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Posted at 8:00 AM ET, 11/18/2010

Daniel Snyder calls loss to Eagles 'embarrassing' at U-Md. appearance

By Rick Maese

Looking back on Monday night's loss to the Philadelphia Eagles, perhaps the most popular word around Redskins Park this week has been "embarrassing." It was used by everyone from the head coach to the quarterback. Add team owner Daniel Snyder to that list.
Snyder discussed the game briefly in an appearance at the University of Maryland on Wednesday night.

"No. 1, it's embarrassing. And I felt terrible for all our fans," said Snyder, speaking at the school's Shirley Povich Colonnade Reception. "Monday night, we were jacked up and tailgating was spectacular, team got in a fight before the game back and forth. I'm like, 'Okay, we're going to take them.' And then that guy [Michael Vick] ran all over the place, threw the ball perfectly and got on us before we knew what hit us. And occasionally that's going to happen.

"The next day, I'm in the tank. Talked to Mike [Shanahan] last night -- I was still in pajamas, so...

"It's a tough thing," he continued. "But the good thing is, we play again Sunday. Get back going. It's that simple. In the business of sports, it is binary; it's wins and losses. But Monday was a little embarrassing for us."

Snyder said a lot of other things and we'll share them later. He was part of a panel that discussed the topic, "The Changing Landscape of Sports: How much is too much?" The symposium was moderated by Maury Povich, the popular talk show host and son of Shirley Povich. At one point,he asked Snyder whether the owner is less hands-on than he was six years ago.

"Joe Gibbs was here six years ago, so the answer is no," Snyder said. "In fact, there's a lot similar between Mike Shanahan and Joe Gibbs. We have hall of fame coaches who do their thing. The biggest difference is that now I've got a general manager and he helps with Mike tremendously.

"For me, it's fun. It's obviously incredibly disappointing, terrible thing what we experienced on Monday. But we're in good hands. I feel very, very positive about the organization."

The reception drew a good crowd. Snyder was well-received and appeared to be comfortable sitting alongside the likes of ESPN personalities Tony Kornheiser and Scott Van Pelt on the panel. Toward the end of the evening, members of the audience asked questions. Snyder received one from a student who identified herself as the president of the school's American Indian Student Union. She invited Snyder to a meeting next Monday at which the organization plans to discuss the Redskins' team name "and why it is wrong."

Snyder explained that he's out of town, but he appreciated the invitation.

"Obviously that issue, for us, we feel real strong about," he said. "It's not meant as any offense. In fact, it stands for winning and tradition and the heritage and history of the team. But we are sensitive obviously to people's feelings."

By Rick Maese  | November 18, 2010; 8:00 AM ET
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Comments

"And occasionally that's going to happen."

ARE YOU F*ING KIDDING ME? YOU ARE A JOKE DAN SNYDER.

Posted by: shepkillion | November 18, 2010 8:09 AM | Report abuse

I don't hate Dan Snyder as much as some fans do.

Posted by: rickyroge | November 18, 2010 8:12 AM | Report abuse

Snyder said a lot of other things and we'll share them later.

By Rick Maese | November 18, 2010; 8:00 AM ET

Why? Cause you can't find anything else to cut-n-paste? Get ready for 10 more posts on Snyder's comments from the other night! I'll be sitting on the edge of my laptop anxiously waiting, you NERD!

Posted by: monk811 | November 18, 2010 8:20 AM | Report abuse

Beep, 100% agree...why people up here think practice squad guys in any way represents some sort of a fix is beyond me. I mean, practice squad guys are there because we didn't deem them good enough to make the 53 man roster and NONE of the other 31 teams in the league did either. A guy is on the p-squad for a reason...

Brown, um, have you seen JGalloway/SHeyer/KLichstiger/RWilliam play, and in the case of Kory, he wasn't deemed good enough to play at ALL last year, but somehow he's a starter for this team?? I mean come on...they're offense has STUNK all year long, JGallo has 9 catches, and you don't think that maybe Austin could be of more help?? Seriously??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 18, 2010 8:23 AM | Report abuse

Player Haters all over the place.

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 18, 2010 8:25 AM | Report abuse

Wow...Snyder sure is a lot more talkative these days. He must REALLY like the direction of the team if he's not in hiding like he's been for most of the last 10 years...

Good call monk...WaPo couldn't possible post actual, you know, Skins information to RI so they'll sprinking in bit and pieces of this bullsh*t interview with Snyder for the next week or so. Pitiful...

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 18, 2010 8:26 AM | Report abuse

I don't hate Dan Snyder as much as some fans do.

Posted by: rickyroge | November 18, 2010 8:12 AM
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I don't hate him at all. He's been just what he said he was, "A businessman who had the good fortune to buy the team he has rooted for his entire life". There's not a person on this board who, if in similar circumstances, wouldn't have meddled with the operation to some extent. Maybe some would have learned earlier than Snyder that they didn't know as much about football as they thought they did, but they all would have done it.

As for the other things, not directly related to hiring and firing, it is easily explainable as a person with Snyder's background. Most of his actions can be explained with the simple statement, "Because it makes money". We fans like to think of football as a game, but to the owners, football is also a business. Snyder didn't sink his hard earned cash into the Redskins just for the love the team, he intended to make money: lots of money.

It is because he is who is that we can bet Snyder will eventually get it right. He has to put a good product on the field in order to make money. He has to win that Superbowl eventually because that puts the team in the national spotlight and that makes more money.

I don't hate Dan Snyder because his rich and has tinkered with the team because he could. This is the US. If you don't like it then go make your billions and buy the team from him. Of course, after you have worked so hard to get what you want, let's see you not meddle with the team. Before you start your denials, ask yourself why you like to play Madden Football...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 18, 2010 8:27 AM | Report abuse

I hope so. I think we win this game, get to 5-5....We're still in this thing.


Well, until the last game of the year, all teams are in it, aren't they?

I think the redskins will shake off Monday Nite's Philthy beatdown and execute whatever scheme changes the team put into place over the BYE.

Wins against the titans/vikes are doable.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 18, 2010 8:29 AM | Report abuse

Wow...Snyder sure is a lot more talkative these days.

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 18, 2010 8:26 AM | Report abuse

I think he's been hanging out a lot more with Jerry 'The Lush' Jones, they looked buddy buddy on that commercial, makes sense they'd be hitting the bar together. Loose lips........

Posted by: monk811 | November 18, 2010 8:31 AM | Report abuse

Finally a contract done by the Skins where the player got the shaft no the team. Things are definatley changing for the better.

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 18, 2010 6:16 AM | Report abuse

??

How did the player get the shaft in this deal?

We are going to give DMac another $3.5 mill on top of what he was already making this year.

What exactly are we walking away with? The option to part ways with him after this season? We already had that option available and didn't have to pay $3.5 mill to get it.

Posted by: p1funk | November 18, 2010 8:33 AM | Report abuse

Well, until the last game of the year, all teams are in it, aren't they?

I think the redskins will shake off Monday Nite's Philthy beatdown and execute whatever scheme changes the team put into place over the BYE.

Wins against the titans/vikes are doable.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 18, 2010 8:29 AM | Report abuse

I think so too Moe.

High five

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 18, 2010 8:34 AM | Report abuse

He's a fan...just like you and me...GET IT?

Posted by: Pepper5 | November 18, 2010 8:40 AM | Report abuse


Brown, um, have you seen JGalloway/SHeyer/KLichstiger/RWilliam play, and in the case of Kory, he wasn't deemed good enough to play at ALL last year, but somehow he's a starter for this team?? I mean come on...they're offense has STUNK all year long, JGallo has 9 catches, and you don't think that maybe Austin could be of more help?? Seriously??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 18, 2010 8:23 AM |
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agree with greg,

after detroit and monday nights game, I would think that shanahan would like to see what some of the PS players can do in game situations. his first move should be getting BBanks into the offense and activate austin to play in place of galloway. maybe he sends a message to the team about their performance by bringing up PS guys

Posted by: hessone | November 18, 2010 8:40 AM | Report abuse

??

How did the player get the shaft in this deal?

We are going to give DMac another $3.5 mill on top of what he was already making this year.

What exactly are we walking away with? The option to part ways with him after this season? We already had that option available and didn't have to pay $3.5 mill to get it.


Posted by: p1funk | November 18, 2010 8:33 AM |

Yes but now we have the option to keep him and we don't have to commit to anything beyond next year.

What if he turns it around this year and plays great then the price would sky rocket.

Plus we can wait until the 1st game of the season to pick his option up so if he doesn't look good in training camp or OTA's we can cut him.

What the f-ck do you care if Dan Snyder spends 3.5 mill. in an uncapped year, is that in some way effecting you.

If Vinny was still here the deal would have been for 100mil with 50mil guaranteed and no way to get out of it until the year 2015.

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 18, 2010 8:41 AM | Report abuse

Greg, all I'm saying is that if you or anyone else thinks that Austin is a cure all or an instant upgrade at WR, that's at best wildly optimistic considering he can't crack a 53 man roster on a WR-starved team. As of now, there's NO reason to believe he's any more suited to come in and help than any of the other "P-squad All-Stars of RI" like Marcus Mason, Marko Mitchell, or Colt Brennan. I mean, let's throw Shay Hodge out there while we're at it...

Don't get me wrong...Galloway gotta go. All I'm sayin' is that we shouldn't necessarily expect to see an immediate upgrade on the roster. If there was one here, he'd be playing.

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 18, 2010 8:41 AM | Report abuse

What exactly are we walking away with? The option to part ways with him after this season? We already had that option available and didn't have to pay $3.5 mill to get it.


Posted by: p1funk | November 18, 2010 8:33 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, but this makes it so that he wouldn't just walk away in FA next year, we'd actually get a draft pick for him. I know multiple picks are out of the question, only a NERD team (like us) would send away MULTIPLE picks for him, but I don't think it is unrealistic for a desperate team like Arizone or Minnesota to send us a 2nd or a 3rd rounder for him. Plus there's always a chance that he catches on and has a good second half of the year and gives us something to look forward to next year!

Posted by: monk811 | November 18, 2010 8:45 AM | Report abuse

This is from PFT i'm not the only one that thinks McNabb got the shaft.


McNabb’s option bonus doesn’t come due until Week One of 2011 season
Posted by Mike Florio on November 17, 2010, 10:25 PM EST
Though the Redskins have the ability to trade or cut quarterback Donovan McNabb before he earns a $10 million option bonus in 2011, the precise deadline for exercising the option bonus was not previously known.

It now is.

Like many other option bonuses to be paid out in 2011, the window for exercising the bonus opens on the first day of the next league year (which will be March 1, if there’s a new labor deal by then) and closes on the day after the first regular-season game. While the device as applied to other players was aimed at ensuring that the option bonuses will be paid once the labor situation is resolved, the device as applied to McNabb gives the Redskins the ability to squat on McNabb’s rights for the entire offseason, exploring their options via free agency, trade, or the draft before trading or cutting McNabb.

As a practical matter, a final decision likely will be made on or before the Friday before Week One of the 2011 season, due to the rules regarding termination pay. As one league source observed, “They can really stick it to him.” The source also pointed out that it’s hard to believe such a deal ever would be contained in a quarterback contract, especially in a contract for an older quarterback.

For those of you who have made it this far, here’s another interesting tidbit. If McNabb ever wakes up and realizes that the Redskins have now blocked him from the open market and placed him in a position where they can trade him wherever they choose, he has an option for taking matters back into his own hands. For the modest sum of $30 million, McNabb can buy out the final five years of the contract.

We’ve got a feeling that the Redskins call this “the Haynesworth Clause.”

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 18, 2010 8:45 AM | Report abuse

I would think that shanahan would like to see what some of the PS players can do in game situations....

Posted by: hessone | November 18, 2010 8:40 AM


What have you seen in Shanahan to lead you to believe that? From what I've seen, he tends to roll with vets and has a Gibbs-esque distrust of rookies. The only way Shanahan (or any other coach worth a damn) is throwing p-squad guys onto the field to "see what they've got" is if we're mathematically eliminated from the playoffs and they're looking at next season. Which clearly isn't the case here, because we're still only halfway thru the season and still very much alive.

Just because a few punch drunk fans think the season is over doesn't mean the team does too.

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 18, 2010 8:46 AM | Report abuse

brown, again, considering that Kory was deemed unfit to play in the NFL last year by 32 teams, but he gets the starting nod here, I'm not sure that you can't call into question Shanny's player picking ability...not to mention that his last 1st round pick with the Bronco's just got the axe...curious if the Redskins will bring him in for a look see...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 18, 2010 8:48 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: shepkillion | November 18, 2010 8:48 AM | Report abuse

Daniel Snyder calls loss to Eagles 'embarrassing' at U-Md. appearance

By Rick Maese | November 18, 2010; 8:00 AM ET

PlayAction called loss to Eagles 'embarrassing' two days ago on Redskins Insider.

Posted by: PlayAction | November 18, 2010 8:50 AM | Report abuse

New RI Poll:

Which 2-3 week stretch goes down as the most dysfunctional and debaculous in the Dan Snyder era:


1) Snyder fires Norv Turner after a loss to the NYG. The team is 7-6 and still in playoff contention. It is the only time in NFL history that a coach is fired midseason with a winning record.


2) Steve Spurrier finishes his second season as HC with a 31-7 blowout loss against the Iggles. Spurrier does not conduct any end-of-season interviews and phones in his resignation from the golf course.


3) After a promising 8-8 season under first year coach and GM Mary Schottenheimer, where the Skins fought back from an 0-5 start, SNyder decides to fire Schottenheimer and re-hire best buddy Vinny Cerratto.


4) After the resignation of Gibbs 2.0. Snerratto takes the reins of a playoff team and hires Jim Zorn as OC, even before a head coach is hired. After failing to find and adequate HC candidate, Cerratto promotes Zorn to HC, though he has never held a coaching position higher than QB coach.

5) After benching DMcNabb against the Lions before a bye week; speculation is ripe that the high-priced QB is on the "outs". Instead, he is re-signed to a contract announced before a Monday Night game against his old team. The Redskins then get schellacked in a record-breaking loss at the hands of Mike Vick - the QB that replaced McNabb on his old team.

Posted by: p1funk | November 18, 2010 8:50 AM | Report abuse

"Snyder discussed the game briefly in an appearance at the University of Maryland on Wednesday night."

Get this ASS away from my school before his jinx hits our football and basketball team.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 18, 2010 8:50 AM | Report abuse

DUDES! Can we all just relax a bit and stop wanting to crucify Dan? Yes, he's made his mistakes but he isn't the one that puts on the pads and plays, nor does he coach the players that go out and sh*t the bed most Sundays. The players on Monday night's debacle did not show up. They played with ZIPPY emotion and I noticed it from the first snap. That 88 yd dagger just put us out of our misery before we would've have lost it anyways.
I'm not a Dan apologist but he is one piece, albeit large piece, to this puzzle. I put Mondays embarrassment on the coaches for not preparing our team and the players for playing like they'd rather be somewhere else.

Posted by: P00P | November 18, 2010 8:50 AM | Report abuse

We’ve got a feeling that the Redskins call this “the Haynesworth Clause.”

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 18, 2010 8:45 AM | Report abuse

So Bruce Allen & Co. have a flair for dickishness with contracts...I guess that is a step in the right direction.

Posted by: Pepper5 | November 18, 2010 8:52 AM | Report abuse


Just because a few punch drunk fans think the season is over doesn't mean the team does too.

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 18, 2010 8:46 AM |

what does that got to do with seeing if austin can perform better than galloway in game situations ? if he's worse than galloway, he doesn't even belong on the practice squad

Posted by: hessone | November 18, 2010 8:53 AM | Report abuse

Most revealing part of the interview:
Dan Snyder wears pajamas.

Would have thought him to be the sort who sleeps au naturale.

Not that it makes much difference, heh, heh...

Posted by: Vic1 | November 18, 2010 8:54 AM | Report abuse

Daniel Snyder calls loss to Eagles 'embarrassing' at U-Md. appearance

By Rick Maese | November 18, 2010; 8:00 AM ET

PlayAction called loss to Eagles 'embarrassing' two days ago on Redskins Insider.

Posted by: PlayAction | November 18, 2010 8:50 AM | Report abuse

Monk811 called loss to Eagles 'embarrassing' Monday Night with 14:51 left on the clock in the 2nd Qt. with the Eagles ahead 35-0!

Posted by: monk811 | November 18, 2010 8:55 AM | Report abuse

So Bruce Allen & Co. have a flair for dickishness with contracts...I guess that is a step in the right direction.

Posted by: Pepper5 | November 18, 2010 8:52 AM |

All teams but the Skins of the past have a dickishness with contracts is called being smart, the player can choose not to sign the contract.

So pepper you hated the way stuff used to be done and now that they are doing what most teams do they are d-cks, sounds to me like you need a new team to root for.

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 18, 2010 8:57 AM | Report abuse

Another point - Did anyone think we were going to win the SB this year, or even get into the playoffs? If so, take a look at yourself in the mirror and literally F your own face. We need OH SO much to be a playoff team. High expectations create more frustration when in reality we're not a good team, expect to lose 8+ games this season and stop thinking that because we got blown out we need to clean house. I was PISSED on Tuesday like most down here but Snyderatto created a situation for us that is going to take a few years to recover from...now that coked up Vinnie is gone we have the right people and mentality moving forward. This ship isn't going to right itself in 1 or 2 years, face it.

Posted by: P00P | November 18, 2010 8:58 AM | Report abuse

RE: Snyder

Dan's a fan...just like you and me...GET IT?

Anyone old enough to remember the first Bush?

Message: I care

Posted by: Pepper5 | November 18, 2010 8:59 AM | Report abuse

Yes but now we have the option to keep him and we don't have to commit to anything beyond next year.

What if he turns it around this year and plays great then the price would sky rocket.

Plus we can wait until the 1st game of the season to pick his option up so if he doesn't look good in training camp or OTA's we can cut him.

What the f-ck do you care if Dan Snyder spends 3.5 mill. in an uncapped year, is that in some way effecting you.

If Vinny was still here the deal would have been for 100mil with 50mil guaranteed and no way to get out of it until the year 2015.

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 18, 2010 8:41 AM | Report abuse


What if he turns it around??

It's Week 11, and if you haven't noticed the trend, the play is getting worse.

The team around him is in shambles; ok. It ain't turning around.

The only "good" thing about this is that it may help us get some pennies on the dollar back in what is turning out to be spectacularly stupid decision if we end up trading him and getting a pick back.

Posted by: p1funk | November 18, 2010 8:59 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: P00P | November 18, 2010 8:50 AM | Report abuse

Uh oh, he's bbbaaaccckkkk!

Fat_Back yesterday and now P00P today, I think Poopy's making a comeback!!!

Posted by: monk811 | November 18, 2010 8:59 AM | Report abuse

What if he turns it around this year and plays great then the price would sky rocket?


If there intention is to keep McNabb, I'd say the team will target some playmakers in FA.

Sidney Rice?

VJAX?

Signing these two while devoting the draft to lineman would go a long way in improving McNabb's play.

That is, if you believe that adding playmakers will.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 18, 2010 9:00 AM | Report abuse

I sometimes wish a Radio personality would sleep on a billboard (a la the Orioles) or go on a modified hunger strike or something until this team is good. The mounting huge disappointments year after year, what can be done? What can draw enough attention? What could be a catalyst for meaningful change? The Redskins are a house built on sand (years of improper foundation) any time there is a storm they are washed away. But the fans keep filling the house and so it is rebuilt year after year in a FAILING cycle.

The games are not enjoyable.

Who cares if we pay truckloads of money to McNabb and Haynesworth--if we can't block on the o-line, and stop people with our D-line than none of the investments are worth anything.

Posted by: DownTownClown | November 18, 2010 9:01 AM | Report abuse

I'M MAD AND CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE!!!

For years as fans we have screamed for competent management and fiscal responsibility. For those negative "fans" let me ask you a few questions:

Since Allen/Shanahan have taken over:

1) Where are the overpaid, multi-year contracts for mediocre players that were once the norm in this town?

2) How many picks have we given away? If you want to nitpick the Jamal Brown trade, go ahead, but if you were comfortable with Stephon Heyer as your starting right tackle, you're crazy. I'm talking about a fifth round pick for T. J. Ducket stupidity.

3) How much is Anthony Armstrong costing this team? How much is Brandon Banks costing this team?

4) Think hard: wouldn't Cerrato have broken the bank for Vincent Jackson?

5) How much is Ryan Torain costing this team.

6) How many O-lineman did Cerrato and Co. draft in 10 years? Is it 2?

7) How many players on the offensive side of the ball could we get a third round pick or higher for in a trade?

8) Shanahan was wrong for benching McNabb, Galloway was a mistake...maybe releasing Devin Thomas was a mistake.

9) This team is a roster mostly of inexpensive inferior veteran talent. With 5 picks last year, how much turnover could we have in one season.

PATIENCE PEOPLE! SANITY PEOPLE!

Posted by: rickyroge | November 18, 2010 9:01 AM | Report abuse


"Snyder discussed the game briefly in an appearance at the University of Maryland on Wednesday night."

Get this ASS away from my school before his jinx hits our football and basketball team.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 18, 2010 8:50 AM |

hey diesel, jokin around last nite, you know, stop whining. not allowed to comment on snyder anymore though


Posted by: hessone | November 18, 2010 9:02 AM | Report abuse

I praise Dan Snyder for what he is now trying to with HIS TEAM. Remember we are just along for the ride (and paying the fare). It is his train set. So it is in his interest to do what he now is doing with this team. All of the true Redskin fans - fans since the Sonny days or earlier - see this as 'our' team, which it is. Technically though it is Dan's team, and he is trying to make it a winner. I can't afford to go to games since they left RFK Stadium, but I do support the team, and I applaud Dan Snyder for now trying to get it right. As for the native American symbols, I'm good with changing this out. The Redskins have not been good for years, so the losing the name might actually help reset the franchise. My relatives in Tucson though love the Redskins name, and they are part native American themselves. They don't find offense, wear their jerseys at games out there, but certainly others do take offense. So, turn it into a marketing opportunity. Bottom line, it's up to Dan, not us. Trust me, no one's going to boycott the Redskins in large numbers if they change their name.

Posted by: bfjam | November 18, 2010 9:04 AM | Report abuse

What exactly are we walking away with? The option to part ways with him after this season? We already had that option available and didn't have to pay $3.5 mill to get it.


Posted by: p1funk | November 18, 2010 8:33 AM | Report abuse

More importantly is the option to keep him. We have no other option at QB that can help us anytime soon.

Posted by: AllDCSports | November 18, 2010 9:06 AM | Report abuse

p1funk

It's Week 11, and if you haven't noticed the trend, the play is getting worse.


I thought I was the only one who noticed this.

But we can--and should--get a W against a weakened titans team this weekend.

We'll see.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 18, 2010 9:08 AM | Report abuse

I get why McNabb takes the abuse (he's the QB/Leader of the Team)...ok fine but our O-line can't run or pass block to save their lives and our deep threat is almost 40 yrs old and has alligator arms if the ball is thrown to him and a defender is within 5 yrds....the next picks/trades, deals better all be O line..put McNabb behind Eli's line and he's leading the div...

Posted by: mjandrews8 | November 18, 2010 9:10 AM | Report abuse

But we can--and should--get a W against a weakened titans team this weekend.

We'll see.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 18, 2010 9:08 AM | Report abuse


"Can and should" are the two biggest indicators of an impending loss for this team.

Posted by: Original_etrod | November 18, 2010 9:11 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: P00P | November 18, 2010 8:50 AM | Report abuse

Uh oh, he's bbbaaaccckkkk!

Fat_Back yesterday and now P00P today, I think Poopy's making a comeback!!!

Posted by: monk811 | November 18, 2010 8:59 AM | Report abuse

Poopy McPoop is not POOP, FYI...I've been on here longer BUT do not post ever until it's time...only when it's time...

Posted by: P00P | November 18, 2010 9:11 AM | Report abuse

Snyder's tenure as owner with this team is what's most embarrassing.

Posted by: dbunkr | November 18, 2010 9:12 AM | Report abuse

RickyRoge,

Your glass half full thinking is just what Snyder uses to fill the house. The fact is we DID give up draft picks and overpay washed up players AGAIN under Shanny and Allen THIS YEAR.

Trade for McNabb- Has not worked out. We lose two picks he might not be here, certainly we have him before we have a complete 0-line or any receivers or any RB talent. So he leaves or retires when we get a solid line (who does that help?)

Jamaal Brown= Bad trade, more draft picks for damaged goods. Youth for age. Wasteful.

The draft is only half of the equation. What value did we get for Jason Campbell **A starter in Oakland** NOTHING. Allen got jobbed. What value did we get for Haynesworth--NOTHING We could not trade him, we will eventually release him. What value for Devin Thomas--Nothing. Could we have traded Dockery if Shanny and Allen were on the same page that he did not fit the scheme YES! Dockery would start on other teams in this league! The new era is the old era, ineptness.

The move to 3:4 defense is a disaster. Tons of players don't fit the scheme. Andre Carter, Haynesworth, from top 12 defense to last in the league. Tell me where the glass is full--even 1/4 full RickyRoge! If you can convince me, you should go sell luxury boes at Fed Ex!

Posted by: DownTownClown | November 18, 2010 9:15 AM | Report abuse

BUT do not post ever until it's time...only when it's time...

Posted by: P00P | November 18, 2010 9:11 AM | Report abuse

Ahh, got ya! Kinda like pooping, when nature calls!

Posted by: monk811 | November 18, 2010 9:17 AM | Report abuse

But we can--and should--get a W against a weakened titans team this weekend.

We'll see.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 18, 2010 9:08 AM | Report abuse


We "can" get a win, because anything "can" happen.

Not sure how you figure that we "should" get a win.

If guys like Jerome Harrison and Brandon Jackson can gash this team, then I'm a little nervous about seeing what Chris Johnson has for us.

Posted by: p1funk | November 18, 2010 9:18 AM | Report abuse

Ahh, got ya! Kinda like pooping, when nature calls!

Posted by: monk811 | November 18, 2010 9:17 AM | Report abuse

Gotta say...I'm a big fan myself...but I've been a little clogged up since Monday night...something about watching that game really messed w/the tubes...

Posted by: P00P | November 18, 2010 9:20 AM | Report abuse


Posted by: DownTownClown | November 18, 2010 9:15 AM |

nicely worded

don't sweat it downtown, MK12 is our savior in waiting

Posted by: hessone | November 18, 2010 9:21 AM | Report abuse

what does that got to do with seeing if austin can perform better than galloway in game situations ? if he's worse than galloway, he doesn't even belong on the practice squad

Posted by: hessone | November 18, 2010 8:53 AM


Again...if Austin showed himself to be better than Galloway or anyone else on the active roster he'd be, you know, on the active roster. The only time you throw young players on the field just to "see what he's got" instead of because he's genuinely the better player is when your season is over...and ours isn't.

Interesting stuff from JLC on NFL Total Access last night...said that if the D keeps stinking and the team makes a move on Haslett, that Wade Phillips would be the natural replacement. Has a history with Shanahan, knows the NFC East well...I don't know about you all but I would LOVE that pickup.

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 18, 2010 9:22 AM | Report abuse

"Snyder discussed the game briefly in an appearance at the University of Maryland on Wednesday night."

Get this ASS away from my school before his jinx hits our football and basketball team.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 18, 2010 8:50 AM
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UMD? Really? Oh man, I am so very, very sorry. I didn't realize you were blogging with that albatross. You know, when I first scanned that headline, I thought it said, "Snyder embarassed to be speaking at U-Md..."

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 18, 2010 9:23 AM | Report abuse

So pepper you hated the way stuff used to be done and now that they are doing what most teams do they are d-cks, sounds to me like you need a new team to root for.

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 18, 2010 8:57 AM | Report abuse

As I said it is "a step in the right direction." Of course a real fan would recognize that about 500,000 additional steps are required to turn this franchise around. That does not sound like you however. Time to turn in your Jeff George jersey.

Posted by: Pepper5 | November 18, 2010 9:23 AM | Report abuse

some people continue to just absolutely not get the most simple things......wow...I come on here, and read some of these posts, and I think there is no way, that someone can be this stupid...then the VERY next day, that person trumps, thier previous personal best in stupidity...its quite the accomplishment....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 18, 2010 9:26 AM | Report abuse

Ahh, got ya! Kinda like pooping, when nature calls!

Posted by: monk811 | November 18, 2010 9:17 AM | Report abuse

Gotta say...I'm a big fan myself...but I've been a little clogged up since Monday night...something about watching that game really messed w/the tubes...

Posted by: P00P | November 18, 2010 9:20 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, a team putting up 59 points will do that do ya!

It really showed a lot of our weaknesses, or sticking with the poop theme, uncovered our 'turds in the punchbowl'! So many nuggets still have to be flushed or it'll back up our organizational toilet, so to speak!

Posted by: monk811 | November 18, 2010 9:27 AM | Report abuse

brown,

As a D-Cord. Wade has always been good, as a HC not so much.

Not sure Shanny makes a move there yet depends on the rest of the season.

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 18, 2010 9:28 AM | Report abuse


So pepper you hated the way stuff used to be done and now that they are doing what most teams do they are d-cks, sounds to me like you need a new team to root for.

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 18, 2010 8:57 AM | Report abuse

an explaination of what we're doing that other teams are doing is in order here. and before getting slammed as a hater, it has nothing to do with the wording of a contract, rather, the direction this team is going in.

win now or rebuild ?

Posted by: hessone | November 18, 2010 9:29 AM | Report abuse

p1funk

Not sure how you figure that we "should" get a win (against the titans).


Point-taken.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 18, 2010 9:30 AM | Report abuse

As I said it is "a step in the right direction." Of course a real fan would recognize that about 500,000 additional steps are required to turn this franchise around. That does not sound like you however. Time to turn in your Jeff George jersey.

Posted by: Pepper5 | November 18, 2010 9:23 AM |

I know they need to do a lot and I'm willing to let them have time to do it. You are the one up here crying every day not me.

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 18, 2010 9:30 AM | Report abuse

That's what JLC was saying Flound...IF the Skins make a move on Haslett, Wade would be the logical first option. But you're right...dude is a mediocre HC at best, but as a DC he's top shelf. I like to call him the defensive version of Norv...

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 18, 2010 9:31 AM | Report abuse


some people continue to just absolutely not get the most simple things......wow...I come on here, and read some of these posts, and I think there is no way, that someone can be this stupid...then the VERY next day, that person trumps, thier previous personal best in stupidity...its quite the accomplishment....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 18, 2010 9:26 AM |

you shouldn't be so hard on yourself greg

Posted by: hessone | November 18, 2010 9:33 AM | Report abuse

So pepper you hated the way stuff used to be done and now that they are doing what most teams do they are d-cks, sounds to me like you need a new team to root for.

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 18, 2010 8:57 AM | Report abuse

an explaination of what we're doing that other teams are doing is in order here. and before getting slammed as a hater, it has nothing to do with the wording of a contract, rather, the direction this team is going in.

win now or rebuild ?

Posted by: hessone | November 18, 2010 9:29 AM | Report abuse

Yep, the HaterAid is making it's way around the Pessimism Pinto today! All aboard.....

Posted by: monk811 | November 18, 2010 9:33 AM | Report abuse

This loss is not half as embarrasing as Mr. $nyder's stewardship of the Washington Redskins has been.

Posted by: Ve1ostrummer | November 18, 2010 9:35 AM | Report abuse


Yep, the HaterAid is making it's way around the Pessimism Pinto today! All aboard.....

Posted by: monk811 | November 18, 2010 9:33 AM |

just askin'...

Posted by: hessone | November 18, 2010 9:36 AM | Report abuse

Interesting stuff from JLC on NFL Total Access last night...said that if the D keeps stinking and the team makes a move on Haslett, that Wade Phillips would be the natural replacement. Has a history with Shanahan, knows the NFC East well...I don't know about you all but I would LOVE that pickup.

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 18, 2010 9:22 AM
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I would LOVE to vomit over that pickup! Just say no to Sta-Puf, Michelin Man, or whatever he is being called these days - oh yeah, "unemployed" is what he's being called these days...

If Haslett isn't the guy - and the more I see, the less I like - then I would rather they go for some young up and comer to complement junior. Frankly, if you're going 3-4, raiding the coffers of a team that has made the transition from 4-3 recently isn't a bad way to go and I would snatch up Kevin Greene from Green Bay in a New York minute. As the linebackers coach in Green Bay, look what he has done with Clay Matthews. He was always a smart player and I think he is going to be an excellent d-coordinator and head coach some day.

Having said that, as much as I would hate to see it, Shanahan has a lot of loyalty to Slowik and that guy has also been a D-Coordinator for Shanny in the past...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 18, 2010 9:38 AM | Report abuse

As a D-Cord. Wade has always been good, as a HC not so much.

Not sure Shanny makes a move there yet depends on the rest of the season.

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 18, 2010 9:28 AM

Somebody's been reading the posts on RI for too long. Shanahan realizes that a transition from a 4-3 to a 3-4 takes a while and that the personnel he has aren't well suited for either the 4-3 or the 3-4. He's not changing coordinators after one year.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 18, 2010 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Surprise, I'm p!ssed off. Any self-respecting Redskins fan would be.

You all can waste your time analyzing plays and scrutinizing the practice squad roster.

Later.

Posted by: Pepper5 | November 18, 2010 9:39 AM | Report abuse

As I said it is "a step in the right direction." Of course a real fan would recognize that about 500,000 additional steps are required to turn this franchise around. That does not sound like you however. Time to turn in your Jeff George jersey.

Posted by: Pepper5 | November 18, 2010 9:23 AM |

That comment was in regards to the way they structure contracts.

As far as win now or rebuild I don't think you can do either one without the other.

Re-build is great but you can't purge your entire roster you need veterans. We got cheap veterans instead of overpaid ones.

Win now would have meant signing every FA available last offseason, and trading all our picks. They also would not have drafted a o_Linemen #1 if win now was on there mind.

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 18, 2010 9:42 AM | Report abuse

So pepper you hated the way stuff used to be done and now that they are doing what most teams do they are d-cks, sounds to me like you need a new team to root for.

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 18, 2010 8:57 AM

In pecker's case it would be more like a new team to root against.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 18, 2010 9:42 AM | Report abuse

DownTownClown...

I'll be brief:

1) No one wanted Campbell enough to trade for him. He's not the one that got away.

2) Devin Thomas still doesn't play.

3) Why waste a high draft pick on a QB when you have no O-line. You bring in a veteran, fix the Oline then tutor the young guy.

4) I see your point on Jamaal Brown, but the jury is still out. I don't think he was completely healthy enough to start.


For you to compare this regime's moves in a short amount of time to the old one's and describe it as "inept" is not smart. It's more of the "sky is falling" jibba-jabba.

I suppose you want Allen and Shanahan gone??? You want Andrew Luck or Cam Newton??? If we had Devin Thomas, we'd be 6-3 huh???

Posted by: rickyroge | November 18, 2010 9:42 AM | Report abuse

I don't care how slow, inept, or stupid Austin is. Having someone who is breathing, and on the field is better than Galloway. Brown, you're making assumptions that you can't justify. When Shanny + son put Leitchensuck on the field when Dock is there, and better, you can't make assumptions about who is a better player with respect to their playing time. Fit the scheme or not, Dock is better cuz he won't get blown up on every play, yet Leitchensuck is still out there. Therefore talent, or ability on the field is not the dominant factor for who plays or not. As a result, you can't assume that Galloway is the better receiver over Austin, even though one is on the roster and the other is on the practice squad. I'm sure Grossman would be a better receiver than Galloway since when DM5 throws to Galloway, 30% of the time he catches it, and 10% of the time the defender catches the ball. I simply don't care who is behind a receiver like that, Galloway should be metaphorically hung.

Posted by: JesusFreakKaren | November 18, 2010 9:43 AM | Report abuse

I don't care how slow, inept, or stupid Austin is. Having someone who is breathing, and on the field is better than Galloway.

Posted by: JesusFreakKaren | November 18, 2010 9:43 AM

Man, if only the coaches had the insight that JFK brings to it, we'd be 9-0. I think the coaches out there must be blinded by what they see in practice rather than recalling the way that Austin ripped it up against third-stringers in the pre-season.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 18, 2010 9:48 AM | Report abuse

beep, explain why Lichenstieger is starting?? Out of football all of last year, but somehow he's good enough to start here....and regarding Austin, yeah, it would be so hard to duplicate Galloway's contributions thus far...we'll never be able to replace him...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 18, 2010 9:54 AM | Report abuse


Man, if only the coaches had the insight that JFK brings to it, we'd be 9-0. I think the coaches out there must be blinded by what they see in practice rather than recalling the way that Austin ripped it up against third-stringers in the pre-season.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 18, 2010 9:48 AM |

as sharp as a marble

Posted by: hessone | November 18, 2010 9:54 AM | Report abuse

beep, explain why Lichenstieger is starting?? Out of football all of last year, but somehow he's good enough to start here....and regarding Austin, yeah, it would be so hard to duplicate Galloway's contributions thus far...we'll never be able to replace him...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 18, 2010 9:54 AM
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The saying goes, "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger", so by keeping Lichen in the starting lineup Shanahan is either going to have McNabb killed or he is going to make him stronger. This is coaching in the highest degree.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 18, 2010 9:57 AM | Report abuse

RSH, not sure where all the Wade hate comes from...I mean, he kept the Cowpies mediocre for us and almost hand-delivered us our first win of this year. As a Skins fan, I wish they kept him longer...

But again...I don't want any parts of the guy as a HC, but you can't question his track record as a DC. He's one of the best you can get so long as you're not asking him to be the (puzzled) face of your franchise.

Personally, I'd like to see us keep some continuity. Just sayin' what JLC threw out there and that it's hard to do better than Wade as a DC.

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 18, 2010 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Interesting stuff from JLC on NFL Total Access last night...said that if the D keeps stinking and the team makes a move on Haslett, that Wade Phillips would be the natural replacement. Has a history with Shanahan, knows the NFC East well...I don't know about you all but I would LOVE that pickup.

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 18, 2010 9:22 AM

Makes sense. We got Philly's OLD QB, why not get the Cowpies OLD HC, and the Giants OLD RB or WR?

Maybe we can appropriate all the NFC East fans by building a hybrid Cowgleant (COWboys, eaGLEs, giANT) team!

Is Deion still available?

Posted by: Alan4 | November 18, 2010 10:00 AM | Report abuse

Yep, the HaterAid is making it's way around the Pessimism Pinto today! All aboard.....

Posted by: monk811 | November 18, 2010 9:33 AM |

just askin'...

Posted by: hessone | November 18, 2010 9:36 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, coming off an azz-whoopin and losing 2 games in a row will do that to you. Things look bleak now, but they were worse last year and we made it through that nightmare! Everything will be alright! Damn I sound like a motivational speaker!

Posted by: monk811 | November 18, 2010 10:01 AM | Report abuse

beep, explain why Lichenstieger is starting?? Out of football all of last year, but somehow he's good enough to start here....and regarding Austin, yeah, it would be so hard to duplicate Galloway's contributions thus far...we'll never be able to replace him...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 18, 2010 9:54 AM

How about you explaining to me why if Dockery and Austin are all-pros neither one of them can get on the field? What's your theory? Coaches don't know what they're looking at? Bribes? Plot? Racial profiling? Seriously -- why is that you think random bloggers have a better eye for talent than the coaches who see these guys every day?

Posted by: beep-beep | November 18, 2010 10:01 AM | Report abuse

beep, explain why Lichenstieger is starting?? Out of football all of last year, but somehow he's good enough to start here....and regarding Austin, yeah, it would be so hard to duplicate Galloway's contributions thus far...we'll never be able to replace him...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 18, 2010 9:54 AM
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The saying goes, "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger", so by keeping Lichen in the starting lineup Shanahan is either going to have McNabb killed or he is going to make him stronger. This is coaching in the highest degree.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 18, 2010 9:57 AM
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It's funny how things are connected. Maybe keeping Galloway and Williams on the roster is a work of genius but McNabb can never check down to them because he doesn't have the time in the pocket. Why? Because Shanahan made some bad decisions with the offensive linemen, starting with Lichen, but including Rabach.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 18, 2010 10:01 AM | Report abuse

5 Observations:

1. Redskins fans love to yell about a place they call Filthydelphia to middle age men wearing Eagles colors.

2. Male Redskins fans love to cross dress in skirts, wigs, rubber hog-noses and makeup. They also enjoy making gutteral snorting noises.

3. Daniel Snyder wraps his stadium, inside and out, in more advertising than a Geogia Little League outfield fence.

4. By halftime, there were approximately 10,000 fans left and most of them were wearing number 10 Eagles' jerseys.

5. The other 85,000 ticket holders apparently went to their cars, pulled into the worlds largest gridlock and spent the next 3 hours cursing McNabb and the team they "root" for and yelling about a place they call Filthydelphia to middle age men wearing Eagles colors.

Heaven's a very strange place, indeed, but it was a great visit.


Posted by: bossrjc | November 18, 2010 10:03 AM | Report abuse

Interesting stuff from JLC on NFL Total Access last night...said that if the D keeps stinking and the team makes a move on Haslett, that Wade Phillips would be the natural replacement. Has a history with Shanahan, knows the NFC East well...I don't know about you all but I would LOVE that pickup.

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 18, 2010 9:22 AM
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I would LOVE to vomit over that pickup! Just say no to Sta-Puf, Michelin Man, or whatever he is being called these days - oh yeah, "unemployed" is what he's being called these days...

If Haslett isn't the guy - and the more I see, the less I like - then I would rather they go for some young up and comer to complement junior. Frankly, if you're going 3-4, raiding the coffers of a team that has made the transition from 4-3 recently isn't a bad way to go and I would snatch up Kevin Greene from Green Bay in a New York minute. As the linebackers coach in Green Bay, look what he has done with Clay Matthews. He was always a smart player and I think he is going to be an excellent d-coordinator and head coach some day.

Having said that, as much as I would hate to see it, Shanahan has a lot of loyalty to Slowik and that guy has also been a D-Coordinator for Shanny in the past...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 18, 2010 9:38 AM

I see this both sides on this discussion. Dallas has some FA on defense that would help any 3-4 team. They would naturally follow Wade. Plus as mentioned Wade is a solid D coordinator.

Kevin Greene, or even Winston Moss for Green Bay would be bold moves. You'd have to go through growing pains as they gain the proper experience, but Shanny has shown a willingness to make bold moves.

Posted by: TWISI | November 18, 2010 10:04 AM | Report abuse

Greg, you gotta stop fixating on an inept player and then automatically assuming there's a better option. I mean, I think Dock has to at least be serviceable too (instead of inactive every week) but he just doesn't fit the scheme. Hell, I was shocked he even made the team, considering he's the antithesis of what you want in a zone blocking scheme. THAT'S why Lichtensteiger is in there. I know he sucks, you know he sucks...but who else are you gonna play there?

And PLEASE don't list some practice squad slappy...again, guys like that are on the p-squad for a reason. If you think guys with actual playing experience like Lich and Rabach are getting blown up off the line, just imagine how some undrafted slappy would fare...

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 18, 2010 10:06 AM | Report abuse


beep, explain why Lichenstieger is starting?? Out of football all of last year, but somehow he's good enough to start here....and regarding Austin, yeah, it would be so hard to duplicate Galloway's contributions thus far...we'll never be able to replace him...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 18, 2010 9:54 AM

How about you explaining to me why if Dockery and Austin are all-pros neither one of them can get on the field? What's your theory? Coaches don't know what they're looking at? Bribes? Plot? Racial profiling? Seriously -- why is that you think random bloggers have a better eye for talent than the coaches who see these guys every day?

Posted by: beep-beep | November 18, 2010 10:01 AM
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Take Dockery out of the equation. Look at it purely from the standpoint of, "Is Lichtensteiger getting it done?" Is he? Okay, he's not. We Redskins fans have been the beneficiaries of some pretty decent line play over the years and we know a lemon when we see one. So, why is the head coach at the podium saying the guy is playing pretty well? Whoa. Talk about denial. Let's just say Dockery isn't the answer, either. Why isn't the GM kicking the tires of a few other offensive linemen out there? Why isn't the team experimenting with moving Capers or Robinson inside? Why isn't the team looking at some other option to keep their quarterback from being killed?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 18, 2010 10:08 AM | Report abuse

At one point,he asked Snyder whether the owner is less hands-on than he was six years ago.

"Joe Gibbs was here six years ago, so the answer is no," Snyder said. "In fact, there's a lot similar between Mike Shanahan and Joe Gibbs. We have hall of fame coaches who do their thing..."


THIS is the problem. Snyder only respects HOF or SB winning coaches.

Any new coach, like Jim Zorn, is set up for failure because Snyder doesn't trust them.

Remember.... Vinny was fired before by Marty.

If things don't work out with Shanny, and a new coach comes in--maybe even little Shanny--what are the odds Vinny comes back in some capacity too?

If Snyder's going to bother to hire a HC, he shouldn't ONLY treat the HOF and SB winners with professional respect.

Posted by: Alan4 | November 18, 2010 10:10 AM | Report abuse

Remember.... Vinny was fired before by Marty.

If things don't work out with Shanny, and a new coach comes in--maybe even little Shanny--what are the odds Vinny comes back in some capacity too?

If Snyder's going to bother to hire a HC, he shouldn't ONLY treat the HOF and SB winners with professional respect.


Posted by: Alan4 | November 18, 2010 10:10 AM |

Vinny was fired by Marty something Snyder didn't want at that time.

Vinny was fired by Snyder this time so no Vinny is not coming back.

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 18, 2010 10:13 AM | Report abuse

In pecker's case it would be more like a new team to root against.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 18, 2010 9:42 AM | Report abuse

Leave it to creep-creep to get all bent over looking for a silver lining after that outrageous butt whuppin' by Michael Sick and the filthy eeels.

Posted by: Pepper5 | November 18, 2010 10:13 AM | Report abuse

brown, if something is not working, do you keep doing the same thing over, and over, and over expecting different results...this offense is inept, but you don't think removing Galloway and putting someone else in there will help?? Dock fit the scheme for the first 4 weeks, but now can't get active?? Really??

beep, no one said they're all pro's, however we've seen what dock can do, and we've seen what kory can do, and kory can't do much, he's almost as big a speed bump as Rabach...again, why NOT make a change...whats the worst that can happen, the offense sucks?? It already does...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 18, 2010 10:14 AM | Report abuse

brown, if something is not working, do you keep doing the same thing over, and over, and over expecting different results...this offense is inept, but you don't think removing Galloway and putting someone else in there will help?? Dock fit the scheme for the first 4 weeks, but now can't get active?? Really??

beep, no one said they're all pro's, however we've seen what dock can do, and we've seen what kory can do, and kory can't do much, he's almost as big a speed bump as Rabach...again, why NOT make a change...whats the worst that can happen, the offense sucks?? It already does...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 18, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse

Why isn't the GM kicking the tires of a few other offensive linemen out there? Why isn't the team experimenting with moving Capers or Robinson inside? Why isn't the team looking at some other option to keep their quarterback from being killed?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 18, 2010 10:08 AM

And how do you know that he's not doing all of these things but that none of them is a better option than what he has on the field already?

Unbelievable. He's the one who's accountable for the team's success. He's been in professional football for 26 years. But you think he hasn't looked at all the option on his roster or available in free agency? You don't think he's looked at other teams' practice squads for a possible upgrade?

Why? Why do you think this? Because he hasn't told Jason Reid "We're really weak at LG, but we're looking at all available options to upgrade."?

Posted by: beep-beep | November 18, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse

If Snyder's going to bother to hire a HC, he shouldn't ONLY treat the HOF and SB winners with professional respect.


Posted by: Alan4

Snyder respects winners like everyone else. He gave both Spurrier and Zorn a chance, and neither coach had rings. They stunck up the joint and got fired (or resigned before being fired). Don't see the issue here.

Posted by: swowra | November 18, 2010 10:17 AM | Report abuse

We will not beat the Titans on Sunday. It is going to be ugly as well. CJ will most likely have over 150 yds and 1-2 TD's. Prepare yourselves so your not upset come 4pm EST on Sunday....I am going to need to attach handle bars to the toilet so I don't rocket boost off of it.

Posted by: P00P | November 18, 2010 10:17 AM | Report abuse

Vinny was fired by Marty something Snyder didn't want at that time.

Vinny was fired by Snyder this time so no Vinny is not coming back.

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 18, 2010 10:13 AM

I agree with the logic of what you're saying. But my larger point stands: Snyder is hands off with Big Name coaches, and sabotages no-name coaches.

He will have a difficult time finding the next Joe Gibbs or Sean Payton that way.

Posted by: Alan4 | November 18, 2010 10:17 AM | Report abuse

Wow....Just Wow....

I NEVER knew MAury's father was Shirley Povich.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 18, 2010 10:18 AM | Report abuse

as sharp as a marble

Posted by: hessone | November 18, 2010 9:54 AM

As significant as belly button lint. Boycott $nyder!

Posted by: beep-beep | November 18, 2010 10:20 AM | Report abuse

3) Why waste a high draft pick on a QB when you have no O-line. You bring in a veteran, fix the Oline then tutor the young guy.


Posted by: rickyroge | November 18, 2010 9:42 AM | Report abuse


BTW, you realize we "wasted" 2 draft picks on a QB when we had no Oline.

Only that QB isn't going to be around when that Oline finall gets good (if ever).

Posted by: p1funk | November 18, 2010 10:21 AM | Report abuse


If you think guys with actual playing experience like Lich and Rabach are getting blown up off the line, just imagine how some undrafted slappy would fare...

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 18, 2010 10:06 AM |


don't know, haven't seen them play in a game, but we get your point

Posted by: hessone | November 18, 2010 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Snyder respects winners like everyone else. He gave both Spurrier and Zorn a chance, and neither coach had rings. They stunck up the joint and got fired (or resigned before being fired). Don't see the issue here.

Posted by: swowra | November 18, 2010 10:17 AM

Spurrier was a Big Name, but didn't have the heart for the NFL job.

With Zorn, you had players sniping about the OWNER playing favorites, and you had Vinny putting the team together.

I'd say that's interference.

Posted by: Alan4 | November 18, 2010 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Not bad enough to issue a refund to season ticket holders for the game, eh?

Not bad enough to get an OLINE that can block, eh?

How bad Danny? How bad do you really feel?

Posted by: kahlua87 | November 18, 2010 10:23 AM | Report abuse


brown, if something is not working, do you keep doing the same thing over, and over, and over expecting different results...this offense is inept, but you don't think removing Galloway and putting someone else in there will help?? Dock fit the scheme for the first 4 weeks, but now can't get active?? Really??

beep, no one said they're all pro's, however we've seen what dock can do, and we've seen what kory can do, and kory can't do much, he's almost as big a speed bump as Rabach...again, why NOT make a change...whats the worst that can happen, the offense sucks?? It already does...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 18, 2010 10:14 AM |

but greg, we're still in the playoff picture

Posted by: hessone | November 18, 2010 10:26 AM | Report abuse

Hey guys, I have a website now. Its a Redskins/nfl blog. Please take a look!!!

Roccoskins.com

I promise to be better then J Reid.

Posted by: roccoskins | November 18, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

brown, if something is not working, do you keep doing the same thing over, and over, and over expecting different results...this offense is inept, but you don't think removing Galloway and putting someone else in there will help?? Dock fit the scheme for the first 4 weeks, but now can't get active?? Really??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 18, 2010 10:14 AM


First of all, Dock never "fit the scheme"...they played him because they didn't have much choice. I have no idea what changed, other than Dock simply isn't physically capable of being a productive player in the zone blocking scheme.

So if the choice is a guy who physically CAN'T do it vs. a guy that has the physical ability to do it but needs work from a technique standpoint, you go with the latter. It's really not that difficult a concept...

That said, I don't think Shanahan is "doing the same thing over, and over, and over expecting different results" so much as he's working with what he's got. As bad as Lich is, he's not worse than a practice squad guy and he's probably no better than anything out there on the FA market. The guy was brought here to be a backup and we have to view him as such. Hopefully, we'll get an upgrade in the offseason but for now we've got what we've got. Throwing a p-squad guy out there or jamming a square peg into a round hole isn't gonna make things better...probably makes it worse...

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 18, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse

agree to disagree brown...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 18, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

I promise to be better then J Reid.

Posted by: roccoskins | November 18, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

That's not saying much!

That's like saying Rod Gardner promises to be better than Desmond Howard!

I'm not saying you won't be better than him, but it doesn't take much!

Posted by: monk811 | November 18, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

I promise to be better then J Reid.

Posted by: roccoskins | November 18, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

That's not saying much!

That's like saying Rod Gardner promises to be better than Desmond Howard!

I'm not saying you won't be better than him, but it doesn't take much!

Posted by: monk811 | November 18, 2010 10:37 AM

I'm not going if hess doesn't.

Posted by: PlayAction | November 18, 2010 10:39 AM | Report abuse

First of all, Dock never "fit the scheme"...they played him because they didn't have much choice. I have no idea what changed, other than Dock simply isn't physically capable of being a productive player in the zone blocking scheme.

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 18, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse


And Lich is not physically capable of blocking in pass pro. It's not a technique thing. He's too weak. He got destroyed in the Lions game, and Trent Cole kept blowing by him and Rabach on stunts in the Eagles game.

Posted by: p1funk | November 18, 2010 10:39 AM | Report abuse

jive ass beeps

Posted by: PlayAction | November 18, 2010 10:40 AM | Report abuse


as sharp as a marble

Posted by: hessone | November 18, 2010 9:54 AM

As significant as belly button lint. Boycott $nyder!

Posted by: beep-beep | November 18, 2010 10:20 AM |

as significant as watching ameoba in heat.

please fund snyder !


Posted by: hessone | November 18, 2010 10:41 AM | Report abuse

It's pretty obvious that a lot of people here at RI would make better Head Coaches and General Managers than what we have now. These guys can evaluate offensive lineman without going to a practice or looking at game film or knowing the blocking assignments. Plus it's pretty obvious to them that there are a number of all-pro wide receivers floating around, including some of those that we got rid of. It's pretty obvious that Shanahan doesn't know anything about talent and certainly his son was only hired because of his name.

Give me a break....

Posted by: Jurgensen9 | November 18, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse


I promise to be better then J Reid.

Posted by: roccoskins | November 18, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

That's not saying much!

That's like saying Rod Gardner promises to be better than Desmond Howard!

I'm not saying you won't be better than him, but it doesn't take much!

Posted by: monk811 | November 18, 2010 10:37 AM

I'm not going if hess doesn't.

Posted by: PlayAction | November 18, 2010 10:39 AM |

I've been there. give rocco a break and visit his blog, he's a 17 yr old dude with the motivation to start his own blog. good luck rocco. these guys will rip anyone over anything so don't pay much attention to them.

FUND SNYDER-FUND SNYDER-FUND SNYDER

Posted by: hessone | November 18, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse

jive ass beeps

Posted by: PlayAction | November 18, 2010 10:40 AM

Whoops...meant dive ass beeps

Posted by: PlayAction | November 18, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse

I'm not always a fan of Sally Jenkins, but she is spot on with today's column. We've got a lot of issues on the offensive side of the ball, but some better play, just average play, from number 5 would solve a number of problems. His accuracy, obviously, has to improve. And the decision making is not up to the standard of a veteran of his stature. The defense is always going to be able to send more guys than the offense can block. That is football. In today's NFL, all QBs are getting rushed... even Manning and Brady... but that leaves the defense vulnerable in another area. QBs that can read a defense and know where all of your receivers are kill the gambling defenses. It's not always the receivers fault or the OLines fault.

Posted by: Jurgensen9 | November 18, 2010 10:58 AM | Report abuse

"the good thing for us is we get to play next Sunday"...that is code for, "the good thing for me is we play another game and I make more money".

Snyder hasn't a clue how to own a ball club. His comments are lame and disingenuous! You know I think of the Dallas Cowboys and their owner and often wonder who is better...Snyder or Jones? Well I am going to say Jones and it isn't even close. At the very least Jerry Jones talks to the media and takes question and is accountable. Snyder does none of those things. His appology falls flat for me. I don't want to hear sorry's!!! I want Snyder to tell us Fans what he is going to do about it...oh but wait...he wouldn't know what to do any damn way!

Posted by: ekbinion68 | November 18, 2010 11:07 AM | Report abuse

the only thing more embarrassing than the skins is the way snyder runs the team. what a loooooooser!

Posted by: BRIANSWARTZ | November 18, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Someone may have already posted this link, but great article in the citypaper about what a weasel Danny is.

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/articles/40063/the-cranky-redskins-fans-guide-to-dan-snyder

Posted by: curiousinva | November 18, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

"And occasionally that's going to happen."

ARE YOU F*ING KIDDING ME? YOU ARE A JOKE DAN SNYDER.

Posted by: shepkillion

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If you're a fan of football and sports in general, you should know Snyder's comment is truth, plain and simple. Aberrations such as Monday night's debacle do happen each and every season. They are fluke games. Does it hurt? You bet. But they do happen regardless.

Posted by: jsh79 | November 18, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

I may be in the minority here but I really don't think McNabb got shafted with his deal. He had $3.5M immediate cash on hand just for signing and you can bet he'll be playing for someone next year and getting paid handsomely for it. No matter if it's the Skins or some other team. We're talking about a 12 year veteran at QB. Not everyone has Brett Favre-like status late in their career. But McNabb will be playing next year to the tune of about $15M. He'll take it and do his best.

Posted by: BenThere | November 18, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Danny Boy, I got news for you...most Redskins fans long ago found your ownership to be "embarrasing".

Actually, "embarrasing" doesn't begin to describe it...

Posted by: Gladiator2008 | November 18, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Loss to Eagles embarrassing, yes. And a loss of revenue for Danny, all those empty seats at the end of the first quarter. Not too many $12 beer sales going there.

Posted by: 44fx2901 | November 18, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone really care what Dan "Moneybags" Snyder says about anything at this point? He is the worst owner in professional sports hands down. He has turned a once proud franchise into a national joke.

Posted by: jmarks09 | November 18, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Another disappointing season. Haynesworth and Portis must go. Dump 'em now. The team cannot afford such dead weight. Totally non productive athletes.

Posted by: droffman2 | November 18, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Snyder is embarrassed? He should be. Thie is his franchise and he is directly responsible for the sorry product on the field.

I think he may have it right with Shanahan and Allen, but only if they can be patient and build through the draft. If Allen/Shanahan think they can build like George Allen, they will fail. We need lineman on both sides of the ball, and should take the best one available on either side. It doesn't do any good to draft skill players when you have not line. Ask Dallas.

GAMES ARE WON/LOST IN THE TRENCHES. DO YOU THINK MARK RYPIEN AND TIMMY SMITH WERE ALL WORLD PLAYERS OR WERE ON AN OFFENSE WITH THE BEST OLINE EVER THAT MADE EVEN THEM LOOK GOOD.

Posted by: sruppert | November 18, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

What do you call it after we lose by 30 again on sunday?

Posted by: thomasuras | November 18, 2010 10:16 PM | Report abuse

What do you call it after we lose by 30 again on sunday?

Posted by: thomasuras | November 18, 2010 10:18 PM | Report abuse

"And occasionally that's going to happen."

Not that occasionally becuase the skins set all kinds of records

Posted by: thomasuras | November 18, 2010 10:21 PM | Report abuse

Whats embarrassing is UMD would allow this clown to appear at the University.

Now that is embarrassing!!

Posted by: Jaymand | November 18, 2010 10:37 PM | Report abuse

Change that racist name, call them Moon Crickets if you think the color of one's skin is honorable and get Bob Marley off the logo! You will have Al Sharpton on your doorstep ten deep with signs and a megaphone at sunrise. It's 2010 you O'bama loving weasel, just make the change. St. Johns, Syracuse, H.S. programs do it and they are all the same..Warriors,pick a tribe to honor, but using skin color with a lame excuse to support it is against everything this PC flea circus stands for.

Posted by: doyouktt | November 19, 2010 7:20 AM | Report abuse

Suckers!
Stop complaining you will be out there at Fedex spending with this GREEDY *&^%$!

I'm almost at the point where sports will be secondary. Too much money involve wich has change the way sports are played.
Baseball still don't know where the strike zone will be called.
Basketball questioning calls made by officials.
Football, Pro and College are so corrupt it's not funny anymore.

How Snyder got the team from Milstein.
Due to the other crooked Owners!
Seriously, they had to make up a rule for black coaches to interview for Head Coach job. Why? When the league is majority Black!
Were not going to get into ownership!

Colleges are kiddie pimps. "We provide them with an Education" How when most never finish school or some a#$ coach takes away there scholarship. While the schools make Millions.

Posted by: shamken | November 19, 2010 8:42 AM | Report abuse

Please change the nickname, REDSKINS IS RACIST!!!

Posted by: MrWillie | November 19, 2010 10:03 AM | Report abuse

Haynesworth is a bum, a freakin bum. How can you take a $20 million check and do nothing. Dan Snyder needs to layoff the team and let his football people run it.
He knows absolutely nothing about football. I don't care how much money he has. Is this the Napolean complex?

Posted by: seisen1 | November 19, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Haynesworth is a bum, a freakin bum. How can you take a $20 million check and do nothing. Dan Snyder needs to layoff the team and let his football people run it.
He knows absolutely nothing about football. I don't care how much money he has. Is this the Napolean complex?

Posted by: seisen1 | November 19, 2010 10:57 AM | Report abuse

RedSkinHead wrote:

I don't hate him at all. He's been just what he said he was, "A businessman who had the good fortune to buy the team he has rooted for his entire life". There's not a person on this board who, if in similar circumstances, wouldn't have meddled with the operation to some extent. Maybe some would have learned earlier than Snyder that they didn't know as much about football as they thought they did, but they all would have done it.
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You’re sort of right. Certainly anyone on this board would purchase the Redskins, or the team of their dreams if given the chance. And yeah, we’d tinker. But what everyone on this board wouldn’t do is become so blind and arrogant as not to see that our efforts have failed for over a decade and in the process desecrate a legacy that other men built. The same would be said if we took over a potato chip empire.

Like Snyder, Jack Kent Cooke was a businessman except that he was smart enough to recognize he wasn’t a football man. So he left it to men who were. And we all know how that worked out.

Posted by: katedog | November 19, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse

HEADLINE: Daniel Snyder calls loss 'embarrassing'

SHOULD READ: Fans call owner 'embarrassing'

Interesting stat: In every year since 1998, the Redskins have failed to win more games than the Hokies. (And the Redskins play 16 games a year!) Want to watch a fun game? Tune in to Virginia Tech.

signed, Lifelong 'Skins fan.

Posted by: dcnationals1 | November 19, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

I'll take two or three Mr Snyder, and even-though we're impatient, please do it RIGHT!!! Draft-draft-draft!!! HF

Posted by: herbertfoley7 | November 19, 2010 6:44 PM | Report abuse

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