualified any more than some random dude off the street to evaluate talent? Just because your shaped like a football doesn't mean you know football. I trust Casserly and other evaluators who actually have a proven track record and know what they're talking about.

Posted by: CPortisRun | April 30, 2009 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Seriously though, he will expose it this year and it'll start to decline in use just as quick as it rose to use.

Posted by: TheTruth11 |

The Pats should beat the fish due to the fact they have better players. But adding Pat White means a viable passing element has been added to the so-called "Wildcat" formation.

What it means is the strong safety can no longer cheat against the run, which was by and large how it was stopped last year. Now he has to play honest. With a scat back like White, that will give him the crease he needs to go the distance. It really becomes more like the spread formation , only with better blocking at the point.

And white's a helluva passer.

The skins might consider using Daniels that way, if he makes the team, of course he isnt' the run threat White is.

Posted by: TheCork | April 30, 2009 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Smoot not worried

On Sunday, third-round draft choice Kevin Barnes said fellow cornerback Fred Smoot was "getting a little bit older." Smoot, 30, responded to Barnes on Wednesday.

"They come in like that until they go to three days of [minicamp], and [then] they humble," Smoot said. "It don't bother me. I'm going to take him through some things. I haven't seen the guy. I don't even know his name, and I love football, so that tells you [something]. I know who's going to get drafted where. I didn't know the kid."

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | April 30, 2009 12:47 PM | Report abuse

A lot of ifs but none of them are out of the question.

VaTerp1

On this we agree. I like the Barnes kid but wonder if he can stay on the field. He needs to hang with Daniels and muscle up. He's almost 6'1" and listed at about 182. He sells out with every hit, but that can get you killed with the big boys.


Posted by: TheCork | April 30, 2009 12:49 PM | Report abuse

My grandmother told me that back in her time they used potato skins and peelings to mask the odor from the armpits...

They somehow attached the potato skin or peel onto their underarm.

I have no idea what smell it produced, or have no idea how it stayed there... scotch tape? glue? held their elbows at their sides?

Posted by: RedDMV | April 30, 2009 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Since Jasno has NO intention of doing his job!!

Here is what I can find on our UDFAs

Lets start with the Tight End Robert Agnone

College: Deleware
Position: TE

Height: 6'6 Weight: 256

Agnone lettered in Basketball and Football in High School (as a QB)

After turning down scholarship offers to play basketball... Agnone converted to Tight End. Tight ends coach Greg Gattuso said. "He already is a very capable receiver and is working hard on his blocking skills. He is continually improving in his understanding of the position and that will allow him to help us."

Robert Agnone is a big target at 6-6 and 256 pounds. He caught 16 passes for 161 yards and two touchdowns in his senior season at Delaware

* He missed 3 games his Senior year-

His best numbers were his Junior year at Deleware in which he caught 38 Receptions for 484 yards AVG 12.7 per and 4 TD's

Sidenote he also worked at the QB position during practices

Posted by: BenchCampbell | April 30, 2009 12:53 PM | Report abuse

red, thanks for the tip....headed out to get some potatoes now.....I'm going to try some 'gorilla glue' or, 'liquid nails'....I'll report back....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | April 30, 2009 12:54 PM | Report abuse

The rest, which includes 10 of our 11 offensive starters, have either reached their peak or are on the decline. Most notably 4/5 OL starters are in decline -- which is why Vinny needed to address that--Zsczest1 (or whatever)

I save the draft and season preview mags and was thumbing thru one going into the 2006 season.

Except for Yoder replacing Fauria, and Thrash replacing Lloyd and campbell for Brunell, it's the same projected offensive lineup as this year's projected starters.

So your point is well made.


Posted by: TheCork | April 30, 2009 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Parcells & the Phish may well be beginning the return of Run Dominant teams which we were declaring dead just yesterday...

Pretty f'n kewel, but yet to be seen what kind of success it could actually generate...

Posted by: DikShuttle | April 30, 2009 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Z - I believe Buges one major concern for Heyer is keeping his arse lower. If Heyer worked on that this offseason, he could be a valuable starter in both aspects of the game (run blocking and pass protection). Also, if that is true, then the FO might have done well on their gamble at that spot, especially if Mike Gordo Williams turns out to have any sort of skill/athletic ability whatsoever. I'm sure his skills haven't declined totally, but not practicing them for 3+ years can't be good.

Posted by: JesusFreakKaren | April 30, 2009 12:58 PM | Report abuse

"And what if a CB goes down? You start Smoot? Opponents may not catch a ball what with all the drool on their hands.

Posted by: TheCork"

Smoot started 4 games last season, including @ NYG, @ PHI, CLE, and @ DET.

Not one of those teams did anything through the air. Eli Manning and Donovan McNabb had some of their worst performances of the season in those games. (McNabb 196 yards, 0 TDs, 0 INTs -- Eli, 216 yards, 0 TDs, 1 INT via...Fred Smoot).

Smoot is still a GREAT nickel corner. As a starter, he's serviceable. And if Barnes can step up to what his potential says he should be, this CB crew is downright scary for teams to see. There's a reason Drew Brees, Kurt Warner, Eli Manning, Donovan McNabb, and Tony Romo all had some of their worst games of the season against this defense (despite the fact that Springs was either out or hobbled for most of those games).

Posted by: psps23 | April 30, 2009 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Smoot is awesome if for no other reason than he's f'n INSANE!!

Posted by: DikShuttle | April 30, 2009 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Cody Glenn strikes me as a very athletic, fast, "football player" and smacks of a diamond in the rough that Bobby Beathard used to make his money mining out of the later rounds.

Here is a guy who can play cover on Special teams, who presumably has some hands and ball skills as a former RB, and who has LOTS of incentive to prove himself as a 1) player and 2) a person after all of this suspension ballyhoo. We'll see, but to me, its all upside.

IMO, any of the guys we could have drafted for Oline in those spots a) were already on the roster or b) got signed as UDFA after the draft anyway. Edwin Williams is a player I am watching as the only other C candidate on the roster. I hope he proves to be an able sub for Rabach and even a possible eventual replacement.

Getting athletic sleepers from LB/DB/WR/TE positions who may contribute on teams is not a bad way to go. What if Cody Glenn or one of these other guys turns out to be this year's Horton?? My money says at least one of them will be.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | April 30, 2009 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Scott Burley
Position: OL

Height:6'5 Weight: 335 (HOG)?

Burley can play both right and left tackle a 2 year stater who emerged as one of the top offensive linemen in the league as a junior. Burley is an "every down" lineman that allowed Marylands running backs to rush for over a 1000 yards each of the last 2 years

Seen this guy play he could be a nice backup he has nice size the only thing that concerns me is that he had back problems that caused him to miss some starts in college...

Still worth a look IMO

Posted by: BenchCampbell | April 30, 2009 1:12 PM | Report abuse

bc, did the redskins bring him in, or are you suggesting that they should bring him in.

Posted by: BeantownGreg | April 30, 2009 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, I love Smoot, but he's about one season away from joining the list of guys I love who I wish the team wasn't depending on to make consistent contributions.

Maybe the secret plan is for the 400-pound-monster that is Fat Williams to join the DT rotation? He could just blob there and clog up the middle on third down while Stompy and AC and Rakkie go hog wild. Just spitballin' here.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | April 30, 2009 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Beantown he is in camp now

Posted by: BenchCampbell | April 30, 2009 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Why do the Skins just automatically go the UM route for UDFA. I understand that college park is in the back yard but you have other schools like UVA, VT, WVU, PITT all withina 4 hour radius. I would imagine that some of them may have servicable lineman as well. This is not a knock on Maryland, they got a good program and put out some very pro ready Olineman and LBS in particular. But i was suprised to see the Cowboys sign as an UDFA Grg Isdaner out of WVU. He skipped his last year of eligablity had already graduated, if he had come back he would have gotten some preseason all america looks, dudes like 6'4 330 guard always looked pretty good. Not saying he is gonna be great but I feel like we should expand our O-line search a little bit cant let these kids in our region get picked up by the girls.

Posted by: Stu27 | April 30, 2009 1:23 PM | Report abuse

I agree on the age thing. This team has this year and next to make their run, then it all comes tumbling down. Hopefully the youth they brought in learns some stuff, 'cause 2011 season is going to be CHALLENGING!!

Posted by: DikShuttle | April 30, 2009 1:23 PM | Report abuse

"Smoot is still a GREAT nickel corner. As a starter, he's serviceable. And if Barnes can step up to what his potential says he should be, this CB crew is downright scary for teams to see. There's a reason Drew Brees, Kurt Warner, Eli Manning, Donovan McNabb, and Tony Romo all had some of their worst games of the season against this defense (despite the fact that Springs was either out or hobbled for most of those games). Posted by: psps23"

I'm sure there's some hyperbole there, but I don't understand the rush to replace Smoot either. The guy's no tackler, but neither was Deion. If you can cover, you can cover, and as Marvin Lewis said, the game's increasingly about quarterbacks and cornerbacks.

Of course that was back when Marvin was the genius behind the Ravens, before he went to a losing team and everyone decided (as they did with Belichick before him) that he didn't know anything.

Looked to me like Springs wasn't much of a factor last year, and my regret at losing him was based in the thought he might make a hell of a safety.

The criticism of Smoot reminds me a little of the carping about Rabach. Both are still very effective players that the fans (some at least) have arbitrarily consigned to the refuse bin.

Posted by: Samson151 | April 30, 2009 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Slow day Bean, really slow day... can't read any more about Cody Glenn and the OT/OG/C that wasn't taken.

So right now I'm posting some left field stuff.
***Dwayne Wade Bashing Post***
On a side note, Truth you're 100% correct. Dwayne Wade is vastly overrated. Right now there is LeBron and Kobe, then there is everyone else. Wade can't shoot, all he does is drive to the basket, and if he's breathed on wrong a foul is called. The NBA wanted him to become the next MJ with Kobe's image tarnished and LeBron not quiet ready as a frontman. It was evident in the '06 finals when he attempted more free throws than the entire Mavericks team in six games.

Posted by: RedDMV | April 30, 2009 1:25 PM | Report abuse

I think I figured out AC, Nate - but who are Rakkie and Stompy?! Oh wait.. got Stompie... lmao!

..ok.. Rakkie... hmmmm. Orakpo?

Ok. Stompy wins! That's funny!


HALT!
..hammerzeit.

Posted by: DikShuttle | April 30, 2009 1:27 PM | Report abuse

"Getting athletic sleepers from LB/DB/WR/TE positions who may contribute on teams is not a bad way to go. What if Cody Glenn or one of these other guys turns out to be this year's Horton?? My money says at least one of them will be.
Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe"

You could be right. Of course, you could be wrong, too. That's what happens with completely baseless speculation like the above.

Posted by: Samson151 | April 30, 2009 1:27 PM | Report abuse

If Mike Williams wasn't 6'6" he could be a three or four year stop gap at RG, then he wouldn't have to lose to much weight than he already has.

He'd be that mauler they need on the line, especially at guard. I wouldn't have a guard any smaller than 325 pounds.

Mauling beast.

Posted by: RedDMV | April 30, 2009 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Chase Daniel
Position:QB

Height:6 Weight:225

Too many accolades to list here are a couple...

2 time contender for the Heisman Trophy and one of 4 finalists in 07

Daniels threw for over 4,000 yards his senior season completing 72% of his passes with 39 TD's and a passer rating of 159

During his career at Missouri he threw for over 12,000 yards and 101 TD's

Lets not forget he also rushed for over 100 yards in a single game as a senior as well...

NFL teams worry that he doesnt have the "size" to be an NFL QB but this guy is a baller

Posted by: BenchCampbell | April 30, 2009 1:31 PM | Report abuse

"but casserly's statement "they won't get better they'll just get older" scares the crap out of me.Posted by: redskinsfanatic1"

It shouldn't. It's just the truth. When you pass your prime, that's what happens.

Doesn't mean you can't play anymore. Just that you're no longer realizing your potential. Or put it this way: there's less of your potential left to realize.

A lot of the really good O-lines have been composed of veterans on the downside of their player careers.

Posted by: Samson151 | April 30, 2009 1:32 PM | Report abuse

If Orakpo pans out, then the defense can be very good with several 'just a guy' guys. The secondary is excellent, though not deep. Fletcher is still a strong presence in the middle. The DL should benefit a lot from Albert, especially vs the run heavy teams in the NFC East. If Orakpo is another Willis or Merriman, then we'll be a top defense, perhaps an elite defense. I'm good with that. While Curry would have virtually assured us of being an elite defense, Orakpo has the potential to do the same.

Which is why the lack of focus on the obvious hole on the OL is so mind boggling. After Orakpo, there was one glaring need and using the rest of the draft -- even if it netted only 1 decent OL -- would have been worthwhile.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 30, 2009 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Antonio Dixon
Poistion: DT

Height:6'3 Weight:322

Dixon has improved as a player each year in college...

Somewhat unproven having only made 4 starts in his Senior season. Antonio is a 3-4 Down guy that comes in to "make plays" He is brought in on blitzing formations and excelled in applying pressure on the QB and getting in the backfield to disrupt plays...

From what I have read on him he is not an every down guy but used for special formations blitzes

*sidenote he played offensive and defensive line through his High School career and was considered a top prospect

Posted by: BenchCampbell | April 30, 2009 1:45 PM | Report abuse

So have a lot of trainer's injury tables, Samson! And ours seems to have this amazing propensity to fill about game 6...

Posted by: DikShuttle | April 30, 2009 1:46 PM | Report abuse

benchcampbell

'Chase Daniel....Too many accolades to list here...'

Admission: I never saw Daniels play.

That's why I be lunchin'.

(Whatever that is.)

So I'm wondering how a guy perfroms the way you cite, but isn't considered NFL material.

Too bad the mini-camp is closed to the public.

It would nice if some curious reporter went and came back with information about the guys we drafted.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 30, 2009 1:47 PM | Report abuse

MistaMoe you missed out the guy was very exciting to watch in college problem is if you are under 6'2 and a QB it is an uphill battle in the NFL

Posted by: BenchCampbell | April 30, 2009 1:54 PM | Report abuse

MistaMoe you missed out the guy was very exciting to watch in college problem is if you are under 6'2 and a QB it is an uphill battle in the NFL

Posted by: BenchCampbell | April 30, 2009 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Moe, please tell me those earlier quotes were WH Macy from that Marky Mark movie!! (hello Donkey, you're a Donkey...say "hello" to ya mutha fo me...). Otherwise I'll be crying for a week.

Lunchin' is like joshin' only you're probably high and half mean it...

Posted by: DikShuttle | April 30, 2009 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Daniels isn't going to turn into anything just the same way Colt isn't ever going to start in the league. I remain convinced that each year Zorn is here they will bring in a new project QB for him. It keeps him medium

Posted by: Hail2theChief | April 30, 2009 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Obama Security Member Has Suspected Case of Swine Flu

A member of the security advance team for President Obama's recent trip to Mexico is suspected of having contracted the swine flu, a senior White House official says.

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 30, 2009 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Chase is under the NFL you must be this tall to ride chart. Pretty much if you aint on the big side of 6'2 you cannot play QB or at least get drafted, if you do get drafted and are under that height at QB then you probably broke some records along the way. Plus he played in a spread passing offense, that always hurts a players stock if they are a QB, RB, WR or OL, just look at crabtree this year, although that also had bat sh!t crazy Al written all over it.

Posted by: Stu27 | April 30, 2009 2:06 PM | Report abuse

We used to say that about Babe Laufenberg, too, Chief. And Schuler was going to be an all-star. Goeff Jorge too. And Trent Green wasn't going to be squat. And Dilfer sucked....

Oh, let's not forget Flutie - he couldn't play a lick.

Maybe Colt won't be a starter. But could someone please point me to the resource that shows his Sukkage? I have yet to see it. All I saw was a raw, talented, unique player who made some nice passes. And goofed up a couple plays too.

How many prototype QBs have ended up ruining teams while servicable talented square pegs ended up riding the bench, unavailed of pro training and then squandered? Sometime the answer isn't finding the round peg, but making a square hole!

And it's not like Daniel nor Brennan haven't shown that they can have the mind-set to produce. I would think that if this season tanks like last season, we'll see some Colt afterall... now, I really hope that doesn't happen...

Posted by: DikShuttle | April 30, 2009 2:17 PM | Report abuse

RE: Swine Flu...

Anybody read The Stand??

.....ew....

Posted by: DikShuttle | April 30, 2009 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Scott Burley
Position: OL

Height:6'5 Weight: 335 (HOG)?

Sounds like he's worth a look at guard if tackle doesn't work out.

Posted by: edvar | April 30, 2009 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Edvar good point..

Posted by: BenchCampbell | April 30, 2009 2:36 PM | Report abuse

For all those that think top OL need to be drafted.....

Look at this list:
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/pgStory?contentId=9515844#sport=NFL%20Draft&photo=9508860

Posted by: goosedude | April 30, 2009 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Doug Dutch
Position:CB

Height:5'11 Weight:199

Interesting guy played most of his football career as a wide receiver until his senior season where he played corner and special teams... He even did some punt/kick returning this guy has speed clocking a 4.3 40

Smart guy earned academic acheivement awards throughout college. Good candidate for a special teams guy and has played several positions which makes him versatile

*Sidenote he is a local guy who grew up in Bowie MD and was a High School standout at Gonzaga

Posted by: BenchCampbell | April 30, 2009 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Anyone ever notice how Charley Casserly always answers a question by first saying
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH... He's been doing this for years AAHHHHHHH.... Well AHHHHHH... that QB Jason AHHHHH Campbell AHHHHHHHH is one heck of AHHHHHH physical AHHHHHHH specimen. Watch him the next time you see him on NFL network...

Posted by: rlomax67 | April 30, 2009 2:47 PM | Report abuse

mistamoe: "So I'm wondering how a guy perfroms the way you cite, but isn't considered NFL material.Too bad the mini-camp is closed to the public."

He's from Missouri, so we should be saying: show me.

Actually, Daniels has some of the same problems that Colt Brennan does. He comes out of a gimmicky offense and doesn't have a great arm. His strength is throwing on the move and making something from busted plays. Didn't hurt he got to throw to Jeremy Maclin and Chase Coffman, either.

He's short and thickly built, unlike Brennan. I imagine scouts look at him and think: "that's four passes knocked down a game, minimum."

Posted by: Samson151 | April 30, 2009 2:52 PM | Report abuse

"Anyone ever notice how Charley Casserly always answers a question by first saying
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH... He's been doing this for years AAHHHHHHH.... Well AHHHHHH... that QB Jason AHHHHH Campbell AHHHHHHHH is one heck of AHHHHHH physical AHHHHHHH specimen. Watch him the next time you see him on NFL network...Posted by: rlomax67"

I noticed that. Somebody find a tongue depressor.

At least he doesn't say 'most definitely'. That's my all-time favorite jock earworm.

Posted by: Samson151 | April 30, 2009 2:54 PM | Report abuse

What is this guy problem with Jason Campbell? Did Jason Campbell do something to you JLC? It's like he just cant a QB go, or he tries to stir something up hoping Snyder and the boys will read it. I am pretty sure NOBODY emailed him about Vick or Farve.

Posted by: gcoles32 | April 30, 2009 3:19 PM | Report abuse

skinswest: "Yes the 5th-7th rounds are important but they are also picks that have a lower percentage of making it"

A lot less. Teams may keep them around for practice, but relatively few get time on the field in any significant measure.

For instance, in 08, of the 45 players drafted in the 7th round, only 7 contributed to any real extent. Horton was the most obvious, but guys like Peyton Hillis in Denver and Jamey Richard in Indianapolis also left a mark.

None of them were tackles.

Posted by: Samson151 | April 30, 2009 3:27 PM | Report abuse

guys/gals - its not hard to see what's going on here with this team and it is sickening. No OL help in the draft and very little in FA (Dockery is okay, williams is a BIG joke). Danvinny is greasing the wheels to get rid of the QB and the head coach. Snyder, who couldn't mocate his ass with a funnel, is going to clean house, bring shanahan in and then trade up to get a bradford in next years draft.

There is no way any sane person with ANY football knowledge keeps neglecting his team's area of need. I do suppose it's possible we needed a one year LB that is mainly a RB that lies, is undersized has has little shot to make the roster, don't think we had one of them on the roster. We needed ANOTHER TE and WR in the 7th round I guess in case those 2nd rounders don't pan out.

I'm glad K Campbell rejected their crappy ass offer - i hope this team blows up, JC leaves fro greener pastures and maybe, just maybe some day Snyder realizes he's been an ass clown and hires someone who knows what he is doing. But really, out of all the people in the NFL who do know what they are doing - who the hell would sign on to work with these munches?

God Bless out dust covered trophies and please don't let the Danny ever hoist one in his lifetime. I'd rather talk about the good old days than have his methods validated.

Let me know if you think I'm being ridiculous.

Posted by: DEskinzfan | April 30, 2009 3:29 PM | Report abuse

I'd take Casserly back in a heartbeat.

Posted by: drischord | April 30, 2009 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Not sure how one can be a football fan and have not seen chase daniel play. However, He will be in camp to to keep 17,10,& 5 on a pitch count. If he shines he may make the practice squad. He put up gaudy numbers @ MIZZ with the spread offense and is more like 5'10 than 6' and more like fat compared to being stocky. He has no shot @ running the wildcat due to a brutal 40 time. If they were evering going to get anything besides a faircatch out of 82 that would be the ideal formation for him...

Posted by: Diesel44 | April 30, 2009 8:39 PM | Report abuse

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