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A "close call" on whether Clinton Portis will be ready Sunday

By Barry Svrluga

Redskins running back Clinton Portis, addressing whether his torn groin will be healed enough to play Sunday at Tennessee, said Thursday that "it's going to be another close call."

He added that his past two years of battling injuries has him preparing for the end of his career.

"It's rough, it's tough," said Portis, who missed eight games in 2009 with a concussion and already has missed five this season. "But at the same time, you get the appreciation of football. You get the appreciation of being around your teammates, and you get the idea that this don't last forever, so enjoy it and make the best and make some good business decisions and be prepared. If they ever call and it's time to step away, be prepared to step away."

Portis said his hope of playing against Philadelphia last week caused him to push a bit too much.

"Last week, I came back, we came back from the bye, and [I] was like, eager to push and show, like, 'Yeah I'm ready,'" Portis said. "We just have to see. It flared up. It swolled up. It took a couple days to calm down. This week, so far so good."

Portis said he hasn't fully tested the groin, which he tore Oct. 3 at Philadelphia, but that he could at practice later Thursday. He said he believes coaches and medical personnel need to see him at full speed before evaluating whether he can play against the Titans.

"I'm not worrying about the rust," Portis said. "I'm participating. I can't do everything that I want to do. But ... you're talking about 10 days so far of...practicing and going through drills without really just exploding and participating. That's what they want to see. They want to see all of that, so therefore when I step back on the field, I feel like it's going to be good enough that they see the rust gone."

By Barry Svrluga  | November 18, 2010; 12:23 PM ET
Categories:  Clinton Portis, Running backs  
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why can't these coaches adapt to the players we have on our roster and work with what we have.

Posted by: hessone | November 18, 2010 12:12 PM

First off, the players aren't very good. Remember DT11? Everyone said "there has to be a way to use him. coaches should be flexible." Now he's with a new team, new scheme. But he can't play. There was no way to "adapt" to DT11 and there's no way to adapt to some of the other slugs out there.

Second, the reason you hire Mike Shanahan and Jim Haslett is because you want to change what you're doing. You want a new offense, a new defense. You don't get that by "adapting to the players we have now" because those players were chosen for an offense and a defense that you don't want to run anymore.

You run the offense and the defense that you want to run and see which players can adapt. The ones that fit in, you keep. The other ones you cut/trade -- you don't keep running the old stuff for them because the players that you've added to the team were selected to fit into the new scheme.

There really is only one way to change what you're doing. Change.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 18, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Wow beep. couldn't have said it better myself. perfect post (or damn near it!).

Posted by: JoelV | November 18, 2010 12:35 PM | Report abuse

dive ass

Posted by: PlayAction | November 18, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

I'd rather dive p*ssy

Posted by: monk811 | November 18, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

beep,

Good job however hessone is now on the peabrain list.

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 18, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse


It's not like anyone would notice if we just lined up with 10 on the O-side of the ball anyways -- at least not with the way they been playing lately, that is.

But if we really need to field 11, let put CP26 out there anyways and let the gonads be damned already -- sort of like they did with little BB16 and his surgically repaired knee. I mean, do we really want to see any of other scrubs starting in his place?

But in deference to CR26 and his injury, the coaching staff could allow him to "pull a Haynesworth" whenever it suits -- as in back up, sit down, stretch out, pour yourself a nice tall cold one, and enjoy the remainder of the play in the relative comfort of a nice easy chair that will be strategically placed somewhere 'tween the hash marks.


Posted by: Vic1 | November 18, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse


You run the offense and the defense that you want to run and see which players can adapt.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 18, 2010 12:26 PM |

we've accomplish that before the bye week. they can't adapt, so any good coach would adapt to the players he has on his roster to get the best performance possible. after all, the object is to win and alot of folks think we're still in the hunt for a playoff spot

FINANCE SNYDER-FINANCE SNYDER-FINANCE SNYDER!!!!

Posted by: hessone | November 18, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

dive ass

Posted by: PlayAction | November 18, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

I'd rather dive p*ssy

Posted by: monk811 | November 18, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse


Sounds like you two are auditioning for work as a airport security screener with the TSA.

Posted by: Vic1 | November 18, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Portis said he hasn't fully tested the groin...

They're going to test it out Friday night when haynesworth takes him out on his stripper extravaganza night.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 18, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse


Can we agree that this looks bad now but is FAR from over?

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 18, 2010 12:32 PM |

yes brown, but being dead last in defense to me is a complete failure. I know, points on the board, right

Posted by: hessone | November 18, 2010 12:44 PM | Report abuse


Good job however hessone is now on the peabrain list.

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 18, 2010 12:37 PM |

how many times are you going to post this before you ita ? I can hardly wait

Posted by: hessone | November 18, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

There really is only one way to change what you're doing. Change.


Posted by: beep-beep | November 18, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

I know what you're saying, and in a perfect world it could work, but here's the problem: If you think all of the successful teams always stick to their scheme and never change or adapt you're crazy!

It's good to have a scheme, but there is something wrong with a coach if he never changes things to suit a player or group of players, and he won't win many games if he doesn't bend sometimes.

Perfect example: Joe Gibbs. Joe came in and installed his offense, but it didn't suit his players and they quickly went 0-5. What happened? Joe was a great coach and ADAPTED TO THE PLAYERS HE HAD, so he changed the offense to fit Riggins and Theismann.

The Shannahans should be adapting the offense around McNabb, put in quicker routes and passes for the bad pass protecting OLine, and Haslett should scheme something more for THIS defense's strengths. Maybe that's why we aren't getting any better!

We still need better players, we obviously don't have SB talent right now, but we have quite a few good players and their strengths should be taken advantage of!

Posted by: monk811 | November 18, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Hessone

You just became second behind peabrain with these comments, so like peabrain you are now on the pay no attention list.

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 18, 2010 12:23 PM


Co-sign...I can't tell if he's failing miserably at trying to be funny or if he's just plain retarded...

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 18, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

You run the offense and the defense that you want to run and see which players can adapt. The ones that fit in, you keep. The other ones you cut/trade -- you don't keep running the old stuff for them because the players that you've added to the team were selected to fit into the new scheme.

There really is only one way to change what you're doing. Change.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 18, 2010 12:28 PM

And that's will be the real deal for this year...finding out who they can move forward with. Keeping, and signing FA, and drafting players year after year that fit what Shanny wants to do on offense and defense is what will turn this franchise around.

Posted by: TWISI | November 18, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Unbelievable. He's the one who's accountable for the team's success. He's been in professional football for 26 years. But you think he hasn't looked at all the option on his roster or available in free agency? You don't think he's looked at other teams' practice squads for a possible upgrade?

Why? Why do you think this? Because he hasn't told Jason Reid "We're really weak at LG, but we're looking at all available options to upgrade."?

Posted by: beep-beep | November 18, 2010 10:16 AM
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Yes, Shanahan is ultimately accountable, but if he is coming out in the media and saying Lichtensteiger is doing well, then I think that suggests that he isn't looking for a replacement. It suggests that the coach is happy with Lichie's play, even though the rest of us see a guy who isn't getting it done.

I don't expect Shanahan to tell anything truthful to anyone in the media. From why he truly benched McNabb to each week's injury list, the guy thrives on misleading the media. And I don't expect the WaPo's staff to put together two and two and have it equal four. But there are some pretty decent journalists out there who do their homework and they know the comings and goings at Redskins park. We would know if offensive linemen were being interviewed and they haven't been. This, too, suggests - as inexplicably as it may be - that Shanny is as happy as a pig in dookie with the offensive line.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 18, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Right now scheme trumps wins. Bottom line.

We're not actually TRYING to win games here, believe it or not. We're trying to establish a system.

That's why sukkards like Lichtensteiger & Galloway are playing - because they're doing the steps correctly. Whether or not they can actually play is besides the point.

I don't know why this is so hard for everyone to see.

It was fully evident in the Philly game, I thought. It's something I actually AGREED with Arrington on, that we were following the gameplan and leaving Vick WAY too much space to work in.

But as our coarches begin to hammer home their message, the team will coalesce and we'll really have something.

You can't adapt what you don't already have in place. That's called Chaos - and it doesn't work beyond inspiration. We want to win by route.

I believe this is the true meaning of "it's not whether you win or loose, it's how you play the game...". Everyone always tries to make that about morals or ethics - it's really about systems & synchronicity.


6-10! Woo hoo! Let's Beat Dallas!

Posted by: DikShuttle | November 18, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

dive ass

Posted by: PlayAction | November 18, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

I'd rather dive p*ssy

Posted by: monk811 | November 18, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like you two are auditioning for work as a airport security screener with the TSA.

Posted by: Vic1 | November 18, 2010 12:43 PM

Monk...I'll take the lady line...you can have the dude line...cool?

Posted by: PlayAction | November 18, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Co-sign...I can't tell if he's failing miserably at trying to be funny or if he's just plain retarded...

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 18, 2010 12:52 PM |

what post are you talking about brown ? at least let a guy respond. flounder keeps saying he's going to ignore pabrian and myself but keeps posting about us. I'm talking football. you see it your way, that's fine. in no way am I trashing you or anyone else on this board, with the exception of n_p_i and p_f. sorry I don't feel the same as you about the direction of the FO or the coaching staff. I'm more of a man than to threaten on an internet board I'm going to ignore someone because I disagree with them.

Posted by: hessone | November 18, 2010 1:02 PM | Report abuse

dive ass

Posted by: PlayAction | November 18, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

I'd rather dive p*ssy

Posted by: monk811 | November 18, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like you two are auditioning for work as a airport security screener with the TSA.

Posted by: Vic1 | November 18, 2010 12:43 PM

Monk...I'll take the lady line...you can have the dude line...cool?

Posted by: PlayAction | November 18, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Um, I would only take the dude line if I were gay, so we'll be splitting the lady line!!! And no, I'm not cool with taking all the fat chicks and you having the models!

I guess that means you're taking the dude line Hess!!!

Posted by: monk811 | November 18, 2010 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Yes, Shanahan is ultimately accountable, but if he is coming out in the media and saying Lichtensteiger is doing well, then I think that suggests that he isn't looking for a replacement. It suggests that the coach is happy with Lichie's play, even though the rest of us see a guy who isn't getting it done.

Posted by: RedSkinHead |

RSH,

I know you don't really believe Shanny when he talks like that do you, whats he supposed to say the guy sucks but we have nothing else?

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 18, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Thursday Haiku Challenge --

Only rule is to incorporate "it swolled up" into your haiku.

10,000 bonus points to the winner.

Posted by: PlayAction | November 18, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

monk,

Good post and I agree Gibbs is a great coach.

Gibbs walked into a talented team with no salary cap, and did a masterful job at using all the angles to stock pile players.

Shanny walked into sh-t and he has a salary cap to worry about.

There's no reason to ajust to these players, when the majority of them will be gone over the next two years.

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 18, 2010 1:10 PM | Report abuse

I guess that means you're taking the dude line Hess!!!

Posted by: monk811 | November 18, 2010 1:04 PM

Think they'll get offended when he asks them to take a load in their mouth and gargle?

Posted by: PlayAction | November 18, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse


6-10! Woo hoo! Let's Beat Dallas!

Posted by: DikShuttle | November 18, 2010 12:58 PM |

I want to see jerry in his owners box with tears in his eye's

Posted by: hessone | November 18, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

I'm more of a man than to threaten on an internet board I'm going to ignore someone because I disagree with them.

Posted by: hessone | November 18, 2010 1:02 PM

Hess it's not about disagreeing with you, it's that some of your post sound retarded (pabrain) and you continue to post them over and over. We get your point. Move on already.

Posted by: kerzon417 | November 18, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

brownwood

Can we agree that this looks bad now but is FAR from over?


You complaint about Hessone laying out his disappointment without acknowledging it does indeed have some basis in fact.

The 'elite' traded for quarterback has not lifted the play of those about him.

The 4 new starters on the o-line haven't improved it.

Trading a pick for an injured player has proven to be more than a questionable move.

Not trading the big stud defensive lineman for picks looks silly after a game where 500 yards of offense against the defense were generated.

This year's redskin team looks suspiciously like last year's: and therein lies the disappointment.

And whereas this is FAR from over, we all secretly know where it'll end up having been there already.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 18, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse

I want to see jerry in his owners box with tears in his eye's

Posted by: hessone | November 18, 2010 1:11 PM

With his "elective surgeries" its highly doubtful he's capable of producing tears any longer.

Posted by: PlayAction | November 18, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse


Thursday Haiku Challenge --

Only rule is to incorporate "it swolled up" into your haiku.

10,000 bonus points to the winner.

Posted by: PlayAction | November 18, 2010 1:07 PM |
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Expand your mind. Get
To work. Better yet, put your
Feet up. Watch TV.

Posted by: hessone | November 18, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Your best effort in awhile, beep-beep. Nicely done.

F Duke.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 18, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Morning, it swolled up
Blood rushes to the penis
Have to rub it out.

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 18, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

And whereas this is FAR from over, we all secretly know where it'll end up having been there already.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 18, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Bravo.

FYI this is required reading for all Redskins fans not just cranky ones. And no, you can't make this stuff up....

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/articles/40063/the-cranky-redskins-fans-guide-to-dan-snyder

Posted by: Pepper5 | November 18, 2010 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Morning, it swolled up
Blood rushes to the penis
Have to rub it out.

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 18, 2010 1:19 PM

Nice iH8...knew you would come through...

So far the score is --

iH8dallas 10,000
hessone -10,000

Posted by: PlayAction | November 18, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

I think we will still make the playoffs.

Our last 2 playoff teams have had blowout losses in the middle of the season.

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 18, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

So the coaches shouldn't adapt to DM5's strengths because he won't be here in a couple years when we turn good? And we spent 2 draft picks on him... That sounds stupid to me.

Also, even if you want to say Dock had little value before, he was still worth a low-round pick(5-7), and now he's absolutely worthless. The main reason why he got cut from Buffalo was because the entire line was underachieving there and they didn't want to pay him the ridiculous contract they gave him. Someone like Leitchencrap is worthless in terms of trade value (and in reality as a football player), Dock had some value, however limited it may have been, and we need every draft pick we can get.

Posted by: JesusFreakKaren | November 18, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse

FYI this is required reading for all Redskins fans not just cranky ones.

Posted by: Pepper5 | November 18, 2010 1:22 PM

Great...homework? Guess I'll print it off and head to the crapper.

Posted by: PlayAction | November 18, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Right now scheme trumps wins. Bottom line.

We're not actually TRYING to win games here, believe it or not. We're trying to establish a system.

Posted by: DikShuttle | November 18, 2010 12:58 PM

I assume you're joking... otherwise, Shanahan will be explaining this quote to Snyder when the season ends:

“The first thing that I look at is wins and losses. That’s number one. The second thing you look at from an offensive and defensive standpoint is points scored. When we talk about the short yardage, we talk about the red zone, we talk about goal line. The reason why we talk about those things and emphasize them is that it all relates to points. Usually the better off you are in those areas, the more it relates to points both offensively and defensively."

Posted by: Alan4 | November 18, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Meanwhile, i nthe other part of the NFL:

Indy v. NE

Oak v. Pitt

NYG v. Philly


Every year, it's Brady v. Manning.

Like it should be.

Stillers v. Raiders always reminds me of Franco Harris catching an unseen pass on a cold day and scoring an immaculate touchdown.

Thing is, the stillers will be in complete beatdown mode.

Vick v. Manning on national television will prove just who owns the NFC East--and the path to the championship game.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 18, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

People say Hess's remarks are on the level of peabrain, and not DikShuttle's comment about scheme trumping wins. REALLY? If that's the case, I must say, everyone needs a brain transplant. In sports, aside from abiding by the rules, it's all about W and L.

Posted by: JesusFreakKaren | November 18, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse


Hess it's not about disagreeing with you, it's that some of your post sound retarded (pabrain) and you continue to post them over and over. We get your point. Move on already.

Posted by: kerzon417 | November 18, 2010 1:13 PM |

and yet to here brown over and over again tell us what an elite QB mcnabb is doesn't get old ?

my last 2 post didn't have anything to do with post from before. RI has a core of older posters that pounce on someone they perceive as anti-redskin. besides, most of what gets discussed on RI is the same thing day in and day out and some won't reply if their comments get shot down and they're proven wrong. it's easy to sit behind your keyboard and whine like a little baby about ignoring someone on a freakin internet board, but to take the heat for something you believe in is what this country is all about, freedom of speech.

all of this is due to a cerrato hangover anyways

Posted by: hessone | November 18, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse


Is everything wrong?
Are you the only one right?
Time to see a shrink.

Posted by: hessone | November 18, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse

I guess that means you're taking the dude line Hess!!!

Posted by: monk811 | November 18, 2010 1:04 PM

Think they'll get offended when he asks them to take a load in their mouth and gargle?

Posted by: PlayAction | November 18, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

I hope not, that's what I plan on saying to the ladies!!!


BTW

I'm frisking the girls,
Pass fat ones to PlayAction,
'It swolled up' no more!!!

Posted by: monk811 | November 18, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse


Only so many
Hours. And so much to get done.
I'd rather take nap.

Posted by: hessone | November 18, 2010 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Heard that, Hess!

Alan, I am by no means joking. Sure, there's going to be efforts to win, but that's not what's most important now.

We're trying to change the culture. Shanny's actiona towards Stompy illustrate this perfectly.

I wouldn't take anything Shanny says publically, literally. See the McNabb debacle for evidence of that.

I don't believe Snyder is worried about this seasons' record. That makes no sense.

Haiku:
It swolled up some more.
I had put a cold compress
on it. Still hurts, tho.

Posted by: DikShuttle | November 18, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

and yet to here brown over and over again tell us what an elite QB mcnabb is doesn't get old ?...

Posted by: hessone | November 18, 2010 1:34 PM

Well, Sally Jenkins rakes McNabb over the coals in her latest column:

"But significant accountability rests with McNabb, who by the latest measurements is performing like one of the worst quarterbacks in the NFL.

Overall, McNabb ranks 29th, and he's been outplayed by Chad Henne, Shaun Hill and Alex Smith, among others. Most crucially, he ranks dead last on third-down plays, successful on just 24 of 111 attempts. That's an abysmal rate. Third down is the very heart of a quarterback's responsibility. To be blunt, it's what McNabb gets paid for."

Posted by: Alan4 | November 18, 2010 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Hessone- take the rest of the day off. Everybody has an off day, week, month. Tomorrow is another day.

In honor of next week...dive turkey

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 18, 2010 1:46 PM | Report abuse

She stepped in my line,
Nice legs, it swolled up, until:
Hers swolled up too!!! Eewww

Posted by: monk811 | November 18, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: hessone | November 18, 2010 1:34 PM

Personally I liked what you brought after you stopped that silly boycott snyder business. But when you say it's the same old thing after 9 games, and actually you started this before we had played 9 games, that just does not make any sense.

MS, or any coach, should be given time to implement his scheme and bring in his players before he gets run out of town. Especially when inheriting the team MS got.

Anyone wanting to get rid of MS/KS and JH is no better than Snyder has been over the last ten years. It takes time to build this thing. Patience is what is needed here.

What I can't figure out is why peeps think that the sky is falling down when a team that last year finished 4-12 is 4-5 this year. Makes no sense.

Posted by: kerzon417 | November 18, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Overall, McNabb ranks 29th, and he's been outplayed by Chad Henne, Shaun Hill and Alex Smith, among others. Most crucially, he ranks dead last on third-down plays, successful on just 24 of 111 attempts. That's an abysmal rate. Third down is the very heart of a quarterback's responsibility. To be blunt, it's what McNabb gets paid for.

This information notwithstanding, you have to hope that if the team sees McNabb as a long term (3 year) solution--I don't--it adds two top flight receivers once FA commences.

If Sidney Rice and VJax can be had to pair with Cooley and Armstrong, sign me up.

Draft picks then can go straight to adding o-linemen.

We'll see what happens later.

But what we see now is that the McNabb experiment ain't what we thought it would be.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 18, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse


Hessone- take the rest of the day off. Everybody has an off day, week, month. Tomorrow is another day.

In honor of next week...dive turkey

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 18, 2010 1:46 PM |

it's a bad day everyday on RI when you take the position I take. I love the redskins, and we'll leave it at that diesel

looking for some freakin bonus points

World is vast and wide.
So much out there to explore.
Right now, let's eat lunch.


Posted by: hessone | November 18, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

lmao, Monk.

34-26-36......9??

Posted by: DikShuttle | November 18, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

She stepped in my line,
Nice legs, it swolled up, until:
Hers swolled up too!!! Eewww

Posted by: monk811 | November 18, 2010 1:48 PM

Haha...this topic is seems right up your alley monk.

I hope beep-beep gets here soon to hand out the bonus points!

What's up with hessone's haiku entries? Can you explain todays rules to him?

Posted by: PlayAction | November 18, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

You really think Gibbs 1 walked into a talented team? I've always thought it was more along the lines of he had to try something to stop Lawrence Taylor and the Dallas D so he beefed up the O-line and went to a one back attack to put an extra tight end on the field to help against LT. It took the rest of the league years to catch up but even then the Super Bowl wins came after strikes where the team stayed together on it's on to practice and be a step ahead when the seasons resummed. Even with that the talent level wasn't such that the Hall Of Fame has been rolling out the red carpet for Gibbs 1 era players. Salary cap may not have been an issue but it really doesn't appear to be this year either with no cap and the ability to purge and dump as desired.

Posted by: williambyrlpricejr | November 18, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse

34-26-36......9??

Posted by: DikShuttle | November 18, 2010 1:55 PM

Took me a second...but hahaha

Posted by: PlayAction | November 18, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

the object is to win and alot of folks think we're still in the hunt for a playoff spot

FINANCE SNYDER-FINANCE SNYDER-FINANCE SNYDER!!!!

Posted by: hessone | November 18, 2010 12:40 PM

No one seriously thinks that. There are eight teams ahead of the Redskins in the NFC. Ignore the NFC West. Then there are seven teams ahead of us, fighting for five playoff spots. All of the seven have won at least six games: Atlanta, Philadelphia, Giants, New Orleans, Chicago, Green Bay, Tampa Bay. The Redskins have won four games. In the last seven games, they need to win at least TWO more games than TWO of those seven teams. That isn't going to happen.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 18, 2010 2:08 PM | Report abuse

She stepped in my line,
Nice legs, it swolled up, until:
Hers swolled up too!!! Eewww

Posted by: monk811 | November 18, 2010 1:48 PM

Haha...this topic is seems right up your alley monk.

I hope beep-beep gets here soon to hand out the bonus points!

What's up with hessone's haiku entries? Can you explain todays rules to him?

Posted by: PlayAction | November 18, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

He's in a zone today, everyone's ganging up on him, I don't want to add to it! Too many dive ass NERDS up in here today!!!

McNabb puts his hands
under Rabach's azz, said hike,
It swolled up on 3!

Posted by: monk811 | November 18, 2010 2:09 PM | Report abuse

lmao, Monk.

34-26-36......9??

Posted by: DikShuttle | November 18, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Damn, she's bigger than me! How'd she tuck that?

Posted by: monk811 | November 18, 2010 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Really wouldn't mind the TSA meet and greets so much if I had an opportunity to choose my greeter.

Am thinking a nice little Megan Fox type --in thigh highs, shirt skirt and halter top.

Also don't know why the TSA greeter must be same sex as the traveler.

As long as we're getting into government-sanctioned sexual assault, let's at least make allowances for the sexual preferences of the travelers.


Posted by: Vic1 | November 18, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Yes, Shanahan is ultimately accountable, but if he is coming out in the media and saying Lichtensteiger is doing well, then I think that suggests that he isn't looking for a replacement. It suggests that the coach is happy with Lichie's play, even though the rest of us see a guy who isn't getting it done.

Posted by: RedSkinHead |

RSH,

I know you don't really believe Shanny when he talks like that do you, whats he supposed to say the guy sucks but we have nothing else?

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 18, 2010 1:06 PM
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I just don't expect a glowing endorsement of a guy who isn't getting it done. I didn't hear that of some of the other players that have hit the door. Heck, he didn't really polish the turd when he was saying why he benched McNabb, did he? What were the quotes, "didn't know two minute offense", "didn't have the cardio vascular conditioning", etc. - and that guy is his starting quarterback, so when he says Lichie is doing well and I see differently, then I have to scratch my head.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 18, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Anyone wanting to get rid of MS/KS and JH is no better than Snyder has been over the last ten years. It takes time to build this thing. Patience is what is needed here.

What I can't figure out is why peeps think that the sky is falling down when a team that last year finished 4-12 is 4-5 this year. Makes no sense.

Posted by: kerzon417 | November 18, 2010 1:52 PM |
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ahh, dialog. I read every word you wrote and I agree with everything you've said. the sky is not falling, it's only a game,


the FO is still trading draft picks for old veterans when we should be doing it the other way around, trade our old veterans for draft picks (the response will be we have no talented old veterans).

I think that there's opportunity out there for some trades, starting with trading 4-3 defenders to teams that play 4-3 for draft picks. take those draft picks and try to aquire 3-4 defenders from other teams or use the picks in the draft as is, packaged and trade up, or trade down for additional picks. keep every draft pick you have after you have made your final trades for players from other teams. sprinkle in some FA's that don't cost you in the long run.

I won't speak about the lost opportunities in regards to trading players like AH or dock, rather, get what you can and move on.

the only thing the FO has done so far is get it's feet wet and I understand they need time, as I read in your post. the thing that has troubled me the most are those trades and the feeling that it truely is more of the same, not to beat it to death.

and yes brown, my "fund snyder" was suppose to be a joke and a stab at Mr Dry, beep-beep

Posted by: hessone | November 18, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Vic1 | November 18, 2010 2:22 PM

Good point...but it's all about improving efficiency...do you think anyone would go through hessone's line if they had a choice?

Monk and I would be overloaded!

Posted by: PlayAction | November 18, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

The 'elite' traded for quarterback has not lifted the play of those about him.

The 4 new starters on the o-line haven't improved it.

Trading a pick for an injured player has proven to be more than a questionable move.

Not trading the big stud defensive lineman for picks looks silly after a game where 500 yards of offense against the defense were generated.

This year's redskin team looks suspiciously like last year's: and therein lies the disappointment.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 18, 2010 1:15 PM


Moe, this is where you contradict yourself...this is supposed to be a team building toward a winning formula, yet you want to see immediate results. Nobody said this was gonna be a playoff contender off the bat...and anyone who thought that any of your above remarks would be true were only setting themselves up for disappointment.

Sounds to me like you thought McNabb would waltz in here and play like he did as an Eagle. And that the O-line would go from a weakness to a strength. And that someone would be stupid enough to offer up a 1st or 2nd round pick for Haynesworth. None of those was EVER likely to be true, though many of us wished for it.

So for those of us who realize it'll be next year at the earliest that this team is able to contend for the playoffs aren't ringing our hands with angst over the evens of the first 9 games. Because the Skins are almost exactly who we thought they'd be.

The only thing rooted in fact right now is that the season is far from over. We've seen Redskin teams start 5-6 and 5-7, yet still make the playoffs. Writing them off at 4-5 is premature. If Mike Vick can go from mediocre QB to prison inmate to dominant, certainly McNabb can progress in a new offense going into his 2nd season...

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 18, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

First off, the players aren't very good. Remember DT11? Everyone said "there has to be a way to use him. coaches should be flexible." Now he's with a new team, new scheme. But he can't play. There was no way to "adapt" to DT11 and there's no way to adapt to some of the other slugs out there.

Second, the reason you hire Mike Shanahan and Jim Haslett is because you want to change what you're doing. You want a new offense, a new defense. You don't get that by "adapting to the players we have now" because those players were chosen for an offense and a defense that you don't want to run anymore.

You run the offense and the defense that you want to run and see which players can adapt. The ones that fit in, you keep. The other ones you cut/trade -- you don't keep running the old stuff for them because the players that you've added to the team were selected to fit into the new scheme.

There really is only one way to change what you're doing. Change.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 18, 2010 12:28 PM

That was incredibly well said. Don't agree with a chunk of it, but really well said.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 18, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

lmao @ zeke

Posted by: DikShuttle | November 18, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse

dive ass

Posted by: PlayAction | November 18, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Good analysis of the o-line play, such as it was, against Philly. The link:

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/word-muth/2010/word-muth-blowouts


Posted by: Samson151 | November 18, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse


Posted by: brownwood26 | November 18, 2010 2:30 PM |

brown, I read every word you posted and,

to think a teams FO is still going in the same illfated direction has nothing to do with immediate results, that's the last thing you'd think about.


Posted by: hessone | November 18, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse


Ask for opinions.
Mull it over. Then you can
Just do what you want.


Posted by: hessone | November 18, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

ir portis and let my end his career as #2 rusher in skins history... portis is taking up a roster spot just like roydell williams, galloway, lichetensuck, and rabach to name a few...

Posted by: jimmy_the_crickett | November 18, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

BTW, raise your hand if you think Shanatan would be happy with Portis reinstituting his dress-up Thursdays...

Posted by: peauxsucent | November 18, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

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