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Check This Crazy Stuff Out

Just saw this video of Jason Campbell. Pretty wild stuff. From what I am told, he actually did this on the second take.

I've been pretty swamped, so if you guys have already been chatting about this all week, and I am the last one to the party, sorry. But at the risk of the ridicule, here it is:

Okay, who thinks this is real? I am just enough of a rube to actually buy it. Others here in the media room, especially The Mad Bogger, Dan Steinberg, the Brandon Lloyd of NFL experts, say no flippin' way. Calls BS on it. Sez it's totally fake. I got JC's back, I'm buying in, he wouldn't deceive us, would he?

By Jason La Canfora  |  August 1, 2007; 6:17 PM ET
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Cool stuff.

Posted by: Redcoat | August 1, 2007 6:21 PM | Report abuse

It blew my mind.

He's got an ABM for an arm.

Posted by: Stumped | August 1, 2007 6:23 PM | Report abuse

ESPN has a list of the top 50 current players who are Canton bound - not a single Redskin made that list but Matt 'effin' Leinart is on there? Oh, CP did make the Odd Man Out list :)

Posted by: David | August 1, 2007 6:26 PM | Report abuse

We were having a pretty high-brow conversation on the previous post, but I guess it's time to move on.

Posted by: Cindy | August 1, 2007 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Do you think - maybe - that footage has been 'tampered' with?

Posted by: Private Obvious | August 1, 2007 6:30 PM | Report abuse

If it's on the Internets, you can be certain it's the real deal. :)

Posted by: Cindy | August 1, 2007 6:31 PM | Report abuse

All the others are, well, fantasies.

Posted by: Stumped | August 1, 2007 6:33 PM | Report abuse

Speak for yourself Cindy; my mind was in the gutter, but looking up at the stars....

Posted by: Redcoat | August 1, 2007 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Oh, this one's for you SMACK. It's the last time our teams matched up.

And of course it was a few days after Miami had turned over Washington, which was ALSO the last tinme those teams met.

Posted by: Redcoat | August 1, 2007 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Hey CynCity, no more trips to see Dermot for a while I hope? And shouldn't you be shuffling off home by now?

Although I suppose you could be 'blogging in your spare time' - where IS Cload?

Posted by: Redcoat | August 1, 2007 6:45 PM | Report abuse

so fake

Posted by: faker | August 1, 2007 6:54 PM | Report abuse

I thought that whole Tiger Woods golf ball thing was fake, but it turned out to be real, too...

The other NFL Fantasy Files look kinda sorta fake, but the Braylon Edwards one looks very real. This could be real...

JLaC, you're the only one here who can like, you know, ask the man if it was real... Hint, hint.

Posted by: P Diddy | August 1, 2007 6:54 PM | Report abuse

Hey Diddy, in a feeble attempt to seem cooler to my grown-up kids I joined Facebook and 'friended' Nate. Are you really on there too?

I feel like at any moment Chris Hansen is going to turn up and drag me out of the house as everyone on there is about 1/10th my age!

Posted by: Redcoat | August 1, 2007 6:58 PM | Report abuse

It's like good cleavage. you don't ask if it's real, you just enjoy it...

Posted by: Skeletor | August 1, 2007 7:00 PM | Report abuse

I think I'm going to celebrate the blog birthday tonight with a Budweiser or two.

Posted by: kost52 | August 1, 2007 01:33 AM

Zebra- Got to be a flag on Kost here. Budweiser? You live Down Under mate, with all those fine beers, plus the many various fantastic wines, and you're drinking American pisSJK water? lol

Posted by: 4-12 | August 1, 2007 08:23 AM

Let me clear this up, I was drinking (not sipping) Bud, because I've recently set up an ongoing Blog on my MySpace page, to keep track of all the different beers I've drank (4 beer minimum). So I was just experimenting, that's excusable isn't it?

KK - I'm not sure about quality, sometimes I think my taste buds work about as well as my eyes (I'm colour blind), so generally it's quantity over quality, which is why I'm branching out with the Blog tracking system I mentioned above.

Charlie - No one is Australia drinks Fosters, it's almost an export only beer.

Zebra - It wasn't so much for a beer game, but I was 'warming up' for a game of ten pin bowling. From the way I bowled, I guess I 'warmed up' a little too much!

Posted by: kost52 | August 1, 2007 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Bugger, I should've split them up.

Posted by: kost52 | August 1, 2007 7:02 PM | Report abuse

VB all the way Kost?

Take a look in the previous thread. SMACK destroyed my (feeble) joke version of an alleged Gough Whitlam put-down. Shame on him.

Posted by: Redcoat | August 1, 2007 7:04 PM | Report abuse

Still the best use of the word 'bugger' ever!

I don;t suppose they ever showed them outside Oz.

Posted by: Redcoat | August 1, 2007 7:07 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, everyone loved that ad here. I guess I can understand why other countries wouldn't show it, especially knowing the true definition of bugger.

Posted by: kost52 | August 1, 2007 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Well I'm off to mow outside now that the temperature has dropped to a pleasant 95F.

See you later guys.

Posted by: Redcoat | August 1, 2007 7:17 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, saw the joke, don't beat yourself up about it, I think people over looked the punchline because it's not out of the ordinary to call SMACK that! hahaha

Yeah it's generally VB. Vitamin B for those who drink it, and Vomit Bombs for those who don't. I'm trying to expand my horizons though, show a bit of diversity.

Posted by: kost52 | August 1, 2007 7:23 PM | Report abuse

That YouTube clip is about as real as my nose.

Posted by: Michael Jackson | August 1, 2007 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Kelli Johnson from Sportsnet asked one of the Skins media people about the YouTube clip and he said that it was real....Jason accomplished the feat on his second take.

Posted by: Lisa | August 1, 2007 7:28 PM | Report abuse

That clip is about as real as our singing talent.

Posted by: Milli Vanilli | August 1, 2007 7:28 PM | Report abuse

That clip is about as real I am the real Lisa.

Posted by: Lisa | August 1, 2007 7:30 PM | Report abuse

That clip is about as real as my chances of being a shut down corner.

Posted by: Carlos Rogers | August 1, 2007 7:31 PM | Report abuse

That clip is about as real as my boobs.

Posted by: Jenna Jameson | August 1, 2007 7:33 PM | Report abuse

That clip is about as real as MY boobs.

Posted by: Gregg Williams | August 1, 2007 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Going back to when Aussie beers first started appearing regularly in the UK, first came Swan, then Tuohy's, and Foster's came a while later as I recall.

Then of course the horrible 'XXXX' and it all went pear-shaped. VB never made it over.

Posted by: Redcoat | August 1, 2007 8:02 PM | Report abuse

that clip is about as real as the cleveland steamer I'm about to hit this chica with

Posted by: Anonymous | August 1, 2007 8:14 PM | Report abuse


Me own brother emigrated to Adelaide about 40 years ago and I've visited him five times. The first time I was bowled over by the taste and variety of beers. The last time, they all tasted pretty much the same and -- aside from Coopers -- not much better than the swill they brew here. He complains about the taste of the Aussie beers, but we're both getting to be old f*rts so maybe be just can't taste the gusto any more.

Like your beer blog idea. Hope you'll summarize your conclusions in a few paragraphs.

Posted by: KK | August 1, 2007 8:22 PM | Report abuse

And of course it was a few days after Miami had turned over Washington, which was ALSO the last tinme those teams met.

Posted by: Redcoat | August 1, 2007 06:40 PM

Redcoat, this game was nothing compared to the Leon Lett Snow Bowl Thanksgiving game. I was down with my family, all Fins fans. It was horrible...being with the family i mean. And too bad about the game.

And the more I think about your joke, the more I like it. I was just focusing on "member" looking for humor in all the wrong places.

Posted by: SMACK | August 1, 2007 8:22 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, if I had to guess I'd say that because all the beers you named are 'state' beers XXXX-QLD, VB-Vic, Tooheys-NSW, Swan-WA etc. they decided to develop one beer which they'd use to focus on exports.

Posted by: kost52 | August 1, 2007 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Redcoat, this game was nothing compared to the Leon Lett Snow Bowl Thanksgiving game. I was down with my family, all Fins fans. It was horrible...being with the family i mean. And too bad about the game.

Posted by: SMACK | August 1, 2007 08:22 PM

Thanks SMACK, how could I have forgotten one of ESPN's 25 all-time great NFL blunders!!

The reason I remember the 2003 Cowboys game so well is that it got me out of jail with the yet-to-be Mrs Redcoat's parents (Skins fans both) after they had sat in silence through the last part of the Redskins debacle against Miami the week before.

Posted by: Redcoat | August 1, 2007 8:41 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: cdubb | August 1, 2007 8:41 PM | Report abuse

KK - I get what you mean, I think that there are still plenty of smaller breweries which make a quality beer. Guess you just have to find a good bottle shop, which stocks them though.

Posted by: kost52 | August 1, 2007 8:43 PM | Report abuse

cdubb - That was a good read, was a surprisingly positive article! Doesn't look like we'll be finding out who shot LaRon!

Posted by: kost52 | August 1, 2007 8:50 PM | Report abuse

So Redcoat, you owe a good part (SJK) of your noogie (SJK) to Leon Lett. That's kind of touching (SJK). You should write him.

Posted by: SMACK | August 1, 2007 8:55 PM | Report abuse

Is this sort of like Elway throwing the seed through swinging tires? I wonder what Fitzgerald thinks? :)

Posted by: periculum | August 1, 2007 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Breaking news
Bridge collapse in Minneapolis...I don't recall any of you being there or from there. This looks horrific.

Posted by: Cindy | August 1, 2007 9:18 PM | Report abuse

I've just remembered, it was Zebra who dated a Welsh (not Irvine) girl.

Sorry SMACK, as you were bro.

Posted by: Redcoat | August 1, 2007 06:26 PM

I dated the Bristol girl, that almost counts, right?

Posted by: SMACK | August 1, 2007 9:22 PM | Report abuse

I was (pleasantly) surprised by how positive the Banks article read. Also, I'm not surprised that Gibbs might despise training camp. Also explains why Heyer might have been called up to the front of the line by Joe Bugel (read: Joe Gibbs).

Elaine Lalanne. Seems like one of those no-brainers for a woman not to take her husband's name.

Re: Joey Porter and his new team ... well, Joey Porter anyway. I knew about how there was some problem with his two dogs, but I only recently learned that they killed a miniature horse. I was paying REAL close attention to last season. How did I miss dogs killing a horse? Anyway Redcoat, while the Skins can be concerned about Jason Taylor, something tells me Joey Porter won't be able to stay out of trouble in the heat of the heat this summer.

Posted by: dcsween | August 1, 2007 9:26 PM | Report abuse

This bridge collapse is horrific...

Posted by: P Diddy | August 1, 2007 9:29 PM | Report abuse

Sorry SMACK, aging memory. I must have transposed bloggers,and countries, apart from that I was dead on target!

'sween, I'm surprised they kept the dog thing quiet, but then all the talk on Porter was about the Las Vegas incident. That was bad enough.

Posted by: Redcoat | August 1, 2007 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Jason LaC, not that we don't miss you (and how you used to have time to keep up with us), but you are a little late to the party with this youtube video. Your very own blog had this at 9:45am this morning in the CP/tendinitis thread.

Posted by: dcsween | August 1, 2007 9:31 PM | Report abuse

Yes, Redcoat, I am one of Nate's "friends". Facebook is amazing. It's my new favorite diversion on the Internets.

Posted by: P Diddy | August 1, 2007 9:32 PM | Report abuse

i didn't think it was real at first but after watching it like 10 times i think it's real.

you could actually do this at home. i just tried it with two tennis balls. (where the fck did you get two tennis balls you haven't played tennis in 8 years?)

and it's even easier with a football since it's bigger than a tennis ball. try it.

do what JC did with (non-fragile) stuff and look at what happens when the two collide. does one go farther or do the start going perpendicular to the path that they were going on...

Posted by: dealer | August 1, 2007 9:32 PM | Report abuse

I think we need a guest blog from the intern...

Posted by: P Diddy | August 1, 2007 9:36 PM | Report abuse


Posted by: Anonymous | August 1, 2007 9:37 PM | Report abuse

If you like Facebook, CynCytybook is gonna rock your world. All I need is some funding....

Posted by: Cindy | August 1, 2007 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Neil Rackers did his stunt on live TV on NFL Network a few years back when he was at the Pro Bowl. I'm pretty sure those Fantasy Files clips are all real. And very bloody SJK impressive!

Posted by: P Diddy | August 1, 2007 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Well, what is real is that the footsball were caught. We need those receivers!!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 1, 2007 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Facebook is soooo juvenile.....

Posted by: Anonymous | August 1, 2007 9:44 PM | Report abuse

Is the intern covering 867-5309/Jenny by Tommy Tutone?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 1, 2007 9:45 PM | Report abuse

I bet JC cracks out that trick play in the 3rd game of the preseason. One to ARE, one to BLloyd. But Portis is up the middle untouched for TD on the hand-off.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 1, 2007 9:48 PM | Report abuse

Jason LaC HAS been busy ... tomorrow's article (about Portis) is up. One part jumped out at me:

"... and running backs coach Earnest Byner aims to keep Portis in good spirits. "A lot of the healing process is mental," Byner said. "We want to make sure he stays upbeat, too, and stays emotionally challenged and feels good about himself.""

In that recent Portis interview that someone linked to recently (the one where Portis continually refers to himself in the third person and says that he does best if he has a chip on his shoulder), what struck me was that he DID have a chip on his shoulder and that he did NOT sound very upbeat. C'mon, Clinton, find the vital core. We NEED you man. Maybe Aleutian throat singing and/or some epiphany (must -- resist -- Simpsons -- movie).

The article also spins a tale of ongoing 'concern' about Santana. I had this horrible flash (kind of what AMMTS must be experiencing during his season of Washington sports gloom) to the seasons that Shaun Alexander and Steve Smith had last year after banner years the preceding season. The horror. Makes me want to go out and attack a miniature horse.

So is Derrick Blaylock any good?

Posted by: dcsween | August 1, 2007 9:56 PM | Report abuse

I am DONE with coverage of the training camp. I just don't want to read any more of it! THIS from Gary Fitz on the Skins site:

"Cornelius Griffin tumbled to the ground after working his way through the drill, holding his knee. He went into the athletic trainers' tent for treatment. Fifteen minutes later, he had returned to the practice fields with his linemates."

The only training camp news (which means only reporting of injuries!) that I want to read is OTHER teams.

That bridge collapse in Minnesota looks horrible. The bridge was only 40 years old. Why is it that the roads the Romans and Incas built are still operational when the U.S. spends a gazillion dollars in highway money and has collapses like this one in Minny or the Big Dig tunnel collapse in Boston?

Sorry to be a downer before bed. Panties.

Posted by: dcsween | August 1, 2007 10:06 PM | Report abuse

The only good thing to come out of that bridge disaster is that it seems that an amazingly small number of people were hurt/killed.

Posted by: Redcoat | August 1, 2007 10:06 PM | Report abuse

Santana practiced tonight and was "fired up" on the field. According to reports it was a very spirited practice.

Posted by: Lisa | August 1, 2007 10:08 PM | Report abuse

What is Facebook?

Posted by: kost52 | August 1, 2007 10:08 PM | Report abuse

The before shots of that bridge do not inspire confidence. It looks like a road deck perched atop some balsa wood stilts. Hopefully the total casualties are not much worse than currently reported.

Posted by: SMACK | August 1, 2007 10:11 PM | Report abuse

Any news on how Rocky is going? I haven't heard his named mentioned, and I'm not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing!

Posted by: kost52 | August 1, 2007 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Not to get on a soapbox or anything, but what the heck...there are a whole lot of 40-60 year old bridges in this country, but we'd rather spend Federal money blowing stuff up overseas than dealing with the important things (education, health care, and transportation infrastructure) at home...

I mean, Halliburton and Bechtel couldn't make a ton of money rebuilding freeways and bridges at home?

And I'm not just talking about the big bridges that are on all the postcards, either.

Posted by: P Diddy | August 1, 2007 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Kost, the report from camp tonight is that Rocky is looking good...(he was interviewed).

Posted by: Lisa | August 1, 2007 10:23 PM | Report abuse

P Diddy, the disbursal of money, resources, and damn-giving needs to experience a 180 degree reversal. What are the odds of that happening, even with a new government. Feh.

Posted by: SMACK | August 1, 2007 10:27 PM | Report abuse

After a tour of selected "news" in team sites in the NFC East, I feel a little better. Terry Glenn is out for a good while. Flozell, Marco Columbo, and (former Skin OT and Saunders' playbook learner) Jim Molinaro are hurt. Pukes punter competition has no good surprises for them. Amani Toomer is hurt. Kiawanuka is not transitioning well. LBM has been picked a few times. McNabb and Reid are publicly disagreeing about how long McNabb has to wear a knee brace. Eagles look like they won't even report injuries until after the first scrimmage.

Re: not hearing anything about Rocky Mac ... it occurs to me we haven't heard much about the D at all. Lots about the WRs and TEs, but not the D. As it should be. This mainly means that the injury bug has not been biting on that side of the line.

Posted by: dcsween | August 1, 2007 10:30 PM | Report abuse

"I got JC's back, I'm buying in, he wouldn't deceive us, would he?"

Apparently he would and did.

Posted by: mc | August 1, 2007 10:34 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Lisa!

That's good to hear, I think Rocky's importance has been a bit underrated. We gave up a lot of rushing yards to the weak side last season, if he can tighten that side up a bit, and maybe even be a blitz threat, it would help a great deal.

Posted by: kost52 | August 1, 2007 10:35 PM | Report abuse

Viscount Diddy, intentional neglect of the domestic infrastructure (esp. sewers and drinking water) has been going on for a while, well before Iraq. In the second year of the projected budget surplus, a bipartisan group of Senate nerds who were actually into governing (guys like Voinovich, Harry Reid, and the ones on Senate Env't and Public Works who paid attention to the "public works" part of the equation) got focused and tried to get attention paid to infrastructure. The death of that effort was not Iraq, but the first round of tax cuts. It was the next round that really send the deficit in the wrong direction. Iraq is just icing on the cake of "drowning the baby" and destroying the federal government with debt (thanks Grover Norquist).

Frankly, at this point, I'd prefer to hear about additional training camp injuries of our upcoming opponents, esp. in the AFC North.

Posted by: dcsween | August 1, 2007 10:37 PM | Report abuse

I wasn't in the mood to run my mouth (or should it be fingers??) too much last night, and I was too tired to upload the gazillion photos I took. But, I managed to fake my way out of a couple of meetings yesterday afternoon and sneek out to Ashburn for the evening.

Speaking of which, I need to publicly apologize to my son (who can't read yet) for going to camp without him, which means I'll have to go back out there before next Wednesday. Grrr.... I just couldn't stand the thought of L2 finally running around out there without me being able to witness it.

I said all of that to say, I took a lot of pictures, and you guys are welcome to take a look at them:

Bear in mind that I just got a new camera that I'm still learning how to use, I didn't have a tripod (which it turns out would have been really useful), and it was hella difficult to see at times in that bright sun (so some of the pics are a bit overexposed). But, here's the photo chronicle of my visit to Ashburn.

Oh, and there is a bonus shot of a certain someone in a certain pair of plaid shorts that we keep hearing about.

Posted by: JustMe | August 1, 2007 11:00 PM | Report abuse


I saw that you are going to get your little one out to camp tomorrow, yes? I don't know if you'd thought about it, but please pack a small cooler for the 2 of you with plenty of water. Sitting out in that heat for hours is pretty draining, and you will both sweat up a storm, so you both need the water to stay hydrated. There's an occasional breeze, but it's not much to speak of.

Posted by: JustMe | August 1, 2007 11:06 PM | Report abuse

I have to say, based on what I saw at yesterday's practice, St. Joe and Weird Al would be a fool not to use Mike Sellers as much as possible. He caught everything thrown his way, and mowed down any and everyone in his path, whether it was a running or pass play. I lost count of the number of times I saw him dragging 3 or 4 defensive players with him. The man is a true beast (note the Head Hunter towel hanging from his hip in one of the pics).

Posted by: JustMe | August 1, 2007 11:14 PM | Report abuse

dcsween - It's not AFC North, but it's one of our opponents-

Randy Moss left the New England Patriots practice Wednesday with an apparent upper leg injury. During an 11-on-11 passing drill about halfway through the team's afternoon session, the only practice of the day, Moss reached into the end zone for a ball thrown by Tom Brady. The pass was incomplete and Moss immediately went to the sideline. A trainer applied an ice pack and wrap to the wide receiver's upper left leg, and Moss didn't return to practice. The ice pack and wrapping were taken off before the team left the field, and Moss walked off under his own power. Patriots coach Bill Belichick had a brief discussion with head trainer Jim Whelan and left the field without talking to reporters. No announcement was made about Moss' condition.

Posted by: kost52 | August 1, 2007 11:21 PM | Report abuse

JustMe: Neat pics! Looks like JC took some ankle-wrapping advice from Andre Carter.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 1, 2007 11:24 PM | Report abuse

Regarding the quarterbacks, JC looked pretty good. He looked pretty sharp and accurate yesterday. Of course, not every pass was perfect. But, I was really impressed with how he was very often able to place perfect passes into tight spaces.

Brunell actually looked pretty good as well. His passes weren't as well placed as JC's, but they weren't too far off and had a fair amount of zip on them (at least as much as you can expect from a dude in his mid 30s).

From there, the drop off was really evident. Todd Collins knew where to put the ball, but his passes just seemed to float to their destination. I heard a reporter refer to them as "wounded ducks" and I have to say that I agree w/ that (Jeremetrius Butler picked him off during one of drills). Bramlet and particularly Palmer just looked extremely shaky. I don't know how Palmer could even make the practice squad. That's how bad he looks.

Posted by: JustMe | August 1, 2007 11:31 PM | Report abuse


I was thinking the same thing re: the ankle wrapping. :-)

Posted by: JustMe | August 1, 2007 11:33 PM | Report abuse

Believe it or not, there were actually hecklers in the damn crowd. SJK They pissed me off so badly. SJK I just couldn't believe these guys (one small bunch) went all the way out to Ashburn to repeated yell to Carlos Rogers and The Reaper that they needed to "STEP UP" and to Ladell that he needed to "HOLD ON TO THE BALL!" They also yelled some unkind things to Ade Jimoh and loudly referred to other players as puzzies. SJK 2.5 hours of that was really tiresome.

You would think if they were going to be loud and heckle players on the team, they could come up with a variety of material. Hearing the same nonsense over and over was the pits.

Being vocal is cool (like the guy who kept yelling his favorite players' names and following the name with "Yes SIR!," or who kept thanking Mark Brunell), but please don't go out there to make an a_s_s (SJK) of yourself. It kinda ruins it for other fans.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 1, 2007 11:46 PM | Report abuse

That was mine. Forgot to "sign" it.

Posted by: JustMe | August 1, 2007 11:48 PM | Report abuse

Why would you go to be negative?

Posted by: kost52 | August 1, 2007 11:54 PM | Report abuse


That's what I was trying to understand as well. It seemed to me to be an enormous waste of energy.

Posted by: JustMe | August 1, 2007 11:57 PM | Report abuse

Okay, been busy all day/night -

That JC clip is nasty - If its real, that would be up there with one of the coolest things I have seen. If its not - the person who thought of that is a genius. Nice clip!

But if in fact it is real - then JC is our Saviour!

Go 'Skins!

Posted by: Big Murf | August 2, 2007 12:00 AM | Report abuse

Awesome pics JustMe
Now I really want to get out there and see some more plaid shorts

Posted by: RBD202 | August 2, 2007 12:25 AM | Report abuse

From Wise's article

Or this from DCSween: "Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, what did you think of the play?"

nice press sween

Posted by: RBD202 | August 2, 2007 12:29 AM | Report abuse

thanks justme! for the pics as well. i was kinda afraid to take my bazooka...but i think i'll be okay.

Posted by: dealer | August 2, 2007 12:52 AM | Report abuse

Also, props to P. Diddy's quote in Wise's article.

Posted by: bangkokben | August 2, 2007 12:55 AM | Report abuse

Can anyone give me the play by play on the clip. For the Kingdom of Siam/youtube deprived portion of the blog.

A quick summary would be fine.

Posted by: bangkokben | August 2, 2007 12:58 AM | Report abuse

p diddy got quoted too. but wise didn't use his "name"...that's what you get for having a famous name...
wise must not like p diddy.

btw, if we all put our heads together i think we can figure out who wrote that Hemmy/Hammy post...maybe a project for december...

MVDame, i LOVE the idea of this day in RI history...

Posted by: dealer | August 2, 2007 1:00 AM | Report abuse


i thought that you were credited with the post.

Posted by: bangkokben | August 2, 2007 1:04 AM | Report abuse

bang, for you my brother:

scene: astro turf at skins park. JC has 2 men playing receiver. one on his left and the other one on his right.

jason looking at the camera says: everyone watching at home check this out 2 receivers, 2 footballs, 1 choice.

*then turns his back to the camera hikes the ball and the two recievers head straight downfield. then he throws 2 balls one after another. the second one collides with the first one in mid air and the balls fall in to 2 receivers waiting to catch the balls hands.

*jc then turns to the camera and says this*

Jc: Pick me!

Posted by: dealer | August 2, 2007 1:08 AM | Report abuse



Posted by: bangkokben | August 2, 2007 1:10 AM | Report abuse

bang, unfortunately that wasn't me. i'm envious of the way that person wrote. i didn't read that post until today. but i knew the gist of it from other comments.

Posted by: dealer | August 2, 2007 1:14 AM | Report abuse

Of course, Wise quoted me out of context :-) I was being sarcastic and altogether mocking of the sky is falling panic that every August fills the hearts of 'Skins fans. Those of us who were around back in the day remember quite well the pinheads calling Ken Beatrice after the 1-3 1991 preseason calling for St. Joe to resign. Yeah, right.

In any event, Wise was probably told by his editor (ahem!) to not use my pseudonym because it might be confused with the real deal. I suppose I could have resorted to a pseudonym like "Bored to Tear in Seattle", but that wouldn't be anywhere near as fun.

Posted by: P Diddy | August 2, 2007 1:17 AM | Report abuse

Great pics JustMe! Thanks for posting!

Posted by: P Diddy | August 2, 2007 1:20 AM | Report abuse

i used to hate ken but miss him now...too bad he had to endure the norv years...

Posted by: dealer | August 2, 2007 1:21 AM | Report abuse

I miss Ken, particularly given our current world of shock jock radio guys who don't know anything about the sports they talk about.

Posted by: P Diddy | August 2, 2007 1:23 AM | Report abuse


Glad to know you weren't the one. The first time I read that I remember throwing-up in my mouth. Now it's hilarious.

Ken B. was way before his time. Didn't he have sports radio in the early 80's an WMAL?

Posted by: bangkokben | August 2, 2007 1:40 AM | Report abuse

Sorry y'all, but I feel like I'm taking crazy pills: you're kidding about thinking any of the Fantasy clips are real, right? OK, sorry, the joke is on me . . .

(I do like the Braylon Edwards one though -- looks damn real [SJK -- did I use that right?].)

Posted by: stevie in gp | August 2, 2007 1:52 AM | Report abuse

Like I said, Rackers pulled his stunt on live TV on NFL Network when he was at the Pro Bowl a couple of years back. I don't doubt kickers can do "stupid ball tricks". After all, what do they do all practice anyway?

Posted by: P Diddy | August 2, 2007 1:58 AM | Report abuse

I seriously doubt they get so good that they can hit the posts four-for-four, Diddy (or even however many takes it requires to get four-for-four). Penn and Teller taught their viewers a lot about "Live" TV in a stunt/trick they pulled some years ago. In the immortal words of their assistant (SNL's Victoria Jackson, I believe): "I lied!"

It looks digital to me. Again, I feel silly discussing it, but JLa did make it the topic of the post . . . and I dig communing with the West Coast peeps this time of night.

Posted by: stevie in gp | August 2, 2007 2:09 AM | Report abuse

If y'all want some more youtubin' pleasure of JC, check this out:

With these selections, you'd almost forget that last year was his first real NFL primetime starting experience. I think it's clear that he is the real deal, we just need some ol' hogs to keep him safe and our receivers and backs to stay healthy and hold onto the ball.

I may get slapped for saying this, but as a guy living in Indiana-- I think that the Skins' offense could be as potent as the Colts this year (and we all saw that they didn't have to have the best D-Line or secondary to go all the way). Does anyone else see the potential?

Posted by: TDawg | August 2, 2007 2:13 AM | Report abuse

Who said Wise could come into OUR house?!

"But this is a new day, people. Chin up. Go back to your jobs. Step away from the Internet."

And for the love of SJK, if I wanted this advice, I'd get it from my boss. Sheesh.

Posted by: Paps in Manila | August 2, 2007 2:14 AM | Report abuse

Let's not bother trying to compare our offense to the Colts (not that I really want to see JC calling audibles 85% of the time). We play in the NFC East - smashmouth football. Just run it up the gut.

Posted by: Paps in Manila | August 2, 2007 2:18 AM | Report abuse

The pics are great JustMe! Awesome!

What is Carlos Rogers wearing on his legs??

They look like leg warmers from the 80's!

Posted by: kost52 | August 2, 2007 6:13 AM | Report abuse

Looks like a quiet night on the Blog. Still here Kost?

Posted by: Redcoat | August 2, 2007 7:43 AM | Report abuse

Thanks for the pics, JustMe....awesome!

Posted by: Lisa | August 2, 2007 7:43 AM | Report abuse

Hey JustMe, did Double-Move practice any new "I've just been turned inside out and dumped on my a$$ (SJK) by the receiver but he dropped the pass" victory dances?

Posted by: Redcoat | August 2, 2007 7:45 AM | Report abuse

The pictures are great, I really should try to get out there as it's only about 2 miles from my house - I wouldn;t even be booing or nothing.

Posted by: Redcoat | August 2, 2007 7:46 AM | Report abuse

Well, this morning I read a story in the paper on Gaither. Terrell Suggs described his level of play as "shocking" (in a good way) and then compared him to Flozell Adams. Other coaches and players also were quick to praise the kid out of MD.

Question: why is it that the Ravens scouting and personnel people are light years ahead of ours? Do you think Redskin Park is also filled with fifty 13-inch black and white TV's because the Space Cowboy simply hasn't received that memo yet?

I'm not sayin' Gaither is going to turn into a 15-year pro bowler, but when you have a local kid like that available for a 5th round pick, you TAKE HIM. I mean, are the Redskins trying to make us believe that they value a 5th rounder that freakin much when just last year they gave away 2 mid round picks for Duckett and 2 mid round picks for Lloyd???

I'm glad the coaches like Heyer, another MD kid, but as a big Terps fan, he is nowhere close to Gaither in terms of talent and ability. Please reference the GT game last year when Heyer was spun around like a top and dropped to the turf on both 3rd and 4th downs late in that game...

Just sayin'

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | August 2, 2007 7:55 AM | Report abuse

Great pics JustMe. Thanks for taking the time to post them.

RB do you need a hug or something man? Damn (SJK) every F day you come on with nothing but negative things to say. Can't you wait until the season starts at least. Hell with the hug (SJK) pulling the hammers out. DOUBLE SMACK TO THE BACK OF YOUR DAMN HEAD!!!!!

Posted by: jm220 | August 2, 2007 7:59 AM | Report abuse

1 home playoff game in 17 years?

do you need anything else?

I already told you guys that I'm looking for a 9-7, 10-6 year. THERE!

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | August 2, 2007 8:03 AM | Report abuse

Thank you RB. The balance in the force is back. You almost turn me to the dark side.

Posted by: jm220 | August 2, 2007 8:13 AM | Report abuse

Sorry to detour via soccer for a moment but this is for JLaC, did you see the 9 year old kid that Manchester United just signed? He's unbelievable!

Posted by: Redcoat | August 2, 2007 8:15 AM | Report abuse


Posted by: jm220 | August 2, 2007 8:40 AM | Report abuse

Ricky Bobby,

Not to nit-pick but...

Redskins playoff history in the last 17 years!
Date Game Result
Jan. 14, 2006 NFC Divisional Seattle 20, Washington 10
Jan. 7, 2006 NFC Wild Card Washington 17, Tampa Bay 10
Jan. 15, 2000 NFC Divisional Tampa Bay 14, Washington 13
Jan. 8, 2000 NFC Wild Card Washington 27, Detroit 13
Jan. 9, 1993 NFC Divisional San Francisco 20, Washington 13
Jan. 2, 1993 NFC Wild Card Washington 24, Minnesota 7
Jan. 26, 1992 Super Bowl XXVI Washington 37, Buffalo 24
Jan. 12, 1992 NFC Championship Washington 41, Detroit 10
Jan. 4, 1992 NFC Divisional Washington 24, Atlanta 7
Jan. 12, 1991 NFC Divisional San Francisco 28, Washington 10
Jan. 5, 1991 NFC Wild Card Washington 20, Philadelphia 6

So what you're really trying to say is only one home playoff game in the last 15 years and 188 days.

Negativity can sometimes skew our perspective.

Posted by: bangkokben | August 2, 2007 8:41 AM | Report abuse

Are we at all surprised that Ricky Bobby comes on here hating on the Skins AGAIN while praising another team????

Posted by: Lisa | August 2, 2007 8:43 AM | Report abuse


I really don't like being on the "dark side". However, it's impossible for me NOT to be when you see some teams (I'm sorry, but the Ravens.. YACK) doing close to everything the right way and some other teams (US) doing close to everyhing the wrong way. I mean, is there really any other way besides the "wrong way" to describe 2 playoff appearances (only 1 at home) in the last 17 years? We aren't the Cardinals, we're the Redskins for crying outloud.

I just wish this team/front office/owner would take a step back and try to emulate other NFL fanchises (like the Ravens)... and I'm not just talking about coaching/player personnel, etc. (HINT: I'm referring to the way the Danny treats his fans, but I'm sure you already knew that).

Side note: I have just recently turned into one one of the biggest Orioles optimists ever. I love everything they've done recently (Trembley, McPhail, their play, the young pitching, etc). I know O's fans have been given false hope before, but it honestly feels like things have changed, finally, for the better.

I'm waiting for the same to happen with the Skins, but we'll see. I was the most optimistic after the limited offseason spending before '05, the very successful season that followed, and even after the Seattle playoff loss to end that year. But then Lloyd, Arch, Duckett, ARE (even though I love him he was darn expensive), Ryan Clark, coaching changes, bye bye draft picks, 30% increase on tickets happened. Instead of building off that successful season, they blew the entire thing up and it still boggles my mind.

This offseason was very much like '05, and I'm happy about that. They also have 6 of their picks next year and have stayed relatively quiet. But I'm not going to say they are even remotely close to really turning the corner until they can do these things in repeated off-seasons AND when they have the money to spend and spend it wisely, not recklessly.

We'll see...

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | August 2, 2007 8:44 AM | Report abuse

Ricky Bobby,

There was an article last year (I believe the Sun and not the Post) about the Ravens scouting. The Ravens do their own scouting and do not subscribe to any combine. For the most part, they do a good job, except when it comes to drafting quarterbacks. They have not had great success there. One of the good research bloggers may be able to find the article and post a link to it.

Posted by: Mark (in 21132) | August 2, 2007 8:46 AM | Report abuse


It's the same schtick that Nike was using around World Cup time a few years back with the Brazil team. They were featuring Ronaldinho and some other players from teams they sponsored doing some ridiculous things in warm-up/ tricks and graphics manipulation...

Posted by: pfunk | August 2, 2007 8:47 AM | Report abuse

Has anyone read Brandon Lloyd's blog on This doesn't seem like the biggest bust in free agent history. I hope he catches 60 balls this season...

Posted by: RichInTampa | August 2, 2007 8:47 AM | Report abuse

RB how many Super Bowls have the Ravens won? If you think they do everything right, one would think they would have at leat 6 rings by now.

We won't even start with the O's. When was the last time they been to the playoff. (not that I am a baseball fan) Maybe you think about being a B-More fan.

Posted by: jm220 | August 2, 2007 8:49 AM | Report abuse


good point... I stand correct. But it's still been an awfully long time.


Flag on the play for failure to remember your praise of the Ravens not so long ago. You, I, and everyone else on this board (no matter how sick it makes us) knows that the Ravens run a better ship. From their record (the obvious one), to player personnel, to scouting, to the draft, to their stadium and treatment of their fans, to the non circus environment, it's better and we all know it. That makes no one sicker than me.

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | August 2, 2007 8:52 AM | Report abuse

For those of us who workplace does not allow access to youtube, would someone describe the clip please? Thanks!

Posted by: Dsmac | August 2, 2007 8:52 AM | Report abuse

The burgundy shaded sunglasses point of view would also like to point out that only 6 NFC teams have made it to the divisional round of the playoffs in the last two seasons. Those teams are: The Redskins, Seahawks, Panthers, Bears, Eagles and Saints

Posted by: bangkokben | August 2, 2007 8:55 AM | Report abuse


One more thing - it all starts at the top. If Snyder learns how to be a good owner and manager of his football organization, then the probability of success for the skins is good. The Ravens had a good owner, and now they have another good owner. The new owner took Billick to the back of the woodshed and enlightened him. My hope for the skins is that Snyder will learn from Gibbs. If he doesn't, the skins will always have problems.

Posted by: Mark (in 21132) | August 2, 2007 8:56 AM | Report abuse

JLC, did you just call Steinz the "Brandon Lloyd of NFL experts"? For real!?!


I realize you probably meant that in a very complimentary and funny way, but if I was the Mad Bogger, I would be extremely offended. After bLloyd's 2006 season, I wouldn't want to be known as the "Brandon Lloyd" of ANYTHING!!

I kid... I kid...

Posted by: Bucktown Skins Fan | August 2, 2007 8:58 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Redcoat | August 2, 2007 9:01 AM | Report abuse


my point was to show you that even I can find optimism in something as dreadful as the Orioles...

I grew up Skins/O's and that will never change. I hate the Ravens with a passion, but do admire and respect the way they conduct business and run their organization.

I point out the Ravens most of the time strictly because they are right around the corner and I hate when things work out for them. You should know that I always comment on how I'd love for the Skins to be run like the Pats, Eagles, Steelers as well.

And by the way, how long have the Ravens been around? 11 years or something? That gives them at least 1 more super bowl than us during that time period, doesn't it? I'd also be willing to bet that they have also had 20-30 more meaningful football games in Nov/Dec/Jan over that time period as well.

Again, just sayin' that maybe we should stop being so stubborn and take some notes from the folks up in BMore, NE, Philly, wherever.

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | August 2, 2007 9:01 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Redcoat | August 2, 2007 9:02 AM | Report abuse

Jm220, AMEN!

Ricky Bobby, I don't remember ever praising the Ravens....where did you get that from?

Posted by: Lisa | August 2, 2007 9:06 AM | Report abuse


I couldn't agree more. What has always troubled me is how Gibbs bought into Danny's way of conducting business from day one. It's even more troubling to think that if his boyhood hero has bought into it and supports it, will there ever be someone able to convince him otherwise. I doubt it.

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | August 2, 2007 9:06 AM | Report abuse

I can't believe Wise wrote a column basically to the blog. That's really cool...and weird in a way as the media changes before our eyes.

Nice pics, JustMe. The page 5 pic of Cooley--he was coming to ask you if you know where Barno is to give him his dvd, right? I KNEW it....

Posted by: WrongDog | August 2, 2007 9:08 AM | Report abuse

How do you contact the Wash Po if you have a serious story to report?

Posted by: Question | August 2, 2007 9:10 AM | Report abuse

The Baltimore Ravens have played professional football since the 1996-7 season. In that time they have won one Super Bowl and have a post-season record of 5 wins and 3 losses. That's it. Eight games. Not 20 to 30! Better than the 'skins sure but also better than just about...everyone except the Pats.

In that sametime, the Dallas Cowboys have a play-off record of 1 and 5.

Posted by: bangkokben | August 2, 2007 9:14 AM | Report abuse

RB is on point in that the Skins need a better Front Office structure. AND there's nothing wrong with pointing out faults in family if it's constructive criticism.

Know this name: Ozzie Newsome

That's why the Ravens have a lot of talent and depth. That's why the Ravens are competing. That's why the Ravens are getting better instead of looking like a roller coaster from season to season.

I can't remember what his title is... G... Q... or G... X... something like that.

All I know is that "COACH" is NOT in his title.



PS -- I have us at 10-6. Yikes... I hate being an optimistic person by nature sometimes.

Posted by: Bucktown Skins Fan | August 2, 2007 9:19 AM | Report abuse


I was talking about 20-30 more meaningful games, not playoff games. There is nothing worse than being out of contention in November and December, and that has happened to us quite frequently over the last 15 years.


I could have sworn that you and I went back and forth one day on the Ravens, but maybe I'm mistaken. I'm not here to rile anyone up, just to share some banter and vent about Redskins football.


I'm intruiged by your desire to contact the Post? What's your serious story? Hopefully it's about Montgomery stuffing up the middle of the D line or something.

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | August 2, 2007 9:22 AM | Report abuse


I hear what you're saying but have to disagree with a few minor issues. The Ravens have only existed for the last 11 years so I can't count the miserable other four seasons where the 'skins were playing meaningless games by October.

But in Gibbs tenure of two horrid seasons out of three, the have been few meaningless games. Even when "we" were 6-10 there were meaningful games well into December because the whole NFC sucked. We just sucked worse. Last year about three meaningless games.

Posted by: bangkokben | August 2, 2007 9:32 AM | Report abuse

Thanks TD, I dig the Jason Campbell highlights. The two things I noticed are that he had way more positive plays than I remembered -- offseason + natural pessimism = faulty memory -- and that he looks legitimately fast out there, on bootlegs and scrambles. I forget, was he known at all for having decent speed out of college? I suppose it could just be explained by the fact that he was a first-year-starter running from first team NFL defensive linemen and 'backers . . .

Posted by: stevie in gp | August 2, 2007 9:37 AM | Report abuse

Re: the soccer playing kid. Great, that's all ManU needs along with Ronaldo: another endless-step-over-artist with a nine-year old's maturity . . .

Verdict: also fake.

Posted by: stevie in gp | August 2, 2007 9:48 AM | Report abuse

That is an interesting point!

Posted by: Hugh Gerection | August 2, 2007 9:49 AM | Report abuse

Ouch - I'm picking up on your sarcasm.

Posted by: stevie in gp | August 2, 2007 9:53 AM | Report abuse

Jasno finally shed some light on why the skins passed on Darwin Walker and Aaron Shoebel and Simeon Rice, because Danny Boy has a man crush on the Gap-toother strahan and is holding out some dollas to get his boy.

It'll never happen but goes to show the Danny's boys lack-o-football knowledge is always hanging around, doing push-ups in the corner, waiting for a chanc eto insert itself.

The Bears somehow landed Darwin Walker for a fifth rounder, re-signed Briggs, and come out of all those problems smelling like roses. Thats a sign of good football management. The skins go into every problem hole with a shovel and start digging deeper.

Posted by: Strahanded Pass Rush | August 2, 2007 9:57 AM | Report abuse


you make some very very good points about past incompetence by our owner and the bug eyed henchmen....however the slate in my mind was wiped clean when he lured gibbs back to restore the franchise... now we have made a few misteps along the way (Arch and duckett standout in my mind) i won't even start with the brunell repeated theme since i started on here is the franchise QB/coach combo... its a new ERA right now in front of your eyes we see where we go begining this season... its just some much easier to get the other pieces right if you get this right...the ravens win in 2000 is the exception to this rule and overall durring there 11 yrs is the reason they haven't been more consistent, their qb/offensive play has held them back, they do get and develope good players especially on d... franchises have MO's ours is to be aggresive and lean towards being a veteran team been that way since George Allen

I could go on and on, RB i hear you on many of your points....Its Jason campbell's show now the d will be fine much the offense improves is the difference maker this year.

I'm not sayn'.

Posted by: Old School | August 2, 2007 10:00 AM | Report abuse to Strahan. Maybe he's got another year left in the tank, maybe not. He's not worth another mortgage.

Posted by: D7 | August 2, 2007 10:01 AM | Report abuse

I would hardly cite the Bears as a paragon of front office virtue.

Posted by: P Diddy | August 2, 2007 10:07 AM | Report abuse

9:05 p.m. ET
You won't get the details from me--there's a reason the practice was closed to the public, after all--but Jason Campbell found himself as a wide receiver on one play during 11-on-11 work.

Campbell caught the pass for a 25-yard pickup--and he took a hard hit from a defensive back, too.

Does Campbell have a future as a wide receiver? "I would say ?No,'" Joe Gibbs said, laughing. "But he has the height for it."

Could we sees ome Randle-El to Soup trickery this year?

Posted by: Gary Fitz | August 2, 2007 10:13 AM | Report abuse

This is 100% fake, sorry guys. You can tell by the speed of the balls after they collide. It reminds me of the Lebron powerade commercial. You'd be surprised what we can do in the edit room these days.

Posted by: dg | August 2, 2007 10:15 AM | Report abuse

stevie in gp, did you just slight Cristiano Ronaldo? I hope that was just a joke about his demeanor and not his talent... cause he's one of the best players in the EPL right now.

Just sayin... back to your regularly scheduled football talk.

P Diddy, I think daBears are a good front office in that they run a consistent ship... even if coal inserted into that FO's anoos would turn into diamonds overnight.

Posted by: Bucktown Skins Fan | August 2, 2007 10:18 AM | Report abuse

" ... I just couldn't stand the thought of L2 finally running around out there without me being able to witness it. ...."

Posted by: JustMe | August 1, 2007 11:00 PM

This reminds me of one of my fave lines from the Simpsons (not sure which character, maybe Ms. Hoover): "C'mon people, this poetry is not going to appreciate itself!"

Posted by: dcsween | August 2, 2007 10:21 AM | Report abuse

JustMe, let me be the umpteenth person to say thanks for sharing those great training camp pix.

Though, dadgummit, it really makes me jealous that I can't make a trip out there myself. To see the plaid shorts, I mean.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 2, 2007 10:22 AM | Report abuse

old school/bang,

if these Strahan rumors are even remotely true (and I do realize they are rumors) then it just goes to show you that the Danny will never change.

it's like the little kid with teapot, only the Danny still hasn't learned (like most children eventually do) that you don't want to touch the pot while it's on the stove.

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | August 2, 2007 10:24 AM | Report abuse

Vote NO on old and busted pass rushers. That's subtraction by addition.

-Capt. Obvious, still angry about the Bruce "They're not saying Bruce, they're booing" Smith signing

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 2, 2007 10:36 AM | Report abuse

I can't see Strahan here. Dude will report to the Gints later. Wants more money to not retire. Puhleeze! He does need the cash after his wife took everything. OUCH!

Posted by: bangkokben | August 2, 2007 10:37 AM | Report abuse

...although picking up Strahan would let us get a sack in week six, at Green Bay.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 2, 2007 10:38 AM | Report abuse

I'll take my own old and busted up pash rushers over anyone else's. (Wynn, Daniels, Griffin from the inside)

They may just as old and busted up but a hell of a lot cheaper.

Posted by: bangkokben | August 2, 2007 10:43 AM | Report abuse

Ha, Bucktown, yes, despite the fact that I think Ronaldo was one of the two best players in the world last year (and I know I'm not going out on a limb there), he's hardly untouchable from a maturity standpoint -- so yes, I did slight him. But not his game. I suspect he's coming around as Fergie has more and more of an effect on him.

-sorrysorrysorry, futbol haters-

AND I am conversely impressed by Campbell's maturity, and believe that the Strahan rumors are just that: not coming from the reformed Skins FO.

Posted by: stevie in gp | August 2, 2007 10:44 AM | Report abuse

MV Dame, glad to add my voice to dealer's in support of 'this day in RI blog history.' You are the archivist, dude, nobody else is positioned better than you for this.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 2, 2007 10:46 AM | Report abuse

I think they'll make a big push for Strahan. Dan Snyder's still fuming that he couldn't land Kevin Garnett.

Posted by: etrod | August 2, 2007 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Man with the plan

Ravens general manager Ozzie Newsome sets the tone for the organization with his patient, deliberate approach

By John Eisenberg
Sun Reporter

January 8, 2007

Like many NFL teams, the Ravens have a public image and then another in the private corridors where the league operates.

The public image is a blend of Ray Lewis and Brian Billick: tough, swaggering and, to some, arrogant. But the Ravens' behind-closed-doors image is markedly different. They're regarded as methodical and patient, smart drafters and solid salary cap managers.

A number of factors contribute to that organizational personality, but more than anyone, it's a reflection of Ozzie Newsome, the team's general manager.

"He's very deliberate, very calculating," said former Ravens owner Art Modell, who put Newsome in charge of the team's football operation when the franchise moved from Cleveland to Baltimore 11 years ago.

"Ozzie is more patient than anyone I've ever worked for or with," said Eric DeCosta, the team's director of college scouting. "He doesn't get flustered, doesn't panic, always has a plan. He lets things come together. That's his best quality along with the fact that he's a great talent evaluator."

Newsome, 50, is the rare Hall of Fame player who has made a successful transition to running a football operation. Most top players become coaches or scouts if they continue in the game after retiring. Few even try to run a team, the Detroit Lions' much-maligned Matt Millen being an exception (and perhaps an example of why so few try). A GM needs different skills that aren't necessarily honed by years in uniform.

After catching 662 passes as a Cleveland Browns tight end from 1978 to 1990, Newsome now navigates a sea of salary cap rules, oversees scouts and serves as the Ravens' primary team builder and big-picture thinker.

Born and raised in Muscle Shoals, Ala., where his father ran a restaurant and his mother worked as a domestic, Newsome surely never contemplated becoming a GM during his years with the Browns, or before that, when he was a star receiver at the University of Alabama.

"But you know what? It's not really surprising he has proved to be good at that [GM] job, too," said Hanford Dixon, a former Cleveland Browns cornerback who played with Newsome and is one of his closest friends. "You kind of always knew he was special. He had such passion for football, and he was such a perfectionist."

Modell said: "All along, I saw in Ozzie a certain maturity, a quality of deliberation before he makes a decision. I felt that could translate into running an organization as a GM. I took a shot. It wasn't much of a shot."

As the Ravens have piled up wins this season, Newsome - who lives in Cockeysville with his wife, Gloria, and their son, Michael, a high school freshman - has been out of the public eye. He declined to be interviewed for this article, saying he was uncomfortable with the spotlight being on him as the team prepares for the playoffs.

He is usually relatively available to reporters - in 2005, he won a Pro Football Writers Association award given to a league or club official who helps the media - but his least favorite subject is himself.

"He's just tremendously humble, has no ego whatsoever. He believes the credit should go to the players," DeCosta said.

Browns GM Phil Savage, who worked with Newsome in Baltimore until 2005, added: "He doesn't need to tell people he is good at this. He is a Hall of Famer. He has gotten the acclaim. At this point, he would rather let his actions and his team do the talking for him."

When Newsome was 11, he was the only African-American in his grade and "learned to bite my tongue," he told The Plain Dealer of Cleveland in 1999. When he became the NFL's first African-American GM upon being promoted to that title in 2002, he said he knew it was "historically significant" but low-keyed the achievement.

"Ozzie doesn't like attention," DeCosta said. "He likes to win. You may not see it now that he's out of uniform, but he wants to win more than anyone. That's all he cares about."

Varied influences

His philosophy is a patchwork of influences.

From his college coach, Alabama's legendary Paul "Bear" Bryant, he learned to put the team first; numerous photographs of Bryant, who died in 1983, hang on Newsome's office walls.

"To him, football is about the players and coaches working together, not the individual. Bryant influenced him that way," DeCosta said.

Another influence was Bill Belichick, the cerebral head coach who has won three Super Bowls with the New England Patriots. He was the Browns' coach when Newsome retired and started looking around for a new career in the early 1990s. At Modell's urging, Newsome tried scouting and coaching before deciding he felt at home in the personnel office. He was strongly affected by Belichick's approach to personnel. Most NFL teams belonged to one of two scouting services, in which teams share information. Belichick preferred to rely strictly on the opinions of Cleveland's staff scouts.

When Newsome took over the Ravens' scouting and personnel operation in 1996, he also elected to go it alone, and the Ravens have since become well-known in NFL circles as one of the few teams that operate independently of the scouting services. (The Patriots and Colts do, too, DeCosta said, and the Bears recently went independent.)

"Ozzie has a lot of respect for the way Belichick does things," said Ravens spokesman Kevin Byrne, who added that Newsome is one of the few officials from another team whom Belichick speaks to regularly.

Independence means extra work for the Ravens' scouts, but Newsome mostly eschews middle-aged former players and coaches and hires young scouts-in-waiting straight out of college. Known as Newsome's "20-20 Club" (for being 20 years old and earning $20,000 in annual salary), they're willing to work long hours and are trained to look for what Newsome wants.

A typical Ravens scout spends two or three years in Baltimore as a glorified intern and then is given a region to scout when one opens and he is deemed ready. DeCosta is among those who have come through the ranks.

"The extra work is tough on the scouts but it has been a secret to our success because it allows us to know players better," DeCosta said. "We would never have gotten [linebacker] Bart Scott if we belonged to one of the scouting services. He wasn't on their lists. But we went to Southern Illinois [Scott's school] to see what was there.

A sound approach

The Ravens' drafting success under Newsome is well-known. Ray Lewis and Jonathan Ogden were selected in the first round in 1996. The Ravens have also scored first-round successes with Chris McAlister, Ed Reed, Todd Heap and Terrell Suggs, while also finding players such as Edwin Mulitalo and Dawan Landry in later rounds.

"The scouts know to look for what Ozzie wants," DeCosta said

And that is?

"The biggest thing is toughness. That's our first quality," DeCosta said. "Then football intelligence. Then speed and football character, which we define as things like durability and consistent effort. The final thing would be overall character, being a good teammate and good team member, being trustworthy, paying attention."

Although they work long hours for low pay, the Ravens' young scouts are loyal to Newsome, DeCosta said, because he lets them do their jobs.

"That's the genius of Ozzie. He trusts you to do your job," DeCosta said. "He's a great listener to what everyone in the room says."

During the season, Newsome's workday consists of watching the Ravens' practice, studying tape of college and pro players and working the phones at the Ravens' training facility in Owings Mills. For exercise, he pounds a treadmill, sometimes twice a day.

He travels with the team to away games and usually watches by himself rather than with the owner.

"That started with me. He couldn't stand my profanity," Modell said with a laugh. "I kidded him that the league was full of GMs who watched the games with their owners, and mine was hiding in the bathroom. But that's Ozzie."

During the week, Newsome occasionally counsels a player who has strayed.

"Sometimes they get called into the principal's office," DeCosta said. "If I tell them something, it doesn't mean anything. But Ozzie is a Hall of Famer. The players respect him. Anything coming from him, the players listen."

The second season

His job kicks into high gear when the season ends. The Ravens' coaches, scouts and personnel administrators meet, and players' performances are discussed along with potential moves. Newsome listens and then formulates a plan for the coming season. The plan includes numerous priorities and options, with the salary cap always in mind.

Newsome's record isn't perfect. He drafted Kyle Boller and Travis Taylor and put together last year's 6-10 team. But his overall record is positive. He built a Super Bowl-winning team and three others that reached the playoffs (in 2001, 2003 and 2006).

His moves greatly shaped this year's 13-3 team. When the Ravens lost defensive end Anthony Weaver to free agency, Newsome immediately signed Trevor Pryce, whom he had identified as the best replacement. When the team lost defensive tackle Maake Kemoeatu to free agency, Newsome weighed his options and decided to use the team's No. 1 draft pick on Haloti Ngata.

When punter Dave Zastudil signed with the Browns last March, Newsome scoured the list of available veterans before deciding to use a sixth-round draft pick on Sam Koch, another player not listed by the scouting services.

And of course, he targeted Steve McNair as a possible savior at quarterback and then waited for months while McNair's complicated exit from Tennessee played out.

"He always lets things play out," Savage said. "He has been around long enough to know a decision made in haste is probably the wrong decision. And let's face it, he started every game he ever played from eighth grade to the end of his pro career. He knows football. He just has a great instinct for the game."

Consistency pays off

Away from football, Newsome is known as a fierce family man.

"As much passion as he has for the game and what he does, he's the same way about Gloria and Michael," said Hanford Dixon, who now sells real estate in Cleveland.

He's also passionate about golf. Newsome avidly practices and plays at a private club.

"Ozzie is very dedicated to golf," Byrne said. "If he doesn't have time for a whole round, he'll go play six holes or even three, just something to get some golf in. He takes a lot of lessons. He's a Hall of Fame athlete and an OK golfer. He isn't where he thinks he should be, and he wants to get there."

Newsome and Dixon take vacations together and play an annual "bragging rights" golf match. Dixon laughingly refused to disclose the results.

Dixon said he leaves a voice mail message on Newsome's cell phone before every game.

"I always say 'Good luck, Big Dog, and get out of there with a win,' " Dixon said. "He takes losing hard."

When not on the road or the golf course, Newsome's life follows a consistent pattern.

"He is like clockwork. Every Tuesday is the same as the previous 15 Tuesdays. Every Friday is the same as the previous 15 Fridays. You always know what Ozzie is doing at every moment of the day," Savage said.

That consistency is the cornerstone of his success, DeCosta said.

"He's always here, always watching tape, always has an opinion," DeCosta said. "It would be easy for a guy who has reached his heights to take shortcuts, but he never does."

Posted by: mugamack | August 2, 2007 10:48 AM | Report abuse

Or that nine-year-old. We're GONNA need a kicker of the future, people.

Posted by: stevie in gp | August 2, 2007 10:48 AM | Report abuse

Sorry for the long post, the article was archived at the Sun.

Posted by: mugamack | August 2, 2007 10:50 AM | Report abuse

More bad news for chinese imports. My son has two of the toys on the recall list

Posted by: Zebra | August 2, 2007 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Chinese made sesame street toys have been know to carry Big Bird Flu.

Posted by: etrod | August 2, 2007 10:56 AM | Report abuse

This is a Skins blog - please - enough about the flippin' Ravens!

Posted by: Lisa | August 2, 2007 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Where the heck is JEFF HAYES (the blog peep, not the punter)? Dude moves to Boston and goes AWOL. Strange.

Out there lurking, buddy? Or have I just been missing your comments up here?

I hope you haven't been gobbled up by Pats Nation. Perish the thought.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 2, 2007 11:05 AM | Report abuse

RB- Oh so negative. Want to rent my moniker? I know I won't be needing it this season.

Posted by: 4-12 | August 2, 2007 11:09 AM | Report abuse

Sorry Lisa.

I posted the article because it was mentioned in a discussion of how poor the Redskins scouting is in comparison to the Ozzie-led Ravens. I would have linked to the article, but it costs money to read it at the Sun.

I think the article sheds light on just how far the Redskins front office is from a winning formula for scouting/GMing. We're actually talking about the Skins signing Strahan to a long-term deal here. Do you think Ravens fans are doing that?

And yes, I know this is a Redskns blog. Should we go back to talking about how good you think the Giants are going to be this year? Or was that Fake Lisa?

Posted by: mugamack | August 2, 2007 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Mug, I made only one comment about the Giants - and that was just a feeling I have....not that I think they are good or have good management.

Posted by: Lisa | August 2, 2007 11:29 AM | Report abuse

I think Lisa should be sent to the corner. lol

Posted by: jm220 | August 2, 2007 11:31 AM | Report abuse


Any of you grumpy munchkins know where I can get a good apple fritter?

Posted by: daveb55 | August 2, 2007 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Jason LaC was on the Ravens beat for the post-season (before they lost). Here is one where he shows the love for Ozzie (who I also would trade Cerrato for in a heartbeat).

Posted by: dcsween | August 2, 2007 11:35 AM | Report abuse

you all probably notcied this from Fitz but,

"You won't get the details from me--there's a reason the practice was closed to the public, after all--but Jason Campbell found himself as a wide receiver on one play during 11-on-11 work.

Campbell caught the pass for a 25-yard pickup--and he took a hard hit from a defensive back, too.

Does Campbell have a future as a wide receiver? "I would say ?No,'" Joe Gibbs said, laughing. "But he has the height for it." "

They let him get hit? WT(SJK)

Posted by: Zebra | August 2, 2007 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Also, Mr. Wise took my remark out of context. I was responding to JLaC's (injury news only) blog thread, not fearing the worst. For the record, I think that Samuels is NOT that hurt, but that Portis and Santana are hurting more than we know about. It is kind of cool, however, to see my blogname in the print edition.

Posted by: dcsween | August 2, 2007 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Don't get me wrong, Lisa, I'm here for the Redskins. One of my favorite parts of the blog are your posts about what various Skins are saying on Comcast.

But someone used your name not only to say nice things about the Giants, but to defend those comments. Maybe it wasn't you. Fake Lisa, probably.

Posted by: mugamack | August 2, 2007 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Why did you even take up time with this nonsense?

Posted by: Obviously Fake | August 2, 2007 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Zebra | August 2, 2007 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Well said mugamack. RB made valid points. There is no denying how well the Ravens are run, what's wrong with pointing this out?

They are clearly one of the best teams in the league, in an ultra difficult conference, year in, year out.

Yeah, I could see how trying to emulate that blueprint, or even pointing out how successful they've been is silly.

Posted by: k Squared | August 2, 2007 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Why does everyone always blame it on me?

Posted by: Fake Lisa | August 2, 2007 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Kelli Johnson from Sportsnet asked one of the Skins media people about the YouTube clip and he said that it was real....Jason accomplished the feat on his second take.

Posted by: Lisa | August 1, 2007 07:28 PM

Kelli Johnson is freakin' hot. If she says it is true, I believe it. If she told me the world was flat, I'd believe it...

Posted by: Anonymous | August 2, 2007 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Like I have been saying... its all about JC and the offense this season... quot from all saunders on the qualities of great nfl QB's.....

He won't fail, because of the type of young man he is, and the way he works and approaches the game,'' Saunders said. "Great quarterbacks have three things: Great composure. Great courage. And great temperament. He has all those intangibles. He just needs to develop his physical technique and his understanding of the offense, and how that part of the game works. But that will come with experience. I actually feel great to be working in the NFL with a kid like this. They're rare.''

not sayn'

Posted by: Anonymous | August 2, 2007 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Kelli Johnson looks like a dog's behind compared to me.

Posted by: Erin Andrews | August 2, 2007 12:04 PM | Report abuse

that was from me...

Posted by: Old School | August 2, 2007 12:05 PM | Report abuse

How do you contact the Wash Po if you have a serious story to report?

Posted by: Question | August 2, 2007 09:10 AM

Just post it on here. One of the reporters will pick up on it and write it up.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 2, 2007 12:08 PM | Report abuse

I watched very closely and my professional videomaker eyes could not catch a jump frame. It was all one take continuous flow. Though I doubt the chris sims one was real, I caught one in there.

Posted by: 35332 | August 2, 2007 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Kelli Johnson is hot. Erin Andrews is very hot. Bob Lee is supernova. (Joking)

Is it just me, or is Sportscenter the crappiest crap in craptown? What is this 'Who's Now' SJK?

I know the summer is slow but jeez! Give us some Curling or competative eating coverage, or at least something. Even WWE coverage is better than watching Jalen Rose and Keyshawn Johnson talk about whether Derek Jeter is sexier than Shaq. Ugh!

Posted by: etrod | August 2, 2007 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Not only the 'Who's Now' SJK etrod, but up on their website, they've got 50 current "Canton bound" players, some who have yet to even play a game. Just plain stupid.

Posted by: 4-12 | August 2, 2007 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Since I've been reading the likes of Ricky Bobby and the other negative nellies, it's got me to thinking about the history. I prefer to think about the Glory days instead of the dark days directly after them.

Suffice it to say, I have looked at all the playoffs since St. Joe left for NASCAR and am in the process of breaking it down and making conclusions but one nugget to look at for now is comparing the Snyder era to the era after Gibbs and before Snyder (AGBS).

Here are some facts about the Cowboys and Redskins in the AGBS and Since Snyder.

AGBS ('93-'98): The 'skins had no playoff seasons; the cowboys went to the playoffs in five of the six seasons compiling a post-season record of 7-3 winning Two Super Bowls. Truly the worst time to be a football fan.

Since Snyder: The 'skins have had two playoff seasons with a record of 2-2 while the 'boys have no playoff wins in three seasons.

So one good thing about Snyder: the cowboys haven't one a playoff game since his ownership. Maybe the curse of the Dan had something to do with last January.

Posted by: bangkokben | August 2, 2007 12:28 PM | Report abuse

35332, really? Doesn't it seem odd that you don't see those throws in flight? Not trying to get all Zapruder up in here breaking down film, but it seems like an obvious fake. It also seems like an absurdly difficult thing to do. Which is why someone would make it up, because it's so doggone amazing.

Now, someone could post a video of Sean Taylor performing just about any herculean feat and I would think it was real.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 2, 2007 12:33 PM | Report abuse

I hate homophones. Does that make me homophobic?

Posted by: bangkokben | August 2, 2007 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: WrongDog | August 2, 2007 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Looks like Rick Bob woke up on the wrong side of eternally boiling lava pit this morning. Jeez buddy! Relax!

Kelli Johnson is a solid 8. Anyone who goes to Caddies between coverages of Tiger's tourney, throws back 3 drinks, then returns to do the evening wrap is deserving of a crown!

Posted by: Pub Golf | August 2, 2007 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Okay, that jersey looks a little bit like the circus is coming to town, but it will look mean as hell on the Reaper or Sellers.

Hmm... now we need to see the new throwback helmets and trousers.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 2, 2007 12:38 PM | Report abuse


Sean Taylor did that same trick with Brian Moorman and Jeff Feagles.

Posted by: etrod | August 2, 2007 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Great find, by the way, WrongDog.

Agreed on KJ, PG.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 2, 2007 12:39 PM | Report abuse

I wonder how Mike Sellers feels about wearing Shiny Dazzle Sleeves?

Posted by: etrod | August 2, 2007 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Great link wrongdog.

But where can you get the gold pants? I know Nate hates the gold pants but I loves them. I would golf in them here, especially on Mondays for the king.

Posted by: bangkokben | August 2, 2007 12:42 PM | Report abuse

bangkokben is a homophonophobe.

dcsween is a homophonophile -- due to injuries attributable to greek pastries, however, i am a filophobe.

Posted by: dcsween | August 2, 2007 12:43 PM | Report abuse

I'm a philophile. Not unlike Brick Tamland, I love love.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 2, 2007 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Nate, the thing is that at some point you would see a jumpframe on the WR's or in the sky. I am just saying I saw no such incident. Are these things on TV? If not then they would not be able to budget enough to do a hard core editing job.

Posted by: 35332 | August 2, 2007 12:47 PM | Report abuse

does your shrink keep your records in her philophile file?

Posted by: etrod | August 2, 2007 12:47 PM | Report abuse

There is only one way for Campbell to prove he did it. Durring a preseason game or something he has to do it agian to show the world.

Posted by: 35332 | August 2, 2007 12:54 PM | Report abuse

I just ordered mine! Takes 7 - 8 weeks though. Needed that reaper jers, and that ones special. Now they better ,lock him up long term

Posted by: Zebra | August 2, 2007 12:55 PM | Report abuse

3529123, exactly! i was looking for that as well. first i concentrated on JC's body then the receivers and then the footballs and then the background. nothing funky happened.

Posted by: dealer | August 2, 2007 12:56 PM | Report abuse

I love the off field chemistry with these guys. Good stuff.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 2, 2007 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Bobos, they make your feet feel fine
Bobos, they cost a dollar ninety-nine...

I haven't heard that since about '87.

Posted by: etrod | August 2, 2007 1:06 PM | Report abuse

there's a 72.3% chance that i'll be at the practice today. i'll be real easy to spot. i'll be with the prettiest (who also happens to be the smartest) girl in the world.

Posted by: dealer | August 2, 2007 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Fantastic fotos, Justme! Thanks for sharing, altho I teared up at the pic of Howie. How about the plaid shorts? Did I not TELL you? (This should totally cement my credibility.) The good news is that this is a different pair than I've seen previously, which means he has at least two pairs. Before seeing the foto, I had feared he was just rinsing the same pair out at night. and wearing 'em every day

Posted by: Cindy | August 2, 2007 1:20 PM | Report abuse

If you want to believe the JC one, you also have to believe this...

and we all know Chris Simms couldn't hit a cow's ass with a banjo.

Posted by: SMACK | August 2, 2007 1:20 PM | Report abuse

LOVE that youtube! We MAY have some new nicknames. Jason Campbell = The Mediterranean. The wide receivers collectively = the Third Graders.

Posted by: dcsween | August 2, 2007 1:20 PM | Report abuse

The Mediterranean and The Third Graders are in the youtube at 12:58, not SMACK's crappy Chris Simms' one at 1:20.

Posted by: dcsween | August 2, 2007 1:22 PM | Report abuse

As I surmised. Betts will likely be the #1 back. I wonder why they didn't try to see if Duckett would be valuable last year? Lloyd is #2. And I am waiting for the final shoe to fall; Shawn Springs demotion to cover corner specialist and nickel back with Smoot starting. Again because of his propensity toward injury.

Posted by: periculum | August 2, 2007 1:36 PM | Report abuse

and we all know Chris Simms couldn't hit a cow's ass with a banjo.

Posted by: SMACK | August 2, 2007 01:20 PM

You are in debt for a SJK or FJK however you want to look at it.

Posted by: LMGO | August 2, 2007 1:36 PM | Report abuse

oh do I love to see Lisa backpedal on her secret Giants crush.

4-12, I have a feeling I'll be joining you after this season.. winning season or not. Tickets are getting too expensive and it's getting harder and harder to get people to want to go... like Pub Golf for example.

k sq, thanks for having my back. like I said earlier, anyone who thinks the Redskins FO isn't in the bottom quarter of this league needs to have their head examined. everyone talks about it, yet I feel like no one around here (especially those at Redskin Park) think that's plausible.

Pub - Kelli wasn't heading back to do the show that night after Caddies, she was actually coming over to my place. SCHWWWWWWWWWING. 10/10 for KJ. Erin Andrews gets a solid 50/10.

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | August 2, 2007 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Good to see them keepin' it light, and bringin' back the bobo's. Makes me siced about this year.

Posted by: Pulldownclaw | August 2, 2007 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Interesting questions, all. Let's see wha happens.

Betts may make himself the number one back. If CP is hampered by injuries, or if defenses key on him too much. But I don't see the coaches designating Betts #1. But it just may happen...

It should be a top-shelf backfield. We should see a lot of coverage sacks, no matter who starts. And maybe a lot of opposing receivers limping to the side of the field.

Posted by: Stumped | August 2, 2007 1:50 PM | Report abuse

If Smoot replaces anyone in that backfield, it will be Double-Move.

Posted by: etrod | August 2, 2007 1:53 PM | Report abuse

I know I'm late to the party, but mad props to the bloggy peeps who made Wise's article. See kids, if you work hard, blog your guts out, and stay up all night on RI, you can get somewhere in life. Or become assistant fry manager at McD's. I kid because I'm jealous.

I also hate Wise's smirky pic, looks like a punk. Our boy Jasno is so much more distinguished.....

Posted by: Pulldownclaw | August 2, 2007 2:00 PM | Report abuse

RB no one is stating that the FO sucks. But damn how many times are we going to go over it. And just maybe if you didn't come with something negative everyday it might not be that big of a deal.

If I am not mistaken, only thing Lisa stated was she thought the G-Men may have a good year. How you turn that into a G crush (lol if Jack if your children picked up on that joke than you and I need to have a talk my friend.)?

Posted by: jm220 | August 2, 2007 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Pulldownclaw, my wife wants to see if she can get a deal from your sis on one of those nice Queen Bee bags she makes. Any chance of that?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 2, 2007 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Is anyone worried about Smoot and Rogers using soccer cleats?

A couple nervous thoughts.

1) It is not all that uncommon for strikers to break their foot. Rooney's metatarsal..anyone? The thought from the pundits is that the 'footwear' is too lightweight. The ol' "don't make it like they used to" refrain.

2) Soccer 'boots' don't have the cleat at the toe - so that you can kick the ball. You don't get the drive on that first step or two that you do with football cleats. So whatever you gain with lighter shoes you loose with acceleration.

Posted by: bangkokben | August 2, 2007 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Stumped, I do see a lot of questions without answers. The wildcard is the University of Maryland product Heyer's unexpected emergence. Shades of Neal Olkewicz. Given Randy Thomas accolades for him, and the intel that many thought Wade was better than most of the starters ... well maybe it should be shades of Joe Jacoby.

Lloyd is currently backing up Randel El. If they had anyone (Espy?) half-way decent in camp I would think he would fall off the end of the bench and onto the waiver wire. Ducket did more than he did. Its all about the guaranteed money, the contract, and the salary cap. Which really puts a crimp in the team's ability to get quality players in.

Springs is still their best cover guy. No doubt. However, injuries make you wonder if he can manage 16 games? And against the run, would he last? I suspect they are planning on easing him into a nickel / cover specialist role.

Posted by: periculum | August 2, 2007 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Erin Andrews. The 2nd pic definitely answers the Nate/dcsween/jm220 question of "Panties"

Posted by: 4-12 | August 2, 2007 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Nate - I just had an insane vision of you toasting mayo while describing yourself as a philophile.

Ron: Brick, where did you get a hand grenade?
Brick: I don't know.

Posted by: Pub Golf | August 2, 2007 2:03 PM | Report abuse

The more I think about it the more inscrutable this defense seems. Grilliams can show a lot of different looks with different personnel. It should really be confusing to opposing offenses.

Oh, and I have heard that the Redskins lack a pass rushing DE, but if they had a marquee DE, it would be the one thing the opposition could count on.


Posted by: Stumped | August 2, 2007 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Ricky Bobby....I DESPISE the Giants - can't say that enough - especially whiny Eli. What I said before was that I think they will have a good season because the media is writing them off....that is the ONLY reason I think that....because I'm into jinxes.

Posted by: Lisa | August 2, 2007 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Eli Manning is going to become Peyton2 this season

Posted by: Lisa

Posted by: Lisa | August 2, 2007 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Nate- Lemme see what I can do, it can be a slippery slope, but I would love the RI connections to come through for eachother.

Oh yeah, a big no and no to Strahan and boy am I glad we still have Betts......

Posted by: Pulldownclaw | August 2, 2007 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Looking around to make sure Lisa isn't here. (LMGO) Thanks 4-12 no question about that 2nd pic.

Posted by: jm220 | August 2, 2007 2:08 PM | Report abuse

The Giants will easily rule the NFC East.

Posted by: Lisa

Posted by: Lisa | August 2, 2007 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Team management received sub-par internal scouting reports on free agent end Simeon Rice, sources said, and have made no contact with the former Pro Bowler. Nor are they expected to. Management did instruct scouts and coaches to compile offseason reports on defensive end Michael Strahan over the winter, however. Strahan is threatening to retire and is locked in a contract impasse with the New York Giants. Owner Daniel Snyder likes Strahan after watching him battle his team in the NFC East, team sources have said, and should Strahan become available, the Redskins could become a suitor. The Giants would likely be reluctant to trade him within the division, and several teams are monitoring his situation closely.

Posted by: JLa's POst Article | August 2, 2007 2:08 PM | Report abuse

I just have a feeling about it...

Posted by: Lisa

Posted by: Lisa | August 2, 2007 2:10 PM | Report abuse

"Andrews' father is a TV reporter in Tampa and her goal is to end up on "Monday Night Football."

4-12, re: that second photo, I'd be AOK with that end up on MNF.

Posted by: dcsween | August 2, 2007 2:10 PM | Report abuse

jm, Lisa is going to take a hammer to the back of your head so hard... you won't know what hit you.

Posted by: MV Dame | August 2, 2007 2:11 PM | Report abuse

might be worth it.....

Posted by: Pulldownclaw | August 2, 2007 2:14 PM | Report abuse

MV LMGO! I know I know

Posted by: jm220 | August 2, 2007 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Eli is really mostly pathetic -- he doesn't seem that "whiny" to me. Shockey, on the other hand ... more than any other player in the NFC East, Shockey dwells in a stinky unwiped crevice. [SJK] With TiVi gone and Strahan on his way out, Shockey is the only guy I really despise on that team. [Though Plaxico gets a bye from me only b/c he's a Spartan alum.] Nothing strikes me as "positive" about Coughlin either, but he does seem to suffer disrespect nobly. Toomer seems like a decent guy. I know people still love Pierce (though rumors are spreading that he may have a bitey dog problem too).

Posted by: dcsween | August 2, 2007 2:19 PM | Report abuse

I see the Broncos had to cart old Warrick Holdman off to the hospital for a neck/head injury. It was said he was still moving his arms and legs.

Posted by: Rich from Salisbury | August 2, 2007 2:25 PM | Report abuse

In fairness to Lisa, she is being quoted out of context:

Ok...I'm going to make a bold that I hope is wrong....

Eli Manning is going to become Peyton2 this season and will be a TD machine. The Giants will easily rule the NFC East.

Posted by: Lisa | July 19, 2007 07:48 PM

Lisa NOOOOOO!!!!

Has anything made you think this? Or is it just a gut feeling?

Posted by: kost52 | July 19, 2007 07:55 PM

That's GOTTA be another fake Lisa.

Posted by: SMACK | July 19, 2007 07:58 PM

SMACK - I think you're right. DAMN I hate being gullible! Predicting Manning to improve is one thing, but saying this

"The Giants will easily rule the NFC East."

isn't the sort of thing any non-Giants fan would say.

Posted by: kost52 | July 19, 2007 08:17 PM

Ha kost,
Never believe anything you read online! My rule is never believe anyone is a female online either. Make 'em prove it. Right Sherry and JP, or was it PJ?

Posted by: SMACK | July 19, 2007 08:25 PM

you are smoking dubes!!!!! the giants are a mess.......believe me i am in nyc......they have nobody...

Posted by: chris larry | July 19, 2007 08:55 PM

this blog stinks like mike vick's backyard

Posted by: | July 19, 2007 09:17 PM

That was really me who made the Giants comment.

Why do I think so? Because EVERYONE is discounting them without Tiki. I just have a feeling about it....and I truly hope I'm wrong.

Posted by: Lisa | July 19, 2007 09:22 PM

Posted by: mugamack | August 2, 2007 2:31 PM | Report abuse

#47 sportin' a 'stache.

It would be so money if he added the handlebars.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 2, 2007 2:34 PM | Report abuse


I'm just messin' with you. All the regular bloggers, including you, despise the Giants, Eagles, Boys, and Ravens for sure.


I have to come here and hate blog or else I'll end up smashing the 50 or so computers my buddy stored in my apartment. serenity now, serenity now, serenity now...

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | August 2, 2007 2:35 PM | Report abuse

SHEESH... first Fitzgerald and now Wise ...

"It may not be DEFCON 1 in Ashburn, but don't tell a few worried and neurotic folks in the blogosphere, where one poster writes: "What's the point of waiting to panic in October? The gray skies descend upon us and the chill of autumn lingers like a used bathrobe." Or this from DCSween: 'Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, what did you think of the play?'"

DUDE .. get a life. How old are you? You don't look all that young? Haven't you ever heard of the Hot Stove League, or the more modern Fantasy leagues? Of course we are going to nit-pick and analyze the hell out of things. Its called being a FAN. You know, FAN?

What you need to worry about is our FIRST FAN. When he starts thinking along those lines very, very bad things happen to the Washington Redskins. Which is why I hypothesize that Joe Jackson Gibbs cannot spend a lot of time coaching and must spend the greater part of his time convincing his owner not to push the panic button yet again. Because he will do something ridiculous while getting plenty of encouragement in his angst by that silly GM wannabe Cerrato.

That said, we are happy that you read Jason's blog. Please make lots of anonymous postings full of your angst and irritability whilst awaiting the beginning of the season. It might improve your writing and you might even find better topics to write about.

Posted by: periculum | August 2, 2007 2:39 PM | Report abuse

JustMe, those effing pictures rock! (SJK) Wow. I was all cool and mellow just waiting for the season to arrive but now I am hyped! Thanks for sharing!

Posted by: MV Dame | August 2, 2007 2:41 PM | Report abuse

JustMe thanks for sharing the pics. I too am hyped for the season and about to head out for a run to burn some energy.

Posted by: Forrest | August 2, 2007 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Sweet shorts Jasno.

Sellers just looks like a beast, and L2 looks like he can bring the pain as well.

JC is the real deal Holyfield, I can feel it.

Posted by: Pulldownclaw | August 2, 2007 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Help, need update from camp....

Posted by: Stumped | August 2, 2007 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Stumped, aren't you the one who puts on the turban? It worked. New POST.

Posted by: dcsween | August 2, 2007 3:17 PM | Report abuse

I don't feel any need to panic....yet. Heard this morning that McNabb is looking "rusty" - yet the sports media is predicting the Eagles to set the NFL on fire. They don't know ANYTHING...and neither do we.

Posted by: Lisa | August 2, 2007 3:20 PM | Report abuse

and we all know Chris Simms couldn't hit a cow's ass with a banjo.

Posted by: SMACK | August 2, 2007 01:20 PM

Damn (SJK) cowpie fans and their wierd livestock games.

Posted by: gethanr13 | August 2, 2007 3:56 PM | Report abuse

After reading this blog, let me give you the "truth according to SIC-WID-IT ("Sick with it" for those trying to figure it out)

1) Gibbs coached a team from a 5 and 6 start, to a 10 and 6 finish (with one receiver)and a dropped INT away from the NFC Championship. We had health on our side at the time, and that type of run doesn't happen by accident.

2) Gregg Williams deserves a pass for last season. He had tons of injuries. Top 10 defense two out of three years...I'd bet my money they're right back up there again.

3) Some of you naysayers kill me. This is pretty much the same team that went to the 2nd round of the playoffs. Didn't Snyder and Gibbs bring those people in? Weren't many of them free agents too. We ALL cheered for Portis, Moss, Daniels, Washington, but yet we kill the FO when the same group underacheived

4) You all underestimate the running game. If the running game is what is was last season and the defense plays a little better(no injuries), we'll win three or four more games. Campbell doesn't have to be the savior.

5) Didn't the same FO lock up Betts, Thomas, and Sellars to long term deals before the season started?

6) Isn't this the same coaching staff and FO that put confidence into their young, DRAFTED D-linemen in Golston and Montgomery and said hey, we're fine. Isn't that what we want is to develop young talent?

7) Gibbs' biggest sin has been his overcommittment to Brunell...not practicing JC at all at the start of last season is inexcusable.

8) On the depth many teams have Pro Bowl lineman coming off the bench. It DOESN'T HAPPEN!!! We had some nice depth on the O-Line last year...Wade and Pucillo. They stepped in admirably, that't why they're called reserves.

Now that I've got that stuff off my chest...pass the Grey Goose... more thing, who cares if the JC commercial was was tight...If Carmen Electra were here right now, you think I would ask her if those are fake. I wouldn't be able to talk because I'd have one in my mouth.

Posted by: sicwidit | August 2, 2007 4:21 PM | Report abuse

A pass of that depth would only take about 2 seconds to arrive at the reciever....the throws are at least 1 full second apart....yet the second one catches the first one

Surely none of you believe that Jason Campbell could throw one football..... then throw another one right after it..... traveling fast enough to catch the first one and deflect it to two different recievers...well maybe JCL does.... Mister insider .... hehe

Posted by: nonon | August 2, 2007 5:43 PM | Report abuse

it's computer animated as soon as the footballs come out from the top of the screen. GUARANTEED

Posted by: Ian | August 3, 2007 1:09 PM | Report abuse

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