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Clinton Portis: Crackdown on hitting could make game less exciting

Running back Clinton Portis is concerned that the NFL's crackdown on certain types of hitting could take some of the excitement out of the game, he said Tuesday during a radio interview.

In his weekly appearance on 106.7 The Fan's The Mike Wise Show with Holden Kushner, Wise and Kushner asked Portis about his views on the NFL's decision this week to suspend players, even first-time offenders, for "devastating hits" and "head shots."

The league is responding to its ongoing concussion problem, and Portis, who suffered a concussion last season, understands the need to protect defenseless receivers when they go "up to catch a ball and somebody knifes or spear at you," he said. "But as far as dude running the ball, or running with the ball, and somebody hit you helmet to helmet, I think you got an opportunity to go down. You got an opportunity to slide.

"So, you know, if you start suspending for helmet-to-helmet hits, I think you gonna see a lot more broken tackles and less big hits in the game. I think it's going to take the excitement away from the game and hurt. At the same time, with safety issues, they gotta do what they gotta do."

Redskins tight end Chris Cooley suffered a concussion in the second quarter of Sunday's 27-24 loss loss to the Indianapolis Colts at FedEx Field. He continued to play after halftime and remained in the game until the end of the third quarter.

Portis's 2009 season was cut short after he suffered a concussion in Week 9 against the Atlanta Falcons. A month after his head injury, the Redskins assigned him to the season-ending injured-reserve list because of health problems stemming from the concussion. The two-time Pro Bowler continued to experience vision problems for months after the injury, and doctors prescribed corrective lenses to help him.

"This game always been violent," Portis said. "People like to see the mano a mano side of things. Like to see people collide. That's what makes football ... the greatest is the violent side. At the end of the day, somebody gonna be proven to be No. 1. It's everybody colliding, and who gonna be standing there at No. 1 at the end. I think that's the excitement of football and it's always been that way. For it to come in and change now, I know people are bigger, stronger and faster, so the collisions are getting tougher. But at the same time, I think that's what makes the game of football football."

New top back Ryan Torain had the first 100-yard game of his career against Indianapolis, gaining 100 yards on 25 rushes (a 5.0-yard average) and scoring two touchdowns in a display of powerful running. The second-year player ran through defenders throughout the game, often spinning through the grasp of would-be tacklers to extend running plays.

"If you look at Ryan, what you see is the first tackler will never, ever, ever tackle Ryan Torain," Portis said. "And if it's in [the] open field, that cornerback or that safety, when he get on the next defender, he pretty much punish 'em. And that's a good thing. He running hard, and I think he's gonna play the game the way it's supposed to be played. You want to play tough-man football and make opposing defenders feel you."

Torain's 100-yard performance was the team's first since former Washington back Ladell Betts had 114 yards on 26 carries (a 4.4-yard average) in a 27-17 victory over the Denver Broncos in Week 10 of the 2009 season. Redskins backs have rushed for 100 or more yards only three times in the last 27 games.

Portis last rushed for 100 yards in Week 6 of last season. He gained 109 yards - including 78 on one rush - and had a 7.3-yard average during a 14-6 loss to the Kansas City Chiefs at FedEx Field.

After Portis's groin injury was diagnosed, the Redskins announced he would be sidelined four to six weeks. Portis and Torain split time in the two games before Portis was sidelined, and it seems Torain is establishing himself as someone who could be a big part of the Redskins' future.

So if Portis does return this season, it is possible he would play a secondary role to the former practice-squad player. In base salaries and bonuses, the Redskins are paying Portis $7.7 million this season. Torain has a salary of $395,000.

"For the time being, for Ryan to go out and play the way he's playing and carrying this team, it makes me have an opportunity to fully recover even better," Portis said. "There's no rush or no pressure coming form the staff like, 'We need you this week.' While Ryan's carrying the load and doing the things he's capable of doing, he's helping the team until I can get back on that field."

By Jason Reid  | October 19, 2010; 10:37 AM ET
 
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The NFL schedule-makers did their level best to get the Deadskins/Cadavers off to a good start, but alas, their efforts have been thwarted by incompetence and old age.

The Redskins had four of their first six games at home. Sadly, that means six of your final 10 games will be on the road. That's not good for an old team. The creaky joints just can't handle those road trips. LMAO!!

Conversely, my Cowboys have six home games coming up and we'll take care of business at home like we always do. Play time is over!!

As for the Colts game, y'all knew your luck was going to run out eventually. Right? That's six straight games the Cadavers have been outplayed.

Hell
To
The
Deadskins!!

Posted by: MrIrvin88

he-he-he. don't confuse 'em with facts.

Posted by: 10peterbilt | October 19, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse


the man who falls down with nobody touching him (clinton portis) is concerned about the league becoming too soft. the irony is just too rich. redtards obviously lack introspection.

Posted by: 10peterbilt | October 19, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Refs definitely have an out for Landry, but fortunately, he has kept his mouth quiet so far. I do agree, however, that he's a likely ejectee this week. James Harrison the one who the league is going to tell the refs to watch closely ... based on his remarks after taking out Massaquoi and Cribbs, he might even be suspended today.

Back on Landry, did you guys already talk about how he broke up the pass to Dallas Clark in the first play of the Colts' last possession (the one that ended with 3 and out)? The commentators remarked how it was great coverage to get his hand around Clark to knock away the ball, but nobody seemed to notice that, as they were both in the air going for the ball, Landry was behind Clark with his arm around Clark's waist, and as Clark was going down, Landry was essentially doing a pile driver of Clark's head into the ground. Clark had to leave the field after that play.

Posted by: dcsween | October 19, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

10peterbilt,
You should get a 15 yard penalty for excessive stupidity. That excessive penalty should sound familiar with you and the cowgirl nation.

Posted by: huffyskinsohio | October 19, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

hessone

"...as if everyone is born with the ability to choose the sport they'll excell at..."

I hate to go all racial and cultural on folks, but what kills me is that black boys don't play baseball thinking it's a white boy sport.

When I was a track/cross country coach, I'd point out to elite runners the folly of loving football so much.

It was as if they felt expected to be football players when so many of them could excel at some other sporting activity.

I couldn't argue against the unique cultural/racial dynamic where kids of different races don't play a sport based on the stereotype of who should play what.

Too, the hypocritical highlight reel culture of mass media is one where announcers complain about the violence in sports while showing the highlight of a violent hit from several angles.

We celebrate the violent warrior athlete while condemning his violence and aggression.


Posted by: MistaMoe | October 19, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Cowboy fans be crazy. Denial is a serious problem. Apparently the same psychological condition the Cowboys players suffer from drips on down to the fans.

"Let's celebrate another touchdown!"

Posted by: rconner9 | October 19, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Back on Landry, did you guys already talk about how he broke up the pass to Dallas Clark in the first play of the Colts' last possession (the one that ended with 3 and out)? The commentators remarked how it was great coverage to get his hand around Clark to knock away the ball, but nobody seemed to notice that, as they were both in the air going for the ball, Landry was behind Clark with his arm around Clark's waist, and as Clark was going down, Landry was essentially doing a pile driver of Clark's head into the ground. Clark had to leave the field after that play.

Posted by: dcsween | October 19, 2010 11:47 AM

I noticed that. I didn't think it was dirty. I was more impressed that Landry was able to do that while diving to bat down the ball. He's one strong SOB.

Posted by: skinswest | October 19, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

We celebrate the violent warrior athlete while condemning his violence and aggression.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 19, 2010 11:48 AM

On the one hand, I love me some lust for mayhem. On the other hand, I figure that the owners need to pony up for long-term disability insurance, if not health care, for what my appetite has done to players' bodies. I would appreciate if at least 25 cents from every one of my $8.00 FedEx hotdog went to a NFL veteran health care fund ... also, I do like the new big screens this year.

Posted by: dcsween | October 19, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

New top back Ryan Torain had the first 100-yard game of his career against Indianapolis, gaining 100 yards on 25 rushes (a 5.0-yard average)


Actually -- 100 yards divided by 25 attempts equals 4.0 yards per carry.

Posted by: Vic1 | October 19, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

I think the players aren't paying attention.

Posted by: Samson151 | October 19, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

ZZZZzzzzzz...what, hey, I was paying, YAWN, attention. Damn I'm drowsy!

ZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz

Signed,
Fred Davis

Posted by: monk811 | October 19, 2010 11:58 AM | Report abuse

the man who falls down with nobody touching him (clinton portis) is concerned about the league becoming too soft. the irony is just too rich. redtards obviously lack introspection.

Posted by: 10peterbilt | October 19, 2010 11:45 AM

...and you obviously lack the knowledge of the meaning of the word "introspection." Do yourself and all your other Brokeback fans a favor and stick to one syllable words. You're showing your true ignorance and stupidity. Now back to your 1 win team.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 19, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

What would you guess the IQ is of an individual who, shortly after receiving such a penalty, mocks the referees by shaking a teammates hand in the end zone after a score?

I'm working on my prediction for this weeks game, you may be surprised monk.

Posted by: PlayAction | October 19, 2010 11:27 AM | Report abuse

I would say their IQ is somewhere between an ashtray and a pickle jar!!!

Can't wait for this SURPRISE prediction, you know, only NERDS keep predicting the same thing! hehehe

Posted by: monk811 | October 19, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Someone get Reid a calculator or an abacus STAT!

And while you're at it he could use a named source and a treadmill.

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | October 19, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Conversely, my Cowboys have six home games coming up and we'll take care of business at home like we always do. Play time is over!!

Posted by: MrIrvin88

he-he-he. don't confuse 'em with facts.

Posted by: 10peterbilt | October 19, 2010 11:41 AM


Coming from the fans of a team already 0-2 at home and have long history of crapping the bed in December.

Cocaine is a helluva drug...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PR_rzF8ofw

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 19, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: monk811 | October 19, 2010 11:58 AM

very funny

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 19, 2010 12:07 PM | Report abuse


Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | October 19, 2010 11:33 AM |

Care to guess what significantly contributed to Ali's parkinson's or Gehrig's ALS?

Brain damage..caused by..wait for it..suffering multiple head injuries throughout their careers
-------------------------------------------

oh that's right, lou was hit in the head by baseball bats

Dementia pugilistica is what you might be talking about and has symptoms such as parkinsonism, which is not parkinson's disease.

Posted by: hessone | October 19, 2010 12:07 PM | Report abuse

oh that's right, lou was hit in the head by baseball bats

Dementia pugilistica is what you might be talking about and has symptoms such as parkinsonism, which is not parkinson's disease.

Posted by: hessone | October 19, 2010 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Gehrig played Fullback at Columbia.

I really can't believe you are arguing with me about the long term affects of concussions.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | October 19, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

New top back Ryan Torain had the first 100-yard game of his career against Indianapolis, gaining 100 yards on 25 rushes (a 5.0-yard average)


Actually -- 100 yards divided by 25 attempts equals 4.0 yards per carry.

Posted by: Vic1 | October 19, 2010 11:55 AM

Either way, 100 yards + 2 TDs = 22 fantasy points. Won me my 2nd game in a row, ypc be damned...

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 19, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

oh that's right, lou was hit in the head by baseballs

fixed it for ya....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 19, 2010 12:10 PM | Report abuse


...and you obviously lack the knowledge of the meaning of the word "introspection." Do yourself and all your other Brokeback fans a favor and stick to one syllable words. You're showing your true ignorance and stupidity. Now back to your 1 win team.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 19, 2010 11:59 AM |

hey scamp, what happened to ITA ? c'mon dude, quit talking out of both sides of your mouth, that's all

Posted by: hessone | October 19, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

I admire the Sisyphus-like persistence of cowboy "fans" up here.

Posted by: 4-12 | October 19, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Actually -- 100 yards divided by 25 attempts equals 4.0 yards per carry.

Posted by: Vic1 | October 19, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, 'Jason Reid Math' is a little different than everyone elses.
You know; 2+2=donuts

A quadratic equation to him is the estimation of how many times he can hit the buffet line without puking!

Use a calculator and lose some weight you fat f*ck!

Posted by: monk811 | October 19, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse


I really can't believe you are arguing with me about the long term affects of concussions.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | October 19, 2010 12:09 PM |

I'm not, I'm talking Parkinson's Disease

Posted by: hessone | October 19, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Knee-jerk reaction? Shaun, do you work for the Government? "We need to set up a committee to study the problem and propose a solution!"

The rules have been on the books for a couple of years now. What's going to change is that they're going to enforce them more vigorously.

And, if you want to understand the thinking of people who would prosecute sports assault as a crime, click on the article I posted above. It specifically mentions prosecuting "only the most egregious acts" of sports violence, such as the one you described.

Posted by: beep-beep | October 19, 2010 11:24 AM | Report abuse

--------

Posted by: shaunsherman12 | October 19, 2010 12:14 PM | Report abuse

Someone get Reid a calculator or an abacus STAT!

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | October 19, 2010 12:04 PM

Hessone has the abacus...I could do that math in my head...

Posted by: PlayAction | October 19, 2010 12:14 PM | Report abuse

Actually -- 100 yards divided by 25 attempts equals 4.0 yards per carry.

Posted by: Vic1 | October 19, 2010 11:55 AM |
Vic,

You are correct but JReid was wrong not on the average but on the amount of carries it was 20 hence the 5.0 average.

Posted by: Flounder21 | October 19, 2010 12:15 PM | Report abuse

oh that's right, lou was hit in the head by baseballs

Which act is really criminal assault?

a. hitting a defenseless receiver who catches the ball just four yards in fron to you

b. hitting a baseball player at the plate with a 95 mph fastball in retaliation for a player on your team getting hit


Discuss.

And remember: in one of these examples, a player has ample time to think about his actions.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 19, 2010 12:15 PM | Report abuse


Gehrig played Fullback at Columbia.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | October 19, 2010 12:09 PM |

oh, I forgot we're talking football and lou gehrig, why everyone knows lou played football at columbia. WTF?

Posted by: hessone | October 19, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

redtards insider gatekeeper scampbell lacks introspection.

he warns others about cowboy bloggers on the new thread, then two seconds after he hits the 'submit' button to send the warning, he argues with same. he-he-he. the irony is, again, too rich. now get back to policing the blog, you bonafide, know-nothing hypocrite. how's that for polysyllabic banter?

tsk, tsk.

-kthxbye

Posted by: 10peterbilt | October 19, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse

I'm not, I'm talking Parkinson's Disease

Posted by: hessone | October 19, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

a significant contributing factor to him developing this was traumatic brain injuries(concussions)

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | October 19, 2010 12:18 PM | Report abuse

1"peterboy, crackhead88, PapaTampon, Go Kill yourself already MF's. How's 1-15 feel?... get use to it.

How bout dem cowchits!!!

Posted by: bhoang888 | October 19, 2010 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Can't wait for this SURPRISE prediction, you know, only NERDS keep predicting the same thing!

Posted by: monk811 | October 19, 2010 12:04 PM

Do you think its easy picking the same score every week? haha

Did you figure out if you have the game this week?

Posted by: PlayAction | October 19, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Abacus = The NERD'S Sword!

Posted by: monk811 | October 19, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Knee-jerk reaction? Shaun, do you work for the Government? "We need to set up a committee to study the problem and propose a solution!"

The rules have been on the books for a couple of years now. What's going to change is that they're going to enforce them more vigorously.

And, if you want to understand the thinking of people who would prosecute sports assault as a crime, click on the article I posted above. It specifically mentions prosecuting "only the most egregious acts" of sports violence, such as the one you described.

Posted by: beep-beep | October 19, 2010 11:24 AM | Report abuse

----

Nope, don't work for the government, and I think red tape sucks. Still, panic-attack moves like this are awful shallow.

The league has one week where there are a disproportionate amount of helmet to helmet hits, and NOW the rule needs to be changed? Make no mistake beeps, it is a change when Jeremy Jarmon's helmet to helmet against Green Bay, which coulda/shoulda been called by the rules, would be a suspension...or would it?

It's a major move to take players out of games based on a subjective call by watching tape after a game. Again, while I have no problem with suspensions for A-holes like Harrison, who apparently feel the need to lower their head deliberately to spear a defenseless player and brag about it, I am concerned that there will be an over-reaction that will result in accident helmet to helmet contact resulting in someone losing a player for the following week.

I'm never a fan of rule changes on the fly. If you want to change enforcement of the rule to include suspensions, and those suspensions are based subjective calls, I think you need to take more time than one week to make that decision.

Regarding assault, if your opinion is that it should only be used as stated in the quote, I'm with you (Haynesworth stomping, McMahon), though it should be the call of the player.

Posted by: shaunsherman12 | October 19, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse


I'm not, I'm talking Parkinson's Disease

Posted by: hessone | October 19, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

a significant contributing factor to him developing this was traumatic brain injuries(concussions)

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | October 19, 2010 12:18 PM |

one more time, concussions and parkinson's disease are two different things. from concussions you can aquire parkinsonism, which are the same type symptoms as parkinson's disease, but it is not parkinson's disease. the diagnosis you are referring to is called Dementia pugilistica.

Posted by: hessone | October 19, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

First off, Mayo - you're a Dik. I should know. Take a shot at a guy when he's down, real classy.

Second, it's ironic (and I believe he knows this; he spelled it out in his statement), but football needs the hits, but not the injuries.

I remember Formula 1 used to have these fans on the back of their cars to suck the vehicle close to the ground; more downforce than you could ever get from an inverted wing. Course records were being shattered. They outlawed the devices. Now they focus on a car that it takes an experienced driver to struggle with to keep it on the track.

When are we putting tutus on the players?

Posted by: DikShuttle | October 19, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse


beep peeps

Posted by: hessone | October 19, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Do you think its easy picking the same score every week? haha

Did you figure out if you have the game this week?

Posted by: PlayAction | October 19, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, I bet it's hard, probably just as hard as JReid having to look up a simple stat to put in this article and STILL f-ing it up!

I will be watching the Redskins play on Sunday at 1:00 p.m., your attempts to depress me were futile!!!

Posted by: monk811 | October 19, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Conversely, my Cowboys have six home games coming up and we'll take care of business at home like we always do. Play time is over!!
Posted by:

MrIrvin88

Explain to me sir what the business is that you take care of "like we always do"?

I can help you:

- Is it the business of choking?
- Is it the business of coaching incompetence?
- Is it the business of stupidity as evidenced by the multiple bone-headed celebration penalties?

What is it exactly that a 1-4 team needs to celebrate anyway? Are the Cowhomos celebrating the fact that they will be on vacation at the end of the regular season? Well, that's nothing new. Maybe they're still celebrating their LONE PLAYOFFF WIN IN THIS CENTURY. Maybe they're just celebrating the fact that they were able to score in spite of their choking-dog of a QB. I know I would.

And for 10PetersInMouth, what do you dare hang your hat on as a Cowhomo fan? Maybe you are proud of how gracious the Cowhomos are by clearing the way for a better NFC team to play in their house on Super Bowl Sunday while they fetch beers and nachos for their guests.

Thanks biotch.


Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | October 19, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

The Dallas Cowboys, and their innovative owner, Jerry Jones, are ALMOST breaking new ground in the NFL. What breathtaking style! What amazing feats of buffoonery! Not to confuse Brokeback fans with actual numbers, but somehow, they have a top 5 offense and a top 5 defense, and managed to combine the two to create a team which is LESS than the sum of its parts. Which, for those statistically minded, has ONE win and FOUR losses, or in digits, 1-4. Biatches!

I say "ALMOST", because Norv, former Cowboys assistant and Jimmy Johnson butt-boy, is the real leader in this field. San Diego has the top offense, the top defense, and a sensational 2-4 record.

Next week, the Cowdungs look to overtake the "Chargers" by going 1-5 and proving to all that the are the true innovators in the NFL.

Posted by: dpc2003 | October 19, 2010 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Every time Portis opens his mouth we get to see just how stupid he is. Making the simple tackle without jumping up and pounding your chest would make the game exciting enough for me. The art of tackling is being lost because everyone wants to be on ESPN with the kill shot.

Posted by: lesterbill | October 19, 2010 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Silly players. Don't they know the only real way to be on ESPN is to show your junk to someone or play in the NBA?

Posted by: rconner9 | October 19, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Back on Landry, did you guys already talk about how he broke up the pass to Dallas Clark in the first play of the Colts' last possession (the one that ended with 3 and out)? The commentators remarked how it was great coverage to get his hand around Clark to knock away the ball, but nobody seemed to notice that, as they were both in the air going for the ball, Landry was behind Clark with his arm around Clark's waist, and as Clark was going down, Landry was essentially doing a pile driver of Clark's head into the ground. Clark had to leave the field after that play.

Posted by: dcsween | October 19, 2010 11:47 AM

I noticed that. I didn't think it was dirty. I was more impressed that Landry was able to do that while diving to bat down the ball. He's one strong SOB.

Posted by: skinswest | October 19, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

I saw this too, just impressed with how it was done. Its not dirty unless a flag was thrown. This is Football.

Posted by: 15600_sknfan | October 19, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Dear Clinton

I'm a fan. But YOU of all people, after having suffered concussions in each of the last two seasons should leave this subject alone. You are not thinking clearly, brutha. If football is allowed to become much more violent, we might end up with a team sport similiar to those the Romans had. We're already playing in Colisseums. More danger is precisely what the owners want. That is not a good idea for players who want to be able to think or walk or use their arms well AFTER football careers. Just my POV, of course.

Posted by: dcjazzman | October 19, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

The head shots should be outlawed. They are dangerous for both the initiator AND the receiver. How can we outlaw facemask tackles but allow intentional helmet-to-helmet contact to be legal? That doesn't make ANY safety sense. BTW: I'm generally OK with a "horsecollar" tackle (grabbing his pads) as long as the defender just brings the ballcarrier down and doesn't spin and sling him. It's not as dangerous as either of the above, in my view.

Posted by: dcjazzman | October 19, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Speakin' of ... crackdowns ...

Confucius say, "Woman who fly naked upside down have big crack up."

And don't forget it!

Posted by: kinkysr | October 19, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

If you really want to stop helmet-2-helmet collisions, go back to the days of the small face mask or no face mask. Today's players use the helmet like a weapon without the fear of busting up their nose or face. With a single or small double face bar, it was more important to shoulder tackle; with no face mask it was virtually impossible to use your head and escape injury. Baring that, double 15 yard penalties and immediate disqualification are the only way to effectively stop dangerous tackles. Once the coaches see the severity of the penalty, they will self police tackling or lose games and eventually their jobs.

Posted by: rdstr93 | October 19, 2010 5:07 PM | Report abuse

does anyone else think portis is functionally illiterate? he makes santana moss sound like hemmingway. since they stink and will pick in the top ten picks in the draft they should focus on ESL for the team. they cannot even conduct an interview without a member of the 3/6 mafia around to translate.

Posted by: doyouktt | October 19, 2010 8:17 PM | Report abuse

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