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Four Redskins unable to practice

By Rick Maese

The Redskins did not hold a full-speed practice Wednesday, but four starters were unable to participate in the first session of the week.

According to the team's injury report, guard Artis Hicks (thigh), cornerback Carlos Rogers (hamstring), running back Ryan Torain (hamstring) and safety LaRon Landry (Achilles) sat out Wednesday's practice, which Coach Mike Shanahan said was conducted at half-to-three-quarters speed.

Torain missed the Redskins game against the Eagles, while Hicks and Rogers both spent much of the final quarter on the sidelines, nursing injuries.

According to the report, Redskins tackle Jammal Brown (head), receiver Brandon Banks (knee) and running back Clinton Portis (groin) were limited on Wednesday.

Tennessee also had several players who were unable to practice: receiver Kenny Britt (hamstring), defensive tackle Tony Brown (knee), kicker Rob Bironas (back), quarterback Kerry Collins (calf), defensive back Vincent Fuller (hamstring) and tight end Craig Stevens (knee).

By Rick Maese  | November 17, 2010; 6:16 PM ET
Categories:  Clinton Portis, Ryan Torain  
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Comments

"Jammal Brown (head)"

Yep - that's why we got him cheap!

Posted by: fr3dmars | November 17, 2010 6:41 PM | Report abuse

"...which Coach Mike Shanahan said was conducted at half-to-three-quarters speed."

Which would have been about the same speed played in Philly...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 17, 2010 6:44 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: gimmesummoe | November 17, 2010 4:19 PM |

Dude - 11 cliches in one post! (C below.) Are you angling to snag J Reid's yob?

1. roster purge
2. sniff the Super Bowl
3. competitive football team
4. run for a ring
5. past their prime
6. 'big name'
7. clean house
8. 'win now'
9. road kill
10. road to ... is littered with
11. get in the way

Posted by: ElDrano | November 17, 2010 6:44 PM | Report abuse

Which would have been about the same speed played in Philly...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 17, 2010 6:44 PM |

Which is light years faster than your brain is working given the game were in DC. Actually it were in Landlubber MD.

Posted by: ElDrano | November 17, 2010 6:48 PM | Report abuse

I'm still trying to figure how Dockery went from a serviceable starter to a weekly inctive?? Replaced by the likes of a Kory Lichtenburger with cheese!!

Posted by: iubiquity | November 17, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse

Actually it were in Landlubber MD.

Posted by: ElDrano | November 17, 2010 6:48 PM |

Why it called "Landlubber"? Because it the place where SKins like Portis and Hayney hug the ground. Heh, heh.

Posted by: ElDrano | November 17, 2010 6:52 PM | Report abuse

4 unable to practice....53 unable to play

Posted by: Pepper5 | November 17, 2010 6:53 PM | Report abuse

4 unable to practice....53 unable to play

Posted by: Pepper5 | November 17, 2010 6:53 PM |

Plus at least one unable to coach - the DC.

Posted by: ElDrano | November 17, 2010 6:54 PM | Report abuse

Replaced by the likes of a Kory Lichtenburger with cheese!!

Posted by: iubiquity | November 17, 2010 6:49 PM |

It more like Swiss cheese w/o the burger.

Posted by: ElDrano | November 17, 2010 6:58 PM | Report abuse

However, the coach did note that McNabb's cardio-vascular endurance seems to be improving -- at least so long as everyone else continues to run at half or three-quarters speed.

Posted by: Vic1 | November 17, 2010 7:12 PM | Report abuse

I get, the bloggas are saying if AH would've gotten up, that play would have made the difference. BS. AH is and will always be a target regardless of how he does on the field.

How about blaming the other piss poor performers for that mess too. Start with anyone on defense, coaches and players. Or how about My Way Mike's preparation and game plan.

Posted by: dcwun | November 17, 2010 2:43 PM

I'm embarrassed for you. Really? He QUIT on the play and laid on the field and took a nap. He then said that he got hit by friendly fire (Vonnie Holiday) although replays show no such hit and then said he heard a whistle. ALBERT HAYNESWORTH SYMBOLIZES DAN SNYDER'S TENURE AS AN OWNER AND THAT ONE PLAY SYMBOLIZES ALBERT HAYNESWORTH AS A PLAYER AND A HUMAN BEING. HE'S A FAT POS QUITTER.

BTW. His blocker after standing over him for a few seconds left him there as he napped and blocked AC 2 seconds before Vick threw the ball that Avant caught OUT OF BOUNDS for a TD.

Posts like that put you in pabrain territory.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 17, 2010 7:22 PM | Report abuse

after some time to digest that game. Its clear to me that the Eagles went after Halls side of the field all game long.

vick's TDs and big plays all were on Halls side of the field.

Posted by: alex35332 | November 17, 2010 7:27 PM | Report abuse

after some time to digest that game. Its clear to me that the Eagles went after Halls side of the field all game long.

vick's TDs and big plays all were on Halls side of the field.

Posted by: alex35332 | November 17, 2010 7:27 PM

But, But, But he's our best CB. He wants to be on the other team's #1 WR. This after Keven Walter went for over 150 on him.

Here's the deal.

He has ELITE hands but he can't cover his shadow or tackle his sister. He's the one that F'ed up on the 1st play of the game, not LL.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 17, 2010 7:31 PM | Report abuse

He has ELITE hands but he can't cover his shadow or tackle his sister. He's the one that F'ed up on the 1st play of the game, not LL.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 17, 2010 7:31 PM | Report abuse
________

I missed the beginning of the game (no great loss, as it turned out; didn't even go back and watch part of the 1st quarter that I missed) and only saw the highlight of that play, so I only bring this up as a question, not as a disagreement. Were we in a Tampa-2 on this play? If so, I'd argue that the safety, not the corner, has primary responsibility for that pattern.

Posted by: skinsfan713 | November 17, 2010 7:45 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: gimmesummoe | November 17, 2010 4:19 PM |

Dude - this post sucks pretty bad.

Posted by: ElDrano | November 17, 2010 5:44 PM |

*******************************************
yea cuz these are soooooooooooo much better
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Posted by: gimmesummoe | November 17, 2010 4:19 PM |

Dude - 11 cliches in one post! (C below.) Are you angling to snag J Reid's yob?

1. roster purge
2. sniff the Super Bowl
3. competitive football team
4. run for a ring
5. past their prime
6. 'big name'
7. clean house
8. 'win now'
9. road kill
10. road to ... is littered with
11. get in the way

Posted by: ElDrano | November 17, 2010 6:44 PM | Report abuse

Which would have been about the same speed played in Philly...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 17, 2010 6:44 PM |

Which is light years faster than your brain is working given the game were in DC. Actually it were in Landlubber MD.

Posted by: ElDrano | November 17, 2010 6:48 PM | Report abuse

4 unable to practice....53 unable to play

Posted by: Pepper5 | November 17, 2010 6:53 PM |

Plus at least one unable to coach - the DC.

Posted by: ElDrano | November 17, 2010 6:54 PM | Report abuse

Replaced by the likes of a Kory Lichtenburger with cheese!!

Posted by: iubiquity | November 17, 2010 6:49 PM |

It more like Swiss cheese w/o the burger.

Posted by: ElDrano | November 17, 2010 6:58 PM |
___________________________________________

Quick, can anyone name a meaningful or intelligent contribution by this jackass.....ever. No? Didn't think so. El Drano, making a living off of other peoples work, and doing a terrible job at it.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 17, 2010 7:52 PM | Report abuse

He has ELITE hands but he can't cover his shadow or tackle his sister. He's the one that F'ed up on the 1st play of the game, not LL.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 17, 2010 7:31 PM | Report abuse
________

I missed the beginning of the game (no great loss, as it turned out; didn't even go back and watch part of the 1st quarter that I missed) and only saw the highlight of that play, so I only bring this up as a question, not as a disagreement. Were we in a Tampa-2 on this play? If so, I'd argue that the safety, not the corner, has primary responsibility for that pattern.

Posted by: skinsfan713 | November 17, 2010 7:45 PM

You are correct, but Hall was supposed to hit De J. at the line and let Laron get into coverage. Instead, Hall gave Jackson a free release and he blew by Laron.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 17, 2010 7:54 PM | Report abuse

Shanny "the mastermind" is sure to have "still injured" Portis and "still recovering" Torain as the only active running backs this sunday. Mike Sellers will probably take ALL the snaps at RB after the first series because Portis and Torain will not be able to perform.

Posted by: kingpenn1 | November 17, 2010 8:20 PM | Report abuse

The CB is suppose to press the WR at the line and carry him 10-15 Yds. Instead Dhall didn't and Djax had a free release and ran right by LL. He came close to making a play but NOBODY alive (RIP ST21) is running with a full speed Djax and a guy like Vick that threw it 60 YDs on a rope.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 17, 2010 8:20 PM | Report abuse

Carolina lost RB D. Williams for the season, they may make another run at skins practice squad RB, James Davis

Posted by: kingpenn1 | November 17, 2010 8:25 PM | Report abuse

You are correct, but Hall was supposed to hit De J. at the line and let Laron get into coverage. Instead, Hall gave Jackson a free release and he blew by Laron.

Posted by: scampbell1975

That is part of it. LaRon wasn't going back nearly quickly enough, which is on him. On the replay, LaRon is at the 47 yard line while djax is at the 48. So Landry is a yard deeper. djax catches it at the 35, Landry is at the 37. Meaning djax ran 13 yards while Landry covered 10.

Even if jackson is faster, he's not 30% faster. Landry had position early, and then misplayed it.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 17, 2010 8:30 PM | Report abuse

Carolina lost RB D. Williams for the season, they may make another run at skins practice squad RB, James Davis

Posted by: kingpenn1 | November 17, 2010 8:25 PM

After Monday's game they might not have to run at him. A slow saunter might be enough to get him away from the Redskins.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 17, 2010 8:32 PM | Report abuse

vick's TDs and big plays all were on Halls side of the field.

Posted by: alex35332

Hope this doesn't come as a surprise to too many people. Guy blows in single coverage. Always has.

Posted by: NickBarking | November 17, 2010 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Even if jackson is faster, he's not 30% faster. Landry had position early, and then misplayed it.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 17, 2010 8:30 PM

Jackson had a head of steam that he wouldn't have had if Hall had done his job. Landry was running back and sideways. Jackson was 30% faster under those conditions. He never had a chance after Hall failed on his assignment.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 17, 2010 8:37 PM | Report abuse

The skins played like they were scared, tackled ( or lack of) like they were scared, blocked like they were scared, covered like they were scared, couldn't catch because they were scared. I'll stop dancing around the subject and just say that THEY WERE SCARED.

Posted by: kingpenn1 | November 17, 2010 8:43 PM | Report abuse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJXihvi3znc

If you can stomach it, here's the replay. Hall whiffs, Djax gets a full head of steam, ORAKPO IS HELD, Djax moonwalks in from the 15.

As a Bonus you get to see Dhall rip his blocker to the gound on the XP eliminating our best offensive player from getting to return the KO. Would the game have been different if DHall did his job and wasn't a jackass? Maybe..But probably not.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 17, 2010 8:59 PM | Report abuse

You are correct, but Hall was supposed to hit De J. at the line and let Laron get into coverage. Instead, Hall gave Jackson a free release and he blew by Laron.

Posted by: scampbell1975

That is part of it. LaRon wasn't going back nearly quickly enough, which is on him. On the replay, LaRon is at the 47 yard line while djax is at the 48. So Landry is a yard deeper. djax catches it at the 35, Landry is at the 37. Meaning djax ran 13 yards while Landry covered 10.

Even if jackson is faster, he's not 30% faster. Landry had position early, and then misplayed it.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 17, 2010 8:30 PM

That's only part of it though. D Hall is supposed to bump him at the line and ply him to a certain spot thus somewhat directing his pattern. When that didn't happen Laron was forced to continue his back pedal and not commit to a certain side until he could see which way Jackson was heading. If Laron turns to the sideline too quick Jackson takes the inside and is gone, if Laron turns his shoulders to the inside then Jackson turns the pattern towards the sideline and is gone. D Hall was supposed to take away that sideline option early on.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 17, 2010 9:04 PM | Report abuse

Some things never change......
Article: Rock bottomless
Article from:The Washington Post Article date:October 19,2009
///////
With less than four minutes to play at FedEx Field, the sparse remains of the Redskins crowd stood as one. And they did nothing.

They did not cheer. They did not exhort their team to block a long field goal by a Kansas City rookie named Ryan Succop, the final player picked in the last NFL draft, which would put the awful Chiefs, losers of 28 of their previous 30 games, ahead 9-6.

The crowd did not boo, either. Instead, in a sight I can never remember at a sporting event, the fans spontaneously shared a moment of silence, a communal mortification, as they stood witness to the bleakest moment -- all factors considered -- in the history of the Redskins franchise.


Posted by: kingpenn1 | November 17, 2010 9:17 PM | Report abuse

You all can dissect this play or that again and again...just remember while you're hacking off to videotape that the entire NFL and 31 other fanbases are laughing their as33es off at you.

The Eagles scored five touchdowns in the first quarter. FIVE touchdowns. Stop pretending the bottom didn't fall out of the Washington Redskins organization Monday night. Stop making apologies or trying to qualify this train wreck. Stop pretending this team is a game or two from the playoffs. Stop enabling Snyder. Stop buying their crap. Start complaining, protesting and causing trouble.

Do something to restore our proud franchise.

Posted by: Pepper5 | November 17, 2010 9:19 PM | Report abuse

You all can dissect this play or that one over again and again...just remember while you're hacking off to videotape that the entire NFL and 31 other fanbases are laughing their as33es off at you.

The Eagles scored five touchdowns in the first quarter. FIVE touchdowns. Stop pretending the bottom didn't fall out of the Washington Redskins organization Monday night. Stop making apologies or trying to qualify this train wreck. Stop pretending this team is a game or two from the playoffs. Stop enabling Snyder. Stop buying their crap. Start complaining, protesting and causing trouble.

Do something to restore our proud franchise.

Posted by: Pepper5 | November 17, 2010 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Pepper 2x- They stomped us Monday night but we own the series 78-69 and have 3 SBs compared to None, Nada, Zippy, Zilch for the eagles.

F the Eagles

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 17, 2010 9:42 PM | Report abuse


But, But, But he's our best CB. He wants to be on the other team's #1 WR. This after Keven Walter went for over 150 on him.

Here's the deal.

He has ELITE hands but he can't cover his shadow or tackle his sister. He's the one that F'ed up on the 1st play of the game, not LL.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 17, 2010 7:31 PM |

quit whining

Posted by: hessone | November 17, 2010 9:44 PM | Report abuse

Chris Johnson's best game was 228 yards in 2009. 100 to 1 says that the always accommodating redskins will allow him to break his current record.

Posted by: kingpenn1 | November 17, 2010 9:48 PM | Report abuse

I'm embarrassed for you. Really? He QUIT on the play and laid on the field and took a nap. He then said that he got hit by friendly fire (Vonnie Holiday) although replays show no such hit and then said he heard a whistle. ALBERT HAYNESWORTH SYMBOLIZES DAN SNYDER'S TENURE AS AN OWNER AND THAT ONE PLAY SYMBOLIZES ALBERT HAYNESWORTH AS A PLAYER AND A HUMAN BEING. HE'S A FAT POS QUITTER.

BTW. His blocker after standing over him for a few seconds left him there as he napped and blocked AC 2 seconds before Vick threw the ball that Avant caught OUT OF BOUNDS for a TD.

Posts like that put you in pabrain territory.


Posted by: Diesel44 | November 17, 2010

Whatever Diesel. Could you look at that game and say that anyone game max effort on defense? Yeah AH gave a Shanny-esque excuse but don't try to make it as though that was the turning point. What did anyone do to "Inspire" that team?

He stunk just like the rest of them. I get that you've never been a fan of his. Anyway, I'm done with that game....

Posted by: dcwun | November 17, 2010 9:55 PM | Report abuse

quit whining

Posted by: hessone | November 17, 2010 9:44 PM

I'm embarrassed for you. Really? He quit on the play and laid on the field and took a nap. He then said that he got hit by friendly fire (Vonnie Holiday) although replays show no such hit and then said he heard a whistle. ALBERT HAYNESWORTH SYMBOLIZES DAN SNYDER'S TENURE AS AN OWNER AND THAT ONE PLAY SYMBOLIZES ALBERT HAYNESWORTH AS A PLAYER AND A HUMAN BEING. HE'S A FAT POS QUITTER.

BTW. His blocker after standing over him for a few seconds left him there as he napped and blocked AC 2 seconds before Vick threw the ball that Avant caught OUT OF BOUNDS for a TD.

Posts like that put you in pabrain territory.

Never been called a whiner nor have I ever actually whined. You are either joking or you just fail to comprehend the most basic statements/RI subtleties/or you read sarcasm like it's a foreign language.

You've come a long way from your boycott $nyder nonsense but lately you have regressed as much as our Offense and Defense has this year.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 17, 2010 10:01 PM | Report abuse

Not sure how the post to Dcwun got in there but the last 2 paragraphs are for you......hessone.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 17, 2010 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: dcwun | November 17, 2010 9:55 PM

You're a good dude dcwun, but you can't so cavalierly dismiss AH quitting on his team on that play while the other 10 guys fought their guts out. His signature plays as a pro will be him stomping on Gurode's dome and taking a Nap last Monday.

What makes him even more of a POS is that he has the talent to be dominant (3-4 DE, NT, DT) he just doesn't have the heart.

He will be gone after this year and if he finds success, good for him and his fans, I only care that disrespects the BnG every time he puts it on.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 17, 2010 10:17 PM | Report abuse

He will be gone after this year and if he finds success, good for him and his fans, I only care that disrespects the BnG every time he puts it on.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 17, 2010 10:17 PM | Report abuse

True. But equally disrespsectful of the BnG was Snyderatto signing him.

And please folks, don't try the 20- 20 is hindsight routine about this--as JLC and others called our corrupt and inept management on it when they did it back in '09.

Posted by: Pepper5 | November 17, 2010 10:24 PM | Report abuse

True. But equally disrespsectful of the BnG was Snyderatto signing him.

And please folks, don't try the 20- 20 is hindsight routine about this--as JLC and others called our corrupt and inept management on it when they did it back in '09.

Posted by: Pepper5 | November 17, 2010 10:24 PM

AH is the poster child of Snyder's tenure as the owner.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 17, 2010 10:28 PM | Report abuse

AH is the poster child of Snyder's tenure as the owner.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 17, 2010 10:28 PM | Report abuse

For me it's still the 'Ol Ball Coach. I'm not arguing that it should be, it just left a big impression I've never been able to shake.

Posted by: Pepper5 | November 17, 2010 10:35 PM | Report abuse

I'd go with Zorn as HC. The fact that he handpicked the coordinators and then expected to actually sign an NFL caliber coach was laughable.

I'd then go with AH as the FA/Trade gem of all the bad FAs and trades he's "orchestrated".

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 17, 2010 10:40 PM | Report abuse

No no you're right clearly it was the Zorn decision.

Posted by: Pepper5 | November 17, 2010 10:49 PM | Report abuse

Torain's awesome, huh?

Posted by: pabrian2003 | November 17, 2010 11:34 PM | Report abuse

He has ELITE hands but he can't cover his shadow or tackle his sister. He's the one that F'ed up on the 1st play of the game, not LL.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 17, 2010 7:31 PM | Report abuse

Why are you picking on two, three, or four players specifically in that game. As if that one play would've covered up the many other poor play that game. Hall missed the jam, but LL was 30 yards down field and still let DJak close the cushion on him. In LLs own word,...he didn't expect Vick to come back to Djak, that's why LL was late to react to him. Poor play on both players.

Why not signal some of the other players who just whiffed on tackles, or were out of position. Chalk that game as a poor effort all the way around and move on.

Posted by: TWISI | November 17, 2010 11:36 PM | Report abuse

Why not signal some of the other players who just whiffed on tackles, or were out of position. Chalk that game as a poor effort all the way around and move on.

Posted by: TWISI | November 17, 2010 11:36 PM

Poor games by all. I'm "picking" on the effort of two players and the selfish penalty on Dhall that took away a chance for our best weapon on O to make a play on the ensuing KO.

Our DL is garbage. Golston gets owned in the 3-4 at DE. Carriker is a nice player for depth. 96 isn't even serviceable at NT. 93 and 91 need to retire and 92 is a selfish quitting POS.

Our LBs are serviceable besides 98 (stud). 59 is a warrior but is slowing. 52 needs to go to a 4-3 D next yr. 97 is a favorite of mine that gets by on heart and hard work but might be best playing inside after dropping a few more Lbs. 99 is terrible in space and unless his hand is in the dirt it's like playing 10 on 11.

Our secondary is abysmal in zone coverage. Dhall is Dhall. Landry is a stud if he plays the SS position and not 30 yds off the LOS. Rodgers is our best CB but never gets thrown at. I had high hopes for Moore but he can't tackle, takes bad angles, and we need to find a replacement in the offseason.

There you go.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 17, 2010 11:55 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 17, 2010 11:55 PM

Team effort this past Monday. Hopefully that effort leads to a win this Sunday.

Posted by: TWISI | November 18, 2010 12:08 AM | Report abuse

That is part of it. LaRon wasn't going back nearly quickly enough, which is on him. On the replay, LaRon is at the 47 yard line while djax is at the 48. So Landry is a yard deeper. djax catches it at the 35, Landry is at the 37. Meaning djax ran 13 yards while Landry covered 10.

Even if jackson is faster, he's not 30% faster. Landry had position early, and then misplayed it.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 17, 2010 8:30 PM

That's only part of it though. D Hall is supposed to bump him at the line and ply him to a certain spot thus somewhat directing his pattern. When that didn't happen Laron was forced to continue his back pedal and not commit to a certain side until he could see which way Jackson was heading. If Laron turns to the sideline too quick Jackson takes the inside and is gone, if Laron turns his shoulders to the inside then Jackson turns the pattern towards the sideline and is gone. D Hall was supposed to take away that sideline option early on.

Posted by: scampbell1975

Landry still has to know that djax can out run him and begin to run in stride sooner. Of course, if Landry peeks into the backfield at any point -- and most safeties do -- he knows Vick has rolled left meaning its almost certainly a post pattern -- any other pattern forces vick to throw it over the safety, making it easier to knock down or pick.

DHall missed on his piece, but Landry's #1 job is to keep the WR from getting behind him. He was the guy who messed up

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 18, 2010 12:31 AM | Report abuse

DHall missed on his piece, but Landry's #1 job is to keep the WR from getting behind him. He was the guy who messed up

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 18, 2010 12:31 AM

I would tend to blame both of them more than just one of them. Actually I would blame the whole team. They all sucked at more than one point.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 18, 2010 1:10 AM | Report abuse

DHall missed on his piece, but Landry's #1 job is to keep the WR from getting behind him. He was the guy who messed up

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 18, 2010 12:31 AM

I would tend to blame both of them more than just one of them. Actually I would blame the whole team. They all sucked at more than one point.

Posted by: scampbell1975

No shortage of villians ... on that play or many others.

fwiw, I never saw any actual holding on Orakpo on that play (limits of my replay view), but Orakpo doesn't get stuck like that unless he is being held.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 18, 2010 1:51 AM | Report abuse

Studs and Duds: Redskins-Eagles
By: John Keim
Examiner Staff Writer
11/17/10 12:46 PM EST

Studs

RB Keiland Williams. Listen, when the game mattered nobody did anything of consequence, including Williams. So let’s not get carried away. And maybe nobody should be on this list, right? But he’s an undrafted rookie making his first start; it shouldn’t have been on him. His numbers weren’t bad: 89 yards rushing (32 on one run); 50 receiving. And he scored three touchdowns. He didn’t show a ton of burst through the hole, but he did break a couple tackles. He had a mixed night in protection; he missed a block that forced Donovan McNabb out of the pocket on his first interception. But he did help block Trent Cole on the deep ball to Anthony Armstrong. Still, he lacks some instincts in protection that only time will cure. Once, for example, with blitzes coming up the middle he still tried to head to the flat when it was clear he was only a safety valve. Better to have stayed in to block.

P Hunter Smith. This is what kind of night it was; the punter is celebrated. And I bet nobody even noticed! Including, well, me. Actually it did seem like he kicked one nice ball after another, but when a team is trailing by 100 points it’s hard to drop your jaw for the punter. Anyway, he averaged 50 yards on six punts and a net of 44.0 yards. Bully for him.


Duds


C Casey Rabach. Too many times Rabach was pushed back or failed to prevent his man from penetrating on stretch runs. Yes, that messes up any sort of attempt to get wide. He had a holding penalty, but that resulted because RG Artis Hicks, who was helping on a double team, slipped and fell, creating an opening to the outside. Rabach whiffed on a block attempt in the fourth quarter and, a couple plays later, allowed the tackle to get past him and a couple plays after that was stood up on a blitz. He’s had better nights.

RT Stephon Heyer. I wonder what would have happened had he played the entire game. As it was, Heyer had enough missteps in part-time duty to last all game. Thing with him, they usually happen the longer he plays. In a three-play stretch at the start of the third quarter, Heyer was driven back and knocked off-balance by the end; he tried to cut the end and failed. He had failed to cut another rusher earlier in the game.

more...

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 18, 2010 5:18 AM | Report abuse

continued...

DC Jim Haslett. He had a terrific game plan in the first meeting and was praised. This time? Well, when your defense allows 52 points … Some of it was a result of Michael Vick being Michael Vick. He played one of the scariest games you’ll ever see by a QB; it was a night that will be long discussed when his career is mentioned. He made plays when nothing was available, but some of that came because the backside would be left open. But whatever the Redskins ran, the Eagles had a successful counter. They passed fairly well vs. the base 3-4 defense because that front rarely generates pressure. They hit a ton of big plays. The offense didn’t help by failing to control the ball, but it just wasn’t a good night for anybody on the Redskins’ sideline, Haslett included.

SS LaRon Landry. Whether he spit or not, I don’t know. I do remember when the late Sean Taylor was accused of this and how everyone defended him until there was video proof. I don’t know why another player would accuse someone of this if it didn’t happen; but, again, there’s no proof. Regardless, he botched the first play of the game and that set a tone for the night. Landry’s instincts betrayed him, believing DeSean Jackson was not an option on the play. But he has to be aware of Vick’s arm strength and Jackson’s speed; instead, he was fooled and it led to an 88-yard touchdown. Landry also missed a tackle on Jerome Harrison’s 50-yard run.

CB DeAngelo Hall. It’s not as if he was awful, but he wasn’t exactly good either. On the first play, he allowed Jackson to get too clean a release off the line. Jackson never budged off his path, enabling him to run a little slower to con Landry. Hall also missed a tackle on the 50-yard touchdown run and he later dropped an interception.

WR Joey Galloway. The coaches can defend him all they want, but he’s added nothing. Galloway didn’t exactly run his in-route with a lot of urgency, allowing the corner to jump him for the interception. He dropped the other pass thrown his way. Of Donovan McNabb’s 11 interceptions, three have come on pass attempts to Galloway. That wouldn’t be such a bad number if he’d thrown more than 32 passes to Galloway. Of those, he’s caught nine. The Eagles have Jason Avant as their No. 3 receiver; the Redskins have Galloway. Anyone wonder why one team is better offensively?

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LB Lorenzo Alexander. Had a terrific game in the first meeting; not so good this time. It’s one thing to get juked by Michael Vick; happens to many guys. But Alexander wasn’t as effective vs. the run and his inability to pressure the quarterback was more pronounced in this game, simply because the Redskins needed more of a rush from their base 3-4 package. Late in the game Andre Carter was used mostly in this spot in the base front. Several times Alexander lined up at nose only to drop; pretty much every time an LB lines up in this spot they drop so not sure what it’s doing to help. Also seemed to lose backside contain a couple times. He did have another huge hit on special teams.

QB Donovan McNabb. Nice way to celebrate that new contract. Again, when the game mattered he was awful; so throwing a couple touchdown passes when you’re down 35-zippy is good for the stats but not exactly awesome. I will say, the pass to Armstrong was terrific. Still, the Redskins needed him to be better early to generate momentum and slow the Eagles. He responded with an interception on the second series and a missed receiver on the third. The interception resulted from pressure that forced him out of the pocket. McNabb slid to his left, but could have re-set his feet. Instead, he drifted; the pass drifted too and skipped off the hands of WR Santana Moss. Maybe he should have caught it; but the ball definitely could have been thrown better. Next series, he was high to Cooley on third down. Oh, speaking of third down, how about this: zero for six passing, three interceptions. Mike Shanahan calls that the money down for a QB; good thing that contract came before the game. Also must say that it was striking how much time Vick received in the pocket compared to McNabb. It’s why you absolutely can’t blame him for all the offensive woes by any means.

HC Mike Shanahan. You have two weeks to prepare a team and this is the result? Yikes. Also, to keep only two running backs active when one of them, Ryan Torain, has battled hamstring issues and was questionable, was surprising. Naturally, Torain hurt his hamstring in pre-game warm-ups and couldn’t play. Was it a difference in the game? No. It could have been. And when players say they were outplayed and outcoached, it starts at the top.

Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/sports/blogs/redskins-confidential/Studs-and-Duds-Redskins-Eagles-108716419.html#ixzz15d08vTUl

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 18, 2010 5:22 AM | Report abuse

Redskins notes and analysis 11/17/10
By: John Keim
Examiner Staff Writer
11/17/10 5:46 PM EST

1. Running backs Clinton Portis (groin) and Ryan Torain (hamstring) remain uncertain for Sunday’s game at Tennessee. Portis has missed the past five games; Torain did not play vs. Philadelphia on Monday.
Torain did not practice Wednesday, even though it was held at half- to three-quarter speed. Portis was able to work.
Cornerback Carlos Rogers has a hamstring injury, though coach Mike Shanahan said he would have a better idea of the severity on Thursday.

2. Defensive lineman Albert Haynesworth said the play in which he lied on the ground for nearly five seconds Monday while Eagles quarterback Michael Vick raced around resulted from a couple factors. Haynesworth said teammate Vonnie Holliday bumped into him, helping knock him to the ground. He said he had a Charlie horse in his thigh, so he stayed on the ground to “gather himself.”
“I thought I heard the whistle,” Haynesworth said. “Then I looked up and was like, ‘[Expletive], he’s still got the ball.’ “
But replays showed even at that point he slowly got off the ground. Shanahan would not give his opinion of the play, saying he addresses such matters in private.
And defensive end Phillip Daniels said when Haynesworth came to the sidelines after that play, he said, “I thought somebody got [Vick].”
It wasn’t a good thing to have on tape.

3. Quarterback Donovan McNabb said everyone is “nit-picking” his contract. Multiple reports say the Redskins could release him in the offseason before a $10-million bonus is due, costing them only $3.5 million.
“My name stays in the media. So everyone will talk about this contract for a while,” he said. “When people see the contract, then they’ll know.”
When asked if he could guarantee that McNabb will be his starting quarterback next year, Shanahan danced around the issue. “I have a contract and I’m sure hoping I’ll be here in five years,” he said. “Anytime you sign a contract you’re always hoping to fulfill the contract.”

4. Shanahan said he had not yet talked to strong safety LaRon Landry about the accusations that he spit at Eagles center Mike McGlynn during the 59-28 loss Monday night.
He also said he wasn’t sure what happened to start the pre-game confrontation.
“Two guys escalated it more; I think cooler heads prevailed,” Shanahan said. “Sometimes guys lose their cool, but nothing happened after that.”

5. The Redskins tested Brown for a concussion Wednesday and still had not heard the results. But coach Mike Shanahan said Brown was feeling better after leaving Monday’s 59-28 loss to Philadelphia with a head injury. Brown rotated with Stephon Heyer for the first part of the game before leaving for good in the second half. His play has improved of late as his hip has felt better, but the Redskins still need better production out of this position. Heyer remains an inconsistent replacement.

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6. More Albert on the Titans: “Do they wish they still had me? Yeah. Sometimes I wish I was still back there because I feel like I could still be dominant. People think I’m not playing as good as I can, but all of it ain’t about the player. Sometimes it’s the scheme, but we’re getting back to it. They’re letting me play, so you’re seeing more production.”

7. And even more Albert: “People probably don’t think I care about the Redskins,” he said. “That’s not true. I have a lot of great friends on this team and we do a lot of great things together. As far as thinking that just because I got paid that I’m not going to play, that’s not true either. I always said if you just put me in the right situation, I’ll be prosperous.”

8. Haynesworth said he does feel more appreciated this season. “I felt like I was just a showpiece to take up blocks and help my teammates. In Tennessee they would move me around and do a lot of different things so I could make plays.”

9. Haynesworth said returning to Tennessee won’t cause him to think more about his deceased half-brother.
“No. I think of my brother every day. It doesn’t matter where I’m at,” he said. “I know it only happened probably seven or eight miles away from the stadium. He’s still close to me and he’s still with me.”

10. Studs and Duds.

11. Adding this because I forgot to put it in the first time, but there was a telling comment made by Shanahan regarding the McNabb interception thrown near Joey Galloway. When asked about the play, all Shanahan would really say is, "We liked the throw." In other words, the receiver messed up. Galloway did not run that route with any urgency and it showed; if I'm a QB, I'm ticked off. And I say that as an Ohio State alum who loved watching Galloway. But this is torture. He played little after that pass (if at all). That's it for my rant.


Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/sports/blogs/redskins-confidential/Redskins-notes-and-analysis-111710-108779659.html#ixzz15d8fbwoF

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 18, 2010 5:56 AM | Report abuse

Keim--

"Galloway did not run that route with any urgency and it showed; if I'm a QB, I'm ticked off. And I say that as an Ohio State alum who loved watching Galloway. But this is torture. He played little after that pass (if at all). That's it for my rant."


That's it? You call that a "rant"? Don't you come back to Redskins Insider bringing that weak shti if that's a "rant." You don't have a single word in all caps. You didn't have sex with Joey Galloway, his mother, his sister, his daughter, or his granddaughter. You didn't say anything about his job at Pizza Hut. You didn't use the words idiot or moron. You didn't change his name to Joey Go-away. Get out of here. We got no use for you, John Kreim.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 18, 2010 6:06 AM | Report abuse

I don't think Galloway plays this week time to bring up Austin.

They better bring up Davis because he will run out of patience and leave soon.

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 18, 2010 6:13 AM | Report abuse

Follow the leader to the new post. Follow

beep-beep

Posted by: beep-beep | November 18, 2010 6:16 AM | Report abuse

Flound, I've been about as close to a Shanahan apologist as there is up here but that's unforgiveable to go into that game with only one healthy RB when you've got a guy ready to roll like Davis. I mean, it almost felt like he WANTED to lose that game...

Beep, Keim basically admitted that Galloway is his boy because they're both Buckeyes so that's about as close to a "rant" as you'd see from him. Plus not every paper exhibits a ridiculous bias against the Redskins like the WaPo does...

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 18, 2010 6:28 AM | Report abuse

Hall let Jackson run past him unimpeded, and totally exposed LaRon who isn't that great at cover. The whole league can see the Skins weaknesses. I agree with the guy who said Hall has great hands (unlike that brick hand Rodgers) but he benefits from gambles and bad decisions from the QB. But in general, our secondary is terrible. Most QBs have a high completion percentage and it's like they play 5-10 yards off the receiver, waits til he catches the pass, then everybody converges to tackle. And we we a lot of bad tackling (Hall, Moore, LaRon, etc.,) and guys who constantly get beat in space flailing at air as the runner easily dodges them and leaves them on the ground. People, 3/4 of this team is bad, old, overrated, and can't beat their opponent even half the time. We need to do a mass house-cleaning and just bring in some newer, younger players. Better to be bad with young players then be bad with old, worn out, bums.

Posted by: jfoster13 | November 18, 2010 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Hey slim, you write,"Four Redskins unable to practice", c'mon, you are supposedly an educated man, right, I say, WHAT THE HECK DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!

They are so ashamed of Monday night's debacle that they don't want to be seen on national television again all year. That's the first intelligent thing they've done since training camp, don't hinder 'em now for God's sake!!!
Al qaeda could have beaten them, and so will Tennessee!!!!

Posted by: burro2 | November 18, 2010 12:23 PM | Report abuse

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