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Hall ready for Thursday, then season opener

Some Redskins players would rather not make the long trip this week to face the Arizona Cardinals in the preseason finale at University of Phoenix Stadium.

But top cornerback DeAngelo Hall is not among them.

"Man, I'm just glad our last [preseason] game is Thursday. That just means the week is shorter and the season is about to start," Hall said. "That just means less practice before we really get into it. We've been waiting a long time to get this going, and we're almost there now."

The Redskins on Sept. 12 face the NFC East rival Dallas Cowboys at FedEx Field. "There's so much stuff we haven't shown as a defense yet, so much stuff that we've been working on that we're finally going to get a chance to do," Hall said. "Redskins-Cowboys to start the season? That's what I'm talking 'bout."

By Jason Reid  |  August 31, 2010; 6:00 AM ET
Categories:  DeAngelo Hall , Preseason schedule , preseason games  | Tags: DeAngelo Hall  
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By Jason Reid | August 31, 2010; 6:00 AM ET

HTF can you post something at 10:17 PM on August 30 with a file date of "August 31, 2010; 6:00 AM ET"?

Posted by: GasFace | August 30, 2010 10:19 PM | Report abuse

Go get 'em D Hall. Cowgirls beware.

Posted by: ZMANN84 | August 31, 2010 6:16 AM | Report abuse

HTF can you post something at 10:17 PM on August 30 with a file date of "August 31, 2010; 6:00 AM ET"?


Posted by: GasFace | August 30, 2010 10:19 PM


If their system is anything like any other run-of-the-mill blog, you can actually input the file date. It's usually there so that you can post stuff at a later time.

I sure hope DHall is every bit as effective this year as he has been for me on Madden so far...dude has 5 picks in the first 4 games...

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 31, 2010 6:30 AM | Report abuse

Here's Keim's quick hits from yesterday:

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/sports/blogs/redskins-confidential/Redskins-quick-hitters-83010-101826663.html

Notable quote from Shanahan:

“The worst thing people do is keep a draft pick just to keep a draft pick,” he said. “If 50 percent of your draft choices make a team, you’ve had a heck of a draft.”

Something to bear in mind when some of RI Nation starts popping off about how we only have two draft picks making the team this year...

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 31, 2010 6:48 AM | Report abuse


Posted this one last night. My how time flies.

Michael Westbrook and Joey Galloway were first round draft picks in 1995. It was Westbrook taken at #4 by Washington and Galloway at # 8 by Seattle.

Posted by: hessone | August 31, 2010 7:11 AM | Report abuse

What does "forcing Dallas to prep for Grossman" entail? Extra tip drills for the D-backs and fumble recovery drills for the D-Lineman?

Posted by: MColeman51 | August 31, 2010 7:17 AM | Report abuse


brown, so with our 2 draft picks next year, if 1 makes the team it's a successful draft, right ? LMAO

Allen has some work to do in order to stockpile some picks. Got any ideas ?

Posted by: hessone | August 31, 2010 7:24 AM | Report abuse

LOL MColeman...in all honesty, it seems to me that if Dallas spends only 30 mins in meetings going over Rexy's tendencies (yes, he does have a few good ones), it's 30 mins less they'll have to spend on going over McNabb's. I know it's not like they hadn't seen McNabb before, but they haven't seen McNabb in this offense either.

Hess, hindsight being 20/20 (or 50/50 if you're Spurrier), looks like we would have been much better off taking Galloway back then. Probably wouldn't have had that awful 10 game losing streak to Dall-ass if he was playing on our side instead of theirs around the turn of the century...

It's still pretty funny that while Galloway is still hanging around 15 years later, Westbrook is getting his taint handed to him in mixed martial arts.

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 31, 2010 7:28 AM | Report abuse

Arizona coaching staff has come up with the perfect way to play against DHall.

They're going to line up a few long-legged cheerleaders along the sidelines -- in heels. DHall will be so intimidated he won't know which way to turn.

Then the stadium staff will start some music and the cheerleaders will roll into a new dance routine that they've developed especially for the occasion -- called the "Double Move."

Next effect: in addition to being badly intimidated, the Dude will be standing there looking like a fool -- as he bites on the Double Move and gets faked out of his own jock strap.

Posted by: Vic1 | August 31, 2010 7:37 AM | Report abuse

Hess, I think Shanahan was referring more to when you have 4 or more picks, particularly when most of those picks come later like ours did this year. Even if you go back and look at teams that draft well (Pittsburgh, Indy, NE), what Shanahan is saying holds true.

To answer your question, not sure how we can stockpile picks...we don't have many tradeable pieces here, plus player value seems to be all outta whack now (considering how we got 3 starters via trade this year for essentially 2nd, 3rd, and 4th round picks). As of now, I can only see us using that 1st rounder to trade down and get more picks...depending on how that draft shakes out, I'm not sure how good an idea that will/won't be.

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 31, 2010 7:39 AM | Report abuse

"Michael Westbrook and Joey Galloway were both first round draft picks in 1995."

There were some interesting players in that draft.

Let's take a look:

Antonio Freeman
Steve McNair--tragic death
Warren Sapp--HOF'er?
Ty Law--still playing
Korey Stringer--died in practice
Derrick Brooks--HOF'er?
Cory Raymer--redskin center
Todd Collins--still playing
Rich Owens--redksin linebacker
Sam Shade--redskin safetty
Terrell Davis--HOF'er?


....and the #1 pick in that draft?:

Ki-Jana Carter--memba him?

The Bengals have dedicated a 'bust' to signify his career.

'Cuz that's what it was.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 31, 2010 7:42 AM | Report abuse

Ooops: I meant Kerry Collins, not Todd.

One guy was a player, the other, a professional clipboard holder.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 31, 2010 7:45 AM | Report abuse

Moe, Carter actually played a pretty solid role here for Marty back in '01...really good backup for Stephen Davis that year.

Not sure why you have ?s behind Sapp and Brooks as HoFers...those guys are locks to get in, IMO.

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 31, 2010 7:52 AM | Report abuse

brownwood

"Not sure why you have ?s behind Sapp and Brooks as HoFers...those guys are locks to get in, IMO."

They should get in as should John Lynch and Ronde Barber.

We forgotten all about how good the Bucs D--featuring the "Tampa-2" was during that time.

But what about T Davis?: is he a HOF'er?

I think he'll get in, but folks will howl that he really doesn't have the numbers:

Compare

Terrell Davis
Rushing Yards 7,607 Average 4.6 Touchdowns 60

Clinton Portis
Rushing yards 9,676 Rushing average 4.5 Rushing TDs 73

And CP has roughly 3-4 years on his body.

If CP averages a 1,000 yards (and that's possible) during that time, he's staring 11 to 12,000 yards.

That's Emmitt Smith, Walter Payton territory.

If T Davis gets in, then, should CP?

I'd say that's a tough call.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 31, 2010 8:07 AM | Report abuse

If CP gets number in WP/ES range, he's going in - stuporbowel or not...

Posted by: DikShuttle | August 31, 2010 8:14 AM | Report abuse

Compare

Terrell Davis
Rushing Yards 7,607 Average 4.6 Touchdowns 60

Clinton Portis
Rushing yards 9,676 Rushing average 4.5 Rushing TDs 73

And CP has roughly 3-4 years on his body.

If CP averages a 1,000 yards (and that's possible) during that time, he's staring 11 to 12,000 yards.

That's Emmitt Smith, Walter Payton territory.

If T Davis gets in, then, should CP?

I'd say that's a tough call.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 31, 2010 8:07 AM | Report abuse

Just two more years from Portis at 1200 and he is at 12K for his career. If he can pull that off and we see a couple deep playoff runs, he is definitely up for HOF consideration.

A couple big IFs.....but I'll be happy to watch them happen. Hopefully CP is thinking legacy.

Posted by: TheDirtySanchez | August 31, 2010 8:19 AM | Report abuse

Moe, to me personally, I don't even talk about a guy as a HoFer unless he's enjoyed some longevity and for TD he didn't play nearly long enough to warrant HoF consideration, IMO. Great player during the time he played...just wasn't great for long enough in my book.

CP is an interesting case...he's put up numbers, and God knows he's got the personality to win over the media schlubs who vote. But I think the fact that he's never won anything will hurt in the final analysis. If he gets a SB here and is a major player in that effort, I could see him getting some HoF voter love, but not if we have another string of 8-8 seasons.

Plus take into account the Redskin bias...I mean, if Art Monk and Russ Grimm (great players who won MULTIPLE SBs) have to wait as long as they did, you gotta figure anyone who's played for us in the Snyder Era have NO shot whatsoever...

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 31, 2010 8:22 AM | Report abuse

dikshuttle

"If CP gets number in WP/ES range, he's going in - stuporbowel or not..."


Well, if he gets 1,100 in rushing over the next two seasons--totally doable--he's got 11,000 yards.

That puts him with John Riggins at 11,300.

I wonder, though, if he has the kind of durability to get well beyond that.

Presently, LaDanian Tomlinson is the gold standard of still active backs at 12,440 yards.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 31, 2010 8:25 AM | Report abuse

Davis is a tough decision. Didn't play long plus, he had the advantage of defenses being forced to respect the pass with Elway back there.
He was good, don't get me wrong, but the deck was certainly stacked in his favor.
What about Sean Taylor? Very short career but he made an impact while he was here and would have most certainly garnered acceptance had his career not been cut short.
Probably didnt play long enough though.

Posted by: westjr88 | August 31, 2010 8:25 AM | Report abuse

Plus take into account the Redskin bias...I mean, if Art Monk and Russ Grimm (great players who won MULTIPLE SBs) have to wait as long as they did, you gotta figure anyone who's played for us in the Snyder Era have NO shot whatsoever...

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 31, 2010 8:22 AM

How quickly we forget! Bruce Smith went in on the first ballot. Lotta Redskins love out there.

Posted by: beep-beep | August 31, 2010 8:27 AM | Report abuse

Can only imagine what CP26's induction ceremony speech would sound like...

"I'd like to thank all the haters, for giving me the inspiration...

...and all the coaches, for letting me do it my own fing... in my own way... in my own time...

I'd expecially like to give a shout out to all my peeps from da U...

...and to Dan Snyder, for getting my pockets straight..."

Posted by: Vic1 | August 31, 2010 8:30 AM | Report abuse

beep, Bruce Smith isn't a Redskin...dude was on loan from the Bills.

westjr, don't let the burgundy and gold glasses and Taylor's premature/tragic death skew your view of ST21...there is literally NO chance he's a HoFer. How you even bring that up is beyond belief...

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 31, 2010 8:35 AM | Report abuse

beep, Bruce Smith isn't a Redskin...dude was on loan from the Bills.

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 31, 2010 8:35 AM

Hey, if you look hard enough on the web you can find pictures of him in a Redskins uni. This was Snyder's first big signing and he's in the HOF. After that, Snyder kind of lost it.

Posted by: beep-beep | August 31, 2010 8:39 AM | Report abuse

Vic, you give Portis too much credit...those were sentences...

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 31, 2010 8:40 AM | Report abuse

beep, Bruce Smith isn't a Redskin...dude was on loan from the Bills.

westjr, don't let the burgundy and gold glasses and Taylor's premature/tragic death skew your view of ST21...there is literally NO chance he's a HoFer. How you even bring that up is beyond belief...

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 31, 2010 8:35 AM

Went on the HOF site a few weeks back, and noticed that every team a player played for kinda gets credit for having a HOF'er in their totals...didn't realize that...always thought that only one team got the credit...like the team they retired with?

Posted by: PlayAction | August 31, 2010 8:41 AM | Report abuse

"Plus take into account the Redskin bias..."

Redskin media bias comes in two ways:

a. media types down grade two of our Super Bowls by saying we only got into the big game during strike years (so, why doesn't that apply to the teams we beat?)

b. the media never cites the great 1991 Wshington Redskin team as one of the league's all-time best.

That team scored tons o' points, lost two regular season games by a total of less than 5 points and featured an excellent defense.

We hear all day about the Niners, Bears, Giants, and Cowboy teams from the mid to late '80s.

But hardly do they ever point out the excellence of St Joe, the Hogs, D Green, A Monk, and others.

So, I guess I have to do it:

HTTR!!!

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 31, 2010 8:49 AM | Report abuse

Went on the HOF site a few weeks back, and noticed that every team a player played for kinda gets credit for having a HOF'er in their totals...didn't realize that...always thought that only one team got the credit...like the team they retired with?

Posted by: PlayAction | August 31, 2010 8:41 AM


That's because football isn't like baseball where you have to induct a player's actual jersey and you "go into the HoF as a (insert team name here)". Pro football gives you a bust and it lists all the teams you played for. But everyone knows where you earned that bust...not everyone is Rod Woodson or Deion Sanders, guys who earned their HoF credentials with multiple teams. If Bruce Smith retired in lieu of going to Washington, I'd bet he'd still be in Canton.

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 31, 2010 8:50 AM | Report abuse

Went on the HOF site a few weeks back, and noticed that every team a player played for kinda gets credit for having a HOF'er in their totals...didn't realize that...always thought that only one team got the credit...like the team they retired with?

Posted by: PlayAction | August 31, 2010 8:41 AM


That's because football isn't like baseball where you have to induct a player's actual jersey and you "go into the HoF as a (insert team name here)". Pro football gives you a bust and it lists all the teams you played for. But everyone knows where you earned that bust...not everyone is Rod Woodson or Deion Sanders, guys who earned their HoF credentials with multiple teams. If Bruce Smith retired in lieu of going to Washington, I'd bet he'd still be in Canton.

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 31, 2010 8:50 AM

Yeah...well was in an argument with your usual idiodic ravens fan up here...going over their lack of any significant history...no HOF'ers etc...and damn if Woodsons name wasn't there haha...oh well.

Posted by: PlayAction | August 31, 2010 8:56 AM | Report abuse

And CP has roughly 3-4 years on his body.

If CP averages a 1,000 yards (and that's possible) during that time, he's staring 11 to 12,000 yards.

That's Emmitt Smith, Walter Payton territory.

If T Davis gets in, then, should CP?

I'd say that's a tough call.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 31, 2010 8:07 AM | Report abuse
_________

I've been preaching this for a couple years now. In my opinion, CP will need the 11-12,000 yards, as you say, but he'll also need another pro bowl or two and to have a playoff "moment" or two that writers will remember in order to get in.

TD doesn't have the numbers, but he did have that 2,000 yard season that writers will remember, so I'd say he at least has a decent shot at it.

Posted by: skinsfan713 | August 31, 2010 8:57 AM | Report abuse

bias against the redskins might continue to slip with Paul Zimmerman, from SI not voting any longer due to his sickness. He was one of the fore-most opponents against Monk in the HOF. No surprise, that he was a giants beat writer for a great number of years, when Monk was playing.....He also stated when talking about Monk, something along the lines of him catching 800 8-yard out patterns.....if it was that easy, why didn't they stop it...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 31, 2010 8:57 AM | Report abuse

Good stuff Moe...people overlook the fact that the Skins would have been "the team of the 80s" were it not for the 49ers impressive run. Plus people who discount the first two SBs because they were strike years are idiots...if anything, it proves how great Gibbs 1.0/Beathard truly were.

But hey...if those teams were frontrunning, hype-machines instead of the lovable underdog, I'm sure many of us wouldn't be Skins fans...

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 31, 2010 8:57 AM | Report abuse

Davis is a tough decision. Didn't play long plus, he had the advantage of defenses being forced to respect the pass with Elway back there.
He was good, don't get me wrong, but the deck was certainly stacked in his favor.
What about Sean Taylor? Very short career but he made an impact while he was here and would have most certainly garnered acceptance had his career not been cut short.
Probably didnt play long enough though.

Posted by: westjr88 | August 31, 2010 8:25 AM | Report abuse
____

In my opinion, ST21 (RIP) certainly had the talent for the HOF, but his career was tragically cut way too short to have any chance at all. Especially as a safety.

Posted by: skinsfan713 | August 31, 2010 8:59 AM | Report abuse

bias against the redskins might continue to slip with Paul Zimmerman, from SI not voting any longer due to his sickness. He was one of the fore-most opponents against Monk in the HOF. No surprise, that he was a giants beat writer for a great number of years, when Monk was playing.....He also stated when talking about Monk, something along the lines of him catching 800 8-yard out patterns.....if it was that easy, why didn't they stop it...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 31, 2010 8:57 AM | Report abuse
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If I recall, Zimmerman wasn't even particularly gracious when he decided to finaly vote Art in. I remember his column that week to be something along the lines of, "I'm tired of hearing about him, you Redskins fans win, I'll give up and vote for him". He seemed to always have it out for the 'Skins. At least Peter King appeared to finally understand how great Art really was, after all the years of campaigning against him.

Posted by: skinsfan713 | August 31, 2010 9:04 AM | Report abuse

Good point, Greg...I don't wish death on many people, but I can tell you with certainty that "Dr. Z" is near the top of my list. A-holes like that guy are a danger to themselves and others...

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 31, 2010 9:05 AM | Report abuse

If I recall, Zimmerman wasn't even particularly gracious when he decided to finaly vote Art in...

Posted by: skinsfan713 | August 31, 2010 9:04 AM


We wasn't...that d-bag wouldn't find graciousness with a GPS. He's the most compelling argument I've seen against having sportswriters vote for HoF in any sport...that level of blatant bias is galling. I mean, how can you not see that the process is flawed if guys are getting in the HoF simply because some a-hole sportswriter is sick of seeing a guy's name on the ballot every year?

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 31, 2010 9:12 AM | Report abuse

PFT is tooting it's horn about Darren Sharper being a possible team cut. He's got a bum knee but I think he'd be one hell of a nice addition to the Skins secondary. Thoughts?

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | August 31, 2010 9:22 AM | Report abuse

BEEP

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 31, 2010 9:47 AM | Report abuse

Just a little perspective...Emmitt has 18,355 rushing yards and 21,564 total. CP's not approaching that territory without an oxygen tank and a sherpa.

Posted by: SMACK1 | August 31, 2010 9:50 AM | Report abuse

westjr, don't let the burgundy and gold glasses and Taylor's premature/tragic death skew your view of ST21...there is literally NO chance he's a HoFer. How you even bring that up is beyond belief...

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 31, 2010 8:35 AM | Report abuse

I know, brown. I wasn't really arguing for him. More or less wondering if he would have been at that level had he played 10-12 yrs.

Posted by: westjr88 | August 31, 2010 10:23 AM | Report abuse

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