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Posted at 12:00 PM ET, 02/ 2/2011

Coin Toss: Who pays the bigger price, Snyder or McKenna?

By Washington Post editors

This morning's WP brought word that Redskins owner Daniel Snyder is seeking the dismissal of Washington City Paper reporter Dave McKenna, who wrote an unflattering portrait of Snyder in November.

Early reaction on our web site and blogs seems to be that the Redskins' owner didn't help his image much with his actions, which include preparing a lawsuit against the paper for allegedly defaming him.

What do you think?

By Washington Post editors  | February 2, 2011; 12:00 PM ET
Categories:  Daniel M. Snyder  
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Comments

When are they gonna stop asking us questions and actually write an article on something

Posted by: zjenks | February 2, 2011 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Alan4...Once again playing fast and loose with reality/facts huh?....

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | February 2, 2011 12:06 PM

Hey welcome back! I missed you inane ramblings. I took a direct quote, link included, from Shanahan at face value.

But I appreciate your ability to peer deep into the dark recesses of his mind and divine what he REALLY meant to say! Thanks for enlightening the masses with your unmatched telepathy.

Dumbass.

Posted by: Alan4 | February 2, 2011 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Notice that Pittsburgh and Green Bay don't have to deal with these kinds of players who don't produce on the field but expect to be treated as if they are champions.

Posted by: RoyHobbs4 | February 2, 2011 11:33 AM | Report abuse

In all fairness those teams didn't sign the best 4-3 defensive tackle for 100 million dollars and try to convert him to a 3-4 nose tackle.

Haynesworth is not a 2 gap run stuffer. He never has been and probably never will be. More importantly why would he want to be? It's a low reward injury plauged position. It will likely cut his career short, lower his value, and remove him from the hightlight reel. He can now sit on his butt until he's cut and go join some 4-3 team that will let him do his thing.

They also didn't trade a couple draft picks for a QB that throws every third pass into the dirt.

McNabb isn't that accurate. He never has been and never will be. He's only ever been about 58% accurate. Putting him into an offense that requires a ton of accuracy is stupid. He is much more successful in an offense that let's him throw down the field 9-10 times a game and allows him to throw 30-40 times a game. We will either need to change the scheme to fit Donovan's playing style or move Donovan.

It isn't some strange coincedence that we keep ending up with these "busts". We do it to ourselves then we blame the players instead of the idiots that brought them here. There miles and miles of tape on these guys that our team apparently doesn't watch. We need to move both of those playrs and try to get back as much as we can from these mistakes. Thankfully, AH92 only cost money and not draft picks. Then in the future we need to do our homework before bringing in free agents or trading for 10 year vets.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | February 2, 2011 12:19 PM | Report abuse

I think these kinds of situations will always be portrayed as the big bad rich man trying to put down the man. It doesn't matter whether or not the things written were untrue, Snyder could not come out of this looking good. Whomever advised him to do this was just stupid. With the amount of negative stuff out there about Dan Snyder, why would this one article make a difference?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 2, 2011 12:19 PM | Report abuse

How can you even ask who is paying the bigger price?

WCP is getting terrific publicity. McKenna's article is being seen by thousands of new readers who were not even aware of its existence.

Snyder, on the other hand, is being painted anew as a petty, thin-skinned manipulator and bully. His purported lawsuit has no merit and other than the City Paper's attorneys having to spend a few billable hours crafting a response, I don't see any downside for them. If Snyder goes forward with a lawsuit, he'll be lucky if they don't file a counterclaim for harassment and filing a frivolous claim.

Posted by: jksesq1 | February 2, 2011 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Jack Kent Cooke was a 1st class owner. And she showed it consistently by the way he treated fans, players, and Redskins employees alike. Snyder is the reason why i refuse to brave the traffic and see my Skins play homes games......and I won't do so until he sells the team. I'd rather see my hard-earned money go to another owner by paying to go to an away game than do ANYTHING to put $$ in Snyder's pockets. That MacKenna article touched on many of the reasons why so many fans feel like i do.

Posted by: Carl739 | February 2, 2011 12:21 PM | Report abuse

WaitingGuilty, I challenge you to back up your interpretation of Shanahan's offer to McNabb with a supporting link.

If he offered to allow him to compete for the starting job, most people wouldn't think he's as good as gone. So back it up.

Here are your words:

"He would welcome him on the roster to compete for starting job/be a backup, but not as the guaranteed starter."


Posted by: Alan4 | February 2, 2011 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Two points:
1. Like most people, I wouldn't have known about, cared about or read the City Paper article until Dan Snyder went postal;
2. Snyder has apparently not learned what Damon Runyon noted a long time ago: when fighting with the press, the best you can get is the worst of it.

Posted by: nrjlh | February 2, 2011 12:30 PM | Report abuse

If McKenna's article is all true than Snyder will get nothing but bad PR for suing and calling more attention to it. If he fabricated any part of it then he's toast.

Posted by: skinswest | February 2, 2011 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Ok, let's take this article for what it truly is:
A Redskin fan who was letting out his anger/frustration less than a week after probably the worst beating in team history.

Should Snyder be pissed, maybe. Does the Reporter need to apologize, probably. But let's face it, most of what the guy said was true, it's just the way he presented it. He should have taken another week to THINK about what he wanted to say. That article was nothing but a BIG F*ck You, Stop Ruining My Team to Daniel Snyder, and I don't blame him. I don't think the dude should lose his job for it though.

I guess that since RI is now writing articles about what we all say I'd better watch what I say. I can see the next post:

"Monk811: Snyder is a Midget! What do you think? Flip a Coin."
by Jason Reid

Posted by: monk811 | February 2, 2011 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Two points:
1. Like most people, I wouldn't have known about, cared about or read the City Paper article until Dan Snyder went postal;
2. Snyder has apparently not learned what Damon Runyon noted a long time ago: when fighting with the press, the best you can get is the worst of it.

Posted by: nrjlh | February 2, 2011 12:30 PM |

Kind of akin to the time-honored, "Never pick a fight with anyone who buys ink by the gallon."?

I think there is a level a person can reach where they become too rich to care what people think. The next level from that is to be so rich, you have nothing to think about save for what others think about you.

Snyder lives on that level. I say this with total sincerity....I'd never want to be him.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | February 2, 2011 12:35 PM | Report abuse

I'm in the middle when It comes to Dan Snyder. Like for how he loves the skins' but don't agree everything he's done as an owner=bmore losing than winning. The media around here and former jilted players with their own ego and agenda have put him down for over 10 year, defamed his name to ther point of having their own agendas or just to make headlines at the expense of him rergardless of the truth at times. If I was in his position I would have had enough with most not all of the medias around here there are some good reporters who report the truth and not try to slander in every story). I would have sued this guy too if I believe he was untruthful in his reporting and facts that would damage me motre than I already am especially the past 10 years. Anyone one of us would fight back eventually aftyer a certain breaking point wouldn't you? I would!!!!

Posted by: gmu2000 | February 2, 2011 12:36 PM | Report abuse

I don't think McKenna should get fired. Nothing he said was untrue. His job is to get people to read his articles. Well guess what? Now everyone is going to read that article. Not only shouldn't he be fired, he should be promoted or given a big fatty raise. Dan is a jerk. That's not debateable. This situation only makes me hate him more. I'll buy even less stuff from him now. I'd love for all Skins fans to boycott the team until he loses too much money to keep them.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | February 2, 2011 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Truth is a defense to libel. If litigation starts, WCP gets discovery from Snyder and the team into what is alleged in the article, to confirm that the details are true. THAT could be lots of fun to watch....

Posted by: wahoo2x | February 2, 2011 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Less than half of the comments were on subject and the writer is the dumbass Alan4. Whatever. Look Snyder purchased the team and the demands of the fans and season ticket holders. If your gonna cry because someone mentioned out loud the stupid things you've done over the past 11 years, then take your money and go away. Your the one, among other things, who sued people because they lost their incomes and wanted to sell back their season tickets. You are the owner and CEO, you own every decision. Grow up and live with the sometimes good and almost always bad decision you make.

Posted by: bobby31 | February 2, 2011 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Snyder's a 4ft tall bully. Damn! Where's that Cancer when you need it! To coin a phrase from one of his "butt-boy's" Tom Cruise's films, "HE CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!!"

Posted by: amontgomery1 | February 2, 2011 12:44 PM | Report abuse

A Message to Dan Snyder:


1) It's lonely at the top...no matter what you do, you'll be loved by some and hated by many.

2) We haven't won, that's why people don't like you, and you've countless poor decisions.

3) You need to make yourself more available to the media. Every now and then you need to fire back.

4) Just win...put the people in place to help us win...


Then you can tell everyone to kiss your azz!

Posted by: rickyroge | February 2, 2011 12:45 PM | Report abuse

"Monk811: Snyder is a Midget! What do you think? Flip a Coin."
by Jason Reid

Posted by: monk811 | February 2, 2011 12:32 PM | Report abuse
I fixed the headline for you. It will now read:

"Snyder is a Midget! And I see eye-2-eye with him" by Jason Reid

Posted by: frediefritz | February 2, 2011 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Less than half of the comments were on subject and the writer is the dumbass Alan4. Whatever.

Posted by: bobby31 | February 2, 2011 12:39 PM

He's not a dumbass for going off topic, we all do that. He's a dumbass for dismissing facts and claiming to have insight, without proof, that none of us could possibly have.

Posted by: Alan4 | February 2, 2011 12:48 PM | Report abuse

These new posts are going to take me straight to the poor house...I've lost two quarters down my air vent already this week...enough already!

Posted by: PlayAction | February 2, 2011 12:49 PM | Report abuse

This just once again demonstrates in the largest way possible how small Dan Snyder truly is. And not just in height.

Posted by: edvar | February 2, 2011 12:50 PM | Report abuse

The City Paper is still in business? One point for McKenna.

The Owner of the team really cares? One point for the Southpark guys who wrote the song for Kim Jong Il in "Team America."

May we please have a new zjenks thread?

Posted by: dcsween | February 2, 2011 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Snyder is an idiot. Seriously.

All this does is direct everyone's attention to the article that no one read in the first place.

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 2, 2011 12:53 PM | Report abuse

I don't know whom is handling Snyder's PR, but they are dimwits! Like most Redskins fans, I had never heard of McKenna nor the CityPaper until I read about Snyder suing them. Which of course, made me do a Google to find the article, like most people whom have been reading about this suit. I actually found the article quite entertaining, even if at ties superfluous. I now know more negative things bout Snyder -- all because of his beating the drum about this reporter. I would assume that the CityPaper is like most "underground" city rags found in most metropolitan areas. I would assume that it employs the stereotypical "writer" whom thinks he is just "too cool," wears stocking caps even in the middle of Summer -- because it makes him so much kewler than everybody else -- and employs liberal usage of the F-bomb because .. well .. that's the way that all of the rest of the kewler-than-you's talk and write. Oh, and like all the F-bomb dropping, stocking-cap wearing, kewler-than-you's, he probably voted for 0BowMao. Because he's kewler-than-you's too. All of this .. and most people would have never heard of McKenna, nor the CityPaper! Way to go Snyder P.R. machine!

How about doing things to reverse the negative public opinion (which for most intents has been earned to-recent-date) and just become a likable guy, Dan?!

Posted by: fakedude1 | February 2, 2011 12:54 PM | Report abuse

These new posts are going to take me straight to the poor house...I've lost two quarters down my air vent already this week...enough already!

Posted by: PlayAction | February 2, 2011 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Just don't lose the sock puppets!

Still sticking to 24-20 as the prediction?

Posted by: monk811 | February 2, 2011 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Weak little man.

Posted by: FLvet | February 2, 2011 12:58 PM | Report abuse


The dreamers are out in full force I see. 2 washed up QB's, fat boy at NT, a C that sacks his own QB, dream on fools. The biggest joke is the belief that this FO will turn this roster into a winner. Fools, Allen's track record indicates he is clueless. Draft picks for a washed-up QB and a T that will be finished due to a hip injury. And some dreamers were posting that the deals were a steal. The only steal was the Eagles and the Saints stealing our draft picks. Dream on fools !


Posted by: Flip_Flop | February 2, 2011 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Coin Toss?

I immediately assumed this was a Gilbert Arenas thread.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | February 2, 2011 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Still sticking to 24-20 as the prediction?

Posted by: monk811 | February 2, 2011 12:56 PM

Super Bowl? Heck yeah...was pretty darn close with my Pro Bowl prediction!

Put me down for 24-20 all next season too...unless there's a lockout...then I may need to reassess.

Posted by: PlayAction | February 2, 2011 1:04 PM | Report abuse

What do I think?

I think Dan Snyder can lick my freshly manscaped balls. That's what I think.

Posted by: P00PY_MCP00P | February 2, 2011 1:06 PM | Report abuse

WaitingGuilty, I challenge you to back up your interpretation of Shanahan's offer to McNabb with a supporting link.

Posted by: Alan4 | February 2, 2011 12:28 PM | Report abuse

OK Slowboy...

This should be all the proof I need, as Shanahan clearly, in English, proclaims McNabb could be the starter next year pending evaluations. BTW this article and quote are from 12/26/10...well after your convoluted interpretation of the RI post on 12/22.

Re: who will start in 2011:

"I'm going to evaluate [Grossman and Beck] and come up with the best game plan. It could very well be Donovan. It could very well be him. But I'm just not making that commitment until I see everybody."

Full link here:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/25/AR2010122502040.html


Posted by: WaitingGuilty | February 2, 2011 1:07 PM | Report abuse


Good stuff: Dan Snyder is trying to get a newspaper reporter fired

Don't worry, JR & WaPo editors, it's not you.... it's some cat over at the City Paper.

Snyder could definitely use a better PR advisor.

Posted by: Alan4


Danny Boy is going after a newspaper that is distributed to the public for free. That will teach everyone a lesson. It is a lesson in power over people, fools. Remember, no signs allowed at FedEx ? Danny Boy's ego is matched only by Jerry Jones and his ego. Also of note, this fool David Donovan is still up to his old tricks I see. Nothing has changed with this organization, right down to the fools who believe in this pile of crap. All that is left are fading memories, you fools.


Posted by: Flip_Flop | February 2, 2011 1:09 PM | Report abuse

I think you WP editors are gutless, and that is no coin toss. It takes an alternative paper to tell the truth about this sleazy bum Snyder who ruined the team, rips off the fans, and has no business ethics at all.
The suit is baseless and meant only to intimidate gutless media like YOU.

Posted by: jos587 | February 2, 2011 1:13 PM | Report abuse

brown, peterson at 10 is outright stealing, and someone would pay a kings ransom to come up and get him........

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 2, 2011 11:40 AM

Can't see any scenario where Peterson falls past even #5. The other guy that we could consider is Prince Amukamara (6'1 205) from Nebraska. He reminds me a lot of Nnamdi Asomugha.

Hopefully he won't get taken by the Boys @ #9.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 2, 2011 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Danny boy is a crook that only cares about taking people money. I find it funny that the a media outlet that he doesn't have in his pocket, he decides to sue. It always makes you think twice about who is providing you the information that you read and hear.

I refuse to give his team another cent.

This is not the redskins of the 80's and 90's that much is clear. And anything that is associated with that time frame only has to do with dollars and cents. He has single handedly ruin that reputation.

Posted by: dcinmd1 | February 2, 2011 1:18 PM | Report abuse

I see you want a reporter fired.

Dan Snyder: Of course I do, he made me look like a fool.

I guess you can do that without the aid of the media.

Dan Snyder: Sure can. The hire and dismissal of Marty Schottenheimer and Jim Zorn are bookend examples of my managerial tomfoolery.

So image is important to you?

Dan Snyder: Image and a fueled and ready to go heliocopter on the eve of NFL Free Agency are my priorities.

What's you biggest regret?

Dan Snyder: Possessing Tom Cruise's money, but not his hawk-nosed profile.

Okay, that was awkward.

Dan Snyder: Sure is, but hey, 'uncomfortable' is my middle name, and 'half-empty seats' my most frustrating image late in November.

Well, if you field a competitive team, maybe folks will see you differently.

Dan Snyder: Not true. I'm short, so no matter what happens team-wise, all the fans will see is the top of my head.

Why doncha lighten up? It seemed to work for Michael Jackson.

Dan Snyder: That guy was another failed free agent. Right after we signed him, he came dead on arrival.

I guess he should just beat it.

Dan Snyder: No, that reporter guy should remember I'm rich enough to buy the WaPo and sell it to back to the few people who actually read it.

Any open responses to the clueless lot that frequents this forum?

Dan Snyder (clears his throat): Yes, I want redskins fans to know that the team does not suck.

I do.

And once the media get that straight, I'll lighten up and be a more positive guy.

Until then, any reporter who hates me should just beat it.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | February 2, 2011 1:22 PM | Report abuse

What's Flip_Flop's problem? Flip a Coin!

A. Dan Snyder fired his mom because she didn't dust his bedside table or iron his clothes correctly.

B. He is the b*stard son of Snyder and is cut out of the will.

C. Lashes out at Snyder because he is subconsciously attrached to midget millionaires.


Ok folks, you have to use your special collectors edition 3-sided RI coins, flip now.......

Posted by: monk811 | February 2, 2011 1:25 PM | Report abuse


This is not the redskins of the 80's and 90's that much is clear. And anything that is associated with that time frame only has to do with dollars and cents. He has single handedly ruin that reputation.


Posted by: dcinmd1 | February 2, 2011 1:18 PM |


And all the fools line up to empty their pockets to fill Danny Boys pockets. This has got to be one of the biggest shams of all time. Pay one of the most expensive ticket and concession prices in all of sports, and your guaranteed a losing season. Fools that dream and believe will be in debt at this rate.


Posted by: Flip_Flop | February 2, 2011 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Ok folks, you have to use your special collectors edition 3-sided RI coins, flip now.......

Posted by: monk811 | February 2, 2011 1:25 PM

Mine came up D...wtf? All of the above?

Posted by: PlayAction | February 2, 2011 1:28 PM | Report abuse

WaitingGuilty,

I commend you for finding that quote. I appreciate you backing up your viewpoint with facts, and you'll always get dap from me for that.

When I read that quote, I see McNabb's name thrown into the competition almost as an afterthought. Especially in the context of what happened before it (being demoted to 3rd string) and after it (he hasn't heard anything from the coach for an extended period of time). That's just how it looks to me.

We'll all find out soon enough who's interpreting this situation most accurately. Soon enough.

Posted by: Alan4 | February 2, 2011 1:30 PM | Report abuse

I think Snyder is a medical miracle. I mean given how many times he's shot himself in the foot, its amazing that he can still walk, let alone play racquetball.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 2, 2011 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Ok folks, you have to use your special collectors edition 3-sided RI coins, flip now.......

Posted by: monk811 | February 2, 2011 1:25 PM

Mine came up D...wtf? All of the above?

Posted by: PlayAction | February 2, 2011 1:28 PM | Report abuse

So, by a 24-20 count, we select defense!

Posted by: frediefritz | February 2, 2011 1:35 PM | Report abuse


What's Flip_Flop's problem? Flip a Coin!

Posted by: monk811 | February 2, 2011 1:25 PM |

My problem is the team I root for is in the hands of incompetent losers from top to bottom. Now that I have pointed out my problem with the team, instead of trying to make someone on an internet blog look bad with you immature crap, tell us what your problem is. And I do mean the Redskins and not me, if you are capable of doing so.


Posted by: Flip_Flop | February 2, 2011 1:36 PM | Report abuse

It isn't some strange coincedence that we keep ending up with these "busts". We do it to ourselves then we blame the players instead of the idiots that brought them here.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | February 2, 2011 12:19 PM | Report abuse
______________________

I think the fans and especially the folks who regularly frequent RI have routinely blamed management for the continuing parade of free agent busts.

On The Danny's claim, I think that he's absolutely going to come out worse off than the writer. Even if he wins - which is no guarantee, because The Danny's a public figure, and th writer is obviously part of the media, so The Danny's going to have to show that the writer knew the truth but intentionally and wilfully wrote stuff that wasn't the truth, which is a higher bar - what is he going to get? Some monetary damages, maybe a retraction of some sort, and one writer who's forced out of a job. That's a pretty low reward for once again looking like an SJK to the public.

Posted by: skinsfan713 | February 2, 2011 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Can't see any scenario where Peterson falls past even #5. The other guy that we could consider is Prince Amukamara (6'1 205) from Nebraska. He reminds me a lot of Nnamdi Asomugha.

Hopefully he won't get taken by the Boys @ #9.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 2, 2011 1:14 PM | Report abuse

I don't see peterson falling to us either. We'll be lucky to get Amukumura. The boys could end up taking that right tackle Solder over Amukamura but no way they take him over peterson. I'm still hoping for Marcell Dareus but everyone has Cleveland taking him. There could be a situation where A.J. Green falls to Cleveland and then maybe Dareus falls to us but that's still a big maybe.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | February 2, 2011 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Ok folks, you have to use your special collectors edition 3-sided RI coins, flip now.......

Posted by: monk811 | February 2, 2011 1:25 PM

Mine came up D...wtf? All of the above?

Posted by: PlayAction | February 2, 2011 1:28 PM | Report abuse

No, I think the D stands for something, like DORK, but my bet is D*CKHEAD.

Look, he has a sock puppet, dcinmd1. They're not troll sock puppets like BlueStarOintment and Tampax, but they are worse than pabrainiac cause at least he has something nice to say every once in a while. So how do we classify them? Snyder Hater Puppets? What's the verdict beep, and should I ignore them?

Posted by: monk811 | February 2, 2011 1:37 PM | Report abuse

My problem is the team I root for is in the hands of incompetent losers from top to bottom.

Posted by: Flip_Flop | February 2, 2011 1:36 PM

This team has the same problem and the girl that you root for, doesn't it.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 2, 2011 1:41 PM | Report abuse


No, I think the D stands for something, like DORK, but my bet is D*CKHEAD.

Look, he has a sock puppet, dcinmd1. They're not troll sock puppets like BlueStarOintment and Tampax, but they are worse than pabrainiac cause at least he has something nice to say every once in a while. So how do we classify them? Snyder Hater Puppets? What's the verdict beep, and should I ignore them?

Posted by: monk811 | February 2, 2011 1:37 PM |

Only an immature fool posts non-stop about sock puppets. Grow up and get a life.

Posted by: Flip_Flop | February 2, 2011 1:43 PM | Report abuse

They're not troll sock puppets like BlueStarOintment and Tampax, but they are worse than pabrainiac cause at least he has something nice to say every once in a while. So how do we classify them? Snyder Hater Puppets? What's the verdict beep, and should I ignore them?

Posted by: monk811 | February 2, 2011 1:37 PM

I can't even follow what you just wrote. But you and your other hand, PlayAction, wrote the book on sock puppets, single handedly. You've got the copyright and you can enforce it, suing any other PlayAction/Monk811 wannabe's.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 2, 2011 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Fool is a funny word. I think I'm going to steal it.

Posted by: PlayAction | February 2, 2011 1:49 PM | Report abuse

I couldn't possibly care less about this.......if you don't like the prices he's charging, newsflash...DON'T BUY IT....by paying the prices he's charging aren't you validating his practices?? people come up here all the time pissing and whining about the price of beer at the stadium...it cracks me up....as if they're giving beer away in the 31 other NFL stadiums....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 2, 2011 1:49 PM | Report abuse

zcezcest1

I think Snyder is a medical miracle.


I think he's a guy in transition.

We mock his efforts to build a competitve team, but the Shanahan hire signals that perhaps he's relinquished the vaunted MaddenGMOwner title and decided to let true football people run the team.

The trick is, if Shanahan and Allen fail, will Snyder replace them with a different set of football people or put back on the MaddenGMOwner cap.

We'll see.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | February 2, 2011 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Hey Danny - and I know you're reading RI, you paranoid little man - don't forget what Ben Franklin once said:

"Never argue with a man who buys his ink by the barrel."

Sage advice. Now wise up.

Posted by: Oogalaboogala | February 2, 2011 1:51 PM | Report abuse

So, by a 24-20 count, we select defense!

Posted by: frediefritz | February 2, 2011 1:35 PM | Report abuse

See, his coin works, why doesn't ours?

Posted by: monk811 | February 2, 2011 1:52 PM | Report abuse

beep-beep

This team has the same problem and the girl that you root for, doesn't it.

cool, clean, cutting, and unkind

and really funny....

Posted by: gimmesummoe | February 2, 2011 1:53 PM | Report abuse

I just read McKenna's article and noticed something startling about it.

It's all true.

The Danny needs to look in a mirror and admit his critics have a point accentuated in truth. He may, in fact, simply be a jerk.

It's too bad he grew up with a Redskins belt buckle instead of a Cowboys hat.

Posted by: clandestinetomcat | February 2, 2011 1:56 PM | Report abuse

So, by a 24-20 count, we select defense!

Posted by: frediefritz | February 2, 2011 1:35 PM | Report abuse

See, his coin works, why doesn't ours?

Posted by: monk811 | February 2, 2011 1:52 PM

Ok...I got a new coin...when are these FOOLS going to put up new question.

Posted by: PlayAction | February 2, 2011 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Great article by McKenna.
It has now gone national (check Yahoo!) thanks to Snyder's reaction to it.
This proves that, despite his claims to the contrary, lil Danny is still the same petty fellow.
No surprise there, but what I'm interested in is that the Danny, unlike someone like Al Davis, seems to actually care about his rep. If he sees that his image is beyond repair, would he ever give up the team? He thought that by stepping aside and bringing in Shanny/Allen he'd reboot his stock in DC, but it is (fairly) not happening. He will never be embraced in any way by Skins fans. Even if they win a Super Bowl, we all know it will be despite his interference, and that his actions in business and personally, have been reprehensible. That ain't changing. Will he ever recognize that? Would he pull a Mubarak and get out of Dodge if the people protested enough? Thoughts?

Posted by: minorthread | February 2, 2011 1:59 PM | Report abuse

My problem is the team I root for is in the hands of incompetent losers from top to bottom. Now that I have pointed out my problem with the team, instead of trying to make someone on an internet blog look bad with you immature crap, tell us what your problem is. And I do mean the Redskins and not me, if you are capable of doing so.

Posted by: Flip_Flop | February 2, 2011 1:36 PM | Report abuse

I'm sitting back on a blog having fun with my SOCK PUPPETS and SCHTICK. You choose to pout and bicker over things you have no control over. You think your insane ramblings are going to change anything?

So instead of being Mr. Nega-F*cking-Tivity, why don't you shut up and do something constructive with your time, and take your wanna-be sock puppet with you!

Posted by: monk811 | February 2, 2011 2:01 PM | Report abuse

I just read McKenna's article and noticed something startling about it.

It's all true.

Posted by: clandestinetomcat | February 2, 2011 1:56 PM |

I noticed that, but I also think I noticed that everything in the article is at least a year old and some of it is 10 years old. And a lot of it is just crap -- like trying to pin Six Flags' bankruptcy on Snyder, which is about the same as trying to blame Obama for the high rate of unemployment.

Still, it really makes Snyder look mean and petty.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 2, 2011 2:01 PM | Report abuse


This team has the same problem and the girl that you root for, doesn't it.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 2, 2011 1:41 PM |

Beep-beep, the biggest of all fools on the board. You remind me of big brother. Have fun picking apart everyone's post, fool.


Posted by: Flip_Flop | February 2, 2011 2:03 PM | Report abuse

So instead of being Mr. Nega-F*cking-Tivity, why don't you shut up and do something constructive with your time, and take your wanna-be sock puppet with you!

Posted by: monk811 | February 2, 2011 2:01 PM |

co-sign. Well said, PlayAction.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 2, 2011 2:04 PM | Report abuse

I can't even follow what you just wrote.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 2, 2011 1:47 PM | Report abuse

What were we talking about again? These so called Redskins fans are like pesky flies. Is that what it feels like when you are talking to me and PA? hahaha

Posted by: monk811 | February 2, 2011 2:06 PM | Report abuse

co-sign. Well said, PlayAction.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 2, 2011 2:04 PM

LOL...and thank you!

Posted by: PlayAction | February 2, 2011 2:06 PM | Report abuse

The Post, of course, automatically opposes all slander and libel suits, unless there is a pro-democrat point to be made. In this case, it does not like Snyder to begin with, and figures that if it gets a few hundred comments, it will help when it comes time to raise advertising rates for the pop-under ads, the malware sites, and the peddlers of patent nostrums.

Posted by: Nemo24601 | February 2, 2011 2:10 PM | Report abuse

We'll be lucky to get Amukumura.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | February 2, 2011 1:37 PM

Sam Huff doesn't agree.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 2, 2011 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Have fun picking apart everyone's post, fool.


Posted by: Flip_Flop | February 2, 2011 2:03 PM |

LMAO. I would think this is a joke except you have no sense of humor. I'll try to be more complimentary toward other posters, like you. Wait, I just gave a big compliment to PlayAction. So, go choke on your own hypocrisy.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 2, 2011 2:13 PM | Report abuse

This team has the same problem and the girl that you root for, doesn't it.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 2, 2011 1:41 PM |

Beep-beep, the biggest of all fools on the board. You remind me of big brother. Have fun picking apart everyone's post, fool.

Posted by: Flip_Flop | February 2, 2011 2:03 PM | Report abuse

No, I think it's you, then PA, then me, then beep. That's the order of the fools on here. In fact, that's probably the next post by Reid.

Posted by: monk811 | February 2, 2011 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Right on Greg...I guess the peeps who complain about the prices at FedEx have never gone Os or Nats games...have never taken kids to the Ice Capades or the circus...or any type of event whatsoever...if you don't like it...don't go...oh and guess what...you can eat and drink in the parking lot!

Posted by: PlayAction | February 2, 2011 2:21 PM | Report abuse

" Who pays the bigger price, Snyder or McKenna?"


McKenna...if there's any teeth to this lawsuit, he's finished. As for Snyder, it's pretty hard for him to get people to hate him any worse than they already do so from that angle he's kinda playing with house money.

O_e called it right, though...NOBODY reads that article or even knows who McKenna is if Snyder keeps his piehole shut. Kinda like farting in a room full of people and then saying "excuse me"...best course of action is to shut up and hope nobody notices...

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 2, 2011 2:22 PM | Report abuse

No, I think it's you, then PA, then me, then beep. That's the order of the fools on here. In fact, that's probably the next post by Reid.

Posted by: monk811 | February 2, 2011 2:15 PM

Skipped someone, didn't you? hessone's either #2 or #4. He can't be #3 since #2 and #3 are the same guy with different handles.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 2, 2011 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Dan Snyder should thank his lucky stars that the South Park guys (Trey Parker and Matt Stone) are not Redskins fans.

Posted by: berkeleyhoya | February 2, 2011 2:23 PM | Report abuse

No, I think it's you, then PA, then me, then beep. That's the order of the fools on here. In fact, that's probably the next post by Reid.

Posted by: monk811 | February 2, 2011 2:15 PM

Skipped someone, didn't you? hessone's either #2 or #4. He can't be #3 since #2 and #3 are the same guy with different handles.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 2, 2011 2:23 PM |

I feel insulted.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | February 2, 2011 2:26 PM | Report abuse

pa, exactly, don't want to pay $8 for a beer...then don't...I mean, where is the confusing part......you don't HAVE to, there is no written rule that says you have to buy a beer at fedex. I went to a game in 2008, and no one twisted my arm to buy a beer....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 2, 2011 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Is it me or have damn near all the threads since JReid left been in question form? I mean, isn't RI supposed to GIVE information instead of ASKING for it???

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 2, 2011 2:29 PM | Report abuse

I feel insulted.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | February 2, 2011 2:26 PM

I'd like to be #1...should we have a Fool-Off?

Flip_Flop = hessone (hessone)

Posted by: PlayAction | February 2, 2011 2:29 PM | Report abuse

I went to a game in 2008, and no one twisted my arm to buy a beer....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 2, 2011 2:28 PM

Well, duh. Firm policy at FedEx not to twist the arm of anyone who looks like

1. they're under 17
2. they don't have $8
3. they think $8 is too much for a beer
4. they'd start a fight if their arm were twisted

Posted by: beep-beep | February 2, 2011 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Flip_Flop = hessone (hessone)

Posted by: PlayAction | February 2, 2011 2:29 PM | Report abuse

I don't think so. When he was making fun of The Midget he would have typed $nyder if he were hessone. Do you think it's Poopy_McPoop starting a new schtick?

Posted by: monk811 | February 2, 2011 2:41 PM | Report abuse

well played beep, haha....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 2, 2011 2:42 PM | Report abuse

1. they're under 17
2. they don't have $8
3. they think $8 is too much for a beer
4. they'd start a fight if their arm were twisted

Posted by: beep-beep | February 2, 2011 2:35 PM | Report abuse

5. they look Irish and in turn would already be drunk.

Posted by: monk811 | February 2, 2011 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Hey welcome back! I missed you inane ramblings. I took a direct quote, link included, from Shanahan at face value.

But I appreciate your ability to peer deep into the dark recesses of his mind and divine what he REALLY meant to say!

Posted by: Alan4 | February 2, 2011 12:18 PM

So what you're saying is that WaitingGuilty is a woman?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 2, 2011 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Flip_Flop = hessone (hessone)

Posted by: PlayAction | February 2, 2011 2:29 PM | Report abuse

I don't think so. When he was making fun of The Midget he would have typed $nyder if he were hessone. Do you think it's Poopy_McPoop starting a new schtick?

Posted by: monk811 | February 2, 2011 2:41 PM |

It's another perineum/skinshaveaGM sock puppet. he's already given himself away. D0uche.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 2, 2011 2:47 PM | Report abuse

I don't think so. When he was making fun of The Midget he would have typed $nyder if he were hessone. Do you think it's Poopy_McPoop starting a new schtick?

Posted by: monk811 | February 2, 2011 2:41 PM

Who are we to judge? At one point we thought we were separate people.

Posted by: PlayAction | February 2, 2011 2:48 PM | Report abuse

At one point we thought we were separate people.

Posted by: PlayAction | February 2, 2011 2:48 PM

schizophrenia. Good thing the meds have kicked in.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 2, 2011 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Beep-beep, the biggest of all fools on the board. You remind me of big brother. Have fun picking apart everyone's post, fool.

Posted by: Flip_Flop | February 2, 2011 2:03 PM |

instead of trying to make someone on an internet blog look bad with you immature crap, tell us what your problem is.

Posted by: Flip_Flop | February 2, 2011 1:36 PM | Report abuse

*******************************************

Oh my G, pot, meet the muthaphukin' kettle you hypocritical a hole.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 2, 2011 2:54 PM | Report abuse

good article on the 3-4 employed by Capers and LeBeau, and some history of how it evolved.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/tim_layden/01/31/zone-blitz/index.html?xid=cnnbin&hpt=Sbin

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 2, 2011 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Who are we to judge? At one point we thought we were separate people.

Posted by: PlayAction | February 2, 2011 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, how crazy was that? Good thing those nice guys dressed in white told us the truth. I still like to think that they were angels, angels with straight jackets.......

Posted by: monk811 | February 2, 2011 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, how crazy was that? Good thing those nice guys dressed in white told us the truth. I still like to think that they were angels, angels with straight jackets.......

Posted by: monk811 | February 2, 2011 2:56 PM

Quit being immature fool haha

Waiting patiently for another question...

Posted by: PlayAction | February 2, 2011 2:59 PM | Report abuse

At one point we thought we were separate people.

Posted by: PlayAction | February 2, 2011 2:48 PM

schizophrenia. Good thing the meds have kicked in.

Posted by: beep-beep

On the upside, a schizophrenic does get to use the HOV lanes. Not sure if they still get to use it if the meds are working, though

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 2, 2011 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Re: Snyder v. McKenna

Who pays the bigger price?

If we are talking about "PR", then Snyder just adds to his large pile of dooshbags. But why does he care? It's not like anyone can force him out of ownership.

If we are talking about lives getting crushed, then McKenna loses in a landslide.

Snydes has resources to burn and if he wants to crush WCP and put McKenna on the streets, then he can do so and not skip a beat. McKenna, on the other hand, will join the ranks of the unemployed in a crappy economy where newspaper is already going down the toilet (RIP Washington Times). And if Snydes is also angling to make a play at Steinberg and the Post, then McKenna's employment options are dwindling.

Sure, McKenna maybe the "people's hero", but that's not going to pay Pepco at the end of the month.

Advantage Snydes.


Posted by: p1funk | February 2, 2011 2:59 PM | Report abuse

I pray every day that he sells this team. It's a valuable franchise, and he would stand to make a ton of money on the sale. We want him in control at Ashburn about as much as the Egyptians want Mubarak or the Tunisians wanted Ben Ali.

Please sell the damn team!

Posted by: Carl739 | February 2, 2011 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Please sell the damn team!

Posted by: Carl739 | February 2, 2011 3:02 PM

What...and ruin his 30 year plan to reach the Super Bowl?

Posted by: PlayAction | February 2, 2011 3:07 PM | Report abuse

He thought that by stepping aside and bringing in Shanny/Allen he'd reboot his stock in DC, but it is (fairly) not happening. He will never be embraced in any way by Skins fans. Even if they win a Super Bowl, we all know it will be despite his interference, and that his actions in business and personally, have been reprehensible. That ain't changing. Will he ever recognize that? Would he pull a Mubarak and get out of Dodge if the people protested enough? Thoughts?

Posted by: minorthread | February 2, 2011 1:59 PM | Report abuse

I disagree. If he puts a consistently winning team on the field, I think he will be embraced. Winning is the key.

Posted by: frediefritz | February 2, 2011 3:07 PM | Report abuse

I think at least one of the "Washington Post editors" must be a psychiatrist.

"Why do YOU think you're afraid of commitment?"

"Who do YOU think is most hurt by Snyder's lawsuit?"

That'll be $300, please.

Posted by: freakzilla | February 2, 2011 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Re: Snyder v. McKenna

Who pays the bigger price?

If we are talking about "PR", then Snyder just adds to his large pile of dooshbags. But why does he care? It's not like anyone can force him out of ownership.

If we are talking about lives getting crushed, then McKenna loses in a landslide.

Snydes has resources to burn and if he wants to crush WCP and put McKenna on the streets, then he can do so and not skip a beat. McKenna, on the other hand, will join the ranks of the unemployed in a crappy economy where newspaper is already going down the toilet (RIP Washington Times). And if Snydes is also angling to make a play at Steinberg and the Post, then McKenna's employment options are dwindling.

Sure, McKenna maybe the "people's hero", but that's not going to pay Pepco at the end of the month.

Advantage Snydes.


Posted by: p1funk |

Not really. A bunch of lawyers will want to be part of the countersuit. Danny can't get much $$ from this free paper, but he could lose a lot in a countersuit. My guess is that the paper gets free legal (ie -- contingency) -- and higher ad rates.

Plus, he gets his image dragged thru the muck, yet again. And his image does matter.

Don't think Danny isn't vulnerable. No one knows his finances -- lots of people assume certain things. If the 2011 season doesn't happen, it'll hurt the owners that own stadiums the most.

There's also been a lot of speculation that the season ticket waiting list is history, with a significant amount of anecdotal evidence to back that up.

Plus, its not like he's nurtured the next generation of fans. For a person turning 23, how many good seasons do they remember? Its not even like the Skins of the 1960's. Lovable losers because at least you got to watch Sonny throw the football brilliantly to guys like Charlie Taylor, Jerry Smith and Bobby Mitchell.

Nope, the Snyder Skins have been a bunch of overpaid underachievers -- no one falls in love with that.

And its not like Danny owns this team alone. He does have partners and he does need to justify his actions to the other shareholders.

All in all, Danny has plenty to lose.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 2, 2011 3:14 PM | Report abuse

dizzle44

The other guy that we could consider is Prince Amukamara (6'1 205) from Nebraska. He reminds me a lot of Nnamdi Asomugha.


Why not just spent a lil FA coin and add the real Nnamdi Asomugha and use that #10 pick to add the best player availiable at a position of need:

--nose tackle

--outside linebacker

--defensive end

--right guard

--quarterback

Cornerback is the least of our worries.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | February 2, 2011 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Washington Redskins Draft & FA Strategy 2.0
(Updated on 2/2/2011)

Draft:
We do our best to trade out of #10 (where a team may want to make a grab for Cam Newton or another QB) and pick up a couple of late first rounders or an early second rounder.

Draft
Later 1st rounder #1: Phil Taylor NT
Later 1st rouder #2 (or early 2nd): Justin Houston OLB/DE
2nd round: Ras-I Dowling CB
5th round - on: Best available

Basically, we are using our top picks to get 3-4 personnel that we need in order to not be completely crappy on defense.

We need to draft Phil Taylor, b/c Haloti Ngata is going to remain in Bmore.

Justin Houston played OLB in a 3-4 at Georgia this past year and beasted out.

Ras-I is a first round talent and big physical corner (6'2, 200) who can run w/ receivers and make plays. He's the perfect replacement for Carlos Rogers. His stock has slipped some this year b/c of injuries.

We've got so many holes on this team that "Best Available" really should be the policy in the later rounds.


Free Agency

Ryan Harris - RT drafted and groomed by Shanny in Denver can convert to RG or remain at RT depending on what happens with Brown.

Jamaal Brown - resign, and hope he takes a step forward at tackle. If not, move him inside to RG and move Harris out.

Alex Smith - Can duke it out for the starting job with Rx Grossman and John Beck. Shanny's MO is to take mid-career QBs and teach them the system.

D'Qwell Jackson - My new FA man-crush is the former Terp. He played ILB in a 3-4 in Cleveland and was a total monster (had 154 tackles in 2008). He was beasting out in 2009 (had 58 tackles through 6 games) and injured a pectoral that kept him out in 2010 as well. If he's fully healed he's the perfect guy to solidify the ILB rotation as we phase Perry Riley in and London Fletcher out over the next couple years.

Jacoby Jones - Not a big fan of all the no-shows this season, but he'll come at a moderate price, and he already knows Genius Jr.'s offense, so there should be no lag-time in working him into the offense. He's got game-breaking speed if he could just hold onto the ball.

Posted by: p1funk | February 2, 2011 3:19 PM | Report abuse

I disagree. If he puts a consistently winning team on the field, I think he will be embraced. Winning is the key.

Posted by: frediefritz | February 2, 2011 3:07 PM | Report abuse

O absolutely. The only reason we hate him is because the team is losing. If this team gets rebuilt and starts winning he will win us over in no time.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | February 2, 2011 3:20 PM | Report abuse

That'll be $300, please.

Posted by: freakzilla | February 2, 2011 3:08 PM

What a racket...that's at least a weeks worth of coins to flip.

Posted by: PlayAction | February 2, 2011 3:20 PM | Report abuse

9 years ago, I visited Cairns and spent 3 days diving on the Barrier Reef. Today, that area is facing a massive class 5 hurricane.

5 years ago, I went to Southern Chile, which experienced a massive 8.8 earthquake last year.

The moral here is this: Be nice to me, or I''ll visit you.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 2, 2011 3:22 PM | Report abuse

If you were Mike Shanahan how would you handel the next season ,the QB situation and the draft?

Posted by: suliman215 | February 2, 2011 3:23 PM | Report abuse

If this has nothing to do with on field progress...I really don't care. This is between the owner and the newspaper person. And I'd be damned if I pick a side.

I would hate for me to run down a list of isolated incidents and combined it into one big issue as if all the dots connect. So I understand where Snyder is coming from. Too much hersey to get the alphabet concept going.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 2, 2011 3:23 PM | Report abuse

I disagree. If he puts a consistently winning team on the field, I think he will be embraced. Winning is the key.

Posted by: frediefritz | February 2, 2011 3:07 PM | Report abuse

O absolutely. The only reason we hate him is because the team is losing. If this team gets rebuilt and starts winning he will win us over in no time. If we win the super bowl I'll buy an I love Dan Snyder t-shirt.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | February 2, 2011 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Westjr:

You out there anywhere? How's things down home in Mathews?

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 2, 2011 3:26 PM | Report abuse

The moral here is this: Be nice to me, or I''ll visit you.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 2, 2011 3:22 PM

Beep-beep is giving out free beer at his house.

Posted by: PlayAction | February 2, 2011 3:26 PM | Report abuse

This article was written Nov. 19th. Snyder is pathetic and worse yet he's attempting to sue a paper and have a writer fired for something that is TRUE.

Maybe he'll buy the paper like he did with ESPN980. BTW...received an email about buying a DHall pro bowl jersey. I think I'll pass.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 2, 2011 3:27 PM | Report abuse

So... here are the current NFL owners who took over around the same time as Snyder and therefore have had roughly the same opportunity he's had to succeed.

Who'd you rather have own the Skins? How would you rank 'em?

Bucs - Malcolm Glazer - 1995
Colts - Jim Irsay - 1997
Seahawks - Paul Allen - 1997
Redskins - Dan Snyder - 1999
Jets - Woody Johnson - 2000
49ers - York family - 2000
Browns - Randy Lerner - 2002
Texans - Bob McNair - 2002

The sad truth is that no matter how infuriating it is to root for a team owned by Dan Snyder, he's a "better" owner than a considerable portion of his peers.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 2, 2011 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Snyder has more to lose; but this shouldn't keep him out of the White House

Posted by: vn11701 | February 2, 2011 3:32 PM | Report abuse

So... here are the current NFL owners who took over around the same time as Snyder and therefore have had roughly the same opportunity he's had to succeed.

Who'd you rather have own the Skins? How would you rank 'em?

Bucs - Malcolm Glazer - 1995
Colts - Jim Irsay - 1997
Seahawks - Paul Allen - 1997
Redskins - Dan Snyder - 1999
Jets - Woody Johnson - 2000
49ers - York family - 2000
Browns - Randy Lerner - 2002
Texans - Bob McNair - 2002

The sad truth is that no matter how infuriating it is to root for a team owned by Dan Snyder, he's a "better" owner than a considerable portion of his peers.

Posted by: NateinthePDX

Went to a 49er-Skins game a few years back. Was looking for the "My Owner Sucks Worse Than Your Owner" t-shirts.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 2, 2011 3:33 PM | Report abuse

In regard to this article.....keep the coin and toss SNYDER. There have been few owners as inept as he since ownership left the COOKE family. In fact, he's probably in the top three of "inept."

And last year's move at q-back smacked of his ineptitude also. Signing McNABB to an almost worthless contract while the coach benches him? Come on!!!!!!

O.K. SNYDER-mole, say it ain't so.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 2, 2011 3:34 PM | Report abuse

draft Patrick Peterson, LSU...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 2, 2011 11:26 AM |

It would be a terrible waste if the Skins drafted that dude irrespective of how good he is. DB ain't one of their pressing needs. It would be like if Christ were available at pick 10 and they drafted him. The Skins don't need their souls saved. They need their OL and DL saved.

Posted by: AntarcticCat | February 2, 2011 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 2, 2011 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Not sure what part of my post you are disagreeing with.

I said that Danny would definitely lose the PR battle.

But my point is that if Danny wants to take a "principled" stand on this and crush the guy, then he could do it, and whatever PR flack Snydes gets, it's not as bad as it would be for McKenna out on the streets.

If we're talking about a war of legal attrition, then the deep-pockets factor favors Snyder...heavily.

What kind of legal war chest does WCP have? It's a dinky newspaper in a dying industry?

The hedge fund that owns WCP isn't going to give a rat's behind about McKenna. It wants WCP to be profitable, and those folks are not going to pour resources into a legal battle just to protect a staff writer.

Posted by: p1funk | February 2, 2011 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Dan Snyder gives us all hope.

That a man, could be so short and vain and stupid and still be rich.

Amazing.

He needs a PR firm bad!

Posted by: soc22210 | February 2, 2011 3:38 PM | Report abuse

From the Seattle Seahawks beat reporter on Jake Locker

Q: If you were a GM and had a need at QB, would you take Jake Locker?

A: Not in the first round. And I say that as someone who really enjoyed watching Jake play collegiately at Washington. But he's had five years of coaching -- the past two of them with a well-regarded offensive mind -- and there are still serious questions about his accuracy and his ability to read defenses. Drafting any quarterback is a risk. I just think those facts would lead me to look elsewhere with a first-round pick.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/seahawksblog/2014097516_hawk_talk_live_28.html

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 2, 2011 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Dan Snyder gives us all hope.

That a man, could be so short and vain and stupid and still be rich.

Amazing.

He needs a PR firm bad!

Posted by: soc22210 | February 2, 2011 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: AntarcticCat | February 2, 2011 3:36 PM | Report abuse

I guess you think we're going to win the super bowl next year. Drafting Patrick Peterson pretty much takes care of our CB position for the next decade. If he's there at #10 then he is by far the best player available. We can get d-linemen and o-linemen in later rounds, FA, and next year's draft. This isn't going to be fixed in 1 year. You have to think ahead. BTW, CR22 is almost 30 and we don't have a decent nickel CB.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | February 2, 2011 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Bucs - Malcolm Glazer - 1995
Colts - Jim Irsay - 1997
Seahawks - Paul Allen - 1997
Redskins - Dan Snyder - 1999
Jets - Woody Johnson - 2000
49ers - York family - 2000
Browns - Randy Lerner - 2002
Texans - Bob McNair - 2002

The sad truth is that no matter how infuriating it is to root for a team owned by Dan Snyder, he's a "better" owner than a considerable portion of his peers.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 2, 2011 3:29 PM

Irsay brought the team or inherited the team from his father. The York Family is directly related to the DeBArtolo's. And Bob McNair and Randy Lerner brought expansion franchises. So, I wouldn't count those as they entered via different circumstances.

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 2, 2011 3:43 PM | Report abuse

This morning's WP brought word that Redskins owner Daniel Snyder is seeking the dismissal of Washington City Paper reporter Dave McKenna, who wrote an unflattering portrait of Snyder in November.

All of the really bad shti, like doing a Mr. T number on his trees, had been long known. So Snyder expects to get a defamation charge to stick because McKenna accuses him of selling brewskis in the louski? Good luck with that dude!

Posted by: AntarcticCat | February 2, 2011 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 2, 2011 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Not sure what part of my post you are disagreeing with.

I said that Danny would definitely lose the PR battle.

But my point is that if Danny wants to take a "principled" stand on this and crush the guy, then he could do it, and whatever PR flack Snydes gets, it's not as bad as it would be for McKenna out on the streets.

If we're talking about a war of legal attrition, then the deep-pockets factor favors Snyder...heavily.

What kind of legal war chest does WCP have? It's a dinky newspaper in a dying industry?

The hedge fund that owns WCP isn't going to give a rat's behind about McKenna. It wants WCP to be profitable, and those folks are not going to pour resources into a legal battle just to protect a staff writer.

Posted by: p1funk

The part about Danny losing. I think the legal stuff gets handled on a contingency because there will be some lawyer who knows how to countersue -- and Danny has deep enough pockets to make it worth their while. Courts ... and especially juries ... don't seem to like the guy with huge $$ going after some dinky person's job. I'm pretty sure that if the jury consisted of these folks up here, Danny would lose in a landslide.

Aside from the legal costs, Snyder's actions do nothing for the paper but help it.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 2, 2011 3:47 PM | Report abuse

... Randy Lerner brought expansion franchise. ....

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 2, 2011 3:43 PM

Randy Lerner actually inherited it from his dad, who bought the expansion franchise in 1998. The thing that blows about Randy Lerner (and Ziggy Wilf of the Vikings) is that both of them live in New York City ... a far distance from the states where their franchises are located.

Posted by: dcsween | February 2, 2011 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Maybe he'll buy the paper like he did with ESPN980. BTW...received an email about buying a DHall pro bowl jersey. I think I'll pass.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 2, 2011 3:27 PM |

I think I'll pass gas.

Posted by: AntarcticCat | February 2, 2011 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Also, it was Irsay's drunk dad who removed the Colts from Baltimore. Jim Irsay got the team when his dad died.

Posted by: dcsween | February 2, 2011 3:52 PM | Report abuse

I guess you think we're going to win the super bowl next year.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | February 2, 2011 3:43 PM

I know we're going to win the Super Bowl next year, 24-20.

Posted by: PlayAction | February 2, 2011 3:52 PM | Report abuse

You know, I used to feel sorry for the Raider fans, then I realized most will out live their owner.

Posted by: wireman65 | February 2, 2011 3:55 PM | Report abuse

There is not case for defamation of character if its true.

Posted by: dcsween | February 2, 2011 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Dan Snyder is a bad business man, but a positively horrible football team owner. He surrounds himself with yes men who know nothing about football. He's much more concerned with his image and pocket book, evidenced by how tightly he controls media access to himself and the Redskins, and how he constantly gouges some of the best fans in sports. But his biggest problem is that he's got a Napoleon complex on steroids.
Don't back down CP and WP. I bet you can find 1000 attorneys in the metro area who would work pro bono to fight any sham lawsuit his cronies may file.

Posted by: thadude33 | February 2, 2011 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Cornerback is the least of our worries.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | February 2, 2011 3:18 PM

What we need is a new owner.

Posted by: dcsween | February 2, 2011 3:58 PM | Report abuse

The part about Danny losing. I think the legal stuff gets handled on a contingency because there will be some lawyer who knows how to countersue -- and Danny has deep enough pockets to make it worth their while. Courts ... and especially juries ... don't seem to like the guy with huge $$ going after some dinky person's job. I'm pretty sure that if the jury consisted of these folks up here, Danny would lose in a landslide.

Aside from the legal costs, Snyder's actions do nothing for the paper but help it.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 2, 2011 3:47 PM | Report abuse


Just to be clear, I think danny loses the PR battle, but if he manages to crush McKenna when it's all said and done, then McKenna loses.

The play here isn't the lawsuit itself, it is the threat of lawsuit.

Defamation suits are rarely won, because the law favors free speech so heavily. They are even harder to win when you are a "public figure".

The machinery that goes into motion once a lawsuit is brought is expensive and cumbersome and makes life difficult for all involved - even before it arrives in court. If Danny is ticked enough he can make life costly and miserable for WCP and its owners.

And if the owners are a hedge-fund, then the LAST thing they are trying to do is pour resources like this into a holding that they snatched out of bankruptcy to begin with.

Frivolous lawsuit counterclaims are also rarely won. When people threaten them, they usually do it as a tactic, or because they also have deep-pockets and they want to show the other guy that they can also make life miserable and costly for them.

Bottom line, IMO.

If (at the end of the day) Snydes loses more PR points and McKenna loses his job, I'd say Snydes wins overall.

Posted by: p1funk | February 2, 2011 4:00 PM | Report abuse

The thing that blows about Randy Lerner (and Ziggy Wilf of the Vikings) is that both of them live in New York City ... a far distance from the states where their franchises are located.

Posted by: dcsween | February 2, 2011 3:49 PM |

Pud "The Finger" Adams, owner of the Tenn Titans, resides in Houston, where the team used to reside until in his mind the fans became insufficiently loyal to deserve a NFL fran and he moved it to "greener" (think green = $$$) pastures. The NFL saw it diff as they awarded Houston another fran a few yrs later.

Posted by: AntarcticCat | February 2, 2011 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Rereading the story....It is a petty story that comes off as a bad attempt of humor where every move of question is categorized as 'bad' on the post. Such as:

$20 Redskins Mania tix
$25 Standing Room only tix
Gibbs record w/ Snyder
700 page playbook (That was Gibbs decision to bring in Saunders)
“A Long Time”
American Enterprise Institute
Conflict of Interest
Dan-Jazeera
Dumb and Dumber (very uncalled for from a professional journalist)
Diageo
“Emulate Charlie Chan”:
“Ewwwww!”:
Flat-Screen TV (this was a good thing)
Gates, Bill
Guest House
Helicopter
Hurricane Katrina
Inside the Red Zone With Vinny Cerrato
Kennedy, Robert F
Knott, Rene
Maryland Clean Indoor Air Act of 2007
Market Segments
“More than 200,000”:
Nepotism
Official Mattress of Six Flags
Pentagon Flag Hat
Redskins Unfiltered (actually did tell more to the story the Post was telling RI at the time)
“Ringing Endorsement”:
“Several Million Dollars”: (every team uses Stub Hub)
Slamming
Smith, Bruce, Rear End Of
Sponsored Sponsors
Zorn

Wow.....running through that list piece by piece, I see why Snyder has a defamation case. And if you can't see it, then it's still the same ol same ol RI.........

Are we gonna analyze every business decision he does? Do you expect him to make decisionas favorable to the fans and customers? That's not how you get rich and buy NFL Franchises in your mid 30s.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 2, 2011 4:05 PM | Report abuse

There is not case for defamation of character if its true.

Posted by: dcsween | February 2, 2011 3:55 PM | Report abuse

The bigger issue is that you have to show material loss as a result of the defamation - you have to show real evidence of how the defamation has actually harmed you.

That's tough to do...and it's why the National Enquirer is able to stay in business.

Posted by: p1funk | February 2, 2011 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Bud Adams has other things that ennoble his character.

http://media.thestar.topscms.com/images/d1/8d/7fb81c4b4f9eaa1fc41dbad1b769.jpeg

Posted by: dcsween | February 2, 2011 4:07 PM | Report abuse

The machinery that goes into motion once a lawsuit is brought is expensive and cumbersome and makes life difficult for all involved - even before it arrives in court.

Posted by: p1funk | February 2, 2011 4:00 PM |

The paper can plead poverty (they have been through bankruptcy), get a public defender, and since the charges are frivolous, file a motion for immediate dismissal. Cost to them = $0.

Posted by: AntarcticCat | February 2, 2011 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Free Agency ... Ryan Harris ... Jamaal Brown ... Alex Smith ... D'Qwell Jackson ... Jacoby Jones ...

Posted by: p1funk | February 2, 2011 3:19 PM

I'm down with that except (1) Alex Smith gives me a stomach ache and (2) Jacoby Jones. Routes are routes and hands are hands, regardless of the system.

For WR, I'm pro-lunchpail non-divas (if there are such things in pro WRs), esp. Malcolm Floyd or James Jones (GB).

Alex Smith seems like a project. Too much of an unknown about whether he's been broken by being through too many systems and too many sacks ... see Patrick Ramsey.

Posted by: dcsween | February 2, 2011 4:16 PM | Report abuse

The paper can plead poverty (they have been through bankruptcy), get a public defender, and since the charges are frivolous, file a motion for immediate dismissal. Cost to them = $0.

Posted by: AntarcticCat | February 2, 2011 4:09 PM | Report abuse

First of all, they are not in bankruptcy. They were bought out of bankruptcy and have owners that have plenty of cash.

Second, a defamation suit is a civil lawsuit. You are thinking of a criminal case where the defendant is not able to afford an attorney and is entitled to a public defender. Not the case in a civil suit.

Alot of civil statutes allow a prevailing party to recover attorney fees, but you still have to go through the whole process to get there and ask yourself whether it's worth X number of life hours to deal, if you could also make the problem go away simply by finding a way to get rid of your staff writer.

Posted by: p1funk | February 2, 2011 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Snyder is the reason why i refuse to brave the traffic and see my Skins play homes games......and I won't do so until he sells the team.

Posted by: Carl739 | February 2, 2011 12:21 PM |

Dude, heaven will crash, hell will freeze, the Atlantic will dry before Snyder sells the team, get the picture? You root for the team, not the owner. HTTR

Posted by: abxinc | February 2, 2011 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Free Agency ... Ryan Harris ... Jamaal Brown ... Alex Smith ... D'Qwell Jackson ... Jacoby Jones ...

Posted by: p1funk | February 2, 2011 3:19 PM

I'm down with that except (1) Alex Smith gives me a stomach ache and (2) Jacoby Jones. Routes are routes and hands are hands, regardless of the system.

For WR, I'm pro-lunchpail non-divas (if there are such things in pro WRs), esp. Malcolm Floyd or James Jones (GB).

Alex Smith seems like a project. Too much of an unknown about whether he's been broken by being through too many systems and too many sacks ... see Patrick Ramsey.

Posted by: dcsween | February 2, 2011 4:16 PM | Report abuse

I agree about Jacoby Jones. My number 1 priority with a receiver is, does he have good hands. If he wants to trap the ball against his chest, or bobbles every pass, he is a liability.

Posted by: frediefritz | February 2, 2011 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Snyder always Wins regardless of the record. Revenues from loyal fans will pay for the lawyers. Fans will continue buying a losing product. I wonder if Snyder contributes to Native American charities. Snyder is rich with a beautiful wife and kids. He is a good man but thou shalt not use his name in Vain or else.

Posted by: jercha | February 2, 2011 4:23 PM | Report abuse

..and thou shalt not block his view.. Neighbors beware and mow your lawns.

Posted by: jercha | February 2, 2011 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Krisht on a stick, I can't get away from all this defamation bs. I left here to read some fgootball news, went to PFT, and there is Dan Snyder headlines! Whatever happened to the super bowl, or free agency, or something to do with football?

Posted by: frediefritz | February 2, 2011 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Wow.....running through that list piece by piece, I see why Snyder has a defamation case. And if you can't see it, then it's still the same ol same ol RI.........

Are we gonna analyze every business decision he does? Do you expect him to make decisionas favorable to the fans and customers? That's not how you get rich and buy NFL Franchises in your mid 30s.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 2, 2011 4:05 PM

1. If you can't see it, its either same old same old RI .... or that you know what you need to prove to show defamation of character. If its true, it can't be defamation.

2. I don't see the point you're making. Is it fair to question the business decisions of a public character? Is it fair to laugh at the bad ones? Is it fair to cry about the bad ones that affect the franchise and result in fewer wins and more losses? If the bad decisions still get you rich and enable you to buy (with some heavy leveraging) an NFL franchise in your 30s AND you want to continue to make money from consumers who want to support the franchise, are the consumers NOT allowed to laugh or cry about those bad decision (that happen to be true?)?

Posted by: dcsween | February 2, 2011 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Whatever happened to the super bowl ... ?

Posted by: frediefritz | February 2, 2011 4:26 PM

Speaking of PFT, did you see the bit about Anthony Bryant (DT/NT on Skins roster in the preseason) playing the Super Bowl for the Packers this weekend?

The good news is that Skins were able to hang onto Haynesworth and Kemoeatu.

Posted by: dcsween | February 2, 2011 4:30 PM | Report abuse

The paper can plead poverty (they have been through bankruptcy), ...

Posted by: AntarcticCat | February 2, 2011 4:09 PM | Report abuse

First of all, they are not in bankruptcy. ...

Posted by: p1funk | February 2, 2011 4:19 PM |

Dude - get a dict and look up the preps "through" and "in". Nobody says they was "in" bankruptcy but if you had recently been "through" it makes it easier to plead poverty. Just because your owner has $$$ doesn't make your own pockets "deep".

Posted by: AntarcticCat | February 2, 2011 4:32 PM | Report abuse

You know, I used to feel sorry for the Raider fans, then I realized most will out live their owner.

Posted by: wireman65

I was laughing until I started crying ...

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 2, 2011 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Second, a defamation suit is a civil lawsuit. You are thinking of a criminal case where the defendant is not able to afford an attorney and is entitled to a public defender. Not the case in a civil suit.

Posted by: p1funk | February 2, 2011 4:19 PM |

So you are saying that there is no parallel to the public defender concept for businesses being sued for defamation? I don't believe that. Otherwise half the small businesses in this country who are barely treading water would be put to sleep. Plus most newspapers automatically carry defamation insurance. It's sort of like having driver's insurance. You wouldn't want to be out on the road without it.

Posted by: AntarcticCat | February 2, 2011 4:41 PM | Report abuse

p1funk -- couple of points before we agree to disagree.

Newspapers have been notoriously firm on not letting powerful folks get away with threatening them. Watergate is probably the most famous example. Its sort of in their DNA -- if you can't stand up to the bullies, go into another business.

News organizations that don't defend themselves don't last.

What I find so nuts is that Snyder IS in the media business. I gotta imagine things get said on his stations that are far worse than this article.

Lawsuits are ugly things. But the laws protecting guys like McKenna are really strong and lawyers do love countersuits against very deep pockets.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 2, 2011 4:42 PM | Report abuse

If the bad decisions still get you rich and enable you to buy (with some heavy leveraging) an NFL franchise in your 30s AND you want to continue to make money from consumers who want to support the franchise, are the consumers NOT allowed to laugh or cry about those bad decision (that happen to be true?)?

Posted by: dcsween | February 2, 2011 4:26 PM


Mr Snyder's lawyer will be contacting you shortly....

Posted by: Alan4 | February 2, 2011 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of PFT, did you see the bit about Anthony Bryant (DT/NT on Skins roster in the preseason) playing the Super Bowl for the Packers this weekend?

The good news is that Skins were able to hang onto Haynesworth and Kemoeatu.


Posted by: dcsween | February 2, 2011 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Huh?

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 2, 2011 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Newspapers have been notoriously firm on not letting powerful folks get away with threatening them. ...

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 2, 2011 4:42 PM |

You couldn't buy PR like this. A small feisty independent newspaper standing up to a Billionaire Bully! David vs Goliath! Love it!

Posted by: AntarcticCat | February 2, 2011 4:49 PM | Report abuse

I haven't read the article, but unless the writer did these things, Snyder can't win:

1. Prove malice
2. Prove the writer lied(intentionally).
3. Criticized some aspect of snyder's life that is not "newsworthy".

Snyder's status as a public figure makes it even harder to sue this guy.

Basically Snyder should have looked the other way. He can't win.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 2, 2011 4:51 PM | Report abuse

If there were something untrue in the City Paper story, Snyder would have contacted them and asked for a correction.

Snyder has never even contacted the City Paper because it's all true. This is typical Snyder tone-deaf harrassment.

As Buzz said to Woody in the first Toy Story, "You are a sad, strange little man, and you have my pity."

Posted by: Skeptic21 | February 2, 2011 4:53 PM | Report abuse

TMQ broke down the stats on how much of the Packer and Steeler rosters are "homegrown" via draft and UFA, and it just killed me to read it... only ONE big free agent plash, Charles Woodson, between those two teams.

So, yeah, Albert frickin' Haynesworth. Etc.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 2, 2011 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Of course Snyder's own radio station ESPN 980 has maintained "radio silence" all day on the subject while 106.7 The Fan has been beating it to death. Even Kevin Sheehan's "Skins at 1:00" which is billed as the "biggest Redskins story of the day" didn't mention it and rehashed a day old story about comments Joe Gibbs made.

Posted by: seriesoftubescleaner | February 2, 2011 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Huh?

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 2, 2011 4:44 PM |

Could be sarcasm.

Posted by: AntarcticCat | February 2, 2011 4:54 PM | Report abuse

If Snyder ever sued me, I'd countersue for, oh I don't know....whatever the Redskins are worth.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 2, 2011 4:54 PM | Report abuse

And if I owned the Skins I would have a few ground rules.

1. Draft at least 1 OL and 1 DL every year.
2. Draft picks would be cherished.
3. If, and it's a big if, I decided to get FA. They could not be ex-Cowboys, Giants or Eagles.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 2, 2011 4:58 PM | Report abuse

If Snyder ever sued me, I'd countersue for, oh I don't know....whatever the Redskins are worth.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 2, 2011 4:54 PM

Okay, and with that warning I'm betting that he'll never sue you. You're safe.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 2, 2011 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Dude - get a dict and look up the preps "through" and "in". Nobody says they was "in" bankruptcy but if you had recently been "through" it makes it easier to plead poverty. Just because your owner has $$$ doesn't make your own pockets "deep".

Posted by: AntarcticCat | February 2, 2011 4:32 PM | Report abuse
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For the love of Pete don't lend him yours.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | February 2, 2011 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 2, 2011 3:39 PM |


Excellent post.

After the Senior Bowl, I walked away thinking C Ponder is the guy to be on the look out for in round 2.

Let'em play half a season behind Rex, slug him him in after game 6-10, and let the chips fall where they may.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | February 2, 2011 4:59 PM | Report abuse

TMQ broke down the stats on how much of the Packer and Steeler rosters are "homegrown" via draft and UFA, and it just killed me to read it... only ONE big free agent plash, Charles Woodson, between those two teams.

So, yeah, Albert frickin' Haynesworth. Etc.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 2, 2011 4:53 PM

Packers have had 7 coaches since 1975, the Steelers have had 3 coaches since 1969.

Who knew you could win with homegrown talent and stabillity at the top?

Posted by: Alan4 | February 2, 2011 5:02 PM | Report abuse

TMQ broke down the stats on how much of the Packer and Steeler rosters are "homegrown" via draft and UFA, and it just killed me to read it...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 2, 2011 4:53 PM |

Dude - if it will make you feel any better, Mark Murphy, a former Skins player who is now the Packers prez, learned well at the knee of Bobby Bee and built the Pack's scouting org into a veritable dynamo.

Posted by: AntarcticCat | February 2, 2011 5:06 PM | Report abuse

This is what is now at the bottom of the CityPaper website above the "leave a comment" section ...

PLEASE NOTE: Due to very high traffic on February 2nd, comments are being cached on a separate page. Your comment will not appear immediately, but it will be saved and shown with this article when the page cache is refreshed.

Posted by: dcsween | February 2, 2011 5:07 PM | Report abuse

1. Draft at least 1 OL and 1 DL every year.
2. Draft picks would be cherished.
3. If, and it's a big if, I decided to get FA. They could not be ex-Cowboys, Giants or Eagles.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 2, 2011 4:58 PM

So, you want to mess with managing the team -- you just want to mess differently than Snyder does it. Either you're hands off, trusting your GM, or you're hands on, telling him how to do his job.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 2, 2011 5:08 PM | Report abuse

*****************************************************************************************************************************************************
HEADLINE: Dan Snyder Displays Petulant, Prickly Behavior in Response to Article that Says He Displays Petulant and Prickly Behavior.

February 2 –D.C. News -- Renowned pariah Daniel Snyder has taken offense at an local journalist who apparently has been paying attention to Snyder’s arrogant and incompetent tenure as owner of the hysterically awful Washington Redskins, a group purported to be a, “professional football team.”

The article, titled, “Big Jerks Come in Small Packages” describes the Lilliputian dick-tator’s ongoing circus of stupidity that is the Redskin’s organization.

Appearing in a local indie paper few people actually read, the story accurately describes Snyder’s savant-like talent for incompetence, from screwing longtime, loyal fans, to meddling in the day-to-day running of a football team.

Snyder has taken a storied football franchise and turned into buzzing revenue generator. Despite not having a winning season since Snyder took over, the Washington Redskins have become the second most profitable franchise in the NFL, behind the Dallas Cowboys.

Squeezing every last cent from loyal fans has been Snyder’s trademark. Charging obscene amounts of money for parking, suing season ticket holders and charging to watch training camp are a few of Snyder’s tactics. “I mean 2 dollars to use the bathrooms at Redskin’s stadium,” remarked one long-time fan, “That seems a bit steep to me.”

Surrounding himself with preening sycophants and self-concerned legal parasites, Synder has been adept at keeping reality from seeping into his little world. “We tell him everything is great, fine, smooth sailing Dan-O, and give him a lollypop and he goes away happy.” Said a well-connected Snyderite. “Last year we told him the Redskins won the “Super-Duper Bowl.” He was ecstatic and immediately started talking about raising ticket prices.”

Posted by: ShortNBad | February 2, 2011 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Who knew you could win with homegrown talent and stabillity at the top?

Posted by: Alan4 | February 2, 2011 5:02 PM

The Owner (at the top) is from Rockville, so that's homegrown, plus he made a lot of money (talent in one sense) ... and I'm not in a position to judge stability, particularly about decision-making to threaten suit against a media outlet in the internet age.

I'm going to the googles for a second to ponder Christian Ponder.

Posted by: dcsween | February 2, 2011 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of PFT, did you see the bit about Anthony Bryant (DT/NT on Skins roster in the preseason) playing the Super Bowl for the Packers this weekend?

The good news is that Skins were able to hang onto Haynesworth and Kemoeatu.


Posted by: dcsween | February 2, 2011 4:30 PM

Um, I think you mean Howard Green...

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 2, 2011 5:13 PM | Report abuse

After the Senior Bowl, I walked away thinking C Ponder is the guy to be on the look out for in round 2.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | February 2, 2011 4:59 PM |

Don't know how much credence to place in the Senior bowl. As scampbell1975 would say, it's d-bags playing against other d-bags. Wally World has him #8 in the QB pecking order, factoring in the Senior Bowl shti.

Posted by: AntarcticCat | February 2, 2011 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: 4-12 | February 2, 2011 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Mr Snyder's lawyer will be contacting you shortly....

Posted by: Alan4 | February 2, 2011 4:44 PM |

How can he? Everything is anonymous on this blog. We are free to be free!

Posted by: AntarcticCat | February 2, 2011 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: dcsween | February 2, 2011 4:30 PM

Um, I think you mean Howard Green...

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 2, 2011
5:13 PM

Yes, my bad. Ih8Dallas, my bad.

Posted by: dcsween | February 2, 2011 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Petty Dan! Real petty!

Posted by: vexed50verizonnet | February 2, 2011 5:22 PM | Report abuse

So you are saying that there is no parallel to the public defender concept for businesses being sued for defamation? I don't believe that. Otherwise half the small businesses in this country who are barely treading water would be put to sleep. Plus most newspapers automatically carry defamation insurance. It's sort of like having driver's insurance. You wouldn't want to be out on the road without it.

Posted by: AntarcticCat | February 2, 2011 4:41 PM | Report abuse


The "public defender" is a defense lawyer that is funded by the "public" - meaning our tax dollars.

The reason this right exists is because in a criminal case it is the "public" (in the form of the govt) bringing a charge against someone.

So if the public is going to initiate the lawsuit, the public - in fairness - is going to foot the bill if it has to.

A civil suit is between 2 "private" individual entities. The "public" is not involved except to provide the forum to resolve the dispute (ie the courtroom).

Why should the "public" foot the bill for providing a lawyer to John McKenna and WCP??? I sure as heck don't want to.

What I noted in my post is that a prevailing party - ie the "winner" - in a civil suit usually has the right to go after the "loser" to cover the cost of their lawyer fees.

So the check/balance is this: Bring a civil lawsuit at your own risk, b/c if you lose you will likely end up footing the bill for everyone.

And the world is full of plenty of examples where small businesses are sunk/obliterated b/c of civil lawsuits that they can;t afford.

That's why the big businesses spend beaucoup bucks keeping big-time lawyers on retainter.


You don't have to like it, but you have to believe it.

Posted by: p1funk | February 2, 2011 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Some peeps are uncomfortable with criticism of or inconvenience for rich people ... because everyone want to be rich.

Posted by: dcsween | February 2, 2011 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Dude - get a dict and look up the preps "through" and "in". Nobody says they was "in" bankruptcy but if you had recently been "through" it makes it easier to plead poverty. Just because your owner has $$$ doesn't make your own pockets "deep".

Posted by: AntarcticCat | February 2, 2011 4:32 PM | Report abuse


Ok dude, get a clue.

There's no such thing as pleading "poverty".

Posted by: p1funk | February 2, 2011 5:32 PM | Report abuse

What I noted in my post is that a prevailing party - ie the "winner" - in a civil suit usually has the right to go after the "loser" to cover the cost of their lawyer fees.

So the check/balance is this: Bring a civil lawsuit at your own risk, b/c if you lose you will likely end up footing the bill for everyone.

Posted by: p1funk | February 2, 2011 5:30 PM

You're right on most of the rest of the post, but in the majority of states in the U.S. (and in the federal system), the parties bear their own legal fees. Its different (loser pays) in England. Prevailing parties only get fees in cases against the feds or if a state/fed law specifically allows it.

The reason big business spends lots of money on lawyers is because they have lots of money and don't want to lose.

Posted by: dcsween | February 2, 2011 5:36 PM | Report abuse

I have HATED the 'Skins for years, but now I'm starting to feel sorry for y'all. You'll soon be like Cleveland, a team to pity and wait for the next owner.

Posted by: george74 | February 2, 2011 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Just because your owner has $$$ doesn't make your own pockets "deep".

Posted by: AntarcticCat | February 2, 2011 4:32 PM | Report abuse


Actually that is exactly what it means...WTH are you talking about?

Snyder will go after WCP and name its parent entities to the lawsuit.

Posted by: p1funk | February 2, 2011 5:37 PM | Report abuse

beep-beep

Posted by: beep-beep | February 2, 2011 5:45 PM | Report abuse

WCP probably carries libel insurance, which means their insurer is footing the legal bill. Secondly, credibility is any paper's stock in trade. Fire McKenna and WCP's credibility goes to zero. WCP _has_ to fight this. Finally, they can probably get this dismissed in pleadings. Pre-trial motions aren't that costly.

Posted by: gbooksdc | February 2, 2011 6:35 PM | Report abuse

OK...

So since we, as fans, can't raise money to buy the Redskins, maybe we can start a movement to raise money in support of the WCP's legal fees.

It could be futile, but it could also send a pretty clear message to Snyder just how much the fanbase despises him if enough money is raised.

Anyone interested?

W

Posted by: jmorrisa | February 2, 2011 7:06 PM | Report abuse

please Snyder sell the team and hit the road....everything you touch turns to crap

Posted by: Mark99 | February 2, 2011 7:07 PM | Report abuse

If no one working for him is willing to tell him how bad a move this is, then you wonder if he's creating an environment where he can get good advice. This bodes ill for the Redskins on the field, as well.

Posted by: preacherskid | February 2, 2011 7:48 PM | Report abuse

dan snyder is a spineless coward...dave mckenna only detailed dan snyder's incompetence during the 12 years he has owned the redskins and fleeced reskin fans for every dime he can

Posted by: jrebstock | February 2, 2011 8:11 PM | Report abuse

THE RETURN OF THE SMALL MAN BEFORE THE BIG GAME

I suppose we Redskin fans possess a hidden fear and hope about our owner. We fear he is as idiotic and narrow-minded as he seems, yet we hope he will change and rise above his small man persona.

It is thus before the biggest game in the Sport that we have the return of the small man with a wallet that pads his backside to compensate his small stature as a man. Sadly, while he has hidden himself in the shadows, he has demonstrated he's learned nothing, grew no backbone, and certainly hasn't grown up.

As Redskin fans we experience some delicious joy watching the Cowboys and their jerk owner whose face-lifts are now reaching urban renewal status instead of cosmetic surgery. We have enjoyed his misery as the team he's built crumbles like a sand castle being greeted by the incoming tide. And we thank our lucky stars that we don't have to watch him 16 games in our highlight reels.

But our enjoyment of Cowboy misery cannot hide the fact that our owner is a petty man with more financial net worth than human soul. It seems that we invest so much more pride in this team than the owner does in common sense. Just when we think the Little Napoleon has learned his lesson, he comes back like that yippie dog and bites you repeatedly on the ankle. We are simply Charlie Brown hoping that this time Lucy won't pull the football out from under us as we go to kick it.

And yet, we fall face first in the muck and embarrassment that he continues to shovel on us.

And so the saga of our Redskins continues - its league-wide ridicule has more fuel at our expense. Since the departure of Jack Kent Cooke, we've endured the Ground Hog Day experience of offseason promise and regular season shame. Apparently regardless of who is in uniform, who is the coach, and who is the manager, we cannot overcome the idiocy that signs the checks and parades around Washington as if he just returned from a battlefield victory like Napoleon. And yet, our copy of Napoleon can't even rise above his own stupidity and bring home a trophy despite spending like Barrack Obama.

We should have expected as much from our pimple of a man. He's been so consistently obtuse and idiotic that the shame of the Redskins can no longer be removed without a revolt by Redskin fans.

Posted by: laserwizard | February 2, 2011 11:53 PM | Report abuse

THE RETURN OF THE SMALL MAN BEFORE THE BIG GAME

I suppose we Redskin fans possess a hidden fear and hope about our owner. We fear he is as idiotic and narrow-minded as he seems, yet we hope he will change and rise above his small man persona.

It is thus before the biggest game in the Sport that we have the return of the small man with a wallet that pads his backside to compensate his small stature as a man. Sadly, while he has hidden himself in the shadows, he has demonstrated he's learned nothing, grew no backbone, and certainly hasn't grown up.

As Redskin fans we experience some delicious joy watching the Cowboys and their jerk owner whose face-lifts are now reaching urban renewal status instead of cosmetic surgery. We have enjoyed his misery as the team he's built crumbles like a sand castle being greeted by the incoming tide. And we thank our lucky stars that we don't have to watch him 16 games in our highlight reels.

But our enjoyment of Cowboy misery cannot hide the fact that our owner is a petty man with more financial net worth than human soul. It seems that we invest so much more pride in this team than the owner does in common sense. Just when we think the Little Napoleon has learned his lesson, he comes back like that yippie dog and bites you repeatedly on the ankle. We are simply Charlie Brown hoping that this time Lucy won't pull the football out from under us as we go to kick it.

And yet, we fall face first in the muck and embarrassment that he continues to shovel on us.

And so the saga of our Redskins continues - its league-wide ridicule has more fuel at our expense. Since the departure of Jack Kent Cooke, we've endured the Ground Hog Day experience of offseason promise and regular season shame. Apparently regardless of who is in uniform, who is the coach, and who is the manager, we cannot overcome the idiocy that signs the checks and parades around Washington as if he just returned from a battlefield victory like Napoleon. And yet, our copy of Napoleon can't even rise above his own stupidity and bring home a trophy despite spending like Barrack Obama.

We should have expected as much from our pimple of a man. He's been so consistently obtuse and idiotic that the shame of the Redskins can no longer be removed without a revolt by Redskin fans.

Posted by: laserwizard | February 2, 2011 11:53 PM | Report abuse

I'm 46 and I have childhood memories watching Sonny play. I was born in dc and have always lived here and I am as die hard a fan as you will ever find. Bottom line.I have never met a redskins fan who likes Snyder. Plenty of us, however,are fans of McKenna.

Posted by: jack_mo_99 | February 2, 2011 11:54 PM | Report abuse

I'm 46 and I have childhood memories watching Sonny play. I was born in dc and have always lived here and I am as die hard a fan as you will ever find. Bottom line.I have never met a redskins fan who likes Snyder. Plenty of us, however,are fans of McKenna.

Posted by: jack_mo_99 | February 2, 2011 11:54 PM | Report abuse

In today's world where Egypt's dictator can't hide the truth from social networking, "Mr Snyder" doesn't help himself by trying to play the role of 1950's banana republic tyrannical dictator. If you want people to talk about you like you are a quality individual you need to be a quality individual! Bad Branding There Danny Boy! http://techcocktail.com/social-media-brand-redskins-2011-01

Posted by: Glen7 | February 3, 2011 8:37 AM | Report abuse

Snyder will pay the higher price when it comes to PR but McKenna when it comes to rep. I know a good 95% of what he wrote was true but it MUST BE 100% TRUE. The picture is just a joke and warrants no comment.
I just want all of you "so-called" fans that love the Redskins to truly look at what we got.
Is he self absorbed? Yes
Is he arrogant? Yes
Is he Napolionic? Yes
Is alot of what was written true? Yes
Could he be better? Yes

BUT...I want you all to think long and hard about this one. Clear your mind.


Does he try to help us win?
....Think now.

YES HE DOES!!!!!
He may go about it the wrong way but his ultimate goal is to win.
Dont you think he would love to hoist the Lombardi Trophy like all owners do.

Remember he is and was a kid, compaired to most, if not all owners and you can't compair him to the late Jack Kent Cook (He was over 60).
It is said when Jack was inexperienced owner not the old sage we remember making expert decisions and keeping his nose out of company business like he was during the time of the hogs and Joe Gibbs.
That takes maturity.

Most, if not all was written about things he did in his past.
I hate reading it but the one thing he has now that he never had ealier is PATIENCE. Give him a break, he has finally hired some football people to run his team. Now we as fans need PATIENCE. He is 10 years older then he was when he bought the teamt dont blame him for the past. If you can forgive Vick, "Big Ben" and others you can forgive him.
Thank You Jason

Posted by: myskins4life | February 3, 2011 8:53 AM | Report abuse

Snyder made McKenna famous. Every newspaper and magazine across the country will now know his name.

Posted by: ProfessorWrightBSU | February 3, 2011 8:55 AM | Report abuse

Unsolicited whispered advice from afar: Dan needs his nanny to change his diaper. And, Dave McKenna could put a "surgeon general" type warning at the head of all his stories about Dan's stewardship of the Redskins, that he is not an anti-semite, never has been an anti-semite, and will not be an anti-semite, as evidenced by his close friendship to a Steinberg." Also, in the spirit of civility that is currently enveloping Washington DC, Dave McKenna could write a formal "Thank You" note to Dan Snyder, for enabling him to eke out a living in the newspaper business thru reporting on Dan Snyder.

Posted by: ViewfromBoston | February 3, 2011 9:47 AM | Report abuse

FYI- Dave McKenna wrote the Robert Plant review for the Post today. Interesting.

Posted by: skins_fan_22 | February 3, 2011 10:18 AM | Report abuse

What we are talking about is a pure Economic Animal whose only motivation and guidance is Adam Smith's Invisible Hand. His use of the bludgeon of pure economic power to suppress an instrument of the free press shows that he is not only amoral, racist (his defense of the name "Redskins") but also un-American. What is needed here is to establish a legal defense fund for "City Paper" to which we could all contribute and carry the fight to this thoroughly disreputable creature.

Posted by: harold_pavel | February 3, 2011 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Neither loses.

Snyder is who he is. We all know this, he still does his little-boy Napoleon routine, the Skins lose, life goes on, nothing changes. This too shall pass.

McKenna laid out in stunning detail a well-sourced review of Snyder's decade at the Redskins helm. McKenna has a history of writing pieces critical of Snyder, so from him, this isn't new either. It's McKenna being McKenna.

I'm fine with both of these two. Neither is going to change. If anything, McKenna gains some (more) national exposure.

Posted by: ennepe68 | February 3, 2011 10:54 AM | Report abuse

@myskins4life ("Most, if not all was written about things he did in his past.")

Have you not been paying attention? The items written about Snyder covered an arc that is twelve years long. Snyder is (allegedly) an adult, and therefore firmly established in his behavior. If there is anything McKenna has shown, it is the inability of Snyder to grasp the consequences of his actions and learn from them, a pattern of mistakes that he makes to this day.

It's no longer about "wanting to win." I don't question that -- who doesn't want to win? Wanting to win is not enough. The measure of character in a person is how they treat those around them, and by all measures, Snyder fails miserably. He is not beyond redemption, but he cannot redeem himself while he holds so much power and money as owner of the Washington NFL franchise.

To achieve a meaningful sense of identity, purpose, and character, Snyder needs to set aside everything he has - "lose it all", in a sense - and be forced to face truths and rely upon his own inner strength. It's painful, but true enlightenment is impossible now.

I pity him, I really do, being trapped by all that wealth, unable to grow and learn. He has become a sad character trapped in his helicopter.

Posted by: ennepe68 | February 3, 2011 11:09 AM | Report abuse

This happened to me before and it really f'ed my life up. I'm so disgusted right now. Would anyone like my medium women's Redskins sweatshirt? I can't support this team any longer!

Posted by: kimWP1 | February 3, 2011 11:10 AM | Report abuse

This is asymmetrical warfare -- there is no upside for Mr. Snyder, and plenty of upside for WCP. Mr. Snyder shows questionable judgment in pursuing this -- I would not have noticed the dust-up, and the embarrassment to Mr. Snyder, had this article not appeared.

Posted by: Richard-in-PA | February 3, 2011 11:30 AM | Report abuse

This is outrageous. Snyder's lawyers aren't even pretending that this is a fair fight. They're blatantly threatening to get what they want using deep pockets and it is utterly disgusting. McKenna probably makes what, $45k? Are you kidding me?? Snyder's a billionaire and a wuss. Grow a pair, Snyder.

Posted by: robgoszkowski | February 3, 2011 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Snyder will continue his practices, and the sheep will keep buy, buy, buying. Until the fans take a stand and hit him where it hurt$, forget it.

Posted by: irascible1 | February 3, 2011 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Tonight I did something I never thought I'd do: I threw my Darrell Green jersey and Redskins hat in the trash. I've loved this team since 1970, been to dozens of games, got the signed Riggo poster, everything. But this bullying assault by Dan Snyder to use his wealth to silence free speech... he CHOSE to get in the public crosshairs when he bought the team!! And now he is suing some little alternative newspaper? I cannot support the team again until he sells.

Posted by: SurfPop | February 3, 2011 7:07 PM | Report abuse

Couldn't agree more with the comments about how this lawsuit shows Snyder to be the utterly classless, greedy business owner who sees the world in zero-sum terms-- fans give, he takes. He's quite proud of the "value" he's created by extracting every last cent from his customers to boost the Redskin's revenue numbers-- not realizing how he's actually devalued his product in the long run by treating everyone (employees, customers, the public) so shabbily.

People will get tired of him and his game. Just wait until he asks citizens to fund his new stadium-- that will be the time that he'll really understand our disdain for him. And it will cost him.

One last thing, can we stop referring to him as "Mister" Synder? I've always thought that a term of respect-- and I certainly have none for him. And suspect very few others do either.

Posted by: Bigbobhooter | February 3, 2011 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Snyder is making it embarrassing to be a Skins fan. I feel like a little helpless kid - "I wish he would just.....go away!!!" - even though we know he want, because the Redskins are his favorite toy.

Posted by: chop1 | February 4, 2011 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Here is the thing about the lawsuit MCkenna attacked snyder outside of what he did as an owner he said something about snyder committed a fraud during his time at snyder communications before he bought this team now the main question is this what is mckenna basing this on what kind of evidence does he have to back this up this is nothing but a serious accusation without the proof he losing this lawsuit no matter how good his lawyers are he does not have the kind of money to match wits with snyder he also attacked tanya snyder what was that about that i don't know as far as who loses this battle in my opinion it's mckenna more than snyder.

Posted by: rmnkevorkian | February 5, 2011 10:44 PM | Report abuse

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