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Count Zorn Out of that Rainier Expedition

Jim Zorn, an avid outdoorsman, said he will not be joining NFL commissioner Roger Goodell and Seahawks coach Jim Mora on their hike up Washington state's Mt. Rainier next month. The climb is something Mora has been wanting to do for some time, even before he replaced Mike Holmgren as Seattle's coach after last season. Since Zorn worked with Mora in Seattle, still keeps a home on nearby Mercer Island and he has climbed Rainier, it seemed logical he would want to join Mora and Goodell.

"I've already done that," Zorn joked.

He said Mora and Goodell are scheduled to climb the 14,411-foot mountain on July 5, the same day Zorn arrives in Seattle for a vacation. He said he might drive over to greet them when upon their descent.

As for his own summer plans, Zorn would only say "I have some expeditions but not on any steep rock."

By Les Carpenter  |  June 11, 2009; 3:56 PM ET
 
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First?

Posted by: The_Spear | June 11, 2009 4:08 PM | Report abuse

wow... unleash the dogs of blogging!

Posted by: daggar | June 11, 2009 4:09 PM | Report abuse

woof

Posted by: dcsween | June 11, 2009 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Mb he can just stay in DC and climb LL's ego?

Posted by: hogmeister | June 11, 2009 4:21 PM | Report abuse

haha

Posted by: moosepod | June 11, 2009 4:23 PM | Report abuse

wow... unleash the dogs of blogging!

Posted by: daggar | June 11, 2009 4:09 PM | Report abuse

woof

Posted by: dcsween | June 11, 2009 4:20 PM


You spoke out of turn or you're dyslexic. When we want your thoughts we summon the gods of blogging.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 11, 2009 4:33 PM | Report abuse

He is just an overpaid classless thug

Matt, wasn't defending what he did, however you're making a big deal out of nothing. What did he do that was classless, or make him a thug?? You're way off base on this one.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | June 11, 2009 4:37 PM | Report abuse

From the last thread:

Let's face it, LaRon is Sean Taylor early in his career. Sean pulled this same crap on Joe Gibbs of all people! LaRon seems to be extremely introverted and could probably care less what Zorn said to him in those 15-20 minutes. He is just an overpaid classless thug who has not proven a thing in the NFL to expect special treatment. Why can't our scouting department identify immature players BEFORE they draft them?

Posted by: NCMatt1 | June 11, 2009 4:12 PM

I'd like to nominate this post for the 3L's award - all this week a blogger hasn't personified loser, lame, and lacky in the same post.

Thug, huh? Is that the white folk new 'N' word? I hear that word getting used more and more these days when describing BLACK athletes.

And there you go, canonizing Joe Gibbs again, whatever the f ever on that...

Still from the last post:

Lower lip piercing? Was LL coming out of the closet when he was away?

Posted by: Rypien11 | June 11, 2009 4:02 PM

Yeah, nicely done there Ryp. Superb way of showing that you're culturally "in the closet" on sexuality.
It's known that hetrosexual men sport piercings -- everywhere. I myself have the left and right ear lobes pierced -- some dudes (older heads) will think that's a sign of homosexuality. I call it swagger, minus the old dude old spice scent.
I'd say that given the way Landry dresses and his sort of "wild child" style and ways, he may definitely have a little Dennis Rodman in him, and if he can equate on the football field what Rodman did on the basketball court, I'm good with Landry = Dennis Rodman.


And from this post:

Mb he can just stay in DC and climb LL's ego?

Posted by: hogmeister | June 11, 2009 4:21 PM

When did Landry display a burly ego?

I swear some of you just love to bash the players. Must give you some level of satisfaction in your pathetic lives.

I hate judgemental pr*cks.

Posted by: John_Cork_Madden | June 11, 2009 4:37 PM | Report abuse

I say this as a white woman. Can we please stop calling any random black athlete that does something wrong or something we don't like a "thug"? Seriously.

Posted by: suzannepdc | June 11, 2009 4:40 PM | Report abuse

whew, okay...

RE: the actual thread, why in hell would Zorn want to chill with Mora Jr.?

Zorn must consider Mora as the premier c#*k blocker.

Posted by: John_Cork_Madden | June 11, 2009 4:43 PM | Report abuse

I say this as a white woman. Can we please stop calling any random black athlete that does something wrong or something we don't like a "thug"? Seriously.

Posted by: suzannepdc

Mad props and BIG SHOUT OUTS to this woman.

Thank you.

Posted by: John_Cork_Madden | June 11, 2009 4:44 PM | Report abuse

shouts to bean also...

Posted by: John_Cork_Madden | June 11, 2009 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Can we please stop calling any random black athlete that does something wrong or something we don't like a "thug"? Seriously.

Posted by: suzannepdc | June 11, 2009 4:40 PM
I agree! Classles; true enough. but he has done nothing to deserve the thug label.

Posted by: kaasmaster | June 11, 2009 4:47 PM | Report abuse

There is nothing that LL did that could be considered "thug" behavior. There is nothing that he did to be considered homosexual. There is nothing he did to flaunt his ego.

At least to my knowledge. I think that he was inconsiderate and unprofessional, but I think that is the limit to how far one could go based on anything that was stated here in RI at this point.

Posted by: moosepod | June 11, 2009 4:48 PM | Report abuse

thanks red, I don't get the vitriol against LL....really don't....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | June 11, 2009 4:48 PM | Report abuse

BTW, zcezcest1 when did you graduate from CU?

Posted by: moosepod |

1980. was there in 1977, the last time the Big Red a national title ... in any sport. Damn.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | June 11, 2009 4:49 PM | Report abuse

I say this as a white woman. Can we please stop calling any random black athlete that does something wrong or something we don't like a "thug"? Seriously.

Posted by: suzannepdc

Now say it again, this time as a Latina.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | June 11, 2009 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Been off the blog for most of the offseason - John_Cork_Madden - do you have an "old identity"? Just like to put handles with well, old handles, I guess (since I cannot put faces with names!)

Posted by: suzannepdc | June 11, 2009 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Players on EVERY team in the NFL blow off "non-mandatory" OTAs - and they probably do not call the coaches either.

Geez...people...get a grip!

Posted by: Lisa_R | June 11, 2009 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Right on John cork Madden!

Posted by: chrislarry | June 11, 2009 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Mb he can just stay in DC and climb LL's ego?

Posted by: hogmeister | June 11, 2009 4:21 PM
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When did Landry display a burly ego?

I swear some of you just love to bash the players. Must give you some level of satisfaction in your pathetic lives.

I hate judgemental pr*cks.

Posted by: John_Cork_Madden | June 11, 2009 4:37 PM |
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Hey Cork,

a) it's called humor - you should try it some time
b) by implying I'm a judgmental pr*ck, aren't you BEING one yourself?
c) unless LL was abducted by aliens, complete w/ anal probing, wtf else would keep someone from even bothering to return their boss' repeated phone calls and texts (and please, don't tell me you're ignorant enough to buy that b.s. about not having the right ph #) besides an inflated ego? If you're fortunate enough to be in LL's position, you make sure you can be reached, and you let your coach know that you won't be attending the OTAs. It's called being responsible, accountable and considerate - all the traits that go with having your ego in check.

Now please return to your own pathetic life Cork-in-the-A**

Posted by: hogmeister | June 11, 2009 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Mora Jr is a putz. He told Zorn that he wasn't good enough to be his OC in Seattle -- leading Zorn to look at the OC job here.

That was after Mora had decided he wasn't interested in the HC job here -- after interviewing with Danny -- he explained that he had suddenly remembered he had a family back in Seattle and didn't want to make the move.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | June 11, 2009 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, that would be an awkward outing. I doubt the Jims have a lot to chit-chat about after the way it all went down in Seattle. Maybe to lighten things up Zorn could talk to Roger about that tampering case.

WTF wants to do anything outside of work with their boss anyway?

Posted by: McMetal | June 11, 2009 4:56 PM | Report abuse

bean, people just have hate in their blood for no reason. they're unhappy, unsatisfied, and just overall miserable. instead of manning up and just bringing their feeble world to an end, they want to breathe hate into everything and everyone they're associated with.

Laron is a thug? sh*t, who knew?

I mean, I hate the way he carries himself, but some people lable Terell Owens a thug. To that I say: WTF? How? He doesn't go anywhere or do anything off the field to get that lable attached to him.

All about self d-bag, yes, T.O. is. Way different than a thug.

Posted by: John_Cork_Madden | June 11, 2009 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Been off the blog for most of the offseason - John_Cork_Madden - do you have an "old identity"? Just like to put handles with well, old handles, I guess (since I cannot put faces with names!)

Posted by: suzannepdc | June 11, 2009 4:51 PM

"I said, 'What phone number do I have and what phone number do you really have?' So we kind of synchronized our phones," Zorn said. "And [the phone numbers] were different. ... These players, they change [phone numbers] and several texts came back to me and I was like, you know what I don't really have the right number. So we got synchronized and we're good."

Quoting Zorn

Old Identities, new identities, old phone numbers, new phone numbers....

Seems like we have a theme going.

Posted by: kaasmaster | June 11, 2009 4:58 PM | Report abuse

iT is No Small Task.
Rainier is the Mike Williams of the PNW.

http://www.thebentleys.com/rainier/above%20the%20clouds.jpg

Posted by: _Stumped_ | June 11, 2009 5:00 PM | Report abuse


BTW, zcezcest1 when did you graduate from CU?

Posted by: moosepod |

1980. was there in 1977, the last time the Big Red a national title ... in any sport. Damn.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | June 11, 2009 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Don't feel bad.

Cornell won national titles since then, including some during my stay:

Sprint football 2006, I think
1992, 2005 Men's Polo
79, 84, 86-88, 91, 2000-2004 Women's polo
Crew: HW 81, 82; LW 92, 2006-2008
Women's Crew 89
Men's swimming 2007

As well as 4 NCAA wrestling champions (2 won by same guy)

Posted by: moosepod | June 11, 2009 5:00 PM | Report abuse

And there isn't a Burger King or Wendys for miles....

Posted by: _Stumped_ | June 11, 2009 5:01 PM | Report abuse

b) by implying I'm a judgmental pr*ck, aren't you BEING one yourself?


That was the best, I read his post and thought the same thing. The pot calling the Kettle black.

Dont think Landry is a thug, but he didnt even realize he was being a hypocrite, that was the icing on the cake.

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | June 11, 2009 5:03 PM | Report abuse

men's swimming? jeez, how did that happen?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | June 11, 2009 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Hey Cork,

a) it's called humor - you should try it some time
b) by implying I'm a judgmental pr*ck, aren't you BEING one yourself?
c) unless LL was abducted by aliens, complete w/ anal probing, wtf else would keep someone from even bothering to return their boss' repeated phone calls and texts (and please, don't tell me you're ignorant enough to buy that b.s. about not having the right ph #) besides an inflated ego? If you're fortunate enough to be in LL's position, you make sure you can be reached, and you let your coach know that you won't be attending the OTAs. It's called being responsible, accountable and considerate - all the traits that go with having your ego in check.

Now please return to your own pathetic life Cork-in-the-A**

Posted by: hogmeister | June 11, 2009 4:54 PM

You don't pay attention much, do you a**hole? I'm RedDMV, you know, angry black dude on the blog - get familair...

How are you going to open your post by stating that it was humor then in your report style post -- equipped with the letter style bullets -- in you 'C' give your sorry ass reason for making that assinine claim in the first place?

You excuse is weak, but then again, so are you.

Okay, so you were trying to crack funnies and what not. Whatever. I'm willing to say that if you were nver called out on the sh*t, you wouldn't have mentioned that you were joking at all. Sort of like the kid that when his parents found out he cursed at school he implies that he was "just joking".

You had your skirt lifted (exposed) deal with it.

And no, I wasn't being judgemental. I was stating facts that were derived from your lame ass, so-not-funny post. You on the other hand were being the judgemental piece of sh*t. How so, because you suggested that Laron has a big ego and there hasn't been anything EVER to back this weak ass stuff up.

Oh and f you, just for good measure. You know, alot of you talk big, big sh*t on the blog. I wonder how many of you that do so, are the same ones that go the other way at night when someone like me is about to cross their path. You can make the same argument about me, but I'll tell you something, and I swear to GOD and I put this on everything I love:

How I communicate with most of you here, is how I'll carry it face to face. If I'm cool, I'm cool. If I disagree, the same way that I disagree with you on this damn blog, I'd do the same face to face. Real f'n talk!!!

hog, I'll give you credit. you talk big on the blog, son. But if I were to see you face to face would you be so hard then? Not saying that I want to fight you or anything, but I am curious as to how'd you act face to face, man to man, straight up.

I wonder...

Me personally, I think you're pu**y.

Posted by: John_Cork_Madden | June 11, 2009 5:19 PM | Report abuse

That was the best, I read his post and thought the same thing. The pot calling the Kettle black.

Dont think Landry is a thug, but he didnt even realize he was being a hypocrite, that was the icing on the cake.

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | June 11, 2009 5:03 PM

I'm not going to vindicate this crap above. Read my post at 5:19 and maybe you'll understand the difference.

I think it's a good time to call it a day... blood pressure buliding and stuff.

Posted by: John_Cork_Madden | June 11, 2009 5:27 PM | Report abuse

John_Cork_Madden,

You are a joke. You can't even put together a sentance without cursing. You are real tough to take seriously.

Posted by: NCMatt1 | June 11, 2009 5:31 PM | Report abuse

I say this as a white woman, when the Mayan astronauts detonate the corrective bombs they buried deep within the Earth in the year 2012, the karmic wheel of maya will start completely over again...Until NCMatt gets it right and stops calling black athletes "thugs"!! -tracking, arctan 6386 63289 , red lectroid 867437

Posted by: frak | June 11, 2009 7:13 PM | Report abuse

"You don't pay attention much, do you a**hole? I'm RedDMV, you know, angry black dude on the blog - get familair..."
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Sorry RedStainInYourPanties, I have a life, I don't live on a blog, but good to know who the 'tards here are, so thanks.

You must have me confused with someone that gives a F- who you are, what you think, or how tough you think you are.
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"You excuse is weak, but then again, so are you."
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Dude, what grade are you in? You're a tard. Deal w/ it. Really, it's okay - we need ppl like you to... well, idk, but I'm sure you have some purpose.
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"And no, I wasn't being judgemental. I was stating facts that were derived from your lame ass, so-not-funny post."
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Really - you think calling myself and the other posters "pri*cks" and that our lives are pathetic is factual. Hmmm... You really are a dumbass, aren't you? See Dumba**, that's a judgement, I judge you to be a dumba**. By definition, it can't be factual, though in your case, damn, it's close. Anyway, as I mentioned in my initial reply to your drivel, it's comically ironic to call someone a pr*ck in the same breath that you accuse them of being judgemental, but nm - I'm sure the concept of irony is itself lost on you.
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"you suggested that Laron has a big ego and there hasn't been anything EVER to back this weak ass stuff up."
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Okay, read these words slowly so you get them all, 'Tard. They're from the earlier post - you know, the one that got you all atwitter? Mb you were just too upset to comprehend. Or mb ur just a dumba**. In any case, try once more, "unless LL was abducted by aliens, complete w/ anal probing, wtf else would keep someone from even bothering to return their boss' repeated phone calls and texts (and please, don't tell me you're ignorant enough to buy that b.s. about not having the right ph #) besides an inflated ego? If you're fortunate enough to be in LL's position, you make sure you can be reached, and you let your coach know that you won't be attending the OTAs. It's called being responsible, accountable and considerate - all the traits that go with having your ego in check."

Now go get someone to help you with the big words.

Posted by: hogmeister | June 11, 2009 7:32 PM | Report abuse

(cont)"Oh and f you, just for good measure. You know, alot of you talk big, big sh*t on the blog. I wonder how many of you that do so, are the same ones that go the other way at night when someone like me is about to cross their path."
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These sophomoric rantings are the surest sign of all that you have not a clue. How quickly you resort to personal insults, cursing, and threats (which you began in your very first post to me - am i that intimidating?). You have no idea who any of us are, so I suggest you pipe down, Dumba**. More to the point, a blog is about exchanging ideas, not trying to intimidate other posters because you lack the intelligence to defend your position. Grow up, junior league.
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"hog, I'll give you credit. you talk big on the blog, son. But if I were to see you face to face would you be so hard then? Not saying that I want to fight you or anything, but I am curious as to how'd you act face to face, man to man, straight up."
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Okay, I'm not your son...see, I KNOW who my daddy was.

And what a hypocrite to make barely veiled threats, and then say, "Not saying that I want to fight you or anything." Really? Please to explain, "You know, alot of you talk big, big sh*t on the blog. I wonder how many of you that do so, are the same ones that go the other way at night when someone like me is about to cross their path."

Idk, Sounds like a threat to me - the kind that emanate from fools that find themselves unarmed in a battle of wits.

Posted by: hogmeister | June 11, 2009 7:33 PM | Report abuse

(cont, last one)"but I'll tell you something, and I swear to GOD and I put this on everything I love..."
And hey, thanks for the laughs. So, what, you're backing all your bs up with your porn collection and your tuff-guy self-image? Bite me, Stain.

You've got your panties in a bunch because someone dared stand up to the personal attacks you leveled when you read an opinion you didn't like but lacked the intelligence to dispute it. You're just like the common bullies (or thugs, just for you) that try to get their way with intimidation. Well, ts, Dipsh*t, it ain't workin'.
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"I wonder...

Me personally, I think you're pu**y. "
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Again, you have me confused w/ someone that gives a sh*t what you think. You're a tool. Go pound sand, dumba**.

Apologies to the rest of the blog - just had to pipe that tool down, I'll :-x now

Posted by: hogmeister | June 11, 2009 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Ha! Funny reading the comments here. And people used to complain about JLC's reporting.

Anyway, good thing that Zorn isn't climbing Rainier. It can be dangerous - people die on that mountain. Better to have our head coach safe.

Posted by: cmecyclist | June 11, 2009 8:39 PM | Report abuse

I say this as a white woman. Can we please stop calling any random black athlete that does something wrong or something we don't like a "thug"? Seriously.

Posted by: suzannepdc

Mad props and BIG SHOUT OUTS to this woman.

Thank you.

Posted by: John_Cork_Madden | June 11, 2009 4:44 PM | Report abuse
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Obviously neither of you are hockey fans since that term is used endlessly on blogs to describe white hockey players who play a physical game. Stop turning everything into a race issue!!

Posted by: dckidwell | June 11, 2009 9:07 PM | Report abuse

What we've got here...is...failure...to communicate...

Okay 1st things 1st.

The "thug" label should be reserved for persons who commit acts which fly in the face of civilized behavior including criminal activities. Regardless of race, creed, color, or religious (or other) preference, or who encourage and promote such behavior.

Now, back to brass tacks.

WR-Matt Jones formerly of Jacksonville (who is STILL tragically caucasian BTW...as am I) was labelled a Thug. Proper useage.

Jones deserved the label because he had "wellness issues" twice and had some violence issues as well (probably brought on by the "wellness issues", but who is to say?) and showed no real remorse or desire to change his behavior.

Earlier in his tragically brief career (and life), Mr Sean Taylor rounded up his posse armed with guns and bats to recover up some ATVs of his which had been stolen...instead of oh, calling the police. That choice of behavior would also lend itself to the label "thug". Proper usage (at that time).

Though Mr. Taylor later realized the error of his ways, changed his outlook AND behavior, and gave us a quote that shold be on a slide or power point to open EVERY rookie symposium (which, ironically he skipped and was fined for),

"...you play a kid's game for a king's ransom. And if you don't take it serious enough, eventually one day you're going to say, 'Oh, I could have done this, I could have done that.'".

But LeRon was just being a knucklehead. We all were at that age (yes, I'm old...).

You make sure your boss has a way to reach you. You see in the papers or hear on ESPN or on the street grapevine (and you KNOW he had to) your team wants to know what's up...you drop a call, a text, or an e-mail. Common courtesy.

We've all been young and dumb, and that's all he did.

Judgement: NOT Thuggish. Improper usage.

Get it now folks (on ALL sides of this)?

Posted by: ThinkingMan | June 12, 2009 11:37 AM | Report abuse

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