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Posted at 1:33 PM ET, 03/ 1/2011

Will Clinton Portis be on an NFL roster next season?

By Washington Post editors

The Post Sports Live team discusses Portis's career and future prospects.

By Washington Post editors  | March 1, 2011; 1:33 PM ET
Categories:  Clinton Portis, Running backs  
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Even though he is an idiot for saying that he will always be a feature back, I still say yes.

Posted by: ddrcoaster | March 1, 2011 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Hell, maybe he could even be a starter somewhere like Seattle, Arizona, Denver...

Posted by: ddrcoaster | March 1, 2011 1:48 PM | Report abuse

rickyroge

I am willing to put my confidence in Mike Shanahan in that he is a better talent evaluator than Vinny Cerrato...


I feel the same way.

But right now, I feel something else: this offseason is extremely important and will show if M Shanahan has finally 'learned' the roster.

The McNabb, AH, Galloway, etc. mishaps are what they were.

But now, Shanallen should have some very concrete ideas about how the team will and should be fixed.

I trust them like you do.

But I will say when I see things differently.

We all should.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 1, 2011 1:50 PM | Report abuse

sure, he can still contribute something...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 1, 2011 1:52 PM | Report abuse

RSH- agree about the red flags but he has top 10 talent, the flags will be the only thing that keeps him out of the top 15.

Posted by: Diesel44 | March 1, 2011 1:55 PM | Report abuse

I'd watch this, if I could.

Posted by: PlayAction | March 1, 2011 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Will Clinton Portis be on an NFL roster next season?


Who holds out hope for a dude that's missed tons of games over the past three seasons?

Maybe he wants to be a Montreal Alouette

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 1, 2011 1:56 PM | Report abuse

RSH- agree about the red flags but he has top 10 talent, the flags will be the only thing that keeps him out of the top 15.

Posted by: Diesel44 | March 1, 2011 1:55 PM
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When they said in that article that he was a little too fond of the spotlight and might not be as motivated when he gets into the NFL spotlight, I thought of Devin Thomas.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 1, 2011 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Maybe he wants to be a Montreal Alouette

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 1, 2011 1:56 PM

Speaking of the Alouette's...are the players permitted to go where they please in the event of a lockout? Maybe Vince McMahaon can give the football thing another shot.

Posted by: PlayAction | March 1, 2011 2:01 PM | Report abuse

I think Portis would do better on a team that has a throw first philosophy. New England isn't a stretch. Portis can catch and pass block, and I think those are qualities that a team like New England would be looking for. Beli has shown he's not afraid of bringing in an old running back to help out from time to time.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 1, 2011 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Will Clinton Portis be on an NFL roster next season?


Who holds out hope for a dude that's missed tons of games over the past three seasons?

Maybe he wants to be a Montreal Alouette

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 1, 2011 1:56 PM | Report abuse

I'm still expecting him to resign with Skins, after he realizes he's not going to get any big offers. I think we will offer him vet minimum with some performance incentives.

Posted by: frediefritz | March 1, 2011 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Hell, maybe he could even be a starter somewhere like Seattle, Arizona, Denver...


Ari--Beanie Wells

Seattle--Marshawn Lynch

Denver--Knowshon Moreno


So you'd sit one of those kids down to give an old dawg like CP a shot?

Don't think so, my friend.......

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 1, 2011 2:07 PM | Report abuse

How's this for WaPo hypocrisy. Howard Bryant, who was a WaPo sports reporter 4 yrs ago before joining ESPN, was arrested recently on charges of domestic violence and resisting arrest. This was reported in the WaPo Arts and Living section of the paper and no mention was made of his tenure on the paper as a sports reporter. It would seem that if your are going to report ad nauseum on Fatso's indiscretions (none of which included domestic violence and resisting arrest - prob a level or two more serious than a tittie grab on a babe that was asking for it) that the least you could do to be even-handed would be to have one thread on RI about this Howard Bryant shti, no?

Posted by: TheAnimalFarm | March 1, 2011 2:07 PM | Report abuse

I'd watch this, if I could.

Posted by: PlayAction | March 1, 2011 1:55 PM
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I didn't watch this either, but the dude on the far right sits like he has no nads.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 1, 2011 2:08 PM | Report abuse

I'm still expecting him to resign with Skins, after he realizes he's not going to get any big offers. I think we will offer him vet minimum with some performance incentives.

Posted by: frediefritz | March 1, 2011 2:05 PM | Report abuse

That's what I think too. He just needs an attitude adjustment. It will come by way of the lack of offers he gets. Once he realizes how much he's not worth he'll come back for that rushing record.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | March 1, 2011 2:08 PM | Report abuse

RSH- agree about the red flags but he has top 10 talent, the flags will be the only thing that keeps him out of the top 15.

Posted by: Diesel44 | March 1, 2011 1:55 PM |

Hey, if there are six flags then Danny wants nothing to do with it. He's been there and done that.

Posted by: TheAnimalFarm | March 1, 2011 2:10 PM | Report abuse

I'm not watching this.

PA, I'm disappointed in you. This was never a content based quip for me.

smh


Posted by: DikShuttle | March 1, 2011 2:10 PM | Report abuse

My brother-in-law and I were discussing this last night. Watch. He goes to Dallas and puts up 800+ backing up Jones.

Fkuck.

Posted by: DikShuttle | March 1, 2011 2:12 PM | Report abuse

My brother-in-law and I were discussing this last night. Watch. He goes to Dallas and puts up 800+ backing up Jones.

Posted by: DikShuttle | March 1, 2011 2:12 PM |

After that tendon sep and conk the dude would have trouble picking up 8 yds backing up AP.

Posted by: TheAnimalFarm | March 1, 2011 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Maybe he wants to be a Montreal Alouette

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 1, 2011 1:56 PM


Montreal did just let Avon Cobourne go to the Hmilton Tigers, he signed as a FA. He was one of the best backs in the CFL recently a Grey Cup MVP...

But in all reality i could see him in NE solely to protect for the chosen one.

Posted by: Stu27 | March 1, 2011 2:16 PM | Report abuse

I'm not watching this.

PA, I'm disappointed in you.

Posted by: DikShuttle | March 1, 2011 2:10 PM

I'm not sure what came over me...I'm not watching this...wtf!

Posted by: PlayAction | March 1, 2011 2:18 PM | Report abuse

lol, PA.

Posted by: DikShuttle | March 1, 2011 2:19 PM | Report abuse

My brother-in-law and I were discussing this last night. Watch. He goes to Dallas and puts up 800+ backing up Jones.

Fkuck.

Posted by: DikShuttle | March 1, 2011 2:12 PM
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I think wherever he goes, he's going to suffer through the same issues he had in Washington. That means injuries. That means occasionally making comments to the media that will make his coach cringe. That means not wanting to practice because he feels entitled. If he goes to Dallas, Garrett won't be strong enough to keep from being overrun by CP. If he goes to Dallas, he could very well be the Redskins MVP.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 1, 2011 2:19 PM | Report abuse

But in all reality I could see him in NE solely to protect for the chosen one.

Fred Taylor's failure in NE is the reason why I doubt this.

The Pats are so well-stocked draft wise they could snag a receiver and running back in rounds 1/2 and thus, have no need for Portis or any other vet looking for an easy way to a ring.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 1, 2011 2:21 PM | Report abuse

RSH & tAF,

While I see your point(s). I don't agree. The man is VERY talented and, used the right way, could produce well for someone. Obviously, they'd be getting an older, outspoken man.

Acknowledged, we've disagreed about this for a long time.

Posted by: DikShuttle | March 1, 2011 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Hey folks...

Do you ever notice how we as fans talk ourselves into being losers. All the time I hear...

"You don't take a QB at #10 with so many other holes..."

OR

"A WR at #10 is nuts"...

Posted by: rickyroge | March 1, 2011 1:33 PM

What you're seeing is that we are affected by our experiences. It kind of preceeds Vinny, really.

This is our list of 1st round draft picks since 1991:

1991 17 Bobby Wilson DT Michigan State
1992 4 Desmond Howard WR Michigan
1993 19 Tom Carter DB Notre Dame
1994 3 Heath Shuler QB Tennessee
1995 4 Michael Westbrook WR Colorado
1996 30 Andre Johnson T Penn State
1997 17 Kenard Lang DE Miami (FL)
1998 No first-round draft pick
1999 7 Champ Bailey CB Georgia
2000 2 LaVar Arrington LB Penn State
3 Chris Samuels T Alabama
2001 15 Rod Gardner WR Clemson
2002 32 Patrick Ramsey QB Tulane
2003 No first-round draft pick
2004 5 Sean Taylor S Miami (FL)
2005 9 Carlos Rogers CB Auburn
25 Jason Campbell QB Auburn
2006 No first-round draft pick
2007 6 LaRon Landry S Louisiana State
2008 No first-round draft pick
2009 13 Brian Orakpo DE Texas
2010 4 Trent Williams OT Oklahoma

On this list, you see 3 WRs (Howard, Westbrook, Gardner) and 3 QBs (Schuler, Ramsey, Campbell).

Of those 6 QBs and WRs, the only one who even gave us average NFL quality performance was Jason Campbell--and half the fanbase seems to despise him.

The only real game-changers we've drafted in the first round in decades now were on the defensive side of the ball (plus a couple of top notch OTs).

As a Skins fan, I don't think I'm alone in feeling the burn from all those franchise-killing 1st round busts on offense.

Posted by: Alan4 | March 1, 2011 2:20 PM |

Posted by: Alan4 | March 1, 2011 2:24 PM | Report abuse

If he goes to Dallas, Garrett won't be strong enough to keep from being overrun by CP.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 1, 2011 2:19 PM |

If he acts up in big D his ass will be overrun by Garrett's foot.

He's

1. old
2. former Skin
3. hanging on by a thread

and you think G would treat him with kid gloves? Jesus you're dumb.

Posted by: TheAnimalFarm | March 1, 2011 2:25 PM | Report abuse

I'm not going back to read the past few days of comments.....

Just wanted to get a take on what RI is saying about CP? Is there still a for him/against him attitude? I surely hope not.

And, I am tired of these Sportstalkers on the Radio (Looking at you Kevin Sheehen and Tom Lovero!!) talking about CP's release is the end of a bad time in Redskins History where all they did was over spent on Free Agents.

Hello!! This was all Joe Gibbs 2.0.....not Vinny, not Danny....ALL GIBBS...lets not forget about Brunell. That's a 2nd and 3rd rounder right there....

And it's like all they and some others only remember the last 3 years. Or when Zorn went 6-2, it was Zorn or the 'line broke down in the 2nd half'.....

I could prob type for a while but I would end it here.....Why does no one talk about maybe the sudden tragic unexpected murder of ST21 might have Fcuked things up in Redskins Country???? If he was alive now, he would be at the elite level with Palamalu and Reed, no one else....

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 1, 2011 2:28 PM | Report abuse

If he acts up in big D his ass will be overrun by Garrett's foot.


Two names scare me about the Dallas Cowboys:

Garrett

Ryan

They don't play, they just coach.

And they are two damn good coaches.

And that is what I find a little frightening from our perspective.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 1, 2011 2:28 PM | Report abuse

If he goes to Dallas, Garrett won't be strong enough to keep from being overrun by CP.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 1, 2011 2:19 PM |

If he acts up in big D his ass will be overrun by Garrett's foot.

He's

1. old
2. former Skin
3. hanging on by a thread

and you think G would treat him with kid gloves? Jesus you're dumb.

Posted by: TheAnimalFarm | March 1, 2011 2:25 PM
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Jason Garrett is a players' coach and you show your ignorance by suggesting he's not. A guy like Portis would run him over just like Portis did to Zorn. Watch Garett in his first preseason as head coach. I thought Wade Phillips was a cream puff, but watch Garrett.

The best thing for Portis would be to go to team where they have a strict coach like the Giants or the Patriots.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 1, 2011 2:30 PM | Report abuse

cp goes elsewhere, is retired as a redskins in 3 years and makes an appearance on DWTS shortly thereafter....

books on tape it!!!

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 1, 2011 2:31 PM | Report abuse

1997 17 Kenard Lang DE Miami (FL)

I always liked this guy.

He was one we didn't need to let get away.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 1, 2011 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Alan4 | March 1, 2011 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Westbrook to me was the biggest disappointment. When he was on the field he took games over. He had size, speed, and big-play ability. What a waste.

Posted by: monk811 | March 1, 2011 2:32 PM | Report abuse

I'd watch this, if I could.

Posted by: PlayAction | March 1, 2011 1:55 PM
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I didn't watch this either, but the dude on the far right sits like he has no nads.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 1, 2011 2:08 PM | Report abuse

No, his nads are there, they're sitting to his right!

So what does that make the dude to the far left, the herpe?

Posted by: monk811 | March 1, 2011 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Doesn't seem like anyone mentioned it -- and maybe it goes without saying, but -- I'm not watching this.

Posted by: dcsween | March 1, 2011 2:44 PM | Report abuse

I'm not watching this.

PA, I'm disappointed in you.

Posted by: DikShuttle | March 1, 2011 2:10 PM

I'm not sure what came over me...I'm not watching this...wtf!

Posted by: PlayAction | March 1, 2011 2:18 PM | Report abuse

I'm too busy to watch this, I'll just put a sock in front of the screen and he can fill me in later.

Posted by: monk811 | March 1, 2011 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Westbrook to me was the biggest disappointment. When he was on the field he took games over. He had size, speed, and big-play ability. What a waste.

Posted by: monk811 | March 1, 2011 2:32 PM

At the risk of botching another great redskin memory...I'll do it anyway...

The game winning touchdown grab he had to open the new stadium was spectacular.

Posted by: PlayAction | March 1, 2011 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 1, 2011 2:21 PM | Report abuse

F Taylor and CP are very different RBs, I dont think the pats would evaluate them as one and the same. CP brings a unique ability to pass protect. Taylor couldn't hold a candle to CP in that department. Furthermore you can draft rbs and fbs for the next decade and not get anyone close to CPs ability to pass protect.

Posted by: Stu27 | March 1, 2011 2:58 PM | Report abuse

The McNabb, AH, Galloway, etc. mishaps are what they were.

But now, Shanallen should have some very concrete ideas about how the team will and should be fixed.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 1, 2011 1:50 PM

They said Mike Shanahan used his year off to hunker down and study the game of football in a way he was unable to do as a full-time head coach.

They said he visited other NFL training camps to study other coaches' methods. Apparently, Ashburn wasn't on his schedule.


Posted by: Alan4 | March 1, 2011 3:00 PM | Report abuse

F Taylor

Posted by: Stu27 | March 1, 2011 2:58 PM | Report abuse

You don't have to cuss at him!

Posted by: monk811 | March 1, 2011 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan on the record as saying he will not release Albert. He will either be traded for proper value or will be back next YR.

Posted by: Diesel44 | March 1, 2011 3:08 PM | Report abuse

he's going to new england or indy...both are passing offenses...and even if he cant run that well (neither teams have great RB's) he still is one of the best pass blockers which are what both these teams do anyways

Posted by: jasonma1 | March 1, 2011 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Adam Schefter: "The plan right now is to bring Albert Haynesworth back next season."

Posted by: Alan4 | March 1, 2011 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan on the record as saying he will not release Albert. He will either be traded for proper value or will be back next YR.

Posted by: Diesel44 | March 1, 2011 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Smart statement. Nobody will expect to get AH on the cheap. If they want him, they'll have to give value for him.

Posted by: frediefritz | March 1, 2011 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan on the record as saying he will not release Albert. He will either be traded for proper value or will be back next YR.

Posted by: Diesel44 | March 1, 2011 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Smart statement. Nobody will expect to get AH on the cheap. If they want him, they'll have to give value for him.

Posted by: frediefritz | March 1, 2011 3:11 PM | Report abuse

We gain nothing by cutting him but could pick up a draft pick by keeping him. Good move by us...for once.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | March 1, 2011 3:13 PM | Report abuse

"Shanahan on the record as saying he will not release Albert. He will either be traded for proper value or will be back next YR. "


The seasons are changing and the when will AHay be cut discussion can being anew.

Posted by: Stu27 | March 1, 2011 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Smart statement. Nobody will expect to get AH on the cheap. If they want him, they'll have to give value for him.

Posted by: frediefritz | March 1, 2011 3:11 PM

If you were a GM for another team, how much would you give up for a guy that played only 8 games last season (playing hard only 50% of the time according to his head coach), fought with his coaches from training camp on, refused to talk to his head coach, and was ultimately suspended the final 4 games for "conduct detrimental to the team"?

Posted by: Alan4 | March 1, 2011 3:17 PM | Report abuse

The game winning touchdown grab he had to open the new stadium was spectacular.

Posted by: PlayAction | March 1, 2011 2:54 PM | Report abuse

See, all our bad luck started with that damn Westbrook!!!

It's kinda depressing, cause if Snyder was the curse then at least we'd have hope in the future that he'd get older and want to sell the team, or luckily someone would step on him and crush him like a bug.

I guess we'll have to have a seance or a sacrifice or something. Let's see, who is a useless, waste of space that nobody would miss if we sacrificed them? I think we've got 2!

Coin Toss: Which lowlife gets sacrificed?
A. hessone
B. TheAnimalFarm
C. The sheep that letter B just screwed
D. All of the above

Posted by: monk811 | March 1, 2011 3:19 PM | Report abuse

If you were a GM for another team, how much would you give up for a guy that played only 8 games last season (playing hard only 50% of the time according to his head coach), fought with his coaches from training camp on, refused to talk to his head coach, and was ultimately suspended the final 4 games for "conduct detrimental to the team"?


Posted by: Alan4 | March 1, 2011 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Half of a ham sandwich, on pumpernickle!

Posted by: monk811 | March 1, 2011 3:23 PM | Report abuse

No way I'm watching this. I think CP will go out and find out exactly what he is worth in free agency and decide to retire.

Mayock says this years combine has the best group of D linemen he has ever seen. We need to get a couple.

Posted by: wireman65 | March 1, 2011 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Nobody will expect to get AH on the cheap. If they want him, they'll have to give value for him.

Posted by: frediefritz | March 1, 2011 3:11 PM |

Value for Albert? Give me a break. He has no value. This is about making Albert give back some money in exchange for his release.

Posted by: beep-beep | March 1, 2011 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Something tells me that this AH move is more about punishing AH than trying to get a better pick for him. Hopefully not, but just can't shake this feeling.

Posted by: kerzon417 | March 1, 2011 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Haynesworth is now our Jamarcus Russell. The sooner we accept that, the sooner we can move on.

Posted by: Alan4 | March 1, 2011 3:27 PM | Report abuse

I'm too busy to watch this, I'll just put a sock in front of the screen and he can fill me in later.

Posted by: monk811 | March 1, 2011 2:54 PM | Report abuse


Now isn't THAT the pot calling the kettle African American!?


.... besides, don't you usually fill the socks in later... ..ew.

Posted by: DikShuttle | March 1, 2011 3:29 PM | Report abuse

I think CP will be on a roster before the end of next season but he might be an in-season pickup due to a team having injury issues at the RB position.

Isn't there a HC out there who is able to take a back like Portis and plug him into his system garnering better-than-average production out of him?

Oh wait.....

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | March 1, 2011 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Coin Toss: Which lowlife gets sacrificed?
A. hessone
B. TheAnimalFarm
C. The sheep that letter B just screwed
D. All of the above

Posted by: monk811 | March 1, 2011 3:19 PM

Like the gods can't tell a real sacrifice from burnt cornbread? Those three have as much value as sacrifices as AH has in a trade. A real sacrifice would be someone with value: you, sween, Mistamoe, Diesel44 -- not this bunch of riff raff.

Posted by: beep-beep | March 1, 2011 3:31 PM | Report abuse

If you were a GM for another team, how much would you give up for a guy that played only 8 games last season (playing hard only 50% of the time according to his head coach), fought with his coaches from training camp on, refused to talk to his head coach, and was ultimately suspended the final 4 games for "conduct detrimental to the team"?


Posted by: Alan4 | March 1, 2011 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Pats gave up a 4th for Randy Moss who at that time was suffering from nagging injuries, unwillingness to play, character issues, and took a lot of plays off.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | March 1, 2011 3:32 PM | Report abuse

The game winning touchdown grab he had to open the new stadium was spectacular.

I was sitting in sec 106 row 8 seat 5 at that game. He threw the ball up in the stands and I got a hand on it. Could have caught it but would have had to demolish my then girlfriend. I made the wrong decision.

Posted by: wireman65 | March 1, 2011 3:37 PM | Report abuse

The game winning touchdown grab he had to open the new stadium was spectacular.

I was sitting in sec 106 row 8 seat 5 at that game. He threw the ball up in the stands and I got a hand on it. Could have caught it but would have had to demolish my then girlfriend. I made the wrong decision.

Posted by: wireman65 | March 1, 2011 3:37 PM |

Sounds cool. I dove for a foul ball off Bobby Bonilla in his first game with the O's, knocking over a few older folks. Yes, I caught it. I wasn't at all impressed with some dirty ass baseball and gave it away to the old lady in front of me to a chorus of applause and pats on the back.

I think diving into/onto a hottie can only be defended by efforting to snag a ball of some sort being hit, kicked, or tossed into the stands.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | March 1, 2011 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Lavar just said that keeping Haynesworth "sets a bad presidents". Wow F'in Wow v

Posted by: Diesel44 | March 1, 2011 3:43 PM | Report abuse

I was sitting in sec 106 row 8 seat 5 at that game. He threw the ball up in the stands and I got a hand on it. Could have caught it but would have had to demolish my then girlfriend. I made the wrong decision.

Posted by: wireman65 | March 1, 2011 3:37 PM

Haha...oh well...Dan Marino couldn't have thrown the ball to my seats.

Posted by: PlayAction | March 1, 2011 3:43 PM | Report abuse

I think we should feel lucky to get a box of crackerjack for that fat sob.

..of course, he'd eat it before we could get to it...

Posted by: DikShuttle | March 1, 2011 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Hell, maybe he could even be a starter somewhere like Seattle, Arizona, Denver...


Ari--Beanie Wells

Seattle--Marshawn Lynch

Denver--Knowshon Moreno


So you'd sit one of those kids down to give an old dawg like CP a shot?

Don't think so, my friend.......

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 1, 2011 2:07 PM | Report abuse


Marshawn Lynch isn't really a kid any more, aside from that run he had against the Saints, he didn't have a very good season. In my opinion, the Seahawks are lacking in the run game and could use CP. Beanie Wells hasn't had too great of a career so far either, and if the cards end up drafting a rookie qb don't you think they would want an experienced RB to hand the ball off to to take pressure off the kid? Knowshawn Moreno is more of a pass catching back, like LeSean McCoy for the Eagles. I guess it was stupid of me saying he could start there, but having someone like CP and someone like Moreno in the backfield would make for a very interesting 2 back rotation.

Posted by: ddrcoaster | March 1, 2011 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Lavar just said that keeping Haynesworth "sets a bad presidents". Wow F'in Wow v

Posted by: Diesel44 | March 1, 2011 3:43 PM |

You mean the president of retaining a disgruntled player who has publicly voiced his displeasure of his perceived treatment by the organization?

Yeah, he'd know nothing about that.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | March 1, 2011 3:47 PM | Report abuse

If you were a GM for another team, how much would you give up for a guy that played only 8 games last season (playing hard only 50% of the time according to his head coach), fought with his coaches from training camp on, refused to talk to his head coach, and was ultimately suspended the final 4 games for "conduct detrimental to the team"?

Posted by: Alan4 | March 1, 2011 3:17 PM | Report abuse
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I actually like the message it sends: "Don't think you are going to take our money and run".

RI tends to be a little shortsighted and think that it's best to just treat these guys like cancer and get rid of them.

But here's the reality: We are going to need hired guns even if we draft well and often. That's just the nature of the NFL.

But this announces that Snyder Bank has beefed up its security system, and that there are repercussions for attempted robbery. Players will think twice about their commitment level when that contract is in front of them.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | March 1, 2011 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Lavar just said that keeping Haynesworth "sets a bad presidents". Wow F'in Wow v

Posted by: Diesel44 | March 1, 2011 3:43 PM

This is a guy who's on the payroll of the Washington Whacakadoodle Post. English is optional.

Posted by: beep-beep | March 1, 2011 3:48 PM | Report abuse

According to some rumors, Aikman liked his balls on someone's seat.

Posted by: DikShuttle | March 1, 2011 3:49 PM | Report abuse

dockery released apparently

Posted by: connskins | March 1, 2011 3:50 PM | Report abuse

...the Seahawks are lacking in the run game and could use CP.

Leon Washington finally gets his long-term deal

Posted by Mike Florio on March 1, 2011, 2:11 PM EST

Running back Leon Washington has been angling for a long-term deal for a long time. He finally has gotten one.

Posted by: kerzon417 | March 1, 2011 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Doc cut. Zeke probably thinks we should have gotten a 5th for him.

Posted by: Diesel44 | March 1, 2011 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Regarding the bloated DoveBar Eclairrington:

I'm cool with dumb athletes.

I'm cool with smart athletes.

Nothing is more funny than a dumb athlete assumes he's smart - as Arrington does, forever!

Knowimsayin'?

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | March 1, 2011 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Pats gave up a 4th for Randy Moss who at that time was suffering from nagging injuries, unwillingness to play, character issues, and took a lot of plays off.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | March 1, 2011 3:32 PM


Moss was catching passes from Aaron Brooks and Andrew Walter (who?) on a 2-14 Raiders team whose coach was about to be fired... that would give anyone a bad attitude.

But Moss only missed 6 games in his entire (then) 9 year career before the Pats took him.

Posted by: Alan4 | March 1, 2011 3:52 PM | Report abuse

There goes Alan and his facts again...

Posted by: PlayAction | March 1, 2011 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Alan, What about the defenisve picks? Those seem to put us at 56% success rate if you're using 'productive pro' as your measure.

It's not AMAZING, but we're batting over .500 - that's not too bad, is it?

Posted by: DikShuttle | March 1, 2011 3:55 PM | Report abuse

...the Seahawks are lacking in the run game and could use CP.

Leon Washington finally gets his long-term deal

Posted by Mike Florio on March 1, 2011, 2:11 PM EST

Running back Leon Washington has been angling for a long-term deal for a long time. He finally has gotten one.

Posted by: kerzon417 | March 1, 2011 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Leon Washington is mainly used for kick/ punt returns, and he is very good at it. As for running the ball, it seems like the Seahawks don't want him in that department since he barely ran the ball last year. Justin Forsett and Marshawn Lynch carried the load there, and neither of them were very impressive.

Posted by: ddrcoaster | March 1, 2011 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Moss was catching passes from Aaron Brooks and Andrew Walter (who?) on a 2-14 Raiders team whose coach was about to be fired... that would give anyone a bad attitude.

But Moss only missed 6 games in his entire (then) 9 year career before the Pats took him.

Posted by: Alan4 | March 1, 2011 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Wow, you sure opened my eyes. I mean whew mind totally blown. you mean to tell me that Randy was on a bad team with a terrible supporting cast and had a coach that was hard to get along with? That's way different than the situation we have here...

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | March 1, 2011 3:57 PM | Report abuse

There goes Alan and his facts again...

Posted by: PlayAction | March 1, 2011 3:55 PM

Facts should be banned on RI. They ruin so many good theoretical debates up here.

Posted by: beep-beep | March 1, 2011 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Portis has another 1-2 years. Maybe he can finish his career as Petersen's back-up in Minnesota.

Posted by: coparker5 | March 1, 2011 3:59 PM | Report abuse

"I'm not going back to read the past few days of comments.....

Just wanted to get a take on what RI is saying about CP? Is there still a for him/against him attitude? I surely hope not.

And, I am tired of these Sportstalkers on the Radio (Looking at you Kevin Sheehen and Tom Lovero!!) talking about CP's release is the end of a bad time in Redskins History where all they did was over spent on Free Agents.

Hello!! This was all Joe Gibbs 2.0.....not Vinny, not Danny....ALL GIBBS...lets not forget about Brunell. That's a 2nd and 3rd rounder right there....

And it's like all they and some others only remember the last 3 years. Or when Zorn went 6-2, it was Zorn or the 'line broke down in the 2nd half'.....

I could prob type for a while but I would end it here.....Why does no one talk about maybe the sudden tragic unexpected murder of ST21 might have Fcuked things up in Redskins Country???? If he was alive now, he would be at the elite level with Palamalu and Reed, no one else....

-4thfloor"

Dear Dr. Cranky Cancer,
You don't zink zat Meester Snyder iz not in zee pocketz of zee New York NFL Mafia, and zat vee are doomed to zee basement of zee division for all Eternity az long az Meester Snyd-air ownz zee team, like Deangelos iz in zee pocket of zee Yankeez?? Shave on you!!!

Sinzerelee Yourz,
Herr Inzpector Warmaker

Posted by: frak | March 1, 2011 4:01 PM | Report abuse

I think if he is a feature back, it's temporary and on a team that's got injury problems. He's not an ideal 3rd down back even though he's a terrific pass blocker.

Posted by: Samson151 | March 1, 2011 4:02 PM | Report abuse

BTW, we are still paying Albert 9 million more dollars whether he's on the team or not. Personally, I'd rather not be paying him 9 million dollars to sack our own QB when he signs with the Eagles.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | March 1, 2011 4:05 PM | Report abuse

PAskinsfan17,
we were comparing AH's situation to Randy Moss... not so much team situations.

AH can do his thing on the field, to a large extent, regardless of his teammates.

Moss was very dependent on Brooks and Walter for his production. But he still came out and produced--comparable to what Anthony Armstrong gave us this year, statistically--even if he complained.

Giving up a 4th rounder for Moss so Tom Brady could throw to him was not much of a gamble.

Posted by: Alan4 | March 1, 2011 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan on the record as saying he will not release Albert. He will either be traded for proper value or will be back next YR.

Posted by: Diesel44 | March 1, 2011 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Smart statement. Nobody will expect to get AH on the cheap. If they want him, they'll have to give value for him.

Posted by: frediefritz | March 1, 2011 3:11 PM | Report abuse

We gain nothing by cutting him but could pick up a draft pick by keeping him. Good move by us...for once.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | March 1, 2011 3:13 PM

I would be OK with the idea of actually playing him, maybe as a rotational DE or, if he really hates line responsibilities and wants to get to the QB, then make him OLB on a few plays. If the guy will only do one thing and that one thing is to sack the QB, then they should at least let him/make him do that.

Posted by: dcsween | March 1, 2011 4:06 PM | Report abuse

There goes Alan and his facts again...

Posted by: PlayAction | March 1, 2011 3:55 PM

Facts should be banned on RI. They ruin so many good theoretical debates up here.

Posted by: beep-beep | March 1, 2011 3:58 PM

Can we have a trial run at this...maybe start with one day a week...Fact Free Fridays?

Posted by: PlayAction | March 1, 2011 4:12 PM | Report abuse

PAskinsfan17,
we were comparing AH's situation to Randy Moss... not so much team situations.

AH can do his thing on the field, to a large extent, regardless of his teammates.

Moss was very dependent on Brooks and Walter for his production. But he still came out and produced--comparable to what Anthony Armstrong gave us this year, statistically--even if he complained.

Giving up a 4th rounder for Moss so Tom Brady could throw to him was not much of a gamble.

Posted by: Alan4 | March 1, 2011 4:06 PM | Report abuse

I completely disagree with your assessment. Your claim that Albert can do his thing without help is wrong. Albert can't do his "thing" in the 3-4 as a 2 gap run stuffing NT. His "thing" is rushing the QB. How is that anything close to being able to rush the QB as a 1 gap 4-3 DT? It's a completely different position. It would be like asking Randy Moss to play tight end. Albert's Andrew Walter in this situation would be the defensive scheme for those folks at home.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | March 1, 2011 4:13 PM | Report abuse

I was sitting in sec 106 row 8 seat 5 at that game. He threw the ball up in the stands and I got a hand on it. Could have caught it but would have had to demolish my then girlfriend. I made the wrong decision.

Posted by: wireman65 | March 1, 2011 3:37 PM

Haha...oh well...Dan Marino couldn't have thrown the ball to my seats.

Posted by: PlayAction | March 1, 2011 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Cam Newton could reach you in the upper tier, even on a screen pass.

Posted by: frediefritz | March 1, 2011 4:17 PM | Report abuse

If you were a GM for another team, how much would you give up for a guy that played only 8 games last season (playing hard only 50% of the time according to his head coach), fought with his coaches from training camp on, refused to talk to his head coach, and was ultimately suspended the final 4 games for "conduct detrimental to the team"?

Posted by: Alan4 | March 1, 2011 3:17 PM

All the more reason to play the guy. Both sides have an interest in rehabilitating the guy's image.

Posted by: dcsween | March 1, 2011 4:17 PM | Report abuse

I would be OK with the idea of actually playing him, maybe as a rotational DE or, if he really hates line responsibilities and wants to get to the QB, then make him OLB on a few plays. If the guy will only do one thing and that one thing is to sack the QB, then they should at least let him/make him do that.

Posted by: dcsween | March 1, 2011 4:06 PM | Report abuse

I like that idea too. I mean why the heck not? We may as well get something out of him. Even just doing that keeps him off of our opponenets team.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | March 1, 2011 4:18 PM | Report abuse

dockery released apparently

Posted by: connskins | March 1, 2011 3:50 PM

Did you hear that? A tree fell in the forest and nobody was there to hear it.

Posted by: dcsween | March 1, 2011 4:19 PM | Report abuse

I would be OK with the idea of actually playing him, maybe as a rotational DE or, if he really hates line responsibilities and wants to get to the QB, then make him OLB on a few plays. If the guy will only do one thing and that one thing is to sack the QB, then they should at least let him/make him do that.

Posted by: dcsween | March 1, 2011 4:06 PM | Report abuse
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So if he want's to eat Twinkies on the sideline we should truck in a vending stand to each game so he can be the best he can be?

Please. He was contracted to play in the general vicinity of the D line and grab man boobies for a living for lots of money. He either grows a pair or rides the pine.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | March 1, 2011 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Dockery's contract was for $3.8 million next season, with an additional $1 million roster bonus.

Seems a little steep for a guy you keep on the inactive list on game day. Not a ton of tricky decision-making on that one.

Posted by: dcsween | March 1, 2011 4:22 PM | Report abuse

PAskinsfan17

I didn't say AH could do his thing ENTIRELY without help. I said he can do it to a LARGE extent.

If AH has two people trying to block him, he's being effective. His coaches don't always ask him to go after the QB, so he can be effective in many ways. The problem is, he's not even getting on the field lately.

You wanted to compare Moss to AH by saying Moss "suffering from nagging injuries, unwillingness to play, character issues, and took a lot of plays off".

But Moss missed only 3 games the season he was traded. He missed only 6 games in the 9 years before he was traded.

AH played 8 games this year, and 12 games the year before. Moss was producing before being traded; AH isn't producing because he's not on the field.

You assertion doesn't hold up, because Moss was staying on the field. And that's what makes it a faulty comparison. AH's trade value will be more damaged than Moss because, among other things, he's just not getting on the field.

Posted by: Alan4 | March 1, 2011 4:25 PM | Report abuse

1. Get rid of that green screen Washington Post. This isn't 1980 and your are embarrassing yourself with such cheep cheese. No one with a quantum of self respect in the industry still thinks green screen is cool. Except weather men.

2. I heard Barry say that they were calling Portis an MVP candidate in 2008. I don't remember that. I remember Theisman saying that Jason Campbell was his MVP for those first 8 games.

Posted by: alex35332 | March 1, 2011 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Dockery's contract was for $3.8 million next season, with an additional $1 million roster bonus.

Seems a little steep for a guy you keep on the inactive list on game day. Not a ton of tricky decision-making on that one.

Posted by: dcsween | March 1, 2011 4:22 PM

No doubt...and with the savings offer Gano an extra 50 big ones for every field goal he makes...maybe that'll straighten out his head and his leg...and win us a few extra games.

Posted by: PlayAction | March 1, 2011 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Best fit for a healthy Clinton Portis would be Phoenix.

Posted by: 15of18 | March 1, 2011 4:29 PM | Report abuse

1. Get rid of that green screen Washington Post. This isn't 1980 and your are embarrassing yourself with such cheep cheese.


Posted by: alex35332 | March 1, 2011 4:26 PM

Zeese -- They're featuring LaVar Arrington as an expert commentator and you're worried about a green screen?

Posted by: beep-beep | March 1, 2011 4:32 PM | Report abuse

He either grows a pair or rides the pine.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | March 1, 2011 4:21 PM

If I were the guy writing the checks, I would rather have some production, even if its not what I initially bargained for, than no production. Testosterone from the head coach might start to change the culture of the locker room, but I still want something for my money. If he starts playing again, at least if someone has a mid-season injury replacement need he would have some value based on recent film footage.

Posted by: dcsween | March 1, 2011 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Doc beeps

Posted by: kerzon417 | March 1, 2011 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Best fit for a healthy Clinton Portis would be Phoenix.

Posted by: 15of18 | March 1, 2011 4:29 PM

Yeah, great for a "healthy" Clinton Portis. He left the league two years ago. Best fit for the actual Clinton Portis is retirement.

Posted by: beep-beep | March 1, 2011 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Alan I just don't get your point. Are you trying to say no one will give up a pick for fat al because he missed some games? He has always missed games and still got multiple 100 million dollar offers. That argument just seems a little weak.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | March 1, 2011 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Alan I just don't get your point. Are you trying to say no one will give up a pick for fat al because he missed some games? He has always missed games and still got multiple 100 million dollar offers. That argument just seems a little weak.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | March 1, 2011 5:13 PM

Missed some games? He's played 20 out of 32 games for the Skins. No one is going to give much for a part time player... just ask Portis.

Posted by: Alan4 | March 1, 2011 5:34 PM | Report abuse

He'll be on a roster if he wants to be. If he doesn't want to play football, he won't accept a deal close to the league minimum with incentives for making the gameday roster and other performance benchmarks.

And he'll probably wear #21.

Posted by: csh2000 | March 1, 2011 6:33 PM | Report abuse

I can't see him sitting still. He'll be somewhere.

Posted by: glawrence007 | March 1, 2011 9:50 PM | Report abuse

I think Portis will be on another team if he decides to do what LT did in his offseason after before or after signing with the Jets. He said he went to a trainer( I don't remember his name) and he did all these different exercises that strengthened his body and that helped to prevent injuries. As we all saw, he was injury-free and had a decent season in a different role than he had in San Diego. So it's possible to continue your career. Maybe if Clinton did this, he could be successful. Any kind of training doesn't prevent head injuries, but it could reduce muscle pulls and tears and could keep him healthy in reduced roles for a few more seasons. Portis has in my opinion 1-2 more seasons in him, 3-4 if he finds a way to get healthy, either with LT's trainer or by some other way. I hope the best for him and I thank him for the memories. I saw him rush for two TDs in a game vs Houston live this year and my other favorite memories are the 2007 game vs. Minnesota rushing and throwing for a TD and his 1st TD as a Redskin vs. Tampa Bay in 2004. Great stuff. Thanks CP #26. A Redskin for ever.

Posted by: aman3 | March 1, 2011 10:17 PM | Report abuse

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