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Devin Thomas Limps Off (Updated)


It appears to be rally-cap day for Jim Zorn. (John McDonnell - The Washington Post)


Devin Thomas came up limping after catching a pass from Colt Brennan. Thomas went to the trainers' tent and emerged limping noticeably with his right leg wrapped. Doesn't look good. Can't tell if it's his calf or knee, but my immediate reaction, based solely on his gait is that we won't see him on the field for a couple of days.

Malcolm Kelly is practicing and looks fine. He appears to be getting a few more reps. Of course, he wasn't hurt; he was just getting the afternoons off as a precaution.

After practice ended at 10:26, Jim Zorn met with reporters and indicated that Thomas' hamstring is not pulled. The team is just being cautious with him and wants to make sure nothing gets aggravated.

Zorn added that Santana Moss slightly tweaked his hamstring and had ice on it after practice.

By Rick Maese  |  August 6, 2009; 10:13 AM ET
 
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Comments

FIRST Kelly, now Thomas

Posted by: scottmando | August 6, 2009 10:19 AM | Report abuse

FIRST Kelly, now Thomas

Posted by: scottmando | August 6, 2009 10:19 AM | Report abuse

Can we get an update on Kelly?

Posted by: jm220 | August 6, 2009 10:19 AM | Report abuse

Scottmando is FIRST for a change

Posted by: scottmando | August 6, 2009 10:20 AM | Report abuse

swell....

Posted by: chrislarry | August 6, 2009 10:20 AM | Report abuse

I would shut DT down for the remainder of this week.

Posted by: TWISI | August 6, 2009 10:21 AM | Report abuse

twis, thanks for the updates on the previous post....

sucks about Thomas....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 6, 2009 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Hit refresh, JM. This update is just for you.

Posted by: CindyBoren | August 6, 2009 10:24 AM | Report abuse

How soon before the Skins start to second guess their gamble to not add a premier WR from the Free Agent ranks?
200+ Million into the Defense and nearly zero into the Offense (except picking up Dockery who was waived by the Bills).

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | August 6, 2009 10:24 AM | Report abuse

Twitter down.
Facebook with transport errors.
Redskins falling like flies.

Posted by: isnadd | August 6, 2009 10:25 AM | Report abuse

The front page says nine comments, but this page shows "no comments" ... I sense that the WeatherCam gnome is using Loseable Type to mess with the snow making machine again.

Posted by: dcsween | August 6, 2009 10:27 AM | Report abuse

Kelly is fine. If Kelly stays healthy, he is better than Thomas anyways. Kelly should be the starter along side Santana, whether Devin is healthy or not.

Posted by: cj658 | August 6, 2009 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Kelly wasn't hurt -- the Skins plan to reduce his workload on two-a-days by having him sit out the afternoon session and work on the side...

Posted by: siris | August 6, 2009 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Cindy, is the SnowCam still operable? Seems like technology is going all haywire today. Plus, my global climate weirding weather prediction computer indicates a blizzard may be coming through soon.

Posted by: dcsween | August 6, 2009 10:29 AM | Report abuse

http://www.redskins.com/gen/players/Rueben_Riley.jsp

Is there room on the Redskins for this guy? Please???

Posted by: skinfanman | August 6, 2009 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Is it me or does this guy look like Ray Liotta?

http://www.redskins.com/gen/players/Scott_Burley.jsp

Posted by: skinfanman | August 6, 2009 10:33 AM | Report abuse

I understand we may be going back to Ham radios for updates.

Posted by: alex35332 | August 6, 2009 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Oh boy...let's hope it's nothing serious.

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 6, 2009 10:34 AM | Report abuse

al, smoke signals.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 6, 2009 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Oh, yeah, the SnowCam is operable, Sween. The ruler ain't holding up too well, but the cam is just fine.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/mmedia/webcams/snowcam.htm

Posted by: CindyBoren | August 6, 2009 10:35 AM | Report abuse

I agree that Kelly would be the ideal guy to start with his size but unfortunately he is somewhat of a mistory man who no one ever sees

Posted by: scottmando | August 6, 2009 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Thanks for the update. I hope all is well with you Cyn Cyty

Posted by: jm220 | August 6, 2009 10:36 AM | Report abuse

al, smoke signals.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 6, 2009 10:35 AM | Report abuse

We using Moris Code or gonna go Polybius?

Posted by: alex35332 | August 6, 2009 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: skinfanman | August 6, 2009 10:37 AM | Report abuse

The blog just booted me from commenting! I'm going to have to get a horse and ride through the streets of D.C. with Skins updates. ... Don't think I won't do it for you guys.

Posted by: CindyBoren | August 6, 2009 10:38 AM | Report abuse

The blog just booted me from commenting! I'm going to have to get a horse and ride through the streets of D.C. with Skins updates. ... Don't think I won't do it for you guys.

Posted by: CindyBoren

LMAO

Posted by: jm220 | August 6, 2009 10:41 AM | Report abuse

I might drive down to DC if this were to happen.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 6, 2009 10:42 AM | Report abuse

CAN someone please tell me what the significance of posts comprising the phrase "Beep" or "beep beep"? The usage seems to be equivalent to the horns or bells used by the very uh, wacky "Morning Zoo"-type radio DJs, but I'd like to know how it came to be used on this blog.

(This did not seem to be answered on the RI wiki page.)

Thanks.

Posted by: GoTeamGoTeamGooooooTeamYay | August 6, 2009 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Would that be a kind of a Paul Revere thing or a Lady Godiva thing?

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | August 6, 2009 10:45 AM | Report abuse

The blog just booted me from commenting! I'm going to have to get a horse and ride through the streets of D.C. with Skins updates. ... Don't think I won't do it for you guys.

Posted by: CindyBoren

LMAO

Posted by: jm220 | August 6, 2009 10:41 AM | Report abuse

One if by Thomas, two if by Kelly?

Or is it, the Iggles are coming, the Iggles are coming.

Posted by: Devo2 | August 6, 2009 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Kalif Barnes out 6-8 weeks, Adam Terry to IR.....if we want another tackle we better pick one soon...

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 6, 2009 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Beep means new post by Cindy or JR.

Posted by: alex35332 | August 6, 2009 10:48 AM | Report abuse

ZJ!!! Where have you been?? Good to have you back......

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 6, 2009 10:48 AM | Report abuse

Updated Thomas stuff at the top.

Posted by: CindyBoren | August 6, 2009 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Report: Packers are looking at signing Vick
Posted by Mike Florio on August 6, 2009 10:09 AM ET
Last week, Chris Myers of FOX Sports Radio reported that the Vikings were doing their homework regarding the possibility of signing quarterback Mike Vick.

Owner Zygi Wilf promptly slammed the door on the possibility. (Just like he did in February regarding Brett Favre.)

This week, the Packers reportedly are looking seriously at Vick.

According to Jason Wilde of the Wisconsin State Journal, the Packers are "doing thorough due diligence" regarding Vick, and they have "had legitimate discussions" about the possibility of acquiring him.

This doesn't mean that a signing is imminent. But it represents a rare indication of a team attempting to engage in the delicate cost-benefit analysis that, as a practical matter, has been difficult for most teams to accomplish while focused on training camp.

And we've been intrigued by possible link between Vick and the Packers, even though most brushed off G.M. Ted Thompson's recent comment that he hasn't ruled out pursuing Vick as Thompson characteristically keeping his cards close to his vest.

Since there's no identifiable owner of the publicly-held team, Thompson arguably has more sway in Green Bay than he'd have in other cities. Throw in the fact that Packers CEO Mark Murphy is a former NFL player, and there's no virtually no chance that someone with no football experience will get nervous regarding the potential consequences of flirting with Vick.

Besides, Thompson and the Packers have shown that they're willing to ignore potential P.R. predicaments in the interests of fielding a successful football team.

Case in point -- Thompson didn't flinch last year during the Brett Favre fiasco, which likely created far more local consternation than the arrival of Vick ever could.

Also, the Packers had no concerns about bringing in receiver Koren Robinson (wow, two PFT mentions for Koren in one day) despite his history of off-field misconduct, which prompted one writer to ask Thompson whether there's a concern that Robinson might kill a local resident while driving drunk.

Ironically, it was Vick and the Falcons who did what at the time was unthinkable, winning a postseason game at the previously impenetrable Lambeau Field.

So maybe, just maybe, the Packers will decide to attempt to restore their playoff mojo with a little (you guessed it) hair of the dog that bit them.

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 6, 2009 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Thomas and Kelly are SOFT! Wasted picks. It's a shame. Looks like Hackett will be our #2 or #3. This is why you go and get TO when you had the chance. You instantly improve a horrible passing attack. You give Jason Campbell a bonafide (dominant) big play threat...leaving him no excuses (barring injuries) for poor QB play this season. If Campbell was unable to find success with TO in the fold, then he doesn't deserve to be here. And I don't want to hear the "character concerns" crap Vinny keeps chucking! Our starting RB has questionable character as well and he's still here. Looks like O-line and receivers will be our achilles heel again this season. Jeez!

Posted by: blackgifts3 | August 6, 2009 10:52 AM | Report abuse

I've just been working and taking a break from bloggin my guts out....and have been hoping against hope that my team wasn't really dumb enough to cut Jansen with the realistic plan that Mike Nutrisystem Williams was a possible replacement....but here we are huh?

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 6, 2009 10:53 AM | Report abuse

And, Go Team, RI Customer Service absolutely appreciates your use of the WIKI before resorting to speaking to one of our friendly customer service reps regarding your question.

your business is appreciated!

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | August 6, 2009 10:54 AM | Report abuse

Zorn tells reporters that Moss tweaked his hammy. He has ice on it now.

Posted by: CindyBoren | August 6, 2009 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Wonder how we would do if nobody practiced or played until the first real game of the season. Just classroom discussion of the playbook and then just a walk through of the plays. Players would still have to work out, etc but no contact.

Hey, we might get to game 2 with no injuries!!!

What would Vince Lombardi say about all these injuries???

Posted by: fearturtle44 | August 6, 2009 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Can I shoot Vinny in the head with the nationals hot dog gun? Or can we get Dick Cheney to do it?

Posted by: alex35332 | August 6, 2009 10:55 AM | Report abuse

OMG, hell no to TO, you're crazy, TO is the last thing any team needs, at this stage in his career he's merely an average guy who doesn't like contact and drops too many passes.

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 6, 2009 10:55 AM | Report abuse

"wasn't really dumb enough to cut Jansen with the realistic plan that Mike Nutrisystem Williams was a possible replacement"

So much for you having a better grasp on reality......

Where was it ever stated that Mike Williams was going to replace Jansen?? Seriously, what goes on in that small mind of yours, that leads you to these conclusions......

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 6, 2009 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Devin shut it down dude. Kelly it's show TIME !

Posted by: whitepeopleareafraidtotalkaboutracialissues | August 6, 2009 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Zorn added that Santana Moss slightly tweaked his hamstring and had ice on it after practice.

Damn! What the hell is up with his hamstring every year?

Posted by: jm220 | August 6, 2009 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Moss has a hammy problem already?? Does anyone on the Redskins staff show him how to stretch?

Posted by: chasgiffen | August 6, 2009 11:02 AM | Report abuse

How come we are the only team that has all these BS injuries? Guys are coming to camp out of shape=injuries=Danny is going to pay em anyway!No discipline in the organization equals no discipline on the field equals losers forever! Vinny and Danny will never win with these whussies!

Posted by: lylewimbledon | August 6, 2009 11:02 AM | Report abuse

You would never see a Capital sit out because his leg hurts! Whole different mentality!

Posted by: lylewimbledon | August 6, 2009 11:04 AM | Report abuse

Twitter down.
Facebook with transport errors.
Redskins falling like flies.

Posted by: isnadd | August 6, 2009 10:25 AM

Dang, isnadd! You were two syllables on the first line short of a haiku. Try it again, dude!

Posted by: freakzilla | August 6, 2009 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Oh, and one syllable too many on the third line.

Posted by: freakzilla | August 6, 2009 11:05 AM | Report abuse

"whitepeopleareafraidtotalkaboutracialissues"

Putting aside political debate b/c we all know how enlightening those can be on RI...) I have to highligt this user name as brilliant subversive message delivery. B/C its long you are forced to read it and by the time your eyes and brain agree on the meaning (second behind your actual 'readng')your hit with a provacative/challenging statement.

Add to that my avoidance of real issues sorta drives home the point.

Good times

Posted by: chrislarry | August 6, 2009 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Is it me or are the Skins the Kings of the Hammy Injury? Going back to like The Posse?

No me gusta training camp/pre-season...fear of injuries frays my nervous system into angel hair a la mode.

Posted by: chrislarry | August 6, 2009 11:10 AM | Report abuse

BREAKING NEWS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BREAKING NEWS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

According to Adam Schefter of ESPN Future, Devin Thomas suffered a torn ACL during practice on Thurday. The injury occurred while Devin was performing a one-on-one drill.

Posted by: whitepeopleareafraidtotalkaboutracialissues | August 6, 2009 11:12 AM | Report abuse

The blog just booted me from commenting! I'm going to have to get a horse and ride through the streets of D.C. with Skins updates. ... Don't think I won't do it for you guys.
Posted by: CindyBoren
-----------------------------------------

Cindy, what will you be wearing during this ride? I don't want to confuse you with anyone from the Times.

Posted by: isnadd | August 6, 2009 11:12 AM | Report abuse

What will be the bigger bust this year? The skins 2 young wr's? Or GIJoe Rise of Cobra?

Posted by: alex35332 | August 6, 2009 11:13 AM | Report abuse

What will be the bigger bust this year? The skins 2 young wr's? Or GIJoe Rise of Cobra?

Posted by: alex35332 | August 6, 2009 11:13 AM | Report abuse

GI Joe will be what Transformers 2 would have been had it not made any money.

Posted by: Original_etrod | August 6, 2009 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Dam! Devin Thomas can't fart without pullin' a hamstring.

I swear we lead the league in offseason hammie pullin'.

Posted by: Predator48 | August 6, 2009 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Does anyone know if you can booze at Training Camp this saturday?

Posted by: jeffco01 | August 6, 2009 11:17 AM | Report abuse

What's up with that pic of Zorn on the post? He looks like a backup dancer for K-Fed.

Posted by: Original_etrod | August 6, 2009 11:19 AM | Report abuse

By some of the comments made up here I can tell that some of you guys have never been athletes. you see these type of injuries because there is a difference in working out and staying in shape and going two a days and hard practices. your body gets aches and small injuries in the begining because it is not use to running routes and blocking people as hard when you work out to stay in shape and keep your cardio. the first two weeks is always the roughest, but you all new that because of all of the armchair GM experience you have.

Posted by: GreatOne1 | August 6, 2009 11:20 AM | Report abuse

Greatone smackdown!

Posted by: chrislarry | August 6, 2009 11:22 AM | Report abuse

Thanks for clearing that up for us. Now tell us about the game where you scored 4 touchdowns for Polk High.....

Posted by: dlhaze1 | August 6, 2009 11:22 AM | Report abuse

GreatOne I was athlete and still keep myself in very good shape. Something is up with the training or Moss to keep pulling his hammy. (any sprinter will tell you that)

Posted by: jm220 | August 6, 2009 11:23 AM | Report abuse

BREAKING NEWS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BREAKING NEWS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

According to Adam Schefter of ESPN Future, Devin Thomas suffered a torn ACL during practice on Thurday. The injury occurred while Devin was performing a one-on-one drill.


Posted by: whitepeopleareafraidtotalkaboutracialissues | August 6, 2009 11:12 AM | Report abuse


Thats not funny at all dude

Posted by: jeffco01 | August 6, 2009 11:23 AM | Report abuse

All of you girly skins fans need to shut up and let training camp play out. By the way buying some wet one's to wipe the crap from around your bottom wouldn't be a bad thing. Half of you on this blob need to get alife. Maybe spend some time with your wives before she ends up with " Joe the plummer"

Posted by: whitepeopleareafraidtotalkaboutracialissues | August 6, 2009 11:26 AM | Report abuse

does that mean Devin was hurt yesterday and today, or is this the same 'limp off' as yesterday

i hope he's practicing at 7/8 speed, and now he should not practice, i hope there staying hydrated

Posted by: pabrian2003 | August 6, 2009 11:26 AM | Report abuse

I blame the Bermuda Grass at RP for all these hammy pulls.
Tear it up this off-season and plant sesamea.

Posted by: MonkMossMann | August 6, 2009 11:27 AM | Report abuse

I blame the Bermuda Grass at RP for all these hammy pulls.
Tear it up this off-season and plant sesamea.

Posted by: MonkMossMann | August 6, 2009 11:27 AM | Report abuse

What about Sensimilla?

Posted by: Gweez | August 6, 2009 11:29 AM | Report abuse

""whitepeopleareafraidtotalkaboutracialissues"

Putting aside political debate b/c we all know how enlightening those can be on RI...) I have to highligt this user name as brilliant subversive message delivery. B/C its long you are forced to read it and by the time your eyes and brain agree on the meaning (second behind your actual 'readng')your hit with a provacative/challenging statement."

I thought it was sort of stupid.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 6, 2009 11:30 AM | Report abuse

So maybe, just maybe, the Packers will decide to attempt to restore their playoff mojo with a little (you guessed it) hair of the dog that bit them.

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 6, 2009 10:51 AM | Report

I think you are ignoring the fact that the QB they currently have would be a step up for most teams.

Posted by: scottmando | August 6, 2009 11:31 AM | Report abuse

"What about Sensimilla?Posted by: Gweez"

What about sinsemilla?

Posted by: Samson151 | August 6, 2009 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Oh I thought you meant the other kind of Bermuda grass

Posted by: alex35332 | August 6, 2009 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Just saying it's a cash crop, while it may give them the munchies it may cut down on the hammie injuries.

Posted by: Gweez | August 6, 2009 11:33 AM | Report abuse

myspacebarisstucktoo!

Posted by: CheyenneWY | August 6, 2009 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Its a great muscle relaxer. Thats 4 sure.

Posted by: alex35332 | August 6, 2009 11:34 AM | Report abuse

w.p.a.a.t.t.a.r.i - your name is funny, and also, an all encompassing racial stereotype.

your post is funny, too. I agree, everyone should think positive and check out some other teams. I bet there is a lot of bumps and bruises this time of year. there is a difference between being hurt and injured, right?

I know there are a lot of posters (that claim to be Skins fans) that will be very disappointed if any of the following people are ever successful: Thomas, Kelly, Davis, Rinehart, Campbell, Snyder, and Cerrato.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | August 6, 2009 11:38 AM | Report abuse

I'm not in the healthcare field, and know nothing about sports medicine...but is it just me, or does it almost seem like the Skins treat these nagging type injuries sooo cautiously, that perhaps that's part of the problem? If a player has a propensity for sore hamstrings, shouldn't they try building it up by using it, not taking days off just because it gets a little sore? Again, no insights here, just wondering...

Posted by: OldManGibbs | August 6, 2009 11:39 AM | Report abuse

woo, are we legalizing, I'm in. Help the struggling economy while protecting valuable Hammys.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | August 6, 2009 11:41 AM | Report abuse

"on a very wet field today"

I don't like the sound of that...sounds like today could produce some pulled hammies....hope not....

Posted LAST THREAD by: BeantownGreg1

No more calls we have our psychic of the day winner. Congrats Beans, you receive a non-functioning twitter-equipped Blackberry Wiki Ham Radio...

Shame about Moss and D. Thomas leg injuries...

Posted by: TheCork | August 6, 2009 11:41 AM | Report abuse

whitepeoplareafraidtotalkaboutracialissues.

That's why I don't post on the NASCAR blog.

BONG!

Posted by: Original_etrod | August 6, 2009 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Love the pictorial Jim Zorn Homage to Steve Martin’s “Walk Like an Egyption”

Posted by: TheCork | August 6, 2009 11:43 AM | Report abuse

there's a Nascar blog......

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 6, 2009 11:45 AM | Report abuse

I think the picture is Zorn telling Snyder

"I've had it up to HERE with you"

Posted by: CheyenneWY | August 6, 2009 11:46 AM | Report abuse

JM220, The problem is that they do not properly stretch. they put their pads on and come out and do some jo basic stretches to get warm, when in all actuality they need to spend at least 30 minutes really warming up and stretching.

they need to stretch as if they were at a track meet. If you notice before the games ( i mean the real games) you see receivers our there warming up hours before, stretching and doing stretching exercises, but they dont do that for practice. that is why there are so many more injuries in practice.

Posted by: GreatOne1 | August 6, 2009 11:47 AM | Report abuse

gary clark always had hammy probs. the way some of these guys run (fast w/ power, I'm not sure what that feels like) it is going to happen.

You can't be too cautious, we need everyone as healthy as possible for week 1 @ Giants, right?

do white guys pull hammy's too? ( just kidding couldn't resist)

Posted by: pabrian2003 | August 6, 2009 11:48 AM | Report abuse

GI Joe will be what Transformers 2 would have been had it not made any money.

Posted by: Original_etrod | August 6, 2009 11:15 AM


I don't know, but I just watched the old animated "G.I. Joe: The Movie" on YouTube yesterday...good times. If you're interested, here's Part 1 of 9:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZdgIA7E1xU

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 6, 2009 11:48 AM | Report abuse

The Bangles = Walk Like an Egyptian
Steve Martin = King Tut

Posted by: DikShuttle | August 6, 2009 11:48 AM | Report abuse

But isnt there a chance if they take it easy in practice, the game speed will absolutely lead to injuries

Posted by: CheyenneWY | August 6, 2009 11:49 AM | Report abuse

.....that is why there are so many more injuries in practice.

Posted by: GreatOne1

they should do Yoga and/or some type of martial arts training, perhaps tai chi. it could prevent injury and give us some extra identity over other teams

Posted by: pabrian2003 | August 6, 2009 11:51 AM | Report abuse

do white guys pull hammy's too? ( just kidding couldn't resist)

Posted by: pabrian2003 | August 6, 2009 11:48 AM | Report abuse

thats pretty good...

Posted by: CheyenneWY | August 6, 2009 11:51 AM | Report abuse

GreatOne you may be right but it could be from the supplements they are taking as well. I remember last year seeing some at Moss locker. It you don't increase your water intake especially with Creatine you muscle will become tight.

do white guys pull hammy's too? ( just kidding couldn't resist)

Posted by: pabrian2003

lol

Posted by: jm220 | August 6, 2009 11:51 AM | Report abuse

I think the picture is Zorn telling Snyder

"I've had it up to HERE with you"

Posted by: CheyenneWY | August 6, 2009 11:46 AM


Actually, he's doing that "chill out" thing from those old Pepsi commercials. Judging from his "hip hip hooray" antics from last year, we know he's not afraid to whip out a dated reference.

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 6, 2009 11:52 AM | Report abuse

The Bangles = Walk Like an Egyptian
Steve Martin = King Tut

Posted by: DikShuttle


You're right, of course. I blame it on too much Sesamea Grass during my misspent youth.

Posted by: TheCork | August 6, 2009 11:53 AM | Report abuse

But isnt there a chance if they take it easy in practice, the game speed will absolutely lead to injuries

Posted by: CheyenneWY

Yes, practice hard but if you're hurt be cautious. I hope they don't hit as hard as they do in reg season games

Posted by: pabrian2003 | August 6, 2009 11:53 AM | Report abuse

On a positive note at least he came up limping after a CATCH.

Last year he would have pulled a hammy and had nothing to show for it.

Posted by: CheyenneWY | August 6, 2009 11:54 AM | Report abuse

AMEN Great One.

I don't understand why we have to have such a shti training staff who let this go on year after year.

I would LOOOVE some one to stat up our injury occurrance vs. teams like the Dolphins.

Posted by: DikShuttle | August 6, 2009 11:54 AM | Report abuse

gary clark had chronically bad hamstrings - hopefully, Thomas can man-up and play throuh it. Just kidding - Is Anquan still available?

Posted by: coparker5 | August 6, 2009 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Actually the picture dialog went like this:

Zorn: Anyone seen Dan Snyder this morning?
Vinny: Who?
Zorn: Dan Snyder, our boss.
Vinny: What's he look like?
Zorn: Dark hair, about this tall.

Posted by: isnadd | August 6, 2009 11:55 AM | Report abuse

there's a Nascar blog......

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 6, 2009 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Yes and no,
it exists but no one posts because hardcore Nascar fans don't know how to get on line.

Posted by: alex35332 | August 6, 2009 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Susanna Hoffs achlachlachlachalchl....

Walk like an Egyptian, indeed!

Posted by: DikShuttle | August 6, 2009 11:56 AM | Report abuse

they should do Yoga and/or some type of martial arts training, perhaps tai chi.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | August 6, 2009 11:51 AM

Not sure that guys would go for that. They tried to add a clause like that in Jason Taylor's contract and he quit and signed with Miami.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | August 6, 2009 11:56 AM | Report abuse

More 11-on-11 Work

The action continues, as first-, second- and third-team players alternate in and out of the lineup depending on packages.

Here's a sampling of the action:

Jason Campbell tossed a pass to the right sideline that was intercepted by Reed Doughty.
Chris Horton fended off a block by Jeremy Bridges at the line of scrimmage and got in position to tackle Clinton Portis.
Campbell faked a handoff to Ladell Betts, then waits for Betts to get open on a pass route. Perfect execution, as Betts is wide open along the right sideline. He catches the ball and turns up-field, avoiding a tackler in the process.
Reverse! Campbell hands off to Betts, who breaks right and hands off to Marques Hagans. Hagans runs around left end with Campbell was out in front providing the blocking. Assistant coach John Palermo yells at his defensive lineman for getting fooled on the play.
Todd Collins tosses a quick pass to Malcolm Kelly along the right sideline, but Kevin Barnes is there give him a hard shoulder tackle, shoving him out of bounds.
Mike Sellers ran a pass route and was in single coverage against Doughty. Colt Brennan's pass was a little late, but Sellers caught the ball and barrelled up-field.
Newcomer Michael Marquardt, signed on Wednesday, breaks free up the middle and would have had a certain sack on Brennan.

Posted by: Yoder-lay-hee-who | August 6, 2009 11:57 AM | Report abuse

So maybe, just maybe, the Packers will decide to attempt to restore their playoff mojo with a little (you guessed it) hair of the dog that bit them.

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 6, 2009 10:51 AM | Report

I think you are ignoring the fact that the QB they currently have would be a step up for most teams.

Posted by: scottmando | August 6, 2009 11:31 AM | Report abuse

I didn't write that, it was a cut and paste of Mike Florio's PFT blog, as it said right on the top of the post.


And Bean, are you really arguing that the whole offseason since they signed him all we've heard is how well Mike Williams moves and how if he gets his weight down he'd be competing for a starting spot? I mean...that's not really debatable is it? and neither is the fact that the only spot that has "improved" over last year's line that completely fell apart is Dockery who certainly is younger and more durable then Kendall but who knows how much better. Heyer (an injury history in the past is already injured) couldn't beat out Jansen last year and we have nothing behind him except Bridges who is a guard they are forcing to play tackle....Rhino better step up and step up big or we're in trouble.

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 6, 2009 11:59 AM | Report abuse

So I guess we can scratch Santana's "Running on Concrete" offseason workout plan as a good preventive measure for avoiding pulled hammies.

Stick with Gymkata, dude.

Posted by: McMetal | August 6, 2009 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Dan Snyder's to-do list (updated)

1. Remember to draft offensive linemen next year
2. Order Tai Chi for training staff.
3. Promote Vinny Cerrato.
4. Order new lifts.
5. Add tofu to Johnny Rocket's Menu.
6. Rethink Six Flags roller coaster based on "Julia & Juliet" flick.
7. Buy new string for ham.
8. Ask T. Cruise for updated Scientology brochure
9. Raise parking prices.
10. Ask SI why Campbell on cover, not me.

Posted by: TheCork | August 6, 2009 12:04 PM | Report abuse

oldmangibbs: "...is it just me, or does it almost seem like the Skins treat these nagging type injuries sooo cautiously, that perhaps that's part of the problem? If a player has a propensity for sore hamstrings, shouldn't they try building it up by using it, not taking days off just because it gets a little sore?"

If you have a history of hamstring injuries (strains, pulls, etc), then when you feel it getting sore, you should stop exercising.

The soreness is probably from doing too much too soon. Muscle fatigue, etc.

Flexibility exercises help. ion
Leg Length Differences.

Things you can do to help:
Use the RICE method. Elevate the leg. Take some NSAIDs. Do some exercises that are designed to gradually strengthen the involved muscle group.

The folks who say warm-up are correct. Some docs recommend running backwards (retro-running). That may help with associated knee pain.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 6, 2009 12:05 PM | Report abuse

We have more pulled hammies annually than all the other teams in the league combined!

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 6, 2009 12:05 PM | Report abuse

isnadd

WINNER!

Posted by: alex35332 | August 6, 2009 12:05 PM | Report abuse

do white guys pull hammy's too? ( just kidding couldn't resist)

Posted by: pabrian2003 | August 6, 2009 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Sure, just not their own.

Posted by: Original_etrod | August 6, 2009 12:06 PM | Report abuse

"Leg Length Differences"

Sorry for the fragment. Meant to explain that one common cause of hamstring problems is one length slightly shorter than another. If that's the case, you may have to take preventive measures on a continuing basis.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 6, 2009 12:07 PM | Report abuse

10. Ask SI why Campbell on cover, not me.

Posted by: TheCork | August 6, 2009 12:04 PM

Good one Cork.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | August 6, 2009 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Heyer (an injury history in the past is already injured) couldn't beat out Jansen last year

Funny, I recall Heyer being the starting Tackle on opening night against the Giants....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 6, 2009 12:09 PM | Report abuse

And where again did you get your medical degree?

Posted by: c_e_daniel | August 6, 2009 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Twitter down.
Facebook with transport errors.
Redskins falling like flies.

Posted by: isnadd

kinda like a Haiku -- but not quite

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 6, 2009 12:11 PM | Report abuse

We have more pulled hammies annually than all the other teams in the league combined!

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 6, 2009 12:05 PM

This is NOT and original thought. Angry Old Man Jack copied it from several other teams' blogs -- Green Bay, Atlanta, Cincinnati, Arizona, etc.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | August 6, 2009 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Let's keep this conversation civil "Leave the black white issue off the table" Why do the average american think white palyers are smarter that black players? Is that why 96.9% of the QB's in the NFL are white?

Posted by: whitepeopleareafraidtotalkaboutracialissues | August 6, 2009 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Well if you ask me I think that White players are smarter than black players and at the same time I would have to agree that Black players are smarter than White players

Posted by: GreatOne1 | August 6, 2009 12:18 PM | Report abuse

I hope no one is dumb enough to fall for this dudes trolling. He shows up under different names from time to time ITA!

Posted by: Gweez | August 6, 2009 12:18 PM | Report abuse

I'm calling BS on the hammys. They're not hurt! The hammy pull is the oldest trick in the book. They're just lazy and know the trick to get out of some training camp practices.

Posted by: REDneckSKINhead | August 6, 2009 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Newcomer Michael Marquardt, signed on Wednesday, breaks free up the middle and would have had a certain sack on Brennan.

so now even Marquardt, about the 111th DL on the depth chart is bringing the heat ... what a great DL we have!!!

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 6, 2009 12:19 PM | Report abuse

I forgot to add that players are smarter than coaches except for when coaches are smarter than players and women are smarter than men because men are smarter than women.

GO figure

Posted by: GreatOne1 | August 6, 2009 12:20 PM | Report abuse

There's a back to the future beep...previous article that wasn't there until now....

Posted by: dlhaze1 | August 6, 2009 12:20 PM | Report abuse

We have the most fragile receiving corps in US History.

Posted by: MadeRED | August 6, 2009 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Vince Young: "I will be in the Hall of Fame."

if he buys a ticket ...

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 6, 2009 12:22 PM | Report abuse

PIC CAPTION

Zorn to Portis:

"Zip it!"

"Let me tell ya a little story 'bout a man named ZIP!"

"When a problem comes along, you must ZIP IT!"

Posted by: Predator48 | August 6, 2009 12:23 PM | Report abuse

I believe by in large that women are smarter then men. I also believe that dogs are smarter then women.
-David Cross

Posted by: alex35332 | August 6, 2009 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Predator, that's exactly what I was thinking when I saw the pic of Zorn....good stuff!

Posted by: dlhaze1 | August 6, 2009 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Let's keep this conversation civil "Leave the black white issue off the table" Why do the average american think white palyers are smarter that black players? Is that why 96.9% of the QB's in the NFL are white?

I think Mark Sanchez is smarter than them all. Why when it comes to Race issues, do you like to only include Black and White, do you have something against the other races? Or are you just in favor of segregating them? Or is it just a subconscious thing and you cant help it.

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | August 6, 2009 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Heyer (an injury history in the past is already injured) couldn't beat out Jansen last year

Funny, I recall Heyer being the starting Tackle on opening night against the Giants....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 6, 2009 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Strange, do you remember the Giants rolling over our line and specifically Heyer and him then getting injured and losing his spot to Jansen, then when he returned healthy staying on the bench behind Jansen until Samuels was injured and that's when he got back on the field? I seem to remember all that...I seem to remember Zorn calling Jansen out in preseason and saying Heyer was the guy and then we get crushed against the Giants, and Heyer has a stupid personal foul against Docket in the Cardinals game that got Thomas one highlight of the season TD called back and then he was gone till Samuels got hurt. Now all of a sudden he's a major upgrade at RT? And even if he is, he's proven to be not the most durable guy on the field which is the same with Samuels and we cut Jansen with the backup plans of Mike Williams and an out of position guard???? Great management once again, it isn't out of the realm of possibility that guys with injury histories like Samuels and Heyer could both get hurt who exactly would play then?

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 6, 2009 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Can we please just pick up Levi Jones and just tell Heyer its an open competition so his feelings dont get hurt too much. Right now Heyer knows he can sit on his ass all camp cuz big Mike Williams aint taking his spot. And as far as the Randy Thomas situation goes, I think he could be done dude, i really hope not but im so shaky with him, pick up Jones, start Bridges.. Jones, Bridges, Rabach, Dock, Samuels..I can live with that, Rinehart, Thomas, and Heyer as primary backups

Posted by: jeffco01 | August 6, 2009 12:31 PM | Report abuse

AMEN Great One.

I don't understand why we have to have such a shti training staff who let this go on year after year.

I would LOOOVE some one to stat up our injury occurrance vs. teams like the Dolphins.

Posted by: DikShuttle

when bubba tyer retired it was a big loss for the training staff

Posted by: pabrian2003 | August 6, 2009 12:34 PM | Report abuse

lets clear something up, that personal foul on Heyer in the cardinals game was not that stupid. If you go back and watch the film Heyer hit dockett because he took a cheap shot on Clinton portis the play before and he was taking up for his teamate. It was a dumb penalty but I will take that type of penalty any day from my lineman letting the opposing defense know that if you mess with my teamate im going to let you know about it

Posted by: GreatOne1 | August 6, 2009 12:35 PM | Report abuse


Heyer (an injury history in the past is already injured) couldn't beat out Jansen last year

Funny, I recall Heyer being the starting Tackle on opening night against the Giants....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 6, 2009 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Strange, do you remember the Giants rolling over our line and specifically Heyer and him then getting injured and losing his spot to Jansen, then when he returned healthy staying on the bench behind Jansen until Samuels was injured and that's when he got back on the field? I seem to remember all that...I seem to remember Zorn calling Jansen out in preseason and saying Heyer was the guy and then we get crushed against the Giants, and Heyer has a stupid personal foul against Docket in the Cardinals game that got Thomas one highlight of the season TD called back and then he was gone till Samuels got hurt. Now all of a sudden he's a major upgrade at RT? And even if he is, he's proven to be not the most durable guy on the field which is the same with Samuels and we cut Jansen with the backup plans of Mike Williams and an out of position guard???? Great management once again, it isn't out of the realm of possibility that guys with injury histories like Samuels and Heyer could both get hurt who exactly would play then?


In terms of Heyer...it is called progression...You know it is what usually happens when a young player works hard during the off season and gains more experience...For an undrafted rook to even start in his second year is usually unheard of. I think he will be a legit starter this year (save for injuries)...

In terms of depth...I agree with you completely. We need to go sign someone like runyan. Granted he is old, but he is a vet w/ starting experience (esp. in the nfc east). He would be an upgrade at tackle better then anyone else we have on the 2nd string.

Posted by: merajc86 | August 6, 2009 12:36 PM | Report abuse

tough question worth lots of RI bonus points:

Who said to who?

"its also been proven that light skin blacks are smarter than dark skin blacks"

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 6, 2009 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Jeffco, I too am for getting Levi, but everything I read says he wants to be basically guaranteed a starting spot, and naturally starter-type pay. I don’t think that the skins could come to terms with the guy, unless it gets into September and the guy still has no job. I am also for signing Runyan to a short/cheap deal if he can pass the physical. I think I would actually rather get Runyan for 1 yr and then draft a starter next year…..

Posted by: dlhaze1 | August 6, 2009 12:37 PM | Report abuse

"Thomas and Kelly are SOFT! Wasted picks."

Here's the thing that gets me on that. The draft last year was weak on WR's and what do the Skins do? Draft two of them.

OL was strong last year in the draft and the Skins take nobody.

Ok, go back two years ago. Landry is a fine saftey, but NOT a top 10 pick. The Skins could have had either a quality DL/OL at that pick.

Vinny is dumb when it comes to football. Sorry bud, but you really are. Just accept it.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | August 6, 2009 12:39 PM | Report abuse

ZE - I was thinking of that same line but just couldn't bring myself to post it.

SNL - I don't know the guys name but he said it to Garret Morris....

Posted by: dlhaze1 | August 6, 2009 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Do you think Zorn will last the year.
He should take vinny with him when he goes.

Posted by: jmy999 | August 6, 2009 12:40 PM | Report abuse

"its also been proven that light skin blacks are smarter than dark skin blacks"

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 6, 2009 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Bill Cosby?

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | August 6, 2009 12:40 PM | Report abuse

"I think he will be a legit starter this year (save for injuries)..."

Dude, you sound liike Bugel.

Stop trying to shine a turd, it doesn't work.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | August 6, 2009 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Clearly the plan for the OL is not to have a plan.

We do have an adequate 3rd WR in Hackett, even if Thomas tanks.

ARE + Hackett isn't exactly Breaston + Boldin ... but

ARE + Hackett as #2 & #3 WRs is adequate for this team to have an effective passing offense.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 6, 2009 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Someone tell Jason Campbell to hang it up. Vince Young pretty much let us know we are in line behind him. Someone also let the Eagles, Raiders and Vikings know. And anyone else I left off.....

Vince Young has had a lot of ups and downs in his football career (mostly ups at Texas, mostly downs in Tennessee) but he's always remained one thing: a very talented athlete. So it's no surprise that when he sat down with Esquire: "I don't know when I'll start again. But I will be the next black quarterback to win a Super Bowl. And I will be in the Hall of Fame."

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | August 6, 2009 12:44 PM | Report abuse

dh ... you got half of it right -- can still recall the look on Morris's face ...

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 6, 2009 12:45 PM | Report abuse

dh ... you got half of it right -- can still recall the look on Morris's face ...

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 6, 2009 12:45 PM

"Say whaaaaat???!!!"

Posted by: dlhaze1 | August 6, 2009 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Proof of humor in this blog:

Vince Young: "I will be in the Hall of Fame."

if he buys a ticket ...

Posted by: zcezcest1

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 6, 2009 12:47 PM | Report abuse

That Mark Sanchez statement is interesting. Let's face it guys Latinos do work harder than blacks. I can vouch for that, my lawn guy does way better job that I could ever do with the same equipment. It's no knock on us black folks, just a pure fact.

Posted by: whitepeopleareafraidtotalkaboutracialissues | August 6, 2009 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Actually the picture dialog went like this:

Zorn: Anyone seen Dan Snyder this morning?
Vinny: Who?
Zorn: Dan Snyder, our boss.
Vinny: What's he look like?
Zorn: Dark hair, about this tall.

Posted by: isnadd | August 6, 2009 11:55 AM


Very funny !!!!

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 6, 2009 12:47 PM | Report abuse

fwiw, the iggles have had a very rough camp. Very rough. Their MLB, Bradley, is lost for the year, a DE (Parker) just got busted for marijuana and of course, their great D/C,Jim Johnson passed away.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 6, 2009 12:52 PM | Report abuse

maybe the pic is of Zorn posing for one of those 'You must be this tall to ride' signs at Six Flags.

Posted by: Original_etrod | August 6, 2009 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Take it from me, Malcom Kelly has all the talent of James Thrash except for the ability to play on special teams.

Posted by: shoveit | August 6, 2009 12:56 PM | Report abuse

maybe the pic is of Zorn posing for one of those 'You must be this tall to ride' signs at Six Flags.

Posted by: Original_etrod | August 6, 2009 12:55 PM | Report abuse

And he is telling it to Snyder.

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | August 6, 2009 12:57 PM | Report abuse

In terms of Heyer...it is called progression...You know it is what usually happens when a young player works hard during the off season and gains more experience...For an undrafted rook to even start in his second year is usually unheard of. I think he will be a legit starter this year (save for injuries)...

In terms of depth...I agree with you completely. We need to go sign someone like runyan. Granted he is old, but he is a vet w/ starting experience (esp. in the nfc east). He would be an upgrade at tackle better then anyone else we have on the 2nd string.

Posted by: merajc86 | August 6, 2009 12:36 PM | Report abuse

I completely get that Heyer has probably improved and given what was/is on our roster should be the starter. Even if Jansen was still here he would be, I get that, support that, agree with that and blah blah blah....but to expect that he is suddenly a major upgrade and an above average RT in this league is expecting a lot. And while I hated watching Jansen at times last year he still would have been half decent depth behind Samuels and Heyer in case one or both got hurt. Right now we have no depth behind them besides out of position Bridges and some guy named Burley. I have to believe/hope that a move will be made soon, they can't really be thinking this is good enough for a 16 game season....Jonas Jennings, Mark Columbo, Mark Tauscher, Runyan any of these guys or any two of these guys would be cheap additions to give us a little bit of depth behind Samuels and Heyer. I want Levi Jones but he will get paid starter money, personally I think we need a starter at RT and since we refuse to draft lineman we should go ahead and sign a starter, but if we want the cheap route any of those four would be better than what we have. A legit tackle to be the backup and then Rhino and Bridges at guard and Bridges at tackle if necessary in a calamity situation of both Samuels and Heyer hurt makes so much more sense than what we have now.

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 6, 2009 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Twitter and Facebook are under attack, if you do not already know this.

Anyone else think BBM got $97M because JC17 is still unsigned and Danny might be shopping for a new QB next year? Philip Rivers should be happy too... if he is able to sign a new deal

Posted by: noonefromtampa | August 6, 2009 1:08 PM | Report abuse

zJack, I think Columbo is under contract (and mixing it up in camp). Tauscher and Runyan are not ... because both had knee surgeries at the end of or just after this past season.

Posted by: dcsween | August 6, 2009 2:07 PM | Report abuse

My grandmother aint as fragile as those 2 guys. Cut them please. Even if the skins replaced them with special team’s players, at least we would have somebody more reliable. I’m tried of hearing about their potential. The road to hell is paved with "potential"

Posted by: dc4life | August 6, 2009 3:16 PM | Report abuse

tough question worth lots of RI bonus points:

Who said to who?

"its also been proven that light skin blacks are smarter than dark skin blacks"

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 6, 2009 12:36 PM
========================================
It was Julian Bond in a skit with Garret Morris on Saturday Night Live.

Posted by: clark202 | August 6, 2009 3:38 PM | Report abuse

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