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Redskins not yet concerned about carries for Clinton Portis, Larry Johnson and Willie Parker

In Bobby Turner's 14 seasons coaching running backs with the Denver Broncos, six players rushed for more than 1,000 yards in a season. Now the running backs coach in Washington, Turner has three players who have already recorded 1,000-yard seasons at different points in their careers: Clinton Portis, Larry Johnson and Willie Parker. While each still believes he can regain past form after a down year in 2009, it could ultimately be a juggling act for coaches.

"That's the least of our concerns right now," Turner said recently, when asked about dealing with the personalities of the three running backs. "We want them competing and we're still installing, meaning we're still putting in our offense. That's the least of my concerns right now. Once we decide who makes the team and you start game-planning, that's a different a deal. But that's so far down the line."

Turner was finally able to see his backfield trio during the team's recent minicamp. Each of the three has been to two Pro Bowls. At 28, Portis is the youngest of the group but has the most carries. Parker, 29, has the fewest carries, but also the fewest yards-per-carry. Asked how the team might juggle three running backs, offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan said, "just give them all the ball."

"It's very rare that you have just one back and that one back plays in all 16 games," Shanahan said. "So to have three backs is going to make all three of them better. It's a matter of time, but all three of them will help us.

When asked a similar question, Portis also said he did not think there would be an issue finding carries for each player. He took solace in the fact that each rusher is different -- although there are only so many carries to go around.

"Some people say you can never have too much, and some people say there are not enough balls to go around," Portis said. "But I think the situation will work itself out, and I think everyone will add a different dimension to help this team win."

Each player must adjust to the zone-blocking scheme that allowed Turner's rushers to experience success in Denver. Turner did not believe there was a significant learning curve with the scheme, but the major adjustment could come with the players accepting the role that Shanahan discussed.

"Even though they're from different systems, different teams, when it comes down to it, running backs have to have instincts," Turner said. "He has to be able to run for us, he has to be able to block, catch, play without the ball in the hands. If there's one adjustment they need to make, it's not being the guy. To me, that's the only adjustment. Everything else is a no-brainer for me."

Portis played for Turner for two seasons and averaged 5.5 yards per carry while eclipsing 1,500 yards each year. Portis has never averaged more than 4.3 yards per carry in six seasons with the Redskins and has topped 1,500 yards just once in Washington.

Turner wanted to reserve his evaluation of Portis until he watches him for more than three days and reaches a better conclusion about Portis's development since the two last worked together. "You can't say, Okay, he's this and he's that compared to X number of years ago," Turner said. "I mean, I'm not the same as X number of years ago. But I know he has the same heart. I see who someone who's tough, who wants to compete and still sees himself as a starter. And not only Clinton -- all those players."

Which brings Turner back to fundamental question surrounding the three running backs: How will the carries be distributed so that all three are happy? Those answers did not emerge in April. With more than three months until the preseason begins, Turner still has time. He said right now it's not among his top concerns, but soon enough it will be.

"Overall, I'm happy with the way they've practiced," Turner said following the first minicamp. "In the big picture, we're going to have some little mistakes here and there. But overall, the big picture is, I like everybody's attitude. I like the way they practiced, the guys handled themselves like pros, and that's what I was looking for.

"Now, when you get into what each one can do best, I wasn't looking for that. I was looking for their attitudes, their hustle, and the bottom line is I came away pleased. Because I want them competing. I want competition at the position. We want competition at the position."

By Zach Berman  |  April 28, 2010; 6:00 AM ET
Categories:  Clinton Portis , Kyle Shanahan , Larry Johnson , Minicamp  
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FIRST to predict Larry Johnson will be starter and Portis will be sent packing. Book it.

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 28, 2010 6:26 AM | Report abuse

Look what I just found:

Top Ten Quarterbacks in Madden NFL 11 by Overall Rating

1. Peyton Manning

2. Drew Brees

3. Tom Brady

4. Aaron Rodgers

5. Philip Rivers

6. Brett Favre

7. Ben Roethlisberger

8. Donovan McNabb

9. Tony Romo

10. Matt Schaub

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Not bad...I would put McNabb over Big Ben, and I think Rodgers is at least a couple spots too high, but otherwise it shapes up about right.

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 28, 2010 6:35 AM | Report abuse

Parker has the least miles on him, and can take it to the house. I think he makes the team. CP might be the odd man out. Though I think the chances of all 3 making it are slim, thats quite a backfield.

Posted by: FedorEm | April 28, 2010 6:35 AM | Report abuse

Ryan Torain - if he stays healthy - will end up being the starter on this team before seasons end.

Mike Shanahan didn't personally scout and recruit the guy in Denver, and now here, because he didn't think he would fit his system.

On the contrary, Mike said Torain is “one of the most gifted running backs I’ve been around, and I’ve been around for a long time, very similar to Terrell Davis when he came in.”

Posted by: PCinOz | April 28, 2010 6:41 AM | Report abuse

Good call PC...I totally forgot about him.

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 28, 2010 6:48 AM | Report abuse

Backup running backs play special teams. Can't see Parker, Portis or Johnson playing punts or kicks. One of them should go by trade for a defensive back or future pick - at least 3rd round. Skins will sign a young free agent RB to backup the remaining two. Portis highwaying it out of town would be great - need to cut our ties with players who felt they were entitled over the years.

Posted by: getitritegov | April 28, 2010 6:50 AM | Report abuse

The running game got a new set retreads on and some stickers in the trunk. Did I miss anyone?

Williams, Keiland RB
Greer, Maurice RB
Alridge, Anthony RB
Hill, P.J. RB
Johnson, Larry RB
Morris, Dennis FB/TE
Parker, Willie RB
Portis, Clinton RB
Sellers, Mike FB
Torain, Ryan RB
Young, Darrel RB

Posted by: 2ndtierfan | April 28, 2010 6:55 AM | Report abuse

"Redskins not yet concerned about carries for Clinton Portis, Larry Johnson and Willie Parker."

By Zach Berman | April 28, 2010; 6:00 AM ET

Well today is Wednesday and the game isn't until this Sunday, I bet we'll here something by this Saturday.

Posted by: Diesel44 | April 28, 2010 7:01 AM | Report abuse

First Madden review of the year:

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/108/1086196p1.html

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 28, 2010 7:27 AM | Report abuse

Considering the fact that Shanahan unloaded Portis to the Redskins, I would think that he's be the odd man out. If Shanny didn't think highly enough to keep him there then why would he have a different opinion now? Besides as someone pointed out, Portis was a problem in the locker room and the main person on the team who thought he was above everyone else.

Posted by: bullwinkle1 | April 28, 2010 7:46 AM | Report abuse

Considering the fact that Shanahan unloaded Portis to the Redskins, I would think that he's be the odd man out. If Shanny didn't think highly enough to keep him there then why would he have a different opinion now? Besides as someone pointed out, Portis was a problem in the locker room and the main person on the team who thought he was above everyone else.

Posted by: bullwinkle1 | April 28, 2010 7:47 AM | Report abuse

Don't know why anyone should worry about any of these backs not getting enough carries. Given their records to date, we can safely assume that Parker will probably be injured, Portis will be a no show for much of the season, and Johnson will probably be in jail. In sum, the new draftee -- and some as yet unannounced free agent signing -- will getting most of the carries.

Posted by: Vic1 | April 28, 2010 7:50 AM | Report abuse

Considering the fact that Shanahan unloaded Portis to the Redskins, I would think that he's be the odd man out. If Shanny didn't think highly enough to keep him there then why would he have a different opinion now? Besides as someone pointed out, Portis was a problem in the locker room and the main person on the team who thought he was above everyone else.

Posted by: bullwinkle1 | April 28, 2010 7:47 AM |

Well if you have some dumb a$$ team offering you a pro bowl level CB and a 2nd round pick, it makes that choice much easier.

Shanny new he could plug in other RB's in his system who would do just as well as Portis.

So I'm not sure he will get rid of him here just because he got rid of him in Denver.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 28, 2010 7:53 AM | Report abuse

It would be funny as hell if CP got shipped off to Oakland, LOL

Don't see it happening though....

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | April 28, 2010 7:54 AM | Report abuse

Im also NOT YET CONCERNED about are sinking economy? How unprofessional to assume that these three guys would not get along before the first pre-season game. I don't know if any of these dudes are able to be the feature back at this point in their careers. Unless you got some sources that indicate that these dudes don't want to share and be good teammates? The comments from the players seem to indicate otherwise. Why not post a headline that is descriptive of the story and not one to lead people towards a fake controversy. Washington Post is like a TMZ wanna-be with this blog.

Posted by: MajorFacemask | April 28, 2010 8:02 AM | Report abuse

"Redskins not yet concerned about carries for Clinton Portis, Larry Johnson and Willie Parker"



I not worried, either.

Moe goes with the Portis/Parker backfield.

They are kinda the same back, the difference is one is more power, the other more speed.

And then, in 2011, when M Ingraham leaves Bama, he takes their place.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 28, 2010 8:04 AM | Report abuse

bullwinkle, Shanahan didn't get rid of Portis because he didn't like him, he got rid of him because CP wanted more money after just two years on the job and Denver didn't wanna pay him. And for good reason...RBs are a dime a dozen in general, much more so when talking about the Shanahan offense. Not to mention he got a 2nd round pick AND an elite cover corner for a guy he didn't need anyway.

So while I think Shanahan might be less inclined to put up with Portis' antics than another coach who's never coached him before, I don't necessarily think it's a lock that he'll be the first man to go if a decision has to be made.

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 28, 2010 8:07 AM | Report abuse

"It's one of those guys that you actually care about, and I think fans actually care about, so they'll watch Jason Campbell play in Oakland," Cooley said. "People just like him. I mean, he's likable. Especially after all the hits he took, that guy could have quit after Week 10 and just said this is retarded, I'm not doing this any more. He just kept getting back up and playing for us."--STEINBERG, WaPo


Fans actually care about? Chris Cooley, meet some of the devoted despisers here on RI. On second thought, don't.

I'll be rooting for Campbell to succeed because he's a decent guy who went about his job professionally, and who had every right in the world to point the biggest finger of blame where it belonged--at "management" whcih never understood that QBS need an OLine more qualified than Pop Warner level.

Posted by: TheCork | April 28, 2010 8:17 AM | Report abuse

Fans actually care about? Chris Cooley, meet some of the devoted despisers here on RI. On second thought, don't.


Posted by: TheCork | April 28, 2010 8:17 AM


I think what he meant was "knowledgable" fans, not the "we suck...therefore so does our QB" crowd.

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 28, 2010 8:25 AM | Report abuse

Dear Miami Heat,

Thanks for the warm up, that was fun. Enjoy golfing.

- The Celtics

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 28, 2010 8:25 AM | Report abuse

Well today is Wednesday and the game isn't until this Sunday, I bet we'll here something by this Saturday.

Posted by: Diesel44


Are you wearing your Shane Matthews jersey to the game?

Posted by: RedDMV | April 28, 2010 8:27 AM | Report abuse

Dear Boston Celtics,

Come see us, we're waiting for your old asses.

-The Cavs

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 28, 2010 8:31 AM | Report abuse

Dear Miami Heat,

Thanks for the warm up, that was fun. Enjoy golfing.

- The Celtics

Posted by: BeantownGreg1

LOL! Congrats, you get the Cavs.

Now you'll be joining them in about 2 weeks.

Posted by: RedDMV | April 28, 2010 8:32 AM | Report abuse

haha, haters...while the cavs will be a challenge, they're not going to walk over the Celts...should be a good series...

ray allen is on fiah......

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 28, 2010 8:35 AM | Report abuse

Fans actually care about? Chris Cooley, meet some of the devoted despisers here on RI. On second thought, don't.


Posted by: TheCork | April 28, 2010 8:17 AM


I think what he meant was "knowledgable" fans, not the "we suck...therefore so does our QB" crowd.

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 28, 2010 8:25 AM | Report abuse


Fellas, let it go.

I'm sure you can find some great Raiders blogs if you want to keep the JC Flame alive.

Posted by: p1funk | April 28, 2010 8:35 AM | Report abuse

Something tells me though that a younger back will end up playing a major role for us this season. Torain, Alridge, Williams? Whichever of them makes the team.

Posted by: FedorEm | April 28, 2010 8:36 AM | Report abuse

Considering the fact that Shanahan unloaded Portis to the Redskins, I would think that he's be the odd man out. If Shanny didn't think highly enough to keep him there then why would he have a different opinion now? Besides as someone pointed out, Portis was a problem in the locker room and the main person on the team who thought he was above everyone else.

Posted by: bullwinkle1 | April 28, 2010 7:46 AM | Report abuse


If Portis were the odd man out, I think he'd have been cut along with the Randle El-Griffin-Cartwright group.

Shanny knows that CP put up beaucoup production in the scheme, and it's the smart move to keep him around, bring in some competition and see what he's got left.

They've already pretty much said that everyone will share carries, so the entitlement days are clearly done. Now it's up to him to just focus on playing well and playing nice with the other children.

Posted by: p1funk | April 28, 2010 8:40 AM | Report abuse

Beware the Tampa Rays.........

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 28, 2010 8:41 AM | Report abuse

Dear NBA,

Your product sucks. You've ruined your sport with atrocious WWE-style refereeing and guaranteed contracts.

-America

Posted by: p1funk | April 28, 2010 8:43 AM | Report abuse

moe, those cats are FOR REAL. They can do it all, pitching, defense, power, speed, and they're not going away either, they're really young.

p1, agreed, Cuban was pissed about the NFL Draft outdrawing the NBA playoffs. Suck it Cuban...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 28, 2010 8:48 AM | Report abuse

Something tells me though that a younger back will end up playing a major role for us this season. Torain, Alridge, Williams? Whichever of them makes the team.

Posted by: FedorEm


Torain is coming back from a ACL injury but Mike Shanahan calls him a "One of the most gifted backs I've been around" and then compares him to Terrell Davis.

Aldridge had fumbling problems in the preseason and in training camp last year but has that speed burst that's been lacking for so long.

I don't know Williams, my bad.. too lazy to look him up.


Did you mean P.J. Hill?

Posted by: RedDMV | April 28, 2010 8:51 AM | Report abuse

First Madden review of the year:

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/108/1086196p1.html

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 28, 2010 7:27 AM | Report abuse

Sounds like they are continuing to make it worse.

Thats total propaganda right there.

"Some people don't like picking their own plays, knowing the playbook"

WHO?!?! Thats the best part of football video games, you learn the play books and master a system.

Posted by: alex35332 | April 28, 2010 8:54 AM | Report abuse

Fellas, let it go.

I'm sure you can find some great Raiders blogs if you want to keep the JC Flame alive.

Posted by: p1funk | April 28, 2010 8:35 AM


Read the whole thread, dude...it's all a response to a Cooley quote. The only way that resurrects the JC debate is if someone comes up here looking to resurrect it.

Agree with you on CP...if he was definitely gonna go, he'd be gone already. But if he gets outplayed by LJ and Fast Willie, you pretty much HAVE to get him outta here...I don't see him responding well to falling 3rd on the depth chart.

Besides, he can't play special teams. And the last time he had to tackle someone it was HIS shoulder that got messed up...

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 28, 2010 8:55 AM | Report abuse

Who will win Game 7?
Canadiens
29%
Capitals
70%


Funny poll,how can anyone really think the Capitals will beat the children of "Ice"

Posted by: abxinc | April 28, 2010 8:58 AM | Report abuse

I don't know Williams, my bad.. too lazy to look him up.


Did you mean P.J. Hill?

Posted by: RedDMV | April 28, 2010 8:51 AM | Report abuse

Keiland Williams. Forget where he went to school. But he is on our roster.

Posted by: FedorEm | April 28, 2010 8:59 AM | Report abuse

I can think of 6 million + reasons why they haven't let him go. Got to pay him so let's get some miles out of him.

Don’t ya think CP needs to get rid of those pirate ear rings.

Posted by: 2ndtierfan | April 28, 2010 9:00 AM | Report abuse

p1, agreed, Cuban was pissed about the NFL Draft outdrawing the NBA playoffs. Suck it Cuban...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 28, 2010 8:48 AM | Report abuse


I tried, Bean. I really did.

But about 2 years ago, I just came to my breaking point and I couldn't stomach NBA anymore.

I'd watch playoff games and it got the point where I could predict if a guy was going to get a call or not based what the name was on the back of the jersey.

LeBron is the new icon, and I can't stand him. Great talent, but one of the most petulant coddled I-need-every-call-or-I'm-going-to-grimace-and-pout-at-the-ref babies I can ever remember seeing on the floor. Dude, win at least one ring before acting like you're Mike. If that's the future of the game I'll opt out.

In DC, the whole Gilbert Arenas thing really underscored the problem of coddling superstars, giving them giant contracts and then watching them sink a team.

Posted by: p1funk | April 28, 2010 9:00 AM | Report abuse

I'm looking forward to the Port-a-John backfield. Willie can then come in and clean up.

Posted by: skinfanman | April 28, 2010 9:04 AM | Report abuse

Sounds like they are continuing to make it worse.

Thats total propaganda right there.

"Some people don't like picking their own plays, knowing the playbook"

WHO?!?! Thats the best part of football video games, you learn the play books and master a system.

Posted by: alex35332 | April 28, 2010 8:54 AM


Completely agree. I hate how they're trying to cater to "casual fans" when it's the die-hards that A) know their stuff when they buy the game and B) are the ones who are shelling out the 60 bucks to get it on an annual basis.

I'll bet what happened was a couple clowns who like the game but don't buy it go over to a friend's house, get mauled 63-0, and then b*tch on message boards about how hard the game is. I say F-ing buy your own copy and learn it if you don't wanna get your taint handed to you by your drinking buddies.

So F the "casual fans".

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 28, 2010 9:05 AM | Report abuse

pfunk, I totally agree on the NBA...I used to be a HUGE fan of NBA basketball in the 90s--to the point that my brother and I play a drinking game where we list as many random 90s NBA benchwarmers as we can...we can go for a good long while, even now--but after the lockout and a series of boring Spurs championships, I had enough.

The nail in the coffin came when I watched the NBA draft and didn't know ANY of the people coming off the board in the 1st round. It used to be you'd know a lot of the guys getting drafted because you watched 'em play in college. But with the influx of European players and high school kids, you have to be an f-ing scout to be able to follow the game anymore.

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 28, 2010 9:11 AM | Report abuse

Beware the Tampa Rays.........

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 28, 2010 8:41 AM | Report abuse

Best post ever Moe.. Never thought I would see a "Beware the Tampa Rays" post (on a skins blog at that!)..

Best team in Baseball! If anyone has the MLB package, do yourself a favor and check out a game or two... The starting rotation is nasty.

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 28, 2010 9:12 AM | Report abuse

Sounds like they are continuing to make it worse.

Thats total propaganda right there.

"Some people don't like picking their own plays, knowing the playbook"

WHO?!?! Thats the best part of football video games, you learn the play books and master a system.

Posted by: alex35332 | April 28, 2010 8:54 AM


Completely agree. I hate how they're trying to cater to "casual fans" when it's the die-hards that A) know their stuff when they buy the game and B) are the ones who are shelling out the 60 bucks to get it on an annual basis.

I'll bet what happened was a couple clowns who like the game but don't buy it go over to a friend's house, get mauled 63-0, and then b*tch on message boards about how hard the game is. I say F-ing buy your own copy and learn it if you don't wanna get your taint handed to you by your drinking buddies.

So F the "casual fans".


Posted by: brownwood26 | April 28, 2010 9:05 AM | Report abuse

So how do you really feel?

Posted by: Buckleycj | April 28, 2010 9:12 AM | Report abuse

Again fair weather haters get off of Portis's jock the problem was not Portis it was a culture of losing!!!!!!!!!!!!!He did his part and then some to help this team win, now they are moving in the right directionn and Portis has quietly participated in the off season program..

Posted by: BeatDontStop | April 28, 2010 9:12 AM | Report abuse

Haha Buckley...I'm pretty serious about my Madden.

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 28, 2010 9:22 AM | Report abuse

LOL...ESPN just ran some old draft footage of Mel Kiper saying that JaMarcus Russell could be one of the top 5 QBs in the NFL by his 3rd year in the league. Hahahahaha! Good call, Mel! ROFLMAO!

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 28, 2010 9:31 AM | Report abuse

Ryan Torain - if he stays healthy - will end up being the starter on this team before seasons end.

Mike Shanahan didn't personally scout and recruit the guy in Denver, and now here, because he didn't think he would fit his system.

On the contrary, Mike said Torain is “one of the most gifted running backs I’ve been around, and I’ve been around for a long time, very similar to Terrell Davis when he came in.”

Posted by: PCinOz | April 28, 2010 6:41 AM | Report abuse

The question, though, is how much have his knee injuries taken away from him.

Posted by: rbpalmer | April 28, 2010 9:32 AM | Report abuse

F the "how do you really feel line"

Yes please give us milktoast pablum spin and psuedo niceties rather passionate and informed opinions....

Gag

bring it or go cruise oprah dot com

Posted by: chrislarry | April 28, 2010 9:33 AM | Report abuse

Uh oh...Schefter says the Jags and Cowboys are lining up visits with Darren Sharper. Sure hope the Skins throw their hat in the ring...

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 28, 2010 9:35 AM | Report abuse

Top Ten Quarterbacks in Madden NFL 11 by Overall Rating

1. Peyton Manning

2. Drew Brees

3. Tom Brady

4. Aaron Rodgers

5. Philip Rivers

6. Brett Favre

7. Ben Roethlisberger

8. Donovan McNabb

9. Tony Romo

10. Matt Schaub

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Not bad...I would put McNabb over Big Ben, and I think Rodgers is at least a couple spots too high, but otherwise it shapes up about right.

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 28, 2010 6:35 AM | Report abuse
=================================
Agreed..
But, wheres the Badden NFL List?

I'd put JaCarcass at the top.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 28, 2010 9:35 AM | Report abuse

Sharper will stay a Saint. Book it!

Posted by: chrislarry | April 28, 2010 9:36 AM | Report abuse

Uh oh...Schefter says the Jags and Cowboys are lining up visits with Darren Sharper. Sure hope the Skins throw their hat in the ring...

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 28, 2010 9:35 AM
=============================================
so says the "leak" from Sharper's agent.

Usually when you hear of the impending visit its an Agent trying to start the bidding war. If the visit is initiated by the team.. no disclosure occurs per the request of the hosting team.

Sharper's better days are behind him.. His picks last year were not worth his overall liability.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 28, 2010 9:40 AM | Report abuse

Portis played for Turner for two seasons and averaged 5.5 yards per carry while eclipsing 1,500 yards each year. Portis has never averaged more than 4.3 yards per carry in six seasons with the Redskins and has topped 1,500 yards just once in Washington.

By: Zach

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

There we go again with picking and choosing facts to fit ones argument.......

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 28, 2010 9:40 AM | Report abuse

There's the mantra that defines this team: "Competition at the Position." And I LIKE IT!

Posted by: DCV1 | April 28, 2010 9:46 AM | Report abuse

Sharper's better days are behind him.. His picks last year were not worth his overall liability.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 28, 2010 9:40 AM


While the first sentence is likely true, I don't get where you're going with the last one. Care to explain how a Pro-Bowl FS who was an obvious leader on a Super Bowl team is a "liability"?

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 28, 2010 9:47 AM | Report abuse

Jags, Cowboys emerge as potential suitors for Darren Sharper
Posted by Mike Florio on April 28, 2010 9:30 AM ET
Last night, we reported that two teams are interested in free-agent safety Darren Sharper, beyond the team with which he played in 2009.

Adam Schefter of ESPN reports that the two teams are the Jaguars and the Cowboys.

Per Schefter, Sharper will visit the Jaguars today. If he doesn't do a deal with Jacksonville, Dallas could be the next destination.

Neither team added a safety via the draft. With the Cowboys hoping to overcome the Saints and play in the Super Bowl that will be hosted in their home stadium next February, Sharper would bring both ability and an intimate knowledge of the New Orleans offense and defense.

Though the Cowboys fall within the scope of the "Final Eight Plan," they don't face the same restrictions as the teams that qualified for conference title games.

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 28, 2010 9:51 AM | Report abuse

"Sharper's better days are behind him.. His picks last year were not worth his overall liability.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM

While the first sentence is likely true, I don't get where you're going with the last one. Care to explain how a Pro-Bowl FS who was an obvious leader on a Super Bowl team is a "liability"?

Posted by: brownwood26

Co-sign. Brownie....a liability? If I am the Skins I wouldnt sign him, but to claim that Sharper was anything but a huge difference making positive (last time I checked he was the key change in a defense that kept saints out of playoffs to SB Champ..) to the saints last season should be spend their sundays at a stitch-n-biitch sewing circle rather than watching football.

Posted by: chrislarry | April 28, 2010 9:54 AM | Report abuse

Maybe Phillip Buchanon and Lendy Holmes play FS for us. Ryan Clark was a FA this year, and has played in the Steeler version of the 3-4. We bypassed safety in the draft. I think the coaches believe we've got enough on the roster.

Posted by: MadeRED | April 28, 2010 9:54 AM | Report abuse

Like someone said above. All 3 can't make the team because none of them play STs. So atleast one will be the odd man out. Thought it's too early for them to determine, it's never too early for RI.

That being said, Willie Parker will be the odd man out. He's no longer Fast and that's all he had. He wasn't the best receving back nor blocking back.

As far as LJ, I am not quite sure about his blocking and receiving skills either. But, I do believe he may have something in the tank for atleast one year, where he would want to prove all his detractors from KC and The Media wrong.......

Portis has shown he can block and catch the ball well. I think he's the best blocking RB we have, and maybe receiving back too.

Ryan Torrain has great potential, but as no one has yet pointed out he has had consistent injury history dating back to his college years. He was injured his rookie year in '08. And tore his ACL in Training Camp 09 and was injured reserve.

So, no way they will get rid of Portis IMHO.

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 28, 2010 9:54 AM | Report abuse

Let Sharper go to Dallas so his age can show.

No to Darren Sharper to the Skins.....There's a chance this last surgery can be the one to do him in.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 28, 2010 9:57 AM | Report abuse

Sharper's better days are behind him.. His picks last year were not worth his overall liability.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 28, 2010 9:40 AM


While the first sentence is likely true, I don't get where you're going with the last one. Care to explain how a Pro-Bowl FS who was an obvious leader on a Super Bowl team is a "liability"?

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 28, 2010 9:47 AM |
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He's good at being a ball hawk.. Horrible in Pass and Run coverage...
3-4 liability.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 28, 2010 10:00 AM | Report abuse

i wont be shocked if they keep all three RBs...I really wont.

Posted by: chrislarry | April 28, 2010 10:02 AM | Report abuse

So F the "casual fans".
Posted by: brownwood26 | April 28, 2010 9:05 AM | Report abuse

To me the things that get me is they put cool stuff in on the back end (non-gameplay) every few years and then they take out something else I like.

For example.
Madden 2001 had a game mode where you could play a franchise in a league with 8-12-16-24 teams. 30 seasons, drafts, conferences you name it. It was so cool being able to do an "original" conference with just the early NFL era teams or just first 8 AFL teams. GONE

Owner Mode was a lot of fun but they keep making it worse and they may have somewhat re-designed the stadium and uniform creators but they are still not as good as they could be if they put the effort into it.

Also in Madden 2002, knowing that an expansion team was coming *not announced, they let you create a franchise from scratch.

That back end stuff was frigging sweet. I would love all that back. I got to a point where I find NCAA games more fun for the most part anyway, they are harder in terms of strategy and recruiting.

I really wish there was a single game that was "the world of football" High School, College, Pros even minor leagues. I know there are issues with rules being different and what have you. I want a single football game where you could create a high school kid watch him develop from 15-18, get recruited, get drafted retire at 38 and become a head coach in the game.

Posted by: alex35332 | April 28, 2010 10:02 AM | Report abuse

I really wish there was a single game that was "the world of football" High School, College, Pros even minor leagues. I know there are issues with rules being different and what have you. I want a single football game where you could create a high school kid watch him develop from 15-18, get recruited, get drafted retire at 38 and become a head coach in the game.

Posted by: alex35332 | April 28, 2010 10:02 AM | Report abuse

If they gave you everything you wanted, then why would you buy the 2012 game?

These guys are slick I tell ya!

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 28, 2010 10:09 AM | Report abuse

"Sharper's better days are behind him.. His picks last year were not worth his overall liability.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM

While the first sentence is likely true, I don't get where you're going with the last one. Care to explain how a Pro-Bowl FS who was an obvious leader on a Super Bowl team is a "liability"?

Posted by: brownwood26

Sharper's better days are behind him.. His picks last year were not worth his overall liability.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 28, 2010 9:40 AM

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He's good at being a ball hawk.. Horrible in Pass and Run coverage...
3-4 liability.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 28, 2010 10:00 AM

Co-sign. Brownie....a liability? If I am the Skins I wouldnt sign him, but to claim that Sharper was anything but a huge difference making positive (last time I checked he was the key change in a defense that kept saints out of playoffs to SB Champ..) to the saints last season should be spend their sundays at a stitch-n-biitch sewing circle rather than watching football.

Posted by: chrislarry | April 28, 2010 9:54 AM
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yeah..glad Shanny is in charge and not you guys..... There is plenty of video out there of Sharper missing crucial tackles and coverage...while waiting to "ball hawk" an interception.
In past years.. Snyder and Vinny would of snapped Sharper up.. And we would of watched his unofficial "I got snyder money retirement" on the field holding the team "hostage" for the next 3 years like dozens or so other overpaid Snyder Free Agents in the past. Free Agents who lit it up in their Free Agent year and then disappeared once they hit the "Snyder lottery".

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 28, 2010 10:12 AM | Report abuse

If they gave you everything you wanted, then why would you buy the 2012 game?

These guys are slick I tell ya!

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 28, 2010 10:09 AM | Report abuse

It is their marketing plan, I know. Sad in a way, they continue to go down hill in terms of quality since EA got exclusive rights to the NFL.

Remember how before when EA was fighting with 2K and others each year to put out the best football video game? Each side actually tried to be better and were making game of the year quality games. Fing capitalism screwing over free market competition.

Posted by: alex35332 | April 28, 2010 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Dear Miami Heat,

Thanks for the warm up, that was fun. Enjoy golfing.

- The Celtics

Posted by: BeantownGreg1

LOL! Congrats, you get the Cavs.

Now you'll be joining them in about 2 weeks.

Posted by: RedDMV | April 28, 2010 8:32 AM | Report abuse
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The Lakers are going to take everyone down.

Posted by: skinsfan713 | April 28, 2010 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Hey skinsneeda....I guess you missed this line I typed: "If I am the Skins I wouldnt sign him"

And after your bellyached like a school girl who didn't get asked to the 6th grade sock-hop all weekend how bad the new regime did in the draft maybe I would be better....

Posted by: chrislarry | April 28, 2010 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Boobquake causes magnitude 6.5 earthquake off the coast of Taiwan.

This does NOT prove that exposed cleavage causes earthquakes.

It DOES prove that Taiwanese are synchronized wankers.


Chris Cooley telling it like it was. Zoron is not qualified to be an OC let alone a HC.

Posted by: dpc2003 | April 28, 2010 10:25 AM | Report abuse

Remember how before when EA was fighting with 2K and others each year to put out the best football video game? Each side actually tried to be better and were making game of the year quality games. Fing capitalism screwing over free market competition.

Posted by: alex35332 | April 28, 2010 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Agreed my friend.. Although, EA does puts out a pretty good product IMO.

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 28, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Cooley just left a boot still up Zorn's azz...wow. 100% correct though.

Posted by: chrislarry | April 28, 2010 10:31 AM | Report abuse

I hear ya Alex...I'm big into the Franchise Mode and it was great on PS2 but when I made the change to PS3 a couple years back, it was garbage. It's much better now, but it still has quite a bit of work to do to catch up to how good it was on PS2 after they added the training camp mode.

That's what chaps my ass about the catering to "casual fans"...they put so much into the graphics and gameplay (which is good), that they don't go all in on the more advanced stuff like franchise mode--which keeps the die-hards busy and keeps 'em coming back for more.

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 28, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Cooley just left a boot still up Zorn's azz...wow. 100% correct though.

Posted by: chrislarry | April 28, 2010 10:31 AM | Report abuse

You just reminded me of this clip..

The dude is bat sh!t crazy... and I love it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvIX3S0f-2c

Check him out at the 1:35 mark..

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 28, 2010 10:38 AM | Report abuse

ESPN just reported that the Saints, Cowboys, and Jaguars are in the Darren Sharper hunt. If safety and turnover-creation are areas of concern for the Skins, why aren't they pursuing him?

Posted by: TBDog | April 28, 2010 10:39 AM | Report abuse

The Lakers are going to take everyone down.

Posted by: skinsfan713 | April 28, 2010 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Of course they are.

Between Kobe bryant and Phil Jackson, league favortism slants heavily in their direction.

Maybe this is the year where Lebron favortism overtakes them.

But that's pretty much the only drama involved in the playoffs.

Because when you have good teams that can play defense and make shots, the deciding factor will be - "which superstar will get the calls down the stretch and put his team over the edge".

Posted by: p1funk | April 28, 2010 10:41 AM | Report abuse

If they don't fix the O line, it won't matter which of the 3 go 2 yards and a cloud of dust now does it?

Posted by: KDSmallJr | April 28, 2010 10:41 AM | Report abuse

This is from the Steinbog interview with Cooley:

"The offense is just a little more advanced from the last offense," he said. "It's still the same terminology, which is nice for me. So all the formations are called the same, a lot of the routes are called the same. It's adding extra elements to everything. We don't run the same plays out of the same formations every time. You kind of have to learn concepts of the offense, because you're doing different things all the time. Last year I ran like seven routes, total. So it's a more involved kind of moving everyone, getting everyone to know what they do type of offense."

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I wanna know where the idiot is who was up here yesterday saying "Last time I checked, coaches don't win games; players win games." It's time for you to check again. Start by checking with Chris Cooley. You don't have to be a League-Source to figure out how wrong you were.

Posted by: beep-beep | April 28, 2010 10:44 AM | Report abuse

And if, God forbid, Rex Grossman is standing behind center because McNabb is hurt/imploding, it might be 1 yard. Then, it's a mid season trade or cutting of this dead wood.

Posted by: KDSmallJr | April 28, 2010 10:44 AM | Report abuse

He's good at being a ball hawk.. Horrible in Pass and Run coverage...
3-4 liability.


Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 28, 2010 10:00 AM


That flushing sound is the last shred of your credibility going down the sh*tter.

If a guy is a "ball-hawk" and has 9 INTs in a season (and 63 for his career), it stands to reason he's adept at playing the pass. Any coach will tell you that he'll live with a guy missing on a gamble here or there if he ends up with 9 picks and a couple TDs after it's all said and done. I don't know how he plays the run, but he's clearly one of the best in the business at playing the pass. Saying otherwise is retarded.

If you don't want the guy in burgundy and gold, just say so. But you don't have to make sh*t up to try and back up your position.

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 28, 2010 10:44 AM | Report abuse

Of course they are.

Between Kobe bryant and Phil Jackson, league favortism slants heavily in their direction.

Maybe this is the year where Lebron favortism overtakes them.

But that's pretty much the only drama involved in the playoffs.

Because when you have good teams that can play defense and make shots, the deciding factor will be - "which superstar will get the calls down the stretch and put his team over the edge".

Posted by: p1funk | April 28, 2010 10:41 AM | Report abuse
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Well, as a rabid Lakers fan (hey, I also used to live in Los Angeles), I certainly hope the Cavs don't overtake them, and I don't think they will - I've developed a healthy dislike of Lebron, his mouth, and his ego and would love to see him go down in flames again.

I don't think there's any favortism towards the Lakers, though. They get abused by the refs as such as anyone else (see: the free throw disparity in OKC in game 4 the other day). They may bring the highest ratings on TV, but I honestly don't think they get any more calls than any other team with superstars on court.

Posted by: skinsfan713 | April 28, 2010 10:47 AM | Report abuse

And if, God forbid, Rex Grossman is standing behind center because McNabb is hurt/imploding, it might be 1 yard. Then, it's a mid season trade or cutting of this dead wood.

Posted by: KDSmallJr | April 28, 2010 10:44 AM | Report abuse
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Good lord, isn't this the truth. I, for one, am praying that McNabb stays upright for the entire season, 'cause I think we're in trouble if Sexy Rex has to see the field. He was one of the most inconsistent starters that I've ever seen.

Posted by: skinsfan713 | April 28, 2010 10:54 AM | Report abuse

I don't think there's any favortism towards the Lakers, though. They get abused by the refs as such as anyone else (see: the free throw disparity in OKC in game 4 the other day). They may bring the highest ratings on TV, but I honestly don't think they get any more calls than any other team with superstars on court.

Posted by: skinsfan713 | April 28, 2010 10:47 AM | Report abuse


Yeah, Phil Jackson made a mistake opening his mouth trying to use his decades-old ref-manipulation techniques to complain about KD's free throws.

He didn't count on the Stern back-lash. Stern's NBA may be going down the toilet, but he's not stupid.

He knows that the cat is pretty much out of the bag regarding bad refereeing and ref-manipulation. So the pendulum swings back the other way on Phil Jackson - lesson learned:

Let the refs make their own atrocious calls and don't try to manipulate it the way everyone has been for the past 15 years.

Posted by: p1funk | April 28, 2010 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Maybe Phillip Buchanon and Lendy Holmes play FS for us. Ryan Clark was a FA this year, and has played in the Steeler version of the 3-4. We bypassed safety in the draft. I think the coaches believe we've got enough on the roster.

Posted by: MadeRED | April 28, 2010 9:54 AM | Report abuse

Don't forget about Kareen Moore. I like his hitting instincts and he could be that player that needed development. If that's the case I hope we let him play it out.

Posted by: Devo2 | April 28, 2010 11:00 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, Phil Jackson made a mistake opening his mouth trying to use his decades-old ref-manipulation techniques to complain about KD's free throws.

He didn't count on the Stern back-lash. Stern's NBA may be going down the toilet, but he's not stupid.

He knows that the cat is pretty much out of the bag regarding bad refereeing and ref-manipulation. So the pendulum swings back the other way on Phil Jackson - lesson learned:

Let the refs make their own atrocious calls and don't try to manipulate it the way everyone has been for the past 15 years.

Posted by: p1funk | April 28, 2010 10:55 AM | Report abuse
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He gets fined for his referee comments just about every year come playoff time. He didn't say anything he hasn't said a hundred times before, and Stern didn't do anything to him that he hasn't done before.

In my opinion, the gross free throw disparity had more to do with the intimidation of the OKC crowd more than it was revenge by the refs. They were pretty wild there, but not in an obnxious way (hello, Phillies and Eagles fans; hello, Nuggets fans). Who knows. Phil defintely got into KD's head during the beginning of the series, so I applaud him for that.

Posted by: skinsfan713 | April 28, 2010 11:03 AM | Report abuse

If a guy is a "ball-hawk" and has 9 INTs in a season (and 63 for his career), it stands to reason he's adept at playing the pass. Any coach will tell you that he'll live with a guy missing on a gamble here or there if he ends up with 9 picks and a couple TDs after it's all said and done. I don't know how he plays the run, but he's clearly one of the best in the business at playing the pass. Saying otherwise is retarded.

If you don't want the guy in burgundy and gold, just say so. But you don't have to make sh*t up to try and back up your position.

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 28, 2010 10:44 AM

Maybe because he is still available there are coaches that wont "live" with a guy who gambles for an INT. Could even be the NO coach??
Make sh-t up? Its the general consensus that he is, as I said, a ball-hawk but, that has a downside and its run coverage.. If you admit you dont know how he is with "Run coverage" why not research that before going bat sh-t over the guy.
He is not a good fit for a 3-4 scheme.

Glad Dan is being held in check by Shanny on this FA. It would of been a typical past Snyder FA Disaster.
On the other hand.. Hope Jerry Jones grabs him..

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 28, 2010 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Chris Cooley telling it like it was. Zoron is not qualified to be an OC let alone a HC.

Posted by: dpc2003 | April 28, 2010 10:25 AM

Link?

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 28, 2010 11:07 AM | Report abuse

"And if, God forbid, Rex Grossman is standing behind center because McNabb is hurt/imploding,..."

We have professional coaching, now.

So, if anything, McNabb will hand off more, and throw less.

Such a change should prolong his career and make him more durable.

If he throws for 3,600 yards, but Portis/Parkers rush for a combined 1,900, we'll be on the right track.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 28, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Link?

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 28, 2010 11:07 AM | Report abuse
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The Bog article on Cooley; on the Sports > Redskins homepage

Posted by: mattsoundworld | April 28, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Maybe because he is still available there are coaches that wont "live" with a guy who gambles for an INT. Could even be the NO coach??

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 28, 2010 11:06 AM


Dude, do your homework...the Saints want him back, they just don't wanna pay thru the nose to keep him. So they're letting him field offers and hoping that nobody can match what they've got for him on the table. Everybody else interested wanted to wait until after the draft to A) see if they could get their own Darren Sharper in the draft and B) see how his knee is after surgery. Now that the draft is over, you're starting to see teams give him a serious look.

Unless one of these late round/undrafted FS prospects gets really good in a hurry, FS is a hole on our roster. Getting Sharper as a 1 year stop gap only helps...there's literally no down side. Again--if you don't like him, that's fine...agree to disagree. Just don't sit there and tell me he's not a good player because that's horsesh*t.

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 28, 2010 11:16 AM | Report abuse

I don't think there's any favortism towards the Lakers, though. They get abused by the refs as such as anyone else (see: the free throw disparity in OKC in game 4 the other day). They may bring the highest ratings on TV, but I honestly don't think they get any more calls than any other team with superstars on court.

Posted by: skinsfan713 | April 28, 2010 10:47 AM | Report abuse


Don't worry, bro.

It will all equalize.

The refs will realize they aren't giving Kobe his due attention and the calls will swing.

Posted by: p1funk | April 28, 2010 11:18 AM | Report abuse

Vegas has us 12-1 to win the SB...not sure what to make of that.

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 28, 2010 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Darren Sharper?

No thanks.

Let's give one of our young safeties the time and space to develop his game.

Who knows?: we might luck into a Sharper type player on our roster.

But we'll never know if we keep sticking vets in front of the young'ns.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 28, 2010 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Spring in the North East SUCKS...it was just snowing a few moments ago...and before he chimes in on his weather, Moe, I hope your supply of blue pills runs out, and you run over your wallet with the lawn mower.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 28, 2010 11:22 AM | Report abuse

"FIRST to predict Larry Johnson will be starter and Portis will be sent packing. Book it."

That's my feeling as well.

Portis never had that surgery to remove bone spurs, I honestly can't see him being number one after all of those up the middle plays.

I recently saw him give an interview on TV crying about how "the fans have turned on him." Well Mr.Portis, you kind of did that to yourself with your attitude, throwing your team mates under the buss, and plain laziness.

Don't blame the fans for any of that.

Also, don't count out Parker. If he is as fast as he once was then that only means good things for the Redskins.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | April 28, 2010 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Lakers were a disgrace in game 4. Their play last night compared to that shows they do not try each time out. The refereeing is terrible as usual. Shaq got 2 fouls called on Brad Miller in 10 seconds last night. All he did was shove his big body into him in the post. It has to be a no call as he initiates all the contact. NBA isn't great but still beats all the reality bs on tv.

Posted by: ToddStinkston | April 28, 2010 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Vegas has us 12-1 to win the SB...not sure what to make of that.

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 28, 2010 11:21 AM | Report abuse
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Means gamblers like our chances.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | April 28, 2010 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Spring in the North East SUCKS...it was just snowing a few moments ago...and before he chimes in on his weather, Moe, I hope your supply of blue pills runs out, and you run over your wallet with the lawn mower.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 28, 2010 11:22 AM | Report abuse
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... while it's still in the jeans he's wearing. Supposed to be the start of my golf league today here in CT, but it's chilly and windy, and I can barely make the ball go where I want it to when the wind doesn't have a vote.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | April 28, 2010 11:27 AM | Report abuse

The Bog article on Cooley; on the Sports > Redskins homepage

Posted by: mattsoundworld | April 28, 2010 11:15 AM

Thanks just read it....

"The quarterback in my opinion is the most important position in sports," Cooley said. "And yeah, I love Jason and I think he's an awesome guy, I'm happy for where he is now, but Donovan is a guy that's proved to be a winner. He's proved to win. So you can't take that for granted. I think that's a huge step up for us in that position. "

So...Coooley throws JAson under the bus, but no one cares because it wasn't Portis doing it.....Funny...

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 28, 2010 11:27 AM | Report abuse

So...Coooley throws JAson under the bus, but no one cares because it wasn't Portis doing it.....Funny...

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 28, 2010 11:27 AM | Report abuse
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No one cares because the JC topic has been flogged to death, shot, sent to the glue factory, processed, packaged, sold, used, discarded, and decaying in a land-fill somewhere underneath a little league park somewhere in Kansas.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | April 28, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

matt, 80's this weekend....'allegedly'...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 28, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

At the very least we will play the guy or guys that can produce. None of this play the guy who is being payed so he's the starter even though he's getting tackled by his shoe strings and gets the falling foward for 2yards a carry. It's really refreshing to imagine this will be a reality. Yards per carry has to do with initial burst in my estimation. We had no burst last year.

Posted by: sthai75 | April 28, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Spring in the North East SUCKS...it was just snowing a few moments ago...and before he chimes in on his weather, Moe, I hope your supply of blue pills runs out, and you run over your wallet with the lawn mower.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 28, 2010 11:22 AM | Report abuse

If I can chime in...

My wife and I took my son swimming this past weekend (11 months) for the first time. I must say the pool was rather chilly (78 degrees) but come to think of it, my pool is actually warmer than most parts of the NE right now...

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 28, 2010 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Spring in the North East SUCKS...it was just snowing a few moments ago...and before he chimes in on his weather, Moe, I hope your supply of blue pills runs out, and you run over your wallet with the lawn mower.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1


I'm close to a thousand miles north, and it's sunny, clear blue skies and in the mid 50s.

Don't forget to grab your bama lookin' hello kitty mittens.

Posted by: RedDMV | April 28, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 28, 2010 11:27 AM


I dont know how that constitutes throwing anybody under the bus, but as msw pointed out, who the f cares?

Posted by: KingJoffeJoffer | April 28, 2010 11:38 AM | Report abuse

red, get it right, they're Star Wars Clone Wars mittens....idiot...

sfit, I hope you change a diaper today, and get it all over your clothes......

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 28, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

dont know how that constitutes throwing anybody under the bus, but as msw pointed out, who the f cares?

Posted by: KingJoffeJoffer | April 28, 2010 11:38 AM

My point exactly.....people pick and choose when to care.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 28, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse

matt, 80's this weekend....'allegedly'...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 28, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse
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Good. I will be stuck down in Long Island City at my fiance's niece's first communion showing fake support for someone pretending they are religious for a child who will inevitably find out she is the reason mommy and daddy got married.

Such hypocrisy demands good weather.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | April 28, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse

So...Coooley throws JAson under the bus, but no one cares because it wasn't Portis doing it.....Funny...

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 28, 2010 11:27 AM

I think no one cares because they're not teammates anymore. Cooley is talking up his teammates, which is what he's supposed to do. What's he supposed to say? "Oh, McNabb hasn't won a single game for us yet, so I just hope this was a good move"....?

Posted by: Alan4 | April 28, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Sharper is probably not interested in Skins. Shanny/Allen are only offering short-term incentive-laden contracts for guys like him.

Posted by: shanks1 | April 28, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

bean

"...I hope your supply of blue pills runs out, and you run over your wallet with the lawn mower..."


Actually, I tried opening the pill bottle in a dark room only to have about 20 erectile dysfunction tabs spill all over the place.

I thought I collected them all the next morning until I saw the family dog walking around the house with his thing harder than a calculus test.

mrsmoe saw it's length and thickness and complained, "What a waste, he's bigger than you."

I felt so bad for him that I took him to a local dog park hoping he could meet a fine b!tch and get a little tail.

Thing is, I didn't know he was a gay dog, and he choose to hook up with this pit bull named Ron Mexico who gave him herpes.

On the ride home, I asked him how it all felt being taken by a bigger, stronger animal.

Rough, he barked. Ruff, ruff, ruff.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 28, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Getting Sharper as a 1 year stop gap only helps...there's literally no down side. Again--if you don't like him, that's fine...agree to disagree. Just don't sit there and tell me he's not a good player because that's horsesh*t.

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 28, 2010 11:16 AM |
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why the personal reference, over and over about "if you dont like him"? This isnt a popularity contest..
I just dont think he is a good fit for the 3-4... And maybe Haslett agrees since he isnt chasing Sharper, either.
New Orleans seems to be willing to take a chance and not re-sign him. Possibly because Williams is also considering the 3-4 more than less next year? Half the league is going 3-4 next year.

The down-side is why invest huge money into a Free Agent that is just average in run coverage, and place him in a 3-4?

Pro Football Focus did a study on missed tackles, breaking down the Tackle Inefficiency Rating (T.I.R.) of every player at every position.
Darren Sharper of the Saints is 14th-worst in the NFL, tied Charles Godfrey of the Panthers. Or, essentially, average.

Harper missed on 10 of them to end up with a TIR of 11.11, which put him 35 spots lower than Bell.

His fellow Pro-Bowl safety and teammate, Sharper, attempted 30 fewer solo tackles (60), but missed the same number (10), resulting in a TIR of 16.67. Only 15 players recorded a poorer TIR on the season than Sharper.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 28, 2010 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Only 15 players recorded a poorer TIR on the season than Sharper.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 28, 2010 11:49 AM | Report abuse
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Lemme guess who was on that list... Landry?

Posted by: mattsoundworld | April 28, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Vegas has us 12-1 to win the SB...not sure what to make of that.

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 28, 2010 11:21 AM

I looked at the odds, last month, before the McNabb pickup. It was 30-1.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 28, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

"My point exactly.....people pick and choose when to care.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 28, 2010 11:42 AM"

Right, just like Cooley picked and chose to express this in the offseason and after Campbell had been traded (not to mention that Cooley actually has credibility), unlike Portis, who picked and chose the midst of a playoff stretch in 2008 and the early-mid part of the season in 2009 (after Portis had lost his own credibility as a player) to face-off with his current HC and current FB.

Posted by: psps23 | April 28, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Has it ocurred to any of you, besides Moe, that McNabb's performance may actually improve from the last couple of years? Having a running game - and make no mistake, we will run the ball - should make him more effective. Shanny did exactly that for Elway.

And I would not worry about Grossman either. Kyle Shanahan thought enough about his performance in Houston to actually recommend we get him. I think I'll go with HIS judgement. Besides, Lovie's offense in Chicago blows. It is no true barometer.

Posted by: shanks1 | April 28, 2010 11:56 AM | Report abuse

So...Coooley throws JAson under the bus, but no one cares because it wasn't Portis doing it.....Funny...
Posted by: 4thFloor | April 28, 2010 11:27 AM |

If it had been portis, we’d all be talking about why he got thrown in jail for swerving out of his lane while talking on a cell phone, while Cooley would have gotten off with just a warning….

Posted by: dlhaze1 | April 28, 2010 12:01 PM | Report abuse

sfit, I hope you change a diaper today, and get it all over your clothes......

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 28, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse


"Don't you put that evil on me Bean! Don't you put that on us!"

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 28, 2010 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Considering the fact that Shanahan unloaded Portis to the Redskins, I would think that he's be the odd man out. If Shanny didn't think highly enough to keep him there then why would he have a different opinion now? Besides as someone pointed out, Portis was a problem in the locker room and the main person on the team who thought he was above everyone else.

Posted by: bullwinkle1 | April 28, 2010 7:46 AM | Report abuse

You are completely and so off base it is crazy! there is no fact, as you claim, what so ever with your view of what happened in Denver.

Portis wanted to redo his contract in Denver because he rushed for over 1500 yards and went to the pro bowl. The OWNER not Shanny would not redo his deal. PORTIS not Shanny requested a trade iof your not going to redo the contract. Redskins were interested and contacted Denver...Traded Bailey for Portis and a pick.

nobody RAN Portis out of Denver.

Posted by: leevi98 | April 28, 2010 12:07 PM | Report abuse

i have no idea why everyone thinks cause we have all 3 previous starters that they won't keep All 3..

I think all 3 will be on the roster,,,I think Shanny and kyle will do what they always do..use a 3 headed monster...say CP and parker for 2 and 1/2 qts...then bam in come LJ mid through the 3rd...that is the formula shanny has used in the past but never with 3 backs this talented. All translates into staying healthy and not burned out down the stretch.

Posted by: leevi98 | April 28, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Right, just like Cooley picked and chose to express this in the offseason and after Campbell had been traded (not to mention that Cooley actually has credibility), unlike Portis, who picked and chose the midst of a playoff stretch in 2008 and the early-mid part of the season in 2009 (after Portis had lost his own credibility as a player) to face-off with his current HC and current FB.

Posted by: psps23

It doesn't matter when you say something inflammatory or controversial, at least not in this situation. It gets said regardless, what difference does it make how it looks then or now? What Portis said was known from within, the media, and the fans. He just said what more than a few were thinking, I'm sure. If anything give props to Portis for probably setting the wheels in motion to get Zorn's clueless ass out of here.

As far as Portis losing credibility, when has he made a statement or spoke out on an issue and was wrong about it. Not saying that he's right all the time... only about 90% of the time...

Zorn
Sellers
offensive line

... just to name a few.

Posted by: RedDMV | April 28, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Cooley did not drag Jason Campbell under the bus...Jason brought all that on him,self......NEW FLASH Jason Campebll never lived up to expectations....Jason Campbell held the ball too long...Jason Campbell could not read defenses...jason Campbell was not is very good..

Film does not lie!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTqk4Du4-wM&feature=related

QB Jason is no longer a Redskin!

Can we PLEASE for the love of GOD move on JASON CAMPBELL IS GONE NOT A REDSKIN! MOVE ON!

Posted by: leevi98 | April 28, 2010 12:14 PM | Report abuse

LARRY JOHNSON, what a sweet guy. Great club-house presence.

Posted by: glawrence007 | April 28, 2010 12:15 PM | Report abuse

I just dont think he is a good fit for the 3-4...

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 28, 2010 11:49 AM


OK dude, I'm not gonna keep this up all day but you gotta realize that switching from a 4-3 to a 3-4 effects the front 7 far more than it does the DBs. The Redskins are trying to incorporate a defense that emphasizes taking the ball away. That happens to be what Sharper does. Giving me B.S. stats from some pencil-pusher who wants to be relevant to a football conversation means nothing to me. I know what I see. I know the NO defense was sh*t without him and was a damn good unit with him. If he was soooo bad at the run (which even if true doesn't much matter since he's not playing in the box) and such an awful FS, he wouldn't have gotten on the field for a SB team. Period.

And you fail to realize we don't have a better option right now. It's been very well documented that LL can't play FS. He needs to move to SS. Certainly you understand my apprehension regarding going into the season with Lendy Holmes or whomever manning the FS spot.

And the rest of that crap you said...Gregggg Williams moving to a 3-4? The Buddy Ryan disciple who wouldn't move his precious scheme for anyone? You're so far out in left field, you're in the stands, hoss.

Let's just agree to disagree. You think one of the best safeties in football is a bum, I think he can help. Whether he's here or not, it ain't our call.

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 28, 2010 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Given their age and miles on the tires. Doubt all 3 will be healthy at any given time. Decision will probably be self-evident by who is healthy this week and who needs a rest. But the combination of the 3 may mean we have at least 1 healthy RB each week. If they start complaining about not being the featured back, the answer should be relatively easy, SHOW ME!

Posted by: skins50 | April 28, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse

brownie:

I disagree. What's up?

Posted by: glawrence007 | April 28, 2010 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Dallas may pass on Sharper.. (although it wont be Eatman and Ellis who decide.... Jerry makes the personnel decisions)

From Scout.Com
"Nick Eatman and Josh Ellis who work for the Cowboys have mentioned how the coaching staff of the Cowboys aren't "big fans" of Darren Sharper.
In fact, they made it a point to attack him when they played them last season."

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 28, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

BROWNWOOD:

Another blogger who doesn't think DARREN SHARPER could help our secondary? Wow. I caught the same shyt when I proposed that back when he came out as a FA.

Posted by: glawrence007 | April 28, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe the blog is actually discussing this he said she said crap with a when where and how.


JC sucked....players have admitted as much...I think the problem here is ...the JC lovers with blinders on...just can't except the truth.

the truth is...The QB sucks on the field and a nice guy off the field. Showed flashes of a good QB every 20 plays or so. He plays with no urgency, can't read defenses, holds the ball too long, too indecisive, and chokes in the red zone.

Was a good guy off the field...didn't publicly get upset over trade rumors...showed he was a nice guy but that does not translate into wins.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTqk4Du4-wM&feature=related

Can we move on from this guy?

Posted by: leevi98 | April 28, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

leevi98, if you're trying not to start up the JC debates again, you're not doing a very good job.

Posted by: Alan4 | April 28, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Can we PLEASE for the love of GOD move on JASON CAMPBELL IS GONE NOT A REDSKIN! MOVE ON!

Posted by: leevi98 | April 28, 2010 12:14 PM | Report abuse

"Let me sleep for the love of GOD!!!!!!!" - CHRIS FARLEY "TOMMY BOY"-echos from the past.

Posted by: glawrence007 | April 28, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

And the rest of that crap you said...Gregggg Williams moving to a 3-4? The Buddy Ryan disciple who wouldn't move his precious scheme for anyone? You're so far out in left field, you're in the stands, hoss.

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 28, 2010 12:15 PM

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idt
New Orleans Saints bring back 3-4 defense.
October 02, 2009, 12:00AM

"I never said I didn't like it, " said Vilma, who will face his former team for the first time in the Superdome on Sunday. "My problem is that we were losing, and I like to be winning."

That's why Vilma was perfectly happy spending last Sunday afternoon in the middle of another 3-4 defense, which the Saints used to shut down Buffalo in a 27-7 victory that upped their record to 3-0.

Defensive coordinator Gregg Williams, the mad scientist behind New Orleans' elaborate defensive playbook, said the strategy was something the team had been planning to throw at Buffalo for months.

"That was something back in the spring we had ready to roll, and we worked all spring long on that kind of a package vs. that style of offense, " said Williams, though he added that the Saints were prepared to switch things up if the Bills had made more adjustments.

"We've got 27 ways to add up to 11 (players on the field). I came up with another one last night."

The 3-4 alignment, once favored by the Saints under Jim Mora in their "Dome Patrol" days, has been around for years, but it's as popular as ever today.


In that sense, he and Williams are kindred spirits, which isn't surprising considering they both learned at the foot of defensive guru Buddy Ryan, Rex's father.

Buffalo offensive coordinator Alex Van Pelt said he was prepared for the Saints' 3-4, but he blamed himself for not adjusting to the heavy amount of zone blitzes the Saints threw at him.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 28, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

With LaRON LANDRY helping his LB friend out, I got to believe we try to move a player in a trade for a FS or we pick up a FA like SHARPER. LANDRY has said he plays SS this season. Who's gonna' man the most important d-backfield position, MOORE? HOLMES? Plueeze. Has to be a new face coming. Kept screaming to pick up TERRELL WHITEHEAD post-draft, but no-o-o. Frickin' brass can't see past the UNIVERSITY of MARYLAND.

Posted by: glawrence007 | April 28, 2010 12:35 PM | Report abuse

leevi98, if you're trying not to start up the JC debates again, you're not doing a very good job.

Posted by: Alan4 | April 28, 2010 12:26 PM

plus we all want him to do well in Oakland so we get the 4th round pick in 2012, rather than whatever else was lurking in that deal.

he's gone... even Colt Brennan is more interesting now.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 28, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Who's gonna' man the most important d-backfield position, MOORE? HOLMES? Plueeze. Has to be a new face coming. Kept screaming to pick up TERRELL WHITEHEAD post-draft, but no-o-o. Frickin' brass can't see past the UNIVERSITY of MARYLAND.

Posted by: glawrence007 | April 28, 2010 12:35 PM |

We need to let the young guys we have play.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 28, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

bean

"...I hope your supply of blue pills runs out, and you run over your wallet with the lawn mower..."

Actually, I tried opening the pill bottle in a dark room only to have about 20 erectile dysfunction tabs spill all over the place.

I thought I collected them all the next morning until I saw the family dog walking around the house with his thing harder than a calculus test.

mrsmoe saw it's length and thickness and complained, "What a waste, he's bigger than you."

I felt so bad for him that I took him to a local dog park hoping he could meet a fine b!tch and get a little tail.

Thing is, I didn't know he was a gay dog, and he choose to hook up with this pit bull named Ron Mexico who gave him herpes.

On the ride home, I asked him how it all felt being taken by a bigger, stronger animal.

Rough, he barked. Ruff, ruff, ruff.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 28, 2010 11:47 AM |

All you damn lefties need to... Ah, just kidding. This sh!t was pretty funny.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 28, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Kept screaming to pick up TERRELL WHITEHEAD post-draft, but no-o-o. Frickin' brass can't see past the UNIVERSITY of MARYLAND.
Posted by: glawrence007
--------------------------------
Another wannabe-GM that is smarter than a Super Bowl Champion coach and a former NFL executive of the year. I'm thinkin' their opinion might carry a tiny bit more weight. Seriously, dude, check yourself.

Posted by: shanks1 | April 28, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Who's gonna' man the most important d-backfield position, MOORE? HOLMES? Plueeze. Has to be a new face coming. Kept screaming to pick up TERRELL WHITEHEAD post-draft, but no-o-o. Frickin' brass can't see past the UNIVERSITY of MARYLAND.

Posted by: glawrence007 | April 28, 2010 12:35 PM |

We need to let the young guys we have play.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 28, 2010 12:41 PM

I agree with the fish. I think Kareem Moore is capable of holding down the spot. We need to let the young guys play.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 28, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

I might've been a little harsh there GL, but we've gotta stop thinking with a fantasy draft mentality around here. That was the problem with the amateurs that were running the club for the last 10 years.

Posted by: shanks1 | April 28, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

leevi98, if you're trying not to start up the JC debates again, you're not doing a very good job.

Posted by: Alan4 | April 28, 2010 12:26 PM

plus we all want him to do well in Oakland so we get the 4th round pick in 2012, rather than whatever else was lurking in that deal.

he's gone... even Colt Brennan is more interesting now.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 28, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

So your saying that we have to keep talking about him and praising how good he COULD have been here, how mistreated he was, didn't get enough chances or time develope because this will affect how he plays in Oakland and will hurt us for a 4th round pick?

Sorry I do not share that logic.

Posted by: leevi98 | April 28, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

I might've been a little harsh there GL, but we've gotta stop thinking with a fantasy draft mentality around here. That was the problem with the amateurs that were running the club for the last 10 years.

Posted by: shanks1 | April 28, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

glawrence007 is the resident specialist on guys you've never heard of from teams you've never seen play.

That or he is Terrell Whitehead's agent.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | April 28, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

So your saying that we have to keep talking about him and praising how good he COULD have been here, how mistreated he was, didn't get enough chances or time develope because this will affect how he plays in Oakland and will hurt us for a 4th round pick?

Sorry I do not share that logic.

Posted by: leevi98 | April 28, 2010 12:51 PM

I'm saying let it go... not a big deal. I don't fall into either camp on JC. the clock ran out, but I want him to do well enough to maximize whatever value he has to us now.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 28, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse

So your saying that we have to keep talking about him and praising how good he COULD have been here, how mistreated he was, didn't get enough chances or time develope because this will affect how he plays in Oakland and will hurt us for a 4th round pick?
Sorry I do not share that logic.
Posted by: leevi98 | April 28, 2010 12:51 PM

Dude, you are freakin obsessed! Put down the haterade; the guy is gone……where in this thread is anyone giving the guy all of this love that you seem to be reading into things? The discussion was about what Portis can’t say vs what Cooley supposedly can….not a debate about how good Campbell is. Read all of the posts again; there is no debate….it’s just you ranting about how bad he is. You went from 4th saying it was funny that nobody was bashing cooley for what he said right into trashing Campbell for the 800th time…..Get. Over. It.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | April 28, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

So your saying that we have to keep talking about him and praising how good he COULD have been here, how mistreated he was, didn't get enough chances or time develope because this will affect how he plays in Oakland and will hurt us for a 4th round pick?

Sorry I do not share that logic.

Posted by: leevi98 | April 28, 2010 12:51 PM
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only "mis-treatment" possible is that his skill-set wasn't suited for the last system (if there was a system) Zorn was putting him in. Great coaches work the system around the players...not force the player into a system.
JC's gone and is someone else's project now.. And who knows? He may thrive in Oakland.
Funny thing though.. The day he was acquired by Oakland.. he told the media that he was informed he would be the "Starter".
Tom Cable freaked and called the reporters to say no one told Campbell he was the Starter and that he had to compete with 4 other QBs.
Finally competing for his job, may be just what JC needs to bring out the competitive fire that seemed lacking here. And good for him if it does.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 28, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

so... other free agency or trade options at FS (besides Sharper)? I'm having a hard time coming up with any, maybe the front office is too?

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 28, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Tom Cable freaked and called the reporters to say no one told Campbell he was the Starter and that he had to compete with 4 other QBs.
Finally competing for his job, may be just what JC needs to bring out the competitive fire that seemed lacking here. And good for him if it does.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 28, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

You think Tom Cable is really calling the shots?

Bruce Gradkowski(sp?) and Kyle Boller aren't much competition.

Unless JC has a melt down, I'd expect him to be the starter there.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | April 28, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

so... other free agency or trade options at FS (besides Sharper)? I'm having a hard time coming up with any, maybe the front office is too?

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 28, 2010 1:06 PM

Anthony Bethea (Colts) was rumored to be available as RFA. Not sue if he signed his tender or not. Daniel Manning (Bears)was also supposedly shopped by the bears.

Posted by: TWISI | April 28, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

glawrence007 is the resident specialist on guys you've never heard of from teams you've never seen play.

That or he is Terrell Whitehead's agent.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | April 28, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Funny post and spot on.

Who is Terrell Whitehead? Could he be the NFL equivalent of Keyser Söze?

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 28, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

oh [insert diety name here], can we plz STOP IT!!

Posted by: DikShuttle | April 28, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

so... other free agency or trade options at FS (besides Sharper)? I'm having a hard time coming up with any, maybe the front office is too?

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 28, 2010 1:06 PM

Anthony Bethea (Colts) was rumored to be available as RFA. Not sue if he signed his tender or not. Daniel Manning (Bears)was also supposedly shopped by the bears.

Posted by: TWISI | April 28, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

OJ Atogwe. Not sure if there is new news with him. But we should attempt to acquire.

Posted by: Stu27 | April 28, 2010 1:22 PM | Report abuse

We need to let the young guys we have play.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 28, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

And be like you handle? Come on Flound. you know better.

Posted by: glawrence007 | April 28, 2010 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Bruce Gradkowski(sp?) and Kyle Boller aren't much competition.

Unless JC has a melt down, I'd expect him to be the starter there.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | April 28, 2010 1:13 PM |
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agreed.. I expect JC will be behind center in the Raiders first game.
Starting NFL QB for nothing..

Best move Davis has made since he changed laxatives.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 28, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

"It doesn't matter when you say something inflammatory or controversial, at least not in this situation. It gets said regardless, what difference does it make how it looks then or now? What Portis said was known from within, the media, and the fans. He just said what more than a few were thinking, I'm sure. If anything give props to Portis for probably setting the wheels in motion to get Zorn's clueless ass out of here.

As far as Portis losing credibility, when has he made a statement or spoke out on an issue and was wrong about it. Not saying that he's right all the time... only about 90% of the time...

Zorn
Sellers
offensive line

... just to name a few.

Posted by: RedDMV | April 28, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse"

It makes a difference because when you do it in the middle of the season, it alters team chemistry -- just like it did with Zorn (verbal media spat, Betts getting increased carries, etc.) and Sellers (reported locker room argument where the two had to be separated).

There's a huge difference between that and Cooley saying something after Campbell is gone.

And the credibility thing for Portis has less to do with whether he was right or wrong (he was right on Zorn, but I for one don't believe his criticisms of Sellers were "right" -- the team would NOT have been better off if Sellers was benched). It has much more to do with Cooley being a pro-bowl TE and Portis turning into a joke of a RB in '09.

Again, if Portis returns to his pro-bowl level, his words will be much more credible, just like they were in '08 when plenty of fans had his back. When he pulled the same type of stunt in '09 while running like a 70 year-old grandmother, they hold a lot less value.

Posted by: psps23 | April 28, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

for the record: i was fine with cooley & portis gum yapping

Posted by: chrislarry | April 28, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Who is Terrell Whitehead? Could he be the NFL equivalent of Keyser Söze?

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 28, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

LOL Good Pull

That would mean GL is actually Terrell Whitehead?

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | April 28, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

STEPHON HEYER and KEVIN BARNES, need I say more? Just call me the BOBBY BEATHARD of RI. LOL. GREG TOLER, CECIL NEWTON, TERRELL WHITEHEAD, LAWRENCE SIDBURY JR, ADRIAN TRACY, ARTHUR MOATS, ANTONIO DIXON (actually a REDSKIN for a brief moment).....

Posted by: glawrence007 | April 28, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

so... other free agency or trade options at FS (besides Sharper)? I'm having a hard time coming up with any, maybe the front office is too?

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 28, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Probably, I did.

Posted by: glawrence007 | April 28, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse


The key words in this article are "former 1000 yard rushers". More of the same.

BOYCOTT $NYDER NOW INSTEAD OF LATER!!

Posted by: hessone | April 28, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse


@brownwood26

McNabb is done and YOU can book it.

Posted by: hessone | April 28, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse

TYVM, cL.

There was no chemistry when CPo spoke out. It had already been destroyed. By the Owner, no less.

The decision to go w/ the Shannahan's was already in place at the bye week.

CPo was only a symptom, not a cause.

Any arguments about him now will be answered come pre-season. Until then it's sjking in the wind.

Posted by: DikShuttle | April 28, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Anthony Bethea (Colts) was rumored to be available as RFA. Not sue if he signed his tender or not. Daniel Manning (Bears)was also supposedly shopped by the bears.

Posted by: TWISI | April 28, 2010 1:16 PM

OJ Atogwe. Not sure if there is new news with him. But we should attempt to acquire.

Posted by: Stu27 | April 28, 2010 1:22 PM

pretty sure Bethea, Manning, and Atogwe are still RFA, but haven't found the terms... like Atogwe better, but he is coming off injuries. in any case, the price might be too high for these guys, unless Allen and Shanahan get creative. seems like the whole RFA situation this year has really clogged things up.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 28, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Williams, Keiland RB (practice squad w/ season call up... plays all special teams...)

Greer, Maurice RB (camp body...cut)

Alridge, Anthony RB ( cut.. again)

Hill, P.J. RB (practice squad... maybe)

Johnson, Larry RB ( was given guaranteed money... makes the team...)

Morris, Dennis FB/TE ( sellers' replacement.. makes team/practice squad...)

Parker, Willie RB ( no guaranteed money... after camp is over he will be gone...)

Portis, Clinton RB ( if he wasn't owed $6+ million he would have already been gone...)

Sellers, Mike FB ( the black rhino is showing signs of aging... back to the pro bowl this year then retires...)

Torain, Ryan RB ( makes team/ practice squad or ir to hide for a year...)

Young, Darrel RB ( converted practice squad linebacker... enough said...)

Posted by: jimmy_the_crickett | April 28, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

OJ Atogwe. Not sure if there is new news with him. But we should attempt to acquire.

Posted by: Stu27 | April 28, 2010 1:22 PM | Report abuse

That was one I offered, but I think he signed a new contract.

Posted by: glawrence007 | April 28, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

That would mean GL is actually Terrell Whitehead?

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | April 28, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Thats what I'm thinking.. You can find him on the Saints, Cowboys and Jags. blog as well.

Keep fighting the good fight Terrell!

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 28, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

OJ Atogwe. Not sure if there is new news with him. But we should attempt to acquire.

Posted by: Stu27 | April 28, 2010 1:22 PM | Report abuse

That was one I offered, but I think he signed a new contract.

Posted by: glawrence007 | April 28, 2010 1:40 PM |

So you to want to keep it going the way Vinny did it, never letting young gus step up an perform.

We can't go get somebody elses players to fill every spot, at some point you have to let young guys play. It happens all over the league every year.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 28, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

That was one I offered, but I think he signed a new contract.

Posted by: glawrence007 | April 28, 2010 1:40 PM

he signed the tender, not a contract. the deadline is June 1. some deal with an undisclosed sports hernia is mucking things up in St. Louis:

http://www.globe-democrat.com/news/2010/apr/28/no-news-westbrook-does-atogwe-have-sports-hernia/

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 28, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Tiger Woods tole me to tell you, to have a great defense for the playoffs, sign Adelius Thomas, and Mac will reboot, its cold , the grass ain't growin', and I ain't mowin', yonder chelada beckons...

Posted by: frak | April 28, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

So you to want to keep it going the way Vinny did it, never letting young gus step up an perform.

We can't go get somebody elses players to fill every spot, at some point you have to let young guys play. It happens all over the league every year.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 28, 2010 1:48 PM

hear you loud and clear flounder... not saying RFAs are the answer - in fact I suspect not @ 1:36 - but I'd like to see some more competition and depth at this position than Moore and Holmes.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 28, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

So you to want to keep it going the way Vinny did it, never letting young gus step up an perform.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 28, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

YES!!!!!!! Unequivocally - YES.

Posted by: glawrence007 | April 28, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Here's a name to keep in mind to join the camp fodder is Jason Craft. He's 34 now so there's an issue if he still has anything left. However, he played for Hasslet when he took over as HC. When Hasslet went to the 3-4 Craft got a bunch of PT. He played basically as an extra safety and was used as a blitzer. In the 10 games Hasslet was the HC, Craft ended up with 56 tackles, 3 sacks, 2 FF. 1 int and 2 fumble recoveries.

Posted by: TWISI | April 28, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

"Redskins not yet concerned about carries for Clinton Portis, Larry Johnson and Willie Parker"

I not worried, either.

Moe goes with the Portis/Parker backfield.

They are kinda the same back, the difference is one is more power, the other more speed.

And then, in 2011, when M Ingraham leaves Bama, he takes their place.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 28, 2010 8:04 AM
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What do you think about those two alternating with Larry occasionally coming in as a fullback and short yardage back?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | April 28, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

I don't think you take an established vet like Larry and have him completely change position. I think you expect him to take up some of the bruiser role we were aksking of CPo... But not a FB per se.

Posted by: DikShuttle | April 28, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

What do you think about those two alternating with Larry occasionally coming in as a fullback and short yardage back?

Posted by: RedSkinHead

That would be seems the plan, why not ?? It works for the Giants lately (not that the dog-a**es are a role model, but there offense is better than ours, just sayi n')..

Posted by: frak | April 28, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

I still can't decide who had the more disturbing laugh, Vinny or Gibbs 2.0.

I am actually fine with the trio of RB's the 'Skins currently have in place - for now.

Invariably, there will be injuries or a younger player stepping up that can change the makeup of the backfield. That said, I could see 'Fast Willie' on kickoff or even punt return duty but ultimately making the team.

Further, with the bolstering of the O-line, will CP now be less prone to indirectly ripping the line and fantasizing about running behind someone else's?

I just don't see LJ in the mix as much and with the bulk of his contract being incentive-laden, he may end up being released.

With the talk of Fat Albert playing linebacker (I laugh every time I hear that), why not line him up at fullback and see how truly athletic he can be? I'm totally serious here.

Thanks and I like everyone's takes.

Peas owt!

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | April 28, 2010 2:09 PM | Report abuse

The JAson Campbell debate will be much alive here for the next 2 years....

If he has a great game, someone will point it out on Monday and it will be The Monday afternoon into Tuesday convo up here....

If he has a Terrible Game, someone will point it out on Sunday night around 9pm - 11pm and that will become our Weekly Wednesday conversations for the seasons to come up here.....

Book it!

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 28, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Here's a name to keep in mind to join the camp fodder is Jason Craft. He's 34 now so there's an issue if he still has anything left. However, he played for Hasslet when he took over as HC. When Hasslet went to the 3-4 Craft got a bunch of PT. He played basically as an extra safety and was used as a blitzer. In the 10 games Hasslet was the HC, Craft ended up with 56 tackles, 3 sacks, 2 FF. 1 int and 2 fumble recoveries.

Posted by: TWISI | April 28, 2010 1:56 PM

seriously doubt that a converted CB out of the league since 2008 is our best answer. but who knows? FS will be one of the more interesting positions going forward.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 28, 2010 2:11 PM | Report abuse

....and not that there is anything wrong with interesting positions.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 28, 2010 2:15 PM | Report abuse

So you to want to keep it going the way Vinny did it, never letting young gus step up an perform.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 28, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse


Donovan McNabb, Larry Johnson, Willie Parker, Adam Carriker, Philip Buchanon...

Hello! We ARE doing it the way Vinny did it.

Posted by: p1funk | April 28, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 28, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

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Moe -- One your finest and funniest stories yet. Thanks for sharing!

Posted by: Vic1 | April 28, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

4th, just wait until McNabb's Skins meet Campbell's Raiders in a thirtieth anniversary Super Bowl rematch, February 2014... it's gonna be a real hoo-hah up here. Book it.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | April 28, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

So you to want to keep it going the way Vinny did it, never letting young gus step up an perform.

We can't go get somebody elses players to fill every spot, at some point you have to let young guys play. It happens all over the league every year.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 28, 2010 1:48 PM

We need a FS though and I dont see anyone stepping up to the caliber of a guy like AJO. This team does not have an actual free safety, any old terrance whitehead could tell you that..

Posted by: Stu27 | April 28, 2010 2:29 PM | Report abuse

The JAson Campbell debate will be much alive here for the next 2 years....

If he has a great game, someone will point it out on Monday and it will be The Monday afternoon into Tuesday convo up here....

If he has a Terrible Game, someone will point it out on Sunday night around 9pm - 11pm and that will become our Weekly Wednesday conversations for the seasons to come up here.....

Book it!

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 28, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse

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This is a fully guaranteed book it. Campbell will be forever tied to RI.

But we can at least put it to rest until the season starts.

Posted by: psps23 | April 28, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Portis knows just how to handle this. He will wine and complain throught the media and on the radio, he'll cry to his buddy Snyder, and throw a few coaches and teammates under the bus. It will be such a distraction, Shanahan will make him the starter to avoid the locker room dysfunction.

Posted by: lp_lodestar | April 28, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

It makes a difference because when you do it in the middle of the season, it alters team chemistry -- just like it did with Zorn (verbal media spat, Betts getting increased carries, etc.) and Sellers (reported locker room argument where the two had to be separated).

There's a huge difference between that and Cooley saying something after Campbell is gone.

And the credibility thing for Portis has less to do with whether he was right or wrong (he was right on Zorn, but I for one don't believe his criticisms of Sellers were "right" -- the team would NOT have been better off if Sellers was benched). It has much more to do with Cooley being a pro-bowl TE and Portis turning into a joke of a RB in '09.

Again, if Portis returns to his pro-bowl level, his words will be much more credible, just like they were in '08 when plenty of fans had his back. When he pulled the same type of stunt in '09 while running like a 70 year-old grandmother, they hold a lot less value.

Posted by: psps23


Hate to tell you, but team chemistry died on MNF prior to election day when the Steelers took over FedEx. About 2-4 games later after the Ravens loss is when Portis made his infamous "Genius" comment about Zorn; kicking off the short lived "media spat" between the two of them.

And if him and Sellers did get into a altercation, doesn't it take two to argue? Why only fault Portis for that?

And I've never bought the fact that production gives you carte blanche to say what's on your mind. If something needs saying, then say it! No need to walk on eggshells and sugar coat the obvious. And it's not like Portis is a nobody who hasn't done anything for the team... like it or not, he's one of the faces of the franchise.

Nice to throw aside the fact that he was hurt. But yeah, lets go ahead and deem him as "a joke of a running back in '09" to thoroughly fit the all too common anti-Portis agenda. Facts be damned.

Posted by: RedDMV | April 28, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Agree with Flounder that the young guys should get an opportunity, but like p1 mentioned they have already crossed that bridge. And if they are going to go out and get someone anyway, why not get someone in his prime who has history with our defensive coordinator. If they were building the team I would say go with Moore, but since we are now in a win now mode Atogwe would be the better choice.

Posted by: KingJoffeJoffer | April 28, 2010 2:33 PM | Report abuse

This is a fully guaranteed book it. Campbell will be forever tied to RI.

Posted by: psps23 | April 28, 2010 2:30 PM

It's called Leigh Torrence Syndrome. It's an official disorder in the DSM-IV. Also new in the DSM-IV, "Corkitis", which is an irrational need to raise taxes and write welfare checks, and "scampbellimia", which is a compusive need to hoarde money and shoot guns.

Posted by: Kenbeatrizz | April 28, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse

redskinhead

"What do you think about those two alternating with Larry occasionally coming in as a fullback and short yardage back?"


I don't think L Johnson has anything left.

He doesn't have a 'jump-cut' move, so that means he'll get yards as a power back behind Williams and Hicks.

So when he comes into the game, that's an easy key if you're playing defense.

Thing is, Parker/Portis is an even mix of speed/power, so if anything, I release Johnson and keep the rookie Williams.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 28, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

I like guns.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 28, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Agree with Flounder that the young guys should get an opportunity, but like p1 mentioned they have already crossed that bridge. And if they are going to go out and get someone anyway, why not get someone in his prime who has history with our defensive coordinator. If they were building the team I would say go with Moore, but since we are now in a win now mode Atogwe would be the better choice.

Posted by: KingJoffeJoffer | April 28, 2010 2:33 PM

I've tossed out the "win now" versus "rebuild" trope a couple of times... guess it's really more of a balancing act.

seems like Shanahan wants to win. who doesn't? but there is winning and there is WINNING BIG.

given the abysmal state of this team last year, the latter is simply not going to happen with a few high-profile free agents and/or trades (cf. the past decade).

cool with carefully placed stop-gap measures that increase the W-L record while allowing young players to develop. not sure we have many good options at FS.

the time horizon is more like three years. so maybe FS can wait?

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 28, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

It is almost comical how the Raiders are now handling Campbell.. After announcing he is the starter, Cable immediately puts the notion to rest by saying Jason was never told he would be the starter..

Imagine if JC has to play behind Bruce Gradkowski? He is entering "the battered wife who won't go to the police in fear of another beating from her husband" territory.

I really do hope he gets to rewrite his history in Oakland, but the relationship seems to be off to a rocky start.

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 28, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

I like guns.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1


Me too. They're fun to use when playing practical jokes.

- Signed,
Gilbert Arenas.

Posted by: RedDMV | April 28, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

"The Jason Campbell debate will be much alive here for the next 2 years...."


The reason why I think Campbell will do well in Oaktown is that no one has high expectations for him.

He doesn't have to be great, just better than J Russell.

And that ain't saying much.

Too, he will have protection, and if the raiders change up their scheme to reflect a mid range passing game that goes deep occasionally, he'll succeed.

But imagine if he has a pro bowl type year: then, folks will be hollering, "And all we got was a 4th rounder?"

"What's up with that????"

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 28, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 28, 2010 2:43 PM

I believe that LJ is more elusive than you give him credit for. Also Portis has never been a power back. He gained weight to be able to stand the punishment of the NFC Beast and the skins running game but he has never been a power back. Furhermore lets see some of these guys in action before making decisions. I dont think that the skins are going to have great production from the backs this year. I think they could be effective, but this line doesnt compare to some to the ones that Denver had in Shanahan's heyday.

Posted by: KingJoffeJoffer | April 28, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

A guy I used to work with went hunting during the winter months, lined up a deer, pulled the trigger, and *click*... nothing.

'Too cold to hunt', he says, and he and his brother hoof it back to the car. He hangs his rifle in the gun rack and drives off.

A little way down the road, his brother nods off, and he pulls into a gas station for some coffee. On his way out of the store, he hears a muffled explosion. He looks at his truck and see's smoke filling the interior and his brother stumbling out of it, cursing like the Devil.

Fool had never removed the bullet from the chamber, the pin eventually unfroze, blew a hole in his truck, and deafened his brother for a day.

True story. And they let him talk to customers.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | April 28, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: FedorEm | April 28, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

the time horizon is more like three years. so maybe FS can wait?


Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 28, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Sooooo greener pastures on the horizon?

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 28, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

matt, he's lucky he didn't kill someone, not supposed to transport a loaded weapon in a car....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 28, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

True story. And they let him talk to customers.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | April 28, 2010 3:00 PM
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wouldve lost a republican vote..

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 28, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Sooooo greener pastures on the horizon?

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 28, 2010 3:03 PM

it's all about 32 cows trying to get to the top:

http://ic2.pbase.com/v3/57/437357/2/45949834.Aturen05.jpg

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 28, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

matt, he's lucky he didn't kill someone, not supposed to transport a loaded weapon in a car....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 28, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse
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He wasn't the type to let common sense get in the way of his expediency. He chain smoked and chugged alcohol straight through 2 heart attacks. The 3rd one ended his streak this past January. But the guy died happier than a pig in sh!t, so... go figure.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | April 28, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

JC will start. JC may be mediocre, but he's a pro at being mediocre. Plus, he's competing with a QB who is actually addicted to being lazy. Man, there's a diagnosis for everything. Can Jamarcus get disability benefits for being a lazy-a$$ed mofo?

http://raiders.blogs.pressdemocrat.com/10649/jamarcus-russell-lethargy-addict/

Posted by: Kenbeatrizz | April 28, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

vic, et al

"One your finest and funniest stories yet..."


What do you mean by 'stories'?

Everything I post is something that actually happened.

Right now, my honry gay dog is complaining about his mother.

"What's wrong with her?" I asked him.

"She's a b!tch"

"Yeah," I said. "That would annoy me, too."

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 28, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

JC will start. JC may be mediocre, but he's a pro at being mediocre. Plus, he's competing with a QB who is actually addicted to being lazy.
Posted by: Kenbeatrizz | April 28, 2010 3:14 PM
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wow..JC and Jacarcass...
laid-back and laid-backer..

How different if they were paid by "games won"?

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 28, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse

matt, while what he does is his own business, he gives a bad name to those to try and be responsible concerning firearms...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 28, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Hate to tell you, but team chemistry died on MNF prior to election day when the Steelers took over FedEx. About 2-4 games later after the Ravens loss is when Portis made his infamous "Genius" comment about Zorn; kicking off the short lived "media spat" between the two of them.

And if him and Sellers did get into a altercation, doesn't it take two to argue? Why only fault Portis for that?

And I've never bought the fact that production gives you carte blanche to say what's on your mind. If something needs saying, then say it! No need to walk on eggshells and sugar coat the obvious. And it's not like Portis is a nobody who hasn't done anything for the team... like it or not, he's one of the faces of the franchise.

Nice to throw aside the fact that he was hurt. But yeah, lets go ahead and deem him as "a joke of a running back in '09" to thoroughly fit the all too common anti-Portis agenda. Facts be damned.

Posted by: RedDMV

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C'mon Red, team chemistry died in the middle of a game when we held a 6-2 record and first place in the NFC East? The team was soaring at that point.

And I gave a hearty laugh at the "he was hurt" line right there. Portis got injured 8 games into the season after rushing for 124 carries and 3.98 YPC. He was on pace for just under 1000 yards and 2 TDs. He was so bad that Quinton Ganther was an upgrade late in the season. Spare me the injury excuse for a second. He was a beast in '08, awful in '09. Make no mistake, I think he can pick it up again (and I think he will), but he was a joke last season.

But yea, yea, I know...it's all my anti-Portis agenda...

Posted by: psps23 | April 28, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

What if there was a football league where you only got paid if you won?
Could be some nasty-as-s "Longest Yard" type games..

I guess no league could ever be as tough as the Aztecs where the fans were allowed to kill the losing team.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 28, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3504250

Great! Shanahan is making us the Washington Broncos(felons) like his last team. No character guys here!

Posted by: KurtShanaman | April 28, 2010 3:45 PM | Report abuse

why does everyone hate on portis, look at him stick Mathias Kiwanuka...hes amazing in pass protection. in fact hes the best RB in pass protection

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dagF3Xoyq3Q

Posted by: quickcoll | April 28, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

I'll never forget a quote several years ago from a Redskins CB (forget who) describing the difference in pressure between a wide receiver and a cornerback:

"When a wide receiver makes a mistake, it's 2nd and 10. When a cornerback makes a mistake, it's 6 points."

Posted by: PriorKnowledge | April 28, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

2 RB's will share carries and make them happy....but I bet Larry Johnson gets left out and starts complaining early when it becomes obvious.

Posted by: Bious | April 28, 2010 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Cowpatties are having a field day over D.hall`s prediction!

Posted by: vexed50verizonnet | April 28, 2010 8:39 PM | Report abuse

Teh skins will need all three, since they are all damaged goods, either phyically or mentally.

Posted by: 4merskinsfan | May 1, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse

The skins will need all three since they are all damaged goods either physically or mentally.

Posted by: 4merskinsfan | May 1, 2010 5:07 PM | Report abuse

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