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Shanahan comfortable that Larry Johnson's past won't be an issue

Recently signed running back Larry Johnson has been arrested four times for domestic violence-related incidents, and in March 2009 he pleaded guilty to two counts of disturbing the peace, which stemmed from separate incidents. He was sentenced to two years' probation and ordered to complete both anger control counseling and 40 hours of community service.

While with the Kansas City Chiefs, Johnson clashed with former coach Dick Vermeil, complained about not getting to carry the ball enough, twice faced suspensions, threatened to miss training camp over a contract dispute and ultimately was released midway through the 2009 season after calling out his coaches via Twitter and hurling gay slurs at members of the media.

Obviously, Johnson comes with some baggage, which Coach Mike Shanahan said he strongly considered before the Redskins signed the Pro Bowler.

"Well, first of all, there's a lot of thought that goes into it, before you make those decisions," Shanahan said Wednesday during media availability at Redskins Park. "And I feel very good about Larry, what he brings to the table. Obviously, I've done some research on him.

"I've talked to a number of people about him before we actually [brought] him in. Now, I'm actually looking forward to him competing at that position. But I can assure you that a lot of thought, a lot of study, goes into checking somebody's background and talking to a number of different people before it's actually done."

Vermeil earlier this week said he expected Johnson to supplant longtime starter Clinton Portis as Washington's top back during this fall. "I love competition," Shanahan said. "So we're going to try to get as much depth as we can at every position. We've just got a couple of guys there right now.

"We've lost about four running backs. We're going to keep on getting guys that we think can compete because you're one play or two plays away from going to that third-team guy. So we're going to try to get as much talent as we can and, hopefully, not screw 'em up."

By Jason Reid  |  March 17, 2010; 2:31 PM ET
Categories:  Clinton Portis , Free agency , Jason Reid , Larry Johnson  
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Comments

Well, he should have asked Nate first, then.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | March 17, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Competition!

Wow...JC gone by Saturday's Draft Day Party!

Book it!

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 17, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Compete for jobs what a pleasant change!

Posted by: tomb4 | March 17, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Or Zeke...

Posted by: Curzon417 | March 17, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

"Billy....Have you ever seen a grown man naked?"

Posted by: leevi98 | March 17, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

I guess it's ok to "HIT woman once in a while, at least he didn't "RAPE" anyone like big "BEN".

Posted by: skinsinsider101 | March 17, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

"We've lost about four running backs. We're going to keep on getting guys that we think can compete because you're one play or two plays away from going to that third-team guy. So we're going to try to get as much talent as we can and, hopefully, not screw 'em up."

TRANSLATION???

"With the #4 pick in the 2010 NFL draft, the Washington Redskins select RB CJ Spiller"

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 17, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

"I love competition," Shanahan said. "So we're going to try to get as much depth as we can at every position."


...and I love this post!!! Time to break out the burgundy and gold underoos, I'm on the bandwagon!!

Posted by: stevek20147 | March 17, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

"Recently signed running back Larry Johnson has been arrested four times for domestic violence-related incidents, and in March 2009 he pleaded guilty to two counts of disturbing the peace, which stemmed from separate incidents. He was sentenced to two years' probation and ordered to complete both anger control counseling and 40 hours of community service."

Let's call Larry Johnson the anti-James Thrash.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 17, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Shawn Andrews; the next BMW reclamation project?
Posted by: psps23 | March 17, 2010 2:24 PM
One coach you can give the benefit of the doubt to when it comes to cuts is Andy Reid. That guy has a bona fide system when it comes to drafting young guys to coach up and put in the starting lineup in a few years, while cutting guys who are just past their prime and would eat up a lot of money. Don’t be surprised to see Andrews not play very well any more.

Unless you need a guy like Troy Vincent to block a field goal (heh-heh), you should probably stay away from Andy Reid’s trash. Really makes me wonder if Brian Westbrook will get a shot anywhere….

Posted by: dlhaze1 | March 17, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Obviously, Johnson comes with some baggage, which Coach Mike Shanahan said he strongly considered....

By Cindy Boren | March 17, 2010; 2:31 PM ET

Shanahan's got a plan for this baggage. He's bringing in Tatum Bell to steal it.

Posted by: League-Source | March 17, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

"Billy....Have you ever seen a grown man naked?"

Posted by: leevi98

RIP.

Over.

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 17, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Don't sign Shawn Andrews... Hell, Philly brought his own brother Stacy Andrews thinking this would help him & he still just did his own thing... he got no heart for the game.

Posted by: tony325 | March 17, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

He was sentenced to two years' probation and ordered to complete both anger control counseling and 40 hours of community service."

Let's call Larry Johnson the anti-James Thrash.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 17, 2010 2:52 PM

James Thrash sees community service as his calling. Larry Johnson sees it as punishment.

Posted by: League-Source | March 17, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Let's call Larry Johnson the anti-James Thrash.

Posted by: MistaMoe


Yeah because James Thrash never even came close to the type of production that Larry Johnson has put out.

No homo, pause, and what have you...

Posted by: RedDMV | March 17, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

this off season is so much less nerve wracking with these guys in charge

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | March 17, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Granted Grossman was rather, well, gross in Chicago, but you also have to look at coaching.. Lovie Smith

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | March 17, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

and I would like to thank Dan Snyder for f-ing off thus far, as requested

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | March 17, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Red... while Larry Johnson put up better #s... I'd tkae James Thrash in his prime anyday of the week... always. Thrash put his heart and soul out each game and worked his asz off during the offseason. He was a class act and not a bad player himself.

The redksins would not have been 4-12 last year if we had a few more James Thrash type of players.

Posted by: peoplearestupid1 | March 17, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Sorry... James Thrash in his prime over Larry Johnson in his prime. 100% of the time, 7 days a week.

Posted by: peoplearestupid1 | March 17, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

"Recently signed running back Larry Johnson has been arrested four times for domestic violence-related incidents, and in March 2009 he pleaded guilty to two counts of disturbing the peace, which stemmed from separate incidents. He was sentenced to two years' probation and ordered to complete both anger control counseling and 40 hours of community service."

Let's call Larry Johnson the anti-James Thrash.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 17, 2010 2:52 PM |
=========================
or, the very anti-Darrell Green.

wow..it does seem, only now, that Gibbs has REALLY left the building..

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 17, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

The redksins would not have been 4-12 last year if we had a few more James Thrash type of players.

Posted by: peoplearestupid1 | March 17, 2010 3:01 PM

Or one less Jim Zorn type head coach.

Posted by: League-Source | March 17, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Unless you need a guy like Troy Vincent to block a field goal (heh-heh), you should probably stay away from Andy Reid’s trash.

Posted by: dlhaze1

I think Hank Baskett fits that. Baskett was the guy who tired to catch the onside kick with his helmet in the Super Bowl.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 17, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse

6-2 in 2008 suggests he did successfully grasp the "system" and 2009 he put up decent numbers when he wasn't pulling turf out of his facemask.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | March 17, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse

PA, I think it says that opposing teams needed some tape on the offense to figure out the best way to stop. Then our offensive schemes never adjusted. And the O line wore out about that time also.

Posted by: frediefritz | March 17, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

The redksins would not have been 4-12 last year if we had a few more James Thrash type of players.

Posted by: peoplearestupid1 | March 17, 2010 3:01 PM


Antwaan Randle El, Rock Cartwright and Renaldo Wynn were plenty.

Posted by: Original_etrod | March 17, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

I can foresse some sparks from Johnson and Portis this year. Going to be a crazy lockerroom...especially if things are going bad

Posted by: CheyenneWY | March 17, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

" I'd tkae James Thrash in his prime anyday of the week... "

Posted by: peoplearestupid1 | March 17, 2010 3:01 PM |

Just curious. When did Thrash ever reach his prime? When he played for the Eagles maybe?

Posted by: bones21 | March 17, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

No homo, pause, and what have you...

Posted by: RedDMV

Did you ever see the 'pause' Gus Johnson had with Spike Lee about some dude on the Knicks? Epic.

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 17, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan has never been afraid of marginal character guys, like Clarett. Not sure I follow his thinking. I guess he thinks if it works out, he gets a lot of talent, cheap.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 17, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Sorry... James Thrash in his prime over Larry Johnson in his prime. 100% of the time, 7 days a week.

Posted by: peoplearestupid1 | March 17, 2010 3:01 PM |

Thats why you are posting here and not working in the NFL.

I don't give a sh_t how nice a guy is if he can't play, thrash didn't earn the nickname James Trash for knothing.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 17, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

I can foresse some sparks from Johnson and Portis this year. Going to be a crazy lockerroom...especially if things are going bad

Posted by: CheyenneWY

Won't be worse than last year. Besides, I expect Shanahan will cut a guy -- even a guy he brought in -- if he's a problem.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 17, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Red... while Larry Johnson put up better #s... I'd tkae James Thrash in his prime anyday of the week... always. Thrash put his heart and soul out each game and worked his asz off during the offseason. He was a class act and not a bad player himself.

The redksins would not have been 4-12 last year if we had a few more James Thrash type of players.

Posted by: peoplearestupid1


pas1, coaches have mentioned that Larry Johnson works hard as well, during both the week and offseason.

I know James Thrash is every 'skins fan BFF4Life, but while a great character guy, he was a below-average wide receiver. Who maintained the spot he did on the roster for so long because Gibbs really dug guys like him.


In the LJ theme: "Gibbs really dug guys like him."

no homo.

Posted by: RedDMV | March 17, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

At what point do you draft a young RB for the future. I was thinking that was supposed to be marcus Mason, but guess not.

What ever happened to Aldridge?

Posted by: CheyenneWY | March 17, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan has never been afraid of marginal character guys, like Clarett. Not sure I follow his thinking. I guess he thinks if it works out, he gets a lot of talent, cheap.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 17, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Clarett is petitioning for an early release from jail and indicated he plans to resume his NFL career.

I'm hoping there's enough competition in the backfield by then.

Posted by: ksquare | March 17, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

I think the skins could easily have the most savage front 7 in the NFC

LE: Daniels
NT: Icaneatyou
RE: AH

OLB: Wilson
ILB: Porter
ILB: Fletch
OLB: Osackpo

Plus decent reserves....rocky Mac, Blades, Carter, Jarmon, etc...

Translation draft oline!

Posted by: rupertpupkin | March 17, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

I don't give a sh_t how nice a guy is if he can't play, thrash didn't earn the nickname James Trash for knothing.

Posted by: Flounder21


Indeed.

Posted by: RedDMV | March 17, 2010 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Sorry... James Thrash in his prime over Larry Johnson in his prime. 100% of the time, 7 days a week.

Posted by: peoplearestupid1

In the club maybe, but not on the field. Thrash is a great dude but he's never been close to playing at the Pro Bowl level.

Posted by: dcwun | March 17, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

What ever happened to Aldridge?

Posted by: CheyenneWY | March 17, 2010 3:16 PM

Chillin...working out like everyone else under contract....

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 17, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Clarett is petitioning for an early release from jail and indicated he plans to resume his NFL career.

I'm hoping there's enough competition in the backfield by then.

Posted by: ksquare

Funny stuff -- I hope

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 17, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Super Bowl here we come! :)

Posted by: TBADOW | March 17, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Bears bounce Nathan Vasher
Posted by Mike Florio on March 17, 2010 3:15 PM ET
The Chicago Bears, less than two weeks after bringing in plenty of new talent, have gotten rid of a guy who used to be one of the team's key players on defense.

Gone is veteran cornerback Nathan Vasher, a six-year veteran who appeared in one Pro Bowl.

Injuries limited Vasher in 2007 and 2008, and he started only two games in 2009 despite appearing in 15.

He was under contract through 2012, at base salaries of $2.95 million this year, $3.45 million in 2011, and $3.7 million in the final year of the deal.


Posted by: 4thFloor | March 17, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Thrash reached his peak while playing with the Skins as a #3 behind Westbrook & Connell.

That's what got him a nice contract with Philly.

When he got there he was in way over his head as a #1 receiver.

Posted by: Original_etrod | March 17, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Shawn Andrews and Westbrook are both damaged goods. Won't be surprised if neither ever plays again.

Taking guys like Thrash over stars like LJ in their prime because of character is the perfect way to build a losing team. Every NFL team is going to have a couple suspect people out of the 53.

Posted by: ToddStinkston | March 17, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

"The redksins would not have been 4-12 last year if we had a few more James Thrash type of players"

Also Peyton Manning and Larry Fitzgerald -- we would have gone right to .500 with those guys and Thrash.

Posted by: Samson151 | March 17, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

What ever happened to Aldridge?

Posted by: CheyenneWY | March 17, 2010 3:16 PM

Chillin...working out like everyone else under contract....

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 17, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse


...and preparing to set the league on fire in 2010.

He is officially my guy this year.

No homo, such as.

Posted by: Original_etrod | March 17, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

With the 4th pick in the 2010 NFL draft....

The Washington Redskins select?

Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska

Rams will select Bradford
Lions will select Okung
Bucs select Mcoy

We could trade down

We could take Trent Williams

Our d-line needs youth & talent too
and this guy with Albert and the big
guy in the middle.....WOW

Your thoughts

Posted by: byrdinthesky | March 17, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Let's call Larry Johnson the anti-James Thrash.

Posted by: MistaMoe

Moe, call him whatever you want. Just don't call the cops on him.

Posted by: smokeybear2 | March 17, 2010 3:28 PM | Report abuse

PA, I think it says that opposing teams needed some tape on the offense to figure out the best way to stop. Then our offensive schemes never adjusted. And the O line wore out about that time also.

Posted by: frediefritz | March 17, 2010 3:09 PM
==========================
6-2 W-L first 8 games becoming 2-6 W-L last 8 games, in 2008, may also mean it took Zorn 8 games to un-coach a Gibbs 2007 Playoff team.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 17, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Moe, call him whatever you want. Just don't call the cops on him.

Posted by: smokeybear2 | March 17, 2010 3:28 PM

Moe once again accused of being an Uncle Tom? A House Negreo? Snitchin on your brothern?

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 17, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

"Unless you need a guy like Troy Vincent to block a field goal (heh-heh), you should probably stay away from Andy Reid’s trash.

Posted by: dlhaze1"

For the most part, I'd say this is correct. The only three players I'd say landed pretty successfully elsewhere coming from Philly are Brian Dawkins (to the Broncos), Deuce Staley (to Pitt), Corey Simon (to the Colts), and Derrick Burgess (to Oakland). Burgess was the big time steal; he had 35 sacks in the 3 years following his departure from Philly. But you're correct in saying the odds are against you in picking up scraps from Philly.

The thing about Andrews is that he's actually still young for an o-lineman. And Reid invested considerable time and effort in him, even when he was a longshot to come back.

To me, that speaks a lot about how Reid views him. He was being paid a lot of money for a guy that hadn't played in 2 years, yet Reid still hung onto him for an inordinate amount of time. That's not something he normally does.

At his old contract, he's certainly not worth it. But if he was signed to a cheap, "prove to me what you're worth" contract (like BMW or DHall when he was released by Oakland), I'd give it a shot.

Posted by: psps23 | March 17, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Happy St. Patrick's Day!

F Dallas!

Posted by: JohnnyRyde | March 17, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Happy St. Patty's Day. Draft Okung

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | March 17, 2010 1:02 PM

St. Patrick's Day? Draft beer, not Okung.

Posted by: League-Source | March 17, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

...and preparing to set the league on fire in 2010.

He is officially my guy this year.

No homo, such as.

Posted by: Original_etrod | March 17, 2010 3:27 PM

IDK...does he have more NFL carries than beantowngreg1?

Posted by: Curzon417 | March 17, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Moe once again accused of being an Uncle Tom? A House Negreo? Snitchin on your brothern?

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 17, 2010 3:31 PM

Really? I didn't get that at all.

Posted by: smokeybear2 | March 17, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse

No homo, pause, and what have you...

Posted by: RedDMV

Did you ever see the 'pause' Gus Johnson had with Spike Lee about some dude on the Knicks? Epic.

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 17, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

yes it was. Spike was talking about the knicks draft and some horrible trades they made, one of which included dan dickau. Spike was listing all the "smart" moves, such as "I like Dick..". Pause.

Posted by: AdamCr | March 17, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse

I dont get how you are all bashing trash... when he was on the eagles he was their #1 threat and put up decent numbers, best season 63 catches 833 something yards and 8 tds... Maybe not pro bowl numbers but thats certainly not bad.... considering the other wrs on that team were Freddie Mitchell and I have no idea..... WHILE also being a special teams leader, both as a captain but also the leader in tackles and i think he returned kicks for them... Thash was a solid football player who did what was asked him without hesitation.

THe man was all effort all the time. Larry works hard, but was never a good teammate or person. He complains and bitc^s about everything and is always being "slighted" by someone or something. He calls out his coaches teammates and hurls gay slurs at the media...

My point with Trash is that, he was actually a very decent player, no not a pro bowler but a guy who did the dirty things people didnt want to do and didn't complain about it. ALways there for the team and always trying to help his teammates... Johnson clearly has/had more talent than Thrash... I'm not saying that, but I'd rather have Thrash on my team. A man who is going to be there no matter what, give his all no matter what and wont hurt the team for any reason whatsoever.

To me thats what makes a good football team... not a man with all the talent in the world but who doesn't care one way or another if hes "getting paid."

Posted by: peoplearestupid1 | March 17, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Ryp, didn't see the 'pause' exchange between Spike and Gus Johnson. Is there video for it?

Posted by: RedDMV | March 17, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

The only three players I'd say landed pretty successfully elsewhere coming from Philly are Brian Dawkins (to the Broncos), Deuce Staley (to Pitt), Corey Simon (to the Colts), and Derrick Burgess (to Oakland).

Posted by: psps23 | March 17, 2010 3:32 PM

Well, you've got to admit that four out of three is a pretty high average. In baseball it would be batting 1333.

Posted by: League-Source | March 17, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Also, every year but his final year in the league Thrash averaged over 12 yards a catch.... just saying (well 2nd to last was 11.9).

Posted by: peoplearestupid1 | March 17, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Did you ever see the 'pause' Gus Johnson had with Spike Lee about some dude on the Knicks? Epic.

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 17, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

yes it was. Spike was talking about the knicks draft and some horrible trades they made, one of which included dan dickau. Spike was listing all the "smart" moves, such as "I like Dick..". Pause.

Posted by: AdamCr

LMAO!

Oh okay. Nah never seen that, but a few years back that definitely would've warranted a "no homo" or "pause".

"A real man shouldn't have to say no homo" - Jadakiss

But sometimes man, ya gotta say it. Like in Spike's case.

Posted by: RedDMV | March 17, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

"In Grossman, Shanahan says Redskins get experience, competition."


Rex Grossman, Colt Brennan and whatever guy they may decide to draft.

Those are the sorts of QBs that the coaches believe represent the competitive pool in which Jason Campbell is swimming.

Posted by: p1funk | March 17, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

We could trade down

We could take Trent Williams

Our d-line needs youth & talent too
and this guy with Albert and the big
guy in the middle.....WOW

Your thoughts

Posted by: byrdinthesky | March 17, 2010 3:27 PM
=================
to trade down, you need a buyer. And the whole league knows this is THE year to get some quality players in the lower rounds via the early entry juniors (skins.. no 3rd and no 6th..thks Vinny).
Further limiting the trade down wheeling and dealing is that here is a remote chance of No Draft next year..given the tbd CBA status.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 17, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

PSPS, I’ll give you Dawkins, Simon and Burgess, although I wouldn’t rate them as having done better than when they were eagles. Deuce Staley though? He didn’t do JACK when he went to the Steelers. I remember thinking he was a stud and would never go down until 2 or 3 guys wrapped him up. So I drafted him in my fantasy league and ended up dropping him pretty early on. He was a major disappointment after he left Philly…..

Posted by: dlhaze1 | March 17, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

For years the Eagles tried to get WRs on the cheap. Only lately have they put together a nice group of wideouts - Jackson, Avant, Maclin, etc. But now they have holes in a lot of other areas. And they should stop playing games with the QBs and play Kolb already.

Posted by: skinfanman | March 17, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Sorry... James Thrash in his prime over Larry Johnson in his prime. 100% of the time, 7 days a week.

Posted by: peoplearestupid1 | March 17, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

I liked James Thrash a lot when he was here (both times). Good special teamer, decent 3rd-4th receiver. You need Thrash-type guys on your team. But a team of Thrashs gets you the number one overall draft pick every year. In Parcells-speak, he was "just a guy." You also need difference-makers to win in this league, and they're a lot harder to come by than players like Thrash. Johnson, in his prime, was a difference-maker. Still, though, it's a lot harder to root for asses like Johnson than for guys like Thrash. If he can even approach his former level of play, I'l probably manage, though.

Posted by: rbpalmer | March 17, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

With the 4th pick in the 2010 NFL draft....

The Washington Redskins select?
Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska
Rams will select Bradford
Lions will select Okung
Bucs select Mcoy
We could trade down
We could take Trent Williams
Our d-line needs youth & talent too
and this guy with Albert and the big
guy in the middle.....WOW

Your thoughts
byrdinthesky

...just don't see the bucs taking another QB...the coaching staff didn't change & an investment was made in Josh Freeman....

...the Browns may trade up to 3 and grab a QB-all signs are(stockpiling of draft picks, getting rid of both of their QBs) pointing that way...

...having said that-man, I hope you're right... Shanahan is a coach that has always believed in his coaching ability-almost to a fault, I just don't see him picking a RB like Spiller with a high pick or even an O-lineman-again his history shows he's a "Coach him up" coach, so it's more likely that we'll trade out of four unless he loves one of the QBs

Shanahan comes from the Walsh school of drafting-get lots of picks and coach em'up You have to love how close to the vest the Skins are playing it-hopefully we'll be the team to make the deal with the Browns to trade back-Shanahan loves to fleece a team that has googly-eyes for a player-he did it to Snyder a couple of times when with the Broncos.

Posted by: ArmchairGM | March 17, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Moe once again accused of being an Uncle Tom? A House Negreo? Snitchin on your brothern?

Posted by: 4thFloor


O-re-o... Ooooooo-O

"To understand this, you have to go back to what [the] young brother here referred to as the house Negro and the field Negro — back during slavery. There was two kinds of slaves. There was the house Negro and the field Negro. The house Negroes - they lived in the house with master, they dressed pretty good, they ate good 'cause they ate his food — what he left. They lived in the attic or the basement, but still they lived near the master; and they loved their master more than the master loved himself. They would give their life to save the master's house quicker than the master would. The house Negro, if the master said, "We got a good house here," the house Negro would say, "Yeah, we got a good house here." Whenever the master said "we," he said "we." That's how you can tell a house Negro."
"If the master's house caught on fire, the house Negro would fight harder to put the blaze out than the master would. If the master got sick, the house Negro would say, "What's the matter, boss, we sick?" We sick! He identified himself with his master more than his master identified with himself. And if you came to the house Negro and said, "Let's run away, let's escape, let's separate," the house Negro would look at you and say, "Man, you crazy. What you mean, separate? Where is there a better house than this? Where can I wear better clothes than this? Where can I eat better food than this?" That was that house Negro. In those days he was called a "house ni**er." And that's what we call him today, because we've still got some house ni**ers running around here." - El-Hajj Malik El-Shabazz aka Malcolm X

Posted by: RedDMV | March 17, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Well I thought they were going to use Staley in rotational role, which he did pretty well at for Pitt, going for over 840 yards in 10 games. His problem was being vultured by Bettis for goal line TDs (Bettis had 13 that year, despite not starting until Staley went down -- Staley had 1).

Either way, I was agreeing with you overall. Another anomaly: Al Harris. He did well for GB following his departure.

Posted by: psps23 | March 17, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Bears bounce Nathan Vasher
Posted by Mike Florio on March 17, 2010 3:15 PM ET
The Chicago Bears, less than two weeks after bringing in plenty of new talent, have gotten rid of a guy who used to be one of the team's key players on defense.

Gone is veteran cornerback Nathan Vasher, a six-year veteran who appeared in one Pro Bowl.

Injuries limited Vasher in 2007 and 2008, and he started only two games in 2009 despite appearing in 15.

He was under contract through 2012, at base salaries of $2.95 million this year, $3.45 million in 2011, and $3.7 million in the final year of the deal.
Posted by: 4thFloor | March 17, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse
Sure, minimum salary with lots of incentives, I'd bring him in, see if he has his wheels back.

Posted by: frediefritz | March 17, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

beep

Posted by: Curzon417 | March 17, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

I'm just curious by nature--can't help glancing at accidents on the highway, either--but has anyone seen anything about how Tebow's workout went today? I saw an AP report that it happened, but it didn't have any details.

Posted by: closer44 | March 17, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

loves one of the QBs

Shanahan comes from the Walsh school of drafting-get lots of picks and coach em'up You have to love how close to the vest the Skins are playing it-hopefully we'll be the team to make the deal with the Browns to trade back-Shanahan loves to fleece a team that has googly-eyes for a player-he did it to Snyder a couple of times when with the Broncos.

Posted by: ArmchairGM | March 17, 2010 3:49 PM
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good point.. Browns are pretty googly this year.. Would like to fleece their young and deep OLine. But, who would the Browns want from the Skins? Holmgren will not want Jason. Holmgren's closest friend and former QB coach is Zorn who has pretty much thrown JC under the bus, with his parting shots.

Incidentally, how'd Shanny do against Snyder/Gibbs who wanted to move up and get JC in the 2005 Draft?
From the Skins, Shanny picked up a 3rd rnder in 2005 and a 1st rnder in 2006 and a 4th rnder in 2006.
Worked out to
Karl Paymah 3rd round pick in 2005 (currently a starting CB in MN)
Jay Cutler,1st pick 2006 (pro-bowl 2008)
Brandon Marshall, Skins 4th round pick in 2006 (pro-bowl 2008 and 2009).

not bad Shanny.. do it again..

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 17, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

"With the #4 pick in the 2010 NFL draft, the Washington Redskins select RB CJ Spiller"

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 17, 2010 2:51 PM

Please stop with this CJ Spiller with the #4 pick nonsense.

Posted by: Number4DCSportsFan | March 17, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse

they would trade back if they wanted spiller! hes not worth a #4! Hes got the right speed and vision to be great in shannys system!!!

Posted by: goskinsgo1 | March 17, 2010 7:00 PM | Report abuse

"We've lost about four running backs. We're going to keep on getting guys that we think can compete because you're one play or two plays away from going to that third-team guy. So we're going to try to get as much talent as we can and, hopefully, not screw 'em up."

TRANSLATION???

"With the #4 pick in the 2010 NFL draft, the Washington Redskins select RB CJ Spiller"

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MistaMoe, I was thinking the exact same thing when I read that. I really think Campbell will do for another year until the 2011 draft, players like Spiller don't come around that often! We need to capitalize!

Posted by: ddrcoaster | March 17, 2010 8:26 PM | Report abuse

"We've lost ... running backs"

Say what!!!??? You didn't "lose" them...you threw them away! Betts and Rock were all the competition Prima Donna Portis needed. Heck, if he hadn't hurt his knew Betts would've gone to the PB this year! He didn't make excuses or blame the OL for not opening holes...he just put up numbers.

And what's with cuttin' all the guys over 30...all the LEADERS over 30...and then signing a bunch of wash-outs and has-beens. I was by no means a Zorn fanatic, and I will heartily agree that the discipline that comes along with Shanahan was and is sorely needed (if only to get Portis to practice), but so far he's got me sweating! Grossman!? Puhlease!

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