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Clinton Portis sore after full-speed workout

By Rick Maese

Redskins running back Clinton Portis elaborated on his health Tuesday at a Redskins community event, saying he suffered swelling in his injured groin muscle after Monday's workout and expects to be a game-time decision for the Nov. 15 game against Philadelphia.

"I may be able to be ready for Monday, but I feel like it's a work in progress," Portis said Tuesday. "I got some work done yesterday, as you all seen. But I think it's swelling today. I got the rest of the week to try to get right and make sure I'm going to be 100 percent."

Portis suffered the injury Oct. 3 against the Eagles and hasn't played since. His first full-speed workout since was on Monday and he said he woke up sore Tuesday.

"Running full-speed for the first time, they had already told me the symptoms that was going to come out of it," Portis said. "It's not a shock."

Earlier in the day, Portis said on his weekly appearance on "The Mike Wise Show" on WJFK that he was "working" to get back for Monday. But Portis also said he feels no pressure to return for the Eagles game.

"The good thing about it is no one is rushing me back," Portis said at the community event. "I think Coach Shanahan knows what type of injury this is. He kind of told me to calm down yesterday. I think he seen the excitement in my eyes from being back on the field, and he kind of called me off yesterday and was like, 'Don't overdo it.'"

By Rick Maese  | November 9, 2010; 2:58 PM ET
Categories:  Clinton Portis, Running backs  
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Comments

Who need him.. his days are numbered.

Posted by: iubiquity | November 9, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

These two aren't capable of a blog fight. Need men for that. These two are purse swingers. "I diddled your dead mom." "Your posts are boring to me." That sort of stuff.

Can't have a blog fight without RedDMV or Scamp.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 9, 2010 2:25 PM |

"I diddled your dead mom"? That's exactly the kind of thing that RedDMV would post. It's the thought of someone with the mind of a 11 year-old. Stinging rebukes are where you take someone's words and use them against them. Like the following exchange:

Except for me, of course. I was in disguise.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 5, 2010 9:04 PM |

Too bad your posts aren't in disguise. That way we wouldn't recognize them for the crap that they are.

Posted by: BlackBagOps | November 6, 2010 6:18 PM |

Posted by: BlackBagOps | November 9, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

um, McNabb...

Posted by: RedDMV | November 9, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Use him on 3rd down only!

Posted by: iubiquity | November 9, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

It is sickening to think we are probably going to be back in the market for a qb at year end.


But this time around, we go into what is a great market.

We can flip our alleged 'elite' quarterback (and AH) into picks no matter how he plays for the final 8 games.

We can use a #1 on a quarterback and the flipped for picks on interior offensive lineman (c/g/rt).

Plus, we have a coach in Shanahan who has an excellent offensive system, so the rookie q-back will be properly trained.

What folks must see is that increasingly, very able young quarterbacks are coming out of colleges that run NFL-lite offensive systems.

There are three kids to choose from who can start on day one next year (Luck, Mallett, Locker).

The whole situation has 'WIN' written all over it if you ask me.

But again, no one is.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 9, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

My groin is swelling, too.

Posted by: Thinker_ | November 9, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Hey... I haven't talked about banging a cadaverous mother in at least two months.

A little credit here would be nice, beep...

Posted by: RedDMV | November 9, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Translation - CP will be out for MNF. And JAmes RB dude will be in......

Last Thread: Big Ben was never available.

Hindsight would tell us the best thing to do was use the 2nd round pick on a RG/LG/C...... And trade up in the 3rd for the Real Colt.....Too bad hindsight is very irrelavent in real life....especially when pcking against the spread the very next week (I'm talking to you Patriots!)....

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 9, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

CP's a lame duck, literally and literally!

Posted by: iubiquity | November 9, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Did they actually say that CP has a swollen groin muscle? Usually I get that after seeing a pretty woman. Brownwood gets that after seeing Pelosi speeches. Pabrian gets that after watching Jason Campbell play.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 9, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Don't feel bad PlayAction, I usually have no idea what I'm going off about even when I started it.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 9, 2010 3:03 PM

Haha...well I think I have ADD...any post longer than 3 sentences then I have to move on...blog fights are out of the question for me.

Posted by: PlayAction | November 9, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

My groin is swelling, too.

Posted by: Thinker_


Chafing boils are a b*tch...

Posted by: RedDMV | November 9, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Who needs him?.... his days are numbered.

Agreed.

I'm trying to figure out how a team is so desperate to have a player who's missed major portions of two seasons on it's starting roster.

With a weak/soft line, I'd druther have Torain's BANG ang take a look at Davis straight ahead speed.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 9, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Gotta say I'm pretty disappointed with the RI crew here. A haiku challenge was put out this morning involving Dallass and suckery and nobody stepped up. Used to be we would have 30-50 haiku's up in this mofo. What a sorry blog this is becoming.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 9, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Hey, I worked hard on my haiku, go back and look. I think I even rhymed it too!!!

I think there were only like 2 or 3 of us that completed the assignment and participated, everyone else was playing with themselves or something.

Posted by: monk811 | November 9, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

It was widely reported the Rooneys were willing to trade Roethlisberger when all that stuff was going on over the off season. Flounder you can go back to waving your pom poms everything Redskin related. Some people on here act like they know everything and are intolerable.

Posted by: ToddStinkston | November 9, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Yes, because of my obesity.

Posted by: Thinker_ | November 9, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse

vote for Monk vs. BlackBag on the first card.

Posted by: PlayAction | November 9, 2010 2:18 PM

These two aren't capable of a blog fight. Need men for that. These two are purse swingers. "I diddled your dead mom." "Your posts are boring to me." That sort of stuff.

Can't have a blog fight without RedDMV or Scamp.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 9, 2010 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Ok, first of all I apologized for the crack about your mom, I didn't know she was dead and I immediately sent out an apology, naturally you missed it, or chose not to read it!

Secondly, it's not 'purse swingers', it's 'European Shoulder Bag Swingers', get it right!!!

Thirdly, that's about it. I like the word third cause it rhymes with turd!!! Sorry if some people can't get my low-brow humor, maybe I should bring it up from a 2nd grade level to their 3rd grade level!

Posted by: monk811 | November 9, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Too bad hindsight is very irrelavent in real life....especially when pcking against the spread the very next week (I'm talking to you Patriots!)....

Posted by: 4thFloor>/i>


LMAO! True dat ish!

Posted by: RedDMV | November 9, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Hey, I worked hard on my haiku, go back and look. I think I even rhymed it too!!!

I think there were only like 2 or 3 of us that completed the assignment and participated, everyone else was playing with themselves or something.

Posted by: monk811 | November 9, 2010 3:15 PM |

I actually did catch yours. I chuckled. By no one I really meant hardly anyone. I H8 came to play too.


Jerruh Jones bleary eyes
Crying because his team sucks
Makes me smile all day

Brokeback fans suck balls
They smell like twice crapped tacos
Love to see them cry

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 9, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

I think there were only like 2 or 3 of us that completed the assignment and participated, everyone else was playing with themselves or something.

Posted by: monk811 | November 9, 2010 3:19 PM

I don't believe in haiku.

Posted by: PlayAction | November 9, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Hey... I haven't talked about banging a cadaverous mother in at least two months.

A little credit here would be nice, beep...

Posted by: RedDMV | November 9, 2010 3:14 PM
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Red,
You can do all the good in the world and no one will ever call you a philanthropist, but if you diddle one goat...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 9, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

For real, though...

They NEED to get Chad Simpson ass back there as a change of pace. The guy can fly.

But, Shanny knows what he's doing. He won two Super Bowls with John Elway for cryin' out loud!

Posted by: Thinker_ | November 9, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

I think there were only like 2 or 3 of us that completed the assignment and participated, everyone else was playing with themselves or something.

Posted by: monk811 | November 9, 2010 3:19 PM

I don't believe in haiku.

Posted by: PlayAction | November 9, 2010 3:26 PM
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I owned a Kia Haiku and that thing wouldn't start on cold mornings...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 9, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

The diff is that I had my screen name long before COD came out with their game. Any moron can pick the name of a Skin HOFer years after his career is over as his handle. Just ask Diesel44 about this.

Posted by: BrokeBackOps | November 9, 2010 2:25 PM | Report abuse

I don't know why you keep talking about a game, your User ID comes from that movie where those cowboys kept playing 'hide the sausage'! Pretty lame if you ask me, but don't make fun of the fact that my ID is taken from the greatest WR in Redskins history. I'm proud mine is from a WR instead of yours which has to do with your WIDE Receiving!!!

Posted by: monk811 | November 9, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

I owned a Kia Haiku and that thing wouldn't start on cold mornings...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 9, 2010 3:29 PM

I heard they were having problems in the cold...did you check the number of syllables?

Posted by: PlayAction | November 9, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

You can do all the good in the world and no one will ever call you a philanthropist, but if you diddle one goat...

You grow fur on your balls?

Posted by: RedDMV | November 9, 2010 3:33 PM | Report abuse

At the risk of stating the obvious, CP26 is probably not going to play another down with the Redskins this season.

Dude has gotten quite comfortable with sitting out long stretches of the season.

Wish he'd just take his coach's advice, and his $8 million guaranteed, and "Don't overdo it."

I also suspect that nobody is rushing him back because nobody really wants him back.

Posted by: Vic1 | November 9, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Where are all the folks who were writing Clinton's obituary in October and saying he'd never play another down for the Skins?

Can't deny the guy is a warrior....

Posted by: Rypien11 | November 9, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Translation - CP will be out for MNF. And JAmes RB dude will be in......

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 9, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

I agree with you....Davis sticking around when other teams wanted to sign him to their active roster is a strong indicator that we run with Torain/Davis/Keiland this week with Chad running back KOs.

But, as we all know, there is really only one way to know the truth...

AN ONLINE POLL!!!!! YEAH!

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | November 9, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

My haiku got beeped , but it's on the last thread and quite clever.

Here is another:

Jerry Jones confused

Roy Williams keeps hope alive

The red head of dread

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 9, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Gotta say I'm pretty disappointed with the RI crew here. A haiku challenge was put out this morning involving Dallass and suckery and nobody stepped up. Used to be we would have 30-50 haiku's up in this mofo. What a sorry blog this is becoming.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 9, 2010 2:51 PM


Sorry, Scamp!


Thy challenge I missed
but gauntlet dropped, let us now
haiku this mofo


"Wade" is also the
verb of choice when wandering
through a putrid swamp


Past being prologue
soon Skeletor skulks sidelines
for you, Herr Garrett


Gone, the Cowgirl trolls?
Big Blue Balls, where hast thou hid?
He-he-he, losers


These sour grapes and
Sweet, sweet Cowgirl tears: a brew
intoxicating

Posted by: freakzilla | November 9, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Anyone think we can take the top interior line man available then get a qb??

My guess is cam newton will be available when we select, esp with his recent troubles

Thoughts??

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | November 9, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse

I have swelling in my groin, wait wrong website....

Posted by: wjeremy26 | November 9, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Vic1 - One thing CP knows about is circling the wagons and winning games in November/Decemeber......He will be around this season....(well into the playoffs)....

We have hit bottom. Our Antonio Pierce horn blowing moment. Our back to back Time Out moment. Our 5-6 in 2005 moment. Our Philly Benching McNabb moment.

And after all of those moments.....those teams were playoff bound......

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 9, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Anyone think we can take the top interior line man available then get a qb??

My guess is cam newton will be available when we select, esp with his recent troubles

Thoughts??

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | November 9, 2010 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Gotta say I'm pretty disappointed with the RI crew here. A haiku challenge was put out this morning involving Dallass and suckery and nobody stepped up. Used to be we would have 30-50 haiku's up in this mofo. What a sorry blog this is becoming.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 9, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse
____________

'Girls fans hide in shame
Jerrah keeps searching for fame
We laugh while they blame

Posted by: skinsfan713 | November 9, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Way to pick up the torch guys!!! I'll check back later for more entertaining haikus from the RI crew. Until then here is another contribution:

Bolied bag of boners
What Jerry Jones likes to hire
I hope they all die

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 9, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Ok, first of all I apologized for the crack about your mom, I didn't know she was dead and I immediately sent out an apology, naturally you missed it, or chose not to read it!

Posted by: monk811 | November 9, 2010 3:22 PM

No, I saw it and thought it was unnecessary. No reason you should have known, and I don't take it personally.

That's not my point. There are a whole line of insults up here that have been so overused that they're just boring cliches. Diddling a wife, mother, sister is one. Live in your parents basement is one. Working in a fast food restaurant is one. Etc. People who use them are lazy butts, too lazy to think.

Except for RedDMV (who hasn't used them in a while) because he is forever inventing new variants on them or combining them in previously unseen ways. That's why he can pull off a blog fight and you can't -- he's entertaining and you're predictable. Of course, you're still way more entertaining than BlackOps who watched me bang his sister in his bed in his parents' basement after he came home working at Wendy's. So easy a caveman can do it.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 9, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Thoughts??

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | November 9, 2010 3:44 PM

We are on the same page. OLine 1st. QB is secondary. I would rather get a 5 yr vet who is a cast off with potential.

*cough* TJack *cough*

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 9, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Vic1 - One thing CP knows about is circling the wagons and winning games in November/Decemeber......He will be around this season....(well into the playoffs)....

We have hit bottom. Our Antonio Pierce horn blowing moment. Our back to back Time Out moment. Our 5-6 in 2005 moment. Our Philly Benching McNabb moment.

And after all of those moments.....those teams were playoff bound......

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 9, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse

hug

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 9, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

You can do all the good in the world and no one will ever call you a philanthropist, but if you diddle one goat...

You grow fur on your balls?

Posted by: RedDMV | November 9, 2010 3:33 PM
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See? Now only a true goat diddler would know that.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 9, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Vic1 - One thing CP knows about is circling the wagons and winning games in November/Decemeber......He will be around this season....(well into the playoffs)....

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 9, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse

--

I hope so. Will readily admit I am not licensed to practice medicine on this blog and won't try to get into Clinton-psychiatry either.

Just recalled last season when he wasted a roster spot for several weeks -- before finally going on IR.

Given the obvious needs here, there and wherever, am thinking it's time for him to put up or shut up -- and preferably, both.

Posted by: Vic1 | November 9, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

The last 2 times we went to the playoffs we had records of 5-6 and 5-7.

With Brunell and Collins.

4-4 with McNabb already, 2-0 in the East, 4-2 in the conference.

We make the playoffs this year, wildcard because of tiebreakers.


Posted by: iH8dallas | November 9, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

4th..

I truely feel the reason we got mcnabb is cuz our suspect line

He was pulled to prevent his injuries to rack up further

I think we should keep mcnabb for two yrs more, wait one more for our future qb

I know there's a chance mcnabb could sign elsewhere, with a few more options, then we may draft this yr

Who would you take of your pick

Tavaris Jackson

Mike Vick

Cam Newton

D McNabb

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | November 9, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

You grow fur on your balls?

Posted by: RedDMV | November 9, 2010 3:33 PM
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See? Now only a true goat diddler would know that.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 9, 2010 3:51 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0ByM5GjLrk

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 9, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

I like Tavaris Jackson.

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 9, 2010 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Bolied bag of boners
What Jerry Jones likes to hire
I hope they all die

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 9, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse
Nice alliteration in line 1.

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 9, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

4th..

I truely feel the reason we got mcnabb is cuz our suspect line

He was pulled to prevent his injuries to rack up further

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | November 9, 2010 3:56 PM

So you believe THIS is what Shanahan was looking at when he pulled McNabb?

(Notice there's nary a blocker in the picture!)

http://sports.nationalpost.com/2010/11/05/nfl-picks-week-9-the-punctured-ego-edition/

Posted by: Alan4 | November 9, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Of course, you're still way more entertaining than BlackOps

Posted by: beep-beep | November 9, 2010 3:47 PM

Well, that was kinda sweet.

Posted by: PlayAction | November 9, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

The Giants just released Santana's little brother, Sinorice. I guess it was an injury settlement so he is probably not healthy but should the Redskins kick those tires?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 9, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Given the obvious needs here, there and wherever, am thinking it's time for him to put up or shut up -- and preferably, both.

Posted by: Vic1 | November 9, 2010 3:54 PM

Agreed. Irregardless of what he did in the past, these last 8 games (which = half of the season for the non-math peeps on the blog) of his redskin career would be remembered the most (for most peeps)......

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 9, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Except for RedDMV (who hasn't used them in a while) because he is forever inventing new variants on them or combining them in previously unseen ways. That's why he can pull off a blog fight and you can't -- he's entertaining and you're predictable. Of course, you're still way more entertaining than BlackOps who watched me bang his sister in his bed in his parents' basement after he came home working at Wendy's. So easy a caveman can do it.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 9, 2010 3:47 PM
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Shouldn't that be "So easy a caveman could do her"? Oh, wait, I see. You were talking about the put down and not Blackbag's sister...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 9, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

So you believe THIS is what Shanahan was looking at when he pulled McNabb?

Posted by: Alan4 | November 9, 2010 4:04 PM

Holy smokes! Hurts looking at that picture. If that's the case then why call out DM and not the line...wtf...they need a kick in the tires!

Posted by: PlayAction | November 9, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

I'm starting to think that mcnabbs gotta stay, if not shanny will lose all credibilty

He's benched elway 4 times, let's see if he lights the fire right before the iggles

I think we grab o line rnds 1 & 2 then trade into 3 n 4 for a WR & Dline

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | November 9, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Haiku are boring
Why should I try to write one?
Still, Dallas sucks balls

BTW, what's with the constant use of the word diddle all of the sudden? Didn't that word go out of use in the 19th century?

Posted by: kaasmaster | November 9, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

I'm starting to think that mcnabbs gotta stay, if not shanny will lose all credibilty

He's benched elway 4 times, let's see if he lights the fire right before the iggles

I think we grab o line rnds 1 & 2 then trade into 3 n 4 for a WR & Dline

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | November 9, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

We should be running more screen passes.

Hopefully James Davis gets some on Monday Night.

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 9, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

I like Tavaris Jackson.

Posted by: iH8dallas


Co-sign. I think that dude is going to have Aaron Rodgers syndrome once Brint Favor calls it a career.

Really hope the Vikes don't re-sign him in the offseason and Washington signs him as a backup. In a perfect world McNabb re-signs for 3 more years, TJax comes here as a free agent, learns from McNabb and takes over once McNabb calls it a career.

After winning "da bowl" in 2012 TJax becomes the starter and the 'skins become perennial SB contenders...

Posted by: RedDMV | November 9, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Haiku are boring
Why should I try to write one?
Still, Dallas sucks balls

BTW, what's with the constant use of the word diddle all of the sudden? Didn't that word go out of use in the 19th century?

Posted by: kaasmaster | November 9, 2010 4:13 PM
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And haiku didn't?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 9, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

I thought diddle meant to take a whiz?

Posted by: PlayAction | November 9, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

McNabb will re-sign after an awesome 2nd half of the season.

Do we still lead the league in takeaways?

That will be huge for this team going down the stretch.

This season is fun.

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 9, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

I thought diddle meant to take a whiz?

Posted by: PlayAction | November 9, 2010 4:16 PM

That would be *piddle*.

Posted by: Alan4 | November 9, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Who would you take of your pick

Tavaris Jackson

Mike Vick

Cam Newton

D McNabb

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | November 9, 2010 3:56 PM

We'll never know the real answer for the McNabb benching. But I am just not as hopeful that Shanny Jr and McNabb are getting along....But I want McNabb here for the next 3 years (with only 2 gaureented).

I would take your choices in the following order:

TJack
Vick/McNabb are even (since both are injury prone, they both scare me).
Newton (Haven't seen enough of him)

And Locker's stock has plummeted IMO. He still may be available in the late 1st/early 2nd. Mallet will be gone by the 1st 3 picks (SanFran/Carolina/Bills).....

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 9, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Who would you take of your pick

Tavaris Jackson

Mike Vick

Cam Newton

D McNabb

Posted by: brandon_in_cali


There's something very one-sided about your list. When I figure out what it is, I'll let you know...

Posted by: RedDMV | November 9, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

I thought diddle meant to take a whiz?

Posted by: PlayAction | November 9, 2010 4:16 PM

No, that's Piddle.

Posted by: kaasmaster | November 9, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Haynesworth was benched/inactive/humiliated...etc.

Look how he is playing now, does anyone still not want him on this team?

McNabb got benched with good reason, and he will come out Monday night throwing Scud missiles.

Trust me...this team will be fine, and in the playoffs.

Weren't people discussing Andy Reid and his 11-0 record after the bye week.

Doesn't that also mean McNabb is undefeated after the bye week?

we are coming off the bye.

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 9, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: RedDMV | November 9, 2010 4:16 PM

Pencil it in!

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 9, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

That would be *piddle*.

Posted by: Alan4 | November 9, 2010 4:19 PM

Oh yeah...thanks alan.

I lol when IH8 said this season is fun..then I thought about it and it is...2 of the 4 losses were even fun and exciting games. Rams/Lions felt like a step back...but this season has been fun...even with beep-beep here.

Posted by: PlayAction | November 9, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Who would you take of your pick

Tavaris Jackson

Mike Vick

Cam Newton

D McNabb

Posted by: brandon_in_cali


There's something very one-sided about your list. When I figure out what it is, I'll let you know...

Posted by: RedDMV | November 9, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

They are all "mobile" quarterbacks.

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 9, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

You can do all the good in the world and no one will ever call you a philanthropist, but if you diddle one goat...

You grow fur on your balls?

Posted by: RedDMV
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See? Now only a true goat diddler would know that.

Posted by: RedSkinHead


Although I never seen it, I think due to appearance I'd prefer to bang a real live sheep over a goat. (Woolly balls or furry balls?) Heard the female snatch looks like a human female... mmmmm, human female snatch.... g'day, peeps....

Posted by: RedDMV | November 9, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

The Giants just released Santana's little brother, Sinorice. I guess it was an injury settlement so he is probably not healthy but should the Redskins kick those tires?

Yeah, at least so Has can debrief him.

Posted by: wireman65 | November 9, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

WTF....i don't even...red ends the day by giving a shout out to beastiality....friggin bama....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 9, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

4th n Red

I like the thought of newton because it could be a reality

Shanny likes mobile passers with strong arm

Newton is a great talent was leading for heisman till today more allegations came out

This guys stock may drop hard

I saw grab him n sit him behind mcnabb for the 2 or 3 yrs you mentioned 4th

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | November 9, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

This game is one of the biggest in McNabb's career. Not only does he face Philly, after having been benched, on national TV, but the guy is in a contract year. Everyone knows he's been playing bad and he has to turn it around Monday night if he wants to get a big contract and a big contract with a good team. If he can handle the pressure, he's gonna look good Monday night or he'll be a back up in Buffalo next year.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 9, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

4th n Red

I like the thought of newton because it could be a reality

Shanny likes mobile passers with strong arm

Newton is a great talent was leading for heisman till today more allegations came out

This guys stock may drop hard

I saw grab him n sit him behind mcnabb for the 2 or 3 yrs you mentioned 4th

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | November 9, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Brandon,

The reports out of Florida are that the cheating allegations are complete BS as is the report about wanting money.

The problem is any f-ing idiot can say this crap to the media and everyone believes it's true, so like you say this will hurt his draft stock because idiots can't think for themselves.

I would definatley take a flyer on him with a 2nd round pick if you go O-Line with the first pick.

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 9, 2010 4:40 PM | Report abuse

What's the status of Newton? Going pro this year? I saw one game and did think, 'wow'.

If this is his only starting year.....I can't see him going early....late 1st rounder? What say Kiper?

@Beep - Spot on on all points.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 9, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Quarterbacks Cam Newton at Auburn, Taylor Martinez at Nebraska and Denard Robinson at Michigan have burst on the scene with some big-time runs and have put up some big-time numbers this football season.


ESPN's Mel Kiper Jr. said on the network Thursday that Newton has the best shot at pro ball among the three newcomers.


Kiper didn't say Newton, a junior, is ready for the NFL, but he said he likes what he's seen halfway through his first season of starting.


Kiper's scouting report on Newton:


"Phenomenal arm strength. He's been throwing the ball very well this year. First year as a starting quarterback in the SEC. When you look at Cam Newton's running ability, it's off the charts as well, accounting for 21 touchdowns.


"Cam Newton -- potentially -- is a big-time prospect. He's early on in his college career -- only halfway through as a starting quarterback at Auburn -- but right now, I like what I see."


Fellow ESPN pro draft guy Todd McShay also liked Newton, but said, "He has a long way to go as a passer.


"He's generally throwing on the run. Maybe it's going to be a long-term project."


McShay said Robinson could have a long pro career -- as a receiver or kick returner.

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2010/10/mel_kiper_gives_a_vote_for_aub.html

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 9, 2010 4:59 PM | Report abuse

4th n Flounder

I think cam will come out if its true.

I hope they are bs because to have everything handed to you and then cheat it away would be horrible

I wouldn't cry tho if we went top two pick on O line.

We could get 2 top ten lineman, hopefully gaurd n center

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | November 9, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

4th n Flounder

I think cam will come out if its true.

I hope they are bs because to have everything handed to you and then cheat it away would be horrible

I wouldn't cry tho if we went top two pick on O line.

We could get 2 top ten lineman, hopefully gaurd n center

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | November 9, 2010 5:13 PM | Report abuse

the screwup coach leaves
Staff job promotions for all
still one and seven

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 9, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

"Cam Newton -- potentially -- is a big-time prospect. He's early on in his college career -- only halfway through as a starting quarterback at Auburn -- but right now, I like what I see."


Fellow ESPN pro draft guy Todd McShay also liked Newton, but said, "He has a long way to go as a passer.

"He's generally throwing on the run. Maybe it's going to be a long-term project."

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 9, 2010 4:59 PM | Report abuse
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Cam Newton scares me. He strikes me as a prime candidate for an NFL bust: (1) he's a guy who has only started 1 season, when most available data indicates that QBs who make it are the ones that have started alot of college games; (2) McShay is already questioning his arm, which means delivery and accuracy (not that McShay knows everything ... or anything), and Kiper admits that he has a long way to go (3) he is a running QB who throws on the run alot, not from the pocket. This guy sounds like a lesser version of Vince Young. No thanks until he proves himself for another year or he falls in the draft, but he'll probably put on an amazing combine and get drafted really high.

Posted by: skinsfan713 | November 9, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

How can you keep a
Cowboy out of your front yard?
Erect a goalpost!

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | November 9, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse

McShay is already questioning his arm, which means delivery and accuracy (not that McShay knows everything ... or anything), and Kiper admits that he has a long way to go


Posted by: skinsfan713 | November 9, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse
_________

Kiper and McShay didn't quite phrase it that way in 4th's quotes, but when I heard Kiper say "potentially" a big time prospect, and McShay say "long way to go as a passer", what I wrote above is how I interpreted their comments.

Posted by: skinsfan713 | November 9, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

The way they word what they think about Newton tells me 2nd-3rd round pick....Start him in year 2/3 while learning to be a pro and learning the system.....I am not worried about arm strength...See: Colt McCoy...He has heart (just look at his TD run)

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 9, 2010 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Clinton who?

Posted by: 44fx2901 | November 9, 2010 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Cam's scouting report sounds like a younger version of McNabb. Likes to throw on the run? Perfect for a crappy O-line!

Maybe Shanahan is the one putting out all those nasty rumors about CNewt so he'll slip to where we're picking!

Posted by: Alan4 | November 9, 2010 5:47 PM | Report abuse

mentioned a day or so ago -- saw Stanford QB Andrew Luck on one series. Figured I'd spend a few minutes to see if the hype made sense. Probbly threw about 5 passes in that series -- he looked terrific. Every throw, right amount of touch, perfect location, quick decisions. Doubt he could have looked any better.

Can't say I know enough about Luck to say I'd like to have him here in DC. But that small sample was really impressive.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 9, 2010 5:47 PM | Report abuse

The way they word what they think about Newton tells me 2nd-3rd round pick....Start him in year 2/3 while learning to be a pro and learning the system.....I am not worried about arm strength...See: Colt McCoy...He has heart (just look at his TD run)

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 9, 2010 5:38 PM | Report abuse
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2-3 round would be okay (although that would be prime territory to pick up a starting OG or RT).

Didn't mean to imply I think he has arm strength issues - he seems to have a strong enough arm. My issue with these type of guys is accuracy and decision making. I often don't put alot of stock into collegiate completion percentage for QBs of title contending teams from power conferences, simply because half the time those teams have a tremendous talent advantage in 9 of their 12 games which tends to inflate a QB's stats. Can he be a smart, accurate QB with a quick release and can he read an NFL defense? Don't know, but if so, it'd be great to see this kind of athlete w/ the 'Skins.

Posted by: skinsfan713 | November 9, 2010 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Portis is done. He might have a few good games left, so might as well let him play. This season is over anyway. Looking at the remaining schedule, the Skins will need some wild luck to win more than 2 games. So play Portis and let him enjoy the end of his career.

Posted by: diesel_skins_ | November 9, 2010 5:56 PM | Report abuse

mentioned a day or so ago -- saw Stanford QB Andrew Luck on one series. Figured I'd spend a few minutes to see if the hype made sense. Probbly threw about 5 passes in that series -- he looked terrific. Every throw, right amount of touch, perfect location, quick decisions. Doubt he could have looked any better.

Can't say I know enough about Luck to say I'd like to have him here in DC. But that small sample was really impressive.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 9, 2010 5:47 PM | Report abuse
_______

I attended a very small lunch with his father a few years ago. Very, very smart man, and based on that lunch, I'm really not sure Luck will come out in the draft unless he is ready to graduate from Stanford, which seems unlikely given that he's an academic junior (I think).

Posted by: skinsfan713 | November 9, 2010 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Tavaris Jackson is terrible. He reminds of me of the worst quarterback ever to play the game for an extended period of time...Kordell Stewart. Awful.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 9, 2010 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Cam Newton? Great, just what we need, another Auburn quarterback. That worked out sooooooo well for us before.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 9, 2010 6:02 PM | Report abuse

Can I ask a question?

If McNabb does not play well down the stretch, why SHOULD the Redskins give him an extension...cause his feelings were hurt?

Posted by: rickyroge | November 9, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Can I ask a question?

If McNabb does not play well down the stretch, why SHOULD the Redskins give him an extension...cause his feelings were hurt?

Posted by: rickyroge | November 9, 2010 6:04 PM |

Here's my "playing devil's advocate" answer. Because he's a leader, extremely experienced, and a team player. That all leads to a guy that can help you groom the next franchise quarterback. Hard to beat his qualifications for that. He's seen it all.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 9, 2010 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Hard to believe anyone is up here touting Tarvaris friggin' Jackson... if it's not McNabb in 2011, that means we're starting over, in other words that we're screwed again.

And this notion that the Skins ought to be thinking about Cam Newton or anyone else largely because of his ability to make plays behind a lousy O line... ugh.

Can we please all join our hands together and pray to the football gods that, whoever is making the decisions at Redskin Park this offseason, they make OFFENSIVE LINE the #1 priority?

I don't just mean one guy on the O line, either. I mean an infusion of blue chip players, two stud FAs/high picks plus 2-3 more solid dudes.

(Yeah, I know Santa hasn't brought us this present even though it's been the top of our list for the past bazillion years, but that doesn't mean it's not a legit need.)

F thinking about the QB so much you forget about the five utterly critical dudes who line up in front of him...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | November 9, 2010 6:20 PM | Report abuse

Who needs Portis? He's a lame duck? You all are fools. Look at the sack numbers since he has been out. Do any of you all realize there is more to being a RB in the NFL than just running the ball? CP has value far beyond what you all can see... he has earned far more respect than you bunch of whiners are giving him. Find me a better available back...otherwise you all should just shut up.

Posted by: Craightond | November 9, 2010 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Hey Clinton: Is your first language ENGLISH??

Posted by: aginsburg | November 9, 2010 6:27 PM | Report abuse

I Think if we don't sign Mc5 the best situation is for him to play horrible the rest of the season. Because if he plays well and we don't resign him, it would be really bad for us.

Posted by: roccoskins | November 9, 2010 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Anyone notice how well JC and Colt are playing??? Give either of them some time to throw and presto change-o... a QB!!!!

Posted by: kmmcgrath | November 9, 2010 6:34 PM | Report abuse

Who would you take of your pick? (sic)

Tavaris Jackson
Mike Vick
Cam Newton
D McNabb

Here's my take:

T. Jackson. Demonstrated inability to succeed and is a marginal quarterback. Might be a decent backup for a game, but not a player you'd ever entrust to be a commander of a team with playoff goals.

M. Vick. Reprehensible person that deserves no place in professional sports. His actions off the field, while technically resolved through his legal penalities, cannot be separated from his professional place. I live in his hometown and there is nothing in this player's history that shows he understands remorse, has changed, or even has a conscience. He has mastered the concept of "me" and that is his only skill. He deserves punishment on the field and should be shunned by any team that seeks to have any integrity in sports. He is simply sub-human once you visualize how he PERSONALLY killed innocent dogs and that he INTENTIONALLY PROFITTED off that. Let him bag groceries, but he has no place in the national limelight except as a penniless advocate for putting others like himself behind bars.

Cam Newton. Another ethically challenged player whose only value is as an athlete. He is a reprehensible person of character and if any of the allegations of him cheating is accurate, he has no place in any academic institution because his mere presence violates any Honors' Pledge.

Donovan McNabb. This is a case where half the players are worse than him and half the players are better than him. He has constantly been over-rated by the sports press. The bigger the game, the less impressive he is. If you accept his 10% dirt ball, 10% over thrown balls, 10% what the hell were you thinking plays, and then 70% substantial plays, then McNabb is a decent player. Unfortunately most quarterbacks outgrow these 10% categories but McNabb carries these like cat fur on his ass. At least he has no ethical issues and he has at least demonstrated getting teams into playoffs. By default, of the players listed, I'd pick McNabb.

Posted by: laserwizard | November 9, 2010 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Maybe one of you diehard Portis lovers can explain to the rest of us why an old running back who knows how to block is so indispensable? Jeez, how hard is it to chip a lineman before going out for a screen pass. How complicated is it to learn how to stay in and pick up a blitzing LB?

We've all read and heard what's on CP's mind. If he is our smartest and toughest running back, God help us.

Posted by: NYPDee | November 9, 2010 6:43 PM | Report abuse

@Posted by: Craightond | November 9, 2010 6:23 PM

I agree that Portis is a monster at picking up blitzes. There are few backs that are better. I also think that Portis can still be effective in the running game.
However, I don't think he should be an every down type of rusher anymore. His body is showing that it can't stand up to that type of abuse anymore.

I believe that Portis could be a very good third down RB, especially if he works on improving his receiving. The problem with keeping Portis around beyond this year lies in his salary. He is due a whopping 8.25 million next year. At this point in his carreer that is way too much. If he is willing to renegotiate for a reasonable salary, then I say keep him around. If he won't agree to that, I can't see the Redskins keeping him after this season.

Posted by: kaasmaster | November 9, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse

Maybe one of you diehard Portis lovers can explain to the rest of us why an old running back who knows how to block is so indispensable? Jeez, how hard is it to chip a lineman before going out for a screen pass. How complicated is it to learn how to stay in and pick up a blitzing LB?

We've all read and heard what's on CP's mind. If he is our smartest and toughest running back, God help us.


Posted by: NYPDee | November 9, 2010 6:43 PM | Report abu
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Maybe you could save all the fans here who actually know the game some time and get off your lazy ass, look at game tape and maybe a light bulb will go off for ya. Somehow I doubt it though.

Posted by: skins91r | November 9, 2010 7:04 PM | Report abuse

Maybe one of you diehard Portis lovers can explain to the rest of us why an old running back who knows how to block is so indispensable? Jeez, how hard is it to chip a lineman before going out for a screen pass. How complicated is it to learn how to stay in and pick up a blitzing LB?

We've all read and heard what's on CP's mind. If he is our smartest and toughest running back, God help us.


Posted by: NYPDee |

Oh, I think Tony Uh Oh and the Girls would disagree. CP is still, bt far, the best back on this team. Now, can he carry the load by himself again? Not sure about that. It all starts up front. The Chargers said LT was done too.

There's no denying the how tough and smart a player he is. Even St Joe will testify to that.

Yes he's reaching the end but show the dude the respect he deserves as the only weapon on this offense for years.

Posted by: dcwun | November 9, 2010 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Maybe one of you diehard Portis lovers can explain to the rest of us why an old running back who knows how to block is so indispensable? Jeez, how hard is it to chip a lineman before going out for a screen pass. How complicated is it to learn how to stay in and pick up a blitzing LB?

We've all read and heard what's on CP's mind. If he is our smartest and toughest running back, God help us.

Posted by: NYPDee | November 9, 2010 6:43 PM | Report abuse
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Have you actually watched the Redskins play during the last 7 seasons? He's a monster in his blocking role - way better than nearly everyone. Watch some of the pathetic efforts other running backs make at chipping. Portis doesn't really chip - he typically launches himself into a full, square on block. And anyway, in my opinion, he's still by far the most talented RB we have, if he can get healthly. Him splitting carries w/ Torian and in on passing downs will go a long way towards improving this offense, in my opinion.

Posted by: skinsfan713 | November 9, 2010 7:06 PM | Report abuse

I, for one, am encouraged by the return on Clinton. I still remember the new years's eve game against Philly to earn the playoffs. Anyway, we need Clinton to block for Donovan! Look: We need to go 6 and 2 over the next eight games to get into the mix. I KNOW Donovan will be trying out for other teams during this time but I DONT CARE! This is a the second season. Anything can happen. Donovan needs more P RO T E C T I O N!

Posted by: scollins | November 9, 2010 7:08 PM | Report abuse

Maybe one of you diehard Portis lovers can explain to the rest of us why an old running back who knows how to block is so indispensable? Jeez, how hard is it to chip a lineman before going out for a screen pass. How complicated is it to learn how to stay in and pick up a blitzing LB?

We've all read and heard what's on CP's mind. If he is our smartest and toughest running back, God help us.

Posted by: NYPDee | November 9, 2010 6:43 PM

Do you even WATCH the games?

Part of the reason why McNabb has played poorly the past two weeks is because of the pressure coming up the middle that Portis was expert at detecting and stopping.

He's probably lost a step and his days as a feature back are over, but no other player in our backfield can compare to Portis when it comes to making the correct blitz pick-up read and then knocking that guys teeth out.

And per your question about how hard it is? Ask McNabb and Grossman how the other RB's are doing...

And I am not a huge Portis fan, but I do respect his ability to protect the QB.

Posted by: edvar | November 9, 2010 7:11 PM | Report abuse

Jeez, how hard is it to chip a lineman before going out for a screen pass. How complicated is it to learn how to stay in and pick up a blitzing LB?

Posted by: NYPDee | November 9, 2010 6:43 PM
If it were so easy, then more backs would be good at it. First you have to decide weather to go out on your pass route or stay in to block, so you have to be able to recognize if a blitz is coming or not. Second, you have to be able to recognize where the blitz is coming from AND how the O-line is going to react, so that you can get in front of the guy who is going to be coming in free. Third, you have to have good blocking techniqe AND the willingness to lay your body on the line in order to be able to stop a guy in his tracks who's running full speed at you and is most likely bigger than you. These skills in combination are not easy, and should not be underrated. Clinton Portis excells at them.

Posted by: kaasmaster | November 9, 2010 7:15 PM | Report abuse

And the colored girls go "Doo do doo do doo do do doo...

Posted by: obsean1 | November 9, 2010 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Since a few of you commented on Portis and his future, I'll repost my ZEKE'S UNIQUE PERSPECTIVES which covers Portis's situation.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 9, 2010 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Gee, Did we gang up on NYPDee enough?

Posted by: kaasmaster | November 9, 2010 7:22 PM | Report abuse

ZEKE’S UNIQUE PERSPECTIVES brought to you by the fine people at Yahoo!

Clinton Portis is done as a #1 RB. He showed little in 2009, and he wasn’t burning up the place in 2010 before his injury. Many RBs hit the wall at age 30, Portis hits that number next Sept 1.

Occasionally, a Tomlinson turns back the clock or a Thomas Jones ignores the calendar and keeps on churning. More often, you get Shaun Alexander. A beast at age 28, he tiptoed out of football at 31.

I’d like to highlight life starting at 30 from another perspective. Kevin Faulk. From age 30-33, he averaged 700 yards and 4 TDs a year. 55% of those yards came as a pass catcher. He averaged 8yds/catch and 5yds/carry, with about 45 catches and 60 runs per season, just over 100 touches. Portis had 133 touches in 2009 before his concussion, 53 so far in 2010. Of those 186 touches, only 13 were pass receptions.

Faulk is the prototype 3rd down back, used mostly in passing situations. There is a lot to being an effective 3rd down back; Portis would need to rethink and refocus his skill set for it. One critical area where Portis is already very effectively is in pass protection.

Faulk was never a #1 RB, his career looks similar before and after age 30. Faulk gets about $3mil/year and is probably overpaid. He is now 34 and on IR.

Portis was a top RB getting top money. If he wants to continue to play in the NFL, he will need to find a new role -- he isn’t who he used to be. It is a huge change in mindset, going from being ‘the guy’ to being a role player. Some RBs have a nice second act, most don’t.

Portis has a reason to consider a 2nd life as a 3rd down back that most guys don’t. The Hall of Fame. He has a coach that can put together a playoff team. Postseason success is not on CP’s resume, but it is on the minds of HOF voters. Portis is high on several all-time lists, but not high enough. He is #48 in yards from scrimmage. There are no recent HOF additions below him on that list. Add a Faulk-esque 2,700 yds, and Portis is in the hunt, top 25-ish. Another 1,300 rushing yards gets him to the fringe of elected/ electable players. 16 more TDs gets him to 96. All the eligible guys with 100 TDs are in the HOF or getting serious current consideration. Ricky Watters, with 91 TDs, isn’t getting considered.

So why do I bring this up now? Now is the time Portis should be seriously considering this. It is his turning point. If he wants the 3rd down back role, he can be very effective. But … is he studying pass patterns? Working on his hands? Watching film on good 3rd down backs to pick up tips? Calling Kevin Faulk?

Portis will need to decide soon which direction he wants to take his career. As a role player, he could be valuable here or elsewhere. If he wants to be #1, he won’t be of much use and he’ll be asked to tiptoe away … unless he gets kicked to the curb.

ZEKE’S UNIQUE PERSPECTIVES brought to you by the fine people at Yahoo!

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 9, 2010 7:24 PM | Report abuse

Him splitting carries w/ Torian and in on passing downs will go a long way towards improving this offense, in my opinion.
Posted by: skinsfan713

I don't disagree with that. If you reread my post, my point is really that it's sad none of these other young backs can learn a basic skill. Blocking is required of every NFL back. Why can't K. Williams learn it?

And yes, I have watched almost every game of CP's Skins career, and didn't doubt his toughness in '05 when Gibbs ran him to death. But there comes a time when old running backs need to go, and young backs need to step up.

And btw, skins91r, for someone who likes to call others lazy, your response was the laziest I've read today. You didn't explain your side, and added nothing to the discussion.


Posted by: NYPDee | November 9, 2010 7:30 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 9, 2010

I think we forget the player he was in the first half of 08. He was one of the leading candidates for MVP at the time. The line crumbled and thus started his decline the 2nd half of 08 and lead in to the debacle in 09.

It starts up front. I'm not fully convinced that he's totally done yet until I see him behind something that resembles a NFL O-Line. LT is the perfect example, even though he's running behind arguably the best O-Line in the league.

Posted by: dcwun | November 9, 2010 7:39 PM | Report abuse

If it were so easy, then more backs would be good at it. First you have to decide weather to go out on your pass route or stay in to block, so you have to be able to recognize if a blitz is coming or not. Second, you have to be able to recognize where the blitz is coming from AND how the O-line is going to react, so that you can get in front of the guy who is going to be coming in free. Third, you have to have good blocking techniqe AND the willingness to lay your body on the line in order to be able to stop a guy in his tracks who's running full speed at you and is most likely bigger than you. These skills in combination are not easy, and should not be underrated. Clinton Portis excells at them.

Posted by: kaasmaster

As you can probably tell, I agree with you. He is very good at blitz pickups -- and that is a very valuable trait in a 3rd down RB.

Portis probably has good enough hands. I think he needs to work on his concentration, route running, his mindset and awareness. 3rd down backs need to have a great feel for getting 1st downs. Portis hasn't done much of that.

Having such a good pass blocker for a 3rd down back is a big dilemma for a defense. He can neutralize a blitz or be a dangerous receiver. Defense has to account for both.

Donovan threw to his RBs in philly, Portis would be more dangerous than KWilliams. Another fit.

Lastly, I do think the time to decide is now. Not the offseason. Shanahan needs to see if any of his younger RBs (mostly Torain or Davis) can become a #1 back. He also needs to see if Portis can adapt. Big advantage to this club if Shanahan gets these answers in the next 3 months instead of the midpoint of next season.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 9, 2010 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Gee, Did we gang up on NYPDee enough?


Posted by: kaasmaster |

He definately deserved it....

Posted by: dcwun | November 9, 2010 7:42 PM | Report abuse

And btw, skins91r, for someone who likes to call others lazy, your response was the laziest I've read today. You didn't explain your side, and added nothing to the discussion.


Posted by: NYPDee | November 9, 2010 7:30

Came back fighting.....

Posted by: dcwun | November 9, 2010 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Pretty funny. I was going to point out the "obvious to everyone except morons" to NYPDee but it looks like multiple posters took care of the light work.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 9, 2010 7:52 PM | Report abuse

LT is the perfect example, even though he's running behind arguably the best O-Line in the league.


Cedric Benson is another guy who suddenly 'got good' once he had the chance to perform behind the quality line the bengals feature.

And speaking of backs who could use a 'new situation,' if the pokes decide to 're-build,' which player would you pull the truck up to take away?:

--Marion Barber

--Tashard Choice

--Felix Jones

--Sam Hurd


The 'boys will feature F Jones moving forward.

And so, I'm wondering how Marion Barber would look in a redskin backfield next year.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | November 9, 2010 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Gee, Did we gang up on NYPDee enough?


Posted by: kaasmaster |

This is the closest to unison I have seen on this blog - after we all piled on the Cowtards, that is..

F-DALLAS!

Posted by: edvar | November 9, 2010 8:00 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 9, 2010 7:40 PM

I believe he can adapt his skills, but if he doesn't adapt his salary it will be a moot point. He won't be a Redskin next year if he wants the 8.25 million that he's contracted for. I'm hoping he will agree to a major paycut.

Posted by: kaasmaster | November 9, 2010 8:01 PM | Report abuse

BTW Zeke,

I have to pick on you for one thing.

Did you really need to make a post to inform us that you were going to make a post?

Posted by: kaasmaster | November 9, 2010 8:10 PM | Report abuse

What a bunch of houligans. Dude gave his opinion, was a bit off and you guys run him off and then pat yourself on the back.

Portis has been the best blocking back in the NFL (bar none) but he's hardly the protypical 3rd down back. In his prime he was average at best coming out of the backfield and his days of 15-20 carries a day are in the past.

I'll be happy to have him back but for only his pass pro and depth.

He doesn't have a Thomas Jone/Curtis Martin/LT type of after 30 career in him.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 9, 2010 8:14 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 9, 2010 7:40 PM

I believe he can adapt his skills, but if he doesn't adapt his salary it will be a moot point. He won't be a Redskin next year if he wants the 8.25 million that he's contracted for. I'm hoping he will agree to a major paycut.

Posted by: kaasmaster

He's not getting $8mil next year no matter what happens. Its really up to CP. You and I are the same page. He's got work to do if he wants a career.

dcwun thinks he can pull an LaDanian. I don't. Portis struggled to finish in '08 -- played half the games in '09 and half so far this year.

fwiw, LT has cooled off -- we'll see if its an aberration or reality soon enough. In his first 5 games, his worst game avg was 4.67yds/carry each game and his overall avg was well above 5 yds. The last 3, his best is 3.67 yds/carry and he's at about 3.4 in those 3 games.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 9, 2010 8:16 PM | Report abuse

--Marion Barber

--Tashard Choice

--Felix Jones

--Sam Hurd


The 'boys will feature F Jones moving forward.

And so, I'm wondering how Marion Barber would look in a redskin backfield next year.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | November 9, 2010 7:59 PM |

Give me Tashard Choice all day. The rest of those idiots have been Cowholes too long and are too ingrained with the smell of shame and underachieving.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 9, 2010 8:17 PM | Report abuse

What a bunch of houligans. Dude gave his opinion, was a bit off and you guys run him off and then pat yourself on the back.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 9, 2010 8:14 PM

They're rockin', aren't they? Now, I want to see 'em take on someone of stature and run him off. I want to see them run Jason Reid back to Los Angeles. Come on, hooligans, show us what you're made of.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 9, 2010 8:21 PM | Report abuse

Sorry if the NY in my handle makes so many people crap their pants. Just because I live in NY doesn't mean I'm a Giant's troll. I've hated the Giants longer than many of you have been alive. My point, again, was that CP is through physically. It's time for the youngsters to step up. Thank you to Kaas and Z for taking the time to respond like adults.

My original post was really intended for the guy earlier who said that anyone who isn't in love with Portis is an idiot and should shut up. I don't love Portis, and I ain't shutting up.

I admit I worded it in a way that I thought would wake people up. Scamp was turning this thing into Haiku Tuesday, fcol. And he's the one who likes to call other people gay?

Posted by: NYPDee | November 9, 2010 8:24 PM | Report abuse

Who would you take?

Andrew Luck

Ryan Mallett

Jake Locker

Cam Newton (he should stay in school, but he won't)

Rick Stanzi

Christian Ponder


If the worthless bills snag Luck, ya' gotta hope Shanallen takes a hard long look at Mallett.

Mallett has the starts, arm, and knowledge of an NFL type system to start immediately.

This guy is not Sam Bradford.

He's better.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | November 9, 2010 8:26 PM | Report abuse

What a bunch of houligans. Dude gave his opinion, was a bit off and you guys run him off and then pat yourself on the back.


Posted by: Diesel44 | November 9, 2010 8:14 PM

YOU of all people have an issue with this?

Gag...

Posted by: edvar | November 9, 2010 8:32 PM | Report abuse

And speaking of backs who could use a 'new situation,' if the pokes decide to 're-build,' which player would you pull the truck up to take away?:

--Marion Barber

--Tashard Choice

--Felix Jones

--Sam Hurd


The 'boys will feature F Jones moving forward.

And so, I'm wondering how Marion Barber would look in a redskin backfield next year.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | November 9, 2010

None of them. My hatred for everything Dallas runs too deep.

Posted by: dcwun | November 9, 2010 8:34 PM | Report abuse

WTF are some of ya'll talkin' about? The Skins couldn't rebuild an offensiev line in one offseason with 5 picks and 15 holes!

Posted by: rickyroge | November 9, 2010 8:36 PM | Report abuse

This guy is not Sam Bradford.

He's better.

Posted by: gimmesummoe

No freakin' way. Sam Bradford is Matt Ryan-esque. Mallett doesn't display half the poise that Bradford did in college. Not even close.....

Posted by: dcwun | November 9, 2010 8:41 PM | Report abuse

Haiku in response to RedDMV's earlier goat love

Caught mounting a goat
It's not bestiality
It's just a carcass.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 9, 2010 8:44 PM | Report abuse

I admit I worded it in a way that I thought would wake people up. Scamp was turning this thing into Haiku Tuesday, fcol. And he's the one who likes to call other people gay?

Posted by: NYPDee | November 9, 2010 8:24 PM |

I believe I referred to you as a moron, but you can be gay, too, if you want. You obviously haven't been around here too long. The Haiku challange goes back years on this blog and was an attempt at jibba jabba as opposed to the senseless droning on about McNabb.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 9, 2010 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Gay?

Limerick Tuesday..

There once was a fellow O'Doole
Who found little red spots in his stool
His Doctor a cynic
said Get out of me clinic,
And wipe off that lipstick you fool!

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 9, 2010 9:04 PM | Report abuse

The Haiku challange goes back years on this blog and was an attempt at jibba jabba as opposed to the senseless droning on about McNabb.
Posted by: scampbell1975

Gotcha. Only been commenting on here about six months. Jibba Jabba beats Droning On. Got it.

Posted by: NYPDee | November 9, 2010 9:11 PM | Report abuse

There once was a tard named DEE
It always burned when he'd pee
He went to the doc
to took a look at his c0ck
Who said there is nothing for him to see

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 9, 2010 9:13 PM | Report abuse

Sorry if the NY in my handle makes so many people crap their pants.

Posted by: NYPDee | November 9, 2010 8:24 PM

We've got a couple of long-time bloggers who live in NY, so you're in good company: Chris Larry, jm220.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 9, 2010 9:19 PM | Report abuse

Haikus are not gay
I just watched my favorite show
I am a Glee fan

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 9, 2010 9:20 PM | Report abuse

Limericks it is now, is it?

"There once was a man from Nantucket, whose shween was so long he could suck it..."

Anyone who wants the rest, you have to prove you're still awake. And no Googling!

Posted by: NYPDee | November 9, 2010 9:23 PM | Report abuse

Gotcha. Only been commenting on here about six months. Jibba Jabba beats Droning On. Got it.


Posted by: NYPDee | November 9, 2010 9:11 PM

No prob, now you've been initiated.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 9, 2010 9:27 PM | Report abuse

A horrible wreck
The Mayhem is beautiful
Football in Dallas

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 9, 2010 9:29 PM | Report abuse

Candlelight dinner

Pot roast with mash potatoes

She asks for gravy

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 9, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

There once was a fellow O'Doole
Who found little red spots in his stool
His Doctor a cynic
said Get out of me clinic,
And wipe off that lipstick you fool!

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 9, 2010 9:04 PM

That one doesn't work very well when you try to make it gay. I've always heard it with the second line ending in "on his tool".

Posted by: kaasmaster | November 9, 2010 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Is the gravy fresh

She gets scared when it's lumpy

I'll have clam chowder

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 9, 2010 9:43 PM | Report abuse

Boiled bag of boners
What Jerry Jones likes to hire
I hope they all die

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 9, 2010 3:47 PM |

That's beautiful, Scamp. You've definitely got a way with words. This is one of the most powerful poems I have ever read. It brought a tear to my cheek.

Posted by: Thinker_ | November 9, 2010 9:49 PM | Report abuse

There once was a coach named Shanny

Whose head was as red as his fanny

He started on Haynesworth and then Devin Thomas

And now we all think he's out of his freakin' mind after he put Rex Grossman in the game and benched McNabb.

The guy is nuts.

Posted by: Thinker_ | November 9, 2010 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Bacon eggs and toast

The breakfast of champions

While being sucked on

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 9, 2010 10:05 PM | Report abuse

I am a black girl and I met a white guy on __...Black White Meet . com...___ recently. What's your idea about interracial marriage? Black White Meet . C om is a dating club for interracial singles to have fun together. Interracial is not a problem here, but a great merit to cherish! I like this club, please show me your idea here.

Posted by: abulaw | November 9, 2010 10:06 PM | Report abuse

BTW Zeke,

I have to pick on you for one thing.

Did you really need to make a post to inform us that you were going to make a post?

Posted by: kaasmaster

a courtesy to people who might have already seen it ... would have put it in the header, but I was out of characters ...

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 9, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse

Here's my "playing devil's advocate" answer. Because he's a leader, extremely experienced, and a team player. That all leads to a guy that can help you groom the next franchise quarterback. Hard to beat his qualifications for that. He's seen it all.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 9, 2010 6:14 PM

Rare late-night...and I'm sure much anticipated...post from PlayAction...but a BIG devil's advocate cosign.

Go Caps! (so hard to watch this crap in November though...wish Monday night would get here!)

Posted by: PlayAction | November 9, 2010 10:12 PM | Report abuse

The Cowpukes are toast
Jerry lookes like walking dead
How the fans will cry.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 9, 2010 10:19 PM | Report abuse

He started on Haynesworth and then Devin Thomas

The guy is nuts.

Posted by: Thinker_ | November 9, 2010 9:52 PM

Nutty like a fox! Two for two so far...we'll see how number three works out...maybe Shanny cherishes a win over a division opponent more than a win over the Detroit Lions...as well as the final eight games. I'm betting on coach over ANYONE one here...even me...and beep-beep...oh and hessone.

Posted by: PlayAction | November 9, 2010 10:23 PM | Report abuse

who is abulaw

she wants cream in the coffee

I take two sugars

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 9, 2010 10:23 PM | Report abuse

Miles from Austin's drops
A tight face grows tighter still
The death star extinguished

Posted by: Pepper5 | November 9, 2010 10:23 PM | Report abuse

Off topic question...

Where" were you for the Michael Jordan "Flu Game?

Until Lebron has one of those...

Posted by: rickyroge | November 9, 2010 10:23 PM | Report abuse

Tashard not the Choice
I guess Wade wasn't either
America's Team

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 9, 2010 10:27 PM | Report abuse

Off topic question...

Where" were you for the Michael Jordan "Flu Game?

Until Lebron has one of those...

Posted by: rickyroge | November 9, 2010 10:23 PM | Report abuse

I watched that at my grandfather's house.

Jordan will always be the greatest.

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 9, 2010 10:31 PM | Report abuse

Who would you take?

Andrew Luck
Ryan Mallett
Jake Locker
Cam Newton (he should stay in school, but he won't)
Rick Stanzi
Christian Ponder

If the worthless bills snag Luck, ya' gotta hope Shanallen takes a hard long look at Mallett.
Mallett has the starts, arm, and knowledge of an NFL type system to start immediately.
This guy is not Sam Bradford.
He's better.
Posted by: gimmesummoe
~~~
If we take anyone off your list(if we get lucky enough to be in the position to draft them, that is), I'm taking Luck.

However, I would like to add Mizzou's Blaine Gabbert to your list as I think he's going to play his way into the 1st or 2nd round.I would also like to add the Tarheel's T.J. Yates, I like this kid, love his arm and his poise.
~~~
Here are their measurables & yr
Mallett-6'7,238,Jr
Luck-6'4,235-Jr
Locker, 6'4,225-Sr
Ponder-6'2,219-Sr
Gabbert-6'5,235-Jr
Newton-6'6,250-Jr
Stanzi-6'4,230-Sr
Yates-6'4,220-Sr

One cool thing is everyone has NFL size. In fact, I think Mallett would be even better if he played at about 222lbs(His footwork is lumbering & deliberate, like Derek Anderson unfortunately).
-Luck is way more athletic than I thought he was, with a NICE arm and good decision-making.
-So is Gabbert and he looks like he has stronger arm than Luck.
-Newton is like Vince Young,excellent runner, raw passer(and Gimmesome-you're right-he REALLY needs to stay in school, but the controversy surrounding him may make him leave).
-I like Stanzi, I really do-he's Pro-ready, experienced, live-armed and competitive- I've watched him have poor, atrocious first halves of games and fire the ball in the second half w/o any fear.
-Ponder-I just don't like him, sorry. Don't like his arm-strength,Ponder doesn't really throw a tight spiral.
-Locker is the wildcard-the Pros keep saying he's a top-five draft pick. I would agree...2 years ago. He DID look like the second coming of Favre, fearless, gunslinger and even more athletic. Now, only his measurable will propel him to top pick status-He's having a horrible year.
-Yates is my personal favorite, I don't know what the Pros think about him yet, but he's a senior, nice arm, poised...I just like the kid.

Depending on what the Juniors do, It could be one-helluva draft for QBs-they can't ALL go in the 1st or 2nd round....or can they?

R.I. Nation check them out and let me know what you think. Remember, unless we collapse the 2nd half of the season, we're not going to have a chance at the top picks, but we might get a great consolation prize w/another.

However....

Posted by: ArmchairGM | November 9, 2010 11:20 PM | Report abuse

Who would you take?

Andrew Luck

Ryan Mallett

Jake Locker

Cam Newton (he should stay in school, but he won't)

Rick Stanzi

Christian Ponder

Posted by: gimmesummoe | November 9, 2010 8:26 PM

Here's how I rank the QBs..

1, Luck- will go #1 overall
2. Mallett
3. Locker- although this year has been a disaster even though he's on a terrible team. (he might be in our wheel house pick 15-20)
4. Ponder- 2nd rd type, might sneak into the end of RD 1
5. Pat Devlin
6. Blaine Gabbert
7. Cam Newton
8. Ricky Stanzi
9. Nick Foles
10. Nathan Enderle

I wouldn't go anywhere near Cam Newton and I've seen the majority of his games this year. He needs to go back to school (so does Pryor) and become more of a threat with their arms.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 9, 2010 11:30 PM | Report abuse

And speaking of backs who could use a 'new situation,' if the pokes decide to 're-build,' which player would you pull the truck up to take away?:

--Marion Barber

--Tashard Choice

--Felix Jones

--Sam Hurd

The 'boys will feature F Jones moving forward.

And so, I'm wondering how Marion Barber would look in a redskin backfield next year.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | November 9, 2010 \

--Marion Barber- NO, we don't need someone who celebrates every 3 YD gain.

--Tashard Choice- He's the best of the bunch but Barber has the contract and Jones has the draft status.

--Felix Jones- He's not going anywhere, JJ drafted him because he's a razorback and because he has straight line speed. He passed on CJ who has everything.

--Sam Hurd- He's a WR/Special teamer. He'd be a nice 4th or 5th WR.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 9, 2010 11:42 PM | Report abuse

Newton's this year Locker. If he stays in college, he could hurt himself financially. If he comes out now, he'll be a high draft choice and could work on his skills while a pro. He's raw but I think he can play in certain game situations by adding the element of run or pass. I think he could be a solid play for a team that don't have too many holes to fill.

Posted by: TWISI | November 9, 2010 11:52 PM | Report abuse

....We really need to be looking at O-linemen.
Check Out...
Anthony Castonzo,Boston College, 6'7,295-OT
Gabe Carimi, Wisconsin,6'7,325-OT
Nate Potter, Boise St.,6'6,290-OT
Derek Sherod, Miss.St.,6'6,305-OT

John Moffitt, Wisconsin,6'5,323-OG
Rodney Hudson,Fl.State,6'2,283-OG
Marcus Cannon,TCU,6'5,350-OG
Clint Boling, Georgia,6'4, 297-OG

Stefen Wisniewski,Penn St.,6'3,302 C/G
Mike Pouncey, Florida, 6'4,310 C/G
Kristofer O'Dowd,USC,6'5,300 G/C

Check em' out-some of these had BETTER be on our team next year. I'm very partial to Wisconsin linemen, but Wisniewski has nice bloodlines (Penn ST., STEVE Wisniewski is his uncle). Boise St has a solid O-line w/ Potter as the anchor. The Florida St. kid is highly rated, but he is small(ideal for Shanahan perhaps?).Castonzo is the highest rated prospect, typical hard-nosed B.C.mauler.

If anyone has a suggestion, let me know, I'm always eager to find the gems.

Posted by: ArmchairGM | November 9, 2010 11:54 PM | Report abuse

The real run on the cowboys will be on their Dline. I think they have Spear, Hatcher, Bowen all as FA. All would be solid choices for 3-4 teams.

Posted by: TWISI | November 9, 2010 11:58 PM | Report abuse

I wouldn't go anywhere near Cam Newton and I've seen the majority of his games this year. He needs to go back to school (so does Pryor) and become more of a threat with their arms.


Posted by: Diesel44
~~~
Meeeeeee Neither. Newton REALLLY needs to stay in school....w/o cheating :-)

Posted by: ArmchairGM | November 9, 2010 11:59 PM | Report abuse

Newton's this year Locker. If he stays in college, he could hurt himself financially. If he comes out now, he'll be a high draft choice and could work on his skills while a pro. He's raw but I think he can play in certain game situations by adding the element of run or pass. I think he could be a solid play for a team that don't have too many holes to fill.

Posted by: TWISI
~~~
Shoot, if he stays in college, Auburn may wind up forfeiting some of these games 2 years down the road.
~~~
I like Barber, frankly, the Cowboys are stupid. They just up and declared he couldn't break a big one, but 1. He and Maroney did it at Minnesota and 2. he was one of the most unpleasant RBs to tackle, still is.
Plus, he should be fresh, the Cowboys have been goofing off with the RB depth chart for a few years, so he doesn't have the wear and tear on him that one might expect considering his running style.

If Barber was the featured back those numbskulls wouldn't be 1-7.

Ooops, yes they would, Jerry Jones is just as bad as D.Snyder as far as not fortifying the O-line.

Dez Bryant was a luxury pick for a team that didn't have the luxury of picking him. They already had R.Williams, Austin and Crayton before the trade. Along with Witten and Bennett, the need was for O-linemen.

Posted by: ArmchairGM | November 10, 2010 12:11 AM | Report abuse

Call me sentimental but I'd like to see Portis top 10,000 yards as a Redskin.

He's laid it on the line for Redskin teams that had no shot at the postseason and you could argue that the best of CP was wasted pre 2005-06. He's got a shot to pass 2 Giants (Otis Anderson and Tiki Barber) by the end of next season and I hope he does it.

Posted by: elfreako | November 10, 2010 12:41 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: elfreako | November 10, 2010 12:41 AM

He needs a 109 YDs. I hope he does it too. His injury was gruesome (torn from the bone) and he's coming back at the earliest possible recommendation. No doubt due to his work ethic, I just hope he's 100%.

We could use his pass blocking and his addition to the stable. Torain is coming off an injury too.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 10, 2010 1:16 AM | Report abuse

Holy sh*t...did anyone else see this over at the Bog? Of all people, John f-ing Feinstein pulling the race card:


"The situation with Shanahan and McNabb has gotten completely out of control," Feinstein says, above. "Shanahan simply won't say 'I made a mistake. I got mad at Donovan, I put Rex Grossman in the game and it was a mistake.' Instead, the first spin is that he doesn't know the terminology of the two-minute offense, i.e. he's stupid. The next day, it's, well, his cardiovascular, he's out of shape, i.e. he's fat. Now, he's leaking to Chris Mortensen -- who is culpable in this, too, because I guarantee he didn't call Donovan McNabb for a response -- that we had to cut the playbook in half because of McNabb.

"I think there's racial coding going on here, and it's my belief that that kind of behavior is worth firing a coach for. Dan Snyder's not gonna do it, but I think it's out of control."


Racial coding? Are you f-ing kidding me? Was Shanahan's handling of the situation clumsy as f*ck? Yes. Idiotic? Yes. But RACIST? C'mon son...certainly you don't believe that.

Geez...I expect Whitlock to make his about race. Or Wilbon. Or RedDMV. But Feinstein? Just goes to show there really is no limit to his d-baggery...

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 10, 2010 5:26 AM | Report abuse

Five questions facing the Redskins this week, 11/10/10
By: John Keim
Examiner Staff Writer
11/10/10 3:45 AM EST

1. What do they lose without Brandon Banks? Field position. For an offense that struggles, he basically would get them a first down every time he touched the ball. Also, vs. Philadelphia in the first meeting, he had long returns on punts that others would not have fielded or attempted to return. If this offense is forced to drive long distances, it will suffer. It’s not like Banks’ 13.8-yard punt return average is built on a couple runs. Of his 17 returns, 10 have been for 16 yards or more.

2. How healthy is the backfield? The Redskins need Ryan Torain or Clinton Portis to play Monday night. At this point, Torain is much more likely than Portis. In the first game, both backs had success, though Portis left with a groin injury. Torain excelled at cutting back, getting help from the tight ends. But Torain is not consistent in protection, nor is rookie Keiland Williams. And that could be a factor Monday.

3. Can they stop Michael Vick? They had to knock him out of the first game for that to happen. Vick’s presence changes what they can do defensively. They have to honor his legs but if you use a safety too often to spy on him, it sets up deep passes to DeSean Jackson. Play too much man coverage and it opens up running lanes. The Redskins will have to play patient and excel in the red zone. Vick will make plays. Also note: Vick has thrown 154 straight passes without an interception.

4. Will Donovan McNabb start to get the offense? What better way to open the second half of the season, and after a benching no less, than against the team that traded you. But what would help more is a return to better health. McNabb has been affected on some of his throws by his injured hamstrings as he failed to use his lower body on a couple passes. It made a huge difference. McNabb did not play well vs. Philly in the first game and if the Redskins have any hope for the postseason, he needs a good game.

5. Will the line be improved? The pass protection likely will remain an issue until Portis returns. But there’s no doubt the line can block better — they’ve struggled on the left side with stunts and that must change. Will it? They also need to do a better job of limiting tackles from penetrating on the stretch runs. The backs are having to cut too deep to be consistent.

Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/sports/blogs/redskins-confidential/Five-questions-facing-the-Redskins-this-week-111010-107019943.html#ixzz14sIp84Qh

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 10, 2010 5:40 AM | Report abuse

I wish everyone would stick with the subject of the Redskins. Were not always going to agree,but, its a great forum to express our opinions. Please, keep the "Trash Taking" out of of it. We all have some great ideas,so,let stay with them. We don't all have to all to agree. I more than anyone with love to go back too the glory days. With or without the current players we have. I know there have somethings that not everyone has agrees with me, but, thats ok. I just want us too start winnng again. I do know we need youth.. Go Skins!

Posted by: eztiger44 | November 10, 2010 5:45 AM | Report abuse

Sinorice Moss...Can he make us better?

Posted by: fat_back | November 10, 2010 6:09 AM | Report abuse

Probability just raised from .87 to 1.0 that a new post is up about our favorite subject: statistics!

beep-beep

Posted by: beep-beep | November 10, 2010 6:24 AM | Report abuse

Sinorice Moss...Can he make us better?

Posted by: fat_back | November 10, 2010 6:09 AM


No. He's a smaller and worse version of his brother. And that's not even taking into account that he's hurt all the time.

So the more operative question becomes "is he better than Galloway and/or Williams?" To which I say, "maybe".

Can't hurt to kick his tires, but I wouldn't bank on him being anything more than a depth player...

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 10, 2010 6:26 AM | Report abuse

Wow, Feinstein lost me with that one...totally irresponsible...he's not in a downward spiral, he's free falling.

Posted by: Pepper5 | November 10, 2010 8:13 AM | Report abuse

What i see this year most plays the RB been making there own path.
The Offensive line is terrible!

It's catching up with the Steelers they are going to kill there QB if the line don't improve by Playoffs.

There probley won't be Football next year unless the players lose there spine.

Posted by: shamken | November 10, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse

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