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Cerrato on Davis (Doughty Update After Jump)

Jason Reid on the Fred Davis Incident:
Some draft evaluators reported that USC tight end Fred Davis exhibited poor work habits and made questionable decisions at times. But the Redskins considered Davis to be too talented to leave on the board as they prepared to make the 48th overall pick in last weekend's NFL draft.
Questions arose anew about Davis's decision making after he missed the final practice of minicamp on Sunday. The Redskins said Davis simply overslept. Attempts to contact Davis were unsuccessful, but Davis's brother, Kedran, also said that Davis overslept after a late night out on Saturday.
Davis spoke with Coach Jim Zorn on Sunday and apologized for behaving unprofessionally, and the Redskins said the matter would be handled internally. After the Redskins completed their first OTA on Monday at Redskins Park, Vinny Cerrato, Washington's executive vice president of football operations, said that Davis got the message.
"The biggest thing is, as long as they learn from their mistakes, that's the biggest thing," Cerrato said. "The kid felt awful. Jim got a chance to talk to him and Jim's handling it internally. I've talked to his agents and the kid feels horrible, which he should.
"Anytime you miss anything, to me it's important. Especially when you're here to ... he's making his first impression. Do what's right. He made a mistake. Now, he's got to fight back from the mistake."
Although it is only minicamp, Davis impressed when he did participate. He displayed the receiving skills that helped him win the Mackey Award, which is presented to the nation's top tight end, as a senior at USC, making several nifty catches in 7-on-7 passing work.
Cerrato was aware of the talk surrounding Davis before the draft. But USC Coach Pete Carroll, who worked with Cerrato in the San Francisco 49ers' organization, persuaded Cerrato that Davis was the type of player who could help the Redskins.
"We checked him out thoroughly and we were fine with everything," Cerrato said. "I talked to Pete a couple of times. There was never any big issue. I know he missed something and [he was suspended for the 2005 Orange Bowl as a freshman]. I think, a lot of times, you go away from home, you get homesick. He's from Ohio and he went to California.
"Young guy like that in college ... you mature. When he got comfortable with his environment, he matured. He was a freshman. I was homesick when I was a freshman, too. I think it's just a maturation process, a learning process, and he has to learn from his mistakes."

A day after he was excused from the final practice of minicamp to be with his ailing son, starting safety Reed Doughty rejoined the Redskins for the start of OTAs. Doughty's son, Micah, is battling a viral infection that occurred after he underwent a recent kidney transplant.
"He's doing okay, but it's still a process," said Doughty, who updated the team on Micah's condition before practice. "He's still in the hospital. He's got a virus that a lot of kids get, but it's a little more wearing on him with the transplant. His fever came down. That's a big thing."
On Sunday, Doughty left Redskins Park after being informed his son had a high temperature, which reached 105.8 degrees, Doughty said. "The problem was it just stayed there for so long," Doughty said. "They just wanted to keep him. He'll probably be in the hospital a few more days."
Micah, 21 months, underwent transplant surgery on March 10. Micah was born nearly six weeks prematurely and had chronic kidney failure, which required him to take a variety of medication and undergo dialysis each night at the Doughty's home.
Blood work performed yesterday showed that Micah's kidney was not failing, which was a relief to Doughty and his wife, Katie. "It's just a matter of trying to get him better. You want to be at the hospital and make sure he gets the fluids he needs. Dehydration ... that's what's dangerous."
Doughty, a former sixth-round draft pick in 2006, has emerged as a key player for Washington while coping with his son's poor health. He moved into the starting lineup in Week 11 last season against the Dallas Cowboys in place of Pro Bowl safety Sean Taylor, who was sidelined because of a sprained knee, and remained there after Taylor was killed during a bungled break-in at his home in November (four men from Fort Myers, Fla., have been charged with felony murder and armed burglary in connection with Taylor's death).
"It's not easy sometimes," Doughty said. "Even though my focus is on the field when I'm on the field, you still, you know ... it is hard to get away from [thoughts of his son's health]. But I feel like when I'm on the field I'm on the field. When I'm off, I'm going to see my family and try to take care of those things.
"You really just have to focus on the task at hand. We've been in the hospital, we've been out of the hospital, so you just try not to look too far ahead. You just try to take care of that day."

By Cindy Boren  |  May 5, 2008; 2:13 PM ET
 
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Comments

Third?

Posted by: Chia Pet | May 5, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

According to John Clayton:

Then there was second-round pick Fred Davis. He couldn't sleep Saturday night because his roommate wouldn't shut up. So he went to the desk of the hotel and asked for a different room. He slept until 11 a.m., and the team couldn't find him because he wasn't in the right room. Zorn wants his players alert -- but Fred, tell the roommate to shut up and don't forget the wakeup call.

Posted by: burns | May 5, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Yeahhhhhhh!

I WON!

Posted by: Chia Pet | May 5, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

But USC Coach Pete Carroll, who worked with Cerrato in the San Francisco 49ers' organization, persuaded Cerrato that Davis was the type of player who could help the Redskins

Nice draft strategy

Posted by: Anonymous | May 5, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

1st AND 3rd!

Posted by: Chia Pet | May 5, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

But USC Coach Pete Carroll, who worked with Cerrato in the San Francisco 49ers' organization, persuaded Cerrato that Davis was the type of player who could help the Redskins

Nice draft strategy

Posted by: | May 5, 2008 2:21 PM

Why would you want to talk to a guy's college coach when you can learn everything you need to know about a guy by reading Redskins Insider?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 5, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

I'm sick in my stomach after reading about Doughty's Son. I pray he makes it out and becomes a great Football player......

Posted by: 4th | May 5, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Good to hear D son is doing better

Posted by: jm220 | May 5, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

I'm sick in my stomach after reading about Doughty's Son. I pray he makes it out and becomes a great Football player......

Posted by: 4th | May 5, 2008 2:32 PM


_______


let's just pray for good health and be glad his kidney isn't failing...

...who cares if the kid ever plays football.

Let him have a chance at life first.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 5, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

We've been following the Doughty family literally since the beginning of this blog, training camp '06. Absolutely heart-wrenching.

I hope the little guy continues to get stronger and gets to watch his daddy play for the Skins for many a season.

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 5, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Reed- we're all pulling for your son.
RI - keep up the good work with JLC out.

Posted by: anon | May 5, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

let's just pray for good health and be glad his kidney isn't failing...

...who cares if the kid ever plays football.

Let him have a chance at life first.

Posted by: | May 5, 2008 2:39 PM


We don't need to be cynical on this subject as well...

The boy can do more than just live. He can live life.

Posted by: 4th | May 5, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Thoughts and prayers from us to Reed's son!

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 5, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

What I don't get on he Fred Davis sleepgate or whatever it is being called is (and not to take any responsibility from him) if the rookies are picked up by bus and taken to the field, how do you not know that your 2nd round pick is not on the bus??

Could it be the confusion of having three 2nd rounders?

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 5, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Reed's son is always in RI's thoughts, get through this recent setback!!!!!!!

Posted by: chris larrY | May 5, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Here's a piece (with pix) JLaC did on little Micah and the Doughtys about 18 months ago:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/25/AR2006122500489.html

Posted by: Cindy | May 5, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

What I don't get on he Fred Davis sleepgate or whatever it is being called is (and not to take any responsibility from him) if the rookies are picked up by bus and taken to the field, how do you not know that your 2nd round pick is not on the bus??

Could it be the confusion of having three 2nd rounders?

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 5, 2008 2:55 PM


WOW, can we please get over the Fred Davis sleeping thing?!


It couldnt have been a more minor event!!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 5, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

let's just pray for good health and be glad his kidney isn't failing...

...who cares if the kid ever plays football.

Let him have a chance at life first.

Posted by: | May 5, 2008 2:39 PM


We don't need to be cynical on this subject as well...

The boy can do more than just live. He can live life.

Posted by: 4th | May 5, 2008 2:49 PM

No one is being cynical.

The kid is fighting for his life at 21 month old and your hoping he becomes a great football player?

I understand where your coming from but this tough little kid has a long way to go before he step on a football field.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 5, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

so which is it, he was out partying late or he had a talkative roommate? i find the "talkative roommate" to be one of the thinnest excuses i've ver heard... maybe the dog ate his alarm clock?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 5, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse


What I don't get on he Fred Davis sleepgate or whatever it is being called is (and not to take any responsibility from him) if the rookies are picked up by bus and taken to the field, how do you not know that your 2nd round pick is not on the bus??

Could it be the confusion of having three 2nd rounders?

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 5, 2008 2:55 PM

WOW, can we please get over the Fred Davis sleeping thing?!


It couldnt have been a more minor event!!

Posted by: | May 5, 2008 2:58 PM

Did I miss somewhere that there is a list of what topics we are supposed to post about? If so, can someone please post them so that I don't get into trouble again?

For some reason I thought that this thread was on Davis and Reed's son Micah.

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 5, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Can we at least establish an Anon #1, Anon #2 type system so we can chart who is saying what from the mystery dimension?

Posted by: chris larrY | May 5, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse

I wish we drafted Calais Campbell instead of Fred Davis. We would have gotten an young player at DE who could have gotten time with the first team defense and we wouldn't have to hear about Chris Cooley's back-up missing practice.

You'd think Fred Davis would be smart enough to not stir up trouble until after his contract is signed. He is obviously too stupid or lazy to do that or even set his own alarm. Can we put a clause in his contract that his mommy has to move to Ashburn and live with him? He apparently needs it. What a freaking joke.

And yes, I realize he just missed a worthless mini-camp practice, but at the size of these guys' contracts you think they could act like grown men instead of little boys even though all they really do is play a game.

While I'm ranting, is there a way to block all the people who feel the urge to write "1st or 7th or nth"?

Posted by: Tim | May 5, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse

WOW, can we please get over the Fred Davis sleeping thing?!


It couldnt have been a more minor event!!

Posted by: | May 5, 2008 2:58 PM

Why are you trying to tell us *not* to discuss a topic? I mean, I'm happy to hear your opinion that it's unimportant, but isn't that just *your* opinion?

You don't tolerate disagreement on your blog? (Ha)

Posted by: Anonymous | May 5, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse

And most importantly, best wishes go out to the Doughty family!

Posted by: Tim | May 5, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Interesting comment from Wilbon during his chat today.

Burke, Va.: Mike, when you say you don't read blogs, are you including the ones written by "real" reporters -- like Ivan Carter and Michael Lee's "Wizards Insider" here on the washingtonpost.com? Seems like a great place for them to give readers additional writing that they can't get column inches for in the dead tree edition...

Michael Wilbon: Those aren't blogs. That's marketing junk. They're opinionated reports that are edited by Post editors just like their stories in The Post. Their reports labeled as blogs to snare people who think they're getting something new and trendy. Please."

I feel like Dorothy after the curtain reveals the "wizard."

Posted by: LH | May 5, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Calais Campbell may turn out to be the second coming of Bruce Smith but I think given our new defensive line coach was his coach at Miami I just don't think we loved him if we passed on him at 48.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 5, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

so whats the truth here? did he have a talkative room mate as clayton says, or was he out late partying like his brother said?

my theory - he was out late partying and didnt want to get "caught" coming in late or wake his room mate up so he asked for another room.

Posted by: talkshowhost | May 5, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

WOW, can we please get over the Fred Davis sleeping thing?!


It couldnt have been a more minor event!!

Posted by: | May 5, 2008 2:58 PM

Why are you trying to tell us *not* to discuss a topic? I mean, I'm happy to hear your opinion that it's unimportant, but isn't that just *your* opinion?

You don't tolerate disagreement on your blog? (Ha)

Posted by: | May 5, 2008 3:09 PM

Actually,I am a little surprised we're still talking about it.


Curzon, if your so curious why don't you hire Scooby and the Gang to figure it out.

Who can blame a receiver in the Zorn Era for catching some extra ZZZZ's!

Posted by: Tyler Ecker-Groin | May 5, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

That is such horsiht by Wilbon, wow....their is a grain of truth in what he says, but he is still wrong...I am so increasingly sickened by these Baby Boomers types p*ssing their pants over new trends in media/journalism/newspapers...

wow...just wow

F wilbon, Tony K, Buzz Bissenger, bob costas and the rest of these toolz who are obviously scared for their cush lifestyles...

Cindy can we get a response from any of the many journalists (sports and non) that blog for the Wash Po on this?

Posted by: chris larrY | May 5, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Cindy can we get a response from any of the many journalists (sports and non) that blog for the Wash Po on this?

Posted by: chris larrY | May 5, 2008 3:16 PM

An unedited response please! LOL

Posted by: Anonymous | May 5, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Interesting comment from Wilbon during his chat today.

Burke, Va.: Mike, when you say you don't read blogs, are you including the ones written by "real" reporters -- like Ivan Carter and Michael Lee's "Wizards Insider" here on the washingtonpost.com? Seems like a great place for them to give readers additional writing that they can't get column inches for in the dead tree edition...

Michael Wilbon: Those aren't blogs. That's marketing junk. They're opinionated reports that are edited by Post editors just like their stories in The Post. Their reports labeled as blogs to snare people who think they're getting something new and trendy. Please."

I feel like Dorothy after the curtain reveals the "wizard."

Posted by: LH | May 5, 2008 3:11 PM


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Makes Rosie O'Canfora sewing circle look like a bunch of RUBES!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 5, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Note to Wilbon, most of the successful indie blogs (Huff Post, Deadspin, Gawker, Endgadget) have editors as well.......

Posted by: chris larrY | May 5, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Screw wilbon, and his agenda, he's a know nothing pos. "Sean T. embraced the thug life and refused to distance himself from it". Sorry, I'm not forgiving, or forgetting that one.

Posted by: Greg | May 5, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Tyler Ecker-Groin | May 5, 2008 3:14 PM

No need to hire anyone since I know that RI has all of the answers. Just have to keep reading because someone will post the true answer here.

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 5, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Todd Yoder on Chris Cooley (via the sports bog): http://chriscooley47.blogspot.com/2008/04/video-tells-all.html

Posted by: Mark in 21132 | May 5, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Hey anon, why are you here then if were such rubes? Sounds like you want a ball of yarn yourself....join the fun you can start by making a scarf!

Posted by: Rubes R Us | May 5, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

I think Wilbon, when he chats, often doesn't really read over what he writes before he hits send!
The thing that differentiates our blogs is that we have access, we do the legwork you'd expect reporters to do, we talk to sources, we apply the standards of journalism. Often, there is editing; often, there is no time for it.
Just as there is a place for the type of blogging we do, there is plenty of room for that which prides itself on having no access, favor or agenda. Will Leitch is a friend of mine and I love what he does. I love what we do.

Posted by: Cindy | May 5, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

DAVIS AND DOUGHTY

I have an idea. Instead of fining Davis, how about having him do community service at the hospital, and perhaps the ward, where Doughty's son was being treated while Davis overslept.

Posted by: Corkczar | May 5, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

interesting take on blogs from Michael Wilbon:

Burke, Va.: Mike, when you say you don't read blogs, are you including the ones written by "real" reporters -- like Ivan Carter and Michael Lee's "Wizards Insider" here on the washingtonpost.com? Seems like a great place for them to give readers additional writing that they can't get column inches for in the dead tree edition...

Michael Wilbon: Those aren't blogs. That's marketing junk. They're opinionated reports that are edited by Post editors just like their stories in The Post. Their reports labeled as blogs to snare people who think they're getting something new and trendy. Please.

maybe this will put to rest about what is "real" news and what isn't.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 5, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Well said cindy....I mean I think most of us are smart enough to understand a blog which lives under an institutional banner like the Post or Newsweek, and those that are "indie" but both have their place. Its not just marketing, anymore than articles in the print edition are just there to sell pantyhose adds..

I am sorry but the blustery ignorance of the 45+ Wilbon set is discouraging, bitter and completely transparent....this kind of "remember when men were men, and you had ink on your fingers" snobbery even somewhat diminished the final season of The Wire, as David Simon blamed everything on "The internet"....


Oh well...really sets me off...I will relax now...

Posted by: chris larrY | May 5, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

+++Michael Wilbon: Those aren't blogs. That's marketing junk. They're opinionated reports that are edited by Post editors just like their stories in The Post. Their reports labeled as blogs to snare people who think they're getting something new and trendy. Please."+++

If this stuff is "edited," those editors should be fired for incompetence, or at least sent to remedial Spelling School.

Posted by: corkczar | May 5, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Those aren't blogs. That's marketing junk. They're opinionated reports that are edited by Post editors just like their stories in The Post.

Posted by: LH | May 5, 2008 3:11 PM

If Jasno's spelling and grammar has been edited think what it must have read like before that!

Hurrah for run-on sentences and bad grammar and spelling!!

Posted by: Redcoat | May 5, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Snap corkczar! Do you work in the business? you certainly write like you do.

Posted by: Redcoat | May 5, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

I think you guys know when something is edited and when it is not!

Posted by: Cindy | May 5, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

DAVIS AND DOUGHTY

I have an idea. Instead of fining Davis, how about having him do community service at the hospital, and perhaps the ward, where Doughty's son was being treated while Davis overslept.

Posted by: Corkczar | May 5, 2008 3:31 PM

Yea, real classy comment there, Corkczar.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 5, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

" ... Will Leitch is a friend of mine ...."

Posted by: Cindy | May 5, 2008 3:26 PM

Uh oh, what now, was former Vice President Dan Quayle trying to draw parallels between himself and blogger Will Leitch?

Posted by: dcsween | May 5, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

I am sorry but the blustery ignorance of the 45+ Wilbon set is discouraging, bitter and completely transparent....this kind of "remember when men were men, and you had ink on your fingers" snobbery even somewhat diminished the final season of The Wire, as David Simon blamed everything on "The internet"....


Oh well...really sets me off...I will relax now...

Posted by: chris larrY | May 5, 2008 3:34 PM


LOL, your so worthless!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 5, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

I think you guys know when something is edited and when it is not!

Posted by: Cindy | May 5, 2008 3:44 PM

I used to be able to tell back when people complained about spelling ... esp. when I was late to a thread and the previously misspelled word had been corrected via an "update". I'm not certian I cna tlel the diffreence nwo.

Posted by: dcsween | May 5, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Continued good thoughts and good mojo to the Doughty family. Glad to hear the little Dough is doing better.

Posted by: sfskin | May 5, 2008 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Any ideas as to who was the talkative roomate that Clayton referred to?

Posted by: M | May 5, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

If this stuff is "edited," those editors should be fired for incompetence, or at least sent to remedial Spelling School.


Posted by: corkczar | May 5, 2008 3:36 PM


wow. so, okay. you were smart enough to catch that error. so tell me something, smarty pants. why is it that you're proofreading a online transcript from Michael Wilbon if you're so smart? its people like YOU who gives blogs the type of reputation they have.

so, go back and spell/grammar check all that.

it must feel good to be able to correct the mistakes of others on a BLOG. It sort of puts your life into perspective, doesn't it? it can't be that much of a issue, i mean, you were able to read it right?

here's what you do: apply for a teacher's license. take a bunch of test, and presto, you're a teacher. now, you can apply some of that hard-hitting analysis to the message board of the blogs.

where in the hell would we do without your intellect, dumbass.

well since there is more than one, that would be dumbasses, right, doucheczar? you can chime in too, tea and crumpets boy.

you know who you are.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 5, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Not to beat a dead horse or anything, but just got back from the gas-station, and they had no idea about "bonus points" from RI, being the same as cash. Luckily one of my co-workers had bail money for me.

Posted by: Greg | May 5, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

LOL, your so worthless!

Posted by: | May 5, 2008 3:47 PM

Better worthless than mirthless anon. What do you add to the conversation exactly? Oh, that's right, nothing at all.

Posted by: Redcoat | May 5, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

well since there is more than one, that would be dumbasses, right, doucheczar? you can chime in too, tea and crumpets boy.

Posted by: | May 5, 2008 3:50 PM

Still too scared to 'man up' anon? I didn't hear from you last week, just a few shouts from behind your mom's skirt while you ran back in the house to change your underwear.

Why not just add to the conversation? So much anger....

Posted by: Redcoat | May 5, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Umm did anyone find out the gender of the "talkative" roommate?

[Fill in inappropriate bedroom banter here.]

Posted by: sfskin | May 5, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

I'm ready for practice now, Coach.

Posted by: Fred Davis | May 5, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Sorry Greg, I just checked the fine print on the points, it says "not redeemable on days with a 'y' in them in the state of Massachusetts".

Maybe if you drove out of state? You could then get enough free gas to drive back.

Posted by: Redcoat | May 5, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

" ...
Zorn with QB's:
I'm fine with this, Zorn needs to know these guys inside and out. ..."

Posted by: Rando | May 5, 2008 1:44 PM

I can't disagree, but I would have thought that the CBA had something explicit regarding colonoscopies ...

Posted by: dcsween | May 5, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

DAVIS AND DOUGHTY

I have an idea. Instead of fining Davis, how about having him do community service at the hospital, and perhaps the ward, where Doughty's son was being treated while Davis overslept.

Posted by: Corkczar | May 5, 2008 3:31 PM


Great, more despicable comments from the Fascist loving Communist Corkczar.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 5, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Wow the crankypants are out in full force today.


here's what you do: apply for a teacher's license. take a bunch of test, and presto, you're a teacher. now, you can apply some of that hard-hitting analysis to the message board of the blogs.


Posted by: | May 5, 2008 3:50 PM


If only I had known it was that easy to become a teacher. Man am I dumb! I went to school, spent a bunch of money, sat through classes, wrote papers, read a lot of books. Then I spent/spend hours and hours doing clearly useless things like lesson planning and grading papers. . . . no wonder the public education system is in such disaray. . .

Posted by: sfskin | May 5, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

105.8? Holy moly! Glad to hear the little guy is doing better. Thoughts and prayers to the Doughtys.

Posted by: mtnskinsfan | May 5, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

look, i could care less how i come off on a message board. its not like something i post is going to be awarded "post of the year". its a message to be posted on a blog, not a term paper. i think those who prepare their post as such are either looking for two things: One, you must need constant validation. you must need to be told all the time how smart you are, how you have this -n- that, or whatever else gives you validation. Or, Two: you miss writing term papers that much in school, the blog is the only place where you can match that intense feeling of writing, knowing you've pushed yourself to limitless bounds...

or you can be some self-absorbing douchebag who has the "lookie-a-me-mommy" syndrome.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 5, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Redcoat your kind of a moron if you think only one person is posting "Anon".

...but then that was a given anyway.

Posted by: Anon#8675309 | May 5, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Not to beat a dead horse or anything, but just got back from the gas-station, and they had no idea about "bonus points" from RI, being the same as cash. Luckily one of my co-workers had bail money for me.

Posted by: Greg | May 5, 2008 3:50 PM

Greg, I've never had difficulty redeeming my bonus points. Here's a tip: You're supposed to use the bonus points WITH your credit card, not INSTEAD of your credit card. Works ever time.

Posted by: talent evaluator | May 5, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

and then there are other people who find posting on blogs provides an instantaneous response to and wider audience for their graffiti

Posted by: dcsween | May 5, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

RC, not to come off as all pissy, but that was information I could have used prior to leaving for the gas station.

I'd have been better off just letting my bonus points lapse....

Posted by: Greg | May 5, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

look, i could care less how i come off on a message board. its not like something i post is going to be awarded "post of the year".

Posted by: | May 5, 2008 4:01 PM

Big mistake, dude. Cindy hires a lot of us, and pays us by the post. I made a six figure income last year, working on my own time, and sitting in my own living room. I didn't even have to bathe if I didn't want to.

Straighten up and fly right and you could join us.

Posted by: talent evaluator | May 5, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

I'd have been better off just letting my bonus points lapse....

Posted by: Greg | May 5, 2008 4:06 PM

Tried to help you by betting them off, but looks like the hamsters on RI new more about these bonus points then either of us.

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 5, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

THATS IT!!! I'm friggin done with these bonus points. I don't know where they are, I don't know how to redeem them, I don't know how to track them.

If someone wants my bonus points....you're more than welcome to them.

Posted by: Greg | May 5, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Still too scared to 'man up' anon? I didn't hear from you last week, just a few shouts from behind your mom's skirt while you ran back in the house to change your underwear.

Why not just add to the conversation? So much anger....

Posted by: Redcoat | May 5, 2008 3:54 PM


Um, excuse me. "Man Up?" Are you serious? Do you want to fight me, son? I don't think i'll be engaging in any fighting with you, so thats out. You must want to have a "write off", where we will write a paper on a specfic topic and have it graded by college professors, no? Then what do you want to do, crumpets? I'm not going to entertain your lame challenges any longer they're actually becoming hysterical. "Man up".... you're so funny.

So, if i did put a 'name', does that make me some how more of a man? come off of it and get over yourself, douchebag. just because i choose not to sign a 'name', doesn't make any more or less of a man than you are. you know what just to make you happy, i'll sign, okay?

Posted by: Redcoat's rag | May 5, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Let the Chilling Effect begin......

Posted by: chris larrY | May 5, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Hey Redcoat,

How is calling yourself "Redcoat" any different than posting Anon?

You spew nothing but ignorance and hypocrisy!

Posted by: GoSkins! | May 5, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

++++If Jasno's spelling and grammar has been edited think what it must have read like before that!

Hurrah for run-on sentences and bad grammar and spelling!!

Posted by: Redcoat | May 5, 2008 3:41 PM

Snap corkczar! Do you work in the business? you certainly write like you do.

Posted by: Redcoat | May 5, 2008 3:42 PM+++

i dunno if that's a compliment or an insult. But yeah, I did. Whether or not I still do depends on if I can peddle my next book.

Looks like some great minds were thinking the same way about Wilbon's comments.

Posted by: corkczar | May 5, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

i dunno if that's a compliment or an insult. But yeah, I did. Whether or not I still do depends on if I can peddle my next book.

Looks like some great minds were thinking the same way about Wilbon's comments.

Posted by: corkczar | May 5, 2008 4:15 PM


...and would this book be some form of Cummunist Manifesto?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 5, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

wow, i just wasted my life reading blogs. do you all realize that you are losers and lead probably the most boring lives ever? go out and get laid. i cant believe we root for the same team, you dumb ass clowns.

Posted by: dont worry about it | May 5, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

OK Cell block #34 your library internet access privileges are over for the week....

Posted by: Prison Librarian | May 5, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

crew wilbon, and his agenda, he's a know nothing pos. "Sean T. embraced the thug life and refused to distance himself from it". Sorry, I'm not forgiving, or forgetting that one.

Posted by: Greg | May 5, 2008 3:21 PM

As usual GREAT TRUTHS come out in country lyrics (at least until the Nashville Mafia turned it into the lair for banal Prettyboy Hats Acts):

"Jesus can forgive, but a Daddy don't forget" from the Collin Ray hit: "(On a roll in) Little Rock"

Posted by: corkczar | May 5, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Do you want to fight me, son?

Dad?? You post on RI?? How come you never told me?

Posted by: Greg | May 5, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

What do you mean there is NO chance I'm going to get an award for my pithy posts?!?

Isn't there an Awards Committee? I know I've seen them handing out awards before.

And TCCLs?

My gawd I've built a whole glass case in my home for my RI awards. It's got different shelves for different categories with different lighting.

"Best redundant redundancy post"
"Best Jasno Arse Kiss post"
"Best Jasno is a tool and I hate him post"
"Least informed fan"
"Best use of the word d-bag"
"Clearly smartest person on the blog"
"Clearly product of severely limited gene pool"
"Best maroon and black goggle"
"Most use of the phrase 'Kool-Aid drinking'"
"Cleverest word creator"
"Pithy and poetic"
"Cleverest nickname"
"Funniest post incorporating 80's music"
"Best repost of past posts"
"Crankiest cranky pants"
"Longest, unfunniest, dumbest"

Posted by: sfskin | May 5, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

do you all realize that you are losers and lead probably the most boring lives ever? go out and get laid.

Posted by: dont worry about it | May 5, 2008 4:20 PM

Hey, if we could get laid we wouldn't be here doing this. Some of us are ugly as sin and the rest of us have personality or attitude issues.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 5, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Not sure I read all the facts right:
Davis "overslept", but missed the entire day's worth of practice? Why didn't he just show up as soon as he could (or did he)? The dude must have been seriously hung over. Godd luck getting a huge contract now Fred.

Posted by: dlhaze | May 5, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Geez, seems like most of the blog coulda used some extra sleep ...

Posted by: AL, Zeke, etc | May 5, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

I don't really care what the team's record is this year, because I think it would be miraculous if the Skins were SB champs considering the circumstances. Even the Pats came up empty handed last year after an undefeated regular season, and I'm sure there was little solace for their fans when they came up short. Only Giants fans had the glory last year(and living in NYC, watching them revel certainly made me sick).

I just hope this team finds a way not to give away so many games, finding ways to lose. That is what just killed me the last few seasons. Way to many games that we should have won but...

If they lose, I just hope they're outplayed or over-matched. Give the rookie coach a year to get his feet wet and take it from there. Just don't lose so many games you could have won.

Posted by: amcginl00 | May 5, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Does

Posted by: How | May 5, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Greg, I'm telling you, there is nothing like have bonus points. They're the best :)

Posted by: AL, Zeke, etc | May 5, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

make a difference?

Posted by: a fake name | May 5, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Hey, where is everybody?

*Tumbleweed rolls through*

Man, Ashburn is dead at 4:30... Anyway, I guess I'll just sit here on the 50 till practice starts...(starts humming)

*Sprinklers turn on*

My roomie said this would happen.

Posted by: Fred Davis | May 5, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

++++wow. so, okay. you were smart enough to catch that error. so tell me something, smarty pants. why is it that you're proofreading a online transcript from Michael Wilbon if you're so smart?+++

You post anonymously, but you leave enough clues that we'll all be able to focus in soon on who you are.

Today's clue: You're in third grade. See in fourth grade, they teach that little rule about "an" being used before a vowel.

I LOVE your posts. Your setups are raw meat to a hungry Schnauzer.

Oh, and as a fourth grader could figure, my comments were about Jasno's spelling, not Wilbon's. Now drink your milk, eat your cookie, take your nap.

Posted by: Corkczar | May 5, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

al, I just don't get it?? The guy at the gas station looked at me like I had no pants on, which was true at the time, but only because it was hot out.

Posted by: Greg | May 5, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

look, i could care less how i come off on a message board. its not like something i post is going to be awarded "post of the year".

Posted by: | May 5, 2008 4:01 PM

If awarded, such an award would be unauthorized. We only present "post of the day," not post of the year. The Ad Hoc Subcommittee on weekly and monthly awards is working on the report to document their outreach, but until that work is complete, it is premature to discuss annual awards.

Posted by: Awards Committee | May 5, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

I'm with anon. I think chris larrY, cork, redcoat, and the rest of the people who try to act like they're running this blog are pathetic, as is this blog. The argument against anon posting is bureaucratic nonsense. The cutesy postings are inane. The football "analysis" is weak to nonexistent. Most of you geniuses can't spell or write -- and none of you are funny. I'm going to go try to find a real Skins blog. This one blows.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 5, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Do you need to have won "Post of the Year" in order to redeem your bonus points?

Posted by: Greg | May 5, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

The Fred Davis thing is really about Zorn. As coach, he's the leader and its up to him to get results.

I'm not a big fan of the Spaghetti Gang, but Vinny is right to let Zorn handle it his way. Of course, its not clear if Vinny actually did that ...

Posted by: AL, Zeke, etc | May 5, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

And a warm hello to you as well Double Anon!

Posted by: Chris larrY | May 5, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Anon, 'man up' in this context is merely a verbal challenge to actually stand behind your comments rather than throw them in and run away again. I'm way beyond my fighting days.

I would certianly challenge you to a battle of wits though, but I make a point of never hitting an unarmed man.

For good or bad, better or worse I try to maintain a consistent persona, handle, name, tag, whatever on here because I'm secure enough in myself to do that (Skippy blogging in the past notwithstanding).

On the basis of the persona I have here, several blog-peeps and even our esteemed Editrix were happy to meet me and share a beer, food, and convivial chat. As far as I'm aware I didn't turn out to be a total nut-job but perhaps you'd best ask them.

Many people 'up here' have used their blogging as a gateway to the far more satisfying face-to-face, fan-to-fan meets that this blog is a simulacrum for (there I go with those stupid elitist words again).

Are you 'up' for that? Are you 'up' for being accountable for the cowardly and pathetic jibes you throw at people, or would you prefer to stay safely hidden behind your keyboard projecting your insecurities and petty grievances onto others?

Come out into the real world; most people are actually pretty nice when you meet them, and not nearly as judgmental as it may seem in a place like this. Turn up to the get-together in June and introduce yourself, I'll stand you a beer and you can tell me - face to face - exactly what you think of me, I won't be offended, as I can tell you I've been calledfar worse.

Posted by: Redcoat | May 5, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Greg, not sure of all the rules surrounding bonus points, but having pants on at the gas station in states other than Arkansas is probably one of them.

You should probably go to the website, it has all the rules for the bonus points

Posted by: AL, Zeke, etc | May 5, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Today's clue: You're in third grade. See in fourth grade, they teach that little rule about "an" being used before a vowel.

Posted by: Corkczar

LOL, your so petty and worthless! More so than CL! (...and classless after your comments about Reed Doughty's son)

you're not a writer, your a below average out-of-work blog spell checker.

ROFLMAO

Wow, you are such a loser!


Posted by: Anonymous | May 5, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

DAVIS AND DOUGHTY

I have an idea. Instead of fining Davis, how about having him do community service at the hospital, and perhaps the ward, where Doughty's son was being treated while Davis overslept.

Posted by: Corkczar | May 5, 2008 3:31 PM


Great, more despicable comments from the Fascist loving Communist Corkczar.++++


'splain to the class, Lucy, why that's a "despicable" idea. I know you're wedded to your usual community service task of spearing roadside trash in your bright orange vest, but I'm serious.

If Davis is a good guy with responsibility issues, let him learn about responsibility by helping others who need it.

And furthermore...oh screw it, explaining something to you is like teaching quantum physics to a chimp.

Oh yes, in case you WERE wondering, I CAN top you each and every time.

And now a question for you...could you BE any more juvenile?

Posted by: Corkczar | May 5, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Wow Corky, your now below me!!!! Congrats....it took me months, but you only one afternoon! My hats off to you sir!

Posted by: chris larrY | May 5, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

There are way too many rules. You have to have your pants on, in a gas station outside of MA, in order to redeem these points.

Posted by: Greg | May 5, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Do you need to have won "Post of the Year" in order to redeem your bonus points?

Posted by: Greg | May 5, 2008 4:35 PM

We would like to be able to help you with this, but its beyond our mandate. You need to re-direct this to the Points Redemption Committee. Note that we do not award points and points are not an award ... even though points are "awarded," they are not the kind of award the Award Committee gives.

Posted by: Awards Committee | May 5, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Nice sentiments Redcoat. Good way to put it.
And remember guys, ITAA. (ignore the anon-a$$)

Posted by: dlhaze | May 5, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

There are way too many rules. You have to have your pants on, in a gas station outside of MA, in order to redeem these points.

Posted by: Greg | May 5, 2008 4:41 PM

And your credit card, Greg. That's probably the most important thing.

Posted by: talent evaluator | May 5, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

++++here's what you do: apply for a teacher's license. take a bunch of test, ...++++--ANON

A "bunch of test"? Don't they have grammar books in your Mom's basement?

It's like freaking batting practice with you posting.

Posted by: Corkczar | May 5, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Corkczar,

Community Service for Oversleeping!

What kind of extreme fascist communist are you?!!

Why even bring up Doughty's son to make such a completely idiotic comment like that.

I have to agree.....DESPICABLE!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 5, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Then there was second-round pick Fred Davis. He couldn't sleep Saturday night because his roommate wouldn't shut up.

"You got your boiled shrimp, and your fried shrimp, and your shrimp scampi, and your shrimp ...."

Posted by: bigbassdrum | May 5, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

+++ i think those who prepare their post as such are either looking for two things..:+++ANON-4:01

You forgot the third. Punctuation and Grammar Humor. Say, are you a U.S. American?

Posted by: Corkczar | May 5, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

OK FOLKS ...

I HAVE A MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT SCHEDULED FOR THIS BLOG ON WEDNESDAY AT 3PM

(sorry Greg, its mostly not about your bonus points)

Posted by: AL, Zeke, etc | May 5, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

The signs usually say "No shoes, no shirt, no service."

So if we use Bill Clinton logic technically Greg you should have been fine. You should have gotten your gas and redeemed your bonus points.

Posted by: sfskin | May 5, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

"... and when their was no shrimp, we ate crawfish, and when there was no crawfish, we ate mud ..."

"You ate mud?"

"We ate mud."

Posted by: dcsween | May 5, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse

"No shoes, no shirt, no service."

Learn it, Live it, Love it!

(some Greg Bonus Points if you can name the movie reference)

Posted by: chrIs larrY | May 5, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse

..and would this book be some form of Cummunist Manifesto?

Posted by: | May 5, 2008 4:17 PM

And I thought Johnny Wadd was dead.

Posted by: Corkczar | May 5, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

"No shirt, no shoes, no diiiiiiiice. Yes, thank you, Mr. Hand."

Also, I'm with dlhaze, time for a good old-fashioned ITA.

And Corkczar, you're thinking of Johnny Depp ... and he's not dead, he's French.

Posted by: dcsween | May 5, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

You forgot the third. Punctuation and Grammar Humor. Say, are you a U.S. American?

Posted by: Corkczar | May 5, 2008 4:49 PM


ROFL

No such thing as a U.S. American, Moron!

A little redundant....ya think?!


Look everyone it's one of those United States Americans!


Posted by: Anonymous | May 5, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

And Corkczar, you're thinking of Johnny Depp ... and he's not dead, he's French.

Posted by: dcsween | May 5, 2008 4:58 P

I think you're incorrect 'sween, but I am led to believe that he spends a lot of time in Vanessa Paradis, does that count as being French?

Posted by: Redcoat | May 5, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

I'm with anon. I think chris larrY, cork, redcoat, and the rest of the people who try to act like they're running this blog are pathetic, as is this blog. The argument against anon posting is bureaucratic nonsense. The cutesy postings are inane. The football "analysis" is weak to nonexistent. Most of you geniuses can't spell or write -- and none of you are funny. I'm going to go try to find a real Skins blog. This one blows.

Posted by: | May 5, 2008 4:32 PM


In the words of Peter Venkman: "I'm gonna MISS this guy."

Posted by: Anonymous | May 5, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Not to get too picky Greg, but exactly how much did you expect from bonus points gotten for answering a question: "Jay Schroeder"

Posted by: AL, Zeke, etc | May 5, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Most likely my only comment of the day. The way the blog has dissolved to insulting one another is flat out sickening, especially when you read about Doughty's son and GOOD minicamp information. This blog gets good(useful about team development) and decent(useful to help understand individual player situations/morale) information, and yet the bloggers dissolve into fighting one another. This is genuinely sickening to me.

Another thing - if Davis needs an attitude adjustment, being a candy striper or similar in any ward of a hospital would be useful for him to realize how lucky he is and to take advantage of what he has. I'm sure that's what was meant with Corkzar's comment.

We all know that either JLC doesn't edit his stuff, or whoever does needs to go back to school for spelling/typos. Someone commenting on the obvious should not be metaphorically shot down; it's ludicrous and reduces the morale of the blog.

As a final aside: everyone on here is at least semi-anonymous because there is no extreme registration that mandates you put your real name on these posts. WTF cares if someone remains completely anonymous; it's not much different than if they had a handle. Although, I'd prefer a handle simply so we can know which post is from which anon.

Just my opinon, but could we at least agree to be a community, and agree to disagree amicably. When someone types something that you can't understand the purpose of (Corkzar's comments for example) wouldn't asking be better than automatically attacking? JMO

Posted by: Karen | May 5, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Just give it up anon, it's getting a bit like watching a dog trying to walk around on two legs. Face it, you're just not quite up to this.

Never heard of the Central or Latin American peoples?

Posted by: Redcoat | May 5, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

++++For good or bad, better or worse I try to maintain a consistent persona, handle, name, tag, whatever on here because I'm secure enough in myself to do that (Skippy blogging in the past notwithstanding).+++--REDCOAT

You aint' Skippy, skippy. Don't make Skippy send Floyd after you.

Posted by: Skippy! | May 5, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Don't worry Skippy, I know I was but a feeble impersonator, trying to fill the time between your effluential musings.

Posted by: Redcoat | May 5, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

U.S. Americans...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WALIARHHLII

(Proud to be from SC)

Posted by: SCSkins | May 5, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Hey, what about Poland? they forgot Poland!!

Posted by: Dubya | May 5, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Redcoat,

sorry gotta agree with anon.

I have heard the term North American, Central American, Latin American, African American, Native American, and I'm sure many more but....United States American?


Never....say it out loud....it sound really stupid....like most of Corkczar's post.


Corkczar was being petty and small.

Posted by: Redboat | May 5, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Oh, C'mon guys, you ALL read the draft previews on Fred Davis as soon as he was drafted by the Skins and from what they all said, he was generally considered a real "sleeper" pick.

Posted by: Fred Davis - A real "Sleeper" | May 5, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Saw this over the weekend. Wow!!!

http://www.brightcove.tv/title.jsp?title=1438490562

Posted by: AL, Zeke, etc | May 5, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

My prayers are with the DOUGHTY family, I know that is not easy when your child is sick. STAY STRONG!!!!!!

Posted by: DB | May 5, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Redboat, I think you'll find that Corkczar's comments were actually typed inironics .

Posted by: Redcoat | May 5, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

We are not the anon posters. No way, no how, no siree!

Posted by: not jjwilson, not sams3 | May 5, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

" ... WTF cares if someone remains completely anonymous; it's not much different than if they had a handle. ..."

Posted by: Karen | May 5, 2008 5:04 PM

First off, tremendous use of WTF. I'd only ever used it where the "w" was for "what" ... my eyes are now opened the the new possibilities, including not only "who", but also "why" and "when" and "where" ... HTF did "how" lose out on this deal?

Second, someone commented earlier about how it would be simpler if anons were "1" and "2", etc. Not all anons are bad, but by my count, there is at least one anon who is creating (and thus drawing) alot of flame (ITA!), so I think the request is that that anon distinguish himself/herself from the other anons. Still, perhaps the better idea would be to ITAnon.

Posted by: dcsween | May 5, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

I simply cannot watch Miss Teen SC enough.

It's absolutely one the greatest cures for a bad day.

Personally I believe that it is funnier than the such as 'Don't taze me bro.' and other African countries.

Posted by: sfskin | May 5, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Well I'm going to take my cranky pants out of here for the day. All good wishes and prayers to the Doughty and Snyder families.

And to the anons, come on in 'be' someone on here, staying anonymous only gets your impact diluted!

Posted by: Redcoat | May 5, 2008 5:23 PM | Report abuse

I always thought sam3 was a fairly civil blogger, less so for jjwilson###. [Or, at least, sam3's comments on substance are something I tended to agree with.]

Posted by: dcsween | May 5, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

I don't think sams3 is any of today's anons.

Posted by: unwegistered | May 5, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Redboat, I think you'll find that Corkczar's comments were actually typed inironics .

Posted by: Redcoat | May 5, 2008 5:13 PM

First, you say he's right.

Now, you claim he was trying to be ironic?

sounds like back-peddling.

No worries, I'd just be careful defending corkczar's comments.

Posted by: Redboat | May 5, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Redcoat | May 5, 2008 4:36 PM

*Clap* *Clap*
*Clap* *Clap*
*Clap* *Clap*


*Clap**Clap**Clap**Clap**Clap**Clap**Clap**Clap**Clap**Clap**Clap**Clap**Clap**Clap*

Posted by: Anonymous | May 5, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

HEy Redcoat,

what is inirionics?


Why is it that the people that spell and grammar check others are the one's that need the most help.


Call it Irony?!

ROFLMAO

Posted by: butters | May 5, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

50 cents gets chain jacked while performing on stage. Look at the bottom riight. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDNq4tZUCKg

Posted by: Anonymous | May 5, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

I assume the chance of potentially losing millions of dollars would be a good enough incentive for Davis to adjust his sleeping patterns... I bet he'll have enough up-downs and laps assigned in training camp to ensure he's so tired that he will always go to sleep early ;->

Posted by: Siris | May 5, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Corkczar,

Are u serious?!

Community Service for oversleeping?!!

Posted by: skins420 | May 5, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

"I assume the chance of potentially losing millions of dollars would be a good enough incentive for Davis to adjust his sleeping patterns ... "

Posted by: Siris | May 5, 2008 5:37 PM

I read today about LaDanian Tomlinson considering retirment ... at age 30. Unlike Fred Davis, however, he already has earned many of the millions under his first and SECOND contract in the NFL.

Admittedly, thinking about what 9 years might mean to 20-something Fred Davis seems like almost twice his lifetime ... but the thought of being able to retire in your thirties with tens of millions ... that might just make me want to get up EARLY.

Posted by: dcsween | May 5, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

beep! beep!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 5, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

fake beep beep

Posted by: dcsween | May 5, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

"No shoes, no shirt, no service."

Learn it, Live it, Love it!

(some Greg Bonus Points if you can name the movie reference)

Posted by: chrIs larrY | May 5, 2008 4:55 PM

"Fast Times at Ridgemont High"; spoken by Brad to Spiccoli and his surfer gang

Posted by: jcook | May 5, 2008 5:59 PM | Report abuse

first line by the surfers; second line by Brad (Judge Reinhold)

Posted by: jcook | May 5, 2008 6:00 PM | Report abuse

surfers, stoners, whatever - they are probably anon posters here now.

Posted by: jcook | May 5, 2008 6:02 PM | Report abuse

A total whitewash by the Skins.

Who wants to start a pool on when Davis gets arrested first?

Posted by: B. Lloyd | May 5, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

What's the exchange rate on RI bonus points?

Posted by: kost52 | May 5, 2008 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, had to go do Talking Pts. Will Leitch is a friend! For instance, wouldn't a friend know that if you had no sense of smell (a bad thing when you live with a cat)?

Posted by: Cindy | May 5, 2008 6:11 PM | Report abuse

I work for The Post and I don't understand bonus points. I tried to cash some in for movie tix and am still waiting.

Posted by: Cindy | May 5, 2008 6:17 PM | Report abuse

I'm confused, Cindy, which of the two of you is hard of smelling? You or Mr. Leitch?

Posted by: dcsween | May 5, 2008 6:18 PM | Report abuse

All I can say is "What a Contrast?". If the Clayton story about the chatty roommate is true then we need to terminate the roommate---whoever he is--for being a girl. Althouth it could be that new Smoot-wannabe kids who plays corner. as for Doughty it's hard not to be a big fan---what a lousy deck he's had with his son and trying to replace Taylor and all the touchiness of trying to do your best but having what many, many people have said is the best defensive back they've ever seen as his predecessor--he's done such a mature and honorable job one feels proud of him as a Redskin.

Posted by: Cookie | May 5, 2008 6:18 PM | Report abuse

I seethe with anger.

I spew venom at you all.

But it is myself I am really angry at.

Posted by: AngryAnon | May 5, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Nice Jcook! Nice!

Posted by: chris larrY | May 5, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

I've just started dating a girl who can't smell. On our first date she told me she couldn't smell and that I could fart all I like.

Posted by: kost52 | May 5, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse

marry that girl!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 5, 2008 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Kost -- that'll go over big on Vanuatu. Geelong reamins unbeaten ...

Posted by: AL, Zeke, etc | May 5, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

People who lack one sense often make up for it with other senses that are keener. So Kost, be careful of what you say, she might actually be listening.

Posted by: AL, Zeke, etc | May 5, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

That's what she says now. . . .

If you guys get hitched, her sense of smell and decorum will miraculously heal.

Posted by: farstriker | May 5, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Haha, unfortunately her ears work fine.

Yeah, rolling along, still only playing at about 60% but it's still enough to get the win. Going back to last season, including post-season, we've won 26 of our last 27 games.

Posted by: kost52 | May 5, 2008 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Will Leitch is the one.

Posted by: Cindy | May 5, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone else think that the identity of the mysterious roommate might in fact be none other than our new motor mouthed CB. Just think of a night of Justin "J.T." Tryon going on and on about how he is going to take every major wide receiver out of a game.

Might cause a fella to miss a few practices. If this is the case could we not use him as a secret weapon. Remember how LT (the original one) would send hookers to the rooms of an opposing running backs the night before a game. We could send JT.

On a side note, if you were married to a running back and he played badly against the Giants back in the day, you know like he was real tired, looking back would you be angry?

Posted by: Hughes | May 5, 2008 6:48 PM | Report abuse

hey, little empathy over here for the SJ Shark fan

Posted by: AL, Zeke, etc | May 5, 2008 6:55 PM | Report abuse

Greg, you are not alone. I, too, have no idea how to redeem my Post Points.

Posted by: Lisa | May 5, 2008 6:58 PM | Report abuse

So where does Fred Davis rank? He can't hold a candle to Ronaldo

"Brazil striker Ronaldo says he's sorry, embarrassed and ashamed about his highly publicized encounter a week ago with three cross-dressing prostitutes, calling it the biggest mistake of his life."

I just want to know, exactly which one of the 'mistakes' is Ronaldo referring to?

Posted by: AL, Zeke, etc | May 5, 2008 7:34 PM | Report abuse

So where does Fred Davis rank? He can't hold a candle to Ronaldo

"Brazil striker Ronaldo says he's sorry, embarrassed and ashamed about his highly publicized encounter a week ago with three cross-dressing prostitutes, calling it the biggest mistake of his life."

I just want to know, exactly which one of the 'mistakes' is Ronaldo referring to?

Posted by: AL, Zeke, etc | May 5, 2008 7:34 PM


Not wearing his contact lenses.

Posted by: kost52 | May 5, 2008 7:56 PM | Report abuse

"No shoes, no shirt, no service."

Learn it, Live it, Love it!

(some Greg Bonus Points if you can name the movie reference)

Posted by: chrIs larrY | May 5, 2008 4:55 PM

I think it actually is ...
No shirt, no shoes, no dice.
Learn it, Know it, Live it!

Posted by: Matt | May 5, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse

So where does Fred Davis rank? He can't hold a candle to Ronaldo

"Brazil striker Ronaldo says he's sorry, embarrassed and ashamed about his highly publicized encounter a week ago with three cross-dressing prostitutes, calling it the biggest mistake of his life."

I just want to know, exactly which one of the 'mistakes' is Ronaldo referring to?

Posted by: AL, Zeke, etc | May 5, 2008 7:34 PM

http://www.missourinet.com/gestalt/go.cfm?objectid=B9A4D244-E893-FFA4-14E9A456708ABCB9

There are some things that are just plain stupid and this one by Royals' starting pitcher John Bale ranks up there. Frustrated by his recovery from a dead shoulder, Bale took on a Cleveland hotel door in a fight...the result?...a broken hand.

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Davis was not the only one with a rough weekend.

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 5, 2008 8:25 PM | Report abuse

I stand corrected! Thanks Matt...great line, great scene great movie!

Posted by: chris larrY | May 5, 2008 8:29 PM | Report abuse

Jeff Spicoli: This is U.S. History, I see the globe right there.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 5, 2008 9:07 PM | Report abuse

But after watching Jones participate in his first minicamp over the weekend, the Cowboys owner certainly didn't sound like a man afflicted by buyer's remorse -- or any sense of perspective. Jerry spent a lot of time discussing Jones' "makeup" before launching into an awkward description of the former Arkansas running back's posterior.

"He's got one of those nice bubble butts," said the owner, who was attempting to point out that Jones (5-10, 207) shouldn't be considered a scatback.

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ESPN has rest of article.

Question: is this the funniest or creepiest quote ever to come the "Crypt Keeper" Jerry Jones? LOL

He sounds like a backhills prison warden pre-vert. ROFL

Posted by: Anonymous | May 5, 2008 9:08 PM | Report abuse

Sorry forgot to put my name on the 9:08 Post

Posted by: Anon | May 5, 2008 9:09 PM | Report abuse

F*ck you all.

Posted by: Jack's Kids | May 5, 2008 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Me too on the 9:07. Anon #2.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 5, 2008 9:11 PM | Report abuse

gross...weird....

Posted by: chRIS larrY | May 5, 2008 9:12 PM | Report abuse

"....the Cowboys owner certainly didn't sound like a man afflicted....."

Yeah he did! A man afflicted with Man Bubble Lovin'!

Posted by: Hippoanonymous | May 5, 2008 9:15 PM | Report abuse

Not wearing his contact lenses.

Posted by: kost52 | May 5, 2008 7:56 PM

This was a hilarious story, made only more so by the fact that USA Today published the story with a picture of Cristiano Ronaldo.

Posted by: SMACK | May 5, 2008 9:16 PM | Report abuse

Do you think the union will try to bar Jerry from coming into the locker room?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 5, 2008 9:20 PM | Report abuse

Yea the players-union outlawed Man Bubble Hunt years ago.

Al Davis and Jerry Jones haven't been the same since.

Posted by: Hippoanonymous | May 5, 2008 9:32 PM | Report abuse

I like BIG Butts and I can not lie,

Dem utha bruthas can deny...

Posted by: Jerry Jones | May 5, 2008 9:38 PM | Report abuse

This was a hilarious story, made only more so by the fact that USA Today published the story with a picture of Cristiano Ronaldo.


Posted by: SMACK | May 5, 2008 9:16 PM

Maybe he was one of the cross-dressers? Wouldn't surprise me!

Posted by: kost52 | May 5, 2008 9:49 PM | Report abuse

Ha, hadn't thought of that! He probably has a bubble butt too.

Posted by: SMACK | May 5, 2008 10:00 PM | Report abuse

Holy Cow!

Wrath of the Anons is upon us.

Good job, Redcoat. You keep slinging those arrows. I got your six.
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Still too scared to 'man up' anon? I didn't hear from you last week, just a few shouts from behind your mom's skirt while you ran back in the house to change your underwear.

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Now that is funny!

Posted by: Chia Pet | May 5, 2008 10:03 PM | Report abuse

I wonder what Jerry would come out and say about Rabach's "makeup".

Posted by: kost52 | May 5, 2008 10:10 PM | Report abuse

As a final aside: everyone on here is at least semi-anonymous because there is no extreme registration that mandates you put your real name on these posts. WTF cares if someone remains completely anonymous; it's not much different than if they had a handle. Although, I'd prefer a handle simply so we can know which post is from which anon.


Posted by: Karen | May 5, 2008 5:04 PM

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I could not disagree more, Karen.

Remaining "anon," provides refuge to the spineless poster.

If anons could not remain anons they wouldn't say half the ridiculous stuff they do.

The type of anon I am referring to lacks the courage to put a "name" to his/her acerbic comments; which is pathetic.

Posted by: Chia Pet | May 5, 2008 10:14 PM | Report abuse

Good job, Redcoat. You keep slinging those arrows. I got your six.

how do u sling an arrow?

Aren't archers backline guys?

What are you hiding in the bushes behind him?

I think he needs you more at 12 o'clock than 6!

-Chicken Pet

Lol sorry j/k

Posted by: Anon#OU812 | May 5, 2008 10:17 PM | Report abuse

The type of anon I am referring to lacks the courage to put a "name" to his/her acerbic comments; which is pathetic.

Posted by: Chia Pet | May 5, 2008 10:14 PM


Puh....LEEEEEz!

Most the "reg" hide behind more than one name or go anonymous when it suits them!

Much like yourself!!!

Hypocrisy!

Posted by: I broke my Chia Pet and founds its full of ..... | May 5, 2008 10:21 PM | Report abuse

SPANK

Posted by: prison librarian's mother | May 5, 2008 10:29 PM | Report abuse

For what's it worth, the DCExaminer is reporting that Fred Davis was partying at H20 Saturday night....that would definitely explain why he overslept.

But it's time to close the door on this non-story.

Posted by: Lisa | May 5, 2008 10:46 PM | Report abuse

Hey all-

I am surprised by the spike in anonymous haters or provocateurs or whatever you want to call them - RI is a community after all, and even if you are never ever going to meet up and have a beer with the RI crew at the Nats game or whatever, if you are afraid to put some sort of handle by your posts and engage the group, you'll get a lot less respect and listening than if you don't. As an example I used to think that kmpd4 was an extreme kool-aid drinker but after reading for a while figured out that he knew a lot more about the Redskins and football than most certainly including me (still slightly strong on the kool-aid for me kmpd4 but of course I am also a Bengals fan so I understand).

To anon nation: take some pride in your opinions, join the community, it is pretty low risk - you can always change the handle you picked and pick a new one, no one will be able to tell. I think that it is vastly easier to be thought provoking and get a good conversation with a regular ID than as some overly hostile anon comment...many of us had much more repartee with the Barnos of the world even with his slightly off comments knowing that it was a real person on the other side, while we have ITAd a lot of anons who might have tons of insight. Even if we never meet, I really think RI is a better place for the iconics on it (Redcoat, P.Diddy, CL, NatePDX, kmpd4, Lisa, Kost, dlhaze, Corkczar, DCsween, 4-12, strong newcomer Chia Pet, even or especially that Bong/BigSmurf dude or whatever his name is), plus many others that have made me curse and love the Redskins with their comments. I actually think that many of the anon dudes have some good points, if crudely stated at times, and get us out of our usual ruts (e.g., is Jasno the devil incarnate, or should he be nominated for a pulitzer) but they don't get the play that they would if the started to participate like community commentators instead of dropping anon-bombs on the RI as a whole.

To RI nation: I can't believe I am saying this but slightly wishing Mr. Registration was back. I think (Cindy are you listening) the level of decorum has fallen with the move back to the old system, although I was pretty firmly opposed to registration at the time. Plus the damn thing never worked thanks losable type


Meanwhile I join many others in passing on thoughts and prayers to families Cerrato and Doughty.

Zornskins

Posted by: zornskins | May 5, 2008 11:02 PM | Report abuse

ITA

Posted by: Anonymous | May 5, 2008 11:17 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, forgot my name.

Posted by: Anon # 84622JkPyWe55 | May 5, 2008 11:22 PM | Report abuse

well said zornskins...

Posted by: chRIs larrY | May 6, 2008 12:02 AM | Report abuse

Have we solved the Fred Davis roommate mystery yet? Could Ronaldo provide any insight into the situation?

Posted by: P Diddy | May 6, 2008 12:04 AM | Report abuse

zornskins sounds like a new handle.

but your talking about being around pre-registration days.

Is this another alias, new handle, Anon Lite?

I hear what your saying across the board but can you see the hypocrisy in your own words?

Why did you change your name and what was it before?


Most people choose to go Anon because people (like most of the "regs" you mention) alienate any newcomers.

Guys like Redcoat, corkczar, and Curzon are more concerned with correcting peoples grammar and spelling than hearing people opinions or humor.(It is Soooooo 20th century chatroom! lol Grow up!)


The reality is I think the "regs" are making a breakthrough.

They're moving past the Denial and Depression Stages of JLC sucking at his job the last year and his inevitable departure.

Now, they're moving right into the Anger Stage.

With some work I think the Acceptance Stage is right around the corner.


To be both Blunt and Frank without accusing you personally, Like JLC has done, most of you arseholes chased away all the good people that like to blog here.

So, you kinda REAP WHAT YOU SOW, y'know!


Posted by: Puff, Puff, Give | May 6, 2008 12:41 AM | Report abuse

Awwww. Vinny was homesick in college.

Posted by: Vinny's college Roommate | May 6, 2008 12:46 AM | Report abuse

So, you kinda REAP WHAT YOU SOW, y'know!

Posted by: Puff, Puff, Give | May 6, 2008 12:41 AM

Puff, You can go through all of my post and not find one where I correct anyone's grammer.

I joined this blog in January and like alot of anon poster's do not care for Jasno take on the Skins. I have found a "community" of fans here that has grown on me. Being from girls country (NM) there are not many Skins fans out here.

What I dislike is the venom that comes from both "id" posters and "anon" posters. What I like is to know that when I am talking to a certian poster, that I know who I am talking to, so would like to see an ID used.

But please find where I correct grammer, for I am not too good at this myself.

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 6, 2008 12:48 AM | Report abuse

Let me further say that I enjoy the wit and humor of both "id" and "anon" posters.

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 6, 2008 12:50 AM | Report abuse

Barno, is that you?

Posted by: c | May 6, 2008 12:51 AM | Report abuse

I think this is starting to verge on flogging me, and I really hope we don't go there.

Posted by: Eight Belles | May 6, 2008 12:53 AM | Report abuse

um, that was me...don't want to be a hypocrit....and i never correct spelling/grammar that would be ridickulous.....


we did have a blaw about grammar police way back when...

Posted by: chris larrY | May 6, 2008 12:53 AM | Report abuse

rip 8 bells, rip....

Posted by: chris larrY | May 6, 2008 12:54 AM | Report abuse

g'night id and anon posters alike, wherever you are!

Posted by: chris larrY | May 6, 2008 12:57 AM | Report abuse

I'm not important to zornskins, and that is okay.

Posted by: TDawg | May 6, 2008 1:03 AM | Report abuse

If you don't want to have a handle that's your choice.

It's hard to jibba jabba with an Anon poster, because you don't know which Anon poster you're speaking with. Being left out of jibba jabba may be why some Anon posters don't feel accepted, and part of this community.

What's the pro arguement for no handle?

Posted by: kost52 | May 6, 2008 1:04 AM | Report abuse

Sorry Curzon,

too many post to try any go back...I got no ax to grind.

I apologize if I have confused you with someone else and will humbly take your word for it.

Point being: The "regs" chased all the pretty girls away and now they're mad because all that's left is the fug-lies!
(Lisa, Karen, Cindy excluded - sorry if I left anyone out and sorry for the sexist analogy! lol)


Ok...I'm really not that sorry but you get the point.

Posted by: Puff, Puff, Give | May 6, 2008 1:05 AM | Report abuse

Yeah that's right, we have e's in our words now too.

Posted by: kost52 | May 6, 2008 1:06 AM | Report abuse

Yeah that's right, we have e's in our words now too.

Posted by: kost52 | May 6, 2008 1:06 AM

???

Posted by: Random statemant, what? | May 6, 2008 1:10 AM | Report abuse

Puff,

No problem on this end. Again, knowing who I am talking/blogging with helps.

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 6, 2008 1:11 AM | Report abuse

Yeah that's right, we have e's in our words now too.

Posted by: kost52 | May 6, 2008 1:06 AM


Ey den't thenk yeu went e's en ell ef yer werds, kest52.

De yeu?

Posted by: Puff, Puff, Give | May 6, 2008 1:18 AM | Report abuse

Haha nah Puff, just the ones I accidentally spell wrong.

Posted by: kost52 | May 6, 2008 1:32 AM | Report abuse

For what's it worth, the DCExaminer is reporting that Fred Davis was partying at H20 Saturday night....that would definitely explain why he overslept.

But it's time to close the door on this non-story.

Posted by: Lisa | May 5, 2008 10:46 PM

Good thing no one caped him.

Some nice women should school this young man on where and where not to go.

Posted by: mul | May 6, 2008 2:33 AM | Report abuse

You want the truth?
Fred Davis didn't check into another room because his roommate was loud.
He checked into another room to be with some chick he met.
That simple.

Posted by: Jake | May 6, 2008 2:45 AM | Report abuse

Now, you stop laughin right meow.

Posted by: Foster | May 6, 2008 5:14 AM | Report abuse

Now, you stop laughin right meow.

Posted by: Foster | May 6, 2008 5:14 AM | Report abuse

I just watch the race on Skins.com. That was too close to call but it looks to me that CP out lean Dirty Thirty.

Posted by: jm220 | May 6, 2008 7:13 AM | Report abuse

I will echo Zornskins good post earlier.

When I started blogging, I changed names, not knowing which I wanted/liked etc.. I quickly realized that you do get 'left out' when you dont keep a name at least long enough to establish your style.

If I changed my name, but still threw flags peeps would know.

But then again my name is tied to how I blog, so I doubt I would still throw flags.

But the point remains, anon's complain about 'regs' and being chased away etc...but if you really wanted to be involved, you could easily just keep a handle.

But it is my guess that you like the anon status so you cant be tied to your comments, which will draw the suspicion of most people here, regulars or passers by.

At the end of the day, if you wish to not be chased off, try keeping a name. Like others said, we like skippy for the comic relief even though he can/will rag on anybody here and anything skins or WAPO related. He has never been chased off.

Even BARNO, who sole purpose here is to rile people up, doesnt get chased off. I actually like being able to challenge his opinion.

But if peeps dont know who to direct anything to, they just won't... and thats that. So please dont complain about being chased away or left out, b/c if you truly cared, you could just keep one name.

Posted by: Zebra | May 6, 2008 8:17 AM | Report abuse

I killed the blog again.

JM, I watched the race. I wish they would have actually posted their times because everyone keeps saying they didnt know CP was that fast and that L2 had a good 40 time in the combine. But maybe Laron is slowing b/c of lack of conditioning moreso than CP being as fast as him.

Either way, dirty 30 is a MFing BEAST!

Gotta love the tats on his traps... (hehe) No Pain - No Gain

Posted by: Zebra | May 6, 2008 8:44 AM | Report abuse

Its nice to know that Lisa struggled with the "bonus point" system just like I did. I guess going forward, I'll refrain from answering questions that pay out in bonus points, instead only answering questions that pay cash.

Posted by: Greg | May 6, 2008 8:44 AM | Report abuse

I love participating in the discussion and wish for back and forth banter with my fellow RI regs.

Posted by: not anon | May 6, 2008 8:56 AM | Report abuse

I don't know Z. The look like they were moving.

Posted by: jm220 | May 6, 2008 9:08 AM | Report abuse

Greg, Lisa was talking about "Post Points" ... which is something WaPo came up with. Is that what you are talking about? I thought your beef was about redeeming the bonus points you won collectively from the blog in a contest where the correct answer was "Jay Schroeder."

I want to add my two cents on this meta-discussion about blog identities, anons, random flames, "what is blog v. what is column v. what is article?" (aka Jasno bashing), etc. ... specifically, snore.

I'm here for the football ... and abide (and participate in) the absurdity of jibba jabba in between football-related content ... the rest of it just takes itself too seriously.

Posted by: dcsween | May 6, 2008 9:25 AM | Report abuse

c'mon dcsweeny your making to much sense!

Posted by: chris larrY | May 6, 2008 9:28 AM | Report abuse

Well said Sween.

Posted by: Redcoat | May 6, 2008 9:31 AM | Report abuse

This is from this morning's update on the Skins site about the OTAs ... i.e., rookies go back to school and vets "man up" to do a day's work on the job of being an NFL player.

http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=656

Part of me LOVES how Zorn opens up his Zorny mind for Big Media ... which means we get a peep inside his head in ways we could never see through St. Joe or Grilliams. On the other hand, it feels like this sort of candor gives other outsiders (esp. other teams) that same view ... so I have a new appreciation for St. Joe's mode of operation.

Bottom line: Its all good and I'm only on my third cup of coffee.

Posted by: dcsween | May 6, 2008 9:31 AM | Report abuse

Do you think you'll be able to make 5/22 Sween?

Posted by: Redcoat | May 6, 2008 9:35 AM | Report abuse

From that Zorn chatter, this window into the "man" is why I used the term "man up" to veterans who all showed up for the "voluntary mandatory" OTAs.

"If you have a contract issue or you're disgruntled--there are a thousand reasons [to not attend OTAs]. But if you don't show up just because you didn't want to show up, I think that's wrong."

This tells me two things: (1) unlike seemingly every other team, we don't have any disgruntlement over contract or otherwise (or, at least, the guys are manning up to suck it up) and (2) Zorn is leading a group of guys for whom it is seemingly no big deal to have 100% participation. All the news trickling out of the Park suggests good Zojo and that the comraderie borne out of tragedy this past season is carrying forward.

Bottom line: I really do love how coffee makes me feel.

Posted by: dcsween | May 6, 2008 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Knowing that PFT is about rumors, still this article just left me saying DANM!!

WILD CLAIMS IN HARRISON CASE
Posted by Mike Florio on May 6, 2008, 7:01 a.m.
We were alerted last night to some eye-popping claims regarding the Marvin Harrison case made by Philly sports anchor Keith Russell during a Monday afternoon radio spot in Miami. And so we tracked down the audio, and we have given it a listen.

Appearing with Jason Jackson on WQAM, Russell said that his sources tell him that the guy who was allegedly shot in the hand after leaving Harrison's bar last Tuesday had come to the establishment to carry out a gangland-style "hit."

A "hit" on Harrison.

Seriously.

Russell said during the segment that the issue relates to Harrison's father, who is (per Russell) incarcerated, and that the supposed "hit" was in retaliation for something Harrison's father supposedly had done.

Media sources in Philadelphia tell us that the contention, which Russell apparently hasn't made on the air in his home market, is simply not true.

Russell also said that there are "people who are willing to do whatever is necessary" to keep Harrison from facing charges.

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 6, 2008 9:47 AM | Report abuse

Sween,

Great points. We would've never heard a peep from JOE on the Davis issue...which, would've made it a much bigger deal on RI. Zorny ( and I like the coined "Zojo" ) seems to be very open and the media seems to enjoy him. I wonder what he's like from Sept - February?

Posted by: CLEGG | May 6, 2008 9:51 AM | Report abuse


Sorry TDawg - one of many important omissions - just cited a few that leapt to mind

I'm not important to zornskins, and that is okay.

Posted by: TDawg | May 6, 2008 1:03 AM

Posted by: zornskins | May 6, 2008 9:54 AM | Report abuse

"... I wonder what he's like from Sept - February?"

Posted by: CLEGG | May 6, 2008 9:51 AM

I just hope he doesn't get too cocky (or falsely modest, like Belichek) after the long undefeated streak ...

[Also, I believe sfskin is the one who coined Zojo ... she may have thought of one or two additional ones ... Zomentum maybe?]

Posted by: dcsween | May 6, 2008 9:58 AM | Report abuse

From the WaPo,
"Daniels, who is entering his 13th season, competed in power-lifting competitions this offseason and said he bulked up to 290 pounds after playing at 273 last year."

The guy was a strong run stopper to begin w/. I wish he'd make Chris Wilson compete in the power lifting comp w/ him, then we could put Wilson on the edge and Daniels on the inside for good.

Posted by: CLEGG | May 6, 2008 10:00 AM | Report abuse

"post points", "bonus points", I can't follow either one.

That is a WILD story about Harrison. I can't see Roger Goodell being pleased with that story making the rounds.

Posted by: Greg | May 6, 2008 10:05 AM | Report abuse

CLEGG, there is a DC son on the roster, DE Kevin Huntley (he went to De Matha) who I've secretly attached my high hopes to. He has played in NFL games (in Oakland ... where at least the defense was good ... under the pirate Ryan twin ... hopefully learning a thing or two from DE Derrick Burgess). Huntley is 6'7" and 270 pounds. Yes, he's a journeyman, but the Skins' D coordinator is a line coach by training, so maybe this could be his year. But like I said, my high hopes for him are a secret.

Posted by: dcsween | May 6, 2008 10:05 AM | Report abuse

CLEGG;

I am thinking the same about Wilson. I think he proved he is a good rush specialist. But slick moves only get you so far. A couple 20 lbs would help him to be able to fight past a long-armed OT when they try to force his speed rush far to the outside. He could also slip the arm under and cut inside with a power move to throw off the OT.

Strahan is one of the best at getting the Tackle leaning outside and cutting under with the rip.

Posted by: Zebra | May 6, 2008 10:09 AM | Report abuse

"post points", "bonus points", I can't follow either one.

That is a WILD story about Harrison. I can't see Roger Goodell being pleased with that story making the rounds.

Posted by: Greg | May 6, 2008 10:11 AM | Report abuse

Zebra,

I think the question about Wilson is can he stop the run or hold up against the run if he is the starter and plays on more than 3rd down. That's why Daniels has been manning the end position even though it is time to move him inside.

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 6, 2008 10:20 AM | Report abuse

Have Daniels train Wilson, Heyer, Montgomery, and Alexander. Get the young cats strong like ox.

Posted by: Greg | May 6, 2008 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Curzon;

That would be nice, but I guess I am thinking Wilson will always be a pass rush specialist.

But Carter, who looked horrible against the run two years ago, was stout last year. My guess is he could cheat inside or outside the blocker this year b/c he knew Rocky or someone else would fill in his gap, vs two years ago when Holdman wasn't filling the gap so Carter stayed home on the block tried to fight through it and got run over.

Posted by: Zebra | May 6, 2008 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Zebra,

Good point on the effect of Carter's play when he knew the LBs were going to be doing their job. Personally I like Wilson and would like to see him get more playing time.

More than that, I like Daniels in the middle. He would give the Skins the much needed pass rush from inside.

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 6, 2008 10:53 AM | Report abuse

I am do tired of people saying that athletes should act like men because of the size of their contract or the money they make. Money does not make you a man or responsible if it did we would not send people to jail we would just give them a check.

Posted by: great one | May 6, 2008 11:03 AM | Report abuse

zorn's approach is refreshing ...i think the team feels energized by the up tempo approach.... I think the media will like this guy, he doesn't have, our hasn't learned the "football speak" answers.... i like that.... oh and.... football is my religon....

Posted by: Old School | May 6, 2008 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Hopefully we will get more push from the DLine.

Maybe Gholston and Montgomery's jump from rookie to last year wasnt the only one.

Also, with Blache as the coach, you would think his schemes (coming from Chi town) would focus more on getting pressure from the Dline.

Carter had a solid year in sacks and run stoppage. I think we used Gholston as a end last year. They all seem like they can move around the line. D Evans, Bochotti, Daniels and prolly someone else has that ability to play inside and outside.

I think maybe we just need to try to confuse the o line a little more this year with stunts, fake blitzes and fire zone blitzes where the D end drops out into coverage,.

Posted by: Zebra | May 6, 2008 11:08 AM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: talent evaluator | May 6, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

RI regulars think they know football.

And that, my friends, is hilarious.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 6, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Anon posters on the other hand, know everything, of course.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

And how do you know there are 'regulars' on RI, anon? Oh, that would be because they consistently post under the same 'handle, name, tag, etc.' wouldn't it? The very thing you so feebly rail against. The irony of it all...

Posted by: Redcoat | May 6, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Oh but wait! There isn't any registration right now, so....I might be Redcoat or I might not ....

In fact here's a thought, what if none of the 'regulars' are actually posting here and it's just a bunch of anons posting against a bunch of posters spoofing the regulars?

Interesting.

Posted by: Redcoat | May 6, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

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