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Posted at 11:50 AM ET, 12/13/2010

Team still has confidence in Shanahan's plan

By Paul Tenorio

Though the Redskins losses continue to mount this season, the team has confidence in the coaching and schemes of the Mike Shanahan regime. It's the players who are not making "routine plays" in crucial situations, cornerback DeAngelo Hall said after Sunday's game.

The veteran pointed to two of his own mistakes: a dropped interception in the first quarter and a deep reception that he gave up in the second, as evidence of the issue.

"Just routine plays that normally - I ain't going to say normally because we haven't been making them this year - but plays that we should make," Hall said. "Plays we've been coached up to make and that the schemes giving us a chance to make but we're not making them."

That sentiment was echoed by linebacker Chris Wilson, who contributed to the team's litany of errors when he fumbled a squibbed kickoff at the start of the second half.

Wilson tried twice to pick up the ball and return it before attempting to fall on it, and the Buccaneers recovered in Redskins' territory. Tampa Bay turned the fumble into three points when kicker Connor Barth nailed a 44-yard field goal.

"It was a big play, a big deal, coming from a player like myself that considers myself one of the core guys on special teams," Wilson said. "Like I was talking about earlier, about level of expectancy, that's a play that I don't expect to make, as far as in a negative sense. I don't expect to drop the ball and my teammates don't expect me to drop the ball in that type of situation either."

With just three games remaining in the season, Hall emphasized that the team had to remain focused on finishing the season strong. The attitude around the team this season, he said, felt different than at the end of last year.

"You got to keep fighting, like I said before," Hall said. "This ain't a situation where anybody in this locker room is questioning anything, we're just trying to go out there and compete as hard as we can [and] execute the game plan. If the game plan is not right and it's not giving us a chance to succeed, I think you'll be able to see that and we'll be able to let you know, 'Hey it's just not working.' But it's working, it's working. We're out there trying to execute it and like I said, we just didn't make the plays we needed to."

By Paul Tenorio  | December 13, 2010; 11:50 AM ET
Categories:  DeAngelo Hall  
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Comments

Posted by: Alan4 | December 13, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

A couple of your comebacks were ridiculous. You said you didn't see much difference between last year and this year, and I gave you 10 good ones! Sure, the Hip Hip and punter proof video boards were jokes, the others were serious.

It didn't matter who brought in the Bingo Caller, the point is that he's gone! Kyle is a good play caller, we need better players to execute those plays.

You really think Snyder had anything to do with keeping Portis in line? He's been playing and practicing when we wants for years, now Snyder puts a leash on him??? Please...

Haynesworth turned it into a circus, as well as the media, not Shanahan. If Fatty had done what he was supposed to then none of this would have happened. Keep taking up for him though, it makes you look REAL good.

Maybe you should just freeze yourself and be thawed out in the future when we are good again. The rest of us TRUE fans will sit through the good AND the bad of this team. Don't take too long Snyder, he might freezer burn......

Posted by: monk811 | December 13, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: monk811 | December 13, 2010 11:52 AM

Monk, Vinny was the biggest problem last year, and he's gone. I'm please Zorn helped take him down.

Read what's wrong with the Skins above, and compare it to this analysis of Zorn's coaching by someone other than me:

Ron Jaworski : "This change right now [in] the playcalling is unsettling," Jaworski said. "And in preparation for this game, I've gone through every Redskins game. It's not about the playcalling. It just seems to me it's some sort of crutch right now that somebody wants to hang their hat on. It's about the execution of plays that are called. It's that simple."

Posted by: Alan4 | December 13, 2010 12:01 PM | Report abuse

monk, at best I'd say the jury is still out on Kyle's play calling.......

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 13, 2010 12:01 PM | Report abuse

It's commendable that D Hall should man up on some of his own shortcomings -- but am thinking that beyond a basic lack of talent, those responsible for implementing Shanahan's so-called scheme are also suffering from a talentless lack of basics.

Is it too late in the season to take some of these so called players back out the practice field and teach them some basic tackling techniques?

Posted by: Vic1 | December 13, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Justin Blackmon is not any where close to being better than AJ Green or Julio Jones. It is fine to compare Blackmon to Devin Thomas because if you go back and look at what people said about Devin its the same thing. People saw that he had a boat load of talent. He rose up draft boards like crazy, and some even thought he was gonna be a top 15 pick. He was a one year wonder.

Im not saying Blackmon will fail, but there are a couple things I dnt like about him. DUI charges, route running is not that good, and once again he has proven himself for one season. To compare Blackmon to AJ Green and Julio Jones is insane, I dont care what his numbers say.

Posted by: roccoskins | December 13, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

twisi

In the first round it's, early anyways, it's DL, LB, DBs.

I think teams will chase pitchers and catchers, and then think about DL, LBs, and CBs.

I mean if your needs are between Janoris Jenkins (cb) and, say, Ryan Mallet (q-b), in rounds 1-2, I think a team will take the quarterback.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 13, 2010 12:05 PM | Report abuse


Haynesworth turned it into a circus, as well as the media, not Shanahan.

Posted by: monk811 | December 13, 2010 11:52 AM |
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shanahan let the circus develope, after all, he's the head cheese

Posted by: hessone | December 13, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

shanahan let the circus develop, after all, he's the head cheese

Posted by: hessone | December 13, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse
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This organization was a circus when he got here, but because he couldn't instantly shut up the clowns, he 'let the circus develop'. That's just plain not thinking with yer dipstick.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | December 13, 2010 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Greg - I just think the playcalling this year is the least of our worries. Throws in the dirt, dropped balls, bad OLine play, if the players do their jobs then the plays will work.

Alan - I do agree that Vinny was the major problem, but Zorn is only there because of Vinny. Zorn never should have been the HC, he wasn't even ready to be the OC.

I wasn't blaming everything on the playcalling, but that article pointed out what I had said before, we need better players to execute these plays. Another offseason or 2 and we'll be competetive, I just don't see the point in being pesimistic and disecting every little thing wrong with the team. A quick turnaround is not going to happen. A team needs 3-5 years to be rebuilt. Now, somewhere between 2013-2014, that's when a change should be made if we still aren't showing progress.

Posted by: monk811 | December 13, 2010 12:18 PM | Report abuse

noticeably absent any offensive players chiming in on the plan....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 13, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse


This organization was a circus when he got here, but because he couldn't instantly shut up the clowns, he 'let the circus develop'. That's just plain not thinking with yer dipstick.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | December 13, 2010 12:12 PM |
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so you don't think shanahan let the situation fester ?

also, this organization will be a circus until your favorite owner sells the team, but don't let his past record of ownership fool you. shanahan is just like a flashy FA signing, all designed to keep the fan base brainwashed

Posted by: hessone | December 13, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

But I think our priorities have to be grabing a young guard and center in FA, in order to use your 1st and 2nd on a WR and QB.

Posted by: roccoskins | December 13, 2010 10:55 AM | Report abuse

So you're basically ignoring the horrible defense? Nice..

Posted by: ga8085 | December 13, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Haynesworth turned it into a circus, as well as the media, not Shanahan.

Posted by: monk811 | December 13, 2010 11:52 AM |
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shanahan let the circus develope, after all, he's the head cheese

Posted by: hessone | December 13, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

And Haynesworth is the whole cow, and it's hard to move one of them an inch when they are stubborn and don't want to go!

I guess we don't have to worry about it now anyway. We'll get screwed for more millions of $$$$ for his contract next year and hope that we get a 4th rounder for him in a trade. And now he's free to stay out at bars as late as he wants and impregnate more strippers. Way to be a good role model Al!

Posted by: monk811 | December 13, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

I'd go OL in the first Round. We need to bolster our talent and depth there if we ever want to succeed on Offense. Do we need another tackle? If you think Brown is the answer then no, if you think he was a waste of a traded draft pick due to his injuries than yes we do. We need interior linemen too, but I guess you don't waste a 1st round pick on that. We need to get 1 side of the ball fixed. Cant do both in 1 offseason and draft.

Posted by: FedorEm | December 13, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

monk, I expected more as far as play calling goes...this offense runs with a zorn like efficiency....again, with the acumen the coach has, I expected better things....from game 1 thru game 13 the offense has suffered from the same struggles, protecting the qb, scoring points...there's been hardly any adjustments.....disappointment abounds...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 13, 2010 12:30 PM | Report abuse


'Team still has confidence in Shanahan's plan'


Good for them, because Shanahan or not as the head coach, I have ZERO confidence in this team.


*Re-Post*


Anyone who isn't frustrated or has their vagina all itchy over reading comments that express disappointment, pessimism, or plain apathy really needs to put down their pom-poms and get their damn head examined for a past lobotomy procedure. It's like some of you are THAT fhucking brain dead or brainwashed because no one is that delusional. NO WAY!


HOW can ANYONE who's REALLY a FAN just have a ho-hum attitude today is nothing short of BAFFALING to me! I mean, REALLY?!?!?! You're talking about a squad who lost on a gawddamn extra-point AFTER converting a fourth down that resulted in a NEEDED to have TD with NINE seconds left in regulation!?!?!?! WHO DOES THAT?!?!?! This is a team that has PERENNIALLY shown the ability to lose games in this manner -- EVERY gawddamn year! If they're not making piss-poor plays and decisions on the field, then they're making sour dark yellow PISS POOR decisions in hiring coaches and player personnel. It's been like this since BEFORE Snyder and after the 1991 season. For those keeping score, that's damn near TWENTY YEARS!!! And don't bring me W/L's from other teams in that span and personnel and coaching decisions similar to the Redskins. I couldn't give a FHUCK about those teams. I don't follow them, therefore I DO NOT take solace in OTHER teams mistakes!

Sorry for acting like an ass, but damn you gotta wonder, what are the Redskins doing behind the scenes? Are they running some sort of underground kiddie porn ring? Swindling retirees? Abusing special needs kids? Because these sort of mischances only happen to those who deserve it and have it coming -- most of the time.


As far as me, I will NEVER hope the team looses, and I'll ALWAYS hope that they win.

I just don't believe they will win anymore or Sundays. If they do, it's some sort of blind-fools-gold-anomaly. If they loose: Business as usual. I do not believe in 'em. As a fan who wants nothing more than to see them the do well, that absolutely sucks. If you can't believe in the team you root for, what do you have?

Props and praises for you guys who will continue to believe in this team like the gospel. I can't do it [believe] anymore. Doing so is literally bad for your health and will takes years off your life. Guaranteed!

Posted by: RedDMV | December 13, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

I mean if your needs are between Janoris Jenkins (cb) and, say, Ryan Mallet (q-b), in rounds 1-2, I think a team will take the quarterback.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 13, 2010 12:05 PM

True, but if you need D Bowers (DE) or J Jones (WR) you take the more talented player which seems to be Bowers.

Posted by: TWISI | December 13, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

But I think our priorities have to be grabing a young guard and center in FA, in order to use your 1st and 2nd on a WR and QB.

Posted by: roccoskins | December 13, 2010 10:55 AM | Report abuse

So you're basically ignoring the horrible defense? Nice..

Posted by: ga8085 | December 13, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

I think changes at both Guard spots immediately helps out Rabach in the middle, so we can wait to replace him until 2012's draft. G and NT should be the 1st and 2nd round picks (not necessarily in that order), period, end of discussion. Maybe if we trade down once or twice we can then go after WR and QB, but we don't have many picks and our lines are constantly getting dominated.

Posted by: monk811 | December 13, 2010 12:33 PM | Report abuse

I'm slowly coming to the realization that my lucky gameday underwear might not really be so lucky.

Comfy, though.

Posted by: freakzilla | December 13, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

REDSKINS SCHEDULE IMPROMTU JUSTIN BIEBER CONCERT FOR JANUARY 2

ASHBURN, VA -- With three weeks left in the NFL football regular season and several weeks of post-season play to follow, the Washington Redskins already have nothing left to play for and are said to be looking past their final games of the year and into the off-season.

Fortunately, their next two games are on the road -- where the Redskins can stink up somebody else's joint and not have to worry about the financial consequences of mailing in yet another poor performance -- but the final game of the season will take place at home on January 2 against the New York Giants.

And recalling the embarrassment of more than 35,000 empty seats at yesterday's next-to-last home game of the season, team officials are reportedly worried that this season's final home game may reset the modern record for the number of no-shows at an NFL regular season game.

In an effort to stave off league-wide ridicule that would accompany another such "sell out," the Redskins are reportedly pulling out all stops for the last game of the season and scheduling a "free" music concert with international teeny-bop sensation Justin Bieber to take place immediately following the football game.

Bieber is said to be a personal favorite of team owner Dan Snyder –- who is said to be Bieber's "biggest fan" and reportedly calls him “a talented singer and musician, a perennial fan favorite, and someone I can look up to.”

Essentially, one ticket will be good for both events -- but here's the kicker: the stadium gates will be closed and locked at the end of the football game's first quarter -- and won't be opened again until the conclusion of the concert.

According to a team official, "If you want to see Justin Bieber, you're going to have to sit through the Redskins game, and vice versa."

He added, "We're sorry if some people might feel inconvenienced by it all, but we figured it's the only way we might be able to recoup all of some of the money we've wasted this year on all of this stale beer and rotten stadium food we have left over from such a disappointing season."


Posted by: Vic1 | December 13, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse


@BeantownGreg1

I agree with you on all your comments greg. I know you and many other posters disagree with me, but snyder is the major problem with this team. he's the one who does the hiring and firing. why does he get a pass ? is it becuase he wants to "win badly and spends tons of money" ?again, he's the one who put this HC and GM in place and so far they get failing grades across the board.


Posted by: hessone | December 13, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse

disappointing season, but still believe appointment of Shanahan and Allen was a great move that will work out in the long run (hopefully not too long though)

Posted by: VerizonCenterResident | December 13, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

While play calling wasn't the reason we lost yesterday, it was the key factor in the offense being anemic. The failure to adjust to the oppositions' adjustments is red flag. I don't know if it's, ego, lack of trust in the players on the field, or lack of experience, but it's definitely something they better address in offseason.

The Tampa DL read the all the keys from the formations the Redskins gave in the first half, adjusted and basically shot both A gaps or came off the 70 edge to stop the running game, then pinned theirs ears back to disrupt the pass protection. The Redskins did not change anything, Sellars and Cooley for this game, gave the formations and Scheme away, and I recognized that from my couch after the third offensive series.

While I've noticed their formations have changed every game, which is why the first couple of series are always pretty good, they don't change for rest of the game. Also with all the formation changes the do from game, they've only run about 25 different plays the whole season. Which makes them by the third quarter predictable. Open up the playbook Kyle!

Posted by: clark202 | December 13, 2010 12:47 PM | Report abuse


I'm slowly coming to the realization that my lucky gameday underwear might not really be so lucky.

Comfy, though.

Posted by: freakzilla | December 13, 2010 12:36 PM |
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maybe they need washed

Posted by: hessone | December 13, 2010 12:47 PM | Report abuse

But I think our priorities have to be grabing a young guard and center in FA, in order to use your 1st and 2nd on a WR and QB.

Posted by: roccoskins | December 13, 2010 10:55 AM | Report abuse

And just ignore the craptastic defensive side of the ball? Nice..

Posted by: ga8085 | December 13, 2010 12:47 PM | Report abuse

so you don't think shanahan let the situation fester ?

also, this organization will be a circus until your favorite owner sells the team, but don't let his past record of ownership fool you. shanahan is just like a flashy FA signing, all designed to keep the fan base brainwashed

Posted by: hessone | December 13, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse
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So you vote for the Sir Robin 'bravely tuck your tail and run' approach? So then why cant you follow your own advice and root for the Ravens or Patriots or something? I mean, if this is just another Snyder mistake, then surely you wouldn't want to let your hatred for him fester, right? Screw hope, and optimism! Lazy bastards never did anything for anyone!

Posted by: mattsoundworld | December 13, 2010 12:48 PM | Report abuse

MS, is the leader.
He makes the personnel decisions, he's the chef and grocery shopper.
Tell me that mess at the end of the half didn't remind you of swinging gate Zorn or 2 timeout Gibbs.
He had a full and uncapped offseason with roster control.
I want MS to succeed here but his decisions, involvement and handling of this team are not off limits. He's not
joe pa & this ain't penn state.....

Posted by: priceisright | December 13, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse


I'm slowly coming to the realization that my lucky gameday underwear might not really be so lucky.

Comfy, though.

Posted by: freakzilla | December 13, 2010 12:36 PM |
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maybe they need washed

Posted by: hessone | December 13, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Preach

It

Red.

people are up here trying to say how much different this year is than last year...really??

lets call stuff what it is, none of this pc stuff...this team sucks PERIOD...to call it anything else is foolish, and to say that Mike/Bruce has done a good job, is even more foolish.

This thing needs to be gutted back to the bone.....If some team offers a 1st and 3rd for Rak/Landry, I'm jumping on that in a quick minute...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 13, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

You know, there are bad/missed calls in EVERY game. Yes, Orakpo was held on the TD and I personally thought that Santana made the catch that was challenged(though it had no affect on the outcome of the game) but you know, if we stop them on the 2 point conversion, we win the game. If we SCORE SOME POINTS during the offensive slaughter of the first half, we win. I don't recall throwing deep ONE SINGLE TIME yet we were running at will. No play action and a deep pass!!! Listen, it SUCKS when missed calls cost you, but we used up ALL our luck in the first half of the season. NONE OF OUR WINS are convincing and could have easily gone the other way if not for some good fortune coming our way. WE ARE NOT A GOOD TEAM! GOOD TEAMS OVERCOME BAD/MISSED CALLS AND MISTAKES!!! That said, I did not expect Shanny to fix Cerrato's decade of incompetince in one season but I do ecpect to see us inmrove from year to year. McNabb should not be here next year, He shoulda had three INT's yesterday and is inaccurate but we'll probably keep him to "train" a young drafted player.

Posted by: vegasskinsfan | December 13, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

I think changes at both Guard spots immediately helps out Rabach in the middle, so we can wait to replace him until 2012's draft. G and NT should be the 1st and 2nd round picks (not necessarily in that order), period, end of discussion.
Posted by: monk811 | December 13, 2010 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Its gonna be quite a dilemma. I've read some raving reports from an NFL scout about Cam Newton in the good ole fashion newspaper. If he's there when we pick, I say take him and go G/NT in the 2nd round. Scout says dude is surprisingly accurate on his throws and has good arm strength. Also depends in Luck comes out whether Newton can fall to the Skins.

Posted by: ga8085 | December 13, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

monk, I expected more as far as play calling goes...this offense runs with a zorn like efficiency....again, with the acumen the coach has, I expected better things....from game 1 thru game 13 the offense has suffered from the same struggles, protecting the qb, scoring points...there's been hardly any adjustments.....disappointment abounds...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 13, 2010 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Believe me, I expected more from EVERYONE, but we have to deal with the hand given to us. I do agree that I expected more in the coaching adjustments department, but protecting the quarterback and scoring points is on the players, IMO.

Posted by: monk811 | December 13, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan's clock management was terrible yesterday. I think Haynesworth will end up getting released, so the Skins won't get anything for him but a headache will be gone. I don't see too many players on current roster who could bring back a second round pick (except for Brian Orapko and Trent Williams and those guys are staying).

Chris Cooley could bring back a second rounder

Santana Moss - third or 4th round pick

Fred Davis - third or 4th

Makes it tough to add, probably the Redskins should trade down with 2011 first round pick and see if they can get extra pick in second or third that way.

Posted by: Pensfans | December 13, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse

DeAngelo Hall

On missed opportunities: “We didn’t make the plays we needed to. We didn’t get off the field when we needed to. I didn’t catch the pick I would have probably took to the house. Gave up a deep ball. There’s plays that’s out there that’s routine plays that we normally make that we didn’t make. It’s execution. Sometimes it feels like you’re cursed a little bit, but that’s definitely not the case. The football gods ain’t cursing us right now. We’re just not executing some plays that’s supposed to be routine.”

On the deep ball to Arrelious Benn: “I got a little lazy on a deep ball. Thought it was the smoke route. …I kind of coasted. Receiver ran right past me.”

Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/nfl/2010/12/they-said-it-0#ixzz1811Pkcg3
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dhall basically admitted that he is a cocky f@^k and got burnt by a rookie wr who had his number all day!!! dhall get thrown at soooooo often bc there are good cb's playing opposite of him!!

dhall sux!!!

Posted by: jimmy_the_crickett | December 13, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

And just ignore the craptastic defensive side of the ball? Nice..

Posted by: ga8085 | December 13, 2010 12:47 PM | Report abuse
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I feel ya ga8085, but as bad as our D is, you hold a team to 17 points, you're supposed to win.

Posted by: clark202 | December 13, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Graham Gano says they felt good off of his foot?

Terribly yanked FGs and even his makes yesterday were horrible.

Santana Moss went off after the game; he is fed up...

HC Shanahan's use of the clock was horrible in the first half.

Donovan McNabb?
I am so saddened to see that our FO was again wrong. Andy Reid was right, Philly had some talent and Donovan was showing signs of erosion. He is so erratic, isn't he?

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | December 13, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

In this age of ever increasing, extremely close, down to the wire games...a dependable placekicker is paramount. Even with all of our glaring weaknesses this year, there were too many games we let slip away.

I wonder how our friends over at Caps Insider are doing right now?

Posted by: PlayAction | December 13, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

this team has gaping holes everywhere, and not many young guys playing well, developing.
Nasty future if next year's off season does not bring immediate results.

Seeing Hunter Smith's comments I'm wondering if he wants to be released and has no hope of this being a relevant team in the NFL.

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | December 13, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse


@mattsoundworld

maybe another decade of optimism will work for you. good luck and tell snyder to keep up the good work

Posted by: hessone | December 13, 2010 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Vic1 | December 13, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Funny, I almost believed this. I can picture Snyder standing on a stool in the front row of a Beiber concert screaming like a little girl!

Posted by: monk811 | December 13, 2010 1:02 PM | Report abuse

I agree with you on all your comments greg. I know you and many other posters disagree with me, but snyder is the major problem with this team. he's the one who does the hiring and firing. why does he get a pass ? is it becuase he wants to "win badly and spends tons of money" ?again, he's the one who put this HC and GM in place and so far they get failing grades across the board.

Posted by: hessone | December 13, 2010 12:43 PM |

He doesn't get a pass but to keep harping on the owner and wanting him to sell the team is a waste of time.

Snyder will own this team long after most of us are dead or sucking are food through a straw.

So while I agree with you that Snyder has been terible in the past, hiring Shanny is not a bad move and if you would give it a few years instead of thinking the Vinny mistakes can be fixed in one year you will see that it was the right choice.

Posted by: Flounder21 | December 13, 2010 1:10 PM | Report abuse

In this age of ever increasing, extremely close, down to the wire games...a dependable placekicker is paramount. Even with all of our glaring weaknesses this year, there were too many games we let slip away.

I wonder how our friends over at Caps Insider are doing right now?

Posted by: PlayAction | December 13, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

It's games like these that make me wish we had traded for that Swedish soccer player Hamm Sandvich, man that dude could kick.

Posted by: monk811 | December 13, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

GGDAB (Graham Gano Dive Ass Beeps)

Posted by: PlayAction | December 13, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

RedDMV nice rant. I. like so many, can understand your frustrations. Here's what got me past yesterday and all previous Sunday's this football year. I believe that Shanny will clean this team of players that are unable to learn how to win. Let's be real, a bunch of the leaders on this team have hardly won at all their professional careers. It's going to take major reprogramming. Some like Cooley have never won at all in college and in the pros. A players are added and the Shanny way is reinforced, things should get better. I believe that as much as it is painful to watch, good leadership will win out in the end.

Posted by: TWISI | December 13, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

beans, it's a culture of losing. There is no other way to make sense of it. Only teams that have losing embedded in them find ways to lose like they did yesterday. How the game un-folded at the end was SICKENING to watch.

I can't believe I'm reading comments from people that are pimping the "Do you know who our head coach was last year?" or that "Did you really think this team will make the playoffs this year?" NONSENSE!

Okay, so they got Shanahan and, no I didn't expect them to make the playoffs this year. So based on that am I suppose to be all honky-dory and dismissive how that game ended yesterday, or the horiffic play from McNabb?

Why the fhuck wasn't Hunter Smith wasn't wearing any gloves in the RAIN?!?!? Isn't he the holder on FGs and EPs? Shouldn't the HOLDER, you know the guy who PLACES and HOLDS the ball shouldn't be wearing gloves when it's RANINING?!?!?!?! Why are some of the things that are so basic to a guy sitting at the pad watching the game so atypical to the "professional" and "experienced" guys in charge.


Sundberg should have worn gloves as well as Hunter Smith. Both including, Gano, should have practiced handling wet footballs.


This is some of the most perplexing football I've watched the last 2 and a half years. Just dumb sh*t on display from these guys every Sunday and every day in between.

Posted by: RedDMV | December 13, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Cliff Lee has $160 million dollars on the table and has to 'consider' if he wants to sign the contract that'll get it for him.

Wazzup wid dat?

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 13, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

"It was a big play, a big deal, coming from a player like myself that considers myself one of the core guys on special teams," Wilson said.

Please be advised Wilson that you were not alone on the "big play, a big deal" side of things in yesterday's joke of a game. There are more issues facing the Redskins then lack of talent, because these guys lack the basic fundamentals of football that you're taught on the pee wee level.
On offense we refuse to BLOCK (basic) or EXECUTE plays efficiently, on defense we refuse to WRAP-UP (basic) and TACKLE, and on special teams we are just SPECIAL. I have no words for special teams at this time.
In addition, there was no "ONE" play that lost that game, it was a combination of poor clock management, play execution, and lack of confidence in oneself and one's teammates.I can't believe what I am seeing week in and week out! It's a disgrace!!

Posted by: raregem031979 | December 13, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Somebody asks Redskins "are you confident in the coach?" Now consider for a moment that the coach has already benched one player because he was ticked off, and has now fired another. So, when asked "are you confident?" what do you think the player is going to say?

Posted by: 44fx2901 | December 13, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

What is Shanahans plan?

Posted by: HelloNewman53 | December 13, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

this season is the afterbirth of last season's 12 lb yellow-brown corn-dotted steaming pile of sh!t - which is an extension of years and years of danny's tiny man i don't care about washington dc it's my team I bought it i get to do what i want with it fantasy football meddling.

last year we told him get a real HC and a true GM and back off - which he has done so I'm laying off little danny for now - it's still his fault though.

so shanahan has shown he might be able to address some of the institutionalized failure and incompetence that's taken root here.

suspending AH gives me hope he has an idea about how to root it out, to end the continued incompetence, frustration and failure we've come to expect on sunday - that's come to define what it means to be a redskins fan in the daniel snyder era.

i'm hopeful that at some point in the future when the skins have a lead it will be safe to feel positive about it.

despite the continued f-ing misery, i'm hopeful that some day in the future, even when the skins lose it will be with respect.

that going into a game you can feel like the team (not just a few true redskins on the roster) deserves to win so you can feel good about supporting them - and not just hopeful they don't ruin your day.

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | December 13, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

A lack of fundmentaly sound players. We need players from schools that teach fundamentals. Not the "U" but USC Texas No more U or Virgina Tech when all the sissy tacklers come from like Hall

Posted by: stephenwilson2003@yahoo.com | December 13, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Let me give you all a woman's point of veiw about this team. I have been a Redskins fan for at least 40 years. I believe a reason for the problems we are having are part of the players fault and mostly the coaching fault. The players, may not be for the reason you might think. This coach is playing hard ball, and I thought football was a job that you have to enjoy to be a player. This coach seems to have taken all the fun out of the games for these players. It starts with the conflict with Haynesworth, then taking Mcnabb out of the game in the last quarter, and back to Haynesworth. How many other problems are happening with this coach that no one else on the team will tell you. They may be afraid to tell you because of fear that they might not get a chance to get into the game next week. It seems that if you are Shanahan's bad side, you might not get to play. If you are late for practice, fine the players. Don't keep them from playing. We the fans want to win. Not feed your ego. I do believe that Haynesworth was not necessarily all at fault here. Most of these players seem to love the game. But let's look at some of the players that seem to be sitting on the sidelines and we all are wondering why aren't they being played. The coach is calling these plays. He seems so stringent. Maybe sometimes you need the participation of the team. I wouldn't mind if they don't do it your way sometimes, they are on the field and they might see something you don't see. Stop being the monkey on their back. You probably have these players wondering which way they should go. A lot of us have had jobs with a boss sometimes in their life, that you don't know what to expect from them one day to the next. Relax coach and supervise the players, but let the guys have a little fun.

Posted by: LindaRedd | December 13, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

LindaRedd I was thinking the same thoughts today. Shanahan is running the team through fear. Players and workers do their best when they respect their bosses, not fear them. Throw in the appearance of nepotism with little Shanny and you have a major disgruntled, scared work force. It is okay to be stern, but you have to be fair as well. Shanny's "my way or the highway" approach is old school but not effective with the millionaire players of today. We truly needed a new GM and Coach after the departure of Vinny. Why do so many fans think that Snyder got it right with Shanny and Allen after all the flops with big name signings previously? Shanny was out of coaching for two years with no one beating the doors down for him when Snyder plucked him from the dead. Shanny was the only one willing to come here. That does not make him the best fit for this team.

Posted by: SPUD2 | December 13, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins would have been better off with Jason Campbell. Everyone wanted to rail against the Eagles for letting Donovan McNabb go. The reasons they let him go are becoming very clear now. It was addition by subtraction for the Eagles.

You have to understand odds to be a good head coach. You have to come into every game prepared and know what you are up against. When does it make sense to attempt a field goal? You have to research the field. You need to know the conditions. You need to understand situational football and have more than just a gut feel for why things will work. You'd be surprised how unprepared some coaches are coming into games.

Josh McDaniels is one of the best offensive minds in football, but he was not a football evaluator. Denver knows the mistake it made. It's challenging enough coaching a team with all that is involved nowadays with the position, handling your assistants. You can't do it all. You have to be able to empower people in your organization, put your ego aside and train them to be efficient. There is not enough time to do it all, let alone to handle the personnel side.

The problem you have when you make too many changes — like Washington. If you change coaches and personnel people every few years, you change systems, and systems require specific skill sets. Continuity is so underrated in this business. But owners are not looking at it that way. They are just evaluating wins.

What's ironic is the problem in DC was not the offense. Now it might be. They have to figure out what they are looking at on offense.

Washington's defense remains the Redskins' major concern.

If I am Washington, I'm looking within the league for the best defensive coordinator. I'd be taking a hard look at Chargers defensive coordinator Ron Rivera. They have gone back and forth between 3-4 and 4-3 fronts. Rivera has run both. He'll look at his personnel, and he'll run whatever works best. It sounds easy, but most coaches cannot do that. They only coach what they know, and are very stuck in their ways.


Posted by: cbtole2 | December 13, 2010 5:46 PM | Report abuse

You can TALK about winning or you can create an environment where winning thrives.

And if you're NOT A WINNER and too arrogant or egoistical to know better, then it don't matter much now does it?

You take a Napoleonic mindset and couple that with a .500 coach who doesn't know his own limitations, add in a GM who knows more about how to get rid of high priced malcontents than actually build a winner, where is all this WINNING gonna come from?

You might have a great Donkey; that Donkey may plow the back 40 like nobodies business...that don't mean squat if you trying to win the Kentucky Derby.

There is no winning to be had here. No one here KNOWS how.

You got the owner who is SURE he knows, the coach who THINKS he knows, and the GM who knows he don't KNOW. If the coach knew, he'd still be in Denver. If the GM knew, he'd still be in Tampa.

And if the owner really knew, he woulda sold the team by now...

Posted by: kahlua87 | December 13, 2010 6:06 PM | Report abuse

When you win, everyone including the coach is a Genius.

When you lose, it's the playcalling, the egomaniacal coach, the dimwit owner, the past 20 years, the referees, etc. Every playcall is scrutinized.

Posted by: rickyroge | December 13, 2010 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Ricky, the Danny is NOT your daddy or your rich uncle and he's not leaving you anything in the Will; you can stop smooching his azzz anytime now.

Just cause you WANT him to be Great doesn't mean he is. Maybe it's easier inside the Matrix for you.

Just take your pill or click your heels Dorothy...you'll be back in Kansas in no time

Posted by: kahlua87 | December 13, 2010 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Couple of thoughts.

Imagine the Redskins if the following had happened...

Half the tackles made that weren't.
Half the passes caught that were dropped.
Half the passes that went into the dirt that instead were made catchable.
Half of the passes that defensive players dropped were actually caught.

Imagine what would have happened if this team could play more than one half of football in a game.

Imagine how the Redskins would be like with a game plan like the opening drive against Minnesota in which variety worked and we scored a touchdown.

The playoffs would have been an option if we'd had half of the mistakes corrected. Not rocket science.

Posted by: laserwizard | December 13, 2010 7:47 PM | Report abuse

a couple of you here are right the head coach is way overrated and a born loser, gm just a contract signer, paperwork man, he is NO george allen(father) haslett was a solid player but horrible as a coach in nfl, shamm-o-klan's son should not be a towel carrier in the nfl this team will not win if there is a season next year too many problems not enough draft picks and with the current staff of fools and maniacs they have no chance deal with it.

Posted by: wathu19 | December 13, 2010 8:27 PM | Report abuse

"Ricky, the Danny is NOT your daddy or your rich uncle and he's not leaving you anything in the Will; you can stop smooching his azzz anytime now.Just cause you WANT him to be Great doesn't mean he is. Maybe it's easier inside the Matrix for you.Just take your pill or click your heels Dorothy...you'll be back in Kansas in no timePosted by: kahlua87"

A stupid post. Kahlua hasn't got an actual argument so he resorts to BS ad hominem junk.

Sure it's kahlua you're swilling, bubby? 'Cuz it sounds more like 4Loco.

Posted by: Samson151 | December 13, 2010 9:32 PM | Report abuse

"a couple of you here are right the head coach is way overrated and a born loser, gm just a contract signer, paperwork man, he is NO george allen(father) haslett was a solid player but horrible as a coach in nfl, shamm-o-klan's son should not be a towel carrier in the nfl this team will not win if there is a season next year too many problems not enough draft picks and with the current staff of fools and maniacs they have no chance deal with it.
Posted by: wathu19"

Geez, the nuns let you skip punctuation in third grade? Don't tell me you're thumbing this all into an Iphone.

This must be dim bulb night.

Posted by: Samson151 | December 13, 2010 9:35 PM | Report abuse

4 wins with Zorn last year. 5 with Shanny. O line has been bad for 10 years. D went from 4th or 5th to 28th or 29th.
Players have said for 10 years " we just don't make plays. We've got to make plays....." REALLY??? Is that why New England is so good? They make frigging plays?? YA THINK??? The coaches MAKE them make plays or they're freaking GONE!!
Here's what we need.....say it with me...Cowher. Bill Cowher. Let these idiots like Meangelo not make plays and come back and face him! Do that a couple times with him and your on the practice squad. Give Cowher a blank checkbook, complete control, and have Danny go to Aruba for the season and leave him alone. We'll be play off bound in no time....

Posted by: Riggo2 | December 14, 2010 12:57 AM | Report abuse

How could any sane person have confidence in "Shanahans plan" ... after watching the way it's unfolded so far?

I honestly can't remember ever seeing so many bad / questionable coaching decisions made by a Redskins coach in a single season ... and that includes the Steve Spurrier and Jim Zorn years.

It goes all the way back to the very first decisions he made. He brings in his son to run the offense. Really? Even the Manager at my local McDonalds knows better than to hire his son as the Assistant Manager.

Then he looks at the different weaknesses we had on our team, and somehow comes to the conclusion that revamping our entire defense would be a good decision. No other coach in the NFL would have looked at the D linemen and linebackers we had and thought to themselves ... Yea, that will work well in a 3/4 scheme.

Then all of the highly questionable player personnel moves he's made. He's completely devalued, alienated and cut several players that we could have traded for much needed draft picks.

He brought in a bunch of players coming off major injuries to try and shore up our O and D lines.

The ridiculous laundry list he's compiled so far of RB's, WR's, QB's, etc. that he thought would help improve our team.

He seems obsessed with focusing on how well players look in practice, rather than how they actually play in games.

Every week it seems he has some "odd personal issue" with a different player and then we're all left wondering why that guys not playing, or he's being cut, black-balled, etc.

As for "Shanahan's plan" .... if it was to set this team back another 4 years in the rebuilding process, I'd say he's done it.

We all knew it would take some time to fix this team, but how anyone could watch Sunday's game, and once again see McNabb throw 100 mph darts into the ground, or the lack of adjustments made after a dominant first half, or our tight ends relegated to pass protection because of the horrible O-line, or the complete breakdown of clock management, play calling and decision making in the final 2 minutes of that game... and think that we've improved one iota over last season, or that we're somehow on the right track to fixing this thing, is beyond me.

Personally, my confidence level in what I've seen so far is at an all time low. The only reason our record is better than last years, is because of some uncanny luck we had in the beginning of the season.

I'm all for giving Shanahan a few years to try and turn this team around, but so far, I'm totaly unimpressed with what I've seen, and I think he's actually created more problems than we had before he showed up.


Posted by: FootballCardSnatcher | December 14, 2010 8:27 AM | Report abuse

monk, at best I'd say the jury is still out on Kyle's play calling.......

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 13, 2010 12:01 PM | Report abuse

THE BERDICT'S IN, GREG!

"Ladies & Gentlemen of the jury, have you reached a jury?"

"We have, Your Honor"

"We find both Shanahan pere & Shanahan fils & James Haslett guilty of attempted impersonation of competent NFL coaches"

"We also find Daniel Synder guilty of attempted impersonation of a NFL owner & grand larceny of ticket holders"

"Verdict may be accepted & recorded..."

Posted by: FormerBullisBulldog | December 14, 2010 9:56 AM | Report abuse

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