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Dockery's in Detroit (So Tempted to Call This Dr. Detroit)

Derrick Dockery, the former Redskins and Bills offensive guard, is visiting the Lions today from what I've heard from sources. Still, a trip here, or a deal with the Redskins, is not out of the question by any means. This one has to play out a little.

By Jason La Canfora  |  February 27, 2009; 12:17 PM ET
 
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Detroit's the Bermuda Triangle of the NFL. Stay out at all costs.

Posted by: psps23 | February 27, 2009 12:21 PM | Report abuse

first

Posted by: Zeebs | February 27, 2009 12:21 PM | Report abuse

first?

Posted by: Freddr055 | February 27, 2009 12:21 PM | Report abuse

No one outbids Daniel M Snyder!!!

Posted by: VaBeachBlitz | February 27, 2009 12:21 PM | Report abuse

But i do see the point of oline too. that is where my gut says we will go knowing they will think they can eek something out of the older o line.

heres to trading down to have two picks in the top 45 players and getting both LB and OL addressed!

Posted by: Zeebs | February 27, 2009 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Zeebs | February 27, 2009 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Was Dock released simply as a salary dump or is his play also declining?

Posted by: IHateJLC | February 27, 2009 12:23 PM | Report abuse

I say Haynesworth is here for 4 years and takes in $50-55Mil at the most.

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 27, 2009 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Was Dock released simply as a salary dump or is his play also declining?

Posted by: IHateJLC | February 27, 2009 12:23 PM |

From what I heard they have a new offensive staff and he does not fit into what they do.

I would say he was dumped for salary.

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 27, 2009 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Housing is cheap in Detroit. He could buy a block.

Posted by: shyde13 | February 27, 2009 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Restructure Taylor, sign Jason Brown, and let's wrap this puppy up.

Posted by: TWISI | February 27, 2009 12:26 PM | Report abuse

4th,

Agreed he doesn't see all of that 100mil 50-55 sounds about right.

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 27, 2009 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Ray Brown told BMitch that the new OC said he didn't fit the new type of offense they are going to run. Ray Brown is on the Bills staff......

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 27, 2009 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Dock was also dumped because he was never worth that much $$$ he got fron Buffalo in the 1st place.

Posted by: VaBeachBlitz | February 27, 2009 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Was Dock released simply as a salary dump or is his play also declining?

Posted by: IHateJLC

No, the skins couldn't match the humungous contract the Bills were offering.

Remember that was the year that Eric Steinbach and Leonard Davis both got incredible free angent deals.

These were deals never seen for offensive guards before. Dock's play was never an issue.

Posted by: Predator48 | February 27, 2009 12:28 PM | Report abuse

PLEASE SIGN DOCKERY, DANNY!!!

It's all I want for Christmas.


If we could pick up Jason Brown, Brandon Moore, and/or Ray Willis, I'd just simply pee all over myself.

Posted by: TDawg1 | February 27, 2009 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Interesting point from Jeffrey Chadiha at ESPN:

"If you think that's a reach, just consider that Tennessee was 22-7 the past two seasons (including postseason games) when Haynesworth was on the field and 1-4 when he wasn't."

Posted by: psps23 | February 27, 2009 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Psps23,

Part of rebuilding is parting with big contracts and replacing the older, high priced players with younger, cheaper talent. The Skins don't do that: they sign expensive free agents, play them until they've got nothing left, and then reload with more expensive free agents. There's nothing you can say that will make me believe they're doing themselves a service by overpaying for Haynesworth (at least not in the long term).

It takes a top to bottom effort to win it all and stay relevant in the title chase with any regularity. The Steelers have a great FO and ownership structure that makes the right call on coaches and players. They use free agency infrequently and when they do it's 2nd tier guys that nobody thinks about (remember Ryan Clark? Mewelde Moore?). In fact, I trust the Steelers organization to make the right move more often than not, and I would have questioned them if they made this move! Do you trust Dan Snyder? The Skins FO? Do you trust Jim Zorn? Trust and respect are earned; these guys have made mistep after mistep and this move looks no different than any of the others from the surface.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 27, 2009 12:30 PM | Report abuse

My bad you were talking about Dock's release from the Bills.

Posted by: Predator48 | February 27, 2009 12:31 PM | Report abuse

It's a good move going to talk with Detroit. Make Danny sweat a little and he'll raise his offer.

Posted by: spidey103 | February 27, 2009 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Interesting point from Jeffrey Chadiha at ESPN:

"If you think that's a reach, just consider that Tennessee was 22-7 the past two seasons (including postseason games) when Haynesworth was on the field and 1-4 when he wasn't."

Posted by: psps23 | February 27, 2009 12:29 PM

You can't attribute individuals with team wins/losses. Worst stat in football...

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 27, 2009 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Have we traded for Tomlinson yet?

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | February 27, 2009 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Anyone hear the Winslow to Bucs trade rumor?

Posted by: chrislarry | February 27, 2009 12:37 PM | Report abuse

CL,
ESPN confirms it to be true for undisclosed draft picks (but are guessing a 2nd and 3rd)

Posted by: TDawg1 | February 27, 2009 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Winslow traded to Tampa Bay.

Posted by: RITCA | February 27, 2009 12:38 PM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: TDawg1 | February 27, 2009 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Now the Bucs need a QB.

Posted by: TWISI | February 27, 2009 12:40 PM | Report abuse

DOC just said AH will make it possible for Landry to stop playing in the stands during the games.

AH will improve the pass rush because on every play he will be double teamed, this should make the deep deep deep saftey not nesassary.

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 27, 2009 12:40 PM | Report abuse

The problem our team has is still on offense. If we don't get Dock then we have problems. That's why signing Haynesworth was a bad move. The reason we weren't winning games last year was our OFFENSE not our defense.

Sure we all want our defense to get more sacks and takeaways every year, but we all know that our defense kept us in every single game for the past four years, with nonflashy bend but don't break football. The reason we lost so many 13-10 and 17-13 games was the OFFENSE.

The main reason was the decline of our aging offensive line. If you don't sign Fat Albert then you easily get Dockery and the guy who can play Center or Guard from Baltimore with money to spare. Shucks we could have signed one of the Baltimore Ravens Linebackers (Bart Star or Terrel Suggs), Dock, and Jason Brown from Baltimore. With that we have an awesome linebacker (which is a huge hole on our team...alfred fincher is NOT the solution) and we get Dock and Brown could take RG (or center if Casey Rabach ever gets hurt). Three players for the price of one. We had too many holes to go this route.

Albert is a dominate player. We just shouldn't have signed him when we had so many holes everywhere else. We could have extended Carlos current deal and keep him off the market after next season as well. But now we will lose him after next season and that is a guarantee.

Posted by: Jooshman26 | February 27, 2009 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Couple of positive points I want to make/reiterate:
- Just because it is a “splash” doesn’t make it a bad move.
- No draft picks have been lost to these pickups/signings
- Canty “got away” – boo hoo. Haynesworth is way better
- Defense just got way better, and both players are in their 20’s.
- No more paying Shawn Springs’ big contract to not play
- Still have 4 draft picks, plus the rest of free agency to address Oline and LB’s.
- Salary cap numbers don’t matter to this team.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | February 27, 2009 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Dock was also dumped because he was never worth that much $$$ he got fron Buffalo in the 1st place.

Posted by: VaBeachBlitz | February 27, 2009 12:51 PM | Report abuse

vabeachblitz: "Dock was also dumped because he was never worth that much $$$ he got fron Buffalo in the 1st place."

I guess I don't find this argument persuasive. I mean, the market sets the value. All he needs is one sucker -- sorry, i meant highly qualified ownership group -- and the deal is done. Everyone can spend the next few years regretting it.

The issue isn't how much Buffalo paid him. It's how much Snyder would. |

Posted by: Samson151 | February 27, 2009 1:05 PM | Report abuse

When can the Skins cut RandleEl and not take a huge cap hit? He sucks as a punt returner and the Skins should no longer need him as a pass receiver. WOuld cutting him lose this offseason free up any cap space?

The Skins need to draft a punt returner this year too...

Posted by: oddjob1 | February 27, 2009 1:15 PM | Report abuse

They just reconstructed his contract... I don't think he'll be released any time soon. Moss is our PR.


WE'RE GONNA DRAFT ORAKPO AND OUR DEFENSE WILL BE UNSTOPPABLE NEXT YEAR!!!

HAIL TO THE REDSKINS!

Posted by: doubleOneven | February 27, 2009 1:36 PM | Report abuse

VINNY, DANNY GET DOCKERY PLEASE!!!!!

Posted by: diopsdad | February 27, 2009 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Jooshman26 nailed the offensive analysis. The Redskins prove year after year that the salary cap is merely a speedbump. Dockery would be an upgrade but I'd rather see them go after a RT free agent and draft a guard. My biggest concern though is still QB. Campbell has shown me nothing of substance. He casn't complete the mid-range pass. Our O will suffer along as long as he's throwing screens to everyone. Our D just got better and that helps but our offense is what is killing us.

Posted by: tdpillo123 | February 27, 2009 2:05 PM | Report abuse

I would prefer to see the team build through the draft but recent history suggests Cerrato and Co. are not well equipped to make those 2nd and 3rd round selections and get value that translates into starting caliber players.

So, if Vinny is going to run the show I would rather see them keep the #13 pick, select a DE or OL, and then sign a veteran to play LG and a developmental RT.

Posted by: leopard09 | February 27, 2009 3:15 PM | Report abuse

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