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Posted at 8:53 AM ET, 12/31/2010

Haslett: Hall's Pro Bowl selection was 'well deserved'

By Jason Reid

On Internet message boards and sports-talk radio shows, some Redskins fans have criticized the selection of cornerback DeAngelo Hall to the Pro Bowl.

But defensive coordinator Jim Haslett believes the voters got it right.

"It's well deserved," Haslett said of Hall's third Pro Bowl selection. "He makes a lot of plays.

"I told him before the season, 'You'll get somewhere from six to 10 interceptions in this scheme [Washington's 3-4] and you can be consistent the rest of the time you're here running it.'  I thought he should have had 10. I told you that earlier. He should have had 10 interceptions. He's perfect for this."

Hall provided the Redskins' only touchdown in a season-opening victory against the Dallas Cowboys after stripping the ball from running back Tashard Choice and returning the fumble 32 yards as time expired in the first half.

In Week 7 against the Chicago Bears, Hall tied the NFL single-game record with four interceptions -- including one he caught one-handed and returned 92 yards for a touchdown. And Hall has scored two defensive touchdowns for the first time in his career.

But critics of Hall's selection contend he also has given up too many big plays and is not a true "shutdown corner." And Hall -- tied for second in the league with six interceptions -- has only had one interception since his spectacular outing against Chicago.

Shutdown corner is a nice concept, but the term really no longer applies in today's NFL. With the complexities of the passing game and the league's offense-friendly rules, it is almost impossible for any cornerback, even the best of the best, to truly shut down a star wide receiver throughout a game.

Hall is a risk-taker. He will gamble in an attempt to make big plays, and he will lose at times. But he's also the Redskins' top playmaker on defense, and Washington has benefited from his ability to go get the football.

"He's got great vision, he's not afraid to take some chances," Haslett said. "Sometimes, he gets you on the run. The thing people forget is he had 104 tackles. I think the closest guy was half in the National Football League. He had double the tackles than any other corner in the National Football League.

"He had two touchdowns, a couple of fumbles, and a couple of forced fumbles. I think all of that adds up. It's not just that you see a corner miss a tackle and you're saying, 'Oh, he missed a tackle.' You see all the other things."

By Jason Reid  | December 31, 2010; 8:53 AM ET
Categories:  DeAngelo Hall, Jim Haslett  
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Comments


Posted by: hessone | December 31, 2010 8:50 AM

And don't forget about the ever popular stinky pinky.

Posted by: PlayAction | December 31, 2010 8:58 AM |
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hey, playaction just made a hinky pinky with a stinky pinky.

Posted by: hessone | December 31, 2010 9:06 AM | Report abuse

On reflection, it wasn't RedDMV but MistaMoe who explained it to me up here. Something about "you'll see the difference between large tail and hot tail when they turn the lights on in the club at closing time."

Posted by: beep-beep | December 31, 2010 8:50 AM

Unfortunately my ADD doesn't allow me to read past three lines of either of their postings...so I guess I missed all that...but I do prefer hot tail.

Haha hess...well I suck at haiku...maybe hinky pinky's are my calling?

Posted by: PlayAction | December 31, 2010 9:09 AM | Report abuse

104 tackles? Really?

Posted by: PlayAction | December 31, 2010 9:13 AM | Report abuse

well I suck at haiku...maybe hinky pinky's are my calling?

Posted by: PlayAction | December 31, 2010 9:09 AM | Report abuse

suck you..at haiku?

Posted by: frediefritz | December 31, 2010 9:16 AM | Report abuse

"The thing people forget is he had 104 tackles."

I don't know if that's something you should be bragging about Jim.

Linebacker, yes. CB, well not so much....

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | December 31, 2010 9:17 AM | Report abuse


it's not a good sign that your corner is making that many tackles or the DC is brushing off the ones he didn't make

Posted by: hessone | December 31, 2010 9:18 AM | Report abuse

Good point in this piece about the misnomer of a "shutdown" corner in today's pass-happy NFL. Skins need to sign Carlos Rogers and also make a play for former Skin Champ Bailey. Plus my daughter has an old 24 Champ jersey so I want to make that relevant and legit again!

Posted by: gilk | December 31, 2010 9:20 AM | Report abuse

Plus my daughter has an old 24 Champ jersey so I want to make that relevant and legit again!

Posted by: gilk | December 31, 2010 9:20 AM

Yes, but only if he can wrestle it away from James Davis.

Posted by: PlayAction | December 31, 2010 9:25 AM | Report abuse


@gilk

bad blood between champ and snyder will prevent champ from signing with the redskins.

I don't see any FA's wanting to sign with the redskins since they don't have an indoor practice facility or a heated practice field

Posted by: hessone | December 31, 2010 9:26 AM | Report abuse

bad blood between champ and snyder will prevent champ from signing with the redskins.

I don't see any FA's wanting to sign with the redskins since they don't have an indoor practice facility or a heated practice field

Posted by: hessone | December 31, 2010 9:26 AM

What bad blood between Snyder and Champ? Champ left because the Redskins were a dysfunctional laughingstock at the time, and while not a whole lot has changed since then, two things work in our favor: A) the Broncos are one of the few franchises more dysfunctional than we are and B) the guy that helped lure Champ to Denver is now the HC in Washington. Unless Champ had some sort of issue with Shanahan, it stands to reason he'd be willing to play here again.

Whether Baltimore or Houston or New England are more inviting is another issue altogether...

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 31, 2010 9:33 AM | Report abuse

Champ is going to go to a place where he can try to win a ring.

WTH is a 32-year old Bailey going to be interested in here?

We aren't going to pay him, and we are in the "prologue" stage of what is going to be a painful rebuilding process. Considering how eager he seemed to leave DC, I don't think there's any sentimental lure to return.

Posted by: p1funk | December 31, 2010 9:39 AM | Report abuse

it's not a good sign that your corner is making that many tackles or the DC is brushing off the ones he didn't make

Posted by: hessone | December 31, 2010 9:18 AM | Report abuse


Maybe it's not a good sign for the front 7, but it strains reason to say that it's a bad sign for a CB to have a high tackle count.

Seriously, last year Hall gets pilloried b/c he "can't tackle". Now that he's one of the NFL leaders among DBs in tackles, he gets slammed for it.

Haters can at least be consistent. Pick your ignorant reason to hate and stick with it.

Posted by: p1funk | December 31, 2010 9:44 AM | Report abuse

Pick your ignorant reason to hate and stick with it.

Posted by: p1funk | December 31, 2010 9:44 AM

I hate spaghetti...for no good reason.

Posted by: PlayAction | December 31, 2010 9:48 AM | Report abuse


Maybe it's not a good sign for the front 7, but it strains reason to say that it's a bad sign for a CB to have a high tackle count.

Seriously, last year Hall gets pilloried b/c he "can't tackle". Now that he's one of the NFL leaders among DBs in tackles, he gets slammed for it.

Haters can at least be consistent. Pick your ignorant reason to hate and stick with it.

Posted by: p1funk | December 31, 2010 9:44 AM |
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p1, sorry I referenced your favorite redskin in stating the fact that you don't want your corner, no matter what his name is, making that many tackles a season.

and brushing off missed tackles is soft, just like haslett's defense is soft.

Posted by: hessone | December 31, 2010 9:51 AM | Report abuse

Hall has 89 tackles

61 solo

28 assists

Posted by: PlayAction | December 31, 2010 10:00 AM | Report abuse

p1, sorry I referenced your favorite redskin in stating the fact that you don't want your corner, no matter what his name is, making that many tackles a season.

and brushing off missed tackles is soft, just like haslett's defense is soft.

Posted by: hessone | December 31, 2010 9:51 AM | Report abuse


He's not my fave Skin. Probably not even in my top 5.

It just strains credulity that I'm constantly up here defending one of our own against the team's own fans - you'd think that we're talking about Terence Newman or Mike Jenkins.

After a dismal season (again), we've got a bright spot - DHall getting recognized for the Pro Bowl. You'd think that would be something nice.

Instead the "fans" use DHall's Pro Bowl berth as a collective pi$$-pot.

I just don't get it.

Posted by: p1funk | December 31, 2010 10:01 AM | Report abuse


Hall has 89 tackles

61 solo

28 assists

Posted by: PlayAction | December 31, 2010 10:00 AM |
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haslett still counting with his fingers

Posted by: hessone | December 31, 2010 10:03 AM | Report abuse


I just don't get it.

Posted by: p1funk | December 31, 2010 10:01 AM |
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so defensive, let me start over p1,

an nfl team shouldn't have a weak front seven, which creats an abundance of tackles for your corner to make, who should be consentrating on coverage and making an interception occasionally.

missing a tackle isn't important, but making the pro blow is

jwhitten sends dhall his best

Posted by: hessone | December 31, 2010 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Maybe it's not a good sign for the front 7, but it strains reason to say that it's a bad sign for a CB to have a high tackle count.

Seriously, last year Hall gets pilloried b/c he "can't tackle". Now that he's one of the NFL leaders among DBs in tackles, he gets slammed for it.

Haters can at least be consistent. Pick your ignorant reason to hate and stick with it.

Posted by: p1funk | December 31, 2010 9:44 AM |

It's absolutely befuddling isn't it? Why oh why do our own fans bash our own players, coaches, owner, and team
to no end. I mean, a little criticism is certainly justified (especially when it comes to owner) but to do it so often and so consistently is beyond me.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | December 31, 2010 10:14 AM | Report abuse

p1funk,

You make a good point. All year the fans on this board rip the guys on the team for not being perfect. Every position gets ripped and traded for draft picks because of dropped balls, penalties, and a lack of wins.

Moss has 84 catches and everyday someone on here is wishing him well at his next stop. McNabb has over three thousand yards passing and he's the reason the team sucks.

Sometimes, I think the fan base would be fine with 4 to 6 wins if we had one guy with ridiculous stats.

Posted by: bangkokben | December 31, 2010 10:15 AM | Report abuse


It's absolutely befuddling isn't it? Why oh why do our own fans bash our own players, coaches, owner, and team
to no end. I mean, a little criticism is certainly justified (especially when it comes to owner) but to do it so often and so consistently is beyond me.


Posted by: scampbell1975 | December 31, 2010 10:14 AM |
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it's not as bad as you calling posters mothers and girlfriends oral experts now does it ?

Posted by: hessone | December 31, 2010 10:20 AM | Report abuse

it's not as bad as you calling posters mothers and girlfriends oral experts now does it ?
ar worse. One is probably the truth

Posted by: hessone | December 31, 2010 10:20 AM

It's actually far worse. One is probably the truth while the other is angry fans just talking out of their ass. I'll let you figure out which is which.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | December 31, 2010 10:27 AM | Report abuse

bad blood between champ and snyder will prevent champ from signing with the redskins.

Posted by: hessone | December 31, 2010 9:26 AM | Rep
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i don't think so...Synder's like the Don King of the NFL..he make deals...besides that was like 8 years ago anyway...

Posted by: BootneyFarnsworth | December 31, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 31, 2010 9:33 AM
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agreed..

Posted by: BootneyFarnsworth | December 31, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

so defensive, let me start over p1,

an nfl team shouldn't have a weak front seven, which creats an abundance of tackles for your corner to make, who should be consentrating on coverage and making an interception occasionally.

missing a tackle isn't important, but making the pro blow is

jwhitten sends dhall his best

Posted by: hessone | December 31, 2010 10:14 AM | Report abuse


So idiotic, hess. Let me start over.

If you want to bash the front 7 for being bad at what they do, then go for it.

But to criticize the DB who is mopping up their mistakes and actually making tackles on the ball carrier is beyond stupid.

Obviously this 32-ranked group has alot of work to do with regards to team defense.

But a CB like Hall who is out on an island, making tackles, getting picks and PDs, forcing turnovers and scoring TDs has every right to be recognized for his outstanding play.

By your logic, Peyton Manning shouldn't see the Pro Bowl b/c the COlts running game sucks, which forces him to throw the ball alot, and that creates a lop-sided statistical outcome in his favor.

Posted by: p1funk | December 31, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Here's another thing that is beyond me. Why do I hear people pining for the return of Champ? Isn't one of the main complaints about this team that we bring over the hill, past their prime, oft injured players and filling a roster spot that a young, up and comer could be filling? So now we encorse doing it again? Ridiculously fickle and hypocritical fans.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | December 31, 2010 10:31 AM | Report abuse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyqUj3PGHv4

I will do this if we beat the Giants on Sunday.

Posted by: iH8dallas | December 31, 2010 10:31 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: bangkokben | December 31, 2010 10:15 AM | Report abuse

Add Cooley to that list.

Here's a guy who made the ProBowl under Zorn...ZORN.

And anytime the dude has a drop, you see 10 posts screaming for a trade.

Posted by: p1funk | December 31, 2010 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Congratulations to DeAngelo Hall. Awesome season on a poor defense. The six picks were fun. The TD against Dallas made me jump up down in my living room. The excellent tackling is what got him into the pro-bowl. He really owned his side of the field. I look forward to more great plays next year as he continues to be leader for an improving defense.

- blobdog

Posted by: blobdog | December 31, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Here's another thing that is beyond me. Why do I hear people pining for the return of Champ? Isn't one of the main complaints about this team that we bring over the hill, past their prime, oft injured players and filling a roster spot that a young, up and comer could be filling? So now we encorse doing it again? Ridiculously fickle and hypocritical fans.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | December 31, 2010 10:31 AM
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You are so right!...I was memorized by Champ for a minute there...but we need young guns..

Posted by: BootneyFarnsworth | December 31, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: scampbell1975 | December 31, 2010 10:31 AM

True...but we can save a few bucks by recycling our old jerseys.

Posted by: PlayAction | December 31, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Here's a guy who made the ProBowl under Zorn...ZORN.

And anytime the dude has a drop, you see 10 posts screaming for a trade.

Posted by: p1funk | December 31, 2010 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Emotional hysterics and Redski haterade is the only explanation. I swear these people with zero football knowledge think they should be the next GM. Thank God none of us are.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | December 31, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

True...but we can save a few bucks by recycling our old jerseys.

Posted by: PlayAction | December 31, 2010 10:36 AM |

Let 'em go my man...let 'em go.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | December 31, 2010 10:39 AM | Report abuse

from Brian Burke:

McNabb played as well as could have been expected given the surrounding team, and to hold him accountable for the offense's disappointing season is a mistake.

This is a fine observation and somewhat true.

Which is why in the absence of good ideas, we offer a provocative one.

The Trade:

The redskins trade Donovan McNabb and the 5th round pick in 2012 to the Arizona Cardinals in order to flip from picks 12-17 to pick 6.

With the 6th pick, the redskins can choose from:

Mallett

Newton

Fairley

Locker

The cards, then, put a vet starter in an offense featuring Fitzgerald, Wells, Breaston, and a solid offensive line.

Ken Whisenhunt might see in McNabb what he saw in the from New York Giants damaged Kurt Warner, and re-fashion his offense to meet his, McNabb's skills.

Folks, like me, who mock McNabb as a redskin do so while also acknowledging that dude might have one or two more years or lightning in his professional bottle.

Like K Warner did.

McNabb can't carry an offense anymore, but with playmakers, can help elevate one.

And so, the Shanahans should view McNabb as an asset--not a player to just toss aside out of hubris.

Moving up to a top 6 pick would allow the team to either take a top defensive lineman--a need--or a new starting quarterback--the other need in light of Rex Grossman's mediocre play.

The Trade, then, is a no-brainer.

That is, if you have brains.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 31, 2010 10:42 AM | Report abuse

But to criticize the DB who is mopping up their mistakes and actually making tackles on the ball carrier is beyond stupid.

Posted by: p1funk | December 31, 2010 10:29 AM

If a cornerback is making a lot of tackles because he's mopping up after a bad tackling front 7, that's a strength of his game that deserves to be lauded.

If a cornerback is making a lot of tackles because offenses see him as weak link of the defense and throw at him all the time, that's another matter. (For instance, Revis has only 32 tackles)

Which is the case with D. Hall in 2010? I think it's a little of both. Fair or unfair?

Posted by: MColeman51 | December 31, 2010 10:45 AM | Report abuse

People rip this team because we have had pretty much nothing to cheer about save 1999, 2005 and 2007 in the last 20 years and 2 playoff wins since the last Super Bowl. The fans keep coming back year after year despite being pissed all over by this franchise.

Posted by: ToddStinkston | December 31, 2010 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Let 'em go my man...let 'em go.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | December 31, 2010 10:39 AM

Haha...joking scamp...I just now remembered all the peeps running around the stadium with their incorrectly spelled #24 "Baily" jerseys lol...how do you not notice that when you're buying it.

Posted by: PlayAction | December 31, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Haha...joking scamp...I just now remembered all the peeps running around the stadium with their incorrectly spelled #24 "Baily" jerseys lol...how do you not notice that when you're buying it.

Posted by: PlayAction | December 31, 2010 10:46 AM |

Maybe that's the real reason he wanted to leave.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | December 31, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse

By Jason Reid
On Internet message boards and sports-talk radio shows, some Redskins fans have criticized the selection of cornerback DeAngelo Hall to the Pro Bowl.

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Another day on RI and I could of closed my eyes and thrown a dart and hit a posting of p1funk defending the Hall selection.

P1Funk, were you his roommate at VPI? Classmate in Chesapeake? Agent? Neighbor? If none of the above.. Please give it a rest.. He made the Pro-Bowl.. its done, the voting is over...

Posted by: onanygivensunday | December 31, 2010 10:59 AM | Report abuse

The only qb deswerving of first round is luck.

Mallet, newton, locker are all solid replacements but to me remind me of campbell

Shanny realizes after his first yr the fan base needs a winner n we don't wanna wait

If we can't get luck then I say grab 2 o lineman, someones gotta block

Who knows shanny may plan on using mcnabb next yr

It would make sense, he's our stop gap like I said all long

We build shannys offense while dealing with mcnabb not being the future, build both sides of the line n then get a qb

Having a great qb is cool but its a lot less cool when he's gotta get up off the ground every play because we can't block for caca

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | December 31, 2010 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Here's another thing that is beyond me. Why do I hear people pining for the return of Champ? ...... Ridiculously fickle and hypocritical fans.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | December 31, 2010 10:31 AM

Well, with Champ, it's nostalgia...which does make one fickle and hypocritical. Hopefully the decision makers don't allow any nostalgia to creep into their thought process. I only want Champ if he's priced right and an effective bridge to a younger team....in other words, part of well thought out plan.

Whenever someone brings up Champ, I can't help but think about his last college game: the 1998 Peach Bowl. Bailey practically beat UVa. single-handedly. Played his usual near perfect game at corner, was very effective as a receiver on probably 25% of Georgia's offensive plays, and was fantastic returning punts and KO's. I was sitting in the stands hating him and marveling at him at the same time. Little did I know he was about to become a Redskin and someone to root for for years to come.

Posted by: MColeman51 | December 31, 2010 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Nice story MC51

Rex Beeps

Posted by: PlayAction | December 31, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse

D Hall won me over this year. After the missed tackle against Jake DelHomme last year, I was pretty down on D Hall. His strip against Dallas and 4 int game against Chicago could have helped propel a better team to more victories. When he misses, he misses badly, but fortunately he has a short memory. D Hall got a passing grade from his evaluators this year. This team needs as many answers as it can get.

Posted by: dannykurland1 | December 31, 2010 11:14 AM | Report abuse


@p1

it's not a good sign that your corner is making that many tackles or the DC is brushing off the ones he didn't make

Posted by: hessone | December 31, 2010 9:18 AM |
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so, tell me where in my post that I bashed dhall.

and you know so much about football, tell me what is fact and what is fiction about my post.

if you're proud of the redskins losing ways, more power to you. don't worry though, allen and shanahan will get us on the right track, considering all the moves they've made so far ar rock solid

I want coaches that don't excuse poor play, and while we're at it, the pro bowl is overrated. just ask the real redskin defender that should be pro bowl bound, london fletcher

Posted by: hessone | December 31, 2010 11:46 AM | Report abuse

If Jim Haslett believes something then history and logic dictate the opposite is a better position to take. The stats speak for themselves. He's been fired NINE times.

D. Hall has allowed more catches/yards than any other corner in professional football this season. Did he gamble and make some plays? Absolutely. Does he deserve to be in the Pro Bowl? Depends on if a consistent player is "best" or if a sporadically flashy player is.

As far as tackles go, the CB should not have that many. That reflects the inadequacies of the base defense.

Seems Haslett's goal was to get D.Hall some takeaways. I'd prefer a top 10 defense as in years past.

Finally, I still find it ironic that last game we played so well on defense with half of the players on the field having minimal "coaching" time with our defensive staff. Any inferences to be drawn?

Posted by: jmueller7 | December 31, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

I think the full context of Haslett's comment was this: "Did you watch this guy play? DeAngelo is the most overrated...Is this on the record?....Oh, it is, okay, well, I think his Pro Bowl selection was well deserved."

Posted by: josettes | January 1, 2011 1:40 AM | Report abuse

I agree with the previous posts that said Hall had too many tackles for a corner. I also agree that a big reason for it was he got beat a lot.
What would be most telling is WHERE ON THE FIELD DID HIS TACKLES OCCUR? LIKE HOW MANY AT OR WITHIN A FEW YDS. THE LINE OF SCRIMMAGE, HOW MANY WITHIN 5-7 YARDS FROM THE LINE, HOW MANY SAY 10-12 YDS, HOW MANY 15 OR MORE YDS.?

The Bears game was special. However, her only had two other picks the rest of the year...this Sunday is still a question?
I recall the game against Dallas deep in Washington`s side of the field..Hall tried to jump in front of Witten, missed and Jason just trotted the last 15 or so yds. into the end zone??
I WILL SAY, HE RARELY DROPS A BALL..UNLIKE ROGERS. CARLOS FINALLY CAUGHT A BALL IN HIS LAST GAME...I THINK HE WAS AS SHOCKED AS THE FANS......

Posted by: blazerguy234 | January 1, 2011 6:33 AM | Report abuse

if mcnabb goes to arizona he will not have much protection because arizona will most likely lose russ grimm. without grimm their offensive line will go downhill just like the steelers o line did when he left there. grimm will most likely be a head coach next year. he has become a great o line coach and now he is one of the top people in line for a head coaching job.

Posted by: rls1041 | January 1, 2011 8:22 AM | Report abuse

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