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Shanahan expects Portis to 'be in great shape' and at a lower weight

Some of Clinton Portis's teammates privately complained about his poor conditioning at the outset of training camp last season.

Once the season began, players expressed frustration about Portis's attempt to have fullback Mike Sellers demoted, his lackadaisical approach to practice and lack of burst during games. For now, though, let's focus on his conditioning.

It was clear to the coaching staff that Portis was not in top shape to start camp. At that point, however, former head coach Jim Zorn had already been beaten down repeatedly whenever he raised concerns about Portis with top management. Zorn picked his battles carefully regarding Portis before eventually giving up altogether.

Of course, Mike Shanahan is not Zorn. Shanahan is the Redskins' new undisputed leader, and Portis, having started his career under Shanahan in Denver, knows how the two-time Super Bowl winner rolls. Portis is participating in the Redskins' voluntary offseason conditioning program at Redskins Park.

"I didn't expect anything but that," Shanahan said of Portis's full commitment to the program. "I think everybody seems surprised outside but not me, because when Clinton was with me [in Denver] he never missed."

Of course, perfect attendance is not enough for Shanahan. He expects Portis to be in top shape for the season.

"He was 205 or 210 pounds and averaged [nearly] six yards a carry for two years [with the Broncos]. That's what I expect him to be - in great shape and doing the things he's always done with me. He knows he's got to be lighter, sure.

"I think we'll know as time goes on [what Portis's playing weight should be]. ... I haven't talked to him about it, but I would say that he'll probably be shooting at 210, 212, 214 range. I think Clinton knows what's best for him and his body, what type of offense we run with the zone blocking scheme that gives him the best chance to be successful."

By Jason Reid  |  March 24, 2010; 12:30 PM ET
Categories:  Clinton Portis , Mike Shanahan  
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Skydiving is bout the only thing worth doing in Chambersburg, PA

Posted by: Vicc | March 24, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

"Of course, Mike Shanahan is not Zorn. Shanahan is the Redskins' new undisputed leader, and Portis, having started his career under Shanahan in Denver, knows how the three-time Super Bowl winner rolls."


Nothing like the power that comes with a big name coach.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 24, 2010 12:44 PM | Report abuse

One year it's bad hammies and groins, the next it's key players fat and out of shape.

Hopefully this year, our boys will be in shape and limber enough to sprint downfield without tweeking every muscle from the hip down.

Posted by: Alan4 | March 24, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

PewterReport.com reports Alabama LB Rolando McClain's NFL Draft stock is in decline, according to a league scout, due to recent developments regarding his Crohn's disease, which was disclosed after he could not finish his Pro Day workout. McClain probably went from a mid first-round draft pick to a late first-round pick to maybe even a second-round selection.

Posted by: skinfanman | March 24, 2010 12:40 PM

`

huh?

McClain won't slip past the Gint's at pick 15.

Posted by: Vicc | March 24, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

"Shanahan is the Redskins' new undisputed leader, and Portis, having started his career under Shanahan in Denver, knows how the three-time Super Bowl winner rolls"

1998 Super Bowl XXXIII
1997 Super Bowl XXXII
1994 Super Bowl XXIX (Offensive Coordinator)

Posted by: Diesel44 | March 24, 2010 12:48 PM | Report abuse

"Skydiving is bout the only thing worth doing in Chambersburg, PA"

I loved the time I spend in that part of Pennsylvania.

Thing is, I was in a dense smoke cloud, so for all I know, your complaints about the place might be correct.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 24, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

"Some of Clinton Portis's teammates privately complained about his poor conditioning at the outset of training camp last season."

I guess these "private" complaints to "da Mayor" will disappear since his boy Rock was cut.

Posted by: dcwun | March 24, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Don't you mean Shanahan is a TWO-time Superbowl winner? Not three. This is to confuse Shanahan with Gibbs, with whom he dined with recently. But this was a revealing psychological slip: critics are already conflating Shanahan with Gibbs, and suggesting they might experience similar sucess...

Posted by: neilgraves | March 24, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

PewterReport.com reports Alabama LB Rolando McClain's NFL Draft stock is in decline, according to a league scout, due to recent developments regarding his Crohn's disease, which was disclosed after he could not finish his Pro Day workout. McClain probably went from a mid first-round draft pick to a late first-round pick to maybe even a second-round selection.

Posted by: skinfanman | March 24, 2010 12:40 PM
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I wish. It would be amazing if he was there at 37. The Crohn's disease is nothing new. He's had it since 9th grade. If this "incident" causes NFL personnel people to ignore everything he did at Alabama, then I'd have to say they're as loopy as a bunch of teenage girls watching American Idol.

Posted by: closer44 | March 24, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

I’m cautiously optimistic about Shanahan’s rigid posture with key players--Albert and now Portis.

I don’t think coaches and players should all be holding hands and singing ring-around-the-rosies-pocket-full-posies, but on the other hand, I don’t want coaches to push the players into a corner where they feel they (players) need to become a problem in order to save face.

Posted by: smokeybear2 | March 24, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, CP looked a little pudgy at the start of the season. Let's trim that baby fat boy so you can quit whining all the time and play. :)

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | March 24, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Nice to know that Shanahan is basically telling fans that last year Zorn was forced to play with an out of shape crybaby.

not that I have much hope for Shanahan. He won his Super Bowls with a Hall of Fame QB that was at his prime when Shanahan became Head Coach.

Let's see how he does with an average QB.

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Posted by: oldnova | March 24, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

It was clear to the coaching staff that Portis was not in top shape to start camp. At that point, however, former head coach Jim Zorn had already been beaten down repeatedly whenever he raised concerns about Portis with top management. Zorn picked his battles carefully regarding Portis before eventually giving up altogether- JReid

Its post like this that make me feel for Zorn. Portis/Haynesworth and Danny Boy pretty much destroyed him as a coach. Its too bad he was such a push over but I mean... POrtis didn't really help him, when the owner comes down and tells you that your star RB is right and you are wrong what can you do? Sucks but what could Zorn really do? Go behiind the owners back?

Posted by: peoplearestupid1 | March 24, 2010 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Let's see how he does with an average QB.

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Posted by: oldnova | March 24, 2010 12:59 PM

He went 14-2 with Jake Plummer.

Posted by: TWISI | March 24, 2010 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Skydiving is bout the only thing worth doing in Chambersburg, PA

Posted by: Vicc | March 24, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse
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Parachute optional

Posted by: mattsoundworld | March 24, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Zorn had no chance at all. I'm not saying he wasn't in over his head, but he had no backing by the FO and the players knew it. Most of them I'm sure saw those that didn't pull their weight. I hope those players out.
I effing love that MS is saying CP and AH better be in shape. I do wish we could trade fat albert cause he is as advertised, a stud for a couple plays and out when it's crucial to make a stop. pathetic.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | March 24, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan is right to focus on Portis.

People here are asking how he'll do with an average QB... everyone loves a hero QB.

Shanahan is asking how he can improve a below average run game. I'm sure he noticed that our run game all but disappeared in mid-2008. There aren't many (any?) NFL QBs who can compete without the threat of a respectable running game.

Posted by: Alan4 | March 24, 2010 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Don't you mean Shanahan is a TWO-time Superbowl winner? Not three. This is to confuse Shanahan with Gibbs, with whom he dined with recently.

Posted by: neilgraves | March 24, 2010 12:52 PM

1998 Super Bowl XXXIII
1997 Super Bowl XXXII
1994 Super Bowl XXIX (Offensive Coordinator)

Posted by: Diesel44 | March 24, 2010 12:48 PM

Neil, you my friend appear to be confused.

Posted by: Diesel44 | March 24, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Skydiving is bout the only thing worth doing in Chambersburg, PA

Posted by: Vicc | March 24, 2010 12:41 PM |

My 12U select softball team has a big tournament in Chambersburg Memorial day weekend.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 24, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

when the owner comes down and tells you that your star RB is right and you are wrong what can you do? Sucks but what could Zorn really do? Go behiind the owners back?

Posted by: peoplearestupid1


Here, have a Kleenex and a sip of tea.

Please, "make me feel bad for Zorn"? What about his lack of leadership or his horrendous play-calling?

And it's nice to know you have the pulse on what's going on INSIDE the building at Redskins Park.

Do explain how exactly you know that Portis and Snyder took the golden elevator all the way to the basement where Zorn's office was located (since, he was treated so badly) and scolded Zorn -- both of them.
Then after ranting and raving, in an act of superiority smashed the hula-girl on Zorn's desk into a million pieces.... I mean, how do you know this?

I will NEVER EVER feel bad for that doofus, Jim Zorn. They said Jesus was a nice guy too, how did things pan out for him? So please spare me and others with the Zorn sympathy. It's just a running bad joke at this point.

Posted by: RedDMV | March 24, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

He not only had a QB...but he had a O Line.

See Jake Plummer reference above.

Campbell with no line and no running back never had a chance.

Posted by: petebowling1 | March 24, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

What did portis weight last year?? 220?

Posted by: cocodc1 | March 24, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Glad to see Shanahan keying on AH92 and CP26 as guys who need to show up strong and in playing condition... as neither came ready to play last season, and both quickly self-eliminated from any meaningful playing time -- attributed to phantom injuries and other weak excuses.

Trouble is, unless the coach is willing to lobby the front office to withold cash, (for beach of contract), he is going to be hard pressed to speak the language these guys want to hear or enforce his expectations. Both of these slouches appear to have guaranteed money contracts, and neither appears willing or able to "compromise their self-respect" and go after the "chump change" that presumably is available in the performance clauses of their contracts.

Posted by: Vic1 | March 24, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Trade AH? No way. There's a reason he makes the Pro-Bowl. Yeah, he needs to get in better shape, but he's not too unlike Riggo.

He has the potential to be a big impact player... when he's on the field he can ball. I'll take 70% time with AH than 90-100% with the DT equivalent of Stephon Heyer (no disrespect intended to Heyer, but we need more players opponents actually fear in the trenches).

Posted by: Alan4 | March 24, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Alan,

I agree his potential is enormous, trouble is, so is his azz. when needed on key third downs late in the game, he's out. 70% won't get it done.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | March 24, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Portis looked at least 230 last year.

Dude had a pudgy beer belly gut.

Big fan of Portis, but he he's GOT TO be healthy this year. No excuses.

If not, I'm sure the new brass can show him where they've moved the doors to along with everything else they've re-arranged.

Posted by: RedDMV | March 24, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Vic1 | March 24, 2010 1:19 PM

Vic1: You and I agree that players have the upper hand.

This isn't like Intel or Mcdonald's were if an employee doesn't fit, or doesn't conform, to the job description, he's either let go or his pay is reduced.

Posted by: smokeybear2 | March 24, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

They said Jesus was a nice guy too, how did things pan out for him?

Posted by: RedDMV

Pretty good. They threw hima great going away dinner, He came back to life after the Easter bunny rolled the rock away from his tomb. He's got a great seat next to the Big Guy, had a bunch of religions based on him, and his name is on the lips of every mechanic who bangs his thumb and a certain Florida Gator QB who chats him up constantly.

Posted by: TheCork | March 24, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Man, the chip on this guy's shoulder is more like a log.

Here's something that 'the mayonnaise' never angles:

When CPo speaks truth on someone, he's causing friction- but when someone calls out Portis, it's viable news? How is that not throwing someone under the bus??

biased. pure biased.

Posted by: DikShuttle | March 24, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Skydiving is bout the only thing worth doing in Chambersburg, PA

Posted by: Vicc

At least there is a Sheetz nearby

Posted by: connskins | March 24, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

"You and I agree that players have the upper hand."

--

Not necessarily.

Much has been made of CP26 guaranteed money... which is reported to be somewhere around $7 or 8 million for this season alone.

And much has also been made of Dan Snyder's wanting to win in the "worst possible way," which has usually led him to throw big money at over-the-hill free agents and others who had already lost their hunger and desire to compete.

I'm not sure how much the total team annual payroll is, but am guessing it's somewhere in the $200 million range... and only a part (albeit a substantial part) of a much larger enterprise that reportedly generates well in excess of $2 BILLION a year.

Now ask yourself, can this team ever win so long as CP26 continues to make a mockery of training, conditioning, practice and game planning and playing time?

Also ask yourself, how much fan frustration (and lost revenue) could be attributed to this ass clown? For example, is anyone really going out to buy a CP26 jersey this season (or ever again)? Or how many people going to stay away from the stadium again this year when the team again discovers that is has no running game, and no passing game, and consequently experiences another losing streak?

And finally, where is the tipping point – that is, when does it make more sense (and money) to sit this lazy ass on the bench (or even better, to clear his roster spot in any way you can) and replace him with someone who actually wants to compete and win?


Posted by: Vic1 | March 24, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Beep beep

Posted by: C-DubDC | March 24, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Vic1 | March 24, 2010 1:53 PM

Nice points. I hope you are right. We'll see how it all works out.

Posted by: smokeybear2 | March 24, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: neilgraves

Car Rental Agent: Welcome to Marathon, may I help you?


Neal Page: Yes.


Car Rental Agent: How may I help you?


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Car Rental Agent: I really don't care for the way you're speaking to me.


Neal: And I really don't care for the way your company left me in the middle of fu_king nowhere with fu_king keys to a fu_king car that isn't fu_king there. And I really didn't care to fu_king walk down a fu_king highway and across a fu_king runway to get back here to have you smile at my fu_king face... I want a fu_king car, right fu_king now.

Posted by: RedDMV | March 24, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

There are several problems that exist here that seem to continually plague the Skins. The first being systemic of how player contracts are written; players are cowed down to by the owners, given huge contracts they mostly haven't proven they are worth (especially rookies), and aren't given mandatory, fiscal penalties if they don't live up to the expectations of the team's management, basically giving the coaching staff no clout or real authority to discipline their players as they see fit. It has allowed for the ongoing pattern of spoiled, "you can't make me do it" types of players we have to keep reading about. It's really ruining the rep of the league and adds to the resentment the average hardworking fans havs who earn 1/100th of their salaries and can't pull that same stuff in their places of employment.

Posted by: DC2AZ99 | March 24, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

This makes me dislike Portis even more. So he just wasted a few years not giving a dam about practicing or coming in in tip top shape, now all of a sudden he going to be there full time. They should cut his pay.

Posted by: keedrow | March 24, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Pinning their hopes on Portis and Haynesworth being in shape adds up to another 4-12 season. Guaranteeing money to a dumb athlete is about the most absurd thing I can think of. I'd pay them off and kick them outta here. They have easily made themselves the most hated Redskins.

Posted by: lp_lodestar | March 24, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

I said at an earlier date during the season that Portis was "weak". He would get the ball, run into the first player and just fall! just fall, no contact, no power, no burst! Funny how the offensive line got better in the run game when portis got injured....

Posted by: Pedro01 | March 24, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Also, LA was right about one thing in his rant about AH in that, AH should be a clear and present leader from day 1 of the new admin change. He voiced his displeasure at the last one and got what he wanted (not that Snyder did it to appease him, but he got it just the same).
Get into the lockerroom with your fellow lineman, at very least, get into our new weightroom with the new fitness team/regimine brought in to help. AH complained that he did that last year and wound up not in good enough shape. 1) not the same program as last year, so don't assume the same results as last year, 2) how much effort did you REALLY put into the fitness program last year (clearly not enough), 3) if you like your personal trainer so much, a) can you share him/her with other teammates to help them get up to the playing level you think it will get you to and b) is there a law or rule that says you can't do both simultaneously? Shan-the-man said you are only at Redskins Park a few hours daily. Think how great your conditioning would be then! You're already a beast...you could be legendary!
"Be the change you want to see." Ghandi

Posted by: DC2AZ99 | March 24, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

I wouldn't worry about who Mike S. won his Super Bowls with. I believe their coach of the future is Kyle S. and he'll take over when Dad is done which might not be too far off.

Posted by: jdumb | March 24, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Portis sacrificed his game to accommodate Gibbs' power-running style. Portis doesn't appear to have break-away speed any longer but he should be able to give us a couple of Ricky Ervins-type runs this year.

Posted by: coparker5 | March 24, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Jim Zorn was not the answer to Washington's leadership needs. However, he was also royally screwed by management and was basically trying to lead with both hands tied behind his back.

Posted by: ArlingtonHokie | March 24, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

I am sick and tired of guys that make the pro bowl elsewhere and then come here and blame the workout regime, coaches and the 'set up' for their declining play.

There is no reason except laziness that Haynesworth reported to camp last year 20 pounds overweight.

He had just been paid a $40M bonus and spent the offseason eating and lounging around instead of working on his game.

And it caught up to him. That's why he missed a game with a strained muscle in his backside.

Haynesworth is 6'6 and 340 but he is also a guy that acts 18 years old despite being 28 or 29.

It's clear he doesn't have the mental toughness or work ethic of a London Fletcher.

Posted by: leopard09 | March 24, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Let's go 26.. shows these want 2 bees skins fan that you still have something left in da tank. I believe in you.

PoRts MVP of 2010 season for SkINS..ChUmps!

Posted by: taylormade218 | March 24, 2010 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Watch how ya'll jump back on CP B*LLS

Posted by: taylormade218 | March 24, 2010 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Wow all you Portis haters will be the first on his jock when he not only shows up in shape but has a break out season and shatters that idiot Riggins record.

What some of you idiots don't realize is that Portis changed his body type to fit what Gibbs was runnning , Gibbs never figured out how to use CP but he still was a beast without an offensive line..As far as Mike Sellers getting called out have any of you fair weather fans seen him block

Posted by: BeatDontStop | March 24, 2010 5:56 PM | Report abuse

Agreed, Portis was a quick outside runner (stretch plays) before he came to Washington. They turned him into a power inside run grinder. He's done a decent job of that, and he's an amazing pass protector, but it's not what his strength was. Not sure he can get back to that style, he might have too much mileage to change back.

That's still no excuse for not being in shape. If he's got time to yack and complain he's not tired enough from practice.

-Guy with a Portis jersey

Posted by: Keiser | March 24, 2010 7:30 PM | Report abuse

"I didn't expect anything but that," Shanahan said of Portis's full commitment to the program. "I think everybody seems surprised outside but not me, because when Clinton was with me [in Denver] he never missed."

THIS IS PATHETIC! I AM SO GLAD THE BUCK FINALLY STOPS AT THE HC. I ALSO CAN'T WAIT UNTIL FAT ALBERT IS GONE SO NOBODY IS LEFT TRAINING OFF-SITE. PORTIS WOULD BE OFF-SITE TRAINING IN MIAMI IF THIS WERE 2005, BUT HE KNOWS HE COULD BE CUT IF HE TRIED THIS TODAY. THERE IS SO MUCH TO PICK UP ON BY BEING WITH THE TEAM AND COACHES. FAT ALBERT BETTER BE 325 AND DOMINATE!

Posted by: PinotNoir | March 25, 2010 4:14 AM | Report abuse

cp=BUM lose him.

Posted by: Tobor58 | March 25, 2010 6:44 AM | Report abuse

Vic1: You and I agree that players have the upper hand.

This isn't like Intel or Mcdonald's were if an employee doesn't fit, or doesn't conform, to the job description, he's either let go or his pay is reduced.

Posted by: smokeybear2

you seem to forget that shanahan has already gotten rid of portis once. most believe it was because of money, but i believe it was because he would not take direction; he danced around and did not follow the one cut and go philosophy shanahan and bobby turner preached.

shanahan will not be afraid to let the big money players ride the bench if they don't perform. i think that is incentive enough.

Posted by: zatoichi77 | March 25, 2010 10:09 PM | Report abuse


Let's see how he does with an average QB.

Posted by: oldnova | March 24, 2010 12:59 PM

He went 14-2 with Jake Plummer.

Posted by: TWISI

TWISI, i agree. shanahan did win his two super bowls with elway at qb, but ask doug williams how many super bowls dan reeves won with elway at qb? reeves lost three super bowls with elway.

shanny was actually 13-3 with plummer, but they got to the afc championship before plummer imploded.

shanny got jay cutler and BRIAN GRIESE to play at a pro bowl level where other coaches couldn't.

plummer's best years were with denver, and the whole scheme was based on playing to his own particular strengths.

don't sleep on the fact that shanahan excels at getting the most out of his qb's.

Posted by: zatoichi77 | March 25, 2010 10:19 PM | Report abuse

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