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D Line Hopes Sacks Are Harbinger

From Jason Reid:

Frustrated about the focus on their lack of sacks, the Washington Redskins had a season-high five in last night's 23-6 loss to the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Washington's defensive line, which has not been as productive as coaches envisioned before the season, accounted for 3½ sacks, with defensive lineman Demetric Evans getting 2½. After getting only 10 sacks in their first seven games, the Redskins have 15 as they begin the bye week, and they hope last night's game was a sign of things to come.

"Everything is always a starting point," right end Andre Carter said. "We always had the potential and the talent. Earlier on, we were just a half a second, a half a step away. Coaches just told us to continue to keep grinding and stay focused, and our opportunities would come."

With Jason Taylor sidelined again after undergoing a second surgical procedure recently on his left calf, Evans started opposite Carter at left end. Evans, who also plays defensive tackle in nickel situations, leads the team with four sacks.

"Demetric had one of his best games ever, I'm sure, from a sack standpoint," Carter said. "And just in terms of getting to the quarterback in general, we all got there, and it was great. For the defense, it was a good note for us to go into the bye week. Now, we've just got to stay hungry and keep it going when we get back."

By Cindy Boren  |  November 4, 2008; 12:17 PM ET
 
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Posted by: mharman1 | November 4, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

3 guys to "blame" for this loss from what i saw:

1. rogers. yes, rogers you CAN lose a game in the 2nd quarter or first quarter. that pick was reminiscent of the seattle game.

2. zorn. agree with jasno on this one. your best WR is hobbled why not create ways to run the ball. you got cartwright, portis and...or just go max protect and keep the game close.

3. blache. the dude was calling the game for ben when that overhyped, undisciplined, overconfident qb, leftwich was in the game. why blitz against the dude? just sit back and let him make the mistakes. after watching that dude for 10(?) years you know he will make a mistake especially when thrown in the fire like that. by blitzing you're basically giving up so much.

both coaches got away from what brought them to 6-2. blache got away from not blitzing. and zorn got away from that joe gibbs/west coast hybrid offense.

very very strange game. couldn't believe what the coaches were doing.

Posted by: dealer1 | November 4, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

So JLaC got the sacks he has been chastising the Skins about.

Looks like it didn't equate to a in.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 4, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

ARE has 36 catches on the year, typical of ANY second WR in the NFL. Look at the list of WRs, you won't find but one or two "number 2"s above him.

So it's not an "all year" thing.

Without Moss, there is nothing to be afraid of deep from the Skins WR corpes, that's as simple as it gets.

Which is why Thomas, in particular, needs to get it together. If Kelly can get healthy, he will help too, but Thomas is the speed guy, the one who could threaten a defense over the top, and that is what's lacking in a game like this was.

Posted by: craig2 | November 4, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

greg, i saw 3 critical 3rd downs where he blitzed and let the dude convert. blache has never done that in the past. just curious why both coaches felt they had to get away from their norm.

on more than a couple of occasions there were 2 free defenders in jc's face...never seen that before...

also bushleague tactic by WAPO to link wise's blurb on the homepage to wilbon's piece of crap. still not going to read it. it's been like that for almost 12 hours.

Posted by: dealer1 | November 4, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

dealer,

I was livid after Rogers dropped that pick. There are 2-3 plays every game that can decide it and that was definately one of them. If he makes that pick, they're up 13-0 when neither offense is doing nothing. Instead, they go down and get a field goal, then block a punt and get a TD before the half.

Huge momentum swing.

Posted by: Original_etrod | November 4, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

dealer -- totally agree on the blitzing point. The sacks came off blitzes against a weak o-line, which doesn't mean the line is doing better. But it does compromise coverage.

I agree on Rogers, that pick would have changed the game. Do the Skins win? Don't know. But it would have been much closer and we would have had a chance to win

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 4, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

deal, it seemed to me that on 1st and second down, he was sending the house, but then scaling it back on third, and thats what I couldn't make sense of??

Posted by: BeantownGreg | November 4, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Dealer,

As usual we are in agreement. I couldn't understand why he continued to blitz leftwich. My feeling was play the run and wait for him to mess it up.

As for the whole Rogers thing well that was ridiculous to me that he thinks a pick 6 while leading wouldn't have had an affect on the game.

Posted by: Gweez | November 4, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

blame for the loss ... hmmmm ... the Steelers are a better team than we are.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 4, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Red no I am not bitter at all. I am just tired of JLC and his childish fight with the FO. And it is not all about positive post. Reid wrote article pointing out where the Skins need to improve and I wrote they were good articles. JLC is the one that is bitter and I just wish he would leave that part of of his posts.

JM220

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Posted by: icetotalpackage | November 4, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Gotta love how everyone expect our corner back to WIN the game, you peeps are crazy. He played a good game his penalty was big but he broke up some key plays.
We lost cause our Pitts D beat out O-line diks in the dirt the did a riverdance on em. If you want to blame someone blame our line or our ST fro giving up a blocked punt or our recievers for not helping out JC in the least, btw thanks for another great contribution Thomas. But obviously Carlos Rogers should have to win games for us.

Posted by: Stu27 | November 4, 2008 12:38 PM | Report abuse

etrod, why doesn't someone get in the guy's face? someone like sellers or hell zorn. he's a huge cover corner talent, no doubt. but the longer everyone goes along with this the longer it'll be a problem. ie tiki barber's fumbling issue. this is a correctable mistake. there is something he is doing wrong and it seems no one knows what it is. surely it's a technique thing...it's just not as simple as "that's why he is a corner and not a WR...". because i have never seen anything like it before. never.

he has good reflexes, i would think. maybe he needs to work on his hand to eye coordination. dunno...

Posted by: dealer1 | November 4, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

We've talked about the WRs at length up here. Last night, they were totally exposed. Thrash and Thomas are just not guys who can be on the field and make plays against a good defense.

We've also got a glimpse of what life without Santana will be like vs the NFC East teams + the Ravens. Not pretty.

The 3rd WR that we didn't get, whether Boldin or Houshmandzadeh, was a big part of our struggles last night. And may be the difference in how far this team goes.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 4, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

JZ: Silent count was called because they always use the silent count in shotgun. Nothing more, Nothing less.

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 4, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

JZ: So many Terrible Towels. I don't know where they're getting the tickets from.......

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 4, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

More from Steinberg on the players' reaction to the all the Stillers fans:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2008/11/redskins_on_the_fan_turnout_di.html#more

Posted by: CindyBoren | November 4, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

The D did not lose this game, the O did... and it sure looked like, as Zeke said above, the Steelers were the better team.

Look at us, finding ways to be unhappy about a 6-3 team... since most of us had let ourselves become convinced that this team could do something this season, and the past four games have shown this team has serious issues executing... thank goodness for the bye week so we can all regroup.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | November 4, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

4th, there you go. Thanks for posting that.

z, I would like to see more plays going to Thomas, before any conclusion is made on that. I'd like to see how he would do playing in place of Moss. Of course, he'd probably just run around like a chicken minus his head, I mean he just runs the wrong routes.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | November 4, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

JZ:I never saw the replay of the call I challegened. They phoned it in upstairs to challenge it.....

(Whaaaw?)

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 4, 2008 12:50 PM | Report abuse

JZ: I want to take a look at the offensive plays called in the games and try to understand why some of the passing plays haven't worked and why so I can try to fix that........

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 4, 2008 12:53 PM | Report abuse

I am still horny for zorny, but the dude is still a rookie coach, and is gonna act like it sometimes......

Posted by: chrislarry | November 4, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

JZ: We didn't win the individual battles....

JZ: I loved our blitz packages.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 4, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

shucks...i wrote a long thing about how everyone knew how important or not this game was since zorn said he was keeping tana out because he didn't want to risk injuring his hammy any further....

so hopefully after the bye we keep on continue to win...

i'm out. don't forget to vote eventhough skins lost ;)

Posted by: dealer1 | November 4, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

How insane is it that Mike Tomlin is 36, I mean I am 36! That dude is a good coach....

Posted by: chrislarry | November 4, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

JZ: The players came to me regarding the uniform change. I want what the players want. What, you guys didn't like it?

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 4, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

"How insane is it that Mike Tomlin is 36, I mean I am 36! That dude is a good coach....

Posted by: chrislarry "

Great post, Captain Obvious! Keep up the great work!

Posted by: TheTruth11 | November 4, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Greg, Devin Thomas was on the field a lot last night.

Its worth keeping in perspective that the Steelers are one of the top 3 defenses in the league. Maybe the best.

The Skins team is among the good teams in this league, if our key guys are healthy.

We've beaten 4 good teams ... dal, philly, AZ and NO plus 2 not so good teams. Tells me we can be a playoff team.

We've lost to 2 of the elite teams, in Pitt and jints. No shame in that, but it does suggest we are not an elite team.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 4, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

good one Truth.....so witty....Go choke on a your dawgs pre-season #1 ranking.

Posted by: chrislarry | November 4, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Some positive from the game. We didnt get any major injuries to our starters. For a team that was battered and beaten heading in to this game for some reason even with a loss we looked healtier at the end then their sidelines did.
Horton continued to progress into a dominate force, had a sack and at least one tackle for loss.
I really like our blitz schemes, using stunts and bringing down linemen through diffrent gaps. Calling blitzes like that will help in games like NY.
Other then that didnt see to much to be cheery about.

Posted by: Stu27 | November 4, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

From Steinberg:

Casey Rabach said he asked for the silent count in the second quarter, and that he and Jason Campbell used it about a half-dozen times. Why? "I couldn't [bleepin'] hear him," Rabach said.

Posted by: CindyBoren | November 4, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Like to see thomas in, I think they need to evaluate Kelly this weekend and if he is no good IR him and get at a new WR so we have someone that can be the no 4 wr.

Posted by: alex35332 | November 4, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Hey CL what's the latest on the Baby front? Did I miss the big announce?

Posted by: Gweez | November 4, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

No big deal Zorn didn't see the replay of the challenged call. Guys up in the booth let the sideline know if it is worth a second look all the time. Was a reach probably but that was where we were at by that point.

Even if the Steelers have a big following, that sh*t would never happen at Giants stadium or in Philly. Part of the problem of having a 90k stadium capacity with many of the lower level seats owned by brokers and other people who are going to sell to whoever. It's embarrassing to have no home field advantage in a big game on MNF.

Posted by: JasonLaTempleton | November 4, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Gweez, no newz....4 days past and counting.....

Posted by: chrislarry | November 4, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

OK let me just start it up now.

we want dallas, we want dallas!, We Want Dallas!, WE WANT DALLAS!, WE WANT DALLAS!, WE WANT DALLAS!

Posted by: alex35332 | November 4, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

They played Thomas plenty. He had another typically promising looking game for a rookie WR. Many missed routes and sloppy route running, didnt get a penalty. Big time impact.

Posted by: Stu27 | November 4, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

chrislarry sells season tickets to opposing teams for cheap

Posted by: TheTruth11 | November 4, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

I thought it was interesting that Jasno's source indicated that Rogers could have a depth perception problem. Not sure if that is a real issue but it's worth investigating.

Posted by: Original_etrod | November 4, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Come on everyone repeate after me it will make you feel better.

WE WANT DALLAS!

Posted by: alex35332 | November 4, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

wow...lame...like Matt Stafford last saturday...

Posted by: chrislarry | November 4, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

"They played Thomas plenty. He had another typically promising looking game for a rookie WR. Many missed routes and sloppy route running, didnt get a penalty. Big time impact.

Posted by: Stu27 | November 4, 2008 1:21 PM"

this is the same guy that came on here and claimed Malcom Kelly played 10 games his entire college career....

Posted by: TheTruth11 | November 4, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Gotta love UGA vs the spread offense. They play it like no other. Guess you saw something outta thomas this game that i didnt, or you been watching kelly on the stair climber, hows he comin along?...loser

Posted by: Stu27 | November 4, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

"Guess you saw something outta thomas this game that i didnt, or you been watching kelly on the stair climber, hows he comin along?...loser

Posted by: Stu27 | November 4, 2008 1:37 PM "

No I agree Devin Thomas hasn't impressed, I'm just pointing out you're an idiot, that's all.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | November 4, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Think you guys are being a little rough on UGA. Had they scored 39 more points it would have gone into overtime then hey, anything can happen.

Posted by: Gweez | November 4, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

WE WANT... THEM TO REST AND HEAL!

Posted by: Club320 | November 4, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

I agree w\the notions that coaching wise, we got away from what was working well. rest, live, learn, get pissed and take it out on dallas in 2 weeks. This game screamed for runs and such to shorten the game and get the heh out to a week off. O-line was not getting much but patience was key here, like we were in philly. 2nd bad turning point was in 3rd Q, after that long gain to Portis on the screen, why come back w another pass (which ended up high & outside of portis and thus 1rst pick): a couple runs there would have been good and thinking they would have netted a first or 3rd and short. We should have laid back w leftwich...not blitzed and yes, the rogers pick was when things began turning poopy for us.....he needs to work during week off w ball machine for 2--3 hours a day--high, low, etc.....CATCH THE DAMN BALL!!!

Posted by: tabtool | November 4, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

I'm just pointing out you're an idiot, that's all.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | November 4, 2008 1:38 PM |

Time out. Truth, you're up here calling people idiots or morons all the time. And, you're not the only one. But, damn, it gets boring and tedious. To my mind, someone who cannot find a better, more original epithet is, himself, a dunce, a tomfool, or a dimwit. Sort of like Pee Wee Herman, "I know you are but what am I?"

So, just to keep the blog fresh and clever, can we all agree to find better epithets than "idiot" or "moron"? Good, I thought so. And, to do my part, here's a few synonyms that you might keep in mind:

blockhead, bonehead, cretin, dimwit, dork, dumbbell, dunce, fool, ignoramus, imbecile, jerk, kook, moron, nincompoop, ninny, nitwit, out to lunch, pinhead, simpleton, stupid, tomfool, twit

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 4, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: alex35332 | November 4, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

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