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Davis talks about changes at Redskins Park

Redskins tight end Fred Davis talks about how he's changed as he enters what will be his third year as a pro, the arrival of Mike Shanahan and what, exactly, is going on with Pete Carroll, Lane Kiffin and USC. Davis is joined by Ivan Carter, Kelli Johnson and Mark Maske on Comcast's "Washington Post Live."


By Cindy Boren  |  January 15, 2010; 7:43 AM ET
 
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FIRST to say Lane Kiffin sucks.

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 15, 2010 7:59 AM | Report abuse

He can open up shop as a hired gun to help teams circumvent The Rooney Rule. Extra cash on top of Danny's 2010 money and he gets that all soooo important interviewing experience. Hmmm.. pretty, pretty good.

better hurry before Jerry Gray corners the market on this idea.

Posted by: TheDubb | January 15, 2010 7:28 AM


People making this argument don't get it...

A few years ago, Jerry Gray was a serious HC candidate. The Redskins weren't his first interview for a job. Let's not make it sound like they picked some random slappie assistant like Stan Hixon to inverview. They picked a legit coaching candidate.

That said, we all know this was Shanny's job the minute he got canned by Denver. So nobody else (black, white, or otherwise) was getting this gig. I think the Rooney Rule has served its purpose and needs to either be modified or done away with altogether.

So let's not make it sound like the Redskins are racist or something. They want who they want and they should be able to hire that person. If it were Dungy instead of Shanny, this wouldn't even be an issue.

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 15, 2010 8:00 AM | Report abuse

Red,

Here's some of the heinous footage of Megan Fox's thumb:

http://photos.tmz.com/galleries/megan_foxs_thumb#tab=most_recent&id=44269

She goes from a 10 to a 7.5 thanks to that fugly finger...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 15, 2010 8:08 AM | Report abuse

Brown is right. The Rooney rule sounds good in theory, but horrible in practice. Owners should look at minority candidates for jobs but they should not be forced down their throats. You cannot force these guys to hire anybody they dont want to, nor should they. What is resulting is patronizing interviews just to follow a rule. The Rooney rule should be abolished. The only good coming from it, is that minority candidates are receiving "head coaching interview experience" which is a joke. In 2010 if someone doesnt want to hire the best man for the job because of race,it is on them and their fans should hold them accountable.

Posted by: KingJoffeJoffer | January 15, 2010 8:12 AM | Report abuse

FIRST to say Lane Kiffin sucks.

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 15, 2010 7:59 AM | Report abuse
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This is no contest. You were soundly beaten to the punch by Al Davis. Ouch, man!

Posted by: mattsoundworld | January 15, 2010 8:19 AM | Report abuse

JREID not all of us can watch/listen to streaming media during the day. How bout writing some key points at least, like (good writer) Dan Steinberg does?

Posted by: REXskins | January 15, 2010 8:22 AM | Report abuse

brown, megan is a beautiful woman...to think anything less of her because of a thumb...come on man....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 15, 2010 8:24 AM | Report abuse

I know everyone has their place in the Jason Campbell debate. You can't win that argument with statistics because you can lie with statistics just as easily as you can with words (i.e.; global warming).

I do know what I see though:

Campbell is not accurate. The miss on the hail mary on the end of the season might have been the cherry on top of the inaccuracy sundae, but there have been many times this season when the ball wasn't even close. How many deep passes were thrown short? One of those interceptions of a Fred Davis tip was because JC threw the ball behind him on a short crossing route. The first half of the Tampa Bay game was about as noodly as Campbell's arm could get and that resulted in three interceptions.

Campbell doesn't play smart. I still have nightmares about him throwing the ball four yards past scrimmage in that NYG game. I can also remember at least three intentional grounding calls that were just stupid. Let's not forget that the ability to audible was taken away from JC because he audibled a run play right into a blitz.

Campbell doesn't have pocket awareness. Remember that NYG game where JC stepped back out of the pocket and the ball was slapped out of his hand and returned for a touchdown? JC had 13 fumbles this year and try to think back as to how many of them came from the ball being slapped away because Campbell didn't know the defender was coming, and Campbell has great scrambling ability, but it seems he rarely sees the opportunity to use his legs to get out of situations in the backfield.

Jason Campbell is not a vocal leader. Some may say he leads by example, but come on, the QB is the one guy on the field whose voice must be heard. Think of all the great quarterbacks and tell me one that was a "huddle whisperer". Not a one. CP called him out. Airing it out in the media wasn't the right thing to do, but it was accurate.

Campbell's deficiencies do not make him the worse QB out there. He is serviceable. On a team with a conservative offense and aggressive defense, he could be successful. I just don't think of conservative and offense being in the same sentence when talking about Shanahan's offense. The Redskins should tender Campbell an offer, or if no CBA, I think they don't even have to do that. They should sign and trade him. Get something for the pick you used on him, or keep him to run an interim offense. Campbell is not the guy to get the this team with this coach to the Superbowl. He might be a good caretaker for a year as the players absorb the offense and the team ramps up to grab a star QB in next year's draft.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 15, 2010 8:26 AM | Report abuse

regardless of her thumbs, m. fox is NOT hot...yeah i said it!

Posted by: chrislarry | January 15, 2010 8:27 AM | Report abuse

brown, megan is a beautiful woman...to think anything less of her because of a thumb...come on man....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1

You can't tell me that thumb wouldn't freak you out if she was about to touch you with it. I'm with brown, just thinking about it knocks her down a peg. There are plenty of phine women that don't have the devils fifth digit.

Posted by: REXskins | January 15, 2010 8:29 AM | Report abuse

I have been thinking about who might be a candidate for the OL coach position that might be flying under the radar. I came across Aaron Kromer the Saints OL coach the past two years. He was the OL coach in Tampa (Lil Shanny was there too) and Oakland while BA was the GM. We shall see.

Posted by: TWISI | January 15, 2010 8:31 AM | Report abuse

Thumbs?!?

We're talking about thumbs???

You kidding me?

Thumbs??!

Posted by: farstriker | January 15, 2010 8:33 AM | Report abuse

RedSkinHead, not to get off topic here, but the politicization of science is setting us back two hundred years. You may choose to ignore the vast majority of the scientific community just because your political leaders have their own "trusted sources", but I side with the people who actually do the work.

In an unrelated note, did you hear cigarettes are good for you? New finding by scientific studies funded by cigarette companies!!

Posted by: REXskins | January 15, 2010 8:34 AM | Report abuse

I have been thinking about who might be a candidate for the OL coach position that might be flying under the radar. I came across Aaron Kromer the Saints OL coach the past two years. He was the OL coach in Tampa (Lil Shanny was there too) and Oakland while BA was the GM. We shall see.

Posted by: TWISI | January 15, 2010 8:31 AM
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Yep, he'd be a good one. He has done a great job with NO.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 15, 2010 8:34 AM | Report abuse

"There are plenty of phine women that don't have the devils fifth digit."



Agreed.

And as for me, I'm on the lookout for a woman with an extra mouth...

...and a female friend with an open mind.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 15, 2010 8:34 AM | Report abuse

Hey, I don't know man... Honey's thumb is kind of flicted.

If she's a 10, which I think may be debatable, then she may drop to a solid 9, 8.5.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 15, 2010 8:36 AM | Report abuse

brown, megan is a beautiful woman...to think anything less of her because of a thumb...come on man....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1

You can't tell me that thumb wouldn't freak you out if she was about to touch you with it. I'm with brown, just thinking about it knocks her down a peg. There are plenty of phine women that don't have the devils fifth digit.

Posted by: REXskins | January 15, 2010 8:29 AM


LOL @ Rex!

Greg, in the last thread I said that I have this sort of preoccupation with a woman's hands. She could be smokin' hot, but if she bites her nails to the quick or has a hammer thumb like Megan Fox it's a no-go. She falls way down the power rankings, in my book. I have no idea why I feel that way, just one of my idiosyncracies I guess.

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 15, 2010 8:39 AM | Report abuse

RedSkinHead, not to get off topic here, but the politicization of science is setting us back two hundred years. You may choose to ignore the vast majority of the scientific community just because your political leaders have their own "trusted sources", but I side with the people who actually do the work.

In an unrelated note, did you hear cigarettes are good for you? New finding by scientific studies funded by cigarette companies!!

Posted by: REXskins | January 15, 2010 8:34 AM
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Look, I really don't want to get in a debate about global warming on this site, but let me ask you this: have there been periods in the Earth's history where the average temperature was actually higher than what they predict it will be in a hundred years? Based on that fact, how can you draw any conclusion that the most recent change had anything to do with man? To use your own stupid statement in context, I just heard that 9 out of ten people who use cosmetics and smoke end up with lung cancer, therefore it must be the combination of the two that give lung cancer. And do me a favor, the next time you want to start a battle of wits, come to the fight better armed.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 15, 2010 8:40 AM | Report abuse

She could have the most beautiful thumbs in the history of primates and Transformers 2 still would've sucked.

Posted by: Original_etrod | January 15, 2010 8:42 AM | Report abuse

What is resulting is patronizing interviews just to follow a rule... The only good coming from it, is that minority candidates are receiving "head coaching interview experience" which is a joke.

Posted by: KingJoffeJoffer | January 15, 2010 8:12 AM | Report abuse
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To anyone who disputes this, I ask: 'Is Jerry Gray better for this process'? No, he is not.

The point of the rule is to get people to consider alternate candidates, and Jerry Gray would likely never be considered for HC without the rule. But there is good and bad with that. Sure, the spotlight shines on a black man, but then again, the spotlight shines on a man because he's black. Not right.

Turns out, his post interview bumbling showed that he is probably not ready to be a head coach. But then again, the Redskins probably already knew that, since now they don't even want him to be their DC. If they REALLY liked this guy and wanted him to progress, they would have found a way to keep him in the organization.

Instead, he's shown the door and his career will probably never go anywhere.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | January 15, 2010 8:44 AM | Report abuse

from wire sources,

"The New York Giants, Washington, Atlanta, Carolina, Tampa Bay, Chicago, Detroit, Seattle, St. Louis, Miami, Buffalo, Jacksonville, Cincinnati, Kansas City and Pittsburgh had no All-Pros this season."

So who might be our candidates for '10?

Brian Orakpo?

Sure

London Fletcher?

In what might be his last season as a redskin? Doubt it.

Albert Haynesworth?

Sure, if a nap, time out, and a snack is involved.

Carlos Rogers?

The All Pro opportunity is one that he dropped a long time ago.

Jason Campbell?

When he gets up off his back, he'll get hit, and be off the mark and miss the selection.

Mike Shanahan, Coach of the Year?

If he can turn this redskin thing around, sure.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 15, 2010 8:45 AM | Report abuse

Megan Fox's thumb debate > Global Warming debate

Even if the icecaps melt and we've gone the way of searching for dryland, women will still be here -- even those with stubby thumbs.

And you can bet that dudes will still be superficial when it comes to women.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 15, 2010 8:48 AM | Report abuse

Maybe she can get corrective surgery on them thangs. I dont care if she has elephantitis of the thumbs or not, I'd eat a mile her her s#$% to l!ck her a$$%@!*

Chris Larry, crack kills dude. It destroys lives! I said it! What?!

Posted by: VaBeachBlitz | January 15, 2010 8:48 AM | Report abuse

And as for me, I'm on the lookout for a woman with an extra mouth...

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 15, 2010 8:34 AM | Report abuse
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That might not turn out the way you think it will. Even if she finds a way to put that second mouth to use for your pleasure (which Im still a little puzzled about - quality over quantity here?), it will still be attached to her desire to talk to you about her feelings.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | January 15, 2010 8:52 AM | Report abuse

Megan Fox's thumb debate > Global Warming debate

Even if the icecaps melt and we've gone the way of searching for dryland, women will still be here -- even those with stubby thumbs.

And you can bet that dudes will still be superficial when it comes to women.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 15, 2010 8:48 AM
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Ain't that the truth? These guys talk like they have the standing to be picky, when in reality not a one of them would turn down something half as sweet as Megan Fox.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 15, 2010 8:53 AM | Report abuse

Instead, he's shown the door and his career will probably never go anywhere.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | January 15, 2010 8:44 AM | Report abuse

Dude, Ive heard Gray talk in interviews. I would not hire this guy to be my HC. DC maybe. But the Rooney Rule is becoming a joke for sure. Maybe we should just let the balance of nature work things out instead of trying to force owners to consider minority candidates. You see how it turns out despite good intentions. If an owner in 2010 won't hire a good coach for skins color reasons, that owner doesn't want to win.

Posted by: VaBeachBlitz | January 15, 2010 8:55 AM | Report abuse

i like this version of red, much better..not so bi-polar-ish...more like the bama we've come to know....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 15, 2010 8:57 AM | Report abuse

"Even if she finds a way to put that second mouth to use for your pleasure, it will still be attached to her desire to talk to you about her feelings."

This is sexist.

And demeaning.

Which is why it's so funny.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 15, 2010 8:57 AM | Report abuse

That might not turn out the way you think it will. Even if she finds a way to put that second mouth to use for your pleasure (which Im still a little puzzled about - quality over quantity here?), it will still be attached to her desire to talk to you about her feelings.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | January 15, 2010 8:52 AM | Report abuse

Yeah. Backfire totally. There are plenty of creative things to do while naked, but when your not banging it out, she could be complaining about 2 things at once... mother of god... the dreaded flip side of the coin...

Posted by: VaBeachBlitz | January 15, 2010 8:58 AM | Report abuse

RedSkinHead, What makes you think that even if the earth was in a warming cycle, humans might not also be having an acceleration effect? They aren't mutually exclusive conditions.

Posted by: REXskins | January 15, 2010 8:59 AM | Report abuse

brownwood,

Where exactly do you want her to put that thumb, that you are so worried about what it looks like.

Never mind, I think I know the answer... with a name like brownwood :P

Posted by: Sports_Guru | January 15, 2010 9:02 AM | Report abuse

bean, I've come to accept the fact that I am the "black Rush Limbaugh" of RI.

Better him than Pat Robertson.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 15, 2010 9:02 AM | Report abuse

The Rooney Rule is a good thing, as shown by the Mike Tomlin hire to the Steelers, but I agree that there are definitely cases (like the Redskins) where it just becomes a mockery of process. Here’s a question though….did the colts have to interview anyone else (non-“minority”) besides Jim Caldwell when he replaced Dungy? Same situation in Seattle where Mora jr was already on staff but was brought on with all intentions of eventually replacing Holmgren, but Seattle had to “interview” a minority candidate before naming Mora the HC……I don’t know the facts, but nobody seemed to care that they just named Caldwell Dungy’s successor without interviewing anyone else. If Seattle did the same thing there would have been penalties to pay.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | January 15, 2010 9:04 AM | Report abuse

Well played, S_G.

I just like a guy like boobs or booty, I like a woman's hands. So it's not about where her thumb is going so much as how it looks.

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 15, 2010 9:04 AM | Report abuse

lmao @ etrod.

And on the thumbs debate, may I direct everyone to the 'man-hands' Seinfeld episode? lol.

Global Warming questions? Please review WarwickHughes.com specifically: http://www.warwickhughes.com/hoyt/climate-change.htm

rok rok AUN!

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 15, 2010 9:04 AM | Report abuse

bean, I've come to accept the fact that I am a major bama....

fixed it for ya...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 15, 2010 9:05 AM | Report abuse

Even if the icecaps melt and we've gone the way of searching for dryland, women will still be here -- even those with stubby thumbs.

Posted by: RedDMV
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Also Bonus! It will be hotter and girls will be wearing less clothes. That's why we love summer.

Posted by: REXskins | January 15, 2010 9:05 AM | Report abuse

bean, I've come to accept the fact that I am the "black Rush Limbaugh" of RI.

Better him than Pat Robertson.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 15, 2010 9:02 AM | Report abuse
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Only on certain days. Like yesterday. Henceforth immortalized in RI lore as Racist Red Thursday. It was epic.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | January 15, 2010 9:06 AM | Report abuse

Where exactly do you want her to put that thumb, that you are so worried about what it looks like.

Posted by: Sports_Guru


With a comment like that I guess you never had a bj or handy -- assuming you are a dude.

Even when you're just plain ol' "doing the do" hands and fingers are all over the place.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 15, 2010 9:08 AM | Report abuse

"Dude, Ive heard Gray talk in interviews. I would not hire this guy to be my HC..."

I get where folks are about Jerry Gray, but let's not forget he was a stellar pro cornerback on the rams teams featuring E Dickerson and Henry Ellard.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 15, 2010 9:09 AM | Report abuse

If yesterday was Racist Red Thursday, I think today will be known as 'Frisky Friday' will all the thumb sex talk going on.

Posted by: Rypien11 | January 15, 2010 9:11 AM | Report abuse

"Like yesterday. Henceforth immortalized in RI lore as Racist Red Thursday. It was epic."

My friend Adolf says that a little bit of racism is a great way to make yourself famous.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 15, 2010 9:11 AM | Report abuse

Also Bonus! It will be hotter and girls will be wearing less clothes. That's why we love summer.

Posted by: REXskins | January 15, 2010 9:05 AM | Report abuse
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It would also mean the death of the white race.

*RI spontaneously emitting a sound which curiously resembles aerosol spray*

Posted by: mattsoundworld | January 15, 2010 9:11 AM | Report abuse

Oh, nevermind….I just read on wiki that:
The rule does not apply if an assistant coach has language in his contract guaranteeing him the head coaching job in case of an opening.[5] For example, this was the case when Mike Martz took over as head coach of the St. Louis Rams before the 2000 season. Also, the rule does not apply if the assistant coach taking over the head position is a minority, as was the case with Mike Singletary and the San Francisco 49ers in late 2008.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | January 15, 2010 9:12 AM | Report abuse

props to Davis for the poking fun at himself a bit in that video, also am I the only person who loves it when you see a athlete in DC wearing gear from another local team?

Posted by: alex35332 | January 15, 2010 9:13 AM | Report abuse

dl, not true...the Seahawks didn't have to interview a minority to hire Mora since he was already on staff. The only exemption to the Rooney Rule is if your coach is stepping down and you have a successor already named before that.

But I'm glad Mike Tomlin was brought up...the Steelers situation is a different one from anyone else because their FO doesn't change and their coaches stay for a long time. So when they make a hire, they're very thorough and look EVERYWHERE for a young, up-and-comer. Other teams tend to make a new coaching hire when a new GM comes in and that new GM usually has his own guy in mind when he comes in.

So when you already have a guy lined up and you have to open up a search anyway, this is what you get.

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 15, 2010 9:13 AM | Report abuse

dlhaze

Tomlin was hired because he was a up and coming coordinator and he was a great candidate. He wasn't hired because of the Rooney rule. Just like if Leslie Frazier gets a job it will be because he is one of the hottest coordinators out there right now, not because of the rule. The situations in Indy and Seattle are all the more reason the rule should be scrapped.

Posted by: KingJoffeJoffer | January 15, 2010 9:15 AM | Report abuse

...am I the only person who loves it when you see a athlete in DC wearing gear from another local team?

Posted by: alex35332 | January 15, 2010 9:13 AM | Report abuse


The current Wizards should be wearing Washington Generals jerseys the way they play defense.

Posted by: Original_etrod | January 15, 2010 9:16 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 15, 2010 8:40 AM | Report abuse

You've missed the entire point of the global warming argument but that's mostly due to the stupid politicians. The real scientist don't even call it global warming, it's called climate change. Climate change is going to include vast temperature swings. There will be cool periods and warm periods but the overall trend will remain in an increasing manner. The real point isn't that it's getting a couple degrees warmer. The real point is the rate at which it is getting warmer. So yes it has been warmer than it is right now but it's never climbed this fast. The temperature swings in the last century are completely unprecedented. So in short, yes, we are screwing up the planet. Now the big question is what can we do about it? That's where the politicians come in and screw the entire scientific community with a big giant dildo of rhetoric, lies, and biased research. The key to being a successful politician is to find a problem and offer a solution. That's exactly what they are doing. You will drown tomorrow if you don't vote democrat. If you do vote democrat you will receive 1 free puppy and 2 pockets full of rainbows. Now, don't get me wrong. The other party does this too. Remember, Jesus says gays can't get married and you like Jesus so a vote for me is a vote for Jesus. Personally, I hate politics but I see them as a necassary evil. They are extremes on opposite sides and things usually tend towards the middle.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 15, 2010 9:17 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 15, 2010 9:13 AM

Yep, just caught myself up on Wikipedia….those are actually good stipulations to the rule…..

Posted by: dlhaze1 | January 15, 2010 9:17 AM | Report abuse

*RI spontaneously emitting a sound which curiously resembles aerosol spray*

Posted by: mattsoundworld
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Thanks for the reminder. RedSkinHead can consider the ozone depletion and reversal due to public policy as exhibit: A of humans ability to (very quickly) impact the planet.

Also: Hotter than Megan Fox and with no terror thumb - Jennifer Connelly

Posted by: REXskins | January 15, 2010 9:17 AM | Report abuse

Red"Limburger"DMV thinks Matt Leinart is only a QB 'cause he's white... (jk - I guess we have to start posting 'jk' now...)

And

THERE, I FIXED IT...

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 15, 2010 9:19 AM | Report abuse

Good call, Rex...I've had a thing for Jennifer Connelly since The Rocketeer.

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 15, 2010 9:21 AM | Report abuse


The current Wizards should be wearing Washington Generals jerseys the way they play defense.

Posted by: Original_etrod | January 15, 2010 9:16 AM | Report abuse

Well they weren't gonna wear the bullets jerseys.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 15, 2010 9:22 AM | Report abuse

Jennifer Connelly is pretty hot. Nice shelf too.

Kiera Knightly - beautiful.

Shakira - yowza.

Katy Perry - best shelf out there right now.

Posted by: Rypien11 | January 15, 2010 9:22 AM | Report abuse

Yeah she's hotter AND she can actually act, unlike Frankenfinger Fox

Posted by: REXskins | January 15, 2010 9:23 AM | Report abuse

I was lunchin yesterday... Simply a byproduct of being accused of something that I DID NOT say nor suggest... that was taken as that I made racist comment toward them.

I'm a dude of the people, since it was suggested and probably believe by most up here I'm some ghetto/street racist guy, I gave them what they wanted.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 15, 2010 9:25 AM | Report abuse

Good call, Rex...I've had a thing for Jennifer Connelly since The Rocketeer.

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 15, 2010 9:21 AM | Report abuse


Career Oportunities. The rocking horse scene may be her finest work.

Posted by: Original_etrod | January 15, 2010 9:28 AM | Report abuse

I get where folks are about Jerry Gray, but let's not forget he was a stellar pro cornerback on the rams teams featuring E Dickerson and Henry Ellard.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 15, 2010 9:09 AM | Report abuse

Not sure what this is supposed to mean. PLayers he coaches respect him because he played the game 20 years ago? Sure that holds water, but doesnt push him over the edge with his poor communication skills. He literally made no sense in the interviews I saw.

Posted by: VaBeachBlitz | January 15, 2010 9:28 AM | Report abuse

my percussionist cussed out Jennifer Connelly at the Clevelander on SoBe in the 90's... Awesmoe!

Oh & "SJK to SJK, ladies!" also awesmoe.

Lately she's a bit skinny, tho.

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 15, 2010 9:31 AM | Report abuse

"My friend Adolf says that a little bit of racism is a great way to make yourself famous."


Also a popular tactic used to gain popularity or admiration is the use of spreading propaganda -- outright LIES!

Posted by: RedDMV | January 15, 2010 9:32 AM | Report abuse

I'm a dude of the people, since it was suggested and probably believe by most up here I'm some ghetto/street racist guy, I gave them what they wanted.

Posted by: RedDMV
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Internet forum commenting isn't an activity that fits my conception of a ghetto/street racist guy. Maybe that's just me.

Personally I imagine everyone to be geeky like me, except some are a black version of me, and others an old version of me.

RedSkinHead I imagine to be an 18 year old white power kind of guy, because of the double interpretation in his name. Besides that it's more fun to argue with nazis.

obligatory j/k?

Posted by: REXskins | January 15, 2010 9:32 AM | Report abuse

Another thing to consider about the Rooney Rule: who makes up many of the league's coaches? Former players. Guys currently coaching in their 60s would have been playing in the 60s/70s. Many of the players in the NFL at that time were white.

And you just don't come off the playing field into a HC gig. You have to climb up the ranks, slowly but steadily. So as black players became more prevalent in the 70s/80s, more of those players became coaches and climbed the ranks and are now getting HC gigs. So it's not like we have these bigot owners NOT hiring black coaches because they're black. They weren't hiring them because there weren't that many qualified for the job just yet.

In the modern NFL, Art Shell changed that. And when he got a gig and did well, it opened the door for guys like Tony Dungy, who has spawned his own coaching tree that consists mostly of black coaches. And Shell and Dungy were solid players in the 70s, further proving my point.

So bottom line is, if there's a spike in black coaches in the NFL it's not gonna be because of a bunch of sham interviews under the guise of the Rooney Rule. It'll be because there are more black coordinators and assistants that are gaining experience and getting prepared for that role. I see where the Rooney Rule helps, but in 2010 I just don't think it's necessary anymore.

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 15, 2010 9:33 AM | Report abuse

Besides that it's more fun to argue with nazis.

obligatory j/k?

Posted by: REXskins | January 15, 2010 9:32 AM | Report abuse

I disagree, its not just nazis but fascist in general. I am having a great argument on a facebook poll with a asian guy who is a total right wing fascist nut.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 15, 2010 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Red,

Here's some of the heinous footage of Megan Fox's thumb:

http://photos.tmz.com/galleries/megan_foxs_thumb#tab=most_recent&id=44269

She goes from a 10 to a 7.5 thanks to that fugly finger...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 15, 2010 8:08 AM

I suppose you'd kick her out of bed for eating crackers.

Posted by: skinfanman | January 15, 2010 9:39 AM | Report abuse

Jennifer Connelly - The Hot Spot. Wowza. And if you're into that kind of thing, Requiem for a Dream.

So, is a penchant for disregarding statistics when arguing about anything correlated with denying climate change?

Posted by: dpc2003 | January 15, 2010 9:39 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 15, 2010 9:33 AM

Well said....I agree.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | January 15, 2010 9:40 AM | Report abuse

Also: Hotter than Megan Fox and with no terror thumb - Jennifer Connelly

Posted by: REXskins

F M. Fox

Jennifer Connelly used to live on my block, I would see her buying milk, walking her kid...just living not all hollywooded out...and that is one legit beautiful woman even no make-up, in a puffy coat with a brat in tow.

Redskinhead, yeah duh all of us would be stoked to bag a celebrity hottie that is a given genius, but we are discussing their universal hottness as they put themselves out there

VAbeach..no crack here, just different tastes, which is a biological function due to evolution (which redskinhead prolly has his own scientist to refute) to ensure that we arn't all trying to knock up the same babe.

Posted by: chrislarry | January 15, 2010 9:41 AM | Report abuse

i thought fascists were left wing?

Al, plz 'splain!

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 15, 2010 9:44 AM | Report abuse

I suppose you'd kick her out of bed for eating crackers.

Posted by: skinfanman | January 15, 2010 9:39 AM


No, I'd kick out of bed for having hammer thumbs.

I've always liked chicks with a more classic girl-next-door look anyway, like Jennifer Garner. Chicks like that seem so much more attainable than, say, Angelina Jolie.

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 15, 2010 9:44 AM | Report abuse

Connelly isn't on my laminated list.

Posted by: dpc2003 | January 15, 2010 9:45 AM | Report abuse

Wiki:

Fascism, pronounced /ˈfæʃɪzəm/, is a political ideology that seeks to combine radical and authoritarian nationalism[1][2][3][4] with a corporatist economic system,[5] and which is usually considered to be on the far right of the traditional left-right political spectrum

Posted by: REXskins | January 15, 2010 9:46 AM | Report abuse

PAskinsfan17,
YOU'VE missed the point, but you're a Campbell backer, so I always grade you on a curve. My problem isn't with whether or not it is happening (I think it is), or at the rate at which is happening (Not conlusive that it is happening any faster this time that it did in any other time period because they cannot know the rate of increase in previous time periods - the way they infer this data is just too shakey). I work with statistics day in and day out and it amazes me how people can draw relevance from statistically insignificant data. How can you say mankind is making the globe warm when the globe has warmed many times in the past and man wasn't around to do it? It's not like the ozone layer where there was a definitive cause and effect. There is no "smoking gun" when it comes to global warming.

BTW, I think it is a really good idea to reduce carbon emissions - eventually it will become a problem. AND, the way you can tell this is a politicized issue is because no one is talking about the logical solution to growth in carbon dioxide: population control. Think about it. If the world population wasn't growing, we wouldn't need more coal fired power plants. We wouldn't need more gasoline powered automobiles. We wouldn't need to chop down more forests. IF this was a crisis of the magnitude some politicians suggest, then why aren't we talking about immediate measures to curb population growth? The reality is, it is a hot button issue being used to push political agendas. They don't want to suggest something like population control, because then they suspect they will lose their political backing of the relgious groups that are against population control. If this were a real crisis, would that matter? Instead of talking about carbon credits - which is the most asinine thing I have ever heard about - why not talk about taxing people who have more than one child?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 15, 2010 9:48 AM | Report abuse

I see Im the minority here. I usually dont drool over chicks like her. I think its the eyes... def not her hammer thumbs.

Jen Connelly is a gorgeous woman.

So is Marissa Miller from SI

Posted by: VaBeachBlitz | January 15, 2010 9:48 AM | Report abuse

Dik,
Fascists, Communists, Socialists and Nazi's are all liberal, left wing movements. The name they go by in the USA is "Democrat".

At least, according to real, patriotic Americans, who are all Republicans.

Posted by: dpc2003 | January 15, 2010 9:49 AM | Report abuse

i thought fascists were left wing?

Al, plz 'splain!

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 15, 2010 9:44 AM | Report abuse

Facism is hard to judge on a left wing/right wing scale.

But it is usually associated with extreme right wing policy.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | January 15, 2010 9:50 AM | Report abuse

Fascists represent the far right of the spectrum while hard-core communist goverments do on the left.

The interesting part is that is more circular than linear in that the end result of a far right govt and far left govt (and I am talking The real examples like Nazi Germany/Mussalini Italy-Stalin's Russia Red China...not the USA name calling crappe) look and act about the same, especially if you polled the poor SOBs that have to live under them...

Ok this is mad dull can we get back to Football, sports, ranking hotties and fave movie genres now?

Posted by: chrislarry | January 15, 2010 9:50 AM | Report abuse

True, Rex.

I about as geek/nerdy you can get for a black guy, but without the geeky/nerdy persona.

So according to brown, most coaches are in their late 50s or 60s and the reason why they're more white coaches than black coaches is because most coaches are former players. And about 25-30 years ago there were more white players than blacks, or minorities in general in the NFL.

Do I follow correctly?

So there should be mad black coaches in about 15-20 years, because the NFL right now is majority black.

I can kind of agree with that.

But numbers don't always suggest the way things are. So, do you think in 15-20 years there will be more black owners and GMs than it is now? Because that's who calls the shots.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 15, 2010 9:52 AM | Report abuse

Holy crap I was kidding but RedSkinHead really is a fascist. Population control? Wow.

Posted by: REXskins | January 15, 2010 9:52 AM | Report abuse

AND, the way you can tell this is a politicized issue is because no one is talking about the logical solution to growth in carbon dioxide: population control. Think about it. If the world population wasn't growing, we wouldn't need more coal fired power plants. We wouldn't need more gasoline powered automobiles. We wouldn't need to chop down more forests.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 15, 2010 9:48 AM | Report abuse

Population control. China does it right? I mean, lets get it down to a total Earth population of about 30,000 ppl. Do you know the odds of making it in the NFL with those number?!

Posted by: VaBeachBlitz | January 15, 2010 9:53 AM | Report abuse

Ya know I actually love politics, but not on RI.

My rule of m. Fox's thumb is:

"F anyone who uses political analogies to make a point about Skins/football. They are hardly ever analogous, lack depth and usually show a deep misunderstanding of both the football and the politics"

I'm sticking to that.

Posted by: chrislarry | January 15, 2010 9:54 AM | Report abuse

RedSkinHead I imagine to be an 18 year old white power kind of guy, because of the double interpretation in his name. Besides that it's more fun to argue with nazis.

obligatory j/k?

Posted by: REXskins | January 15, 2010 9:32 A
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You shouldn't put labels on people. For what it is worth, I am a 47 year old father of four who has been a Redskins fan his entire life, and took the name Redskinhead because in this head of mine I possess a lot of trivia about the Redskins. I hope that helps you put me in a nice little box with more erroneous assumptions about my opinions.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 15, 2010 9:56 AM | Report abuse

all this talk of thumbs reminds me of this email I received some time ago:

It takes your food seven seconds to get from your mouth to your stomach.

One human hair can support 3kg (6.6 lb).

The average man's private area is three times the length of his thumb.

Human thighbones are stronger than concrete.

A woman's heart beats faster than a man's...

There are about one trillion bacteria on each of your feet.

Women blink twice as often as men.

The average person's skin weighs twice as much as the brain.

Your body uses 300 muscles to balance itself when you are standing still.

If saliva cannot dissolve something, you cannot taste it.

Women reading this will be finished now.

Men are still busy checking their thumbs.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | January 15, 2010 9:57 AM | Report abuse

RedSkinHead,

First, this thing you said doesn't make sense: "BTW, I think it is a really good idea to reduce carbon emissions - eventually it will become a problem"

So you're saying eventually it will be a problem, but somehow it's not a problem right now? With your criticism of scientific evidence, where are you pulling that statement out of?

Second, population control is a terrible, insane idea which I don't believe you've thought through for 5 seconds.

The solution is pouring money into scientific research for

#1 renewable energy so we don't have to destroy swaths of land and poison the air
#2 improved materials so we don't have to destroy swaths of forest
#3 improved agriculture, see #1 and #2.

I don't care how much it costs, these things will pay off for the human race for the rest of time.

Posted by: REXskins | January 15, 2010 10:00 AM | Report abuse

I'm a dude of the people, since it was suggested and probably believe by most up here I'm some ghetto/street racist guy, I gave them what they wanted.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 15, 2010 9:25 AM | Report abuse
You sure did, Red. You gave it to them in spades. OOPS. Was that racist?

Posted by: frediefritz | January 15, 2010 10:00 AM | Report abuse

Right wing socialists?!

The National Socialist German Workers' Party (German: Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei)

please, 'splain further...?

'cause "The Party believed that Social Welfare was the business of the State" seems kinda left to me...at least these days.

Again, I'm a music major, so ...

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 15, 2010 10:03 AM | Report abuse

Anyone else been reading the stuff that's coming out now about Marvin Harrison.

How is this guy not in jail?

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | January 15, 2010 10:04 AM | Report abuse

VA Beach, I like the way you're thinking.

But, supposing there is a roughly 50-50 ratio of men to women. I'm thinking the chance of getting a Jennifer Connelly out of that small a sample may not make it worthwhile.

Let's take this a little further. To get to your 30K population, that's going to take a global catastrophe. To produce this, we elect Sarah Palin as President. I'm confident that by the end of her first year in office, some sort of global thermonuclear war will have been started, and finished.

Now, surviving this will require living in mine shafts until the surface of the planet is habitable. I'm getting this next bit from Dr. Strangelove...

"Doctor, you mentioned the ration of ten women to each man. Now, wouldn't that necessitate the abandonment of the so called monogamous sexual relationship, I mean, as far as men were concerned?"

"Regrettably, yes. But it is, you know, a sacrifice required for the future of the human race. I hasten to add that since each man will be required to do prodigious... service along these lines, the women will have to be selected for their sexual characteristics which will have to be of a highly stimulating nature"

So, with roughly 50 years of NFL films to watch, a select few will be in charge of eventually re-creating the NFL.

Without the Dallas Cow Boys.

Posted by: dpc2003 | January 15, 2010 10:04 AM | Report abuse

RedSkinHead I said j/k. Obviously I don't think you're a Nazi, it's just funny that you didn't think your name through.

But you might be a fascist with that population control insanity, which is funny because you have four kids.

Posted by: REXskins | January 15, 2010 10:05 AM | Report abuse

Population control. China does it right? I mean, lets get it down to a total Earth population of about 30,000 ppl. Do you know the odds of making it in the NFL with those number?!
Posted by: VaBeachBlitz | January 15, 2010 9:53 AM

I work with a Chinese woman who was here on visa and her husband was still in China. He came over here for a bit and they had a kid but basically had to wait on US citizenship before having another kid in case they had to go back to China. They were very worried about it, and are relieved to be US citizens, but I think that they are essentially here for good because they wanted more than one kid.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | January 15, 2010 10:06 AM | Report abuse

Another thing to consider about the Rooney Rule: who makes up many of the league's coaches? Former players. Guys currently coaching in their 60s would have been playing in the 60s/70s. Many of the players in the NFL at that time were white.

And you just don't come off the playing field into a HC gig. You have to climb up the ranks, slowly but steadily. So as black players became more prevalent in the 70s/80s, more of those players became coaches and climbed the ranks and are now getting HC gigs. So it's not like we have these bigot owners NOT hiring black coaches because they're black. They weren't hiring them because there weren't that many qualified for the job just yet.

In the modern NFL, Art Shell changed that. And when he got a gig and did well, it opened the door for guys like Tony Dungy, who has spawned his own coaching tree that consists mostly of black coaches. And Shell and Dungy were solid players in the 70s, further proving my point.

So bottom line is, if there's a spike in black coaches in the NFL it's not gonna be because of a bunch of sham interviews under the guise of the Rooney Rule. It'll be because there are more black coordinators and assistants that are gaining experience and getting prepared for that role. I see where the Rooney Rule helps, but in 2010 I just don't think it's necessary anymore.

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 15, 2010 9:33 AM | Report abuse
That's a very good analysis, brownie. The Rooney Rule, like the LooneyLule, doesn't hurt, probably sped the process, but can be abused and doesn't make as much sense now as it once did. Kinda like the "Glass Ceiling" for women in business and politics.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 15, 2010 10:06 AM | Report abuse

Population control is logical, but you have to turn down your emotional resistance to the idea. As I said, I work with statistics and logic all day. This is how I see this issue. Your reaction is exactly why the politicians don't bring it up. If the world was going to suffocate in another fifty years because of population growth, you had better believe they would be talking about it. If mankind-induced global warming was a certainty, then they would be talking about it. Political logic is stupid.

I also like the fact that as soon as I offered a viewpoint contrary to what some of you agree with, you immediately labeled me a fascist. Didn't a group of you label RedDMV a racist yesterday? Is this how you combat a contrary opinion - by throwing out ugly labels? Doesn't your liberal manifesto provide for freedom of speech?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 15, 2010 10:08 AM | Report abuse

So, do you think in 15-20 years there will be more black owners and GMs than it is now? Because that's who calls the shots.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 15, 2010 9:52 AM


Absolutely. I mean, think about it: how many more are there now than there were even 10 years ago? There weren't ANY then, now there's about 4 or 5.

And this can't be overlooked either: the population in general is going to change drastically in the next 10 years or so. "Minorities" won't be minorities at all; hispanic and black people are steadily becoming the majority. And as that evolution happens, there will in turn be more blacks and hispanics in positions of power.

I really don't think white guys will become an endangered species like they are in the NBA, but I definitely see more black faces wearing headsets on Sundays. And Mondays. And sometimes Thursdays.

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 15, 2010 10:10 AM | Report abuse

"If mankind-induced global warming was a certainty, then they would be talking about it. "

Uh, it's a certainty that Medicare will be bankrupt by 2015. There are plenty of politicans who insist that they don't want to raise taxes or cut Medicare.

When it's as obvious as the Medicare problem, and a whole political party is willing to ignore the problem for political purposes, it seems naive to think if anything else was a real problem they'd be talking about it.

Posted by: dpc2003 | January 15, 2010 10:11 AM | Report abuse

I was just joking about the whole 30K population, hope others were too. I totally ripped off Bill Burr with that one. That dude is frickin hilarious

Posted by: VaBeachBlitz | January 15, 2010 10:13 AM | Report abuse

Facism is hard to judge on a left wing/right wing scale.

But it is usually associated with extreme right wing policy.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | January 15, 2010 9:50 AM | Report abuse
You are right, PPStr8. But I have a theory that the political spectrum is a circle, rather than a str8 line. So if you go far enough to the right, you begin to enter the left. Thoughts? j/k

Posted by: frediefritz | January 15, 2010 10:14 AM | Report abuse

re: Global waming. I hate this f'ing topic but since we're talking about it, here goes.

Is our climate changing? Absolutely. Are humans helping, not really. Is this climate change a direct result of human activity? Probably not.

There was a long warm period during the dark ages in which the polar ice caps receded to a point that allowed Vikings to migrate to North America via the islands in the Arctic Circle. This period was followed by a 'mini ice age' which cut off these routes and lead to the demise of the Viking civilization. This cooling period lasted until the late 18th century, about the time of the industrial revolution.

It's no coincidence that the rise of the environmental movement coincided with the fall of communism. The far left needed something to latch on to.

Also, since the earth climate has leveled off and maybe cooled a bit in the past 10 years, it's now called 'Climate Change' instead of 'Global Warming'. In fact, in the 1970s, scientists were declaring thre would be an oncoming ice age due to 'Global Cooling'.

We are currently in the midst of one of the most active solar cycles we've seen in a long-ass time which is no doubt wreaking havoc on our weather patterns.

As far as the majority of the scientific community believing this to be the case, you'll need to look at where the majority of the scientific community is getting their funding from. There's no such thing as an independent study anymore.

Posted by: Original_etrod | January 15, 2010 10:14 AM | Report abuse

And yes, I'm even boring myself. Srry. Letz droppit.

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 15, 2010 10:15 AM | Report abuse

"I suppose you'd kick her (Megan Fox) out of bed for eating crackers."

I'd kick her out of the bed to f!ck her on the floor.

Thing is, I'm almost 50, so that might take all of 3-4 minutes.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 15, 2010 10:15 AM | Report abuse

So if you go far enough to the right, you begin to enter the left. Thoughts? j/k

Posted by: frediefritz | January 15, 2010 10:14 AM | Report abuse
Sorry, cl. I'm catching up on the thread, and didn't see your 9:50 post. It is interesting to think about. Maybe we could go to 3-D next.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 15, 2010 10:17 AM | Report abuse

LOL, Moe

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 15, 2010 10:17 AM | Report abuse

Anyone else been reading the stuff that's coming out now about Marvin Harrison.

How is this guy not in jail?


Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8

I think the only guy who could have a witness for the prosecution was killed -- in a separate incident not involving the case with Marvin Harrison, of course.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 15, 2010 10:18 AM | Report abuse

RedSkinHead,

Fascists advocate the creation of a single-party state, with the belief that the majority is unsuited to govern itself through democracy and by reaffirming the benefits of inequality.

Thus population control is a Fascist policy, and you by advocating it are making fascist statements.

Population control is insane because of what you'd have to do to implement it. It's a human rights nightmare, and we (democratic Americans) really appreciate our human rights. Was 1984 required reading when you were in school?

Posted by: REXskins | January 15, 2010 10:18 AM | Report abuse

RedSkinHead I said j/k. Obviously I don't think you're a Nazi, it's just funny that you didn't think your name through.

But you might be a fascist with that population control insanity, which is funny because you have four kids.

Posted by: REXskins | January 15, 2010 10:05 AM
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Hey, I would gladly pay more taxes because I have four children. The way our current system works is I get more tax breaks for every additional child. Our government actually encourages population growth, which seems backwards to me.

Incidentally, I have been to China several times. Their process of population control is not very effective: works in the cities, but not in the rural areas.

I just used this an example really. I don't think you can argue that population control would solve the global warming problem. So, if mankind-created global warming is such a terrible thing that we need to be alarmed about, why isn't someone talking about population control?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 15, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse

Global Warming, Over population: There are reasonable solutions that can be achieved by science and technology and creative minds in the not too distant future. But lets be real. Space travel would help exponentially. If we could build a ship that could do the Kessel Run in less than 12 parsecs, these wouldnt even be issues.

Posted by: VaBeachBlitz | January 15, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse

Dik,
Fascists usually will come in the cloak of a liberal group because no one in a free society will give up their rights until they have been conditioned to do so. Thats why you have Nazi's going from socialist to fascist.

Here is a list of the 14 aspects of fascism. To long to post.
http://www.rense.com/general37/char.htm

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
4. Supremacy of the Military
5. Rampant Sexism
6. Controlled Mass Media
7. Obsession with National Security
8. Religion and Government are Intertwined
9. Corporate Power is Protected
10. Labor Power is Suppressed
11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
12. Obsession with Crime and Punishmen
13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
14. Fraudulent Elections

Posted by: alex35332 | January 15, 2010 10:20 AM | Report abuse

"I suppose you'd kick her (Megan Fox) out of bed for eating crackers."

I'd kick her out of the bed to f!ck her on the floor.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 15, 2010 10:20 AM | Report abuse

Not that I'm the moderator here, but I gotta say...there's no room for politics or religion on this blog. Those two topics incite more riots of a verbal and literal nature that it's just not worth the blood pressure points. Hell, I'd even re-enter the JC debate if it means no politics/religion...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 15, 2010 10:20 AM | Report abuse

Booooooooorrrrrriiiiinnnnnggggggggg

I so don't care what most of you think about "big issues" small ones? Abso-freaking-lutely!

thanks, I gotta get to work.

Posted by: chrislarry | January 15, 2010 10:22 AM | Report abuse

I think the only guy who could have a witness for the prosecution was killed -- in a separate incident not involving the case with Marvin Harrison, of course.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 15, 2010 10:18 AM | Report abuse

Marvin Harrison = The Godfather

Never would have suspected it, but it turns out he might be a real bad dude.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | January 15, 2010 10:24 AM | Report abuse

RedSkinHead,

Fascists advocate the creation of a single-party state, with the belief that the majority is unsuited to govern itself through democracy and by reaffirming the benefits of inequality.

Thus population control is a Fascist policy, and you by advocating it are making fascist statements.

Population control is insane because of what you'd have to do to implement it. It's a human rights nightmare, and we (democratic Americans) really appreciate our human rights. Was 1984 required reading when you were in school?

Posted by: REXskins | January 15, 2010 10:18 AM
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For Pete's sake, man, I am not talking about marching into someone's home and taking away their children! I am talking about dis-incentives through taxation after the first child.

In China, every child after the first is not a child of China. They are not eligible for schooling, medical, etc. that is typically provided for by the government. They do not say you cannot have that child. It's very expensive, but I have friends that were part of a family with more than one child. It is hard because having another child becomes very expensive, but they don't make you terminate a second pregnancy or any of that nonsense.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 15, 2010 10:26 AM | Report abuse

Someone posted that their is no Gibbs 1.0 to be found among today's crop of young head coaches.

Here are some guys who deserve tons 'o respect, though:

Rex Ryan

John Harbaugh

Tony Sparano

Mike Smith

Mike Singletary


Not a one of the inherited a great situation, especially Sparano and Singletary, and they put teams on the field that played hard.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 15, 2010 10:26 AM | Report abuse

RedSkinHead you would pay more taxes for your four children. What would poor people do who had too many children? Are you going to capture and neuter them or what? Are you going to take their kids away and then your extra taxes go to paying for the poor kid's foster homes? Not in my country.

You're encouraging smart people to have less kids for financial reasons, and stupid people will have just as many as they already do. That's already a problem right now in this country, population control would make it ten times worse. I don't think you've thought this through.

F Dallas

Posted by: REXskins | January 15, 2010 10:26 AM | Report abuse

Marvin Harrison = The Godfather
Never would have suspected it, but it turns out he might be a real bad dude.
Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | January 15, 2010 10:24 AM

It is kind of funny; he is so unassuming with his cheesy moustache and “no-style” haircut. Reminds me of Robert Townshend. Guess you can't judge a book......

Posted by: dlhaze1 | January 15, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Fine want me to spin it for you guys who dont get it;

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - F-Dallas, HTTR,
2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - See knives in Zorns back.
3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - Jason Campbell, Vinny ect ect.
4. Supremacy of the Military - See David Donavan sign policy.
5. Rampant Sexism- see cheerleaders, see lack of females in leadership of team
6. Controlled Mass Media - See ESPN 980, RedZebra, Post freeze out.
7. Obsession with National Security - Again see sign policy, t-shirt policy
8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - See Joe Gibbs
9. Corporate Power is Protected - See ticketgate.
10. Labor Power is Suppressed - See CBA, which snyder is vehemently been known to be opposed to.
11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - See our play calling, okay joke.
12. Obsession with Crime and Punishmen - Again look at the ticket thing.
13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - See Vinny for 10 years, see our former WR coach.
14. Fraudulent Elections- See stories on redskins and Rooney Rule

Posted by: alex35332 | January 15, 2010 10:31 AM | Report abuse

But numbers don't always suggest the way things are. So, do you think in 15-20 years there will be more black owners and GMs than it is now? Because that's who calls the shots.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 15, 2010 9:52 AM | Report abuse
Interesting question, Red. I think the answer is clearly "no". Ownership is based on wealth and access to money, not athleticism. Clearly as more players are black, more coaches are black, so more HC's will be black.

Wealth instead follows success, and to a lesser degree, inheritance. I suspect that 20 years from now, wealth will be more balanced to population, but I would not expect a higher proportion of blacks.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 15, 2010 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Harrison fits the Original Gangster profile to a tee.

Posted by: Original_etrod | January 15, 2010 10:33 AM | Report abuse

ppstr8, I know right? They always say though the most quietest is the most strongest.

It seems that Marvin Harrison gets mad respect on the "streets of philadelphia"...

"da-num-num-num...."

Posted by: RedDMV | January 15, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Wow so this is what you guys talk about in the offseason. Thankfully I was deployed last year. LOL.

Posted by: hudginsc | January 15, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

beeps

Posted by: RedDMV | January 15, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

alex

"Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - See Vinny for 10 years, see our former WR coach."


So you're saying that by being redskins' fans, we are supporting facism?

Thanks for the heads up, bro'.

I guess now I can stop sending my money to Cuba.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 15, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Megan Fox, if you are reading this: I'll accept your "odd" thumbs. I'll look past your outer beauty and find that inner beauty I know you have.

Call me. I'll be waiting. I love you.

Smoke.

Posted by: smokeybear2 | January 15, 2010 10:39 AM | Report abuse

Someone posted that their is no Gibbs 1.0 to be found among today's crop of young head coaches.

Rex Ryan

John Harbaugh

Tony Sparano

Mike Smith

Mike Singletary


Posted by: MistaMoe | January 15, 2010 10:26 AM


Do you mean "young" as in age, or HC experience? Because none of those guys (except Harbaugh) is under the age of 47.

To me, a young coach is a guy in his 30s or early 40s getting his first HC gig.

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 15, 2010 10:39 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 15, 2010 9:48 AM | Report abuse

As a Campbell basher you once again have missed the point. The reason I can say that it is increasing faster than it ever has before is because that is the consensus among the scientific community. There have been studies that determine the rate of temperture change over time. They use all sorts of things to determine that. Some examples include tree rings, ice core samples, geological samples, and whatever else they're using. If you want to attack those studies then that's fine you can argue with the scientist that conducted them. For now, the majority of climate scientist accepted the observation that we are seeing temperature changes unlike any others in history. Not all agree but most do.

The way science works is that the overall consensus is accepted as true until new evidence is discovered. Now, you may say that the scientist use to think that the earth was flat and they did. So yes the vocal minority back then was right. Does that mean that all vocal minorities are right? No, it doesn't. There are scientist who believe that the temperature swings are attrubuted to the sun, natural cycles, cow farts, and even my dog. Are they all correct? Are some of them correct? Who knows? The consensus right now is that climate change is caused by man so I can say that and be correct. When new evidence arises that shows that climate change is actually caused by the flying spaghetti monster I can change my opinion and still be correct. That's why science and politics will never ever mix. Science can flip flop politicians can not. Keep in mind that we have no conclusive evidence as to how gravity works. Most of our physical phenomena are explained through theories. Theories can be argued. Facts can not. The facts come from observations. If you drop a pencil it falls to the floor. Therefore Gravity exists. The fact is that The earth is getting warmer. The widely accepted theory is that man is causing it. So for now, man is causing it.


BTW, we do agree that population control is something that is needed.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 15, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse

i think we should trade chris cooley....as much as i like him, i think fred davis will be better and there's no need to have two really good tightends.....if we could get a second rounder, in trade cooley in a heartbeat

Posted by: askhosh10 | January 15, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse

probably too late for a 2nd rounder for Cooley.. He is coming off a broken ankle.. At this point maybe not more than a 4th or 3rd rounder.
Unless he shows a full comeback in the first part of 2010, it would fairly or unfairly indicate he is breaking down and on the downside of his career.
Better to get him back in shape and on the field to increase his value. Then trade him before the Oct 2010 NFL Trade Deadline for a 2011 2nd or a much needed player / stopgap in 2010 depending on injuries in the first 4 games before the deadline.
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askhosh wrote
i think we should trade chris cooley....as much as i like him, i think fred davis will be better and there's no need to have two really good tightends.....if we could get a second rounder, in trade cooley in a heartbeat

Posted by: askhosh10 | January 15, 2010 11:42 AM

Posted by: cliftonbiz | January 15, 2010 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Redskins Pro Bowl candidates for 2010: Orakpo, Haynesworth, Fletcher, D-Hall, Fred Davis, Clinton Portis, Dockery, Okunk (yea, I wrote it). That's right, you heard it here first- after everyone has written him off, CP has a big bounce back season. Whether it's money, naysayers, regime change or some combo thereof, he'll be plenty motivated.

Clinton Portis- 2010 Comeback POY. Book it.

DRAFT OKUNG

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | January 15, 2010 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Wiki:

Fascism, pronounced /ˈfæʃɪzəm/, is a political ideology that seeks to combine radical and authoritarian nationalism[1][2][3][4] with a corporatist economic system,[5] and which is usually considered to be on the far right of the traditional left-right political spectrum

Posted by: REXskins | January 15, 2010 9:46 AM | Report abuse

Of course if you use a REAL source such as Websters as I did you get the following definition:

Main Entry: fas·cism
Pronunciation: \ˈfa-ˌshi-zəm also ˈfa-ˌsi-\
Function: noun
Etymology: Italian fascismo, from fascio bundle, fasces, group, from Latin fascis bundle & fasces fasces
Date: 1921
1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
2 : a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control

— fas·cist \-shist also -sist\ noun or adjective often capitalized

— fas·cis·tic \fa-ˈshis-tik also -ˈsis-\ adjective often capitalized

— fas·cis·ti·cal·ly \-ti-k(ə-)lē\ adverb often capitalized

Posted by: rjohnson66 | January 15, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

50... damn.. you'd have to get her over your bed rail first..
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Thing is, I'm almost 50, so that might take all of 3-4 minutes.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 15, 2010 10:15 AM

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 15, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Redskinhead you must be a Republican...Please dont compare Global Warming and football stats...Not that I care but if you dont think these erratic weather changes is due to man than you probably also think the world is flat...ANYWAY....

To be a JC hater or dont think he's a QB that can win in the NFL you cant really evaluate talent. Campbell throught the season had several games over 67% completion percentage and ended the season at 65% which is top tier in the NFL. By the way he had numerous drops by Santana, Fred Davis, and ARE. The first game against Dallas JC was 13/13 on 3rd downs. He is doing all this with a depleted O-line, practice squad RB and inexperienced receivers and the three musketeers as play callers. The hail mary at the end of the season was merely an attempt to keep his stats up. He had 2 td's and no pics and a high QB rating he wasn't going to throw a meaningless pic to tarnish his numbers. It was the first time all season JC thought about himself before his teammates. I think your mistaken about the fred davis pic he through it ahead of him and fred davis should still have caught the ball. In regards to the Tampa game we still won the game and after throwing those to picks he led us to scoring drives which ended being the outcome of the game Good QB's win games when they dont play well. Im not sure what games your watching but when JC misses deep balls it usually overthrown so I dont know where your getting these underthown passes. When the term "noodle" is used in terms of QB's it means they have a weak arm it has nothing to do with accuracy.
Furthermore, hes been sacked 44 times and hit over 115 times so his intentional groundings come when hes trying to get rid of the ball and not take another sack. Against cowboys, eagles and saints he was sacked a total of 3 times and that was bc he was playing his butt off not bc stephon heyer and co were blocking well. Get your facts straight he didnt lose 13 fumbles.
Pocket awareness??? he has no pocket. He gets stripped from his blind side bc he has no where to step up to bc our OG are being pushed back into his lap
Tom Brady, Joe Montana, Mark Rypien, Doug wllliams all superbowl MVP's and they led by example not vocally.

Campbell is a top 12 QB and he had stretches where he played really well. Without a supporting cast no QB can succeed. Shanahans passing game is predicated off of play action, boot legs and deep shots which are campbells strengths.

It sounds like redskinhead would assemble a roster just like Danny boy.

P.S Sundae is spelled with a Y....You must being thinking about ice cream and sprinkles

Posted by: twenty-36-one | January 15, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

How tall is Kelli Johnson? I used to think she was standing on a platform when she interviewed players after the games, but then I saw her interview some players as they were walking off the field and she was just as tall as they were.

Posted by: clark202 | January 15, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

sam bradford has pretty thumbs

Posted by: coparker5 | January 15, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

know everyone has their place in the Jason Campbell debate. You can't win that argument with statistics because you can lie with statistics just as easily as you can with words (i.e.; global warming).

I do know what I see though:

Posted by: kenboy1 | January 15, 2010 7:52 PM | Report abuse

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Fascists advocate the creation of a single-party state, with the belief that the majority is unsuited to govern itself through democracy and by reaffirming the benefits of inequality.

Thus population control is a Fascist policy, and you by advocating it are making fascist statements.

Population control is insane because of what you'd have to do to implement it. It's a human rights nightmare, and we (democratic Americans) really appreciate our human rights. Was 1984 required reading when you were in school?

Posted by: REXskins | January 15, 2010 10:18 AM

Lord, I don't know how this got into the discussion, but I'll throw my two cents in. Facism is the collaboration between govt, the military, and big business to run a country to meet their own narrow agenda/interests. Like we saw the last eight years, and which hasn't really gotten much better.

Posted by: kenboy1 | January 15, 2010 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Look, I really don't want to get in a debate about global warming on this site, but let me ask you this: have there been periods in the Earth's history where the average temperature was actually higher than what they predict it will be in a hundred years? Based on that fact, how can you draw any conclusion that the most recent change had anything to do with man? To use your own stupid statement in context, I just heard that 9 out of ten people who use cosmetics and smoke end up with lung cancer, therefore it must be the combination of the two that give lung cancer. And do me a favor, the next time you want to start a battle of wits, come to the fight better armed.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 15, 2010 8:40 AM
Its basic chemisty. The earths atmosphere and bodies of water have saturation points. You keep dumping enough crap into either one, after a while, the rate of dissipitation is less than the rate of addition, you have accumulatin, and it will eventualy affect many things, including temparature, density, and toxicity. We almost killed the Chesapeake Bay, there are several completely dead zones in the Gulf of Mexico, and the ozone holes only healed up after we stopped filling the air with tons of CFCs every year. I have two twenty something kids, and I'd love to just stick my head in the sand and sing Hail to the Redskins, but I owe it to them to take this seriously.

Posted by: kenboy1 | January 15, 2010 8:23 PM | Report abuse

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