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Is an aging Clinton Portis finished with the Redskins?

Correction: Clinton Portis's stats, listed in the second paragraph of the post below, were from 2007, not 2008.
--Washington Post editors

Analysis

In March of 2008, the Redskins renegotiated Clinton Portis's contract.

During the 2008 season, Portis rushed for 1,262 yards (with a 3.9-yard average) and scored 11 touchdowns. He also established personal bests with 47 receptions for 389 yards, playing a key role down the stretch as the team earned a playoff berth.

The Redskins gave Portis a signing bonus of more than $9.3 million. He had low base salaries of $605,000 in 2008 and $745,000 in 2009.

This season, however, Portis's base increased to almost $7.2 million, of which $6.4 million was guaranteed regardless of whether he made the 53-man roster (the remainder became guaranteed when Portis was with the team on opening day). In addition, the Redskins on Aug. 31 paid Portis a $500,000 bonus.

It was surprising that the Redskins paid Portis so much money in the final guaranteed season of his contract. Many in the organization were well aware of Portis's lack of commitment to offseason conditioning for most of his first six seasons with Washington, and some privately expressed concern that the team would not receive good value for its major reinvestment in him.

History also indicates that running backs who have carried heavy workloads suffer major drop-offs in production after 30. Portis, in football terms, is an old 29 because of the number of carries he's had and how hard he has run and blocked throughout his nine-year career. And Portis had a history of injuries at the time of the extension.

He was placed on season-ending injured reserve in 2006 because of a hand injury, missing the final seven games. He suffered a concussion in Week 9 last season and again was placed on injured reserve.

Of course, even players who are committed to working hard in the offseason and during practice could suffer concussions. And Portis often has played through pain from other injuries that have not sidelined him. Teammates have never questioned his commitment during games.

But it was highly unlikely that Portis - based on his personal history and the experiences of NFL running backs in general - would be productive this late in his renegotiated deal. The Redskins will pay him $7.7 million this season. Although Portis is under contract in 2011 for almost $8.3 million, the money is not guaranteed.

Could Portis eventually return to the lineup after rehabbing from a third-degree separation of his left groin? Sure. Anything is possible. The Redskins are hopeful he will be back in four to six weeks. There is also a chance, however, that Portis has played his last game for Washington.

The reality is that Coach Mike Shanahan must continue the roster overhaul that began during the offseason if he hopes to lead the Redskins to a Super Bowl. Washington must get younger in the backfield, and bringing back Portis next season would seem as unlikley as the renegotiated contract he received in March of 2008.

By Jason Reid  | October 6, 2010; 4:54 PM ET
Categories:  Clinton Portis  
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Comments

Now if he could teach Torrain to bring the Pain on Pass Blocking all would be well in teh world.

Posted by: KCskinfan | October 6, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

RB is the easiest position to fill. Guys can walk in off the street and play ok. One did it here last year. Torain cost them nothing and looks pretty good. K. Williams was undrafted and also has looked serviceable.

The biggest mistake they could make is use a high pick on a RB next year. OK, second biggest. Biggest would be to panic now and trade for someone's cast-off RB.

Posted by: Iamhumongous | October 6, 2010 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Well if I actually played those super-fun fantasy sports than maybe I'd actually worry.

But since I don't, I just may poop my pants for fun.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 6, 2010 4:54 PM |

So, he doesn't play the game, but at least he gives a sh i t.

Posted by: beep-beep | October 6, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse

It's off the bone but doesn't require surgery?

Posted by: Rypien11 | October 6, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

It depends. Surgeons are leaning towards non-surgical interventions more often these days as some studies show no advantage in recovery time if you just let the avulsion heal. You then have the advantage in that you don't have a (surgical) wound to heal on top of the injury.

But no, you don't need it reattached, the body will basically bridge the gap with scar tissue and you'll end up with something resembling a tendon attaching the muscle to the bone.

I've worked with this before and it took time, but never with a pro athlete with a training staff working on him all day every day. The last one was painfree with no restrictions on every day activities in about 8-10 weeks, but it took a lot longer than that to gain all the strength back.

Word is that you can expect 95% recovery, but the only person who would notice that 5%...is a pro athlete. We might see him again this year, but I wouldn't expect too much from him when he does return.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | October 6, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

...and thank god he put "analysis" under the heading for this thread...

Posted by: RomoLongballs | October 6, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse

This via twitter:

CindyBoren Cindy Boren
RT @Rich_Campbell: For those pondering Portis' future with #Redskins, he is to make $8.5 million next year, but there's no guaranteed money.

Wow that means he will not be a Redskin under that contract. To remain a Skin he will have to restructure big time....that is if there is a season....


Posted by: chrislarry | October 6, 2010 4:41 PM

And your point is? Ofcourse it will be obvious he has to restructure to stay....but whose to say they both or one isn't willing to restructure?

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 6, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Torain is going to be a solid starter in this league. Shanny drafted him for a reason and now he gets to use him 100% of the time. He'll look even better than Betts did during his great run a few years back.

Posted by: Section104 | October 6, 2010 5:07 PM | Report abuse

I'm confused by the last sentence.

"Washington must get younger in the backfield, and bringing back Portis next season would seem as unlikley as the renegotiated contract he received in March of 2008."

The thrust of the article would appear to be that Portis is not likely to come back next season. But the article ends by saying it's as likely to happen as something that actually did happen...

Posted by: JohnnyRyde | October 6, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Years where we had absolutely nothing else positive going on with the rest of the offense.

Posted by: FootballCardSnatcher | October 6, 2010 4:53 PM |

For much of his time in DC he did have right tackle Jon Jansen, who was a good drive blocker, to run behind.

Posted by: FrancoBegbie | October 6, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

I am so sick of the blind love for Arrington, Portis and now DT11.


Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | October 6, 2010 4:51 PM
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You want to see some blind love? Go read some of the other threads on The Bog. Barno1 is doing nothing but sucking Danny Snyder off. Every thread about Danny-Boy, Barno1 is there defending his man-crush and constantly gargling with Danny-Boys man-sauce.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 6, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

"The reality is that Coach Mike Shanahan must continue the roster overhaul that began during the offseason if he hopes to lead the Redskins to a Super Bowl."


And therein lies the rub. I think some of the great coaches, for example Gibbs, are not particularly good personnel guys.

Shanahan is great with RBs, but he won a single playoff game in his last 10 years in Denver. That was his team during that span, HIS players.

I don't know if Allen is the right guy or not, but the person that builds the team is just about as important as the one that coaches it.

Posted by: Alan4 | October 6, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse

It was surprising that the Redskins paid Portis so much money in the final guaranteed season of his contract. Many in the organization were well aware of Portis's lack of commitment to offseason conditioning for most of his first six seasons with Washington, and some privately expressed concern that the team would not receive good value for its major reinvestment in him.

*Sniff* *Sniff* Smells like team owner man crush to me.

Posted by: FrancoBegbie | October 6, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

"It was surprising that the Redskins paid Portis so much money in the final guaranteed season of his contract. "

Reid hasn't paid much attention the last few years. Portis restructured his contract several times, pushing much or the guaranteed money into what the team hoped would be (and is) a year without a salary cap.

What he seems to think is poor planning by the skins old front office is actually very impressive cap management.

Posted by: brown2hm | October 6, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

daddy screamed like a girl like OO OOOH

Posted by: trousers | October 6, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

By Jason Reid | October 6, 2010; 4:54 PM ET

whatta a HATER!

YOU WISH HATER, YOU WISH.

Portis's job IS based on performance. Jason Reid's CLEARLY is not.

Is this guy a Redskins fan?

Posted by: pabrian2003 | October 6, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

What he seems to think is poor planning by the skins old front office is actually very impressive cap management.

Posted by: brown2hm | October 6, 2010 5:14 PM

STAMPED and approved.......

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 6, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse


Devin Thomas? Who do some of you really think the guy is? This blind love reminds me of the Colt Brennan and Babe Laufenberg stuff where fans just thought that a glimmer here and a glimpse there deserved rock-star starting status.

cosign * freakin * cosign

Posted by: hessone | October 6, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse


Barno1 is doing nothing but sucking Danny Snyder off. Every thread about Danny-Boy, Barno1 is there defending his man-crush and constantly gargling with Danny-Boys man-sauce.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 6, 2010 5:10 PM |


the name barno reminds me of the circus

Posted by: hessone | October 6, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse

What he seems to think is poor planning by the skins old front office is actually very impressive cap management.

Posted by: brown2hm | October 6, 2010 5:14 PM |

It don't matter what year the dude got the money - it was a poor investment, knowing the shelf life of the average NFL running back.

Posted by: FrancoBegbie | October 6, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Fart

signed and stamped and cosigned

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 6, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

What he seems to think is poor planning by the skins old front office is actually very impressive cap management.

Posted by: brown2hm | October 6, 2010 5:14 PM

STAMPED and approved.......

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 6, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

And a brave gesture by Clinton Portis, to expect to remain healthy and productive.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | October 6, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

I do not think there is a doubt that the redskins got their money worth out of Portis over his Redskins career. They ran him into the grown repeatly.

Can we have that 3rd and 4th round pick we gave up for T.J Duckett? Hmmm didn't think so.

Posted by: dcinmd1 | October 6, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

the name barno reminds me of the circus

Posted by: hessone | October 6, 2010 5:19 PM
----

Well most of his posts do sound like they came from a clown or 2 piling out of some small automobile.

That or someone who fell off the high-wire beam a few too many times.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 6, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

For the past couple of years, I've been annoyed at how many of our skill players were going down every other week to groin & hammie injuries.

This year, those injuries are off the chart.... Kelly out for the season with bad hammies and Portis with an off-the-bone groin tear. Jeez!

I hope Moss & Torrain are stretching.

The fact that Devin Thomas can't get on the field is just amazing. It's hard to beleive he still can't beat out 84 year old Galloway.

Posted by: Alan4 | October 6, 2010 5:25 PM | Report abuse

He'll be beack this year....

....and gone the next.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | October 6, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Devin Thomas? Who do some of you really think the guy is? This blind love reminds me of the Colt Brennan and Babe Laufenberg stuff where fans just thought that a glimmer here and a glimpse there deserved rock-star starting status.

cosign * freakin * cosign

Posted by: hessone | October 6, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

I CALL B.S.! Colt and Babe NEVER played in the regular season.

DT had 325 yds receiving, 439 return yds, 3 tds and 5 tackles last year.

Your a DT hater, shan-a-sheep

Posted by: pabrian2003 | October 6, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

mistamayor,

Is an aging Clinton Portis finished with the Redskins?

I believe that some of us have already touched on this issue:

We expected a healthy Portis in place to get yards in the run game.

Yes: he is a quality blocker.

But with the running game down so far, we need him healthy.

And that doesn't seem to be the case for the second year in a row.

Look: I'd love for Clinton Portis to be in place for a 1300-1500 rush year.

But if he's 'dinged'--again--it's time to move on from what he delivers as a player.

It happens all the time in the NFL.

And eventually, it'll happen here.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 5, 2010 10:55 AM

Posted by: gimmesummoe | October 6, 2010 5:33 PM | Report abuse

mistamayor,

Is an aging Clinton Portis finished with the Redskins?

I believe that some of us have already touched on this issue:

We expected a healthy Portis in place to get yards in the run game.

Yes: he is a quality blocker.

But with the running game down so far, we need him healthy.

And that doesn't seem to be the case for the second year in a row.

Look: I'd love for Clinton Portis to be in place for a 1300-1500 rush year.

But if he's 'dinged'--again--it's time to move on from what he delivers as a player.

It happens all the time in the NFL.

And eventually, it'll happen here.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 5, 2010 10:55 AM

Posted by: gimmesummoe | October 6, 2010 5:33 PM | Report abuse

via the twitters...

Hunter the Punter to sign with Redskins tomorrow.

Posted by: 4-12 | October 6, 2010 5:33 PM | Report abuse

It don't matter what year the dude got the money - it was a poor investment, knowing the shelf life of the average NFL running back.

Posted by: FrancoBegbie | October 6, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

But if Portis was going to get the money anyway, as guaranteed by the contract before it was restructured, it makes sense to give him as much as possible when there is not salary cap. If we didn't restructure Clinton's deal and push back the guaranteed money, it would have been much harder for the team to take a cap hit on things like releasing Brandon Lloyd or Jansen.

Posted by: brown2hm | October 6, 2010 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Just think how awesome our receiving corps would be if we used Thomas and still had Brandon Lloyd.

We'd be unstoppable.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 6, 2010 5:36 PM | Report abuse

John Feinstein just had a car accident while talking to Czaban and Pollin on the air. Just before the collision, he yelled out and cursed on the air. Hysterical. Hope he was hands-free at the time.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | October 6, 2010 5:38 PM | Report abuse

"It don't matter what year the dude got the money - it was a poor investment, knowing the shelf life of the average NFL running back."

Agreed.

The clever aspect I'm waiting for is the way some stand in--other than Torain--will be added.

Maybe DT gets moved for MLynch or L Blount is brought in.

We'll see.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | October 6, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

"It don't matter what year the dude got the money - it was a poor investment, knowing the shelf life of the average NFL running back."

Agreed.

The clever aspect I'm waiting for is the way some stand in--other than Torain--will be added.

Maybe DT gets moved for MLynch or L Blount is brought in.

We'll see.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | October 6, 2010 5:41 PM | Report abuse

"

This via twitter:

CindyBoren Cindy Boren
RT @Rich_Campbell: For those pondering Portis' future with #Redskins, he is to make $8.5 million next year, but there's no guaranteed money.

Wow that means he will not be a Redskin under that contract. To remain a Skin he will have to restructure big time....that is if there is a season....


Posted by: chrislarry | October 6, 2010 4:41 PM

And your point is? Ofcourse it will be obvious he has to restructure to stay....but whose to say they both or one isn't willing to restructure?

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 6, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse "

Jeesh 4th, cranky today??? Just passing a long a little info. Didn't say anything about willingness/unwillingness just that it would have to happen to keep him on the roster.....

Posted by: chrislarry | October 6, 2010 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Who cares about how much Clinton is paid. It's not our money.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 6, 2010 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Love that we canned Bidwell and brought back Hunter the Punter....never understood the switch and Bidwell's punting has ben AWFUL!

Posted by: chrislarry | October 6, 2010 5:45 PM | Report abuse

"During the 2008 season Portis rushed for 1,262 yards...playing a key role down the stretch as the team earned a playoff berth."

Really? Made the playoffs in 2008? Zorn Vinny and Dan must have been so proud.

Posted by: Pepper5 | October 6, 2010 6:15 PM | Report abuse

The thrust of the article would appear to be that Portis is not likely to come back next season. But the article ends by saying it's as likely to happen as something that actually did happen...

Posted by: JohnnyRyde | October 6, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Mayor has a difficult time ending posts. Or, rather, he doesn't waste any time double checking logic or editorial ethics putting a bow at the end of them. I don't think he really thinks about it most. Does it sound good? Then done. Make sense? Who cares.

Posted by: WorstSeat | October 6, 2010 6:17 PM | Report abuse

Insane Trade O' the Day:

Devin Thomas-wr

for

Javon Ringer--rb (TENN)

A Spartan for a Spartan, I say.

Ringer is CJohnson's back up and Thomas is MKelly's partner in the Draft Crime of 2008.

The titan's don't have a lot of flash and dash at the wr spot, and the skins need someone to be in place should RTorain get hurt (again).

So, we offer this insane trade idea (the JNorwood from ATL move is next) not because it's crazy, but because it's crazy that it won't happen.

And from both team's perspectives, that's what's so insane.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | October 6, 2010 6:17 PM | Report abuse

C YA Portis-O-Potty!!!

Posted by: wagenstill | October 6, 2010 6:20 PM | Report abuse

Let's see who is availiable:

Marshawn Lynch--bills

Jerrious Norwood--falcons

Mike Garrett--chargers

Tashard Choice--cowboys

Derrick Ward--bucs

Ricky Williams--fins

Javon Ringer--titans

Tim Hightower--cards

Franco Harris--stillers


I bet that somewhere in that group we'll find the next redskin tailback..

...or a heart attack victim.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | October 6, 2010 6:23 PM | Report abuse

"playing a key role down the stretch as the team earned a playoff berth"

Wow the Redskins made the playoffs in 2008? Where was I?

Posted by: ThisGuy | October 6, 2010 6:25 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins last made the playoffs in 2007 (not 2008 as stated in the second paragraph above), Gibbs last season. The last two seasons in 2008 and 2009 were under Zorn, in which we all know the Redskins did not make the playoffs.

Posted by: cannontl | October 6, 2010 6:59 PM | Report abuse

So did Portis rush for 1,262 yards in 2008 or 2007?

Posted by: cannontl | October 6, 2010 7:07 PM | Report abuse

The Skins worked him into the ground for his size. Good running back whose best days are behind him. Let him size up the day on the bench and let a kid hit it hard. Pay him and move on

Posted by: erthdog | October 6, 2010 7:08 PM | Report abuse

Good Riddance

Posted by: DCFanatic | October 6, 2010 7:30 PM | Report abuse

CP did a helluva job for a lot of years both here and in Denver, but c'mon guys, the dude is as worn out as Bill Clinton's pickup lines.
To seriously count on his contributions in the future is going to both futile and costly. Shanny already is well aware of that fact, and CP knows it too.
Wonder if he'd be any good as a RB Coach????

Posted by: burro2 | October 6, 2010 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Playoffs in 08 huh and the best job Zorn could get was QB coach of a crosstown rival....update your resume coach.....and this guy actually gets paid to write this garbage

Posted by: dropped23 | October 6, 2010 7:58 PM | Report abuse

It's not that unlikely that Clinton will be back if you assume he wants to continue playing football. Look at it this way: SOME team is going to sign him. Will it be for $8m+? Of course not. But if he's going to take less money elsewhere, he may take less money here. It would certainly be less hassle for him in that he already knows the system and the city. Presumably, he has an in-season home in the area. He's close friends with Moss, etc. I think its at least a 60% chance he's back next year. Probably as a third-down back for pass protection, running draws, and catching passes out of the backfield. He can still be productive if used correctly and his experience in this offense makes him invaluable if next year's starter gets banged up for a week or two.

Posted by: mhaslup | October 6, 2010 10:32 PM | Report abuse

every body that has been here for to long get rid of them. they have been part of a losing atmosphere for to long and that is why the first sign of trouble they look like here we go again. you don't need ur core group of guy's to be conditioned to losing. get rid of moss,portis,seller's,rabach and all of the other's that have been here to long loser's out of here. bring in people who have been winner's who won't tuck tail when thing's fall apart. winner's damm! it.

Posted by: dakel76 | October 7, 2010 2:01 AM | Report abuse

those type of guy's wear on your younger player's who come in and that aint what they need. i rather be around decent player's with a winning attitude than great talent with no ball's. like i said in my previous post it's time to get rid of our core guy's that have settled for being loser's for to long we need vet's from winning program's who will fight until the last whistle blow's not these over payed whinning primo's we have on this team. i said get rid of cp three year's ago and crucified we had a chance to draft adrian p. and past him over to keep portis pleese. ap may fumble here and there but he does'nt accept losing and until we get guy's with a win or die trying attitude in here we will continue to be at the bottom of the nfc east hail!!!

Posted by: dakel76 | October 7, 2010 2:18 AM | Report abuse

The biggest mistake they could make is use a high pick on a RB next year. OK, second biggest. Biggest would be to panic now and trade for someone's cast-off RB.

Posted by: Iamhumongous


Mark Ingram.

He's special enough to warrant a high pick because he's a beast and a game-changer. Otherwise, choose a fast third round guy.

Of course, you can argue that we have other problems to address before rb. In which case, I think Trent Richardson will be coming off the same team the following year.

Posted by: lordtwang | October 7, 2010 2:56 AM | Report abuse

I guess the smart thing to do was to let Portis go from the start when they were purging, but when have the skins made any smart moves.

They need to be bold like the Patriots and take their chances letting players go like NE let Seymour go last year and Moss yesterday.

But I guarantee you that instead of looking for a future QB, the skins will pin their hopes on an aging QB who is good but has flaws that will most likely stop them short of their ultimate goal.

Posted by: keedrow | October 7, 2010 7:10 AM | Report abuse

I spent a half hour yesterday BS with my good college friend and beer buddy on the very same question as the heading of this article . My friends name is Kyle and yes that Kyle . We spent two years playing ball & 5 years tossing back silver bullets ...lol . I ask him because I am a die hard skins fan and he knows that . The answer , three to be honest made me wonder if Portis wasn't aware of the plan " ALLEN & SHANNY " the plans are based on Torrain getting the system down 100 % & becoming a better DBER ( dog blocker ). Kyle said Portis is the best blocking back in picking up the blitz that his dad or even Madden had ever seen . Seems shanny & Madden talk once twice a month . The plan is to work Torrain in the rotation with Portis being the next ( Joe Washington )on 2nd & long - 3rd & long . This rotation was to start taking place in the 2nd part of Shannys so called 2nd semister of the schedule . I would not be surprized at all to see the new RB ( Simpson )get a look at the 3rd down guy in practice . This plan was to take effect based on how Portis looked after the first four games . The hamstring pull now will effect the plan until he is healthy enough to run decent flare & screen routes. The Skins are going in a youth direction this will be a final ( one tree hill ) for many players . The defensive lineman could very well be playing their last snaps for the Redskins . Kyle talk about how Belishizts in Ne handles the downside of a player trading them before the DS is apparnet . My take from this whole thing is ...

1. if Portis comes back 95 % his role on the team will be 12-18 touches a game

2. if Portis still thinks he can handle a workload of 25-35 touches a game he will be released

3. The front office thinks portis could extend his playing days by 2-3 years if he embraces this new role .He will need to be a workout freak like a T.O. staying in top shape like he has this 2010 off season .

I also heard Kyle use the word ( old men )when refering to 2 players on the offensive line .

Posted by: terryreece | October 7, 2010 8:59 AM | Report abuse

I have suffered an avulsion of my hamstring (tearing off my pelvic bone)twice and know for a fact he is done this year. No way he can be back...it will pop right off again within 6-8 months(min.)if not very careful.
that's football.

ouch!

Posted by: tttyler | October 7, 2010 9:42 AM | Report abuse

Such a shame! It's a shame that Portis had to spend all of his time in DC with a truly terrible team and with a truly repulsive owner. Reminds me of Larry Brown. The teams he played on were almost as bad. But at least they had decent management in those days.

Posted by: sameolddoc | October 7, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Such a shame! It's a shame that Portis had to spend all of his time in DC with a truly terrible team and with a truly repulsive owner. Reminds me of Larry Brown. The teams he played on were almost as bad. But at least they had decent management in those days.

Posted by: sameolddoc | October 7, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Wasn't the extension and the funny guarantees part of some larger attempt to decrease salary cap hits in 2008/2009? Like a quid pro quo for restructuring or a way of deferring money for cap purposes? I don't know, but it seems highly unlikely that the guaranteed money was for merit, it had to be some of the Redskins' classic cap evasion strategies. And, quite honestly, the only person getting hurt by Portis' guarantees in this uncapped year is the guy writing the pay checks. That is the standard operating procedure for the Redskins. They are willing to use cash-on-hand to work creative strategies to evade the salary cap. I'm sure they looked at 2010, decided it would likely be uncapped, and said they would take the hit, even if Portis did not produce, in order to get under the cap in 2008. They don't often spend wisely, but in terms of strictly working in the margins of salary cap regulations I do not think there are many better.

Posted by: Ehren | October 7, 2010 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Yes, he's done. He should have been out last year. Running backs are a dime a dozen.

Posted by: Trout1 | October 7, 2010 3:45 PM | Report abuse

"teh"?????? guess your one of those who try to spell it "teh" instead of "the".

another word so misspelled is "probably",

most hillbilly's swear its spelled "prolly".

Posted by: snyper94z28 | October 7, 2010 5:44 PM | Report abuse

People,people,people! All NFL teams get a list of all college players at the begining of the season and they then scout them. How many players who were picked from that list stll play their positions that they were drafted for? The Skins owners should have a better scouting progam then they have now. Larry Brown was a walk on, without any college back ground. Kilmer started out as a half back, Pat Fisher tipped the scales at 195 lbs at 5ft. 9 inches tall. There is a lot of raw unmolded energy just waiting for someone to find them and teach them what they need to konw. The Skins owners have always had the mind set of getting experienced players, (The Future is Now Players) where has it gotten them. If they scout for people who are not spoiled and have some sense on how the game is played, then way not bring them along into their system as youngsters to learn the system, instead of having to retrain or reschool older players. The young players will learn from the ground up, and from day one they will know what is expected of them. The military takes raw recruits, some who have never handled a weapon, and molds them into a team, and every member knows his job plus the Jobs of every other member, why wouldn't it work for the Skins?

Posted by: johnpwalsh1 | October 7, 2010 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Hold on a second.Kilmer was a running quarterback from UCLA,who played first for the 49ers,then the Saints.Fischer was listed at 5-9,170.Larry Brown played at Kansas State,mostly as a blocking back for Mack Herron,who,I believe,played in Canada before going to the Patriots.Brown was limited early on because he had hearing loss in one ear.Lombardi had him outfitted with a special helmet that helped him.
Your overall point is a good one,though.For a good athlete,football is not that difficult a game to learn to play.

Posted by: seanmg | October 7, 2010 11:07 PM | Report abuse

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