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Collins Gets Nod as Brennan, Daniel Battle

For the fourth consecutive season, Todd Collins will be the Redskins' backup quarterback, and Colt Brennan is in a battle with rookie Chase Daniel for the No. 3 job, Coach Jim Zorn said today after practice at Redskins Park.

When camp began, Brennan supposedly was competing with Collins for the right to be starter Jason Campbell's primary backup. But Collins, who will be in his 15th season, solidified his standing when he went 8 for 11 with 70 yards in a preseason-opening loss to the Baltimore Ravens.

"We saw that Todd was not willing to kind of bow down and give up his No. 2 spot," Zorn said. "So the competition is for the No. 3 spot, and Chase is making a statement about that."

In his pro debut, Daniel threw two second-half touchdown passes to rally the Redskins to a 17-13 victory over the Pittsburgh Steelers on Saturday night at FedEx Field. The former University of Missouri standout completed six of eight passes for 58 yards and scrambled 22 yards for a first down.

"He had a very productive game. He did a lot of good things," Zorn said. "He had a big scramble for a first down and showed he could move around out of the pocket. He was accurate with most of his throws. He knew what to do and I think he'll continue to improve. So, yeah, he helped himself, and there's a real battle going on right there."

Brennan achieved cult-hero status with fans on the strength of his impressive statistics in preseason as a rookie, but the second-year player has struggled in the team's two preseason games to. He went four for 12 for 43 yards with an interception against Baltimore, and three for five for 42 yards with another interception against Pittsburgh.

With the Redskins driving late in the fourth quarter Saturday, Brennan tried to force an ill-advised pass into an area of the end zone well covered by four Steelers. Linebacker Tom Korte intercepted the pass.

"Last year, I wasn't playing solid football, but my stats were really, really, awesome," Brennan said. "This year, I'm not really playing bad at all. It's just, unfortunately, my stats really aren't that great.

"You only get so many chances in preseason, that why you've really got to capitalize. I've got two more opportunities coming up. I've just got to make sure to capitalize on these two more opportunities. We've got a game on television this week. I'm excited. I've got two more opportunities to make something happen."

Campbell is expected to lead the first-team offense for at least two full quarters Friday against the New England Patriots at FedEx Field. Daniel and Brennan probably would split time in the final preseason game Sept. 3 against the Jacksonville Jaguars at Alltel Stadium.

Daniel's is listed in the Redskins media guide at 6 feet, which appears to be a stretch. Assuming Daniel's listed height is accurate, he still could encounter problems locating receivers because of the size of NFL lines. Of course, he is not competing for the starting job, and No. 3 quarterbacks rarely play.

So, how tall is Daniel really?

"It depends on whether you measure him with his socks on or off," Zorn said. "He's close. He's close. He would be mortified if we were talking about his height. I've never said anything about his height. I don't tell him, 'Stand taller.' He's only as high as he is. It's a 'God thing.' You know what I mean? What I do is tell him to play ball and tell him to play at the right level."

By Jason Reid  |  August 24, 2009; 5:51 PM ET
 
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Here's J-z making the move

http://www.youtube.com/user/opinionguy2011

Posted by: HIRE_MARTY_S | August 24, 2009 5:57 PM | Report abuse

Great move made by J-Z after practice, saying Collins will be the back-up. Here's the video after practice.


http://www.youtube.com/user/opinionguy2011

Posted by: HIRE_MARTY_S | August 24, 2009 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Second

Posted by: pjente | August 24, 2009 5:59 PM | Report abuse

JR just sent me video of practice today. Wanted to share it wit you Guy's.


http://www.youtube.com/user/opinionguy2011

Posted by: HIRE_MARTY_S | August 24, 2009 6:00 PM | Report abuse

Second

Posted by: pjente | August 24, 2009 5:59 PM


Refresh your page. You're third ! Hey here's some video of kelly making a crazy catch durring practice.


http://www.youtube.com/user/opinionguy2011

Posted by: HIRE_MARTY_S | August 24, 2009 6:02 PM | Report abuse

where are all the "colt brennan is great" people at now?

Posted by: pabrian2003 | August 24, 2009 6:13 PM | Report abuse

A five foot eleven QB is not long for the NFL

Practice Squad and run the scout team for you!

Posted by: noonefromtampa | August 24, 2009 6:21 PM | Report abuse

But yes, LH, we can quit the JC debate for now.

Posted by: psps23

Oh, but the debate rages on!

Agree with one of the Junkies from this morning: JC limited reps= FO and Zorn confidence; they're all in at this point, so lets see what he can do with the full playbook in the regular season.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | August 24, 2009 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Colt Brennan just wants to be a star man. "We've got a game on television this week. I'm excited."

CUT HIM.

Posted by: BMACattack | August 24, 2009 6:30 PM | Report abuse

Here's my views on Saturday's game:

We won, it's always good to win, wether it's because of the starters or reserves.

The offensive line looks pretty good in run blocking and pass protection.

Ladell Betts is not a good short yardage or redzone runner, he needs perfect blocking and doesn't have the vision to capitalize on seams when the blocking isn't perfect. If Portis got the ball when they were down on the goal line, I'd bet the house he would have scored, there was daylight to the right of Betts, he went to the left.

Orakpo is a beast, our defense could be dominating.

Campbell still is indecisive, and inaccuarate on long balls and short throws.

It's only one game against reserves but C.Daniels looked good, accuarate and good touch on his throws, and he can scramble.

The A.R.E. era of punt returns should be over and handed over to D.Dorsey. (Dorsey should make the team)

Marcus Mason has vision and burst we can't let this guy get away again can we?

The team as a whole came out and played with fire and enthusiasm and played tough unlike the week before.

I'm still concerned with our first team offense and it's only going to be as good as J.Campbell who to me is exhibiting the same negative traits as seasons past.

Marko Mitchell is a keeper, no way is this guy getting cut. As of this moment, he looks better than either Thomas or Kelly.

Posted by: 72Redskins | August 24, 2009 6:41 PM | Report abuse

I'm proud of you 72... and I agree with everything you just said.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 24, 2009 6:44 PM | Report abuse

This is an appeal to the WaPo blog admin people:

HIRE_MARTY_S is spamming the blog with personal links. I tried to email the blog directly to complain, but there has been no action. I hope this pos(t)er can be admin blocked - it certainly seems deserved at this point. It makes reading through and participating in the comment section of RI posts much less fun.

Posted by: hithere1 | August 24, 2009 6:55 PM | Report abuse

When there is something positive to dwell on I'll make positive comments, if there are negatives I'll dwell on that. It is what it is. Bottom line, I've loved this team longer than some of the posters up here have been alive. I'll be a Redskin fan till the day they shovel the last bit of dirt on me. In that capacity I'm going to dish out complaints and praise.

Posted by: 72Redskins | August 24, 2009 6:56 PM | Report abuse

thanks scamp75

Posted by: 72Redskins | August 24, 2009 6:57 PM | Report abuse

beeps

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 24, 2009 7:07 PM | Report abuse

gotta add to the bromance, 72 and scamp, I agree completely with a caveat: JC did appear a little bit more decisive, though obviously not more effective. Hope everything else translates to coaching decisions (cuts) and the regular season (elevated play).

Posted by: RomoLongballs | August 24, 2009 7:10 PM | Report abuse

Now, I'm as concern for our head coach as I am for our quarterback abilities; after Zorn saying JC had a solid game and didn't realize that he was 1 for 7. Forget the battle for 3rd team QB; who cares? The battle should be for 1st team QB. Russell, Young, Anderson,Smith, McNabb and Jackson were all benched for performance reasons at some point last year. Collins looks ready to compete for the starting position. I'm not saying drop JC now, but if by week 4, he's not producing; Collins comes in.

Posted by: elderdave1 | August 24, 2009 8:05 PM | Report abuse

So the QB with the worst stats from the Steelers game has been declared Starter for the Season with two preseason games to go!!
Two reasons..

If we are lucky...
Snyder is working on a Trade before the deadline... And JC needs to be considered a Starter.

Or, most likely, JC is Starting because of the size of his Contract..which is 20 times the amount of Todd Collins who showed against Pittsburgh, to be the better QB by far.....

to repost..
This is why other NFL franchises are more successful than the Skins in personnel development??

The Pats (who I am not a fan of since spygate) are a good example of how a team should be built and remain competitive.

They play the better player, not the size of their Contract.

Snyder is the driver for this 10 year misguided Redskin modus operandi...... Its a classic business case of "return on investment".. And Snyder wants his ROI...
Thats why Collins didnt start last year (makes about one twentieth of JC)... Even though he is clearly the better QB.

Pats HC Belichick always states in the media, that the player that "wins" practice, plays on Sunday. Regardless of Contract size.
This is why the Pats always uncover and develop new talent.... Belichick learned this when he was Parcell's assistant.. And look what Parcell's has done the last 18 months with the Dolphins...same approach.

And it is probably why Redskin's players never seem to show the same passion as other teams... Why try to succeed if the guy playing ahead of you stays or has the edge, due to his Contract size?
This Redskins management problem is well known among the league's head coaches.. And it is most likely why the likes of Spags and others didnt want to be the Redskins Head Coach.

It will be interesting to see the upcoming Cuts.. Last year the two top performing players in preseason were cut.. Mullen at WR and Mason at RB.. Not much invested in them.. And not selected in the Draft...

Will Zorn man up and make a stand this year and say, forget the Contract size or Draft position, lets keep and play the best players?

Looks like he wont.. and is towing the company line by naming JC the Starter who had the worst performance against Pittsburgh two days ago..

2009 a redux of 2008..

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | August 24, 2009 8:21 PM | Report abuse

I think Daniel's has a lot of potential, more so than colt. I am not part of the colt cult, although I thought he looked good the first preseason. But he still trys to force it and makes dangerous decisions.

No doubt Daniels has a lot to learn and shouldn't be number one this season, but they have to find a way to keep him or I feel they will regret it. dito for marko. If they release either Daniels or Marko, the skins are fools.

Posted by: DrWho2 | August 24, 2009 9:16 PM | Report abuse

HIRE MARTY S- U R SCUM!

Posted by: KurtShanaman | August 24, 2009 9:20 PM | Report abuse

This is an appeal to the WaPo blog admin people:

HIRE_MARTY_S is spamming the blog with personal links. I tried to email the blog directly to complain, but there has been no action. I hope this pos(t)er can be admin blocked - it certainly seems deserved at this point. It makes reading through and participating in the comment section of RI posts much less fun.

Posted by: hithere1 | August 24, 2009 6:55 PM | Report abuse

I have emailed a complaint as well. Not only is he/she posting spam links to youtube, he/she has posted some out of line comments.

Posted by: BMACattack | August 24, 2009 11:00 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like it is going to be "bye bye Colt" soon.

Here goes the hero of kill-JC crowd

JC will shine this year and most of the posters here will be jumping on his Bandwagon. Mark my words folks. This will be JC's adoration blog by week 4. Or maybe not, but still, Colt will be consuming his namesake by 8 am on Sundays


Posted by: peaceful2008 | August 24, 2009 11:14 PM | Report abuse

Why does Collins automatically get the nod? Experience aside, how is he throwing this year?

And I like Mason and Dorsey over Betts; Ladell is as good as he'll ever be.

Posted by: kahlua87 | August 24, 2009 11:16 PM | Report abuse

Zorn's commitment to Campbell has them both in a DEAD MAN WALKING status........

Posted by: unc1dmo | August 24, 2009 11:35 PM | Report abuse

JC is making a career out of being a rookie QB, what a laugh.

Posted by: hock1 | August 25, 2009 12:23 AM | Report abuse

All so premature! Look at FLACCO vs JC???? And we got ZMAN pickin the 3rd string QB already...once JC gets pulled and Todd Collins breaksdown from old age were going to have a Merry-Go-Round of bad QB's. ZMAN your looking just like a second year ROOKIE with your play calling. And YES it never was the Offensive Line...

Posted by: LongTimeSkinsFan | August 25, 2009 4:32 AM | Report abuse

Todd Collins should be starting. He's a leader. The team has more zip when he's in there. And if they ain't zippin', Todd's rippin'.

Posted by: hz9604 | August 25, 2009 6:25 AM | Report abuse

my vote for 3rd string QB is Jason Campbell

Posted by: bestmick1 | August 25, 2009 6:44 AM | Report abuse

COLT, COLT , COLT AND COLT.
THE SECOND COMING.
LOL

Posted by: shamken | August 25, 2009 7:39 AM | Report abuse

Without a doubt, Colt. As you saw in the Ravens game, he had absolutely no time to throw. The 1st team line did OK for JC and the 2nd team line did a decent job for Collins but when Colt came in, the line just crumbled and he was running for his life on every pass play, and the running game wasn't there either. Against the Steelers, Chase and Colt both had good protection but Chase got plenty more opportunity. Colt was actually looking good until the last pass. Chase did fine, but that's just one game. Colt had a couple of games last preseason when he did better than what Chase showed on Saturday. Also, ultimately, Chase is just too short.

Posted by: jk67 | August 25, 2009 8:57 AM | Report abuse

where are all the "colt brennan is great" people at now?
Posted by: pabrian2003
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Right here... And FYI as bad as Colt has looked he has looked BETTER than Campbell. Chase might be good but you can't tell from one quarter of football.. and sorry 6 ft or 5' 11" that's a problem. It would be crazy not to let Colt be 3rd string.. On the practice squad he would be snatched up in a second by another team. But I'll tell you I love the way he'll let Colt and Chase battle for 3rd.. what he should do is let Jason and Todd battle for first!

Posted by: sovine08 | August 25, 2009 9:46 AM | Report abuse

JC-1
TC-2
CD-3
RANDLE-EL EMERGENCY

Posted by: nivla | August 25, 2009 10:02 AM | Report abuse

Zorn is STUPID!!!!!

This is a non issue being fed to the media for the purpose of getting attention and distracting attention from real issues.

Neither QB will ever be a successful 1st team QB. Neither has the arm to be the man. todd Collins is a prime example of that too. Very intelligent and steady as a QB, but lacks arm strength. All youhave to do is look back to the playoff game against the Seahawks and the ducks he was throwing. when the Seahawks did said we are stopping the run, Collins prove you can throw your team to victory.

Posted by: oknow1 | August 25, 2009 10:26 AM | Report abuse

Neither has the arm to be the man. todd Collins is a prime example of that too. Very intelligent and steady as a QB, but lacks arm strength. All youhave to do is look back to the playoff game against the Seahawks and the ducks he was throwing.
_____
The only long pass Collins threw, which you call a duck, was picked off because Moss never saw it. (But I guess that's Collins fault Moss not seeing the ball?) That pass was no different than the duck Eli Manning threw up in the Super Bowl.. but that receiver saw the ball and made a great catch.. otherwise that would have been picked and the Giants would have lost. Those are the breaks QB's have.. Look Collins, Colt and it looks like Chase's arm all look strong enough to be successful QB's besides if a cannon for a arm was the main factor in a successful QB, Pat Ramsey would be the starting QB in Wash right now...

Posted by: sovine08 | August 25, 2009 12:18 PM | Report abuse

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