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Cerrato: No Discussion of Zorn's Future

This issue has been pretty well addressed by you guys today, but here's Barry Svrluga's report:

Vinny Cerrato, the Washington Redskins' executive vice president for football operations, said today that team officials have not discussed the status of first-year coach Jim Zorn, and that any speculation that Zorn could be removed is driven by the media.

"In this building, that question has never even been brought up," said Cerrato, speaking on his "Inside the Red Zone" radio program on WTEM. "It's never even been discussed."

Show host Frank Hanrahan then asked Cerrato whether Zorn would return next season, to which Cerrato responded, "Yeah. There's not even been any discussion, so, end of discussion."

Cerrato has declined interview requests over the past week and said Zorn's future was being discussed externally, not internally.

"It's business as usual in this building," he said.

By Cindy Boren  |  December 19, 2008; 3:01 PM ET
 
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I should get a freakin' residual check for every time I post and get Beep-beeped.

From the last thread.

+++give betts the start...

Posted by: BeantownGreg++++


Stop with the Ladell Betts stuff, already.

Betts had ONE very good year, where he gained more than 1,000 yards. One out of SEVEN.

His second best year? 371 yards. Third? 338. He has a grand total of eleven touchdowns rushing in his career.

Receiving? He’s scored exactly three times on pass receptions. Aside from his one great year, the most balls he’s ever caught in a season is 21. That’s 21 catches in 16 games.

Including his great year, his average yards per game rushing is 32.3. His average yards per game receiving is 14.

Second round draft choice. And except for 2006, he’s always been ineffective or injured or both.


Posted by: TheCork |

Posted by: TheCork | December 19, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

IMDI: Idiots, mentally Deficient Imbeciles Inc.

Means Snidely Owl has been champing at the bit to
fire Zorn. Let him try to hire McNabb; do something positive with his obsession.

"It's business as usual in this building," he said.

Posted by: periculum | December 19, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

I take it back

Cork, your an idiot

Betts, unsurprisingly, has BACKUP NUMBERS because he is, well, a BACKUP.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | December 19, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Might as well go with Betts and McNabb ... ~smiles~
Might actually work with this defense and 1 decent WR draft pick or 2.

Posted by: periculum | December 19, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

+++Show host Frank Hanrahan then asked Cerrato whether Zorn would return next season, to which Cerrato responded, "Yeah. There's not even been any discussion, so, end of discussion."+++


If this team is EVER going to get healthy, cerrato won't be the person making that decision when it's made. He can keep the radio show, tho.

Posted by: TheCork | December 19, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Portis:

"Bench me once, shame on you. Bench me twice... can't get benched again."

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | December 19, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

thank you cindy for the post. i had missed the exact quotes.

Posted by: dealer1 | December 19, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

I take it back

Cork, your an idiot

Betts, unsurprisingly, has BACKUP NUMBERS because he is, well, a BACKUP.

Posted by: TheTruth11

First of all, you're a Flip-flopper. Your cruel changes of mind are leaving me emotionally exhausted.

Second. WHY does Betts have backup numbers? I suppose it's part of the same conspiracy that keeps fine receiving talents like Thomas, Davis and Kelly benched.

WHY do you think the skins were able to re-sign Betts in free agency for relatively low-ball numbers? Could it be because no one else wanted him?

And it wasn't because no one wants a backup. Er, Michael Turner.

Wait a minute...we almost agree:

YOU:"Betts, unsurprisingly, has BACKUP NUMBERS because he is, well, a BACKUP."

ME: "Betts, unsurprisingly, has BACKUP NUMBERS because he is, well, a CAREER BACKUP."

He's essentially a taller Rock Cartwright. But Cartwright only cost a seventh round pick. Betts was a 2nd rounder.

Posted by: TheCork | December 19, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Cerrato couldn't say anything else. You say you have confidence in your coach pretty much right up until the day you fire him.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 19, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

I heart Rock more than I hear Ladel.

Posted by: alex35332 | December 19, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

well vinny isn't lying when he says "no discussions in THIS BUILDING..." as you all know most of the critical team decisions/interviews take place at snyder's mansion.

Posted by: dealer1 | December 19, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

If it truly is "business as usual in this building", then the coaching search for 2009 has already begun. Unless we get Bill Cowher, and even then, it's going to be a rough 2009 if we have a new guy on the sidelines next year.

Posted by: dmorgan6617 | December 19, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

I wish there was discussion regarding Vinny's future and not Zorny's.

Posted by: REDneckSKINhead | December 19, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Betts still looks like the better all around player than Portis. Looking at the one year he got to touch the ball more than 5-6 times per game.

Biggest problem was the 6 fumbles in 2006.

2008 11 games 53 carries 3.3 yards/carry 1 TD
177 yards 4.8 carries/game 14 longest

2008 11 games 15 receptions 150 yards
10.0 yards/catch 27 yards longest


2006 16 games 245 carries 1,154 yards 4 TDs
4.7 yds/carry 15.3 carries/game
72.1 yards per game 26 yards longest

2006 16 games 53 receptions 445 yards 1 TD
8.4 catches/game 27.8 yds/game 34 longest 22 first downs

Posted by: periculum | December 19, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Michael Turner over Portis not Betts.

Posted by: periculum | December 19, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Why is it teams like Atlanta and Miami go from being doormats to playoff contenders in one season when it takes the Redskins so much energy and effort to eek out close wins each and every season, walking a tightrope between 5-11 and 9-7? Could it be that a major front office overhall, done correctly, leads to nearly immediate success?

I hope Danny will one day wake up and make some moves that will better the team and not just increase his bank account while helping his loser friends get cushy jobs destroying decades of Redskins tradition and pedigree.

Posted by: dmorgan6617 | December 19, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

"I wish there was discussion regarding Vinny's future and not Zorny's."

Pretty much everyone agrees with that except for Snidely Owl. He is far worst than John Kent Cooke.

Posted by: periculum | December 19, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

"Portis Gets Treatment for Back Spasms"

"Back" Spasm Symptoms
1)when your running back throws his O-line under the bus to the media
2)when your running back talks about splitting ties with a team b/c he sits out a half
3)when your running back dresses up like a tranny for media interviews

I'm glad he's finally getting treatment...


Posted by: p1funk | December 19, 2008 2:57 PM


So tell me, which nut did you gravitate more to, the left one or the right one? I'm sure you were on 'em when he was ripping of 120+ for five straight, or back in '05 when he finished with 4-6 100+ yard games, putting the 'skins in the playoffs.

I bet you were pissed faced when Bailey was traded for Portis. Why don't you admit that you never liked the trade, therefor developed an agenda against Portis, and still carry it with you to this day?

All the anti-Portis comments coming out the woodwork all the sudden is plain sickening to read! It looks like the ones making these comments are fake and phoney people.

Again, is Portis a "diva"? Yes, which great player wasn't one in some form or fashion? Was Portis wrong for airing out the dirty laundry? Yes, but Zorn did it first. Dude, Zorn played the media card and it bit him the ass. Zorn's F up, not Portis'. So, don't front like Portis wasn't or isn't S__t to this team. Don't front like he hasn't been THAT guy for the last 5 years.

If you're a fan of this team, show some basic f'n apprecaiation for what he has done and accomplished while wearing YOUR team colors.

It's funny people talk bad about Portis and Moss like they play for the f'n Cowboys or somebody. I bet when Portis goes for 120 (next season, LOL) or when Moss makes a 40+ yard catch, you'll be nibblin' on the nads once again.

Posted by: RedDMV | December 19, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

I hope DS has finally matured and will give Zorn a few years to get his players and system installed.
Anyone know the status of Phillip Daniels and Alex Buzbee, as well as Mike Espy? I wonder how they are progressing in rehab?

Posted by: lsskinsfan | December 19, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

On the radio show, did they ask Vinny about his job for next year?

Posted by: The_Spear | December 19, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: Cindy Boren | December 19, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

"It's never even been discussed" > The Dreaded Vote of Confidence

Posted by: 4-12 | December 19, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

I agree. It amazes me that Vinny Boy still has a job. I understand that he is Danny's lap dog, but my God! We are the laughing stock of the NFl when it comes to our front office, outside of Oakland of course. We are never going to be a real contender until we get a real GM and Danny gives up the idea that he knows football.

It must feel like Christmas to be another team's GM and to hear your phone ring and you look down to see that it is the Redskins calling. I swear that I think that some GMs ask for things in trades with the Redskins that they never expect to get. And, when Vinny and Danny agree, there has to be disbelief and hysterical laughter on the other end of the phone. They must want to get the papers signed as soon as possible before Vinny sobers up and realizes what a stupid deal it is!

Posted by: NCMatt1 | December 19, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

"Again, is Portis a "diva"? Yes, which great player wasn't one in some form or fashion? "

Sammy Baugh
Fran Tarkenton
Marvin Harrison
Art Monk

off the top of my head

Posted by: TheTruth11 | December 19, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Again, is Portis a "diva"? Yes, which great player wasn't one in some form or fashion+++

Marvin Harrison, LT, Mcnabb, both Mannings', ..... these are just a few off the cuff.

Posted by: lsskinsfan | December 19, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

i'm going to yank my eyes out if i read "zorn's system or zorn's offense" one more time.

guys, zorny has NEVER been a coordinator. he has never had an offense. he coached QB's. he worked on their mechanics!!! he's not a west coast offensive genius. what has he done to earn him his offense? nothing. the dude is a dudd!, a bigger dudd than norv. actually norv should be insulted for that comparison.

Posted by: dealer1 | December 19, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: dealer1 | December 19, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Vinny Cerrato, owner Dan Snyder's hand-picked director of player personnel for the Washington Redskins, was fired Tuesday by new coach Marty Schottenheimer.

No long-term replacement was named. Veteran scout Ron Nay, who has been with the Redskins for five seasons, will be in charge of the NFL draft in April, and the position will be re-evaluated at that time.

``As I said when I joined the Redskins, all aspects of the football organization are under review,'' Schottenheimer said in a statement released by the team. ``We've determined this is the best direction for the Washington Redskins.''

Those days seemed like a dream!!!!!

Posted by: ButzHead | December 19, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Beep Beep.

[Just finished an office party...food coma...too lazy to move ahead...will stay on this thread for a bit]

Posted by: 4-12 | December 19, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Vinny Cerrato, owner Dan Snyder's hand-picked director of player personnel for the Washington Redskins, was fired Tuesday by new coach Marty Schottenheimer.

No long-term replacement was named. Veteran scout Ron Nay, who has been with the Redskins for five seasons, will be in charge of the NFL draft in April, and the position will be re-evaluated at that time.

``As I said when I joined the Redskins, all aspects of the football organization are under review,'' Schottenheimer said in a statement released by the team. ``We've determined this is the best direction for the Washington Redskins.''

Those days seemed like a dream!!!

Posted by: ButzHead | December 19, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

i'm going to yank my eyes out if i read "zorn's system or zorn's offense" one more time. ++++


Promise?

Zorn's offense, Zorn's offense, Zorn's offense

Posted by: lsskinsfan | December 19, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Agree with most of the comments about the FO - VINNY NEEDS TO GO. We need a real GM with a long term plan, commitment, and leadership. Snyder needs to stand back and give this person room to make it happen. As far as players, yes, major overhaul on both lines. Finally, I don't think the Skins will make it out of mediocrity with Jason Campbell at the helm. Holds the ball too long and has a slow, telegraphed, release which results in too many tipped balls at the line of scrimmage. Since we all agree there's a need to revamp, let's get Colt in there and see what he can do.

Posted by: bones21 | December 19, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse


Mister Cerrato:
See Einstein's definition
Of insanity.

Posted by: HaikuMan | December 19, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Cerrato is a douch bag. Can anyone think of another person who was succesful that had that glassed over look in there eyes? It just screams stupidity everytime I look at that guy... maybe we can spend this years draft picks on CBs and WRs .... since both are lines are sufficent just like they were last offseason. Maybe give Clinton another extension .. you know... b/c of all those long highlight plays were he makes people miss!

Posted by: cwprice2 | December 19, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

I listened to Vinny's interview with Frank Hanrahan in the car on the way to lunch...if you actually believe that what he said is true, I have some shares in GM and Chrysler to sell you. He avoided giving a real answer about Zorn's future without saying they woudn't consider a move. Given Vinny's track record of being less than honest (i.e. Jason Taylor trade), I'd bet that he and Danny have a list of candidates to be the next head coach if Zorn is fired. He probably needs to win the last 2 games to save his job.

Zorn was a fall back when none of the big names like Mariucci or Cowher would accept the job for any amount of $'s. It's about time that Danny found a new racquet ball partner and hired a real GM to run the franchise which is in need of long-term direction. Even if the Skins win their last 2, major changes are needed in the front office to help this team build a long-term foundation.

Posted by: wizfan89 | December 19, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Nobody is going to trade you a good player. You have to draft your own. STOP trading away your draft choices. Get a GM that Knows talent. Look at Miami with Parcells.Pittsburgh drafts blue collar players.

Posted by: kenobill | December 19, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

I just don’t understand why we are even talking about the future of Zorn after 1 year. Why isn’t anyone talking about Cerrato’s job? We need a new GM to replace Vinnie. Wilbon wrote a good article about this stating that this team is in bad shape – definitely not able to keep up with the NFC East teams. Look at the draft. This team is going to be hurting for several more years (d & o lines…weak)

Posted by: aschertzer | December 19, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Either Cerrato has pictures of Dannyboy sucking c**k or Cerrato is personally sucking Danny's c**k himself! There can be no other explanation!

Posted by: Fuzzy21 | December 19, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

It it not Zorn who is the problem. It is not just the offensive line. The problem isn't even the record this year that eliminates us from the post season. The problem is little Danny Boy and his approach to owning the Redskins. Instead of having the most "valuable" (read profitable for the owner at the expense of the fans) wouldn't it be nice to have a team that was owned by someone with a sense of public service? The suburban Maryland Redskins with its giant stadium, its expensive parking, expensive food, and remote subway station may make Danny more wealthy, but it doesn't serve the fans.

Posted by: Sooner1 | December 19, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

TheCork is right on about betts.
How anyone can compare him to Portis is crazy.

Posted by: jmy999 | December 19, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

to TheTruth11
Betts is a backup because well he is a backup.

Posted by: jmy999 | December 19, 2008 6:29 PM | Report abuse

"Business as usual around here." Thanks Vinny. How reassuring that is. Moron.

Posted by: ridgely1 | December 19, 2008 7:36 PM | Report abuse

Cerrato is a complete hack. I thought Casserly was bad. Cerrato makes Casserly look good. That's pretty pathetic.

Cerrato must go.

Posted by: astrober1 | December 19, 2008 8:35 PM | Report abuse

"Business as usual?" Oh no, that's what we were afraid of!

Posted by: abrockway | December 19, 2008 9:19 PM | Report abuse

Fire Cerrato so we can overhaul the team and build this franchise to its former glory. Hey danny (boy!!!!)doesnt winning create profitability!!!!! idiot.

Posted by: VGOGHEDGE | December 19, 2008 9:35 PM | Report abuse

Portis is WAY better than Betts. It's a no-brainer. It's like comparing Sean Taylor to Adam Archuletta.


Posted by: LeftwithNochoice | December 19, 2008 10:57 PM | Report abuse

Whatever extra Snyder is throwing into Cerrato's paycheck for steadfastly - well, for the most part - appearing on the radio twice a week, he needs to double it. I can't even imagine what DC sports radio was like before Vinny started rockin' the mic. . . . . .

dealer1 has nailed it, no other way to interpret that newest of useless nuggets from Vinny.

Posted by: rooster75 | December 19, 2008 11:12 PM | Report abuse

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