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Redskins release WR Devin Thomas

UPDATE, 5:07 p.m.: The Redskins announced that they've signed Keiland Williams to the 53-man roster to replace Thomas.
UPDATE, 1:54 p.m.: Thomas talks to Jason Reid about being released here.

The Redskins have released Devin Thomas, the third-year receiver who came to Washington with lofty expectations and leaves without having had a single reception in 2010.

Thomas, who started 10 games under Jim Zorn in 2009, has been buried on the depth chart under Mike Shanahan but had been serving as the team's top kick returner. He lined up as a receiver just once in the first four games of 2010.

The Redskins had been trying to trade Thomas but unable to work out a deal, they've instead released him. Running back Keiland Williams will take Thomas's place on the 53-man roster and is expected to play on Sunday, according to a league source.

"Whether it's here or somewhere else, I'm going to keep pushing to be a main contributor and play," Thomas said last week. "I'm going to keep doing what I got to do, because I know I can play this game."

Thomas tried to maintain a positive attitude this season, despite his lack of playing time. But the frustration grew as it became increasingly clear that Shanahan didn't see a place in the Redskins' offense for the Michigan State product.

"I have the talent. I have the abilities. I know the scheme. You know, I have the mentality. I have everything, you know, all the intangibles to do it," Thomas told LaVar Arrington last week on DC50's "SportsWeek." "But for some reason I can't get the chance on the field. The coaches do not believe in me to make the plays."

One of three pass catchers Vinny Cerrato selected in the second round of the 2008 NFL Draft, Thomas appeared in 34 games for the Redskins. He leaves with 445 yards and three touchdowns on 40 receptions.

He returned 12 kicks this season, averaging 28 yards per return. He brought one back for 42 yards, but Shanahan apparently didn't think he could afford to have two receivers who served primarily as return specialists. The Redskins used undrafted rookie Brandon Banks to return punts last week at Philadelphia, and Banks could be the leading candidate to return kicks Sunday against Green Bay.

Thomas was the 34th overall selection in the 2008 draft and arrived in Washington along with Malcolm Kelly and Fred Davis. While Davis has been contributing as the team's No. 2 tight end, Kelly has also struggled to find a place with the Redskins and was placed on injured reserves prior to the 2010 season.

By Rick Maese  | October 9, 2010; 11:20 AM ET
Categories:  Devin Thomas, wide receivers  
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Comments

"buried under on the depth chart"

behind the likes of roydell and joey. very sad.

Posted by: rachel216 | October 9, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

WOW! Bet he doesn't stay on the open market for long. Doubt we'll get him back.

Posted by: bones21 | October 9, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

I wish him well, but thank God the current FO doesn't feel beholden to the mistakes of the past.

Posted by: brudlee5 | October 9, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse


But for now, Fred Davis is the next Class of '08 member on the clock....

agree moe, Fd has yet to prove himself, and I'll say this year so we don't have all the bleeding hearts posting last years stats.

SHOW ME SOMETHING THIS YEAR !

Posted by: hessone | October 9, 2010 11:33 AM | Report abuse

I can't wait for Anthony Armstrong,Joey Galloway and Roydell Williams to start killing it catching TDs and stretching the field; seriously, I'm tired of waiting for these clowns to catch at least 1 TD this season. hopefully Banks bails Shanny out and proves he can do something on offense b/c i don't see much out of the scrap-heap of wrs we have out there right now.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | October 9, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse


oh bean, where are you bean ?

Posted by: hessone | October 9, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

I think NO should take a look at him maybe San Diego or Detroit

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | October 9, 2010 11:38 AM | Report abuse

I don't think they intend to get him back.

Posted by: will_ga | October 9, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse

What a joke, DT never got a.fair shake with this group. Got a feeling this will come back to haunt us

Posted by: DMoney28 | October 9, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse

I remember, as I'm sure you all do too, the day we drafted Kelly and Thomas.

I was hurt, confused, shocked, dazed even, at how Cerrato could do this.

And then I decided to think positively. As in surely, one of these 2 guys MUST pan out right?

Little did I know that I was setting myself up to be in a Hertz commercial:

"Not Exactly...."

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | October 9, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

This will hurt Cerato's chances for the Hall of Fame. At least he hit it big with Malcolm Kelly.

Posted by: josettes | October 9, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Galloway was washed up, when The Suc-a-Bucs (Tampa Bay) released him.

Get rid of the overpriced veterans & give the youngins a chance to prove themselves.

Posted by: Robbnitafl | October 9, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse

It's surely just a matter of time before Vinny gets a new player personnel position.

As in "fovever."

Posted by: sparman | October 9, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse

DMoney...

With all due respect, the only "Joke" is that you are afraid Devin Thomas will ever come back to haunt us.

The only thing DT11 will be haunting is a sideline in the UFL.

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | October 9, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Well, the inevitable happened. I had high hopes for Devin, but I have no idea what is going on in the inside. I would hate to see Devin become the next Brandon Lloyd. Too bad the Redskins couldn't get anything for a trade, but that's bound to happen when a player has no playing time.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | October 9, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Gibbs didn't play Brandon Lloyd while he was here either. # yrs later he's 2nd in the league in receiving. i don't think it'll take DT 3 yrs to make an impact somewhere else. Considering the dysfunction of the Zorn era coupled with him getting no run under Shanny, i really don'think he's gotten the best shot. Oh well one man's trash is another man's treasure.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | October 9, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Wow. I'm not very surprised by the cut, but I am disappointed. For what ever reason, the chemistry never clicked between Devin and this coaching staff. Hopefully he will get another start with a new team soon.

Posted by: TWISI | October 9, 2010 11:46 AM | Report abuse

You telling me we couldnt have gotten a 5th or 6th round pick at least

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 9, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

I don't get it. There's got to be more to this story.

Posted by: AdamCr | October 9, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Good news for Brandon Banks.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | October 9, 2010 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Can't say I am surprised. Dude just did not get it.

Ah, Vinny Cerrato, the gift that keeps on giving...

Posted by: Curzon417 | October 9, 2010 11:49 AM | Report abuse

@Bones, he won't stay on the open market long, but that's because his contract is league minimum. The Skins were shopping him around for a late draft pick, and other league scouts didn't bite. That speaks volumes, and is reminiscent of Campbell.

What's ironic in all this is that the 2008 draft was one of the few where the national "gurus" gave us high marks. I was scratching my head then and I'm still scratching it.

Posted by: messykat | October 9, 2010 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Are you kidding me. There is no way he is worse than Galloway. Galloway SUCKS. Galloway is a washed up bum. I can not stand it when talent is released over a coaches pet. Suck coaches noodle more Galloway, it is working!

Posted by: Michael_ASU | October 9, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse


Get rid of the overpriced veterans & give the youngins a chance to prove themselves.

most of the youngins are cerrato's boys. we must retain our draft picks and build through the draft. when we take this approach it will then take 3 years to field a decent team. at year 2 we add the fa's to compliment the nucleus that will then win a championship, OR, proceed like this past year and years past in which we trade picks for older and used up veteran's to WIN NOW. what is so hard to understand about this method of building a team in order to win a championship ?

the bleeding hearts will tell you what a great deal we got for DMcnabb and JBrown. big deal

Posted by: hessone | October 9, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse

boy....extremely disappointing. DT has exactly the "specs" of a receiver we need: big, strong, fast, good hands. disappointing, disappointing.

i suppose, as with marko mitchel, we'll keep tabs on DT's employment status to determine whether we gave up on DT too soon, or not soon enough. if i entirely trusted shanny and shanny as personnel men, i wouldn't need to "keep tabs", but wow... DT can't even make the team on a team with crappy (other than moss) wide receivers.....

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | October 9, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

You telling me we couldnt have gotten a 5th or 6th round pick at least

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 9, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Not even a 7th.

Posted by: frediefritz | October 9, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Michael_ASU, I think you are mistaking potential for talent. If DT had talent, RWilliams would not be on this team.

Posted by: Curzon417 | October 9, 2010 11:56 AM | Report abuse

devin, devin, devin....you can't get separated from the DB's to be a part of the passing game despite two different offensive schemes and coordinators trying to teach you how. When you do catch the ball, you are very easy to tackle - just look at your yardage gained after the catch. good luck in your future endeavors - another example of Vinny's abilities to scout players....

Posted by: outrbnksm | October 9, 2010 11:57 AM | Report abuse

I hope we win tomorrow with big contributions from our Motley Crew of vets and castoffs in the WR corps, cuz if our passing game struggles i dunno what Shanny will be able to tell us. He's gotten over with strong performances in other areas, and wins in key games, but the passing game has struggled at times this season and teams (as they have been for the past 4 seasons or so) are gonna play us to shut down Moss and dare these clowns to beat them. Without CP and a clear idea of what the running game is gonna be, or his pass blocking I think our offense may really struggle going forward.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | October 9, 2010 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Rich Campbell said professionalism was a reason why he was released...

Posted by: rachel216 | October 9, 2010 11:58 AM | Report abuse

WOW! Bet he doesn't stay on the open market for long. Doubt we'll get him back.

Posted by: bones21 | October 9, 2010 11:32 AM

Why would we want him back. When you discard garbage, do you bring it back in your house a few days later?

Move on from this..

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 9, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Wouldn't surprise me if Ravens claim him on waivers.

Posted by: frediefritz | October 9, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Lilhollywood...

What? Nice try at revising history, but Lloyd started 12 out of 15 games he was healthy his first year w/Gibbs. You may remember that by all statistical analysis he had "The worst year of any starting WR in the SuperBowl era" that year. Those are not my words, they are from NFL.com.

In his second year he was made inactive due to missed meetings and then snapped his collarbone.

How is this Gibbs "not giving him a chance?"

For everyone comparing DT to Lloyd:

What were we supposed to do? hang on to him for 3.5 more unproductive years waiting for him to wake up?

And, BTW he has 4 good games so far. I'm not ready to call him an elite receiver yet.

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | October 9, 2010 12:00 PM | Report abuse

You telling me we couldnt have gotten a 5th or 6th round pick at least

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 9, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Not even a 7th.

Posted by: frediefritz

Why would any team give us anything?! He doesn't even have game film for other team's to see and have interest in him. No one will give us anything when they know we don't even want him.

Posted by: rachel216 | October 9, 2010 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Rich Campbell said professionalism was a reason why he was released...

Posted by: rachel216 | October 9, 2010 11:58 AM | Report abuse

I hope he goes to New England, they got room for another WR and can definitely deal with any "professionalism" issues, lmao.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | October 9, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse

SORRY THAT'S JUST STUPID. PLAIN F-ING STUPID

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | October 9, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Why hasn't an NFL team hired Vinny Cerrato?

Posted by: nativedc | October 9, 2010 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Wow. The handling of Thomas by ShanahAllen has been as incompetent as Cerratto's drafting of him. There was genuine interest in Thomas during the pre-season. We could have gotten someone/a pick for him... then. We also could have gotten someone for Haynesworth, before we decided to make an example of him at the expense of any trade value he/we might have had. There are two tiers to running an NFL team: 1) the actual sports side of it (Thomas doesn't fit into Shanahan's plan, etc.) and 2) Assembling and maximizing the talent already there. Shanahan's tough love approach to the former has severely crippled the effectiveness of the latter. Coupled with a mediocre draft (Riley, Morris, Austin, Cook, Capers?... a couple solid vets, albeit older w/ injury history (Jamal Brown), older and still unsigned for next year (McNabb) and Carriker (injury history), I have not been too impressed with the early returns on Allen. We are still the oldest team in the NFL and just gave away a formerly tradeable young talent for nothing in favor of last leg Galloway on the roster. I do not see the master planning and scheming needed to build a contender, but rather rash, bull-headed, short-sightedness.

Posted by: SammyT1 | October 9, 2010 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone actually know what this guy did to put himself in such a dog house with Shanny? All I've seen is JReid's typical commetary on him, but no actual details. Wow - there has to be some dirt here we aren't aware of. Cannot believe this guy is so bad he couldn't claw his way into the starting line up with our complete lack of talent at the WR position!

Posted by: OldManGibbs | October 9, 2010 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Devin Thomas is garbage?

Then what - pray tell - would you call Galloway, Williams and Armstrong?

Old man Joey can't catch a cold most Sundays and Williams doesn't even have a specialty (out, curl, comeback). Armstrong fell when he had his biggest moment to shine so far.

Garbage? Really?

Posted by: elfreako | October 9, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

IDIOTS!!!! Guarantee Thomas will be productive before long... I just don't understand Mike Shanahan's ways... We should of never had Thomas anyway, we should of drafted DeSean Jackson... Screw you Vinnie!!!

Posted by: tony325 | October 9, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | October 9, 2010 12:00 PM | Report abuse

No worries it'll play out on the field. If we're better off making this move then so be it, but if weend up equal or worse then the move was pointless, unless you just really didn't like the guy.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | October 9, 2010 12:05 PM | Report abuse

How many catches do Joey and Roydell have this year? 3? Give the rookie wr from UCLA a shot.

Posted by: coparker5 | October 9, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Michael_ASU, I think you are mistaking potential for talent. If DT had talent, RWilliams would not be on this team.

Posted by: Curzon417 | October 9, 2010 11:56 AM | Report abuse


Galloway and Roydell don't have talent or potential. At least they practice hard, I guess.

Whatever they lack in ability, they make up for in good intentions.

Posted by: Original_etrod | October 9, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

He must have done something to royally piss off the Shanahans. No other reason you don't try to salvage a 2nd round pick with his physical gifts. There's no place for him in any package? C'mon.

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | October 9, 2010 12:07 PM | Report abuse

The Skins are in a world of hurt, next year at WR. Moss is a FA, Galloway too old, Kelly to hurt, Williams not special, and a bunch of justaguys. Hopefully AA shows he really belongs. Not a good situation.

Posted by: TWISI | October 9, 2010 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Freako...

Armstrong's catch was a great catch. The throw was to his outside shoulder and the adjustment he had to make forced his momentum to the right and outside. Just catching that ball was epic, he did not "Fall down". Were you watching the game?

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | October 9, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Let's not fool ourselves and question DT talents because this coaching group does not think that he can play. I don't know what is going on with Shanny but it is not "genius at work". We were led to believe that DT, MK and FD could not play during the Zorn era, but when FD played because of Cooley's injury we discovered that we had an awesome TE in the wings. FD has seen very few snaps under Shanny and could be the next "all things Vinny" to go. Shanny is very loyal to those that he drafted or those that played for him or his son. That is the case with Gross-man, Lichenass, ATV, Galloway, Williams and the 3-4 defense. We are not re-building, we are recycling. DT will catch on with someone else, make no mistake about that. At the very least, he was in the top 10 in kick-off returns. Shanny has done some decent things since coming here - he has done some things that defy logic. Stay tuned....

Posted by: SPUD2 | October 9, 2010 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Lets give the Panthers Andre Carter and Keiland and our 1st next year for Steve Smith and Deangelo Williams.

Posted by: TheFuzzyClam | October 9, 2010 12:10 PM | Report abuse

I will bet the receiver's coach, Keenon McCardell, has a lot to do with this decision. He was probably sticking up for his fellow "Geriatric" teammates and never gave any praise for the young man. Too bad, he will definitely come back and become a real receiver just like Brandon Lloyd. This coaching staff is either too "Stubborn" or too "Blind" to evaluate talent. Allen should have got at least a 6th rounder for him.

Posted by: JohnWWW | October 9, 2010 12:10 PM | Report abuse

. We should of never had Thomas anyway, we should of drafted DeSean Jackson... Screw you Vinnie!!!

Posted by: tony325 | October 9, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

With ZORN calling plays into our quaterback Jason Campbell, who then had to operate behind OUR offensive line DeSean jackson would've been Devin Thomas.But jackson also didn't have a "productive" vetran receiving corps ahead of hi when he was drafted.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | October 9, 2010 12:10 PM | Report abuse

3 picks in the 2nd round just 2 1/2 years ago and all the Skins are left w/ is a #2 TE? The Shanahans + McCardell obviously weren't impressed w/ this guy. He must've been pretty bad to get released from this receiver-hungry team.

Posted by: randysbailin | October 9, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Another 2nd round bust for the Dano's GMing/fantasy!

Why The Scowl - (Shan-senior) couldn't convince the lil' Dano to do the same with Kelly, is beyond belief.

When a quality draft pick/player like Clay Matthews shows his stuff this Sunday and makes The-Empty-Soup-Can-Donovan, look his age, we will see what quality Gm'ing can do. 'Better have your helmet ready Dono. Do I hear another Ralllllph coming up?

Dano will still have his check book out to sign the old Soup-Can for another three years - because he's afraid of using his second (and third) pick on a young QB (even with George Allen's son now playing the puppet!).

Posted by: duru44 | October 9, 2010 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Armstrong's catch was a great catch. The throw was to his outside shoulder and the adjustment he had to make forced his momentum to the right and outside. Just catching that ball was epic, he did not "Fall down". Were you watching the game?

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | October 9, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse
__________________________

You can easily look at that play 2 different ways... first time I saw it, I had this opinion, but the second time I saw it, I felt he could of run a little to the right, caught the ball & scored.

Posted by: tony325 | October 9, 2010 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Vinny Cerrato already had solidified his position as the worst GM in years — maybe ever — with his braindead draft picks and personnel moves, but unless there was something behind the scenes we don't know about (fighting with teammates and coaches, habitually being late to meetings, lack of effort, etc.), cutting Thomas in favor of Roydell Williams and Father Time (Joey Galloway) is a significant mistake that falls solely on Shanahan.

It's hard to judge Williams, because he never does anything, and Galloway has made a few plays ... but he's 871 years old. If you're building a team, it makes zero sense. It's like trading draft picks to a division rival for a quarterback who is in his mid-30s and seems more and more likely to head to Minnesota in a year.

Oh, wait ....

Posted by: DC2Dallas | October 9, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Was he out partying all week and sleeping during meetings?

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | October 9, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Come on guys, let's not make DT out to be Leigh Torrence.

Posted by: Curzon417 | October 9, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Armstrong's catch was a great catch. The throw was to his outside shoulder and the adjustment he had to make forced his momentum to the right and outside. Just catching that ball was epic, he did not "Fall down". Were you watching the game?

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | October 9, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

didn't see the catch as Epic by any stretch, but his inability to stay on his feet could've been one of those plays that comes down to being the difference in the game.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | October 9, 2010 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Time will tell about this move,why not give him a chance? as the old school saying goes "let him cut himself" It wasn't as if everyone else was making DT look like a fool but the other side is he and Malcom Kelly already had two strikes against them what with the both of them comming to camp as rookies out of shape and then having trouble learning the playbook. This was a surprising move and imho not a smart one on the Skins part.

Posted by: dargregmag | October 9, 2010 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Armstrong's catch was a great catch. The throw was to his outside shoulder and the adjustment he had to make forced his momentum to the right and outside. Just catching that ball was epic, he did not "Fall down". Were you watching the game?

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | October 9, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

didn't see the catch as Epic by any stretch, but his inability to stay on his feet could've been one of those plays that comes down to being the difference in the game.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | October 9, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Glad to see the trash from the past being taken out and thrown out.

This coaching staff is not going to allow this roster to fester with dead weight. Granted our remaining receiver corps more resemble corpses than performers, but we cannot be stocked with people too stupid or too unwilling to cooperate. I too would love to see our rookies that we drafted this year to be activated and to be allowed to show if they are decent or not - and I think they will. Clearly this dismissal has a secondary factor of sending a message to the rest of the team that if you don't bust your ass, you won't be here. Nothing sends a message quicker than a firing.

Posted by: laserwizard | October 9, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Armstrong fell when he had his biggest moment to shine so far.

Garbage? Really?

Posted by: elfreako | October 9, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

At least he was open and caught the ball.

Posted by: frediefritz | October 9, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Lets give the Panthers Andre Carter and Keiland and our 1st next year for Steve Smith and Deangelo Williams.

Posted by: TheFuzzyClam | October 9, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps the biggest mystery here is the fact that some media outlet will consult Vinny Cerrato as an "expert" and local media wonks will continue to hail Shanahan for his "shrewd eye for talent."

Posted by: DC2Dallas | October 9, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Don't tell BeanTGreg until we've found out what kind of day he's having.

He could take this one pretty hard...

Posted by: p1funk | October 9, 2010 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Pfunk, beantown does not watch the games, so he will not know until Monday...

Posted by: Curzon417 | October 9, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Why don't we hire one of these know it all personnel people from up here on the blog? It would be just like rehiring Vinny. After all he brought us Devin Thomas and all these other clowns think he's so great so why not? Seriously, you guys are a joke. "This will come back to haunt us" or "This is just like letting Brandon Lloyd go and now look, 3 years later." Are you phukin' 5? Who's the idiot that wanted to wait years for Blloyd to pull his head out of his ass? And now we should wait another 3 for DT? Get the phuk outta here with that garbage. He may go somewhere and make an impact...but he wasn't HERE!

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 9, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

At least he was open and caught the ball.

Posted by: frediefritz | October 9, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse

and promptly fell down when confronted with the reality of having to continue running after the ball was caught. He fell and it cost 6, it's ok but I really hope AA can consistently make plays because we have NO playmakers on offense but our QB, maybe Cooley.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | October 9, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Was he out partying all week and sleeping during meetings?

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | October 9, 2010 12:13 PM

Speaking of partying..

Portis, Hall, & Moss were at Charlestown playing craps last night.

Shake em up, skake em up, shake em.

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 9, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Lets give the Panthers Andre Carter and Keiland and our 1st next year for Steve Smith and Deangelo Williams.

Posted by: TheFuzzyClam | October 9, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Really? That would be stupid. You must not have thought that through. A 1st round pick? What? Am I alone on this?

Posted by: Copious1 | October 9, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Was he out partying all week and sleeping during meetings?

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | October 9, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse


A picture (or a teammate's cell phone photo) paints a thousand words...

http://slumz.boxden.com/f16/imagine-if-your-teams-wr-sleeping-during-team-meeting-1412476/

Posted by: p1funk | October 9, 2010 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Armstrong's catch was a great catch. The throw was to his outside shoulder and the adjustment he had to make forced his momentum to the right and outside. Just catching that ball was epic, he did not "Fall down". Were you watching the game?

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | October 9, 2010 12:09 PM


Were you watching the game? That catch wasn't even close to epic. This is the NFL. He should have made that catch and scored. He also dropped the fade thrown to him in the end zone in the Dallas game. He hasn't impressed me so far.

Posted by: Rusty6392 | October 9, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

A picture (or a teammate's cell phone photo) paints a thousand words...

http://slumz.boxden.com/f16/imagine-if-your-teams-wr-sleeping-during-team-meeting-1412476/

Posted by: p1funk | October 9, 2010 12:23 PM

Have we been calling the wrong guy sleepy all this time? Sheesh!

Posted by: Curzon417 | October 9, 2010 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Let the rebuild begin!!!

Portis is done! Thomas is out! Who's next? What is Shanahan thinking? I mean you give up a second round pick for McNabb and you give him nothing in the way of a running game, NOO recievers to speak of! You don't involve your tightends(the only real offensive weapons on this team). You keep a guy like Kelly on the team thru IR but kick Devin Thomas out on his can? REALLY? Joey Gallaway? Nothing Shanahan has done makes any sense to me. Willie Parker gone! After five carries...Larry Johnson GONE! Now Portis is most likely done for an extended period and prolly out of Washington next year so what do we have in our backfield? A guy off the practice squad? REALLY? Someone tell me that's really Jim Zorn on the sidelines in a Mike Shanahan costume!

So what are the Redskins fans left with in the way of hope? There are so many questions on this team it would take a Harvard Professor the better part of his life to answer let alone an egomaniac named Mike Shanahan! I think the only way Haynesworth is still on this roster is because the Danny won't let him gao after he took that 21 million in April. Other wise he would have been released.

Back to our terrible pass recievers for a minute. Randy Moss was out there wanting to be traded and why didn't The Danny and his bag of cash go get him? I mean we give up draft picks for breakfast! Moss would have only cost us a THIRD ROUND pick! That's why Thomas was let go and not traded. He had no value after Shanahan made him a bench boy.

Shanahan has missed on so many levels I cannot imagine a scenario where he is with this team after year three! It has become apparent to me that Shanahan cannnot get out of his own way! He had the offseason, training camp, and the pre-season to evaulate the talent on this team and he has done a terrible job of it. As I recall this was the knock on him after he was FIRED by the Broncos! Seems those assertions are true!

Posted by: ekbinion68 | October 9, 2010 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Really? That would be stupid. You must not have thought that through. A 1st round pick? What? Am I alone on this?

Posted by: Copious1 | October 9, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

You get two starters who are not that old, both of which are positions of needs. Yes you lose that first round pick, but you gain Smith and Williams

Posted by: TheFuzzyClam | October 9, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Portis, Hall, & Moss were at Charlestown playing craps last night.

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 9, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse


The words "Portis", "playing" and "crap", definitely belong in the same sentence together.

Posted by: p1funk | October 9, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

We should of never had Thomas anyway, we should of drafted DeSean Jackson... Screw you Vinnie!!!

Posted by: tony325 | October 9, 2010 12:04 PM

We shoulda had oline...and lot's of it.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 9, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Devin Thomas is a talent. Don't ever get in Shanahan's dog house; you never get out. He will catch on some where and be productive. Guaranteed. Actually, this is the best thing that could have happened to him. The Redskins are dysfunctional.

Posted by: faygokid | October 9, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Bring up Terrence Austin!

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | October 9, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 9, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse


So while you're toeing the party line what are we gonna do for wide receivers?Because cutting a guy who doesn't play hardly solves the problem we have getting production out of the guys who do play. Santana was shut down last week Donovan throws under 200 yds, but the previously non existent running game shows up and gives you 125 and we escape on the last play of the game against a middle of the road team without it's best player. Good luck against GB and the Colts. I luv my Skins and one player would never make me jump ship, but this one doesn't pass the smell test, especially when you consider that DT11 was our best kick returner in the past, i dunno, 10 yrs . I hope Banks can bring it on returns and stay healthy, cuz if not we lost a lil bit in the field position game.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | October 9, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Actually, Dano (and his puppet Bruce) should have packaged Thomas and Haynesworth(less) together to get a ham sandwich -- with cheese, meaning a 5th AND sixth rounder!!!!!

But alas, The Dano knows, easy got, easy spent; he'll make more, just like Doritos! Heck, the drunken fans will never even know the prices of their seats, parking, drinks, cigars, and life-like images of The Dano Himself, have gone up. And always a losing team on the field too. . .only in Danoland!!!!!

Posted by: duru44 | October 9, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

I think most logical fans would agree that Shannallen get a pass this year for what they inherited. Lets let them have a little time to make some moves and make this team better. It is obvious that ShannAllen feel that just about every Cerrato move was horrible.

Posted by: TheFuzzyClam | October 9, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Bring up Terrence Austin!

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | October 9, 2010 12:27 PM


I agree. Why not give him a shot?

Posted by: Rusty6392 | October 9, 2010 12:33 PM | Report abuse

With ZORN calling plays into our quaterback Jason Campbell, who then had to operate behind OUR offensive line DeSean jackson would've been Devin Thomas.But jackson also didn't have a "productive" vetran receiving corps ahead of hi when he was drafted.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | October 9, 2010 12:10 PM | Report abuse
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WRONG WRONG WRONG... He would of made plays because that is what he does. He would of returned punts for TD's all by himself. I've seen him beat the return team on his own.

Posted by: tony325 | October 9, 2010 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Actually, Dano (and his puppet Bruce) should have packaged Thomas and Haynesworth(less) together to get a ham sandwich -- with cheese, meaning a 5th AND sixth rounder!!!!!

Posted by: duru44 | October 9, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse


I'll see your ignorant imaginary scenario and raise you one.

They should have packaged Devin Thomas together with Stephon Heyer in a trade for Peyton Manning!

WTH are Danny and BA thinking!?

Posted by: p1funk | October 9, 2010 12:34 PM | Report abuse

He was loser under Zorn.

Hope he hasn't quit his day job.

Posted by: alocowboy | October 9, 2010 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Devin Thomas = Nick Young

Posted by: creativefunk | October 9, 2010 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Back to our terrible pass recievers for a minute. Randy Moss was out there wanting to be traded and why didn't The Danny and his bag of cash go get him? I mean we give up draft picks for breakfast! Moss would have only cost us a THIRD ROUND pick! That's why Thomas was let go and not traded. He had no value after Shanahan made him a bench boy.


Posted by: ekbinion68 | October 9, 2010 12:25 PM |

Oh, you mean like we did in the past for Neon Deion, Brude Smith, etc. etc.? Where have you been for the last 10+ years. I guess you like the way our past strategies played out.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 9, 2010 12:35 PM | Report abuse

It is not that everyone on this blog thinks D. Thomas is going to be great, but they know what their eyes see on sundays, and thats no other reciever besides Moss has performed, and most would have liked to of seen Thomas get a shot over the rest of the sub par receivers on this team, espessially the bum Galloway.

Posted by: Michael_ASU | October 9, 2010 12:35 PM | Report abuse

I trust that this is a good decision. I think shanahan knows what he wants out of his receivers and he will find the right receivers no matter what it takes. Lets not forget he made it with Rod Smith and Ed McCaffery for years and always seem to have a top notch offense. I'm hoping the same thing will happen here.

Posted by: wattsicon | October 9, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

WRONG WRONG WRONG... He would of made plays because that is what he does. He would of returned punts for TD's all by himself. I've seen him beat the return team on his own.

Posted by: tony325 | October 9, 2010 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Like all of those great plays he made against us Sunday right? I've noticed a drop off in his game without MCNabb chucking it deep too him. He was listless without vick Sunday. Yes he's a playmaker, but nobody was making plays on offense in the Zorn era, not with Zron calling the plays, Campbell as the qb and our o line protection. But that's jsut not fair. we'll never be able to see that happen. Soooooooooooooo

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | October 9, 2010 12:38 PM | Report abuse

What's wrong with our scheme that these guys aren't getting the opportunities they should get? It's one thing if you're thrown the ball and don't catch it, it's another if you're not even given the chance. And why on a aged team like the Redskins, do we keep an ancient Joey Galloway and get rid of a young Thomas who is at least returning kicks? And Joey Galloway is contributing exactly what? I have not been sold on Shanny and he's making me less sold every week. Our defense is terrible and our running game is on life support. OL is still a question. Tackling, oh brother! Kicking, special teams, you name it. Might as well have kept Zorn and saved the money. Been a Redskins fan for life and the last few years have shorten it. I used to be excited about football Sunday, now I'm just chagrined about another Skins drama fest.

Posted by: jfoster13 | October 9, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

WRONG WRONG WRONG... He would of made plays because that is what he does. He would of returned punts for TD's all by himself. I've seen him beat the return team on his own.

Posted by: tony325 | October 9, 2010 12:33 PM | Report abuse

BTW Zorn trusted ARE and Cartwright with the return duties while DT was here. But i suppose that was great coaching and foresight too.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | October 9, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

I trust that this is a good decision. I think shanahan knows what he wants out of his receivers and he will find the right receivers no matter what it takes. Lets not forget he made it with Rod Smith and Ed McCaffery for years and always seem to have a top notch offense. I'm hoping the same thing will happen here.

Posted by: wattsicon | October 9, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Lets not get it twisted, he did it for 2years with Elway and Terrell Davis. Btw where are those guys now. We can't refer back to a game that DT played well because it's "what have you done for me lately" and at the same time folks pull Mccaffery and Smith out their arses, puhleaz.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | October 9, 2010 12:44 PM | Report abuse

So while you're toeing the party line what are we gonna do for wide receivers?Because cutting a guy who doesn't play hardly solves the problem we have getting production out of the guys who do play. Santana was shut down last week Donovan throws under 200 yds, but the previously non existent running game shows up and gives you 125 and we escape on the last play of the game against a middle of the road team without it's best player. Good luck against GB and the Colts. I luv my Skins and one player would never make me jump ship, but this one doesn't pass the smell test, especially when you consider that DT11 was our best kick returner in the past, i dunno, 10 yrs . I hope Banks can bring it on returns and stay healthy, cuz if not we lost a lil bit in the field position game.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | October 9, 2010 12:28 PM |

So Devin Thomas would've made the difference? Get the phuk outta here! Dude couldn't beat ROYDELL PHUKING WILLIAMS in PRACTICE to get on the field but he was the answer? At least I'm toeing a real football party line whiule you're still slurping a third year reject from the failed Vinny years. Dude was a one year wonder in college and proved NOTHING while he was here. But by all means let him take up a roster space. If you can't consistently run a route, you shouldn't play. If your QB throws the ball to where he expects you to bve and you're not guess what? I'm sure you can figure it out. For God sakes man there was a picture on twitter of him sleeping during meetings. Get him the phuk outta here. There are people really trying and this phukkin' guy is sleeping.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 9, 2010 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan has made some strange moves, to say the least. The melodrama with Haynesworth, the running back by commitee that has become a debacle, not pickng up any wide receivers, sticking to a 3-4 even when it became obvious that we don't have the personnel for it, jerking Portis around when he was runnign well, now this. Thomas has talent, and the best of luck to him. Some team that needs wide receivers (!) will snatch him up.

These kinds of oddball personnel moves marked Shanahan's tenure post-Elway. He really believes that it is his system and not the people on the field that wins games -- you can take anyone of the street, plug him into his "system" and then cut them loose if it is not working out. No effort at all is made to adapt the system to the personnel, and talent is not all that relevant to him. He leaves a lot of ability on the bench or cut. Methinks Shanahan is more interested in butt-kissers than passionate players. Hopefully,he will someday find butt-kissers with matching talent.

Posted by: haunches | October 9, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan has made some strange moves, to say the least. The melodrama with Haynesworth, the running back by commitee that has become a debacle, not pickng up any wide receivers, sticking to a 3-4 even when it became obvious that we don't have the personnel for it, jerking Portis around when he was runnign well, now this. Thomas has talent, and the best of luck to him. Some team that needs wide receivers (!) will snatch him up.

These kinds of oddball personnel moves marked Shanahan's tenure post-Elway. He really believes that it is his system and not the people on the field that wins games -- you can take anyone of the street, plug him into his "system" and then cut them loose if it is not working out. No effort at all is made to adapt the system to the personnel, and talent is not all that relevant to him. He leaves a lot of ability on the bench or cut. Methinks Shanahan is more interested in butt-kissers than passionate players. Hopefully,he will someday find butt-kissers with matching talent.

Posted by: haunches | October 9, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse


Thomas, Kelly, Rinehart, Tryon, Horton, the punter, maybe even Fred Davis. Going, going, or gone.

They should put a plaque with a picture of Vinny in the end zone, and list this, his biggest class of draftees.

Next to the one listing his FA acquisitions.

Posted by: TheCork | October 9, 2010 12:48 PM | Report abuse

The reason DT never got a shot is because he would have showed up the stellars receivers that we currently have (Galloway and Williams). All of us would have questioned Shanny's coaching ability and would have poured our Kool-Aid on the ground. It is the same reason why Shanny held out putting AH in the game at DT when we did play the 4-3 in games. AH would have shown us all that he was not out of shape and again we would have questioned Shanny's coaching ability. We will never know what Shanny is thinking - he does not explain his actions. We exchanged an idiot (Zorn) for a dictator (Shanny).

Posted by: SPUD2 | October 9, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 9, 2010 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Nice rant but is it rooted in fact? Are you at practice? Have you talked to players? cussin at me on the internet doesn't get my blood flowing clown. As I said before,this move does NOTHING to get more production out of our WR corps. There is no addition by subtraction when you're talking about DT he wasn't a distraction. In fact he told Lavar in the interview that teamates wanted him on the field. We still have a strugglig wr corps, only now with one less option. I hope it works out for us cuz i gamble with my Skins ery weekend.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | October 9, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 9, 2010 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Nice rant but is it rooted in fact? Are you at practice? Have you talked to players? cussin at me on the internet doesn't get my blood flowing clown. As I said before,this move does NOTHING to get more production out of our WR corps. There is no addition by subtraction when you're talking about DT he wasn't a distraction. In fact he told Lavar in the interview that teamates wanted him on the field. We still have a strugglig wr corps, only now with one less option. I hope it works out for us cuz i gamble with my Skins ery weekend.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | October 9, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

I hear Gary Clark, Jerry Smith, and Charlie Taylor are still available.

Posted by: bostskin | October 9, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Can't believe people are this upset about releasing this guy. He had 1 good game last year. He is a bust.

Posted by: ToddStinkston | October 9, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

From ESPN:

The NFL says it is reviewing allegations involving Minnesota Vikings quarterback Brett Favre, who the website Deadspin says sent racy messages and photos to a woman who worked for the team while he played for the Jets. Later Friday, Deadspin reported that Favre also pursued two female massage therapists who worked part-time for the team, according to one of the women.

I realize this doesn't rate up there with the DT shabingus as a news item, but Crissakes what's the deal with this Favre shti? There is no evidence the women complained and if the NFL made hitting on babes a punishable personal conduct offense, 75% of the players would be in jail.

Posted by: BlackBagOps | October 9, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse

I'd love to see DT's wonderlic score -
the scuttle-butt I've heard is that he's
about as sharp as a beachball, with absolutely no chance of grasping a niffle playbook... ever...

Posted by: tindal0s | October 9, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Can't believe people are this upset about releasing this guy. He had 1 good game last year. He is a bust.

Posted by: ToddStinkston | October 9, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

any more so than Roydell Williams,Joey Galloway,Terrance Austin,Anthony Armstrong or Brandon Banks. Methinks all 5 of those guys have less than 10 catches combined and maybe 1 6er.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | October 9, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse

If Peyton's worth is analogous to a 5th & 6th rounder, you have a point ---- pointless.

It may help to read and think before typing. Oh, sorry, forgot whom I'm responding to. 'Waste of time.

Do your parents know you are on their computer, lil' one?

Posted by: duru44 | October 9, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

"Offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan said recently that Thomas needed to take a more professional approach to practice to earn playing time on offense." Nuff said.

Posted by: arbano1 | October 9, 2010 1:02 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins have released Devin Thomas, the third-year receiver who came to Washington with lofty expectations and leaves without having had a single reception in 2010. Running back Keiland Williams will take Thomas's place on the 53-man roster and is expected to play on Sunday, according to a league source.

I ain't no GM but wouldn't it make more sense to release the dude at the beginning of the week so his roster replacement has more of a chance to learn the ropes before the next game. I guess if the replacement is from the practice squad it don't really make no difference do it?

Posted by: BlackBagOps | October 9, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

"Offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan said recently that Thomas needed to take a more professional approach to practice to earn playing time on offense." Nuff said.

Posted by: arbano1 | October 9, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

I'd love to see DT's wonderlic score -
the scuttle-butt I've heard is that he's
about as sharp as a beachball, with absolutely no chance of grasping a niffle playbook... ever...

Posted by: tindal0s | October 9, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

i guess that could be it. he did pick up MSU's playbook in one season after Jr. College tho so i dunno.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | October 9, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Nice rant but is it rooted in fact? Are you at practice? Have you talked to players? cussin at me on the internet doesn't get my blood flowing clown. As I said before,this move does NOTHING to get more production out of our WR corps. There is no addition by subtraction when you're talking about DT he wasn't a distraction. In fact he told Lavar in the interview that teamates wanted him on the field. We still have a strugglig wr corps, only now with one less option. I hope it works out for us cuz i gamble with my Skins ery weekend.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | October 9, 2010 12:50 PM |

It's rooted in a lot more fact than your delusions. It's rooted in the fact that the people in charge of this football team think he sucks. They ARE at practice EVERYDAY trying to get this kid to be a player. Keenan McCardell, who I would wager has a lot more experience than you or I put together thinks ROYDELL PHUKING WILLIAMS is better. We have pictures of him sleeping in meetings. Where's your facts that he deserves to be out there? You have none. All you have is some misguided notion that he must be better because he was a second rounder. I'm pretty sure you're the clown here.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 9, 2010 1:04 PM | Report abuse

A picture (or a teammate's cell phone photo) paints a thousand words...

http://slumz.boxden.com/f16/imagine-if-your-teams-wr-sleeping-during-team-meeting-1412476/

Posted by: p1funk | October 9, 2010 12:23 PM
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that picture tells you exactly why dt11 never "got it".

goes to tell you that talent isn't everything!!

Posted by: jimmy_the_crickett | October 9, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Everyone's a genius after the fact. For every Favre, Brandon Lloyd or Wes Welker who become studs after changing teams, there are 50 stocking shelves at Costco or selling used cars....

Posted by: randysbailin | October 9, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

It's rooted in a lot more fact than your delusions. It's rooted in the fact that the people in charge of this football team think he sucks.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 9, 2010 1:04 PM

And, it's not just the people that run the Redskins. 31 other GMs were unwilling to give the Redskins a ham sandwich for DT. Probably two or three teams will make waiver claims for him, but really if no one will give a 7th round pick for him then there's unanimous agreement in the NFL that he's a bum.

Posted by: beep-beep | October 9, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Shanny has won 2 SB's yet there are people here offering their sage advice as to who to play. I guess that's what sports are all about. Know nothings are free to offer up their opions in such a way as to indicate that seasoned pros like Shanny know little about running a football team. One here says Thomas didn't get a chance. Patently ridiculous. The coaching staff has many practices by which to judge a player but the volunteer experts will still 2nd guess them. That's OK , as long as the FO does what they are going to paying no mind to the armchair GM's. I fully expect one of these folks to suggest the Redkins acquire Andre Johnson, never mind whether he is available or not.

Posted by: TJDemo | October 9, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

I'm pretty sure you're the clown here.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 9, 2010 1:04 PM |

Dude - you ought to know considering how many times you've been the clown yourself. Although I do tend to agree with your position on this one, if not the tact with which you expressed it.

Posted by: BlackBagOps | October 9, 2010 1:10 PM | Report abuse

I can see cutting Thomas, assuming talented WRs beat him out. But most of the current WR collection would not even make most teams. So I don't understand why DT was not given more of a chance, except to advertise how awful the previous regime was. We already knew that.

Posted by: EdDC | October 9, 2010 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Long overdue move. He stinks.Lousy dreaft that set the team back. 3 receivers,not one worthy of the position they were chosen. They should have taken 3 OL. Snyderatto... the gift that keeps on giving. Or maybe not.

Posted by: ridgely1 | October 9, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

It's rooted in a lot more fact than your delusions. It's rooted in the fact that the people in charge of this football team think he sucks. They ARE at practice EVERYDAY trying to get this kid to be a player. Keenan McCardell, who I would wager has a lot more experience than you or I put together thinks ROYDELL PHUKING WILLIAMS is better. We have pictures of him sleeping in meetings. Where's your facts that he deserves to be out there? You have none. All you have is some misguided notion that he must be better because he was a second rounder. I'm pretty sure you're the clown here.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 9, 2010 1:04 PM | Report abuse

I didn't say his draft position had anything to do with him being good or bad; quite conversely actually, it's you and a few others that think he's bad because of his draft position. I think he's good because I've seen him play well in NFL games. You can act like he didn't put up 100+ yds and 2 tds vs the champs last year, but it happened. Even if it only happened once it happened. A good coach would try to find ways to replicate those occurences. I'm not saying i know more than McCardell or Shanny about anything. i think they very well could know that Thomas has the talent and the tools, they just don't wanna deal with him for other reasons.
You can't tell me DT11 can't catch a hitch. he caught plenty of them under Zorn. now, why shanny would rather throw back to back hitches in the redzone to a 5'6" 155 lb guy who was cut a week before, that's on him.
Same thing with the back to back fades to Armstrong. If you say DT isn't proven then so be it. I can't combat it, but what have Banks, Armstrong or Williams done in the NFL to warrant their snaps.
ps. I really like how you use the PH so that you can say "Grown Up" word without getting in trouble, don't worry i won't tell, sweetheart.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | October 9, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

I'm pretty sure you're the clown here.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 9, 2010 1:04 PM |

Dude - you ought to know considering how many times you've been the clown yourself. Although I do tend to agree with your position on this one, if not the tact with which you expressed it.

Posted by: BlackBagOps | October 9, 2010 1:10 PM |

What you think about anything is absolutely irrelevant. You have shown yourself to be nothing but a troll and therefore matter not.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 9, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

There is no way to tell whether is asleep or not in that photo. So what was the purpose of posting it?
I am going to the hospital for a brain transplant soon. They are going to give me one from a sports writer to make sure it has never been used before.

Posted by: TJDemo | October 9, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

I don't disagree with this. I wish we had scored a draft pick for him, but whatever. This is clearly a departure from the Redskins of the past. Practice + Professionalism = Playing Time and that attitude wins games and championships. He had talent, but if you're not putting in the work, you'll never succeed at this level. I do wish him all the best.

Posted by: SpareHuman | October 9, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

TJDemo --John Elway led Denver to 2 SBs whie Shanahan was the coach. His record, including Elway, is 148-100. Very impressive. His record without Elway is 101-83. Not bad, but hardly Lombardi territory either. Comes to an average of 9 wins a year. Shanahan is good, just not nearly as good as he believes himself to be. His personnel moves have been strange, and they usually turn on which players are in or out of his favor at the moment.

Skins still lead the league in melodrama.

Posted by: haunches | October 9, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

TJDemo --John Elway led Denver to 2 SBs whie Shanahan was the coach. His record, including Elway, is 148-100. Very impressive. His record without Elway is 101-83. Not bad, but hardly Lombardi territory either. Comes to an average of 9 wins a year. Shanahan is good, just not nearly as good as he believes himself to be. His personnel moves have been strange, and they usually turn on which players are in or out of his favor at the moment.

Skins still lead the league in melodrama.

Posted by: haunches | October 9, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Shanny has won 2 SB's yet there are people here offering their sage advice as to who to play. I guess that's what sports are all about. Know nothings are free to offer up their opions in such a way as to indicate that seasoned pros like Shanny know little about running a football team. One here says Thomas didn't get a chance. Patently ridiculous. The coaching staff has many practices by which to judge a player but the volunteer experts will still 2nd guess them. That's OK , as long as the FO does what they are going to paying no mind to the armchair GM's. I fully expect one of these folks to suggest the Redkins acquire Andre Johnson, never mind whether he is available or not.

Posted by: TJDemo | October 9, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Ditto.

I'm as guilty as anyone about expressing my opinion from the sofa. We forget that coaches and GMs make their living doing this (some much better than others). They've devoted their lives to their professions and spend every waking hour evaluating players close up and on film. We sit at our keyboards, drooling Ben and Jerry's, thinking that we could be a general manager tomorrow. Too funny.

Posted by: randysbailin | October 9, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

I can see cutting Thomas, assuming talented WRs beat him out. But most of the current WR collection would not even make most teams. So I don't understand why DT was not given more of a chance, except to advertise how awful the previous regime was. We already knew that.

Posted by: EdDC | October 9, 2010 1:10 PM

How can you not see the other side of that coin? Look how bad our WR are; DT could not beat them out. It was not about giving him a chance. He had his chance. Training camp and preseason and practice. DT could not get it done. Period.

People crying about subpar players getting cut is UFB!

Posted by: Curzon417 | October 9, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

And, it's not just the people that run the Redskins. 31 other GMs were unwilling to give the Redskins a ham sandwich for DT. Probably two or three teams will make waiver claims for him, but really if no one will give a 7th round pick for him then there's unanimous agreement in the NFL that he's a bum.

Posted by: beep-beep | October 9, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse
why would i give you anything for something you don't want. At least in NFL terms it makes no sense. Why even waste a 7th (our current 7th is on our practice squaud i believe) when you know eventually the coach is gonna get so tired of looking at the guy he'll cut him. There were allegedly trade talks in the preseason. After we didn't pull the trigger I'm sure other Gms were more than willing to wait us out. It'll all play out on the field tho. no worries.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | October 9, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Getting dumped from the worst WR squad in the league does not make for a promising start to a career. I am just glad we don't have to see any more of those asinine career path comparisons to Vjax and Rice.

Posted by: srobert1117 | October 9, 2010 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Man, it's like Shanahan took a big fistful of sand and threw directly into beaner's vagina.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | October 9, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

The Skins had to cut a WR to sign a RB (K Williams) this week. I think they couldn't trust DT to run a proper route and in this offense -- the QB often throws the ball before the WR makes a break -- increasing the risk of an INT with DT on the field. Still I'm surprised they cut DT over R. Williams.

Banks has earned his spot as #5 WR and should be more productive as a KR -- even though DT is #8 in the league, with a 28yd KR avg -- let just hope he got the fumbling out of the way in pre-season.

Posted by: siris | October 9, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

How can you not see the other side of that coin? Look how bad our WR are; DT could not beat them out. It was not about giving him a chance. He had his chance. Training camp and preseason and practice. DT could not get it done. Period.

People crying about subpar players getting cut is UFB!

Posted by: Curzon417 | October 9, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

the other side of that coin is the same as the first. He doesn't have to be that bad to be behind those guys. Is Kemoatu or whatever better at anything other than getting pushed back than haynesworth? what about that other random DT they were playing over Albert? Get real Shanny's pulling the strings the way he wants to. He plays who he wants to.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | October 9, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse


HA ! where's bean ? anyone seen bean ?

Posted by: hessone | October 9, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

why would i give you anything for something you don't want.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | October 9, 2010 1:21 PM

Gee, that's a stumper. Why would anyone give something for Randy Moss? Anquan Boldin? Wes Welker?

Every trade is for a player that his team doesn't want. The amount you pay for something has nothing to do with how the other guy values it -- it's about the value to you. Why buy a BMW? BMW doesn't want the cars or they wouldn't be selling them. They must be worthless.

Posted by: beep-beep | October 9, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Devin will just be another player that makes it big in another city.

Posted by: slamdunkfan1 | October 9, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse

touchy-feely human interest

beep beep

Posted by: beep-beep | October 9, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Very sorry to see this happen without him even getting a chance. I believe he has the skills and I hope some other team has seen the potential and gives him a chance. I've been a DT fan and hope he gets the chance to prove Shanny and Co. wrong.

Posted by: TRACIETHEDOLPHIN | October 9, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Gee, that's a stumper. Why would anyone give something for Randy Moss? Anquan Boldin? Wes Welker?

Every trade is for a player that his team doesn't want. The amount you pay for something has nothing to do with how the other guy values it -- it's about the value to you. Why buy a BMW? BMW doesn't want the cars or they wouldn't be selling them. They must be worthless.

Posted by: beep-beep | October 9, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

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That simply isn't true. If a team can get better compensation for a player, even if they have value to their team, why not take it?

Posted by: sorry2say | October 9, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Can we get a poll up? Will DT succeed elsewhere? Set the bar for success at 1000 yds, 8 TDs total including returns, decent return average?

Posted by: SMACK1 | October 9, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

How could he do any worse than the other junk recievers on this team not named Moss? At least he should have been given a chance, but Shanahan's ego didn't want to be shown up if Devin performed. Are we averaging 30 points a game with the recievers having a big year? Not!!! Good luck DT. You deserved better treatment and sometimes the closing of one door, prepares you for the opening of another.

Posted by: garrybrown | October 9, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse

I'm not saying i know more than McCardell or Shanny about anything. i think they very well could know that Thomas has the talent and the tools, they just don't wanna deal with him for other reasons.
You can't tell me DT11 can't catch a hitch. he caught plenty of them under Zorn. now, why shanny would rather throw back to back hitches in the redzone to a 5'6" 155 lb guy who was cut a week before, that's on him.
Same thing with the back to back fades to Armstrong. If you say DT isn't proven then so be it. I can't combat it, but what have Banks, Armstrong or Williams done in the NFL to warrant their snaps.
ps. I really like how you use the PH so that you can say "Grown Up" word without getting in trouble, don't worry i won't tell, sweetheart.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | October 9, 2010 1:14 PM |

You obviously think you know more. If McCardell thought he was worth a sh!t he would be on the field. Also, one game does not a talent make. He had one game against a hurt up team cruising towards the playoffs. Sorry dude. I'm gonna take Shanny over you every single time. As far as Banks, Armsrtong, etc, well again, I will defer to an actual Superbowl winning football coach over some guy calling himself little hollywood anyday.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 9, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

re:

Everyone's a genius after the fact. For every Favre, Brandon Lloyd or Wes Welker who become studs after changing teams, there are 50 stocking shelves at Costco or selling used cars....

Posted by: randysbailin | October 9, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

I am scratching my head a bit on this one...I don't know what the Redskins plans are - but all signs point to playing the scrubs. So that's it...Play the scrubs? Play Anthony Armstrong, Terrance whomever and work in plays for Brandon Banks? Roydell Williams? Or is that Rydell...Really who has even heard of a Roydell before...

And what about Malcom in the middle Kelly - that guy is officially a bust - he's at least gets a Redskins' paycheck during his stocking shelves training at Costco...

So what is a fan to do? OK Shanahan...you got us...we're on board...In Shanahan we trust...I GUESS?

Posted by: grandstrand | October 9, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Listen to me all DT supporters, the guy lacks consistency and drops to many passes. Did anyone else see when he was in the preseason, he dropped half of the passes going his way with a majority of them easy screen or five yard slant passes that any receiver should catch. I dont care how much talent you have IF YOU CAN'T CATCH THE BALL, YOU CAN'T PLAY FOOTBALL AS A WIDE RECEIVER!! Its that simple. Any fan who has watched football for 3 years knew why he didn't see the field, he can't consistently catch the ball and any difficult catches...where completely out of the question.

Fred Davis is good and will develop into another deep threat for the skins, as well as armstrong. Galloway is holding down the fort until we draft a receiver next year (it should be a really good class of receivers next year...unlike the year thomas was drafted). And yeah I said draft....but knowing the skins might very well b a fa. I'd prefer a big receiver in the 3rd of 4th round like shipley or williams, but thats just me.

Its hard for true fans to knock shanahan for his personal decisions when the skins starters are slowly getting younger and where developing there young talent and doing so while winning (trent, kory, ryan, banks, williams, carriker, golston, alexander, moore, landry) and for a youth movement trying to develop and devin can't see the field proves one thing. Devin cant cut it..if he could he would b out there...playing time for everyone is EARNED on this team not GIVEN...so if he EARNED it he would be out there.

And if devin thomas became the next bradon lloyd he would still be a BUST. Brandon Lloyd just started to be more consistent at 30...and had been passed off by 3 other different teams...all because of his lack of consistency. He is playing well now because if he doesn't his career in football would be over...devin will prob be in that situation some where down the road and i hope when he is he excels and finally gets it just like lloyd did. I wish him well, but in the end if we get our o-line fixed (where good not great, next year will prob draft a center and guard or sign a young one and get some more depth at the tackle positions) and get our next receiver (it could still be kelly if he stays healthy but one more injury is his career) we will be fine and won't even remember devin thomas and his inconsistency.

Posted by: culprit59 | October 9, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Given that the Redskins lack speed, I would have liked to see the Redskins make more of an effort to get Thomas developed and productive. Thomas was a young prospect with fantastic speed that I saw as having more upside vs. a way past his prime Galloway. More front office drama and churn and burn on the Redskins roster. Net result will be more mediocrity of the 7-9 variety.

There will be no playoffs for Redskin fans this year. I also think McNabb will leave after just this one season. Why should he stick around if he isn't under contract and he can pursue title contending teams for the 2011/2012 season?

Posted by: youcanthandlethetruth1 | October 9, 2010 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Do you think the interview he did with LaVar had anything to do with speeding up his departure? I know he was on the trading block, but an outright release for the #8 kick returner in the NFL seems a little odd with Green Bay in town and we play tomorrow.

Posted by: Beltwayboy7 | October 9, 2010 2:17 PM | Report abuse

HA ! where's bean ? anyone seen bean ?

Posted by: hessone | October 9, 2010 1:29 PM

I'm here..... A couple of folks are defending a coaching staff that released Torain(our starting running back), benched Haynesworth (our best D lineman), started Carter at LB (he is a d lineman), signed Larry Johnson (think about this for a minute), released Brandon Banks, failed to sign James (colts got him), started Reed over Horton (see Texans), had Reed in single coverage on 4th and 10 on Andre Johnson in the end zone(see Texans), refuse to start Haynesworth as a DE next to Orakpo (can you say havoc on the QB's blindside). They aren't perfect, DT11 isn't perfect, but way better than the old vets, I am not perfect...and many who defend this erratic coaching staff that releases folks on Saturday hoping that they clear waivers, are not perfect. DT will get picked up by another team for free, or he'll be back next week.....

Posted by: adjustments_Redskins | October 9, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: adjustments_Redskins | October 9, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

I was just thinking that. But unless there were internal discussions about bringing him back, DT11's tone seems like he's out and would only come back to play for this coaching staff as a last resort.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | October 9, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

I was just thinking that. But unless there were internal discussions about bringing him back, DT11's tone seems like he's out and would only come back to play for this coaching staff as a last resort.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | October 9, 2010 2:28 PM

Couldn't really blame him if he felt that way. Although, at the end of the day a paycheck is a paycheck.

Posted by: adjustments_Redskins | October 9, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

No you don't Thomas. You do not belong in the National Football League. You belong in the League of Women Voters.

Posted by: hz9604 | October 9, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

No you don't Thomas. You do not belong in the National Football League. You belong in the League of Women Voters.

Posted by: hz9604 | October 9, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

That was really funny...........you happy now.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | October 9, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Sleepy Davis catches two TDs this weekend, "gets the message" and we are a better team.

Posted by: spam21 | October 9, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Sleepy Davis catches two TDs this weekend, "gets the message" and we are a better team.

Posted by: spam21 | October 9, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse

I though "the message" was starting a gang of nobodys at wideout. i thought that was the motivational tool for our youngins.

Sleepy Davis will be returning kicks for 4 weeks and then unceremoniously cut. 1 guy catching two TDs in this offense with no solidified running game is a pipedream.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | October 9, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Sleepy Davis catches two TDs this weekend, "gets the message" and we are a better team.

Posted by: spam21 | October 9, 2010 2:36 PM


'Dream On...'

Posted by: tindal0s | October 9, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

I'm at a loss for words. You mean to tell me that DT can't beat out Roydell Williams, who is HORRIBLE. They just dumped a young talent at the WR spot, which is pretty bad as it is. Why didn't they give him a chance? It's BS. Guess the dictator who can't draft know's what he is doing. I'm already tired of Shanahan.

Posted by: matthewrayman | October 9, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Danny and Vinny, again, I thank you for destroying my football team. Could have had DeSean Jackson here. Could have taken an offensive lineman. Yeah, the Skins' 2008 draft is looking better and better with each passing day!

Posted by: stwasm | October 9, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

"Sleepy" Davis might not even play this weekend. DT's departure didn't open up a slot at WR, he wasn't playing already. Unless they shake up the offense, Sleepy Davis will only see the ball in warmups.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | October 9, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Danny and Vinny, again, I thank you for destroying my football team. Could have had DeSean Jackson here. Could have taken an offensive lineman. Yeah, the Skins' 2008 draft is looking better and better with each passing day!

Posted by: stwasm | October 9, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Under the Zorn,Campbell,Swiss Cheese O line era Desean Jackson woulda been Devin Thomas. And all yall talkin bout what he could do on teams check how many return TDs we've had under coordinator Danny Smith.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | October 9, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

one thing is for sure, shanny sure knows how to stir things up week to week....no one gets comfortable

Posted by: mdoughtie22 | October 9, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

don't let the door hit you on the way out.. no maybe lavar can shut his yap! lavar seriously called out shanahan trying to say that the super bowls he won in denver aren't legit. what an idiot! how many winning nfl teams was lavar on?! none.

if riggo or darrell green want to bash the skins than so be it - they earned their stripes and won championships. lavar's a chump!

Posted by: zekemowatt56 | October 9, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

"I have the talent. I have the abilities. I know the scheme. You know, I have the mentality. I have everything, you know, all the intangibles to do it, but for some reason I can't get the chance on the field. The coaches do not believe in me to make the plays."

-Devin Thomas

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Devin Thomas has a high opinion of himself, and while self esteem is laudable, in the absence of hard work, all that "talent" just sits at the bottom of the bowl.

The cream, it rises to the top Devin.

Clearly you didn't whip it hard enough.


Posted by: Chia_Pet | October 9, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse

He had a slow start in his first year and started producing in his 2nd. He's just a slow starter. I think in 3 years, he'll be a pro bowler. Shanahan didn't even give him a chance to be on the field. He's known to be not particularly good about personnel. Why did he get rid of Hunter Smith and Ethan Albright, a pro bowl snapper replacing them with Josh Bidwell and the rookie snapper. good for Devin. He'll show them!

Posted by: jgluke | October 9, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse

I don't get it: Gibbs went after and signed 3 pint sized WR's, and he gets zero blame on it as it set the team back 10 years - despite 2 playoffs no one outside of the Beltway remembers. Remember Lloyd, Randall-El and Moss coming together? That led to what? Who goes after THREE WR's at once? And wins?

But Vinny DRAFTED 3 WR's, and he's a bonehead. Gibbs got 3 WR's that were from somewhere else and overpriced; Vinny drafted 3 unproven ones. What's the difference?

Just because Moss can play doesn't offset the fact that THREE WR's (that stood like 4'8 and 100 pounds) was a good idea. Have the Colts, Patriots, Steelers, Ravens, Saints gone after three WR's at once?

Posted by: morrisday1 | October 9, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Shanny=Lifetime TV, drama all day long!!

Posted by: SPUD2 | October 9, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

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