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Posted at 4:29 PM ET, 11/16/2010

Little time left to begin a playoff push

By Rick Maese

There isn't much time.

Not much time to recover from Monday's thrashing and prepare for the Titans. Not much time to turn the season around. Not much time to put this team back in the postseason conversation.

"Time's running out as far as winning football games goes," tight end Chris Cooley said Tuesday afternoon during his weekly appearance on "The LaVar Arrington Show with Chad Dukes" on 106.7 The Fan. "We can't afford to lose many more games if we plan to make the playoffs."

The Redskins have no choice but to put this week's loss to the Eagles behind them. Because the game was on Monday night, they have a shorter work week than usual. Most weeks, players would report to Redskins Park the day after the game to dissect film. But on Tuesday, coaches were at Redskins Park working on this week's game plan for the Tennessee Titans. Players will report to work Wednesday morning and try to implement that game plan.

Cooley said he's not certain how much tme players and coaches will spend reflecting on Monday's game.

"I don't know what you do with this," he said. "I don't know how you evaluate it. In my personal opinion, I'm moving forward to Tennessee as soon as possible. If I have to watch film, I'll watch the film. But I'm moving forward."

"It's a big week for us," he added. "It's a day short, it's time to get back to work, I think, ASAP.'

By Rick Maese  | November 16, 2010; 4:29 PM ET
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Comments

Wizards have a better chance of making the playoffs than this heartless bunch. Shanahan this franchise embarrassment fall squarely on your shoulders.

Posted by: Predator48 | November 16, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

playoffs...PLAYOFFS...hahaha....that's just not happening.

.500 is more of a realistic goal for the team....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 16, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

No playoffs, but that shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.

This team has many more holes to fill before it can contend...and that is what you build for - to contend, not sneek in as a #6 seed and go home just a week into the playoffs.

I figure 7-9, based on the schedule left, but who knows?

Posted by: shaunsherman12 | November 16, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

"Little time left to begin a playoff push"


Lather, rinse, repeat.

Posted by: 4-12 | November 16, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Little time left to begin a playoff push

Talk about premature talk in light of a 59 point beatdown.

We got TENN coming up, and that's all that is important.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | November 16, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Somewhere, Coach Mora is yelling, "Playoffs! Playoffs? Playoffs!" and he doesn't even know why.

Playoffs? You're talking about playoffs?

"Can this team improve on the 4-12 of last year?" is a fair question. With losses to the Saint Louie Lambs and the Lions, there aren't any gimme games for this team.

This team lacks an identity more than any 1 player or position weakness and I'm not sure I understand where this will come from. There's a character problem that needs fixing.

Posted by: shdenny | November 16, 2010 4:49 PM | Report abuse

7-9, 8-8, maybe 9-7. They are who we thought they were.

Posted by: TWISI | November 16, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Too early to say one way or the other re playoffs. They're 4-5 in a conference that is still wide open.

I'm not happy about last night's game, but I'm also not ready to hit the panic button yet; I felt a lot worse after losing the Texans game (blowing a 17 point 3rd quarter lead) and losing the Colts game by 3.

Blowouts happen. Ask the Chiefs, ask the Pats, etc., etc....What I find hilarious is all the idiots on WTEM marveling over a 28 point 1st quarter. Apaprently they don't recall the 35-point 2nd quarter the Redskins laid on the Broncos in Super Bowl XXII, a game that had a lot more signifigance than last night's yawner.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | November 16, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

This franchise will never get any better if they don't purge. We have been waiting for a purge since Snyders initial glaring mistakes as an owner. We continue to band-aid and in doing so, we lose the opportunity to get young and let talent develop. We are TERRIBLE at developing talent. It's time for Cooley, Moss, the whole offensive line(minus TWilliams), the whole defense (minus Landry), both kickers to BE GONE. I would rather watch guys off the street fight and scratch and claw their way to earning stripes in the NFL as opposed to watching this overpaid bunch of spoiled brats that go-through-the-motions-to-collect-a-check every Sunday. This teams personnel is not a fit, never was, and it's FINALLY time to over-react and get rid of everyone. This bunch is below-average talent collectively and there is no use over-paying for this bunch. Yuck, yuck, yuck.

Posted by: ECU17 | November 16, 2010 4:59 PM | Report abuse

I figured 8-8 would be a good sign of improvement or a longshot of 9-7 & squeaking in as a wildcard in a wide-open NFC. At this point, both are highly unlikely unless Jim "Has-let us down" and/or Shanny Jr. is fired or Danny Boy sells the team soon.

Posted by: Afghandude | November 16, 2010 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Why are we even talking about "playoffs"? I'll just let Jim Mora explain it to you. "Playoffs" you've got to be kidding me.

Posted by: MHEDRLT | November 16, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Since haikus seem to be all the rage on RI, here's mine entitled

Over the River and Through the Woods to Dan Snyder's House We Go

Lifelong Redskins fan,
Zero games under Snyder,
No games next year too.

Remember when Jack Kent Cooke was the owner and the entire gameday experience was enjoyable?

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | November 16, 2010 4:59 PM

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | November 16, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

"7-9, 8-8, maybe 9-7. They are who we thought they were."

Exactly.

I never thought they would be any better then this. People expect miracles on here.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | November 16, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse

This franchise will never get any better if they don't purge.


The team did kinda sorta conduct a 'purge' when the Shanahans took over, didn't it?

The end result has been an offense lacking playmakers and a defense lacking speed.

And because of the moves to add a couple of players(Brown/McNabb, a couple of next Spring's very necessary draft picks have been spent.

Oh well.

Another year, another top 10 draft selection.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | November 16, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

So it would be a miracle to not be completely destroyed by the Eagles after our bye week? It would be a miracle if our team actually showed heart? It would be a miracle if our BEST players were on the field and the scheme tailored to their strengths and weaknesses. What a damn miracle.

Posted by: JesusFreakKaren | November 16, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Yes, the entire gameday experience was more enjoyable under Jack Kent Cooke/Joe Gibbs 1.0, but I can still remember the 1985 10-6 Redskins getting blown out in the opener 44-14... by Dallas.

I'm with Cooley: Move on to Tennessee. There's nothing to do about last night's debacle except forget it.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | November 16, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

"7-9, 8-8, maybe 9-7. They are who we thought they were."

Exactly.

I never thought they would be any better then this. People expect miracles on here.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | November 16, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse
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People shouldn't expect miracles, but we did have a right to expect that the defense would show improvement, not regress from a top 1/3 or so, good, solid squad to the worst in the entire league. We did have the right to expect the offense to show some signs of improvement. We had the right to not have to watch our team get humiliated on national prime time TV in the most lopsided game of the season and one of the worst performances in Redskins history. Even Zorn didn't have this bad a result. I personally expected somewhere along the lines of 7-9 or 8-8. Now I'm not so sure. And frankly, there have been a couple of teams that have turned it around in one or two years (Dolphins most recently), so it wasn't just wishful thinking for fans to hope for a 9-7/10-6 playoff team after Cerrato was finally sent home and a real GM and SB winning coach arrives. I didn't expect that, but it wasn't that unreasonable an expectation.

Posted by: skinsfan713 | November 16, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Don't blame the lousy game day experience on Snyder. It's all Cooke. Under Cooke the Redskins played in JFK. Then he built that white elephant stadium in a town he called "RalJon." He died before the Redskins ever played out there.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 16, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | November 16, 2010 5:18 PM

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The difference is that a trouncing under Gibbs 1.0 was an aberration.

Under the despotic regime of Snyder, this is a regularity. For the second time in consecutive years, the Redskins have been EMBARRASSED ON MONDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL BY A DIVISION RIVAL (OF ALL OPPONENTS)!!!!

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | November 16, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse

You mean they played at RFK... if they played at JFK they'd be dodging incoming air traffic, which would make for some damn interesting football.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | November 16, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Don't blame the lousy game day experience on Snyder. It's all Cooke. Under Cooke the Redskins played in JFK. Then he built that white elephant stadium in a town he called "RalJon." He died before the Redskins ever played out there.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 16, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse
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Yeah, but if I recall, all of the local governments protested having a new stadium. Raljon was the only place he could get, and I seem to remember that PG County raked Mr. Cooke (RIP) through the coals financially in order to get the approvals. If my memory serves, Mr. Cooke tried and tried for many years to get something done at the RFK site - and I think in Alexandria, too - but the only deal that could be made was Raljon. I have nothing against PG County (I used to live there as a matter of fact) but it certainly isn't an ideal location for the stadium, in my opinion.

Posted by: skinsfan713 | November 16, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse

You mean they played at RFK... if they played at JFK they'd be dodging incoming air traffic, which would make for some damn interesting football.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | November 16, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't Landry and DHall "dodging incoming air traffic" all night last night?

Badabing....

(I'm here all week folks...)

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | November 16, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse

It hurts to think that the cowgirls will have a better record at the end of 2010. This is what they get after ten years of wasting and giving away draft picks and signing old, slow free agents

Posted by: kingpenn1 | November 16, 2010 5:42 PM | Report abuse

This team isn't ever going to be anything more than a one and done wildcard at best until it has an offensive line that can block. That's been the problem the last three years, and trading picks for McNabb shows that the Skins still don't get it.

Trading for/signing other teams' old broken-down castoffs isn't getting it done.
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | November 16, 2010 5:47 PM | Report abuse

What NFL team would be dumb enough to sign and start a 38 y/o wr and give ample playing time to a 37 y/o DE?

Posted by: kingpenn1 | November 16, 2010 5:48 PM | Report abuse

4-12 AGAIN

Posted by: alocowboy | November 16, 2010 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Seems like the Lions, Bucs, Rams, Panthers and Chiefs are happy with their QBs, so maybe Jake Locker would fall to the Skins in the 2011 draft?

Buffalo should probably draft him, but then again they're Buffalo, and cannot be counted on to do the sensible thing.

Getting a young QB to sit behind McNabb for awhile might be a good idea.

Just sayin'.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | November 16, 2010 5:58 PM | Report abuse

I find that you take every opportunity to defend JC laughable bordering on disturbing at this point.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | November 16, 2010 4:27 PM

....as is your attempt to pin over 10 years of offensive woes on him.

Posted by: Alan4 | November 16, 2010 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Sure they can go to the playoffs ... with a ticket.

Posted by: VirginiaLonghorn | November 16, 2010 6:00 PM | Report abuse

"I'm not happy about last night's game, but I'm also not ready to hit the panic button yet"

Really?

What kind of loss would it take for you to hit the panic button?

You realize the Eagles could have scored perhaps 100 points on the Redskins last night except for human decency on the Eagles part.

I would think this would be the part of the season to start panicking. It's perfectly okay considering what's on the field.

Posted by: Ombudsman1 | November 16, 2010 6:01 PM | Report abuse

Would these guys START on any of the 31 other football teams:

Carrikter
Alexander
A. Carter
Lichtensteiger
Kemo
Rabach
Hicks
Moore
Armstrong
Golston
***Alot of the other guys probably wouldn't make another teams roster

Posted by: kingpenn1 | November 16, 2010 6:02 PM | Report abuse

Where's the opti-bus, Danny's pawns?

King Penn- yeah A Carter would, maybe golston, carriker

that's it

Posted by: pabrian2003 | November 16, 2010 6:11 PM | Report abuse

You have to admit, those boys at RI do like to go against the grain. When we're looking for football info before a game, they are doling out quotes about players feelings. You'd think the last word on anyone's mind would be playoffs after a game like that, but I guess they enjoy seeing us go all Jim Mora.

How the team responds will say a lot about the players and coaches this week. Brady used the loss to the Browns as motivation to come out and make a statement against the Steelers. The TN game should show us all who on this team and staff really has character.

Posted by: NickBarking | November 16, 2010 6:17 PM | Report abuse

Picking up the Pieces

So...how do we move forward?

Seems like we have a couple of decisions to make.

1. Stick with the 3-4 D?
Given the overwhelming success so far, I can't think of a reason why we would want to. And the "Ameba" D? Does that fool anybody? Peyton shredded it and...we don't need to talk about MNF again, now do we?

Seems to me that if you want to put the best players in the best position to make plays, the 4-3 is a better match. Shouldn't be that big a transition, we've been play the 4-3 quite a bit this year anyway.

Let's get Orakpo, Haynesworth, Cariker and Carter on the line where they do the most damage. Rocky Mac, Fletcher and Wilson at LB (or Zo), CR 22 and D Hall at corner and Landry and ? at Safety. (Anybody got a FS out there? cause I got nothing here...)

2. O line
If Dockery truly is unsalvageable as a Guard can we at least grow a pair and cut him? What are we saving him for? Him watching the games in a sweatsuit from the sidelines for the rest of the year ain't doing anybody any good.

That will free up a roster spot for Cooke or Capers. Dress them for the game...and TRY them. Seriously, how much worse can we get a G/C? If Capers was quick enough to play RT in college, maybe he has the speed to play G in this scheme. At 6-4 310, he stands a better chance than Lichturmom at 6-2 285. Physics, coach.

This time of year, teams all over the NFL are asking rookie O linemen to step in and play (often for injured players) and they hold up well - often taking over as the starter next year. These guys have over 4 months in the system, lets see what they've got.

I don't ever remember Cooke getting trucked 4 yards deep into the backfield like Rabach does regularly. Granted, he played against back-ups. At 6-6 320, I'm thinking maybe he can hold the line a little better than Rabach at 6-4 288.

Maybe we'll be pleasantly surprised. Either way, we'll have a better idea of our draft needs come the spring.

3. WR Help
Why is Terrence Austin still on the practice squad and guys like Galloway and Williams are dressing and (sort of) playing? We get nothing from them, so how much worse can Austin be? He has SPEED. I'd rather go with speed and potential than slow and not effective.

After 9 games, the Galloway experiment is over. 9 catches for 141 yards? In the last 3 games - 2 catches for 2 yards. Last night he was dropping 3rd down catches that were hitting him in the numbers. There's no return here. Case closed.

We all saw how speed kills last night. Maybe we need a package or two featuring Moss, Banks and Austin. Get your best blocking TE and RB in there and turn the dogs loose.

Bottom line here is the season appears to be slipping away, and the players on the field don't always appear to represent the best talent and play making abilities.

Last night, we were slow, old and out schemed.

Thoughts?

Posted by: edvar | November 16, 2010 6:24 PM | Report abuse

One bad game doesn't define a season.

Back in 1991, we played the DET Lions in the season opener. And beat them 45-0. I think it was dan dierdorf who said "it wasn't that close".

But DET got it act together, went 12-3 the rest of the way. Won their first playoff game, too. Then came to RFK. And we whupped them again, 41-10.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 16, 2010 6:24 PM | Report abuse

>>> Would these guys START on any of the 31 other football teams:

Amen. Just gotta wonder if anyone more competent is available on the market now.

Now I'm worried about a slingshot affect in the offseason where they'll sign all the overrated, overpriced free agent OLs available on the market instead of trying to develop Hogs II via the draft.

I still don't understand why they aren't rolling D. McNabb *out* of the pocket or running bootlegs every pass play. Clearly the O-line can't protect a pocket (on the rare occasions he did last night, DM made some big passes), sometimes it looks like they're just waving at the charging D linemen like bull fighters sans cape, so why not design the offensive playbook with QB survival in mind?

I dunno. Maybe they should try Haynesworth on the O-Line...

Posted by: blackjack65 | November 16, 2010 6:28 PM | Report abuse

What pisses me off is, what the hell is Joey Galloway still doing on the roster and on the field?
What is it that justifies him being on this team. He has done absolutely NOTHING.

Week in and Week out he does NOTHING. And this is better than what Devin Thomas could have produced, or the kid Austin?

What the hell is Roywell or WTF Williams still doing on the team. He's done less than Grandpa Galloway if one can imagine that.

Leakmaster and Rabach are swinging gates, and Rabach continues to get holding penalties because he is constantly getting manhandled. WTF is going on with Dockery?
Why isn't this coach being asked questions about the status of Dockery. How do you justify the play of Leakmaster over Dockery?

I thought Zorn's personnell decisions were crazy, but I think Shannyman has him beat.

I sure would like to know what the hell is going on here?

Posted by: 72Redskins | November 16, 2010 6:32 PM | Report abuse

I sure would like to know what the hell is going on here?

Posted by: 72Redskins | November 16, 2010 6:32 PM
I think Vince Lombardi asked the same question.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocV5bGHdYag

Posted by: kingpenn1 | November 16, 2010 6:40 PM | Report abuse

The D really stunk up the joint last night. The worst part was Vick had enough time to polish off a soduku waiting for his receivers to open up. Nobody on the DL is worth a damn at putting pressure on the QB, AH included. Add to that the genius decision to rush only 3 on many plays and with Vick at QB you have a sure-fire recipe for disaster, which is what it was.

Posted by: FourthAndOne | November 16, 2010 6:41 PM | Report abuse

I think what we're seeing over the last couple games is that the opposing teams now have more film on this year's Redskins team and can exploit the Skins' many weak spots, on both offense and defense. The same thing happened at the midpoint of Zorn's first season, if you'll recall. You can only cover up weaknesses with coaching schemes for so long in the NFL.

Every time the Skins win a game, we all like to start dreaming of the playoffs, but the cold reality is that this is a multi-year rebuilding project. And that's assuming stability and competence from the management team.

Posted by: acoberst1 | November 16, 2010 6:44 PM | Report abuse

Seems like the Lions, Bucs, Rams, Panthers and Chiefs are happy with their QBs, so maybe Jake Locker would fall to the Skins in the 2011 draft?

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | November 16, 2010

Obviously you haven't seen Jake Locker play. Greay athlete but he sucks at QB. Think Eric Crouch or a poor man's Tebow.

Posted by: dcwun | November 16, 2010 6:45 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins have a better chance of actually selling out than making the playoffs. Who needs a pair to the next game? :)

Posted by: capscapscaps2 | November 16, 2010 6:48 PM | Report abuse

Would these guys START on any of the 31 other football teams:

Carrikter
Alexander
A. Carter
Lichtensteiger
Kemo
Rabach
Hicks
Moore
Armstrong
Golston
***Alot of the other guys probably wouldn't make another teams roster

Posted by: kingpenn1 | November 16, 2010 6:02 PM


Carter would and a maybe with Carriker.....

Posted by: dcwun | November 16, 2010 6:50 PM | Report abuse

Our main focus should be to finish ahead of the Cowboys so that we don't have to listen to those jackwagons flap their gums from January to September.

Posted by: Original_etrod | November 16, 2010 6:51 PM | Report abuse

Our main focus should be to finish ahead of the Cowboys so that we don't have to listen to those jackwagons flap their gums from January to September.

Posted by: Original_etrod | November 16, 2010 6:51 PM | Report abuse

The skins defense may be the only defense that changes how they play from week to week. If they are playing a rookie, they will play a certain way and get burned. If they are playing Vick or Manning, they play a certain way and get burned. Do you think the steelers change from week to week, I think the steelers play THEIR defense and dare you to make a move.

Posted by: kingpenn1 | November 16, 2010 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Seems like the Lions, Bucs, Rams, Panthers and Chiefs are happy with their QBs, so maybe Jake Locker would fall to the Skins in the 2011 draft?

Buffalo should probably draft him, but then again they're Buffalo, and cannot be counted on to do the sensible thing.

Getting a young QB to sit behind McNabb for awhile might be a good idea.

Just sayin'.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | November 16, 2010 5:58 PM |

The Bills are taking Andy Luck in the 2011 draft and every other QB is pretty ordinary. The Skins could have a chance at Matt Barkman in the 2012 draft and he wouldn't have to sit behind McNabb if he is still around b/c the dude is already a polished QB. Whoever gets him will be getting a real good pick if they need a QB.

Posted by: FourthAndOne | November 16, 2010 6:53 PM | Report abuse

I am going to go ahead and hit that panic button on Jim Haslett now. I've supported him but that was bad coaching on his part. This D has many holes but there are too many good players for it to fail this miserably. I think the turning point for me was when London Fletcher ran 30 yards backwards off the ball before the play while I am screaming at the TV not to do that because its really stupid and then they score another long TD. What kind of experimental new D is that? Maybe there's a reason nobody's used that before Haslett? Maybe you're not some genius? This 3-4 is badly coached and two of our best linemen, Carter and Al barely get in the game so a bunch of bums can play? There is nothing Carriker can do that Carter or Hanyseworth can't do better, I don't care how classy he is. Carter is not a LB and never should be asked to be. Fire Haslett I say and find someone who knows how to run a less sissified and crazy version of the 3-4 or better yet abandon it until you have a few players (besides Orakpo and Landry) who are right for it.

Also WAPO needs to stop hating on the Redskins and making stuff up. There is lots of stuff to hate about the redskins play last night without making stuff up. They still have Wilbon's totally made up article about the contractMcnabb signed and how its worth a billion dollars and the Redskins are the worst team ever up and people are still reading it and believeing it to be true. Maybe you should take that down while you are still considered to have some speck of journalistic integrity. Lately the WAPO has been so disgusting. I blame Wise mostly, but take down Wilbon's FALSE article you morons.

Posted by: bosshog7169 | November 16, 2010 6:56 PM | Report abuse

Hey skins, Pat Williams, 38 year DT with Minn. vikings wants to play next year. That's the kind of guy that the skins love to sign....fu-cking jokers

Posted by: kingpenn1 | November 16, 2010 7:01 PM | Report abuse

ZEKE’S UNIQUE PERSPECTIVES brought to you by the fine people at Yahoo!

24 hours before Monday’s kickoff, there was already drama. Part of it came from the benching of McNabb vs DET and the bizarre explanations from the coach. For a guy who acts like the great and powerful Wizard of Oz, Shanahan’s bumbling comments resembled those of the man who got discovered behind the curtain. Heck, even that guy gave it up after getting busted by a brainless, heartless and cowardly group.

Adding to the drama, Monday’s rival was McNabb’s former team, led by a QB he helped resurrect. Plus, a Skins win would create a very tight division race. Throw in a national TV audience and the stage was set.

But as the rain fell, it became apparent that the Skins were made from the same stuff as the Wicked Witch of the West. A little water and the Skins melted. It took 30 seconds from the time the water hit the witch until she had melted away; it took just 18 seconds for the Skins to trail 7-0.

In Skins lore, 2 numbers stand out. 35 and 356 -- the points scored and yds gained in the greatest quarter of football ever played, vs Denver, in Super Bowl XXII. In 1 quarter + 1 play philly, had 328 yds and 35 points. That is treading on holy turf.

In 20 minutes of football, encompassing the last 4+ minutes of the DET game and the initial 15+ minutes vs philly, the Skins were outscored 53-0. On offense, 7 possessions, 3 turnovers, 31 yds. Them: 53 POINTS. Us: 31 YDs. Ugh.

In the midst of this ineptitude, one of the most lucrative contracts in Skins’ history was signed by McNabb. If the name on the jersey said Campbell or Ramsey or Brunell, the hue and cry would have been for a new QB, not a contract extension. Raising the obvious question: Why now and why so much $$? I don’t know. But some reports suggest the Skins have an ‘out’, which makes a lot of sense.

Many have speculated about the ‘behind the scenes’ dynamics that led to McNabb’s contract. An intriguing rumor is that Shanny was mostly out of the loop, that Snyder and Allen did this deal. I don’t buy it. Shanny chooses his QB. He gave his blessing to down to the dotted i’s and crossed t’s. Neither Snyder nor Allen is going to cross Shanny.

I’m also not buying the theory that there was a curse on teams that use Native American nicknames this weekend, even though the 5-3 Chiefs also trailed 35-0, against 2-6 Denver. More likely, the Skins played badly on a night when the other guys played their absolute best. It happens.

Will McNabb will be in DC for years to come? Arizona remains a team desperately in need of a QB … its where McNabb lives in the offseason. After Monday night’s ugly liquidation, it wouldn’t shock me if he had a dream where he clicked his heels 3 times and said, “there’s no place like home, there’s no place like home …”

That’s a wrap on this week’s trip down the Maroon and Yellow Brick Road that is ZEKE’S UNIQUE PERSPECTIVES, as always, brought to you by Yahoo!’s finest

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 16, 2010 7:08 PM | Report abuse

Boy was that ugly. Hope I never see anything like that again.

Thing is, MS needs time to build this team and we as fans need to learn how to be patient while he does. At times it will be ugly but this is a process, after all we were 4-12 last year and have many sub par players.

With the amount of draft picks and the way FA worked out in this uncapped year made it difficult to "purge" more players than MS did. Yes he traded a high 2nd rd for DM5, but one more draft pick was not going to make what we saw last night any prettier cuz most of us would have wanted an G/C and it was the D that really stunk the joint up last night.

Yes, the 2nd rd pick may have helped in early games, but most on here cried to get a real GM and HC and let them run the operation, now let's give them time to do what they were brought in to do. Let's not pull a Dan Snyder and demand change without giving stability a chance.

There will be many players needing new contracts after this season so (ir)regardless of how the new cba works out (assuming it gets done) there will be many good players available to continue to build with. It was nice dreaming that maybe the playoffs were possible, but last night showed us this is a three year thing.

Also keep in mind that Tequila will even make an ugly game prettier than it really is (just like with women) so keep some handy.

Posted by: kerzon417 | November 16, 2010 7:09 PM | Report abuse

Danny f***in' owes us...Two EVISCERATING DIVISION LOSSES in two years (The Giants humiliation last year , and this freakin' debacle!!)...I tried seppuku but all i got was the peanut butter sandwich in my pocket...I know the scores in the "Butterfly Effect" NFL are fluctuating wildly, but that game last night was MOTHRA ON ACID!!! WTF!!! OBTAIN A DECENT DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR (steal that Browns Ryan..I'm sure your crack Sara Lee team is searching for a good one this very atomic second ), GET A FREAKIN' OFFENSIVE LINE, FOR THE TEN MILLIONTH TIME, MAYBE A DECENT RECEIVER FOR McNABB TO UNDER/OVERTHROW, jeeziz...And don't ever, EVER AGAIN rush three fat slow defensive linemen against Vick UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES...He shoulda been blitzed like Poland was against the Nazis...sheesh...

Posted by: frak | November 16, 2010 7:09 PM | Report abuse

I'm wondering if the K. Moore that everyone raved about in camp will show up this year. Is he still healing, or does he just flat out stink? Maybe it's just that he was impressive against the Skins lousy offense in camp.

Here's a thought, how about Hall to FS? He can't cover his grandmother one on one, but he is a gambler and play maker. Let him roam the field.

Posted by: NickBarking | November 16, 2010 7:16 PM | Report abuse

"We can't afford to lose many more games if we plan to make the playoffs." -- Really? I love the optimism Chris, but that is pure delusion. Our team is not in the playoff conversation, and will not be this year (even if we won all the remaining games).

Posted by: murrayh | November 16, 2010 7:16 PM | Report abuse

This organization has been so dysfunctional since Snyder bought it that in retrospect it is truly amazing that Joe Gibbs bled two playoff runs. At the time I thought Gibbs may have tarnished his legacy a tad; looking back on it, Gibbs may have done his best coaching in a Hall of Fame career in his second stint. Looking at the results and decision making sandwiched around his tenure, his results were really extraordinary by modern Redskins standards.

As fans, we may need to accept that as an organization the Redksins goal is to win 8 games consistently, and are willing to sacrifice the future to get to 8 wins now, maybe get lucky and get the 9th win to compete for a playoff spot. I was certainly hoping last year's debacle was a wake up call to knock off the drama and mediocrity and build a foundation; all they did was slick it up. Shanahan's records without Elway was about 9 wins a season, and that may be their ultimate goal.

Well, that and contiuing to make obscene amounts of money.

Posted by: haunches | November 16, 2010 7:27 PM | Report abuse

well people, i can sum it up with an "i agree with everything written above." this team is horrible from top to bottom, still!4/3 defense sounds more than reasonable to any sane person. 41 mil and we got haney playing 20/25 snaps a game, crazy! team is way too old, got to get younger. i would rather put up with 2/3 years of, well, i was going to say sucking, but thats what we do know. you get my drift.I know this might sound crazy but with our o-line there is only one way we could possibly win. for me i'm hoping that dannyboy can spend another 100 mil on the baddest s.o.b., the one that just kicked our ass, bring "the man" MIKE VICK to DC! please! he'd be an idiot to do it, but maybe he might like some of that same paper everyone else seems to like so well! dannyboy i'm sure could help him with any bankruptcy problems he might have. skins fans always foot the bill no matter how f-ckin sorry this organization has turned. for the skins fans who subscribe to nfl sunday ticket, you want to see some "old school" smashmouth "diesel" early 80's skins action? tune into what is quickly becoming my favorite team to watch (after 41 years of skins) the Cleveland Browns, now thats an up and coming team! sure wish we looked like what they have going there. maybe someday!

Posted by: dannyandvinnymustgo | November 16, 2010 7:36 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like Cooley took another hit to the head last night.

This team is going to be hard pressed to win another game this season -- let alone worry about making the playoffs.

Posted by: Vic1 | November 16, 2010 7:39 PM | Report abuse

I'm baack

Philadelphia
2010 -- 13 draft picks
2009 -- 8 draft picks
2008 -- 10 draft picks
2007 -- 8 draft picks
2006 -- 8 draft picks
Total: 47

Redskins
2010 -- 6 draft picks
2009 -- 7 draft picks
2008 -- 10 draft picks
2007 -- 5 draft picks
2006 -- 6 draft picks
Total: 34

Conclusion: The Eagles have had almost 2 full season's worth of draft picks more than the Redskins over the last five seasons.

From 2006 to the present 201 season, the Eagles have won 14 games more than the Redskins.

There must be some connection here...could it be -- Michael Vick?

Posted by: Pepper5 | November 16, 2010 7:39 PM | Report abuse

Playoffs, give me a break. They will be lucky to improve on last year's 4-12. Maybe they can hope for 6-10. The schedule gets harder from here.

The winning teams get better halfway through the season. The Redskins are still looking for their rear end with both hands and a flashlight.

Posted by: unclelonghair | November 16, 2010 7:41 PM | Report abuse

Sadly, with Snyder's empire falling and going deeper into debt, it may very well may be that the Skins are reduced to throwing games at the gambling table to save Snidely's a**...That's all that Wall Street does nowadays, throw away the people's money for the benefit of the Rich...

Posted by: frak | November 16, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

There will be no playoffs this year. As of right now this team is not talented enough to win enough games to make the playoffs.

Wait until next year....

As a fan of these Dan Snyder Redskins, haven't we been saying that for most of his ownership?

but, wait until next year....

and next year, is always, THE year,

but alas, next year is just another year of foolishness, ineptitude, heart breaking losses, humiliating losses, stupid coaching, stupid play calling, stupid front office decisions, national embarrasment....

it's pretty sickening. When will it ever end?

Posted by: 72Redskins | November 16, 2010 8:00 PM | Report abuse

Dunno about all that frak but you can count on super-rich like Snyder to have their heads deeply inserted into their posterior.

Posted by: Pepper5 | November 16, 2010 8:03 PM | Report abuse

mrredskin21:

How do you feel about having the worst D in football?

Posted by: 54465446 | November 16, 2010 8:08 PM | Report abuse

Playoffs????!!!

This bunch of quitters, coaches included, may not win another game!

Posted by: Redskinrex | November 16, 2010 8:08 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins are horrible. Sadly, there won't be anymore wins this year. Another blow out on tap against Titans.

The 'skins are too old, slow and untalented at almost every position to compete.

The only way the 'skins will be able to stay close to other teams NEXT year is if there is lock out and all teams go 0-0.

Shanny's 'skins may be the worse of Snyder's tenure as owner.

Posted by: alocowboy | November 16, 2010 8:23 PM | Report abuse

Conclusion: The Eagles have had almost 2 full season's worth of draft picks more than the Redskins over the last five seasons.

Posted by: Pepper5 | November 16, 2010 7:39 PM

Which one of those draft picks did they use to get Michael Vick?

Posted by: beep-beep | November 16, 2010 8:26 PM | Report abuse

It's funny how eagle fans are yapping about winning the superbowl based on last night's game. McVick is great but he won't be smiling after every game remaining in the season, like eagle's fans say. Hopefully they don't even make it to the playoffs. Maybe eagles fans will change Vick's name to McVick-Choker.

Posted by: stevelnyc | November 16, 2010 8:29 PM | Report abuse

Last night was ugly. But I'd rather be exposed for what we are, old, slow and woefully short on play-makers, then pretend we're "one or two pieces" away from the playoffs. Again. No one rational thought we were going to be world beaters this season. This beating makes it obvious.

Posted by: mack1 | November 16, 2010 8:30 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan's records without Elway was about 9 wins a season, and that may be their ultimate goal.

Well, that and continuing to make obscene amounts of money.

Posted by: haunches

That doesn't sound like such a bad goal for a 4-12 team. 9-7 would look pretty good next year. And maybe 10-6 the year after that. (This year's a wash, of course.)

Posted by: NickBarking | November 16, 2010 8:31 PM | Report abuse

Redskins must get a secondary. Only Hall can cover anybody....sometimes. And, nobody can tackle. Put 20 lbs on Landry and move him to linebacker. While they're at it they should find out how they can draft the best D. Lineman in the draft and sign some good free agents in the secondary and draft at least one good one no shorter than 6'0".

Posted by: aliben1 | November 16, 2010 8:37 PM | Report abuse

So, just playing devil's advocate here, what does the RI comments section look like next Monday if we beat Tennessee?

Posted by: freakzilla | November 16, 2010 8:39 PM | Report abuse

Which one of those draft picks did they use to get Michael Vick?

Posted by: beep-beep | November 16, 2010 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Come on, beep Vick wasn't a factor until a few games ago...he's a superb athlete at the top of his game right now but he doesn't explain the last five years of outperformance.

The Eagles simply have a smarter front office than the Redskins and the chief virtue of the Eagle's approach is valuing draft picks and cutting ties with veterans who's best years are gone in exchange for draft picks.

Now it's not too late for Shaahan and Allen and Snyder to get religion and change their ways. The game we witnessed last night was bleak indeed, the dark night of Shanny's soul.

It's never too late to come to Jesus, Shanny!

Posted by: Pepper5 | November 16, 2010 8:45 PM | Report abuse

So, just playing devil's advocate here, what does the RI comments section look like next Monday if we beat Tennessee?

Posted by: freakzilla | November 16, 2010 8:39 PM

Devil's advocate asks "what if we lose." You're being the angel's advocate.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 16, 2010 8:46 PM | Report abuse

jerk

Posted by: Chia_Pet | November 16, 2010 8:52 PM | Report abuse

Fine. And the answer?

Posted by: freakzilla | November 16, 2010 8:53 PM | Report abuse

2007, 5-7 won 4 straight made playoffs

Posted by: pabrian2003 | November 16, 2010 8:54 PM | Report abuse

They've already last year's victory total and can probably reach 7 wins but anything more is unrealistic given their talent level and schedule. They have to draft smart for the O and D lines and good runners and receivers while come out of that line work. We need to stop dreaming and be satisfied that some progress appears to be made.

And look, another good thing this year... no interference by Danny. Who would've thought that possible?

Posted by: smrboxwell | November 16, 2010 9:00 PM | Report abuse

2007, 5-7 won 4 straight made playoffs

Posted by: pabrian2003 | November 16, 2010 8:54 PM | Report abuse

That was Gibbs. Go back and check the record, Gibbs did that all the time. This is Shanny, who's known more for fading down the stretch.

Posted by: Pepper5 | November 16, 2010 9:01 PM | Report abuse

That's right hater fans, go suck yo moms' left nipple.

Oh .. and the jason campbell debate will rage on for a very long time .. smoke it!

Posted by: pabrian2008 | November 16, 2010 9:14 PM | Report abuse

Moving on to Tennessee sounds like a plan to me.

At least we don't have a bye week to waste on not getting prepared before playing the next game.

My parting shot will simply be to say this:

These last 2 weeks for the Redskins have been as big a colossal dysfunctional embarassment for the franchise as any 2 weeks I can recall under any coach in the Snyder era.

THere...now that I have that out of my system, it's ON TO TENNESSEE...


...hopefully we can hold Chris Johnson under 300 yards rushing...

Posted by: p1funk | November 16, 2010 9:19 PM | Report abuse

...hopefully we can hold Chris Johnson under 300 yards rushing...

Posted by: p1funk | November 16, 2010 9:19 PM


Only if Mike Zornahan gets over his egotistical ego and plays more 4 linemen fronts including Haynesworthhispaycheck and 'Dre Carter thank you very much.

You're welcome hater !?!

ps. I'm snickering right now, because I know resisting an argument for you is like Chris Farley resisting a line of coke off the back of Winona Ryders ass, and to make matters worse, it's me pabrian .. PABRIAN .. who had to correct you...

Posted by: pabrian2008 | November 16, 2010 9:29 PM | Report abuse

I'll bet anyone 2K that the redskins will make it to the superbowl and score the most points in NFL history! Seriously! Do you take play money?

Posted by: stevelnyc | November 16, 2010 9:30 PM | Report abuse

hater

Posted by: Chia_Pet | November 16, 2010

There...fixed it for you...

Posted by: pabrian2008 | November 16, 2010 9:39 PM | Report abuse

This team will have a worse record than last years redskins, Twitter it...

Posted by: pabrian2008 | November 16, 2010 9:41 PM | Report abuse

Playoffs??? Is this your idea of a cruel joke ? Not with Snyder. He's a football team assassin. He's done nothing but destroy the Redskins ever since he bought the team. He knows nothing about football and a lot about scre***g fans and take their money

Posted by: lcribas58 | November 16, 2010 9:42 PM | Report abuse

...hopefully we can hold Chris Johnson under 300 yards rushing...

Posted by: p1funk

hey, let him get 300 yards -- he is on my FF team ... but the Skins definitely need the W.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 16, 2010 9:47 PM | Report abuse

Snyder. He's a football team assassin. He's done nothing but destroy the Redskins ever since he bought the team. He knows nothing about football and a lot about scre***g fans and take their money

Posted by: lcribas58 | November 16, 2010 9:42 PM

I'm following the leader...anyone care to join me ?

Who's with lcribas58 and me ? eh ?

Throw up your cosigns for lcribas58!

Posted by: pabrian2008 | November 16, 2010 9:47 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: kingpenn1 | November 16, 2010 9:48 PM | Report abuse

Here is a pseudo Beantowngreg1 update, courtesy of

PFT (ProFootballTalk(
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on November 16, 2010, 7:43 PM EST

Haynesworth’s performance against Philly showed what’s wrong with his situation in Washington. Haynesworth mentioned how the team was already down 21-0 before he even entered the game in his usual nickel package. Yet he’s the highest paid defensive player in football.

Eat it haters, but Shanazorn is a hater and that is why Haynesworth hasn't been in the game when he needs to be in...

And Snyder is nutty enough to cut Shanazorn before he cuts McSoup2.0 or Albert Haynesworthit...after all they both make more than Shanny...

Posted by: pabrian2008 | November 16, 2010 9:56 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: pabrian2008 | November 16, 2010 9:56 PM | Report abuse

IMPOSTER! AND hater!

Posted by: pabrian2003 | November 16, 2010 10:03 PM | Report abuse

IMPOSTER! AND hater!

Posted by: pabrian2003 | November 16, 2010 10:03 PM | Report abuse

Now that's no way to treat your older brother.

Say skipper... bring me down a slice of that dominos that mom ordered...

Posted by: pabrian2008 | November 16, 2010 10:13 PM | Report abuse

The Eagles simply have a smarter front office than the Redskins and the chief virtue of the Eagle's approach is valuing draft picks and cutting ties with veterans who's best years are gone in exchange for draft picks.

Now it's not too late for Shaahan and Allen and Snyder...
======================

If Snyder was going to learn, you'd think he would have already. Yet he does the same thing every single year. And he makes money selling jerseys and winning the off-season doing it.

Join the dots...

P.S. The Eagles used our 2nd round pick in 2010 to draft Nate Allen. We could have taken him and put Landry back at SS where he belongs. Or we could have drafted the next O.L. taken (8 picks later), currently starting at L.G. for the Broncos. But noooo, we have to give that pick away, and another next year, so Danny and company could get yet another old guy smarter people than themselves were trying to unload.
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | November 16, 2010 10:13 PM | Report abuse

I think that this is the team that showed up last night to play the Eagles


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GV2F64_zehI

Posted by: kingpenn1 | November 16, 2010 10:18 PM | Report abuse

These last 2 weeks for the Redskins have been as big a colossal dysfunctional embarrassment for the franchise as any 2 weeks I can recall under any coach in the Snyder era.

There...now that I have that out of my system, it's ON TO TENNESSEE.....hopefully we can hold Chris Johnson under 300 yards rushing...

Posted by: p1funk | November 16, 2010 9:19 PM

We generally agree on most occasions but I'm sure you would lay the 1st play's blame on LL when in fact it was Dhall (playing in a cover 2) that didn't get the press on Djax giving him a free release and by the time he got into LL's responsibility the play was already over. NO ONE alive (RIP #21) is making that play with him at absolute full speed and Vick throwing an absolute dart 60 YDs. Any other QB would have given him a chance but not Vick and not last night. The fact that he backed into the end zone should have resulted in a bounty on his head for the rest of the game.

Need I harken back to last year when Zorn was publicly castrated with a bingo caller that had been out of the league a few years and then we had to have the talking heads in each both give a mock diagram of our play calling tree 10x per game. That was the low point for me.

This game was an abomination only rivaled by the Patriots taking us out by the woodshed and giving us a 52-7 beating. And for the record I only saw only one guy quit and decide to take a nap on the field during this latest beating. They played hard...we just outcoached, outplayed, and embarrassed us with a SUPERIOR roster from top to bottom.

This all coming from a team we beat the snot out of in week 3 with a great game plan from Haslett and TWO weeks to prepare.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 16, 2010 10:20 PM | Report abuse

IMPOSTER! AND hater!

Posted by: pabrian2003 | November 16, 2010 10:03 PM | Report abuse

Now that's no way to treat your older brother.

Say skipper... bring me down a slice of that dominos that mom ordered...

Posted by: pabrian2008 | November 16, 2010 10:13 PM | Report abuse

Mom ordered dominos? what am i doing up here?

Posted by: pabrian2003 | November 16, 2010 10:31 PM | Report abuse

smarter people than themselves were trying to unload.
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | November 16, 2010 10:13 PM

Or smarter people on the blog such as yourself...right...hater...?

Nothing personal, but don't quit your day job thunder...we have enough plumbers/philosophers such as you and scumball1975 here on the blog...

Posted by: pabrian2008 | November 16, 2010 10:35 PM | Report abuse

I miss the bad old days when we ran a 43 D and gave up few yards and only 25 to 30 points per game. We'd have had a chance against a score like that. Ole Shanny never was a defensive genius. Square pegs and round holes.

Posted by: MrChili | November 16, 2010 10:37 PM | Report abuse

Nothing personal, but don't quit your day job thunder...we have enough plumbers/philosophers such as you and scumball1975 here on the blog...

Posted by: pabrian2008 | November 16, 2010 10:35 PM
======================

That's rich, coming from some loser who just copied another poster's id.
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | November 16, 2010 10:53 PM | Report abuse


pabrian2008

Posted by: hessone | November 16, 2010 10:54 PM | Report abuse

so peabrain2008 is really perineum/skinshaveaGM. Dude just can not help giving himself away. What a flaming bag of regurgitated owl sh!t.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 16, 2010 11:05 PM | Report abuse


pabrian2008

Posted by: hessone | November 16, 2010 10:54 PM |

Posted by: hessone | November 16, 2010 11:09 PM | Report abuse

Thunder...not as rich as Ole Snydely Owl.

That's one thing you and I have in common.. C'mon buddie, lets go root for a better team with a better QB...Oakland..

Posted by: pabrian2008 | November 16, 2010 11:10 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: pabrian2008 | November 16, 2010 11:12 PM | Report abuse


pabrian2008

Posted by: hessone | November 16, 2010 10:54 PM |

Posted by: hessone | November 16, 2010 11:09 PM |

Posted by: hessone | November 16, 2010 11:12 PM | Report abuse

Thunder...not as rich as Ole Snydely Owl.

That's one thing you and I have in common.. C'mon buddie, lets go root for a better team with a better QB...Oakland..

Posted by: pabrian2008 | November 16, 2010 11:10 PM

Yep, that seals it, it's Tainty the Clown under his 4th or 5th "sock puppet." At least in a previous post he admitted that he still lives with his mother. ITA perineum, he's baaaad juju.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 16, 2010 11:15 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: hessone | November 16, 2010 11:19 PM | Report abuse

Scumball...

How could you forget Thinker_ ?

Afterall, I stole that nickname from him...but I wouldn't expect ah reefer addict to remember that...

And if you graduated from beep-beep's school of investigation...you wouldn't be able to deny it...

Posted by: pabrian2008 | November 16, 2010 11:20 PM | Report abuse


Posted by: pabrian2008 | November 16, 2010 11:20 PM |

dive ass punk

Posted by: hessone | November 16, 2010 11:22 PM | Report abuse

B==D ~ ~

Eat it hater !

Posted by: pabrian2008 | November 16, 2010 11:31 PM | Report abuse

Im tired of hearing how good Vick is, Redskins defense SUCKS! plain and simple, they are the worst of the worst...makes me wanna puke

Posted by: pquick6165 | November 16, 2010 11:33 PM | Report abuse

Somebody already long beat me to it, but it bears repeating the Jim Mora quote, because it's never been more appropriate: "PLAYOFFS?!! PLAYoffs?!!! PlayOFFS?!!!!!!" Who's zoomin' who, here? If the Skins beat the Vikings at home, they finish 5-11. If not, they don't win another game. They won't win another division game, they'll go 0-4 against the AFC South, they won't beat Tampa Bay, so Minnesota is it. In fact, that game is the game of geezer QB's - face it, Andy Reid, criticize him for not winning the big one, knew who to unload from his QB larder. Why keep a 12-year-old monster truck when you have a fresh Ferrari in the garage? Vick showed why McNabb is unsuited to the West Coast offense - it takes quickness, smarts and an arm accuracy McNabb has never had. At first I thought that the contract extension was the worst "Vinny Cerrato move" ever, and there's been some doozies. Now that we see how it's structured, and the Skins have an out at the end of the year and later, it makes sense - it saves face for everyone after Shanahan Sr.'s bone-headed explanations after an overdue benching. The things that bother me even more, though, are why Shanahan agreed to obtain McNabb in the first place when he obviously doesn't fit their scheme; Shanahan Jr.'s play-calling, unless it's meant deliberately to embarass McNabb, has been at times as uncreative and dull-brained as Jim Zorn's; and the inability of Landry and Hall to play with any brains. They play more on bling shoes and woofin', and their raw talent to make picks now and then and to knock people hard, but the Eagles showed them that the game is to win football games, not to run your mouth and act tough and think that's the game. Unless it is... and that's an indictment of the NFL as it is today, a hype and drama show. The EAGLES showed whose tough, and smart. Lastly, I think Snyder is the one who brought McNabb in, which makes Allen have no cred: He-who-would-be-Eddie-D forgets that Eddie D had Bill Walsh and some of the best assistant coaches in NFL history, Joe Montana, Jerry Rice, Ronnie Lott and Steve Young, just for starters, as well as an OL and DL that could play. What have the Skins had since DannyBoy took over? Squat. If he had any integrity he'd sell the team to someone who had some football sense, but to him it's a video game that looks nice on his table but that he doesn't know how to use.

Posted by: rockyboy1 | November 16, 2010 11:33 PM | Report abuse

They are just not very good in the first place, and with injuries they become bad.

Titans are going to be desparate for a win Sunday, and will come out as fired up as the Eagles did.

If the 'Skins are not ready from the opening whistle, they are likely to find themselves on the ass end of another 30 point+ beat down.

Posted by: CREEBOLD | November 16, 2010 11:38 PM | Report abuse

They are just not very good in the first place, and with injuries they become bad.

Titans are going to be desparate for a win Sunday, and will come out as fired up as the Eagles did.

If the 'Skins are not ready from the opening whistle, they are likely to find themselves on the ass end of another 30 point+ beat down.

Posted by: CREEBOLD | November 16, 2010 11:38 PM | Report abuse

Daniel Snyder's ownership of this team reminds me of a high school kid who throws shiny rims and a loud exhaust pipe on his civic and thinks he has a ride straight out of the fast and the furious.

Posted by: skins91r | November 17, 2010 12:04 AM | Report abuse

So Tainty the Clown takes the record for most RI sock puppets. Can we name them all?

Perineum
SkinshaveaGM
Peabrain2008
Stinker_
BlackBallBagOps
Poolman
Sports_guru

any others?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 17, 2010 12:08 AM | Report abuse

Daniel Snyder's ownership of this team reminds me of a high school kid who throws shiny rims and a loud exhaust pipe on his civic and thinks he has a ride straight out of the fast and the furious.

Posted by: skins91r | November 17, 2010 12:04 AM |

Only problem is all we have is a loud exhaust. Not even shiny rims.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 17, 2010 12:11 AM | Report abuse

So Tainty the Clown takes the record for most RI sock puppets. Can we name them all?

Perineum
SkinshaveaGM
Peabrain2008
Stinker_
BlackBallBagOps
Poolman
Sports_guru

any others?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 17, 2010 12:08 AM

I'll venture to add 4skinzloverforever too.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 17, 2010 12:14 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: rockyboy1 | November 16, 2010 11:33 PM

rockyboy - paragraphs are your friend. It's ok to have more than one - just in case you want someone to read your tome of yours one day...

Posted by: edvar | November 17, 2010 12:16 AM | Report abuse

How on earth can Cooley or anyone else at Redskins Park even let the word "playoffs" enter their mind?!?! The only "push" they need to worry about at this point should involve the offensive and defensive lines!!! What a joke!

Posted by: Neisha_H | November 17, 2010 12:23 AM | Report abuse

That look on Shanny's face last night, damp, shriveled and rodent like, of dumb-struck dismay ~~~~~~~ that was the expression of a man who has just realized that yes he too has fallen victim to ~~~~~~~ THE CURSE OF SNYDERATTO!!!

Posted by: Pepper5 | November 17, 2010 12:23 AM | Report abuse

That look on Shanny's damp and shriveled face last night of dumb-struck dismay ~~~~~~~ well, that was the expression of a man who has just realized that yes he too has fallen victim to ~~~~~~~ THE CURSE OF SNYDERATTO!!!

Posted by: Pepper5 | November 17, 2010 12:29 AM | Report abuse

You have to love the 'Skins. They're fresh off a game where the opponent would have scored in the 70s if they hadn't started running out the clock in the 3rd quarter, and the 'Skins are thinking about the playoffs. They should ask Shanahan in one of his press conferences if they need to win to make the playoffs - we may have a new Coors Light commercial here.

Posted by: josettes | November 17, 2010 12:41 AM | Report abuse

I know that we try to eschew politics on this here blog but I have to state an opinion that I side with Obama and the Libbies on. I can't believe the Repubs are going to try to block the New Start Treaty and the earmark that they wanted to modernize the nuclear complex in this country. What's wrong with repairing relations with Russia and reducing nuclear arms? Plus it would help smooth the way for strategic missile defense in Europe.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 17, 2010 1:00 AM | Report abuse

First Detroit, now this? We don't have easy teams on the schedule. And frankly, with our offensive line we won't win in December.

I do like our RB's though. Coming along nicely, but Philly doesn't have a dominant defensive line. Just average. And McNabb had barely 3 seconds in the pocket all night. Can't win out like that.

Its been a good year though. Exciting games except the last two. After 30 years watching this team I'd be happy to have a blowout where we are nursing a lead for once.

Posted by: 20yrskinfan | November 17, 2010 1:47 AM | Report abuse

I know that we try to eschew politics on this here blog but I have to state an opinion that I side with Obama and the Libbies on. I can't believe the Repubs are going to try to block the New Start Treaty and the earmark that they wanted to modernize the nuclear complex in this country. What's wrong with repairing relations with Russia and reducing nuclear arms? Plus it would help smooth the way for strategic missile defense in Europe.

Posted by: scampbell1975

Ok, fainted twice. But actually, it would also (gasp) save money!!! A little less govt spending. Turns out, maintaining nukes isn't free. Who knew?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 17, 2010 2:31 AM | Report abuse

i give up!! The kool aid has made me sick after getting embarassed on national tv! this team EMBARASSED EVERY SINGLE REDSKIN FAN, THE WONDERFUL CITY OF DC, ITS COACHES and ITS KING OF THE ELVES OWNER!!! we got a OVER-RATED CHUMP for a QB who PUKED DURING THE SUPER BOWL ON A GAME WINNING(LOSING)DRIVE!!!! THIS TEAM IS ONLY A LIL BIT BETTER THAN THAT SCUM jason campbell and IDIOT Zorn!!! WE DONT DESRVE TO MAKE THE PLAYOFFS AFTER LOSING(getting curb stomped) TO A BUNCH OF BUMS THAT WONT WIN THE NFC EAST LET ALONE A SUPERBOWL!! OUR HOPE IS GETTING RANDY MOSS AND DRAFTING A KICK WR, DRAFTING JAKE LOCKER AS A REPLACMENT FOR MC_CHOKE, signing a good rt,rg,lg, and matt birk for oline on D BLOW up THESE CHUMPS HOPING WE RE-LAND CHAMP BAILEY, A QUALITY CB with dhall as a 3rd stringer, a GREAT FS, a good DE and NT a good OLB to complete Orakpo, a good ILB to play with Fletcher!! OUR D LOST THE GAME LAST NIGHT FOR US! NOT ONE PLAYER SHOULD OF HAD SH### TO SAY IN AN INTERVIEW BC THEY DIDNT DESERVE TO SPEAK AFTER GETTING STOMPED BY SOME SCRUBS!! BUT..... WE SHALL RISE FROM THIS EMBARASSMENT KNOWN AS THE 2010 SKINS and WIN SOME SUPER BOWLS!!! HTTR!!!

Posted by: warriorking1112 | November 17, 2010 3:36 AM | Report abuse

chap since i cant say the "s" word but i can say wtf LMAO WHAT A BUNCH OF CHUMPS WPOST IS LMAO!!!! WHY DO I HAVE TO LIVE IN PA THIS SUCKS 78 facebook messages god F* YOU 2010 redskins almost as bad as having campbell and zorn last year same thing but not as bad

Posted by: warriorking1112 | November 17, 2010 3:59 AM | Report abuse

2007, 5-7 won 4 straight made playoffs

Posted by: pabrian2003 | November 16, 2010 8:54 PM | Report abuse

That was Gibbs. Go back and check the record, Gibbs did that all the time. This is Shanny, who's known more for fading down the stretch.

Posted by: Pepper5 | November 16, 2010 9:01 PM


Wow...so he makes that ONE epic fade a couple years ago and that's what he's known for? Try again:

http://www.csnwashington.com/11/10/10/Can-Shanahans-Redskins-Win-in-Seasons-Se/landing.html?blockID=349608&feedID=6355

Shanahan's 2nd half record over the last decade is 42-30, literally ONE game worse than his 1st half record. Only two of those seasons yielding a sub-.500 2nd half finish. But hey...don't let fact get in the way of a good argument...

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 17, 2010 5:49 AM | Report abuse

Five Thoughts on McNabb contract
By: John Keim
Examiner Staff Writer
11/16/10 2:38 PM EST

1. After getting it confirmed that Donovan McNabb's contract had $40 million guaranteed, now we hear that really isn’t the case. No shocker there considering how each side wants to spin things. But ESPN’s Adam Schefter offered an interesting breakdown of the contract here. It’s worth reading and it makes the deal look a whole lot better/smarter from the Redskins perspective.

2. Basically, there’s a bonus worth $10 million that the Redskins will have to decide if they want to pay McNabb in the offseason. If they don’t pay it, he can be released and it’s only cost them $3.75 million. So here’s the deal: Until this bonus is paid, the same question will come up. Will McNabb be in Washington next season? Been doing this too long to think it’s a done deal that he’ll be back. McNabb said on his ESPN 980 radio show today that, “I will be here next year ... .I will be here for the next couple of years to continue to turn this thing around. I think I'm happy, I hope the Redskin nation is happy. I look forward to continue to try to move this thing in the right direction." This game still isn’t over. Or have people forgotten the contract that made Stephen Davis a Redskin for life?

3. That said, the Redskins clearly hedged their bets by signing him to this extension. If they don’t think they can upgrade at this position then they’ll give him the bonus. Also, I am not sure how the CBA uncertainty affects this contract. That will say a lot, too. I also would not have expected the Redskins to sign him to anything if they didn’t want this to work or if they didn't think that it would. They could have just let him leave and chalk it up to a bad trade. Now if he leaves they’d be out two picks and nearly four million. So if I had to wager, he would be back next season.

4. Trying to find a QB is the toughest thing to do in the NFL. Yes, McNabb is struggling, but this is not all his doing. His inaccurate throws are the same one’s he’s made for a dozen years. They need a talent upgrade (as most knew before the season) and some patience considering how many players are in their first year of this system. Last night, 10 of the 11 offensive starters were in their first year of this offense. The coaches know this, too. The question is, what sort of overhaul is needed and where will McNabb’s talent level be at when this time is done building this offense? It could take a couple years.

5. The Redskins should still look at finding and developing a young QB in the offseason. Is John Beck that sort of guy? Well, he’s not really young (29) and didn’t show enough this summer – yes, with less than a month in this offense – to think he’d be that player. So if you look at this McNabb deal as a three-year marriage, then get another guy in here next year by drafting someone higher in the draft.

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 17, 2010 5:58 AM | Report abuse

What We’ve Learned 11/17/10
By: John Keim
Examiner Staff Writer
11/16/10 11:36 PM EST

1. The Redskins are not a playoff team. That was true before the season, when they were 4-3 and it’s especially true now that they’re 4-5. But this should not be a shock to anyone. The Redskins might be an older team, but they are not a win-now team — they’re more stopgap. Win now teams have numerous key players in, or entering, their prime. That does not describe many players on this roster. They just had too much repairing to do and will face a similar situation this offseason, too. How many players on offense can you see being key players two years from now? Work remains.

2. The Eagles have Jason Avant as their No. 3 receiver (5 catches, 76 yards, one touchdown vs. Washington on Monday). The Redskins have Joey Galloway (nine catches, 141 yards, no touchdowns in nine games). Is there a reason to continue this failed experiment? Galloway has been targeted 32 times this season. He’s caught nine passes. And three of McNabb’s 11 interceptions have come on passes to Galloway. That’s a high sum considering how few passes have gone his way. There seems to be an urgency lacking in his route-running, which enables corners to jump routes, as the Eagles did Monday night. Still hard to see what he adds at this stage of his career.

3. Washington lacks the interior to effectively run the stretch play. Considering how important that play is to the offense, this is what you call a problem. It’s been true all season that runs get blown up or at least altered because the defensive tackles are getting too much penetration. Other times they slide down the line and they tackle the runner for, say, a four-yard gain. If that person is blocked, a 10-yard run would have been available.

4. Michael Vick is the scariest quarterback Washington has faced this season, which says a lot considering those on the list: Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Matt Schaub, Tony Romo and even Jay Cutler. But there were a few plays Monday where another quarterback would have had to throw the ball out of the end zone. Vick bought himself time and made plays out of nothing. Yes, the Redskins could have signed him last offseason, but he landed in such a better spot. The Eagles have a strong organization and arguably the best combination of coach/quarterbacks coach in the NFL in Andy Reid and Marty Mornhinweg.

Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/sports/blogs/redskins-confidential/What-Weve-Learned-111710-108581949.html#ixzz15XK1VwyH

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 17, 2010 6:02 AM | Report abuse

It would be a miracle if our team actually showed heart?

I'd say that even a display of 'heart' would not have rendered a game win aginast the iggles.

Andy Reid has just simply made better choices in terms of scheme and personnel.

He took a chance on Mike Vick.

And Kevin Kolb ain't too shabby either.

He has revamped his entire receiving group.

He decided to trade Donovan McNabb within the division to a team lacking speed, playmakers, and consistent and clever use of draft picks.

And in fact, in terms of draft picks, he got two picks from the redskins as a result of the McNabb trade.

And the redskins need those picks more than McNabb as he routinely throws his own picks.

Reid now commands one of the best teams in the league, all due to smart choices and long term planning.

What the redskins need moving forward isn't more 'heart'.

We need some brains.

And sum luck.

And sum clever folks in the front offices who make better choices than trading for/signing quarterbacks/defensive linemen/wide receivers/running backs who used to be good.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | November 17, 2010 6:16 AM | Report abuse


And sum clever folks in the front offices who make better choices than trading for/signing quarterbacks/defensive linemen/wide receivers/running backs who used to be good.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | November 17, 2010 6:16 AM |

freakin cosign

prepare for another decade of snyders version of "redskin football".

that will be splashy trades and FA's signings, minus valuable draft picks


Posted by: hessone | November 17, 2010 6:28 AM | Report abuse

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Posted by: beep-beep | November 17, 2010 6:32 AM | Report abuse

Washington in the playoffs? You've got to be kidding me.

Posted by: tinyjab40 | November 17, 2010 7:22 AM | Report abuse

2007, 5-7 won 4 straight made playoffs

Posted by: pabrian2003 | November 16, 2010 8:54 PM | Report abuse

That was Gibbs. Go back and check the record, Gibbs did that all the time. This is Shanny, who's known more for fading down the stretch.

Posted by: Pepper5 | November 16, 2010 9:01 PM


Wow...so he makes that ONE epic fade a couple years ago and that's what he's known for? Try again:

http://www.csnwashington.com/11/10/10/Can-Shanahans-Redskins-Win-in-Seasons-Se/landing.html?blockID=349608&feedID=6355

Shanahan's 2nd half record over the last decade is 42-30, literally ONE game worse than his 1st half record. Only two of those seasons yielding a sub-.500 2nd half finish. But hey...don't let fact get in the way of a good argument...

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 17, 2010 5:49 AM | Report abuse

Way to punch back hard as you can....and whiff.

The second half of the season is not "stretch." Lets look at the last six games:

2008 Mike Shanahan
Last 6 games L,W,W,L,L,L

2007 Mike Shanahan --
Last 6 games L,L,W, L,L, W

2006 Mike Shanahan
Last 6 games L,L,L.W,W,L

This is what got Mike Shanahan fired in Denver. Three consecutive seasons of fading down the stretch. That's why he is known today more for fading more than finishing strong, as I wrote, than Gibbs.

One "epic fade" can mark a coach for his career. Three in a row was enough to get a legend like Shanahan fired.

Posted by: Pepper5 | November 17, 2010 8:24 AM | Report abuse

Anyone who envisioned a 4-12 team going to the playoffs the following year is someone who probably waits up all night Xmas Eve for Santa to fall out of their chimney. It's happened before but not this team. I predicted 6-10 before the season and I see that as an improvement of two games. Next year, 8-8 and the following, if things go well, 10-6. Competitive teams are not built overnight and this one is barely on the rebuilding road, they're old and tired. But how'd you like to be a Buffalo fan?

Posted by: curtb | November 17, 2010 9:36 AM | Report abuse


The Redskins CAN go to the Playoffs IF they get their MONEY together and BUY some TICKETS from whoever is going to appear in the games.

Apparently, the Iggles will be there, maybe Albert can get some tickets IF HE ASKS VERY NICELY AND ACTS SUBDUED AND INDOLENT, you know, LIKE HE DOES IN THE GAMES.

Posted by: notinca | November 17, 2010 9:52 AM | Report abuse

We've all seen blowouts before. Blowouts usually involve a team getting hot, or a series of improbable coincidences, or both. Monday night was not a blowout. That was a bunch of guys half-assing it around the field, not a team so much as a bunch of strangers who happened to have similar outfits on. I assume we've all seen the clip of Haynesworth falling down and deciding to just not get up again. It was embarrassing, not just to the Artists formerly known at the Redskins, but to the game of football. People paid money to attend that. Sponsors paid to advertise during it. All of those people were robbed. It would have been less disgusting if the Redskins had just forefeited before the game.

If this "team" somehow makes the playoffs, that's an indictment of the entire system, not an indication they somehow turned it around. But we don't need to hold our breath about it. At this point even winning another game is going to be an uphill battle. After that shameful performance, the Redskins would be underdogs even against the league's other bottom feeders like the Lions, Browns, Bills, and Cowboys.

I've honestly never seen a team quit like that.

Posted by: zippyspeed | November 17, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

No need to panic guys, it will just take a little more time. When McNabb's new contract is over (in 5 years) we should be able to resign Jason Campbell to a nice fat contract just in time ... so he can retire here and enter the HOF as a Redskin.

Until then, let's just enjoy listening to the many different ways Shanahan justifies all the genius decisions he keeps making every week.

"Galloway and Roydell looked really great during practice. They give us a better change to win than Devon Thomas, Austin or Banks"

"Yes, I think the 3/4 defense gives us a better chance to win now."

"Lictensteiger and Rabach played a very solid game last night."

"Landry is the best player I've ever coached."

"Portis is probably 50/50 to start this week."

"Rex gave us a better chance to win in the 2 minute drill."

"If Haynesworth keeps producing, he'll see more playing time."

"I made the decision to bench McNabb, not my son."

"Larry Johnson and Willie Parker looked great in practice and give us a chance to win now."

"Those passes McNabb threw in the dirt and over everyone's head were not his fault, there's just an adjustment period he's going through in our new offense."

"I make all of the personel decisions on this team, not Dan Snyder."

"We'll put the best players on the field each week."

"I don't think we need to bring in any big name receivers ... I feel good about the guys we have."

"Our offensive line has some talent, they just need more time to bond."

"We told McNabb about the possibility of benching him because of his lack of cardio conditioning."

"Rex has much more practice time running the 2 minute drill."

"I feel confident in the replay challenge system we have in place."

"We got the best deal we could get for Jason Campbell."

"I think these draft choices we made can have an immediate impact in helping our club."

"Jammal Brown was well worth the draft pick trade and should be fine to start this year."

Posted by: FootballCardSnatcher | November 17, 2010 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Most teams come out of the bye week smoking. The Redskins came out with absolutely no momentum at all.

In fact since beating the Bears on all those interceptions by Hall, the Redskins have looked pretty poor.

In the Detroit game, Washington was pushed around on both sides of the line of scrimmage and ended up losing to a team that this week lost to the then 0-7 Bills and Ryan Fitzpatrick.

The only difference in the Eagles game was that Washington was playing a team with a lot more talent than Detroit.

But the Washington effort, especially on offense, was equally as pitiful.

The offensive line played fairly well the first 3-4 weeks of the season despite being a patchwork.

Williams was healthy, Brown wasn't 100% but was toughing it out at RT.

Now Williams is hurting from accumulated injuries and Brown is a part-timer. Dockery has been replaced by the undersized Lichtensteiger, a natural center, and he has been blown up 3 weeks in a row by the bigger DTs on the schedule.

At 6'3 and 295 Kory belongs inside at center. You can't play 6'2 and 289 next to 6'3 and 295 in today's NFL on the line and expect to be able to anchor.

Mike Shanahan is living in the 1990's if he thinks he can go this undersized on the OL and execute.

The other offensive line backups are Montgomery and Heyer, two guys who haven't proven they deserve to play over the past couple of years when given opportunities.

Tennessee?

The Titans will be playing at home and are in a legitimate race for a playoff spot.

I would be VERY surprised to see the Redskins come out of this game with a win.

Posted by: RoyHobbs4 | November 17, 2010 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Redskins biggetst problem--no speed on offense. That's why I can't understand why they let Fast Willie Parker go. He would of given them some speed coming out of the backfield, something that is sorely missed with this offense. Opening the season with pretty much two rookie running backs, what were they thinging?

Posted by: laboyde | November 17, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse

In just over a decade, FORBES Magazine estimates, Snyder has nearly doubled the value of the Redskins, turning them into the league's second-most-valuable team, behind only the Dallas Cowboys.

Bottom line Snyder makes money no matter what happens on the field. So what real incentive is their really to put a winning team on the field other than say personal pride?... Only when Snyder starts to loose money on the team will he finally get it right.

Posted by: concealed | November 17, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse

This team will have a worse record than last years redskins, Twitter it...

Posted by: pabrian2008 | November 16, 2010 9:41 PM

Really?

Posted by: hock1 | November 17, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Skins biggest problem:
1. The media
2. The fans that believe the media crap
3. 2nd and 3rd tier players.

They can only deal with the players, they have not control of the media and the idiotic fans who listen to them. I think they current gm and coaches will handle it ok but it will take time. For better or worse, Snyder has always put his money behind this team, his problem had been his choices of advisers.

Posted by: hock1 | November 17, 2010 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Redskins biggest problems:
1. Danny Snyder
2. Danny Snyder
3. Bad karma from that racist name

None of these are going to change any time soon, so good luck on that playoff thing.

Posted by: jos587 | November 17, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

For some reason or other, Snyder and the organization can not catch on to the fact that winners are built in the draft. All the money wasted on Fat Albert, McNabb and other well known flops could have been spent in other directions in the draft; the free agency(not so well known players.i.e. Torain et.al)I am sure fans all are aware of the fact that the Redskins are no closer to being a winner than they have been for the last 5 years. Until the front office people realize this and become fatigued with driving a once proud franchise in the eternal football netherworld winning is only a dream..Eventually Snyder and Allen as well as Shannahan will catch on as they watch Fed Ex field become emptier and emptier as each Sunday comes along.

Posted by: rcstapleton | November 17, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Playoffs? ARE YOU KIDDING? We suck..!!

We won't win another game. 4-12. Finish this nightmare of a season and get ready for this most important draft in team history. We're going to suck next year too.

Posted by: dallas287 | November 17, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse

No disrespect to anyone, but any talk of the 2010 Redskins making the playoffs was unrealistic.

While improvements were made this offseason, many people have observed, we still had issues to be addressed. I stated 7-9 before pre-season. I'm revising that prediction to 6-10, based on the level of play of my beloved 'Skins the last two games.

Before this team can realistically entertain a post spot, Shanny needs to enforce a mindset and work ethic that has sorely been lacking from this team for a long while. The posturing, posing, distractions, immature actions MUST CEASE...NOW. To be a leader, you must EMULATE a leader in everything you do. The majority of the players on this team are anything but that.

HTTR!

Posted by: Southernbelle_aurora | November 17, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

No. Hell No -- the Redskins won't make the playoffs.

As John Riggins continues to point out -- and as others in the past have also pointed out, the core problem -- and this problem is an enduring one - with the Redskins is the owner. For the Redskins to resume their rightful place in the league and once again in the hearts of their fans, Snyder must go.

Fire Dan Snyder.

When someone is fired, (s)he is no longer paid.

So, to fire Dan Snyder, don't buy tickets to games, don't buy tickets to anything else at Snyder's stadium, don't listen to Snyder's sports network, don't buy tickets to 6 Flags. And don't listen to or watch the games. Follow the Redskins only in the newspaper and on WTOP.

If enough fans commit to and are enduring in their firing of Snyder, he will be forced to sell the team. A new owner can offer hope to replace despair. A new owner who buys out a fired Dan Snyder will also know that (s)he, too, can be fired, so the new owner will very likely give the team the long-term professional management it needs.

Help speed the day when we can shout:

Snyder is gone.

Hail to the new owner -- our Redskins are on the way back to their rightful place in our hearts.

Fire Dan Snyder.

Posted by: jimb | November 17, 2010 5:36 PM | Report abuse

PLAYOFFS???!!! PLAYOFFS?!?!!!

Posted by: LAskinfan | November 17, 2010 5:53 PM | Report abuse

2007, 5-7 won 4 straight made playoffs

Posted by: pabrian2003 | November 16, 2010 8:54 PM | Report abuse

And we promptly got our a$$e$ handed to us in the Wild Card by the Seahawks...

Your point is taken, but SO not valid.

Posted by: Southernbelle_aurora | November 17, 2010 9:02 PM | Report abuse

the problem with the redskins is all ways the same week after week, the problem is they show up at the game in a getready, getset, go mode and the other team knows that to beat the new defense all they have to do is be in the go mode. the redskins need to show up in the go mode and stop playing like they are trying to start the car, let it warm up, and then peel out. thats the problem. the other team is going to continue to put the redskins in a rush mode and all the redskins have to do to fix the problem is stop playing conservative and go for broke.

Posted by: kreed21 | November 17, 2010 9:05 PM | Report abuse

the problem with the redskins is all ways the same week after week, the problem is they show up at the game in a getready, getset, go mode and the other team knows that to beat the new defense all they have to do is be in the go mode. the redskins need to show up in the go mode and stop playing like they are trying to start the car, let it warm up, and then peel out. thats the problem. the other team is going to continue to put the redskins in a rush mode and all the redskins have to do to fix the problem is stop playing conservative and go for broke.

Posted by: kreed21 | November 17, 2010 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Will the Redskins make the playoffs?

HAHAHAHAHAHA. Wait let me catch my breath. HAHAHAHAHAHWhooo. Whew! That was a good one.

Tell me another joke.

D

Posted by: dstafford2 | November 17, 2010 10:05 PM | Report abuse

BTW, thank you, Edvar, re using paragraphs - very true...

Struck me that Redskins ownership is similar to the Seattle Mariners ownership (in the other Washington, where I now live) in its fecklessness and unprofessionalism, with predictable results. Basically blind egoists with their heads in the sand - "I'm going to do it my way!" Well, "your way" has had damned poor results, and each team may want to consider that the proof is in the pudding...

Posted by: rockyboy1 | November 18, 2010 3:47 AM | Report abuse

I doubt the Skins will ever be successful until this team is built the right way. From the ground up, through the draft and with qualified free-agents. Stop paying out huge contracts to guys at the end of their career and search for a coach who can motivate the players and use them to the best of their abilities. There have been nothing but excuses since Snyder bought this team. That seems to be the only consistant part of this franchise.

Posted by: tiredrdsknfan | November 18, 2010 9:27 AM | Report abuse

You gotta be kidding me.

Posted by: Gladiator2008 | November 18, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

IMO, 7-9 is a pipe dream based on the remaining schedule. The easiest game left on the schedule may be the Vikings. I think 5-11 is more realistic.

Posted by: jksesq1 | November 19, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Playoffs? Are we sure they can even make it to the bathroom to clean the poo out of their pants?

Posted by: jacksonalex | November 19, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

I think most of us are hoping they simply get through the remaining seven games without embarrassing themselves and the metro area again like last Monday.

Better question: Will Shanahan coach Washington or Dallas in 2011?

Posted by: BigTrees | November 20, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

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