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Posted at 10:00 AM ET, 12/30/2010

Ex-tight ends coach surprised by criticism of Chris Cooley

By Jason Reid

Washington's tight ends coach during the 2009 season, Scott Wachenheim, worked closely with Pro Bowler Chris Cooley and talented backup Fred Davis.

Wachenheim, who just completed his first season as Virginia's tight ends coach, has continued to monitor their progress, and he was surprised by the negative fan reaction after the normally sure-handed Cooley had a rough day - he dropped several passes, including one that would have resulted in a touchdown - in Sunday's win in overtime against Jacksonville.

In an email, Wachenheim informed me about his research on dropped passes when he was a member of former coach Jim Zorn's staff. Cooley, he explained, is about as good as it gets at catching the football.

"A good NFL receiver will have one drop out of every 10 catchable balls," he wrote. "I looked at all of Chris Cooley's targets prior to my arrival and during my stay. Chris only dropped one out of every 23 catchable balls thrown to him. He has great hands and concentration."

In a phone interview, Wachenheim said the Redskins are much stronger than most NFL teams at the tight end position.

"With Chris, you talk about a guy that has unbelievable hands, eye coordination and concentration and focus," Wachenheim said. "He's catching balls over the middle, he's catching balls getting hit and he's catching balls with people all around him. He's just a tremendous player and a tremendous tight end."

Cooley's shaky performance against the Jaguars was an aberration, Wachenheim said.

"If you were to break down each one of 'em, there's really only one that everybody would talk about, and that's the one in the end zone," he said. "You can say what you want to say, but the back judge was obscuring his vision slightly.

"But Chris is gonna catch that ball ... 99 times outta 10. That's just a freak thing that happened. And, you know, shoot, Fred Davis caught the next one for a touchdown. It didn't hurt the team. It had no impact on the game. So get over it and let's move on."

After Cooley was injured last season, Wachenheim put in overtime in an effort to get Davis up to speed as Washington's starter for the final nine games.

Davis responded with a strong second half and finished with a team-high six touchdown receptions.

"I think Fred would start on 10 NFL teams," Wachenheim said. "Right now, they're both starting tight ends. They're both good players. So is Mike Sellers, who plays fullback. It's a tough dilemma.

"How do you get 'em all in the game at the same time and attack a defense? I think Coach Shanahan, both coach Shanahans [head coach Mike and offensive coordinator Kyle] have done a good job with how they're using 'em this year."

By Jason Reid  | December 30, 2010; 10:00 AM ET
Categories:  Chris Cooley, Fred Davis  
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Comments

So Carlos Rogers actually catches a pick, and Cooley drops 4 balls……even steven. Cooley will bounce back this week.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | December 30, 2010 10:07 AM | Report abuse

This article proves Cooooley's trade value is a minimum 2nd & 5th.

And a Cam Newton morning to everybody........

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 30, 2010 10:15 AM | Report abuse

He's just highlighting what we already know. A lot of our fellow "fans" are fickle and flighty...and stupid. Dude has a bad day and all of a sudden "he's on the downslope of his career" or "he's past his prime." Boy, sure hope the dog doesn't have a bad day or it's likely to get put down.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | December 30, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse

This article proves Cooooley's trade value is a minimum 2nd & 5th.

And a Cam Newton morning to everybody........

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 30, 2010 10:15 AM |

And a big 330 pound NT back at you 4th.

Posted by: Flounder21 | December 30, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse

This article proves Cooooley's trade value is a minimum 2nd & 5th.

And a Cam Newton morning to everybody........

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 30, 2010 10:15 AM | Report abuse

You know 4th, the more I think about it, the more I see Cam Newton falling in our lap. I've watched him play 3-4 times this year and I like what I see.

Posted by: iH8dallas | December 30, 2010 10:23 AM | Report abuse

But Chris is gonna catch that ball ... 99 times outta 10.

Wow, that's pretty good.

Posted by: wireman65 | December 30, 2010 10:24 AM | Report abuse

What's remarkable is Cooley has only 3 TDs this year in 15 games.

For perspective, Cooley had 2 TDs last year under Zorn in just 7 games he played before getting injured.

Posted by: Alan4 | December 30, 2010 10:27 AM | Report abuse

And a Cam Newton morning to everybody........

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 30, 2010 10:15 AM

I'll take your Cam Newton and raise you a Robert Quinn and Christian Ponder.

Posted by: TWISI | December 30, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

"I think Fred would start on 10 NFL teams," Wachenheim said.

That would create some scheduling difficulties.

Posted by: wireman65 | December 30, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

This article proves Cooooley's trade value is a minimum 2nd & 5th.

And a Cam Newton morning to everybody........

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 30, 2010 10:15 AM | Report abuse

You know 4th, the more I think about it, the more I see Cam Newton falling in our lap. I've watched him play 3-4 times this year and I like what I see.

Posted by: iH8dallas | December 30, 2010 10:23 AM

No thanks to another 1 year wonder. Dude played in a spread option offense. Do you know what that means? If your first passing option isn't open then pull the ball down and run. That is NOT what we need.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | December 30, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

So what.. Brett Favre made a pass at a female reporter and guess what... it was dropped like a bad habit.

Posted by: iubiquity | December 30, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Stat boy said
"McNabb played as well as could have been expected given the surrounding team"

Nothing in his presentation supports this conclusion. That's a fan speaking, not a statistician.

A more general conclusion would be that adding McNabb may have improved the Washington offense, given that it showed improvement in the presented metric. But there were other factors: a new scheme, a revamped line, and improved running backs. An analysis of variance might have been able to tease out whether or not McNabb improved the offense, or if it was a result of the other factors.

Myself, I think he could have played much better. The touch on the deep ball was especially disappointing: guys were getting open, but not hit in stride, so you get a 50 yard completion rather than 70 and a TD. The bounce passes were another issue, but more forgivable. Not every throw, even by Joe Montana or Tom Brady, is going to be on target.

But the biggest one to me, just watching the games, was the lack of focus for several series at the beginning of a half. You just can't have that.

So, if we were building a QB for the Shanahan offense, I expect a tall guy with an absolute cannon for an arm and a great touch on deep throws. Add the ability to read defenses and make quick decisions. Lack of the last 2 factors doomed Jason Campbell, and probably McNabb. And lack of an arm is going to doom Rex "That Idiot" Grossman, unless he ramps it up against the GiAnts.

Who like that is coming out of the college ranks? Mallet has a huge arm, is tall. But I haven't liked his decision making, and he's not very accurate. Luck I don't know much about. Locker is a no-go. Newton seems to be relying on his supreme talent. Nothing wrong with that: Vick does the same and Philly is going to the playoffs. So who out there fits the bill?

Maybe nobody worth grabbing in the first round. I say, if Phil Taylor is first round talent, draft the guy, maybe move down to get him.

Posted by: dpc2003 | December 30, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

But Chris is gonna catch that ball ... 99 times outta 10.

Wow, that's pretty good.

Posted by: wireman65 | December 30, 2010 10:24 AM |

My head just exploded trying to visualize that.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 30, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse

wonder if Cam is coming out and if he will participate in the combine or do what most of them do and skip it...be interested to see his workout.

I want a mean fat nasty NT more tho.

Posted by: mhartz1 | December 30, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse

If they beat the Giants, trade down. You're not going to get a QB that low, and the Dline is fairly deep in this draft. You could pick up an offensive center, and a couple of quality DL guys.

Posted by: dpc2003 | December 30, 2010 10:32 AM | Report abuse

But Chris is gonna catch that ball ... 99 times outta 10.

Wow, that's pretty good.

Posted by: wireman65 | December 30, 2010 10:24 AM |

My head just exploded trying to visualize that.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 30, 2010 10:30 AM

I think that means he's giving 110%. Except it really works out to 990%.

Posted by: Alan4 | December 30, 2010 10:33 AM | Report abuse

"I think Fred would start on 10 NFL teams," Wachenheim said.

That would create some scheduling difficulties.

Posted by: wireman65 | December 30, 2010 10:29 AM

But you would have to admire Bruce Allen when he traded him for 10 6th round draft picks. We would dominate the draft, late in the second day.

Posted by: beep-beep | December 30, 2010 10:33 AM | Report abuse

I thought I heard that there are supposed to be several good NT’s hitting the FA market this year….including the dude from the Ravens? I'm not sold on Rex as a full year starter next year....

Posted by: dlhaze1 | December 30, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

My head just exploded trying to visualize that.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 30, 2010 10:30 AM

If your head ever exploded it would rip out your intestines.

Posted by: beep-beep | December 30, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

But you would have to admire Bruce Allen when he traded him for 10 6th round draft picks. We would dominate the draft, late in the second day.

Posted by: beep-beep | December 30, 2010 10:33 AM

With the 193rd pick in the 2011 NFL draft...the Washington Redskins select...everyone else.

Posted by: PlayAction | December 30, 2010 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Ngata is FA, so is Franklin from SF

i think we need to focus on LB's in FA if we can, cuz we dont have enough picks to get solid studs in the draft

Posted by: mhartz1 | December 30, 2010 10:40 AM | Report abuse

Burke, you are an idiot, but at least you have no pride.

Wonder how fat the Fletcher Smith gift envelope was to get him to parade out this clap trap. It laughable to anyone who knows anything about statistical comparison or game theory. Laughable!

Mcnabb is and has been living on a past rep bought with his legs.

Redskins don't need an innaccurate bounce passer running the offense, and they don't need the qb to throw 95 mph fastballs off the wide open TE's breast plate from the 3 yard line either.

What they need is a smart, quick thinking guy who can make all the throws, and throw balls that put RBs and short route runners in a position to succeed after the catch. Rexy, thanks for trying, if anything all you have done is prove how s h itty Mcnabb has actually been.

Lets hope Shanny gets a good one in the draft that hopefully happens in April.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | December 30, 2010 10:40 AM | Report abuse

Lucky for us Flound that there are plenty of qaulity.

Example:

Sione Fua - Stanford

Projected right now to be a 3rd/4th rounder, but will prob shoot up after their primetime BCS bowl game.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 30, 2010 10:40 AM | Report abuse

Lucky for us Flound that there are plenty of qaulity NT in the draft.

Example:

Sione Fua - Stanford

Projected right now to be a 3rd/4th rounder, but will prob shoot up after their primetime BCS bowl game.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 30, 2010 10:40 AM | Report abuse

i think we need to focus on LB's in FA if we can, cuz we dont have enough picks to get solid studs in the draft

Posted by: mhartz1 | December 30, 2010 10:40 AM

Focus? In free agency? I think we have to fire a shotgun and hope that we can bag the entire flock of free agents. The retriever's gonna be busy bringing back all the birds.

Posted by: beep-beep | December 30, 2010 10:44 AM | Report abuse

4th that will be a good matchup against VT, and the hokies have a pretty good Center, so should be alot to watch.

Wasnt Bradford part of a spread offense at OU, so why cant other spread Offense QB's translate into quality pro qb, Bradford is without a doubt a solid rookie qb

Posted by: mhartz1 | December 30, 2010 10:45 AM | Report abuse

i think we need to focus on LB's in FA if we can, cuz we dont have enough picks to get solid studs in the draft
Posted by: mhartz1

When Henson comes back, and with the rise of R. Jackson and Chris Wilson, we might be okay at LB , regardless..

Posted by: frak | December 30, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse

It's not about the drops. It's about his comportment over the last few weeks. He's been downright dour. I don't know what his porblem is, besides the general consternation in the O.

And he's had more production issues than just the last game.

Sure, he's had a great season. But something is up.

Posted by: DikShuttle | December 30, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse

I said, Your High Censorship, that with the return of Henson and the rise of R.Jackson, Chris Wilson and Lorenzo, we should be okay at LB...Got a problem with that??

Posted by: frak | December 30, 2010 10:52 AM | Report abuse

No spread offense QB! No no no no!!!! Might as well draft a run-and-shoot guy.

That is all.

Posted by: dpc2003 | December 30, 2010 10:54 AM | Report abuse

Mcnabb is and has been living on a past rep bought with his legs.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | December 30, 2010 10:40 AM


I'm not a McNabb fan, and I hated the trade. But it all fairness, McNabb has had more recent success than Shanahan.

McNabb's team was 11-5 last year, and he was voted to the Pro Bowl for the 6th time. Last year.

And this was Shanahan's own RECENT assessment:

Mike Shanahan offers yet another fresh start for Redskins

By Gary Graves, USA TODAY
Updated 8/13/2010 12:11 PM

ASHBURN, Va. — Mike Shanahan is not really known for lavishing praise upon players, so the glowing assessment he offered of quarterback Donovan McNabb after a recent practice turned some heads.
The first-year Washington Redskins coach detailed the six-time Pro Bowler's skills — many of which were on display during the practice — and seemed eager to see what would follow. McNabb, also in his first year with the team, later chalked it up to his growing comfort zone with offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan's system, if not his budding relationship with his celebrated head coach.

"I think everybody who watched Donovan through the years knows he's an athlete," Mike Shanahan says. "What separates the really good quarterbacks and the great quarterbacks are people that can make plays off-rhythm. He's been able to do that. He's got the legs to run, he can throw on the run, he can throw deep, he can throw short. At the same time, you've still got to feel comfortable with your system."

Posted by: Alan4 | December 30, 2010 10:55 AM | Report abuse

What I like about Cam is that the guy just wins.

He doesn't get rattled, you can't coach that.

Posted by: iH8dallas | December 30, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Wasn't Vick a run and shoot at VT??

Posted by: frak | December 30, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Ngata is FA, so is Franklin from SF


Posted by: mhartz1 | December 30, 2010 10:40 AM

Franklin resigned at the begining of the season.

And also.....Most QBs who are in college run the 'Spread'. So any QB with real skills should do well in the NFL irregardless of what system he ran in college.

Cam has the correct throwing motion and has the accuracy. And he has won a Championship 2 years in a row almost.

But I also would sit him year one unlike Bradford.

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 30, 2010 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Got a problem with that??

Posted by: frak | December 30, 2010 10:52 AM |

Are you new here? When the censor has a problem with your post you get a message that says "Your post is being held for review by His Excellency, Jason Reid." If you didn't get that message, then your post is contributing to the overall dialogue and is most welcome.

I only get that message when I correctly spell words that I should have spelled incorrectly.

Posted by: beep-beep | December 30, 2010 10:57 AM | Report abuse

The more I read about John Beck - to go along with some youtube highlights from BYU and the pros (even some of his play with the Skins in the preseason), I get the sense that he might be flying under the radar relative to the Skins plans for a long-term QB solution.

Yeah, he was picked in the 2nd round, no biggie. He was essentially picked by Parcells who takes picking QB's as seriously as anyone. He was the 4th QB in that draft behind JaMucus Guzzle, Brady "Now I'm Done" Quinn and.....wait for it....Kevin Kolb.

The dude won every award an up and coming kid QB could win, plus, he was an Eagle scout. That has to mean he can tie a mean knot or start a fire with a toothpick and a trash tie (jk).

Anyway, as someone said earlier, if the Skins beat the G-Spots, they are going to be out of the running for Newton and Mallet.

Please, please, please, if Jake Locker is there, pass his ass by or trade that pick to someone who wants to draft him and accumulate more picks.

I have a strong feeling that Beck is going to be the man going forward.

Yeah, he was released from Miami when they thought that Chad Pennington was going to be their guy. Yeah he was traded from Baltimore because they were already set at the QB position.

Beck can be a starter in this league. At 6'1", I'd worry a little about his vision down field but the guy has pro talent and we have gaping holes in other spots.

Awards include but aren't limited to:

* 2x Academic All-Mountain West (2003, 2005)
* Second-team All-Mountain West (2004)
* BYU Cougars MVP (2005)
* 2x First-team All-Mountain West (2005-2006)
* Sporting News Mountain West Preseason Offensive Player of the Year (2006)
* Mountain West Conference Offensive Player of the Year (2006)
* Sporting News second-team All-American (2006)
* Davey O'Brien Award finalist (2006)
* Johnny Unitas Golden Arm Award finalist (2006)


"...There's a gleam men......there's a gleam!"

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 30, 2010 10:58 AM | Report abuse

If Ryan Mallett is a horndog rapist, he might just be the next Ben Roethlisberger..Big arm pocket passer, hard to bring down..maybe try some saltpeter..

Posted by: frak | December 30, 2010 11:00 AM | Report abuse

Best part of having a bad day if you're Cooley is, if the fans start booing you, you can still convince yourself that they're saying "Cooooo-ley!"

Or at least "Boo-urns."

Posted by: freakzilla | December 30, 2010 11:00 AM | Report abuse

The more I read about John Beck - to go along with some youtube highlights from BYU and the pros (even some of his play with the Skins in the preseason), I get the sense that he might be flying under the radar relative to the Skins plans for a long-term QB solution.

Yeah, he was picked in the 2nd round, no biggie. He was essentially picked by Parcells who takes picking QB's as seriously as anyone. He was the 4th QB in that draft behind JaMucus Guzzle, Brady "Now I'm Done" Quinn and.....wait for it....Kevin Kolb.

The dude won every award an up and coming kid QB could win, plus, he was an Eagle scout. That has to mean he can tie a mean knot or start a fire with a toothpick and a trash tie (jk).

Anyway, as someone said earlier, if the Skins beat the G-Spots, they are going to be out of the running for Newton and Mallet.

Please, please, please, if Jake Locker is there, pass his ass by or trade that pick to someone who wants to draft him and accumulate more picks.

I have a strong feeling that Beck is going to be the man going forward.

Yeah, he was released from Miami when they thought that Chad Pennington was going to be their guy. Yeah he was traded from Baltimore because they were already set at the QB position.

Beck can be a starter in this league. At 6'1", I'd worry a little about his vision down field but the guy has pro talent and we have gaping holes in other spots.

Awards include but aren't limited to:

* 2x Academic All-Mountain West (2003, 2005)
* Second-team All-Mountain West (2004)
* BYU Cougars MVP (2005)
* 2x First-team All-Mountain West (2005-2006)
* Sporting News Mountain West Preseason Offensive Player of the Year (2006)
* Mountain West Conference Offensive Player of the Year (2006)
* Sporting News second-team All-American (2006)
* Davey O'Brien Award finalist (2006)
* Johnny Unitas Golden Arm Award finalist (2006)


"...There's a gleam men......there's a gleam!"

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 30, 2010 11:01 AM | Report abuse

And this was Shanahan's own RECENT assessment:

Mike Shanahan offers yet another fresh start for Redskins

By Gary Graves, USA TODAY
Updated 8/13/2010 12:11 PM

Posted by: Alan4 | December 30, 2010 10:55 AM

In what Universe is a 4-1/2 month old USA today clippin a "RECENT assessment"? The same one where a Model-T Ford is a "Late-Model trade in"?

A recent assessment is where Shanahan said that McNabb is welcome back next year as a back-up.

Posted by: beep-beep | December 30, 2010 11:02 AM | Report abuse

If you didn't get that message, then your post is contributing to the overall dialogue and is most welcome.

That's a matter for discussion.

Posted by: wireman65 | December 30, 2010 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Alan... probowl last year in Philly. So what? Thats a beauty contest anyway.

Reid loved him so much he shipped him to DC.

That was not my real point anyway. My point is that burke's "statitical analysis" is a JOKE.

And Mcnabb sucks, too. FTR, Rexy pouted himself out of any shot at being the QB next year after his pick "loss of focus".

Shanny is still whipping himself daily like Boardwalk Empire's Fed for his failure to go up and get Bradford last year. He won't repeat that mistake.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | December 30, 2010 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Redskins draft Kaepernick from Nevada. He fits the bill for most of what KS wants.

You heard it here first!

Posted by: dpc2003 | December 30, 2010 11:05 AM | Report abuse

I'd like to see Beck play.

And I still think Newton and probably Locker still fall to the Skins.

Posted by: iH8dallas | December 30, 2010 11:06 AM | Report abuse

In what Universe is a 4-1/2 month old USA today clippin a "RECENT assessment"? The same one where a Model-T Ford is a "Late-Model trade in"?

A recent assessment is where Shanahan said that McNabb is welcome back next year as a back-up.

Posted by: beep-beep | December 30, 2010 11:02 AM

If you don't think 4.5 months is a recent assessment, there's no hope in drafting a decent NFL player.

The draft is at least 4.5 months before the start of the season.... d'oh!

Posted by: Alan4 | December 30, 2010 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Re: Spread Offense

I believe Sam Bradford, Drew Brees, Ben Roethlisberger and Aaron Rogers all ran spread offenses in college.

This notion that spread offense QBs can't hack it in the pros is antiquated. With an emphasis on protecting QBs, PI and defensive holding, the pro game is becoming more and more a passing game, and spread offense QBs who spend alot of time chucking the ball can make the jump.

Ths issue isn't the system, it's the player. Some spread offense systems in college can make a so-so player look great (Cliff Kingsbury, Graham Harrell), especially if they are matched up against college competition that are fielding DBs that have no business being on a football field.

Posted by: p1funk | December 30, 2010 11:09 AM | Report abuse

damn I forgot that Franklin resigned, boo

Posted by: mhartz1 | December 30, 2010 11:14 AM | Report abuse

If we get a NT he needs to be drafted.

Posted by: iH8dallas | December 30, 2010 11:19 AM | Report abuse

I'd like to see Beck play.

I would too. And if the midgettes get to Grossman enough we'll probably get a look.

Posted by: wireman65 | December 30, 2010 11:19 AM | Report abuse

IH8Dallas - I would take Ngata if he was available or if they would trade Terrence Cody, but we have nothing they would want...

Posted by: mhartz1 | December 30, 2010 11:24 AM | Report abuse

If we get a NT he needs to be drafted.

Posted by: iH8dallas

Why, with Ngata and Franklin, et al, out there..And with all those Haynesworth bucks Danny's got buried in the yard..

Posted by: frak | December 30, 2010 11:26 AM | Report abuse

I would like to see an 'open tryout' day at the Ashburn practice facility. I can't believe the Danny wouldn't seize on that marketing opportunity.

I am 100% convinced that if someone like Bill Polian scoured all of the federal prisons throughout the U.S., he'd be able to field a team that could win a SB.

Just throwing that out there...

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 30, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Re: Spread Offense

I believe Sam Bradford, Drew Brees, Ben Roethlisberger and Aaron Rogers all ran spread offenses in college.

This notion that spread offense QBs can't hack it in the pros is antiquated. With an emphasis on protecting QBs, PI and defensive holding, the pro game is becoming more and more a passing game, and spread offense QBs who spend alot of time chucking the ball can make the jump.

Ths issue isn't the system, it's the player. Some spread offense systems in college can make a so-so player look great (Cliff Kingsbury, Graham Harrell), especially if they are matched up against college competition that are fielding DBs that have no business being on a football field.

Posted by: p1funk | December 30, 2010 11:09 AM |

If you are referring to my post I didn't claim that Cam comes from a spread offense...he doesn't. He comes from a spread OPTION offense...which is different. If you weren't then carry on.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | December 30, 2010 11:29 AM | Report abuse

OK, when I said "spread offense" I mean the kind of craziness that's run by Missouri, OSU, Houston, ECU, etc.

The kind where you get weak-armed, short QBs that put up huge numbers in college.

Posted by: dpc2003 | December 30, 2010 11:29 AM | Report abuse

I'd like to see Beck play.

I would too. And if the midgettes get to Grossman enough we'll probably get a look.

Posted by: wireman65 | December 30, 2010 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, I'd like to see what Beck has to offer too -- especially since he appears to be the only Redskins QB currently under contract and projected to be in camp next summer.

Trouble is, he wouldn't know "the system" very well -- as this is only his second week as the second stringer.

Also don't know if he's Daddy's Boy or Daddy's Boy's Boy. And that, it seems, does make a difference around here.

As the scout team QB for much of the year, he could probably show you whatever you want to see on schemes for the Giants, Eagles, etc., but when it comes to running our "system," he would likely be as far out of his element as any other guy at Ashburn not named Rex Grossman.

Posted by: Vic1 | December 30, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

SkinsfaninKaneohe,

You and I are in partial agreement. The only difference is you blame McNabb entirely for being overrated, whereas I give most of the blame to Shanahan for not seeing the obvious.

But that doesn't mean McNabb's a bum, either.

And I suspect in a few years, I'll appear to be defending the overrated Shanahan when he doesn't live up to expectations.

Shanahan's not a bum, either, he's just overrated and living on his past success in Broncoland.... look at his recent record, and tell me I'm wrong.

The McNabb situation will eventually become "exhibit 1" when the RI faithful and local media decide Shanahan's a bum and needs to be fired sometime late next season. I hope I'm wrong, but nothing that's happened so far leads me to believe otherwise.

Posted by: Alan4 | December 30, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

We should have an improved record next year, so maybe this is the years we're in a decent position to grab the top-shelf QB..RYAN LEAF, You're the next contestant on WATCH QUARTERBACKS EXPLODE..

Posted by: frak | December 30, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

We should have an improved record next year, so maybe this is the years we're in a decent position to grab the top-shelf QB..RYAN LEAF, You're the next contestant on WATCH QUARTERBACKS EXPLODE..

Posted by: frak | December 30, 2010 11:32 AM |

KNOCK IT OFF!!!!! ALRIGHT?!?!?!?!?

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 30, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

mhartz and frak- how have our defensive FA panned out lately?

Draft the next nose tackle.

Posted by: iH8dallas | December 30, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Don't think you want to put essentially a rookie ;like Beck in front of that Giants passrush...That'll be one 7th round pick smoothie, please...

Posted by: frak | December 30, 2010 11:37 AM | Report abuse

The Skins will run the ball a lot, and throw screen passes early to offset that passrush.

Torain and Williams are the name of the game.

Posted by: iH8dallas | December 30, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

** Justin Blackmon Update **

If you thought I love DHall, then you will feel even more uncomfortable about my feelings toward Justin Blackmon.

The rampage continues:

After his 9 catch/117 yard/2 TD performance in the Alamo Bowl, Blackmon has now broken Larry Fitzgerald's NCAA receiving record for a sophmore.

He has 12 straight 100+ games (dating from last season).

His season tally of 111 catches, 1782 yards and 20 TDs (throw in a 69-yard rushing TD for good measure) is a production line that makes AJ Green and Julio Jones look like JV wannabes.

Posted by: p1funk | December 30, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

mhartz and frak- how have our defensive FA panned out lately?

Draft the next nose tackle.

Posted by: iH8dallas

Verdict still out on this GMs ability to draft, so coinflip..

Posted by: frak | December 30, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Blackmon, Moss and Armstrong would be a sick crew even a no-namer like McNabb could hit throws to...What top interior lineman are up fer FA??

Posted by: frak | December 30, 2010 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Blackmon, Moss and Armstrong would be a sick crew even a no-namer like McNabb could hit throws to...What top interior lineman are up fer FA??

Posted by: frak | December 30, 2010 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Is Mankins still up for grabs?

Posted by: iH8dallas | December 30, 2010 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Stop the "draft a QB" talk, already. The team has so many holes to fill they cannot begin to think about a QB. Read something last night about how the offensive line play has been better since Montgomery replaced Hicks in the lineup and almost threw up. How can any fan accept such mediocrity from the offensive line? This offensive line sucks, pure and simple and it has to be fixed before they can even think to run a decent offense. You people who think the Redskins should draft a QB first are the same people who were howling for it throughout the Vinny years when they should have been stockpiling offensive linemen. You are the same people who will be bellyaching about Lichtensteiger's play next year if they do spend a draft pick on a QB.

Furthermore, if you think the Ravens will let Ngata walk you have to be crazy. The guy is an elite player in his prime. Ozzie Newsome is no idiot. Work it out, will you? The team needs big guys in this next draft. They have mediocre interior linemen and no nose tackle. Why should they draft a QB?

As far as Beck is concerned, he throws a nice ball, but he has a low trajectory on his passes because of his 3/4 sidearm passing. What surprised me about him in the preseason was his mobility. He's the kind of guy who could be successful on designed rollouts and bootlegs. He'd be a risk, though so re-sign Grossman and cross your fingers on Beck for next year. Go get the big guys in the draft.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | December 30, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Totally off topic,

But does anyone else watch Blue Mountain State? I'm Netfliking here - OMFG! hilarious

Posted by: DikShuttle | December 30, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: p1funk | December 30, 2010 11:09 AM |

If you are referring to my post I didn't claim that Cam comes from a spread offense...he doesn't. He comes from a spread OPTION offense...which is different. If you weren't then carry on.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | December 30, 2010 11:29 AM | Report abuse


Just scanning the blog and seeing the word "spread"...that's all.

Didn't even really read the posts.

For all I know people could have been talking about cheese "spread".

Posted by: p1funk | December 30, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Torrey Smith from MD can put on a helluva show.

Posted by: iH8dallas | December 30, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Been on the run today while the Mrs is having a procedure...couple thoughts on the last couple threads:

"Statistical analysis: Donovan McNabb wasn't responsible for Redskins' offensive woes"

No sh*t, Sherlock.

He played better before coming here and his predecessor is playing better after leaving here. Anyone who doesn't see a parallel there is blind baby...blind from the fact that they're blind.

"Ex-tight ends coach surprised by criticism of Chris Cooley"

Quite frankly, so am I. Dude is one of only two dependable targets on the team. One horrible drop in the end zone doesn't encapsulate his career, just like Manning's horrific pick 6 in the SB won't definte his career.

"Graham Gano named NFC special teams player of the week"

Hopefully the first of many to come. Should be better in Year 3 (fingers crossed)...

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 30, 2010 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Blackmon, Kelly and Armstrong.

Vic, Beck will know the offesne. He has bee nhere since August. The QBs don't need to be taking 1st team reps to learn the offesne. Beck ahs been mentally sponging it all eyar.

The reason he is here is because both Shanny's like the guy and have followed him since he was in college.

Two things I like the most: Academic all Mountain West, Eagle Scout. Smart, and very very likely a disciplined worker.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | December 30, 2010 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Been on the run today while the Mrs is having a procedure...couple thoughts on the last couple threads:

"Statistical analysis: Donovan McNabb wasn't responsible for Redskins' offensive woes"

No sh*t, Sherlock.

He played better before coming here and his predecessor is playing better after leaving here. Anyone who doesn't see a parallel there is blind baby...blind from the fact that they're blind.

"Ex-tight ends coach surprised by criticism of Chris Cooley"

Quite frankly, so am I. Dude is one of only two dependable targets on the team. One horrible drop in the end zone doesn't encapsulate his career, just like Manning's horrific pick 6 in the SB won't definte his career.

"Graham Gano named NFC special teams player of the week"

Hopefully the first of many to come. Should be better in Year 3 (fingers crossed)...

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 30, 2010 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Been on the run today while the Mrs is having a procedure...couple thoughts on the last couple threads:

"Statistical analysis: Donovan McNabb wasn't responsible for Redskins' offensive woes"

No sh*t, Sherlock.

He played better before coming here and his predecessor is playing better after leaving here. Anyone who doesn't see a parallel there is blind baby...blind from the fact that they're blind.

"Ex-tight ends coach surprised by criticism of Chris Cooley"

Quite frankly, so am I. Dude is one of only two dependable targets on the team. One horrible drop in the end zone doesn't encapsulate his career, just like Manning's horrific pick 6 in the SB won't definte his career.

"Graham Gano named NFC special teams player of the week"

Hopefully the first of many to come. Should be better in Year 3 (fingers crossed)...

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 30, 2010 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Brownie with the hat trick!

Posted by: Alan4 | December 30, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

"Graham Gano named NFC special teams player of the week"

Hopefully the first of many to come. Should be better in Year 3 (fingers crossed)...

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 30, 2010 11:57 AM

Not even year three. He played in 4 games last year, 15 this year. In NFL years, that will be 1.25 after Sunday.

Posted by: beep-beep | December 30, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Blackmon, Moss and Armstrong would be a sick crew even a no-namer like McNabb could hit throws to...What top interior lineman are up fer FA??

Posted by: frak | December 30, 2010 11:46 AM | Report abuse


I say pas on Mankins. He'll be costly and, besides, I see a kiss-n-make-up with the Pats in his future.

The guy on my radar is Ryan Harris.

He's an FA from the Broncos who was drafted by Shanny in 2007 in the 3rd round. He was a 16 game starter in 2008. He played RG for Shanny (groomed in the zone-blocking scheme). He was out for most of 2009 with a toe injury. McDaniels moved him to RT and he came back in 2010 and has played well and helped Moreno have a strong end-of-the-year.

With all the turmoil in Denver, I think he ripe for the picking and won't be as expensive as Mankins; and he's younger (25 years old).

Young, versatile (RG and RT), already familiar w/SHanny's scheme, starting-caliber player.

What's not to like?

He'd be my top offseason FA priority along with Haloti Ngata.

Posted by: p1funk | December 30, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

And, brownwood, hope your wife did well in her procedure. Wishing you both a Happy New Year.

Posted by: beep-beep | December 30, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

brownie, everything ok with mrs brown?

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 30, 2010 12:08 PM | Report abuse

And, brownwood, hope your wife did well in her procedure. Wishing you both a Happy New Year.

Posted by: beep-beep | December 30, 2010 12:06 PM

Co-sign. Hopefully she'll be up and at 'em so ya'll can celebrate the New Year!

Posted by: Alan4 | December 30, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

I wouldn't be upset if we drafted Pouncey.

Matter of fact, I would be downright giddy.

Posted by: iH8dallas | December 30, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Torrey Smith from MD can put on a helluva show.

Posted by: iH8dallas | December 30, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Fear the Turtle

He's not as fast as Heyward-Bey was, but he's pretty fast. He's much more polished all-around than Heyward-Bey.

He's been playing on a gimpy ankle all season, but has still done well. I belive he's a 2-3 round prospect.

Posted by: p1funk | December 30, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Brown,

Hope everything is OK with the Wife.

Posted by: Flounder21 | December 30, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

This article proves Cooooley's trade value is a minimum 2nd & 5th.

And a Cam Newton morning to everybody........

Posted by: 4thFloor |


I love Cooley's skill set but he's not fetching a 2nd and a 5th. And those who dram about getting a 3rd for McNabb are equally delusional. How about a #2 for Haynesworth? Ditto.

The problem is Shanahan is with the Redskins, not elsewhere trading with the Redskins.

I like Logan Paulson as a long term blocking and occasional receiving tight end. He had great game at UCLA, but dropped due to injuries.

Cam Newton isn't a Shanahan QB, dreamers.

Posted by: TheCork | December 30, 2010 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Brown,

Hope everything is OK with the Wife.

Posted by: Flounder21 | December 30, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse


She's married to brownie...how could everything be OK?


Jokes aside - Hope the Brownwood household has a healthy New Year ahead...

Posted by: p1funk | December 30, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, Blackmon is the next Larry Fitzgerald/Android Johnson- big target make-um big touchdowns..

Posted by: frak | December 30, 2010 12:18 PM | Report abuse

And, brownwood, hope your wife did well in her procedure. Wishing you both a Happy New Year.

Posted by: beep-beep | December 30, 2010 12:06 PM

Co-sign. Hopefully she'll be up and at 'em so ya'll can celebrate the New Year!

Posted by: Alan4 | December 30, 2010 12:09 PM |

Procedure? I don't even know her.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 30, 2010 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Moore on IR -- hopefully we've seen the last of him bouncing off an opposing player -- I wouldn't sign him as a backup. He always seemed to be in the proper position, but needs to learn how to tackle with his arms.

I think Barnes could bulk up and be a good starting FS for many years to come...

Posted by: siris | December 30, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Yep - hope everything goes well, brownie! Speedy recovery or whatever's appropriate.

I think some criticsm of Cooley is warranted based on his behavior and decline over the past few weeks... not so much the drops.

Guano scares the crap outta me.

I'll repeat my prayer: Fire Danny SMith

Posted by: DikShuttle | December 30, 2010 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Cam Newton isn't a Shanahan QB, dreamers.

Posted by: TheCork |

He coached big-armed mobile John Elway to two Super Bowls and has lavished high praise on runs-like-a-scalded-dog Michael Vick- Why isn't he a Shanahan QB??

Posted by: frak | December 30, 2010 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Barnes is the man

Posted by: iH8dallas | December 30, 2010 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Barnes is the man

Posted by: iH8dallas | December 30, 2010 12:23 PM |

Fear his turtle.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 30, 2010 12:25 PM | Report abuse

The guy on my radar is Ryan Harris.

Young, versatile (RG and RT), already familiar w/SHanny's scheme, starting-caliber player.

What's not to like?

He'd be my top offseason FA priority along with Haloti Ngata.

Posted by: p1funk | December 30, 2010 12:04 PM |
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This would be nice!

Posted by: BootneyFarnsworth | December 30, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Barnes is the man

Posted by: iH8dallas | December 30, 2010 12:23 PM |

Fear his turtle.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 30, 2010 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Sometimes during the 1600 I would fear my turtlehead poking through.

Posted by: iH8dallas | December 30, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

The guy on my radar is Ryan Harris.

Young, versatile (RG and RT), already familiar w/SHanny's scheme, starting-caliber player.

What's not to like?

He'd be my top offseason FA priority along with Haloti Ngata.

Posted by: p1funk | December 30, 2010 12:04 PM |
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This would be nice!

Posted by: BootneyFarnsworth | December 30, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

trade fred davis and go with cooley and paulsen as TEs.

don't want newton - he's the next j campbell, j russell, d culpepper,.....

i'd rather package mcnabb, haynesworth and our first rounder to carolina for the top pick to get luck -- wishful thinking! still think locker could be a steal if he's out of the top 10 - he needs some work, but might turn out to be a great pro if shanny works with him.

has anyone heard how big Mike Williams is doing? Any chance he makes it back to the team for 2011? Know he had the blod clot issue, but haven't seen any traffic on him in a while unless i missed it?

Posted by: rbskin | December 30, 2010 12:30 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: dpc2003 | December 30, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Lies, damn lies and there are statistics. Using any silly baseline, we can come up with any conclusion. Those articles are normally pretty good but the fact that the article said "benches by Shanahan and his son Kyle" proves how slanted the WaPo really is. What other paper ever uses an O Coordinator so much?

Clegg

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | December 30, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Yes to Ryan Harris, no to Haloti Ngata.

The Ravens aren't giving him up anyway. Harris might want to come play for the coach that drafted him. He's probably guaranteed a starting spot if he comes here.

Posted by: iH8dallas | December 30, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Barnes is the man

Posted by: iH8dallas | December 30, 2010 12:23 PM |

Fear his turtle.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 30, 2010 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Sometimes during the 1600 I would fear my turtlehead poking through.

Posted by: iH8dallas | December 30, 2010 12:28 PM |

Great, now like the guy from Cal that Barnes hit (wasn't that LeShaun McCoy?) and like Mc5 from the SB....I'm puking.

Thanks.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 30, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

I think Barnes could bulk up and be a good starting FS for many years to come...

Posted by: siris | December 30, 2010 12:21 PM
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i like Barnes at safety also....what's his speed like?

Posted by: BootneyFarnsworth | December 30, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Notice how a lot of the NFL's thrid string QB's are mobile QB's

Dennis Dixon, Joe Webb, Troy Smith

Posted by: rickyroge | December 30, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

I am 100% convinced that if someone like Bill Polian scoured all of the federal prisons throughout the U.S., he'd be able to field a team that could win a SB.

Just throwing that out there...

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 30, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse


Hey, it worked for Jimmy Johnson and the Cowboys.

Posted by: Original_etrod | December 30, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Great, now like the guy from Cal that Barnes hit (wasn't that LeShaun McCoy?) and like Mc5 from the SB....I'm puking.

Thanks.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 30, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

You're welcome.

Posted by: iH8dallas | December 30, 2010 12:38 PM | Report abuse

ZEKE’S UNIQUE PERSPECTIVES, as always, brought to you by Yahoo!’s finest

As this season stumbles to a close, it is becoming clear how many holes this team needs to fill.

This offseason is going to be about fundamentals. On the upside, I can’t imagine anyone in DC has the lust for a big $ free agent or blockbuster trade. The last 2 guys we did that with, Albert and McNabb, have been a drain. The no-names Shanahan has grabbed haven’t been great, but they haven’t cost an arm and a leg.

Grossman has the look of a placeholder QB and we’ll lose a bunch of games next year because we’ll have a third tier QB. We sure went through a lot in replacing Campbell and Collins. Truly, it was a mirage of motion. Lots of splashing and screaming and stuff getting stirred up. In reality, not much was happening and we’re basically in the same spot.

Virtually every group has holes. The OL, DL and the secondary (assuming Rogers leaves) all have multiple holes and if Santana departs, our WR group is all holes.

At LB, we’ve got an aging star surrounded by an array of questions. Will Rocky stay? What is Orakpo doing in pass coverage? Why is Lo’ playing OLB? Can Henson return healthy and play at this level? Will any of the young guys (Jackson, Riley, Wilson, Blades) step up?

We’re good at TE, though Cooley might want to hang onto those balls thrown to him. We’re good enough at RB that we shouldn’t be investing there over other spots.

K is a spot worthy of upgrading, P must be upgraded. At least the return guy looks like the real deal.

One of my mottos is that it is much easier to destroy something than it is to build something. Not to get overly philosophical, but this is true in pretty much every aspect of life.

Which is why I’ve never been a fan of “blowing it up and starting over”. It’s so easy to blow something up, so hard to build something solid.

Still, this team is crumbling away. Why Moss, Rocky or Rogers would stick around is beyond me. Among the guys who have had quality careers that won’t be here much longer: Portis, Fletcher, McNabb, Sellers, Buchanan, Daniels and I’m sure I’m forgetting someone.

Even newcomers like Jammal Brown and whoever our backup QB is these days aren’t locked in.

So what to look for on finale Sunday? I don’t know. Some guys will get game experience, but our weekly turnover is so large that I’d expect confusion to be the big winner. One game isn’t much of a sample, good or bad.

There will be lots of guys drawing their final paycheck as a member of the burgundy and gold. One of the ways to build a team is to get a bunch of overachieving no names, then fill in the gaps with free agents and trades once you’ve got a core of young overachievers. Takes a few years to do and it requires some luck. But it doesn’t seem like management has any better ideas.

Bring on the no names.

That’s a wrap on ZEKE’S UNIQUE PERSPECTIVES, as always, brought to you by Yahoo!’s finest

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 30, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse

I am 100% convinced that if someone like Bill Polian scoured all of the federal prisons throughout the U.S., he'd be able to field a team that could win a SB.

Just throwing that out there...

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 30, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse


Hey, it worked for Jimmy Johnson and the Cowboys.

Posted by: Original_etrod | December 30, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Heyooooo! (Ed McMahon voice)

Good one Orginal!

Posted by: rickyroge | December 30, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

no to Haloti Ngata.

The Ravens aren't giving him up anyway. Harris might want to come play for the coach that drafted him. He's probably guaranteed a starting spot if he comes here.

Posted by: iH8dallas | December 30, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse


No to saying no to Haloti Ngata.

If the franchise tag is not in play b/c of CBA negotiations, then the Ravens can go suck on a stone.

I say we throw stacks of cash at him until he says "when".

Dude is a baller. 27 years old. Pro Bowler. He's played NT for the Ravens when Kelly Gregg was injured and he was a stud.

More than anything we need a stud NT to make our last-place defense work.

Posted by: p1funk | December 30, 2010 12:48 PM | Report abuse

I'll take your Cam Newton and raise you a Robert Quinn and Christian Ponder.

Posted by: TWISI | December 30, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

I'll see your Robert Quinn (please please let him drop to us), but I'll turn the Ponder card face down and draw a Stefen Wisniewski card instead.

As for FA, if we can add either V-Jax or Ngata (the later not being likely, but we can hope - not sure if the Ravens can franchis him, relative to the uncertain CBA situation?) in the off-season, that will good enough for me.

Posted by: PDXskin | December 30, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

I watched an interview this season about Cooley and his teammate giving odds on the team winning that day while driving to the game. The answers he gave were not always 100% win. Loser attitudes lead to losing. Trade or cut all players w/ losing attitudes.

Posted by: Realness1 | December 30, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 30, 2010 12:43 PM

You've been doing this gig for a long time, Zeke. Don't you think that by now you've earned a better sponsor than Yahoo!? Yahoo! just seems so 1998.

Posted by: beep-beep | December 30, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Beeps.

Posted by: wireman65 | December 30, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Notice how a lot of the NFL's thrid string QB's are mobile QB's

Dennis Dixon, Joe Webb, Troy Smith

Posted by: rickyroge | December 30, 2010 12:37 PM
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not all of them...

Jonathan Crompton, Mike Kafka, Tony Pike

Posted by: BootneyFarnsworth | December 30, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

I am 100% convinced that if someone like Bill Polian scoured all of the federal prisons throughout the U.S., he'd be able to field a team that could win a SB.

Just throwing that out there...

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 30, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse


Hey, it worked for Jimmy Johnson and the Cowboys.

Posted by: Original_etrod | December 30, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

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didnt Polian draft big Mike Williams in the first round??
What worked for Jimmy Johnson (besides the Herschel Walker deal) was having the likes of a 10 game preseason in 1989 to evaluate his personnel. He knew his season was done around the 1-5 mark and each subsequent game was meaningless so, he played every damn player on the 53 man roster for the next 10 games. Thus seeing them at real-time NFL speed, not preseason "dont get injured" speed. Maybe Shanny is thinking the same with the shuffled OLine in this last game.. But, he should also let Beck start and see how he does.. Rex is a known commodity, at this point.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | December 30, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse

I say we throw stacks of cash at him until he says "when".

Posted by: p1funk | December 30, 2010 12:48 PM

p1funk = p1fund = Vinnie Cerrato

NOOOOOOOOOO!

Posted by: beep-beep | December 30, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse

I say we throw stacks of cash at him until he says "when".

Dude is a baller. 27 years old. Pro Bowler. He's played NT for the Ravens when Kelly Gregg was injured and he was a stud.

More than anything we need a stud NT to make our last-place defense work.

Posted by: p1funk | December 30, 2010 12:48 PM | Report abuse

This seems oddly familiar.

Posted by: iH8dallas | December 30, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse

I didn't read through all the comments, but to clarify A. Franklin NT from San Fran didn't resign long term just for the season. He will be a free agent, though I'm not sure if they are able to Franchise him again or not (might depend on the new CBA). Ngata has no shot of leaving the Ravens, despite how much the Skins need him (though then again they'd still need to pick up a NT, b/c that isn't his base position).

Posted by: Steveo11 | December 30, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Great, now like the guy from Cal that Barnes hit (wasn't that LeShaun McCoy?)


Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 30, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse


That would be Jahvid Best who nourished the grass at Byrd Stadium with his stomach contents, courtesy of Kevin Barnes.

Barnes was never considered a speedy cornerback, but a physical one. A guy who could tackle and hit hard - unlike Kareem Moore.

As a converted corner, though, he should have better coverage instincts than someone like LL30 displayed as a free safety.

I'm hoping he has a nice showing on Sunday. Haslett has been talking him up, and hopefully he can keep it together on the field since that FS spot seems up for grabs.

Posted by: p1funk | December 30, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

You've been doing this gig for a long time, Zeke. Don't you think that by now you've earned a better sponsor than Yahoo!? Yahoo! just seems so 1998.

Posted by: beep-beep | December 30, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Agree that Yahoo the search engine is done, but Yahoo Sports does a nice job...my office does our NFL pool through them, and their content is as good or better than what you see on other sports sites (at least, NFL-wise).

Posted by: PDXskin | December 30, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 30, 2010 12:32 PM
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not McCoy..it was Jahvid Best

Posted by: BootneyFarnsworth | December 30, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

I think Cooley is the greatest. Only he would be sorry about one of his few drops. Very Very Very few.

On the other hand if I could get a great deal I would trade him. This team need so many players I would accept a great deal for Cooley, but it would have to be great.

Posted by: geoski | December 30, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Cooley dropping those passes is like Tiger missing a cut......how many times will that happen?? Cooley's smart, great blocker, great team member, great hands. Leave him alone. He'll probably catch 10 this week.

Posted by: Riggo2 | December 30, 2010 2:12 PM | Report abuse

If we couldn't get Andrew Luck, our next best option is Ricky Stanzi. I'm of the opinion that Ricky is pro ready, Cam Newton is not. I also believe Ricky will be available in the early second round, which will allow Shanny to use the first round pick on other needs.

Posted by: abxinc | December 30, 2010 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Cooley is my favorite Redskins ... all the way . . . anyone following the Redskins closely should realize that he has been dropping more passes -- unusually -- since his concussion. I think there is a direct relationship.

Posted by: ronsarromsncom | December 31, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Cooley is my favorite Redskins ... all the way . . . anyone following the Redskins closely should realize that he has been dropping more passes -- unusually -- since his concussion. I think there is a direct relationship.

Posted by: ronsarromsncom | December 31, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

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