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Cooley has broken ankle (updated)

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Tight end Chris Cooley broke his right foot late in the second quarter of the Redskins' game against the Philadelphia Eagles on Monday night.

Cooley was hurt when he tried to change direction.

"He's got a break in his ankle," Coach Jim Zorn said. "It's on the inner side of his tibia. I haven't seen the X-rays yet, but we're quite certain it's broke or fractured in some way; we'll have a better diagnosis tomorrow. He'll be out for a while. I don't know that it's a season-ending injury yet. I can't say that."

Sources with knowledge of the matter said they expected Cooley to be out for the season.

"When it rains, it pours," said center Casey Rabach. "We lost a really good football player tonight, probably one of the best on our offense."

(Photo via @TannerCooley)

By Rick Maese  |  October 27, 2009; 12:07 AM ET
 
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They had to give Heyer help on every darn play!!! Levi will be playing in that spot after the bye week... BMW actually didnt play bad... He is coming back around to his 1st round grade...

Posted by: cocodc1 | October 27, 2009 12:13 AM | Report abuse

Tough break. Now Sleepy has a chance to show what he has. Also be nice to see Yoder get some playing time again.

Posted by: Curzon417 | October 27, 2009 12:14 AM | Report abuse

Yoder??? well maybe.. atleast he can block

Posted by: cocodc1 | October 27, 2009 12:14 AM | Report abuse

Fred Davis had a pretty good game....8 catches for 78 yards or something like that and a TD. He will have to keep that up...but our season is so OVER.

Posted by: Lisa_R | October 27, 2009 12:16 AM | Report abuse

would have been nice to have a TE who can block in there tonight.

Posted by: Curzon417 | October 27, 2009 12:16 AM | Report abuse

I would not play the following players one more down this season:

Jason Campbell
Antwann Randle-El

I would have Portis split time with Cartwright...cause he's hungry!!!

Jerry Gray has a bush!!!

Posted by: rickyroge | October 27, 2009 12:18 AM | Report abuse

Yoder??? well maybe.. atleast he can block

except for extra points.

Posted by: daggar | October 27, 2009 12:18 AM | Report abuse

So what pick do you think we will get in the draft?? Better be top 3 if we have to put up with this crap all year..

Posted by: cocodc1 | October 27, 2009 12:18 AM | Report abuse

Why can't our D create takeaways?!?

The Andre Carter sack and strip in the 3rd QTR was the play for the Skins to get back in it and they couldn't recover it.

Pathetic.

Posted by: elfreako | October 27, 2009 12:19 AM | Report abuse

JC just needs some damn swagger. He needs to go look at old film of QB's like Tarkenton, A. Manning, those QB's that never won crap, but played there butts off.

Campbell can be a good QB, but doggonit he has to make up his own mind that it is all within his control and no one else's.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | October 27, 2009 12:19 AM | Report abuse

Jerry Gray has a bush!!!

Is there some rule against shrubbery?

Posted by: daggar | October 27, 2009 12:19 AM | Report abuse

Jason makes plays when the game is out of reach (2 scores) with less than 5 minutes to play. That is when the opposing team goes into a prevent Defense which perfectly fits Jason's read and release speed.
Or, as he says.. he gets his "rhythm".
+++++++++++++
if we can get an o-line that can constantly stand up to pressure, EVEN JASON (who happens to be terrible) CAN MAKE PLAYS.

Posted by: kman2 | October 27, 2009 12:12 AM

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | October 27, 2009 12:19 AM | Report abuse

Hmmm just saw an ad on CSN postgame show for the Powerball that had a guy named Snyder who is tarred and feathered . . . coincidence?

Jerry Gray is dodging and weaving all the questions about how the defense is going to respond to the crap game of the offense. . . taking some blame for loss etc.

Why is Antonio Freeman on our postgame show?

Posted by: sfskin | October 27, 2009 12:21 AM | Report abuse

Cooley out for the year (probably). Chris Samuels out for the year (probably).

Those are our two best offensive players...

Seriously, who is our number one best offensive player who will start in two weeks?

This is a disaster.

Posted by: JohnnyRyde | October 27, 2009 12:21 AM | Report abuse

Decent game for Fred Davis

No more ARE on punt returns.

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 27, 2009 12:22 AM | Report abuse

hi there...

ok...so are you saying the FUGGIN players don't have some responsibility for this mess???????????

Posted by: rickyroge | October 27, 2009 12:10 AM

Oh man, it's everybody and everything. There need to be some big changes across the board, in my opinion. Yes, players aren't executing. Some of that is lack of talent (*cough,* Will Montgomery and Stephon Heyer, *cough*cough*), some lack of attention to detail, some lack of fire.

I think there are structural issues with team building (neglect Oline for 3 years running in the draft, build from skill position player first - not smart). I think there are personnel issues with the offense system (Campbell, Moss - I love Moss, but not a great WCO receiver IMO). Who decided the system before the coach was hired? The "GM," for some reason. OK, back to the team building issue. Then there is a lack of fire and urgency in EVERY GAME I HAVE SEEN THIS SEASON. There is a real lack of fire in my opinion with this team on offense. That's on coaching. Some playcalling issue with Zorn in certain situations. Coaching.

It's everywhere, for me. Some talent at some skill positions on offense, but more than offset over the course of the game by a very weak offensive line this season. Lack of team-wide culture and stability, which I think is set by the front office first, then filters down to coaching and then players.

Lots of little problems across several areas that reinforce each other over time, especially on offense.

Posted by: hithere1 | October 27, 2009 12:23 AM | Report abuse

Why is Antonio Freeman on our postgame show?

Because inarticulate doesn't come free.

Posted by: daggar | October 27, 2009 12:23 AM | Report abuse

Why is Antonio Freeman on our postgame show?

Posted by: sfskin | October 27, 2009 12:21 AM | Report abuse

Was wondering the same thing...

Posted by: JohnnyRyde | October 27, 2009 12:24 AM | Report abuse

(*cough,* Will Montgomery and Stephon Heyer, *cough*cough*)

Posted by: hithere1 | October 27, 2009 12:23 AM |

Ah, I see what you did there... Coughing on defensive linemen is Stephon Heyer's best move.

Posted by: JohnnyRyde | October 27, 2009 12:26 AM | Report abuse

SEAN TAYLOR is sorely missed.


Yes he is. I hope them boys that killed him get cornholed in the FLA big house on a regular basis.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | October 27, 2009 12:26 AM | Report abuse

"Now Sleepy has a chance to show what he has".

No blocking skills? This shouldn't have been new information.

All American TE my azz. Great job selecting a one dimensional talent so high up in the draft.....dillhole.

F U Cerrato U F N Bookyaak.

Posted by: k_square | October 27, 2009 12:26 AM | Report abuse

"So what pick do you think we will get in the draft?? Better be top 3 if we have to put up with this crap all year.."

Trouble is, there's a huge race to the bottom this year. Skins could finish 2-14 and maybe not have a top 5 pick. And if it's Vinny doing the picking, look for another WR...

Posted by: pyrotech | October 27, 2009 12:27 AM | Report abuse

Deshaun Jackson score...LL30 took a terible angle.

INT TD, no help on the O Line. On a 5 step drop you should have at least 4 seconds

JC17 spent more time on is back than ex wife did

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 27, 2009 12:27 AM | Report abuse

Great, the only player on offense worth a damn is out. Figures!

How can a supposedly professional center not be able to execute a friggin shotgun snap?? It's not his first bad snap in that formation whatsoever. The only player on the O line that can be considered even average for his position is probably Dockery and he is nothing special. Just bush league all around. The whole offense has to be built fromt he ground up and hope that the defense by then is not sorely lacking. Wow, at best, if things are done perfectly, we are probably 3/4 years away from being anything worth talking about.

Posted by: rphilli721 | October 27, 2009 12:28 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, you know, I think BMW looked pretty good tonight on the few plays I was paying attention to only him. Great pass protection on the first half Devin Thomas TD. Great blocking on a second half screen (destroyed an Eagle linebacker).

Good stuff from BMW, I hope it continues.

Posted by: hithere1 | October 27, 2009 12:28 AM | Report abuse

Don't be too hard on Heyer. Its not his fault that Vinny thought he could play OT in the NFL.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | October 27, 2009 12:28 AM | Report abuse

I'm glad that Rock is trying to simulate fight and attitude in the locker room.

Posted by: daggar | October 27, 2009 12:29 AM | Report abuse

pyrotech, the best thing that they can do at this point is trade that pick for more lower picks... this team is NOT one player away

Posted by: joek443 | October 27, 2009 12:29 AM | Report abuse

No blocking skills? This shouldn't have been new information.

That was actually Davis strong suit in college. You'll have to wait and see how he does in the lineup on a regular basis.

Posted by: periculum | October 27, 2009 12:29 AM | Report abuse

I'm glad that Rock is trying to simulate fight and attitude in the locker room.

Portis attacked the bench with his helmet ... guess that's the only aggressiveness he could show tonight.

Posted by: periculum | October 27, 2009 12:31 AM | Report abuse

"Great blocking on a second half screen (destroyed an Eagle linebacker)".

More like a CB, it was Ellis Hobbs.

Posted by: k_square | October 27, 2009 12:32 AM | Report abuse

Look at this way, we started 6-2 last year and ended the season 2-6. If we take the season in halves and we win the next game, we are ahead of last years pace.

Hope is eternal.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | October 27, 2009 12:32 AM | Report abuse

More like a CB, it was Ellis Hobbs.

Started the play as an LB, lost 20 points of IQ on the block...

Posted by: daggar | October 27, 2009 12:33 AM | Report abuse

Fred Davis will get better at blocking.. Bugel will coach him up.. Im pretty sure Cooley wasnt that good at NFL style blocking right out of college.... And i think Davis is actually bigger than CC

Posted by: cocodc1 | October 27, 2009 12:34 AM | Report abuse

JC just needs some damn swagger. He needs to go look at old film of QB's like Tarkenton, A. Manning, those QB's that never won crap, but played there butts off.

Campbell can be a good QB, but doggonit he has to make up his own mind that it is all within his control and no one else's.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD
_______________

Swagger ain't nearly enough. He doesn't have the talent. He can't be a good QB.

Posted by: chasgiffen | October 27, 2009 12:34 AM | Report abuse

If we are bad enough we might be able to get Okung, by far the best LT prospect in the draft. If we win 4 or 5 games we will be in no mans land. We also need a true Free Safety, Horton/Landry are strong safety's. I wonder if Laron Landry would bring any draft picks. It is not like we are going to be good anytime soon.

Posted by: m_p_holmes | October 27, 2009 12:34 AM | Report abuse

Portis attacked the bench with his helmet ... guess that's the only aggressiveness he could show tonight.

Posted by: periculum | October 27, 2009 12:31 AM | Report abuse

maybe him and his buddy Snyder will go out together to blow up some steam tonight

Posted by: joek443 | October 27, 2009 12:34 AM | Report abuse

hahahahah JC SAID "people have started 0-5 AND STILL MADE PLAYOFFS"....lol please jason. stop it. just say you suck.

Posted by: kman2 | October 27, 2009 12:34 AM | Report abuse

Look at the Eagles recent draft picks: Desean Jackson, Macklin, McCoy RB from Pitt - all explosive and fast.

Ours: Devin Thomas, Fred Davis, Malcolm Kelly.

Cerrato must go.

Posted by: nixx46 | October 27, 2009 12:35 AM | Report abuse

Jason makes plays when the game is out of reach (2 scores) with less than 5 minutes to play. That is when the opposing team goes into a prevent Defense which perfectly fits Jason's read and release speed. Or, as he says.. he gets his "rhythm".

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM
____________

This is right on the money.

Posted by: chasgiffen | October 27, 2009 12:36 AM | Report abuse

One day JC17 may be an average QB now he is a work in progress that is more work than progress.

Posted by: m_p_holmes | October 27, 2009 12:36 AM | Report abuse

That was actually Davis strong suit in college.

Blocking.
In the Pac-10.
Right.

Posted by: daggar | October 27, 2009 12:37 AM | Report abuse

Trade Campbell for a bag of rocks

Posted by: nixx46 | October 27, 2009 12:38 AM | Report abuse

Oops. Still, it was a big block.

And I know overall the Oline is not great, but seriously, Portis looks like he just fishbowled a blunt by himself during the first few offensive series every game this season. Like he took too much Ambien and is sleepwalking his way to the nearest refrigerator for some Velveeta.

Posted by: hithere1 | October 27, 2009 12:38 AM | Report abuse

Of the three DT11, FD86 and MK12, DT11 has the most upside. He shows that he can break tackles and he has pretty good hands. With the season over can we see if he can return kicks, Rock is tooooooo slooooooowwwwww. Rock tries his best but he does not have break away speed.

Posted by: m_p_holmes | October 27, 2009 12:38 AM | Report abuse

they should have a PURGE like the Caps did a few years ago... trade anybody that any team wants for draft picks

Posted by: joek443 | October 27, 2009 12:39 AM | Report abuse

Well, the season's pretty much over. Might as well get as many of the young guys out on the field as possible. They could hardly do any worse.

Posted by: acoberst1 | October 27, 2009 12:39 AM | Report abuse

JC is not the answer, but with this o-line and their average receivers, even Payton Manning would look below average. Tonight JC was running for his life. I don't think his body's gonna make it much longer, and then we'll see this team fall even more with un-mobile Todd Collins in the lineup.

Posted by: akjproductions | October 27, 2009 12:39 AM | Report abuse

Do we own our 1st rd pick for next year cuz it's gonna be high?

Posted by: nixx46 | October 27, 2009 12:39 AM | Report abuse

I can't believe how much the commentators ragged on Campbell, given how poorly the line played! Our rushing game was non-existent, of course they teed off on JC!

The Eagles are 15th against the run and we couldn't even get 70 yards against them.

I hope we haven't traded away all of our draft picks, because 2-14 will make them awfully valuable.

Posted by: Redskinrex | October 27, 2009 12:39 AM | Report abuse

Fred Davis is going to fumble the ball sooner or later again. He may be alright receiving it but is nowhere near as good as Cooley running after the catch. In addition he needs to stay on his feet. He has this tendency to want to leap for more yards and by doing that is taking a bigger chance of fumbling the ball. His blocking today was atrocious. It really says a lot when the Redskins in a max protection scheme can't stop 3 Eagles players.

Posted by: Thundershock | October 27, 2009 12:39 AM | Report abuse

Why is Antonio Freeman on our postgame show?

Posted by: sfskin

Antonio Freeman is from this area and CSN has hired him to be on some of the pre and post game shows.

Posted by: Lisa_R | October 27, 2009 12:40 AM | Report abuse

Portis is slow, see?

Posted by: hithere1 | October 27, 2009 12:40 AM | Report abuse

Portis needs to be fazed out as the every down back. As Gruden and the crew pointed out, he is simply a grinder these days. Meaning if he gets you 4/5 hard running yards you are ecstatic. Regardless of the line, I saw a couple runs where a quick cutback and he could have had a couple of 10-15 yarders. He is simply not that good anymore. No explosion, no cutback ability whatsoever.

ARE should not return another punt bc not only does he muff them, he is not a good returner, period. Perhaps, he should not be a receiver either. You got Thomas and Kelly, might as well give them some OJT to see if they are worth keeping around another season. Not like ARE is tearing it up.

On top of it all, there is simply no team speed at the critical skill positions. Ok, aside from Moss. Our returners, running backs, etc... simply don't scare anyone. We need a Percy Harvin or a Jackson...well, we need a whole lot.

Posted by: rphilli721 | October 27, 2009 12:40 AM | Report abuse

Fred Davis: "College is totally different situation. . . This is the NFL, guys are getting paid to be here. . . College everyone works hard just to get there. . . Here it is more about the individual. . . You have to make the decisions. . . In college coach has a lot more control over the situation. . ."

Posted by: sfskin | October 27, 2009 12:40 AM | Report abuse

Bright spots:
-Haynesworth and Carter played hard
-JC looked so inept and high that there's no way he'll be here next year
-High draft pick next year
-No more expectations for this year so we can just relax and take the beatings we'll be getting

Posted by: nixx46 | October 27, 2009 12:44 AM | Report abuse

Thanks foreskins you cost me two fantasy players tonight, Westbrook and Cooley. LOL

Posted by: zcxnissan | October 27, 2009 12:44 AM | Report abuse

wtf is Kelli wearing? I mean, I guess when you're a 6'3" woman your wardrobe choices might be limited, but somewhere, a couch is crying.

Posted by: daggar | October 27, 2009 12:45 AM | Report abuse

peri-

Not looking to pile on, man, but I'm pretty sure you're confusing Fred Davis with someone else. He holds all of USC's career and single-season tight-end receiving records, but according to the NFL Network's analysis (generally not the most critical):

"As a blocker he is aggressive to gain position and battle, but he still needs to improve his overall strength and technique to be effective in this area at the next level... his concentration seems to lapse when asked to stay and block in-line . . . Not physical on contact and seldom able to control and finish when asked to block vs. bigger defensive linemen...Makes an inconsistent effort to quickly reach the second level and is seldom able to gain position or control the defender (needs to stay with his blocks longer in the open field and will shy away from contact at times)....Needs to improve his overall strength, as he lacks the ideal power and body mass to be an efficient lead blocker at the next level."

I don't know what all that means other than, blocking

Posted by: stevie_in_gp | October 27, 2009 12:45 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, I mean, Campbell is just not working in this offense this season at all. Campbell lovers see the bad Oline and maybe playcalling as the reasons. Campbell haters just see what they say is his true cr*ppy play coming out and dribbling all over the field. Whatever the reason he just has not looked comfortable most of the time during games this season. There are just some fundamental problems with this offense that aren't going away this season, won't be fixed by switching playcallers, and are not being caused by the media or other "haters."

Posted by: hithere1 | October 27, 2009 12:46 AM | Report abuse

Ok I have been very quiet all year. Is it me or is JC just afraid TO THROW THE DAM BALL. Look I kow they are not the same but do you really think Peyton Manning would not find anyone to throw the ball to. JC sits back there like a scared little puppy....AND WHY THE HELL IS THERE NO HOT ROUTE ANYWHERE, every other team has a hot route. And Im sick of all the guys saying has to be the play-calling thats BS Jc just SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Now the think is instead of getting a STUD OL we have to waste yet another 1st round pick on a QB. Is it me or does anyone else out here LOVE GRUDEN he is just what this teams needs someone that wont take any crap from these guys.......
1 more thing I love how these so called NO IT ALLS love to crack...wasnt MATT MILLEN the main reason the Detroit Lions SUCK. And Mike Ditka was he the guy who traded his ENTIRE draft for one Stoner....thats what kills me , these guys seem to forget the crap they did to teams....
ANY COMMENTS WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THEM
LATER

Posted by: obxneric | October 27, 2009 12:46 AM | Report abuse

For whoever asked, Antonio Freeman is from Baltimore. His brother lived on the Eastern Shore through at least 1999.

Posted by: jreddish | October 27, 2009 12:46 AM | Report abuse

DT is being kind of a SJK in the interview. Talking about not getting opportunities. Talking about how wants to be like DeSean Jackson. blah blah blah

Posted by: sfskin | October 27, 2009 12:47 AM | Report abuse

to finish:

blocking

Posted by: stevie_in_gp | October 27, 2009 12:47 AM | Report abuse

I'm sensing some real negativity on the board, tonight.

I think the lasting image of the game was teacher's pet, Portis tossing his helmet at the bench.

Dude sure stoned a guy on a block, tho.

Posted by: TheCork | October 27, 2009 12:48 AM | Report abuse

DEFENSE ROCKED...WITH THE EXCEPTION OF CARLOS ROGERS....cant wait until he becomes a cancer on another team next year.

Posted by: obxneric | October 27, 2009 12:49 AM | Report abuse

OK, so you don't accept symbols, Loseable Type:

blocking is less than receiving for young Mr. Davis.

Posted by: stevie_in_gp | October 27, 2009 12:49 AM | Report abuse

G*DAMNIT

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | October 27, 2009 12:50 AM | Report abuse

I saw progress in some areas tonight. Looked like they actually cared, wanted it. After Rock (who'd of thunk it) had the return, then the run fron scrimage, the D picked it up a couple notches. With any blocking on O, it could have been different. (not a JC apoligest here, but even he looked a bit better) dam those turnovers....

Posted by: msrent | October 27, 2009 12:51 AM | Report abuse

wtf is Kelli wearing? I mean, I guess when you're a 6'3" woman your wardrobe choices might be limited, but somewhere, a couch is crying.

Posted by: daggar | October 27, 2009 12:45 AM | Report abuse

Can the couch play left tackle?

Can Kelli?

Posted by: JohnnyRyde | October 27, 2009 12:53 AM | Report abuse

Anyone see the LATE HIT out of bounds that was called then uncalled, is it me or do the refs just dont call those for us only against the Skins, and that facemask was bs as well...we get no help fron the refs at all, and no thos would not change the outcome , but it is just sad!!!!

Posted by: obxneric | October 27, 2009 12:54 AM | Report abuse

Chris Horton and Mike Sellers, Redskins players yes, greats? no

Posted by: The_Spear | October 27, 2009 12:54 AM | Report abuse

JC missed so many open routes it's sickening. I'm not sure I can watch his bush league ass for the rest of the year. He honestly had at least two wide open long touchdowns if he wasn't such a p in the pocket. I'm not excusing our horrendous line by any means, but JC has proven he can't make plays consistently enough, even with time. Also, how the SJK does someone so tall get so many passes batted, SJK!

Posted by: OffseasonChamps | October 27, 2009 12:55 AM | Report abuse


Why is Steve Young working as an analyst?

Sure he was three tiems the QB Trent Dilfer was, but TD has him beat as an analyst. In fact, Dilfer isa briliant analyst.

But Young was talking about the Redskins "pretty good" offensive line.

Then Dilfer came on later and corrected him.

Lotsa people saying "where are the Campbell apologists."

He's gone next year and that's a fact.

My question is, where are the Snyder and Cerrato apologists.

Because as long as they are making decisions, things won't get better.

This is the team they built. WIth their pattycake Oline and clueless head coach, with their pampered, overpaid just about done RB, to their bingo caller coa....hey he didn't do all that bad.

Has anyone 'splained Rabach's snap yet?

Posted by: TheCork | October 27, 2009 12:55 AM | Report abuse

Can Kelli?

I don't know how long she can sustain her blocks, but it's worth a try. Heyer can do the postgame interviews.

Posted by: daggar | October 27, 2009 12:57 AM | Report abuse

OBX,
Yes, that was a bad NO call. This was a traditional, it's all about the coaches... except the players sucked too!

JohnnyR,

I hung out w/ kelli at the HOF last year, and she's not 6'3", in fact she's a lot cuter in person, than I see on TV.. Stripper shoes w/ 8" heels.

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | October 27, 2009 12:57 AM | Report abuse

Good stuff stevie.

Key phrases that jump out and ring true:

Concentration lapses, not physical on contact, inconsistent effort, lacks ideal power.

Seems like a reasonable 2nd round selection.

Posted by: k_square | October 27, 2009 12:57 AM | Report abuse

My question is, where are the Snyder and Cerrato apologists.
---------------------

Larry Michael would like a word.

Posted by: The_Spear | October 27, 2009 12:57 AM | Report abuse

My last post got blocked....

Cooley out for the season according to nfl.com: http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d813bb3fe&template=with-video-with-comme%20nts&confirm=true

We are totally screwed.

Posted by: JohnnyRyde | October 27, 2009 1:01 AM | Report abuse

1st, how many times does this team keep doing this? ATTITUDE IS EVERYTHING!!!!!!!

2nd, COACHES SUCK!!!
1 a - DANNY SMITH, GET FIRED!! ARE IS NOT A RETURNER, NOR IS ROCK!!!
2 b - 3 possesion game, kick the FG with 8 minutes left..... don't keep going for it on 4th down, THE CLOCK IS THE ENEMY, IDIOT!!!
3 c - Greg Blache, if you have 6 DB's against 2 WRs, NO TD SHOULD BE SCORED!!!!

CLEGG


Posted by: michael_b_clegg | October 27, 2009 1:01 AM | Report abuse

Cork. think CP was pissed no other RB knows how to pick up the blitz. Taking him out on 3rd down isn't a good idea, he does know how to block, and nevermind.

Posted by: msrent | October 27, 2009 1:01 AM | Report abuse

To whomever claimed Davis can block, really?

He got demolished tonight like a child running from an adult.

JC does not throw the ball often bc as Young pointed out he is not a fast read the whole field kind of QB. He is play action pass deep ball kind of QB. Remember the play tonight, where he pump faked to Moss down the sideline, and then threw behind ARE I believe over the middle. As the replay showed, had he simply stuck with Moss, he would have had a wide open receiver for a big play TD. Another missed play. And when your offense is this bad, you can't miss those opportunities. He just doesn't have "it".

Posted by: rphilli721 | October 27, 2009 1:01 AM | Report abuse

JohnnyR,

I hung out w/ kelli at the HOF last year, and she's not 6'3", in fact she's a lot cuter in person, than I see on TV.. Stripper shoes w/ 8" heels.

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | October 27, 2009 12:57 AM | Report abuse

Wasn't me that mentioned her height... I was quoting someone else.

Posted by: JohnnyRyde | October 27, 2009 1:02 AM | Report abuse

Did anyone else think the playcalling was much better tonight? I think the Sherms did a good job, despite the circumstances.

Posted by: OffseasonChamps | October 27, 2009 1:03 AM | Report abuse

Samuel's goes on IR this week as does CC I'm guessing.

Who's out there that can help the Skins? Do we want help for the Skins?

Is it too late to hope to salvage the season? Is it about draft position now?

Not the season I was looking forward to...

Posted by: Curzon417 | October 27, 2009 1:04 AM | Report abuse

Final thought - I'm not even that upset we lost because I didn't expect us to do anything else but lose and look pretty bad doing it which actually makes me more depressed than the losing.

I hate that I've become this fan with my team. I hate that my team has made become this fan.

I'm glad for the bye week. At least my heart won't sink on Sunday.

Posted by: sfskin | October 27, 2009 1:04 AM | Report abuse

DT is being kind of a SJK in the interview. Talking about not getting opportunities. Talking about how wants to be like DeSean Jackson. blah blah blah

Posted by: sfskin | O

Actually, I did not blame Devin Thomas for getting irritated....Kelli Johnson kept asking him the SAME question - just slightly rephrasing it - and the post game crew did the same thing.

The media was particularly annoying tonight - asking Devin, Rock, and Jerry Gray the same damn questions over and over again. And in Zorn's presser they kept harping on how he felt the playcalling went, how he felt on the sideline, et. Nauseating. What was the point?

Posted by: Lisa_R | October 27, 2009 1:04 AM | Report abuse

Chris Cooley was a top 3 player on the team.
He had gotten tripped illegally by on a dirty play... WTF!!! Dang it!!! You all act like it is no big deal. Sorry butt Jason Campbell sucks. And when he does make a good throw the receivers drop passes! Dang. I am mad!! I am Cussing and Swearing. I am doing the best I can to fight for my team as a fan. The shi....t I had to here from the Eagles fans tonight would make a Navy Seal cry. I am sick of this!!!!

Posted by: gawnpostal | October 27, 2009 1:05 AM | Report abuse

My strongest statement about the rest of the Redskins season:

GO CAPS! Seriously, they are a fun team to watch. Ovechkin is amazing. OK, that's all.

Posted by: hithere1 | October 27, 2009 1:05 AM | Report abuse

Is it me or does anyone else out here LOVE GRUDEN he is just what this teams needs someone that wont take any crap from these guys.......

ANY COMMENTS WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THEM
LATER

Posted by: obxneric

I LOVE GRUDEN too. In the booth where he can't do any damage. Man, that guy would get old overnight if I were a player.

This team once had a guy who would not take crap from anyone, and Snyder fired him to bring in a college coach. Nice team he inherited in Tampa Bay. We saw what he left yesterday in England. I'd rather have a coach more like the one who won in England.

Groucho Marx said "I would never belong to a club that would have the likes of me as a member."

Well I would never have faith in a coach that Dan Snyder picked as his coach.

Posted by: TheCork | October 27, 2009 1:06 AM | Report abuse

I miss seeing COMCAST....... My DTV in Texas has dropped COMCAST. Maybe that saved my sanity....

Jerry Gray needs to talk to his DB's about when 6 of them were back against 2 WR's and they ALL got beat for a TD.

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | October 27, 2009 1:08 AM | Report abuse

We are all victims of Cerrato and Snyder. I feel like I've been assaulted and the D.A should be involved.

Posted by: nixx46 | October 27, 2009 1:08 AM | Report abuse

At least the NBA season starts tomorrow night.

Posted by: Lisa_R | October 27, 2009 1:08 AM | Report abuse

My last post got blocked...

Cooley out for the season according to nfl.com: http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d813bb3fe&template=with-video-with-comme%20nts&confirm=true

We are totally screwed.

Posted by: JohnnyRyde | October 27, 2009 1:01 AM

Umm...being totally screwed happened right around Detroit. You saw in that game patterns that persist today.

Posted by: hithere1 | October 27, 2009 1:08 AM | Report abuse

The media was particularly annoying tonight - asking Devin, Rock, and Jerry Gray the same damn questions over and over again. And in Zorn's presser they kept harping on how he felt the playcalling went, how he felt on the sideline, et. Nauseating. What was the point?

Posted by: Lisa_R


I too blame the media for the loss. I will blame them for the next five games the 'skin will lose, too, particularly I blame The POST.

I wonder what questions The Media ask in Boston? Or Indy? Or Denver?

Posted by: TheCork | October 27, 2009 1:10 AM | Report abuse

The dirty Eagles whooped are arse. OH and just so you guys did not hear what I had to hear. E.A.G.L.E.S EAGLES EAGLES EAGLES.

Posted by: gawnpostal | October 27, 2009 1:11 AM | Report abuse

My last post got blocked...

Cooley out for the season according to nfl.com: http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d813bb3fe&template=with-video-with-comme%20nts&confirm=true

We are totally screwed.

Posted by: JohnnyRyde

We're screwed because Cooley's out? We were all screwed the day Cerrato's father planted his seed in his mother.

Posted by: nixx46 | October 27, 2009 1:11 AM | Report abuse

Sorry a** Rabach, just sorry, sorry, sorry. First he hikes the ball to a 6'5" QB's shin, and later I don't know who he hiked the ball to cause it sure wasn't to JC. Zorn needs to be gone, what kind of HC elects to kickoff to an explosive offense like the Eagles to start the game and you are at home. Why not give your offense a chance to score first. I thought Norv Turner was a creampuff but Zorn tops him. To their credit, they are nice guys but don't have a clue. Only in San Diego could Norv have a head coaching job. The Chargers have mad talent on paper. Zorn sounded just like Norv Turner in his post game presser. The guys played hard...yada, yada, yada. Carlos Rogers is already playing 12 yards off the WR and he still get punked deep. FIRE ZORN AND VINNY, NOW!

Posted by: jenksredskins | October 27, 2009 12:23 AM | Report abuse

re-post

Posted by: jenksredskins | October 27, 2009 1:11 AM | Report abuse

At least the NBA season starts tomorrow night.

Posted by: Lisa_R |

Feel my pain, Lisa. I'm also a Clippers fan.

Posted by: TheCork | October 27, 2009 1:12 AM | Report abuse

Er, wait... Just clicked with me... Are you saying that Kelli Johnson *isn't* over six feet tall??? How disappointing...

Posted by: JohnnyRyde | October 27, 2009 1:12 AM | Report abuse

Cooley out for the season... We are totally screwed.

Oh, now we're screwed?

Posted by: daggar | October 27, 2009 1:13 AM | Report abuse

I too blame the media for the loss. I will blame them for the next five games the 'skin will lose, too, particularly I blame The POST.

I wonder what questions The Media ask in Boston? Or Indy? Or Denver?

Posted by: TheCork | October 27, 2009 1:10 AM | Report abuse

Didn't you notice the Mayor sneak onto the field during the Giants game and slap the ball out of Campbell's hand allowing Osi to run the fumble down for a TD? It was all downhill from there.

Posted by: JohnnyRyde | October 27, 2009 1:14 AM | Report abuse

Obx,

The face mask penalty was a face mask, period. The out of bounds tackle was a penalty and we got screwed on that one. There was also at least one play where the DB was all over Moss before the ball got there and no call. Anyway, in no way did the refs have any effect on the outcome of this game. That's just gratuitous whining. You have to be in the game in the first place for any call to really matter.

I have to say the play calling did make more sense to me at times. The roll outs, the rerunning of successful plays, shots to the end zone. Will play calling alone fix this mess? Hell no. But, there were elements that made a hell of a lot more sense.

Posted by: rphilli721 | October 27, 2009 1:14 AM | Report abuse

Speed kills.......... us

Posted by: jenksredskins | October 27, 2009 1:15 AM | Report abuse

FIRE VINNY & ZORN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: jenksredskins | October 27, 2009 1:17 AM | Report abuse

My last post got blocked...
Cooley out for the season according to nfl.com: http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d813bb3fe&template=with-video-with-comme%20nts&confirm=true

We are totally screwed.

Posted by: JohnnyRyde

Strange that the NFL is reporting Cooley is out for the season since Zorn was JUST interviewed and said he has a broken foot/ankle but they do not know how long he will be out. While it may be anticipated, its not yet a definite.

Posted by: Lisa_R | October 27, 2009 1:18 AM | Report abuse

Obx,

The face mask penalty was a face mask, period. The out of bounds tackle was a penalty and we got screwed on that one. There was also at least one play where the DB was all over Moss before the ball got there and no call. Anyway, in no way did the refs have any effect on the outcome of this game. That's just gratuitous whining. You have to be in the game in the first place for any call to really matter.

I have to say the play calling did make more sense to me at times. The roll outs, the rerunning of successful plays, shots to the end zone. Will play calling alone fix this mess? Hell no. But, there were elements that made a hell of a lot more sense.

Posted by: rphilli721 | October 27, 2009 1:14 AM | Report abuse

Agree with this.

Posted by: JohnnyRyde | October 27, 2009 1:18 AM | Report abuse

Feel my pain, Lisa. I'm also a Clippers fan.

Posted by: TheCork | October 27, 2009 1:12 AM

Blake Griffin is out 4-6 weeks now too. Wiz at Mavs is a tough way to open.

Posted by: saltine182 | October 27, 2009 1:20 AM | Report abuse

I'd take Gruden in a heartbeat. Dude built one offense that carried a team to the Super Bowl, then took another team (one that a modern legend of a coach couldn't win with) and won the Super Bowl in the same year.

He turned Rich Gannon into an MVP, made Brad Johnson a Super Bowl winner, helped Jeff Garcia to pro bowls despite having zero offensive talent surrounding him, and even made Chris Simms look like a respectable QB before rupturing his spleen.

If Tampa didn't parlay their sacrifice of 2 first round AND second round draft picks for their 'trade' to get Gruden with the hiring of a no-talent talent-evaluator in Bruce Allen, TB might have actually built themselves something special over there.

Coincidence that Gruden leaves and Tampa goes from a winning franchise with multiple playoff appearances in recent years to one of, if not the worst team in the league? I think not.

Of the current list of retread head coaches out there, only Shanahan should be higher on the Redskins' list. And when you take age into the equation, Gruden might even top the entire prospective coaching tree.

First on the hire Gruden bandwagon.

Posted by: psps23 | October 27, 2009 1:20 AM | Report abuse

I am done Blogging for the rest of the year.
I have went to PG-13 to rated..um Peed off. Later I am out.

Posted by: gawnpostal | October 27, 2009 1:22 AM | Report abuse

Strange that the NFL is reporting Cooley is out for the season since Zorn was JUST interviewed and said he has a broken foot/ankle but they do not know how long he will be out. While it may be anticipated, its not yet a definite.

Posted by: Lisa_R | October 27, 2009 1:18 AM | Report abuse

The NFL.com report is via JLC... so he probably just made it up.

Oops, sorry, I mean his "sources" made it up.

Posted by: JohnnyRyde | October 27, 2009 1:26 AM | Report abuse

Who made the decision to go for it on 4th&goal?
That, and 3rd&23 are the two plays I'd like to erase.

Posted by: daggar | October 27, 2009 1:28 AM | Report abuse

Why don't we have a no huddle offense? Could it be that QB coaching expert JZ can't handle that, as well as the wildcat. Zorn used to run for his life as QB for the Packers and Seahawks, and had a reputation for having alot of spunk. He is not a Head Coach for sure. FIRE ZORN & VINNY!

Posted by: jenksredskins | October 27, 2009 1:30 AM | Report abuse

I hate reposting but this says it all......

OK, YES we do suck! ..........
1st, how many times does this team keep doing this? ATTITUDE IS EVERYTHING!!!!!!!

2nd, COACHES SUCK!!!
1 a - DANNY SMITH, GET FIRED!! ARE IS NOT A RETURNER, NOR IS ROCK!!!
2 b - 3 possesion game, kick the FG with 8 minutes left..... don't keep going for it on 4th down, THE CLOCK IS THE ENEMY, IDIOT!!!
3 c - Greg Blache, if you have 6 DB's against 2 WRs, NO TD SHOULD BE SCORED!!!!

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | October 27, 2009 1:30 AM | Report abuse

Anything is better than 3 straight runs to washed up Portis and then a punt. Or a couple of solid football plays followed by some "trick" play at the wrong time to end a drive. Hell, the now infamous 4th down snap play in the fourth was an attempted rerun of the Thomas touchdown in the first half which apparently (according to the announcers) would have worked again had we been able to execute a simple snap. They even decided to run Cartwright for once, which resulted in our longest run of the game.

So, I liked the play calling, but obviously with these players we had the same outcome. 2-10 is right around the corner. 4-12 is our best case scenario for our final record no matter who is calling plays. Nice!

Posted by: rphilli721 | October 27, 2009 1:32 AM | Report abuse

again, jon gruden wants a piece of the poison apple

Posted by: hezbollaskins | October 27, 2009 1:35 AM | Report abuse

Man, I wish we had a 3rd QB not on IR, someone we could start giving some playing time and experience.

I've been a Campbell supporter all along, but I've finally seen enough. I know our OL sucks, and that it would affect any QB's play, but good OL or bad, you need a QB who will give you something.

I just can't see what he gives us.

Posted by: freakzilla | October 27, 2009 2:06 AM | Report abuse

Freakzilla,

Campbell gives you something. He gives you the deer-in-the-headlights look, he gives you fumbles, timely interceptions, and missed opportunities. That's a lot of giving right there. What more do you want? He also gives you a few glimpses of what a real NFL QB should look like, fortunately or unfortunately.

Posted by: rphilli721 | October 27, 2009 2:29 AM | Report abuse

Man, I wish we had a 3rd QB not on IR, someone we could start giving some playing time and experience.

I've been a Campbell supporter all along, but I've finally seen enough. I know our OL sucks, and that it would affect any QB's play, but good OL or bad, you need a QB who will give you something.

I just can't see what he gives us.

Posted by: freakzilla
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JC is useless.

This season's essentially over, we should bring Chase back if we can get him away from the Saints (don't know if he's on the roster or practice squad) and let him play. Same thing with getting & testing other players at various key positions of need from other teams' practice squads, to see if we can find/develop a gem or 2 (especially at OL, LB, CB, RB) in what has become a rebuilding year. On the other hand, we're not even playing/developing Marko, so there's no way they'd adopt this strategy.

Posted by: chasgiffen | October 27, 2009 3:03 AM | Report abuse

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