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Posted at 10:35 AM ET, 02/16/2011

Coin toss: How close are the Redskins from contending?

By Washington Post Sports


Carlos Rogers was on 106.7 The Fan Tuesday night, as Dan Steinberg dutifully noted over on the D.C. Sports Bog. His comments focused on the big question this off-season: Just how close are the Redskins to being championship-contenders in the NFL. Rogers clearly thinks the team needs better players first. Here's what he said:

"We've got to get players in here. I think we've got the right coaches. I wouldn't put it on the coaches, because we don't got players right now to fit, especially on defense, the 3-4 scheme. You're looking at teams that are very successful, as in the two Super Bowl teams, you're looking at their player personnel, we're nowhere close to them. And I can't speak from the offensive point of view. I know they want to make changes, bring in some more players, receivers. I don't know what's gonna happen over there. But from the outside, we've got to get more players to give our whole coaching staff a chance."

Do you agree?

By Washington Post Sports  | February 16, 2011; 10:35 AM ET
 
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little to no chance. Sure it's players but it's also coaches. The coaches are the reason certain players are obselete.

Contending? light years away.

Posted by: bangkokben | February 16, 2011 11:43 AM | Report abuse

We need upgrades at five of the front seven and a replacement for Fletcher and a free safety that can tackle but are biggest need is qb because the coaches effed that up. So if they can't make that pick how are they going to pick three d-lineman? As good as Shanahan is at finding running backs he' equally bad if not worse at finding d-lineman.

Posted by: bangkokben | February 16, 2011 11:47 AM | Report abuse

are/our whateves

Posted by: bangkokben | February 16, 2011 11:49 AM | Report abuse

"We've got to get players in here. I think we've got the right coaches. I wouldn't put it on the coaches..."

Smart comments from a guy looking for a new contract.

Posted by: Alan4 | February 16, 2011 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Do you agree?

By Washington Post Sports | February 16, 2011; 10:35 AM ET

Look, for things to change the culture has got to TOTALLY change. It started last year, but we've got to weed out the slackers and troublemakers. The players that are left, who are what Gibbs called 'character guys', need to buy into the system, then new guys can be brought in to be taught the systems. By building through the draft and picking up role players in Free Agency, we should, be able to compete in 2012, and that's if we don't trade away next year's picks. Until then, little things like Haynesworth's road rage and Banks' stabbing have to stop.

Posted by: monk811 | February 16, 2011 11:53 AM | Report abuse


Secondly, I'm ignoring him because he is boring to schtick on. I'll pull a line from beep:

"His schtick is weak, do you want fries with that?"

Posted by: monk811 | February 16, 2011 11:35 AM |

You are ignoring me because you have nothing worth posting, with the exception of your childish prattle, you never add anything worth reading, fool.

Carlos Rogers, another loser on a team full of losers. Dream on another decade, Redskin fools.

Posted by: Flip_Flop | February 16, 2011 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Hey Sock Puppet Gang...the guy who calls you idiots and morons just typed that Shanahan was desperate and "excepted" the Redskins' head coaching job.

It's right there on the tee for you. What'cha got?

Posted by: MColeman51 | February 16, 2011 11:02 AM |

Flip_Flop can't spell hahahahaha boooyah!

Posted by: PlayAction | February 16, 2011 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Hmm, we need 5 defensive starters, 4 defensive backups, 4 offensive starters, 3 offensive backups, and a punter. We have 2 draft picks in which we can expect to find starters and we may be able to pull 1 or 2 quality backups with the rest of the picks. Even if we get all the players we need we will still need a year or two for them to gel. I'd say it will take us 3 years to get a competitive roster and maybe 2 more years for them to gel. I'm guessing we'll be back to being respectable in 5 years if we play our cards right. We have to undo a decade and a half of terrible decisions. It won't happen overnight.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | February 16, 2011 12:00 PM | Report abuse

I tossed my coin, and it came up Tails, which means Steinberg doesn't know what he's talking about!

Coin Toss: Can puppets toss coins without hands?

Posted by: monk811 | February 16, 2011 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Hey Sock Puppet Gang...the guy who calls you idiots and morons just typed that Shanahan was desperate and "excepted" the Redskins' head coaching job.

It's right there on the tee for you. What'cha got?

Posted by: MColeman51 | February 16, 2011 11:02 AM |

MColeman51, did I pass my spelling and grammar test ? You critical fool.

Posted by: Flip_Flop | February 16, 2011 11:17 AM


I've never corrected another poster's grammar or spelling before. I made an "exception" for the guy whose entire contribution to RI is calling other Redskins fans "fools".

Just keep typing. The unintentional comedy of everything you post is just what we need to while away the slow news days of February.

Posted by: MColeman51 | February 16, 2011 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Flip_Flop can't spell hahahahaha boooyah!

Posted by: PlayAction | February 16, 2011 11:58 AM |

beep beep must have hired you to help police the blog. Look at what you just posted. You criticize beep beep for doing the same thing. Hypocrite, immature fool. How your boss can afford to pay you to do nothing all day is beyond belief. You have the same work ethic as Haynesworth, you hypocrite, immature fool.

Posted by: Flip_Flop | February 16, 2011 12:05 PM | Report abuse

This is a Cuba or North Korea situation.

Nothing is going to go well until the entrenched leader is overthrown or dies.

Snyder 'aint going anywhere.....and neither are my beloved 'Skins.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | February 16, 2011 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Just keep typing. The unintentional comedy of everything you post is just what we need to while away the slow news days of February.


Posted by: MColeman51 | February 16, 2011 12:02 PM | Report abuse

It's FOOL FEBRUARY!!!

Posted by: monk811 | February 16, 2011 12:08 PM | Report abuse

"Coin Toss" Re-Hash..

This RI Post is a Filler while the WaPo staff discusses how to break the news that Nixon/Banks were the actual instigators of the fight. Almost all the major news outlets (ABC/CBS/WRC4 etc) have reported the last 2 days that the video shows this to be the case.. But, so far, nothing on the WashPost.
If true, that would mean almost every element reported about the incident, including his physical condition, has been erroneous.

Posted by: onanygivensunday | February 16, 2011 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Flip_Flop can't spell hahahahaha boooyah!

Posted by: PlayAction | February 16, 2011 11:58 AM |

beep beep must have hired you to help police the blog. Look at what you just posted. You criticize beep beep for doing the same thing. Hypocrite, immature fool. How your boss can afford to pay you to do nothing all day is beyond belief. You have the same work ethic as Haynesworth, you hypocrite, immature fool.

Posted by: Flip_Flop | February 16, 2011 12:05 PM

Point for PlayAction...I win...next!

Posted by: PlayAction | February 16, 2011 12:13 PM | Report abuse

"How close are the Redskins from contending?"


Depends...how close is DC from Beirut?

For real though...it all depends on how quickly we can upgrade the play at the point of attack and the QB position. It's amazing how quickly you can turn it around if you're straight in those two areas...

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 16, 2011 12:15 PM | Report abuse


My apologies are in order for making lite of the obvious. As long as Danny Boy owns this team and makes the hiring decisions, forget winning and except losing. Dream on, fools.

Posted by: Flip_Flop | February 16, 2011 12:16 PM | Report abuse

beep beep must have hired you to help police the blog. Look at what you just posted. You criticize beep beep for doing the same thing. Hypocrite, immature fool. How your boss can afford to pay you to do nothing all day is beyond belief. You have the same work ethic as Haynesworth, you hypocrite, immature fool.


Posted by: Flip_Flop | February 16, 2011 12:05 PM | Report abuse

You actually made 2 good points here, I guess the weed is working!

First, I have noticed a new watch around your sock puppet's neck PA, why didn't you tell me you were earning money on the side?

And second, don't underestimate beep's fry-wage-earning ability. He's the Fastest-Fry-Flipper in the East!

Sorry, just had to say that, back to ITF!

Posted by: monk811 | February 16, 2011 12:18 PM | Report abuse

The Dolphins went from 1-15 in 2007 to to 11-5 in 2008. The main difference was they picked up a veteran QB--not an elite QB, mind you. Injuries to Pennington contributed to consecutive 7-9 seaons for the Fins in 2009 and 2010.

The Chiefs went from 4-12 in 2009 to 10-6 last year. They didn't make any big spash offseason moves to get that improvement.

The Skins should be no more than 2 years from contending. If they're not contending by then, it's indicative that the new regime is faltering. Three years is plenty of time.

Posted by: Alan4 | February 16, 2011 12:19 PM | Report abuse

...ya gotta give Charlie Sheen credit.

Watson: South America for 1000, Moe.

Moe: I am home to Rio and the Amazon.

Charlie Sheen: What is Columbia?

Moe: Sorry.

Ken Jennings: What is Brazil?

Moe: Correct.

Ken Jennings: Sporting events for 500, Moe.

Moe: Soccer players and singers need this to perform.

Charlie Sheen: What are 'white lines'?

Moe: Sorry.

Watson: What is 'pitch'?

Moe: Correct.

Watson: Billards for 2000.

Moe: I am the one ball you do not want to be behind of.

Charlie Sheen: What is the '8-ball'?

Moe: Correct.

Somehow, I knew you'd get that one right.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 16, 2011 12:21 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe the BleacherReport is saying that we should cut Banks. No chance regardless of the actual events. Two "run-ins" with the law in 2 YRs means he needs to get is act together but there is no need to cut the 23 YR old bright spot from last year.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 16, 2011 12:25 PM | Report abuse

We have to undo a decade and a half of terrible decisions. It won't happen overnight.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | February 16, 2011 12:00 PM

Disagree. Sure there have been terrible decisions over the last decade and a half, but the reason this won't get fixed overnight are the terrible decisions of the last two years. Every year there are teams that go from worst to first - just not the 'skins. Overnight they are able to be successful and there are team that make horrible decisions (Jets giving up multiple picks for Favre and then Sanchez) yet make better decisions elsewhere to overcome those decisions - again not our Redskins.

Shanahan has the cupboard bare and the two guys that could've put some value there he has mismanaged so that there are two more needs and less resources to acquire those needs.

From this point on Bruce Allen has to stop acting like a class reunioun co-ordinator and start being the general manager and 'do what's best for the frachise' not what's best for the Shanahans.

Posted by: bangkokben | February 16, 2011 12:27 PM | Report abuse

alan4- rare cosign.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 16, 2011 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Question is contend for what?

Wild Card Spot - Defense: 1 NT, 2 ILB's, 1 OLB, 1 FS. Offense: 1 OT, 1 G, 1 RB, 1 WR.

Division - Defense: 2 NT's, 1 DE, 2 ILB's, 2 OLB's, 2 FS. Offense: 2 OT, 2 G (or 1 G and 1 C), 1 RB, 2 WR, 1 QB.

Superbowl - 3 very solid drafts with all 7 rounds for picks.

Posted by: TwoCents5 | February 16, 2011 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Not sure why people continue to acknowledge the waste of spooge that is flip_flop/nerdinthePDX. The guy is obviously a shut in begging for attention through his one connection to the outside world. ITA.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 16, 2011 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Brandon Banks is a media hoe and a thug, plain and simple.

Cut this hood rat. NOW!

Posted by: RedDMV | February 16, 2011 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Forget the quick fix. The Redskins need a 3-5 year plan to become a contender again.

Posted by: hapster | February 16, 2011 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Contending in what? The NFL? NFC? East?

I give us at least two seasons to win the division, and then another couple of seasons to make some waves in the playoffs, and then, possibly, if all things work out, I could see in about 6 years us having a Championship caliber team.

Somebody on here noticed that a significant number of recent SB Winners had the same coach for at least 5 years, and the exceptions were generally rehashed coaches with at least 5 years experience (Shannahan, Vermeil, Belichick, Gruden, Coughlin) or inherited a juggernaut to begin with (Switzer, Tomlin).

Jimmy Johnson was basically the last coach to completely go from bottom to top in under 5 years, and Billick gets an honorable mention even though he started with an 8-8 team.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | February 16, 2011 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Contending?

Hmmm.

Let's see.

We won 3 games in OT -- so 1 point more by those opponents in regulation would have meant a loss.

We beat dallas because a ref didn't swallow his whistle at a time when a lot of refs probably would have. Another loss averted.

We beat philly when they dropped a game winning TD pass in the end zone.

Which leaves just 1 win, the 3 point W over Chi.

All of our wins was 'skin of our teeth' stuff.

There is a lot of work to do.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 16, 2011 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Marcus Stroud, a 3x Pro-Bowler from 2003-2005, 6'6" 310 lbs. He's been healthy pretty much his entire career and was just cut from the Bills.

cosign RedDMV- but only because I like sarcasm

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 16, 2011 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Marcus Stroud, a 3x Pro-Bowler from 2003-2005, 6'6" 310 lbs. He's been healthy pretty much his entire career and was just cut from the Bills.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 16, 2011 12:35 PM |

Isn't he like 32?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 16, 2011 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Somebody on here noticed that a significant number of recent SB Winners had the same coach for at least 5 years...

And without exception, those coaches had their SB teams in the playoffs by their 2nd season as HC. In other words, it didn't take any of them 5 whole years to field a competitive team.

Posted by: Alan4 | February 16, 2011 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Light Years are the key words here.

After watching the playoffs and superbowl, the skins don't stand a chance anytime soon.

Even ex-skins like Ryan Clark and Randel El stepped their game up and looked like totally different players in another uniform.

And when you realize that your QB has to be accurate and we have a QB who struggles with his accuracy, it's gonna be a long time people.

Posted by: keedrow | February 16, 2011 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Isn't he like 32?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 16, 2011 12:37 PM |

A year older than Rogers but without the baggage. He's also struggled in the 3-4 so he'd instantly fit in with our defense.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 16, 2011 12:41 PM | Report abuse

All of our wins was 'skin of our teeth' stuff.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 16, 2011 12:35 PM

While thats true, you can say that about most games and most teams. Texans game should have been sealed after halftime.

Posted by: PlayAction | February 16, 2011 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Forget the quick fix. The Redskins need a 3-5 year plan to become a contender again.

Posted by: hapster | February 16, 2011 12:32 PM | Report abuse
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Actually, it should be a 10-20 year plan, and our goal should be to match the Pats, Steelers, and Packers, because they've all been to at least 3 SBs with at least two different teams since our last appearance.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | February 16, 2011 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Yes. Carlos, we need new players. Including at your position.

Have a nice rest-of-career elsewhere.

Posted by: p1funk | February 16, 2011 12:43 PM | Report abuse

The Dolphins went from 1-15 in 2007 to to 11-5 in 2008. The main difference was they picked up a veteran QB--not an elite QB, mind you. Injuries to Pennington contributed to consecutive 7-9 seaons for the Fins in 2009 and 2010.

The Chiefs went from 4-12 in 2009 to 10-6 last year. They didn't make any big spash offseason moves to get that improvement.

The Skins should be no more than 2 years from contending. If they're not contending by then, it's indicative that the new regime is faltering. Three years is plenty of time.

Posted by: Alan4 | February 16, 2011 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Are you kidding? The Chiefs started rebuilding in 2006 after their playoff loss. After that they spent the next 4 years getting rid of older players for younger guys. They traded Trent Green, Tony Gonzales and Jared Allen. Willie roaf retired and so did half their offensive line. They cut LJ. They didn't get good overnight. They spent the next 3 seasons with less than 5 wins while building through the draft. The investment started in 2006 when they drafted Tamba Hali and Bernard Pollard. 2007 brought Dwayne Bowe and Turk McBride. The 2008 draft is when all those trades started to pay off. In 2008 they drafted Glen Dorsey, Brandon Albert, Brandon Flowers, Jamaal Charles, and Brandon Carr. By 2009 or when you seem to think they started their turn around they were already in year 3 of a 5 year rebuild. Last year was year 4. Next year is year 5.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | February 16, 2011 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Skins can contend next season. 9-7 is good enough to look back and say the team contended. 10-6 can win the division.

Skins need three defensive players and two offensive players. Btwn the top two draft picks and three dips into the first flight of free agency, it can be done.

But unfortunately the word of the day is LOCKOUT ... so fans will be punished with the longest NFL offseason to date. Btwn the league and the players' association, they really really do not want our money.

Posted by: dcsween | February 16, 2011 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Forget the quick fix. The Redskins need a 3-5 year plan to become a contender again.

Posted by: hapster | February 16, 2011 12:32 PM

This is the marketing message to fill the seats -- COME SEE YOUR LOSING TEAM BUILD FOR THE FUTURE!

Posted by: dcsween | February 16, 2011 12:49 PM | Report abuse

I pity the poor. I pity children without food. I pity the elderly that can barely make it on their fixed incomes. Yet fools like you that sit in the comfort of your home in front of a PC want pity ? Grow up and cherish the things you do have and pity those that are worthy of such need.

Posted by: Flip_Flop | February 16, 2011 11:30 AM | Report abuse


I pity those who are too self important to handle a little bit of good natured ribbing.

I pity those who refuse to acknowlege that they steal their catch phrases from Mr T.

I pity those who come on a blog and tell people they have no lives.

And by 'pity', I mean ITA.

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 16, 2011 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Just one question for old stone hands:

What do you mean "WE"?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 16, 2011 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Yes. Carlos, we need new players. Including at your position.

Have a nice rest-of-career elsewhere.

Posted by: p1funk | February 16, 2011 12:43 PM |

Yea, cause we need to create even more holes right now than we already have...smart.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 16, 2011 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Hey WAPO RI... here's a "coin toss"...

Can Dan survive a year long Lock Out? We all know he is very leveraged vis a vis the 6 Flags debacle.. Johnny Rockets... etc.
If there is a long drawn out Lock Out could he be forced to Sell?

I cant see Skins Fans paying his tickets and concession fees to watch Arena football league replacement players.

Posted by: onanygivensunday | February 16, 2011 12:55 PM | Report abuse

The Dolphins went from 1-15 in 2007 to to 11-5 in 2008. The main difference was they picked up a veteran QB--not an elite QB, mind you. Injuries to Pennington contributed to consecutive 7-9 seaons for the Fins in 2009 and 2010.

The Chiefs went from 4-12 in 2009 to 10-6 last year. They didn't make any big spash offseason moves to get that improvement.

The Skins should be no more than 2 years from contending. If they're not contending by then, it's indicative that the new regime is faltering. Three years is plenty of time.

Posted by: Alan4 | February 16, 2011 12:19 PM

Thing is, mgmt squandered 2010 and actually set us back a good bit.

First, they made a major trade that blew up.

Second, they failed to rid themselves of assets that could have brought them value (Carter, Albert, DT11, Rocky Mc, Dockery, Fred Davis, Rogers) or got rid of guys for less value than they were worth (Campbell, Rock).

Third, they converted to a defense that created additional needs.

Basically, Shanahan could have had a lot more ammo (nearly an entire draft worth) if he'd shed guys effectively and not made the McNabb deal. Then he added to the needs list by making the 3-4 switch. All in all, he took what could have been a 2 year plan in 2010 and turned it into a 3 year plan beginning in 2011.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 16, 2011 12:57 PM | Report abuse

I cant see Skins Fans paying his tickets and concession fees to watch Arena football league replacement players.

Posted by: onanygivensunday | February 16, 2011 12:55 PM

I finally dropped my tickets last year...most of the folks I would tailgate with are dropping theirs this year...even if we don't see a Lockout...I wonder if we'll being seeing many Blackouts.

Posted by: PlayAction | February 16, 2011 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Somebody on here noticed that a significant number of recent SB Winners had the same coach for at least 5 years...

Posted by: mattsoundworld | February 16, 2011 12:34 PM

This is how long recent coaches were with their team before winning the SB--and every single one of them went to the playoffs by their 2nd year:

2003: Jon Gruden - 1st season
2002, 2004, 2005: Bill Belichick -2nd, 4th, 5th seasons
2006: Bill Cowher - 14th season
2007: Tony Dungy - 5th season
2008: Tom Coughlin - 4th season
2009: Mike Tomlin - 2nd season
2010: Sean Payton - 4th season
2001: Mike McCarthy - 5th season

Posted by: Alan4 | February 16, 2011 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: onanygivensunday | February 16, 2011 12:55 PM

TV deal is guaranteed. The owners will be fine.

No scabs..it's a lockout, not a strike.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 16, 2011 12:59 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe the BleacherReport is saying that we should cut Banks. No chance regardless of the actual events. Two "run-ins" with the law in 2 YRs means he needs to get is act together but there is no need to cut the 23 YR old bright spot from last year.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 16, 2011 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Diesel...

I just want to make sure you understand that Bleacher Report is nothing more than fan content. Any moron can sign up and post articles (And many do). I'm no more shocked at anything I read on BR than I am at some of the drivel posted here, or in any comments section anywhere on the intarwebs.

The travesty is that BR has somehow worked SEO so well that they show up at the top of Google searches all the time, leadng some to believe it's relevant content, which it rarely, if ever is.

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | February 16, 2011 1:00 PM | Report abuse

What is there to disagree with?

Posted by: doolindalton1 | February 16, 2011 1:05 PM | Report abuse

QB beeps.

Posted by: Alan4 | February 16, 2011 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Actually, I am kind of mixed about the defense. One school of thought says you have to have the players to fit your scheme. The other school of thought says you have to bend the scheme to fit your players. Somewhere in between the two schools is where the defense fell last year. I know this much:

-If Hall is going to continue to gamble, he needs a free safety with barn burning speed to play deep centerfield to back him up because he will get burned on occasion. Is moving Barnes over the answer?

-If the strong safety is going to continue to play like a linebacker, then they are going to need linebackers that can do better in pass coverage. McIntosh couldn't cut it and Lorenzo Alexander really slowed down at the end of the season. What's lacking in the linebacker corps is speed.

-If the defensive linemen cannot garner more attention we're going to see a lot of Orakpo being shut out. I liked the way Holliday played at the end of the season, and I think Carriker is due for a big season. Nose tackle, by and large is a hole that has not been filled. Bryant might be suitable for running downs, but they need a beast up the middle that can collapse the pocket on passing downs.

-Assuming Hall is the answer on one side (I don't agree with this but I think he's locked in), then who plays the other side? I'd be okay with the team re-signing Rogers. In lieu of that, they don't have the player on the roster to fill his spot and will need to go shopping.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 16, 2011 1:08 PM | Report abuse

zeke- Please stop regurgitating this on a bi-weekly basis.

"Second, they failed to rid themselves of assets that could have brought them value (Carter, Albert, DT11, Rocky Mc, Dockery, Fred Davis, Rogers) or got rid of guys for less value than they were worth (Campbell, Rock)"

Carter- NO
AH- 4th (gamble to keep him failed, but worth it if he pulled his head out of his ass)
DT11- NO
Rocky- NO
Dockery- NO
Fred Davis- NO, he was coming off a great 1/2 YR and a 3/4th in return isn't value
Rogers- who was going to play CB, not to mention no value in return
Campbell- They shopped him two YRs in a row and got what they could
Rock- You've got to be kidding me.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 16, 2011 1:08 PM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 16, 2011 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Point for PlayAction...I win...next!

Posted by: PlayAction | February 16, 2011 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Good job, high puppet! (high 5 for those not in SPG)

Posted by: monk811 | February 16, 2011 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: onanygivensunday | February 16, 2011 12:55 PM

TV deal is guaranteed. The owners will be fine.

No scabs..it's a lockout, not a strike.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 16, 2011 12:59 PM

Thanks... forgot about the guarantee. Wonder if that guarantee has any retro ratings clause? It should.
So, if no scabs or replacements and the Lockout continues into the season, just no games?

Additionally, it will be very interesting if the NFLPA decertifies and challenges the owner's Golden Egg.. Their anti-trust exemption...

Posted by: onanygivensunday | February 16, 2011 1:11 PM | Report abuse

It has been 10 years since they won a division title. And it will be at least 10 more years before they win one. Ah hell they might go the whole century without one.

Posted by: dcinmd1 | February 16, 2011 1:12 PM | Report abuse

same place we've been for 12 years...we r still just 1 player away from the super bowl!!! ;)

Posted by: deadskin | February 16, 2011 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Sign 3 or 4 free agents. Give the rock to Clinton, Santana as WR, draft a couple of safeties and TE to address the needs (age and injuries) in D-Line and O-Line, and trade a couple draft picks for Kyle Orton or Senecca Wallace and PRESTO = instant super bowel CHAMPS!!!!

Posted by: vmrg1974 | February 16, 2011 1:16 PM | Report abuse

... according to H.I.P.P.A. (sp?)

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 16, 2011 11:25 AM

The sp was correct. Health Information Privacy Protection Act.

Irregardless, now I'm thinking Banks and Nixon need to rely on the "I didn't bring any cheese" defense to the counterclaim from the stabby assailant. The only valid reason for pulling a knife (a deadly weapon) on someone is because that person is offering to share some tasty Camembert. Even if Banks or Nixon threw the first punch, the force used in self-defense can be equal to the attacking force. This was in public space, not a personal residence.

Posted by: dcsween | February 16, 2011 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | February 16, 2011 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Bleacher report is just like the RI comment section but with shiny pictures and graphics. All content should be taken as opinion.

Posted by: Stu27 | February 16, 2011 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Contend or not, they will still have that racist name.

Posted by: jmarks09 | February 16, 2011 1:33 PM | Report abuse

This is a Cuba or North Korea situation.

Nothing is going to go well until the entrenched leader is overthrown or dies.

Snyder 'aint going anywhere.....and neither are my beloved 'Skins.

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Love it. Well said. And until the leader is overthrown, I refuse to feed the monster by buying so much as a Redskin pencil...from the dollar store. Can't contribute to Snyder and his losing culture and losing ways. Maybe Shanahan will turn things around, but I've been duped before.


Posted by: katedog | February 16, 2011 1:34 PM | Report abuse

First, shore up the defense in the Draft. Draft Von Miller, DE/OLB Texas A&M or Robert Quinn, DE/OLB North Carolina with the first pick. Then in the second round grab a D.C. kid, Marvin Austin, DT North Carolina or Brandywine, MD native Philip Taylor, DT Baylor. A good third round pick would be S Rahim Moore from UCLA or S DeAndre McDaniel from Clemson. If you can swing it, grab MLB Quan Sturdivant, No.Carolina or OLB K.J. Wright from Miss. St. in round 3-4.

USC RB Allen Bradford and/or FB Stanley Havili should be around in the 4th or 5th round. Trojan corner Shareece Wright or TCU CB Jason Teague should be there in round 5 or 6. Hopefully big WR Virgil Green from Nevada or Boise State WR Titus Young might still be around by the end of Day 2.

Offensively, do not get rid of Donovan McNabb!! He took a beating last year and it showed in the 2nd half of the season. Keep Rex Grossman. Between the two of them, th QB position should be serviceable. A year in the system, and time to heal should help McNabb. He is a proven winner with a few miles left. As far as free agent WR's are concerned, get Randy Moss! Or spend some money and get Vincent Jackson from San Diego. Braylin Edwards from the Jets might also be a good pick-up. OT Jared Gaither from Baltimore would help the O-line as would OG Carl Nicks from New Orleans and could be good FA pick-ups. It might be expensive, but RB DeAngelo Williams from Carolina would help the running game considerably if healthy. K Adam Venetieri or David Akers would upgrade the kicking game.

An intriguing free agent defensive move would be the return of Champ Bailey, but as a Free Safety.

We have to get used to the idea of Albert Haynesworth being a Redskin. No one is going to make a deal for that price. The upside is that he is healthy and might actually want to play next year. Brian Orakpo is a beast when healthy. Deangelo Hall and Carlos Rogers are veteran corners. There is not alot of star power in Washington now, but a few nice picks and carefully selected free agents can get the Redskins back in the thick of things in the weak NFC East.

Posted by: OmegaPrime | February 16, 2011 1:56 PM | Report abuse

How close are the Redskins from contending?

About as close as Albert Haynesworth is to sashaying down the runway at the Milan Fashion Show in a size 16 lime-green Versace evening gown while wearing 5E NIB Louboutin platform pumps in fire engine red.....


(Not to imply that AH would enjoy that sort of thing)


Posted by: FormerBullisBulldog | February 16, 2011 1:56 PM | Report abuse

You can blame it partly on the coaches. Okay, so the Skins talent level is not where we'd all like it to be, but a good coach would look at the personnel he has to work with and determine what scheme will suit them most effectively. A mediocre coach will spend 3 years building a roster that fits his preconceived notion of the only scheme that can win in the NFL. Then he'll probably meet with only modest success for a few years and get fired. Let's find a young creative coach!

Posted by: Racquetbob | February 16, 2011 2:14 PM | Report abuse

FormerBullisBulldog wrote:

How close are the Redskins from contending?

About as close as Albert Haynesworth is to sashaying down the runway at the Milan Fashion Show in a size 16 lime-green Versace evening gown while wearing 5E NIB Louboutin platform pumps in fire engine red.....

(Not to imply that AH would enjoy that sort of thing)

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Keep your fantasies to yourself.

Posted by: katedog | February 16, 2011 2:14 PM | Report abuse

We will be in contention when Shanny's contract is up for renewal unless he creates a system relative to the type of personnel he has. 3-4 Not happening when you turn immobile d-linemen into LB's. This was a painful year to watch. From a top 10 "D" into last with the same personnel. How's that for great coaching?

Posted by: ih8dallas2 | February 16, 2011 2:15 PM | Report abuse

FormerBullisBulldog wrote:

How close are the Redskins from contending?

About as close as Albert Haynesworth is to sashaying down the runway at the Milan Fashion Show in a size 16 lime-green Versace evening gown while wearing 5E NIB Louboutin platform pumps in fire engine red.....

(Not to imply that AH would enjoy that sort of thing)

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Keep your fantasies to yourself.

Posted by: katedog | February 16, 2011 2:14 PM | Report abuse

LOL!

No katedog, I think that this is more your sort of thing

Posted by: FormerBullisBulldog | February 16, 2011 2:45 PM | Report abuse

I no longer have any expectation for the Skins to compete. I just enjoy the Jerry Springer-type dysfuntion. I tune into the Ravens games to watch football.

Posted by: coparker5 | February 16, 2011 2:49 PM | Report abuse

" we've got to get more players to give our whole coaching staff a chance."

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Yea that's about the size of it , and it will take some time too , a decade + of Snyder/Ceratto incompetence will not be un-done in just one or two seasons ... Now that Vinny is gone & Snyder has (apparently) handed control of football matters to someone else there's a chance 'Skins could get there , but unfortunately we long-suffering 'Skins fans are going to have to hold our noses and continue to be patient a bit longer ...

Posted by: RoidRage | February 16, 2011 2:54 PM | Report abuse

We are not close to contending. And that is a major problem with Redskins front office. Snyder and Cerrato set us back years. And Shanahan double whammied the situation by changing to 3-4 when we don't have any 3-4 players. It will take the defense a few years to be a good defense again.

We need to draft lineman and linebackers that fit the 3-4 and don't go out and try to sign old free agents like we always do. Draft by best available in three categoreis: oline, dline, and linebackers. Fill in skill players after getting lines.

I am afraid our front office will try to sign the players in free agency and that will make the rebuilding longer.

Posted by: sruppert | February 16, 2011 4:09 PM | Report abuse

The way the Redskins are looking at it I would think they would know by now they will have the Draft first and be lucky to squeeze in free agency before the teams are ready to play the season. Now with that in mind they only have two choices in the draft until the 5th. round. Therefore you have to fill the two spots most needed. Right now that would be DE and LB. Miller and Quinn aren't projected to be there when the Redskins draft. There are several DE's they could draft. However there are only 3 or 4 LB available in this draft.(3-4 LB's) So they must draft a 3-4 LB with the tenth pick and a DE or DT with the second pick. The kid from Baylor might be there in the 2nd. round. Grab him.

PLEASE don't pick a QB this year. Donovan will do well enough with Grossman as backup.

Posted by: pechins | February 16, 2011 7:56 PM | Report abuse

Yes, we will be ready to contend when football resumes in 2012.

We were 3-1 against NFC playoff teams in the 2010 season.

We will have 2 drafts before we play again after the lockout.

We will fill in the final pieces with free agents.

Posted by: rb-freedom-for-all | February 17, 2011 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Just how close are the Redskins to being championship-contenders in the NFL?

Not as far as everyone thinks. Free Agency has caused a lot of parody in the NFL, you still have a few dynasty like teams in the Steelers, Patriots and Ravens, but they are aging. Despite what the "experts" say at the Extra Stupid Pinheads Network, with a solid qb and some additions to the defense the Redskins have as much chance of going to the Superbowl next year as any team.

Let's not forget, we did beat the Superbowl champs this year... any NFL team with coach Shanny at the helm and Danny writing the big checks has a shot.

Posted by: rodskin | February 19, 2011 2:39 PM | Report abuse

As long as Snyder makes these horrific moves like suing a newspaper and holding on to al having a 3rd tier qb were screwed i'm not even sure we will be a contender under shanny. We have at best 8-10 very good players no ol no dl on and on i'm pretty sure within 4-5 years probably 3 shanny is gone we need a GM a strong one our coach does not have time to build a team and think he's a player picker the only bright thing in this upcoming year is vegas takes bets on anything put down 1k on the skins finishing last in the division. Good As Gold

Posted by: southportwave | February 19, 2011 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Contending for what? They own the NFC-East Cellar, do you expect them to maybe contend for some other division cellar this year?

Posted by: JCM-51 | February 20, 2011 5:30 PM | Report abuse

It is not the margin of wins but losses and 10 losses by 105 points gives Carlos Rodgers credence that they are not near competitive.

Posted by: optodoc | February 21, 2011 7:31 AM | Report abuse

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