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Posted at 11:51 AM ET, 12/19/2010

Are Redskins trying to go 5-11?

By Washington Post editors

Check out what the NFL Network's GameDay crew thinks over on the The Early Lead.

By Washington Post editors  | December 19, 2010; 11:51 AM ET
Categories:  Donovan McNabb  
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Dallas week is meaningless when both teams suck and have nothing to play for.
Public castration? Based on the way he played, Mc#5 pulled his junk out and walked willingly to the public castration stage. So please stop with the undying loyalty for the QB who played for Eagles last year.

Posted by: mack1 | December 19, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Reskins' fans LOVE to make martyrs out of people, and Donovan McNabb is the latest.

Posted by: rickyroge | December 19, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Agree with this. Suzanne, msrent, I don't understand why McNabb is the sacred cow, some untouchable who's feelings need to be put ahead of the wellbeing of the team. He's been here for 13 games after 11 seasons with a hated rival and hasn't played well (understated). The Shannys have established that he is not the future here. Let's see if we can get a clearer picture of our other offensive talent.

Also, it seems to me that Mike is clearly evaluating Kyle's system and play-calling with this change.

"So Kyle, you don't like McNabb and he's why the offense isn't clicking? Fine. You can play Rex, now go prove it."

Posted by: RomoLongballs | December 19, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Good to see RI is still ripping stuff off of PFT...if nothing else you're consistent, Reid:

Are Redskins tanking to draft a quarterback?
Posted by Michael David Smith on December 19, 2010, 10:21 AM EST

The Washington Redskins’ decision this week to bench Donovan McNabb in favor of Rex Grossman has a lot of people asking, What is Mike Shanahan thinking?

Perhaps he’s thinking about drafting a quarterback in 2011 — and thinking that losing the final three games gives him a better chance of acquiring the quarterback he wants.

That was the subject of a discussion this morning on NFL Network, focusing on whether Shanahan is throwing the rest of the season so he can get a high draft pick next year.

“They’re really thinking about drafting a quarterback,” NFL Network reporter Michael Lombardi said. “The move to Rex Grossman, I’ve been told reliably by people in the Washington organization, has nothing to do with him being the quarterback of the future. It’s about them being in position next year to draft a quarterback.”

NFL Network analyst Marshall Faulk also suggested that the Redskins, who are currently 5-8, would rather finish 5-11 than 8-8.

“Those five wins? That’s all they want,” Faulk said. “Five wins and 11 losses, that might put you in the Top 5. . . . If they can get in the Top 5, there’s a lot of good college quarterbacks coming out this year. . . . Is that throwing games? I don’t know. But you understand that Donovan McNabb gives you the best chance to win, and you start Rex, and John Beck is second and Donovan is third? You’re sending a crazy message.”

Warren Sapp was blunt in his assessment: “Right now they’re tanking the season looking for that Top 5 pick.”

So who would Shanahan want to draft with that Top 5 pick? Stanford quarterback Andrew Luck is widely regarded as the best prospect in the 2011 NFL draft. But he’s likely to go first overall, and it’s impossible for the Redskins to get the first overall pick, so tanking games to get Luck wouldn’t be a very smart strategy.

But there are other good quarterbacks Shanahan might covet, including Ryan Mallett of Arkansas and Cam Newton of Auburn. Would Shanahan want to lose the last three games of 2010 so he can draft one of those quarterbacks in 2011?

A team intentionally losing games to get good draft picks would be a terrible thing for the integrity of the National Football League. That the league’s own network is openly discussing the possibility of a team doing just that shows what a bizarre year it’s been in Washington.

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 19, 2010 12:01 PM | Report abuse

I just did the most depressing thing a Skins fan could do this season...cut McNabb from my fantasy team to pick up Jason Campbell. FML...

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 19, 2010 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Right... Singularly the most frustrating team to be a fanatic of in the league. At least teams like the Bills know their owner is cheap, and are never promised a rose garden year after year..At least the Cubs have a nostalgic and quaint stadium to be perpetual losers in..Snyder is either Horribly inept or a Vegas-rigged trainwreck..This has been the worst "Dallas-Week" in memory, without a doubt..

Posted by: frak | December 19, 2010 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Let's not act like Mike Shanahan is the first Redskins coach to mishandle a QB situation...

1) Joe Gibbs/Doug Williams
2) Joe Gibbs/Patrick Ramsey
3) Joe Gibbs/Mark Brunell
4) Joe Gibbs/Jason Campbell
5) Jim Zorn/Jason Campbell
6) Steve Spurrier/Shane Matthews

Posted by: rickyroge | December 19, 2010 12:14 PM | Report abuse

For those who will be asking, two links to watch the game:

http://atdhe.net/

http://channelsurfing.net/

Posted by: kerzon417 | December 19, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse

I don't think McNabb is a sacred cow (dude has not been playing well). But I think that Sexy Rexy is terrible and there is nothing to "evaluate". I also have a problem with the way things went down - to quote Howie Long just now, I think it was classless. In ANY job, I think people should act professionallly - whether it's my boss or Mike Shananhan. I also believe that he's lost a lot of the locker room by making this move at this point and the way he did it. Maybe I'll be wrong, I hope I am.

More importantly, I am sick of being lied too - Shanny has a story and an excuse and a reason for the decisions he makes instead of being honest (see the myriad of reasons he gave for benching McNabb during the Detroit game).

IDK, we have many, many problems and I see that McNabb is not that number one (nor is the freaking punter).

I usually just try to hope for the best and see what happens and try not to get mad, since it's only football, but I am really angry. I think because I see Shanny making more problems than being the solution. Again, I hope I am wrong.

Posted by: suzannepdc | December 19, 2010 12:18 PM | Report abuse

In-actives:

Cowboys’ Barber, Williams out; Redskins have John Beck at No. 3

Posted by Michael David Smith on December 19, 2010, 12:09 PM EST

Donovan McNabb will be the Redskins’ No. 3 quarterback starting next week, but this week he will be No. 2.

The Redskins’ inactive list has John Beck as the third quarterback today. So while it’s been such an odd week for McNabb that there’s talk that the Redskins are tanking to draft a quarterback in 2011, McNabb is still just a Grossman injury away from being the Redskins’ quarterback.

The Redskins’ inactives are running back Andre Brown, defensive tackle Jeremy Clark, center Erik Cook, running back James Davis, guard Derrick Dockery, defensive end Kedric Golston and defensive back Macho Harris.

The Cowboys’ inactives are running back Marion Barber, receiver Roy Williams, guard Phil Costa, defensive end Clifton Geathers, tackle Jermey Parnell, quarterback Tony Romo, linebacker Leon Williams and tackle Sam Young.

Posted by: kerzon417 | December 19, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

The proper and correct move by the Wizard- trade Arenas for a scoring forward that Wall can pass to. Good luck to Arenas's big watermelon head in Orlando..Now the Wiz can rebuild around future Hall Of Famer Wall..

Posted by: frak | December 19, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

And this move leads me to believe that we're going to draft a QB in the first round instead of another lineman.

Posted by: suzannepdc | December 19, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

"... the most irrational and stubborn of them all: Redskins fans." - John Cornyn.

How true, how true.

Posted by: hock1 | December 19, 2010 12:25 PM | Report abuse

IDK, we have many, many problems and I see that McNabb is not that number one (nor is the freaking punter).

I usually just try to hope for the best and see what happens and try not to get mad, since it's only football, but I am really angry. I think because I see Shanny making more problems than being the solution. Again, I hope I am wrong.

Posted by: suzannepdc | December 19, 2010 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, agreed about the punter. CSN analyzed all the exchanges during FG/XP, and the snapper was off on each one, a couple were horrible. I guess it was the punting that got him cut.

Agreed, it could have been handled better and Shanny has been frustratingly obtuse. But I think/hope he's good for us in the long run.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | December 19, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

I wanted Kyle to be groomed as the future coach of this team. But its looking less and less likely.

Posted by: alex35332 | December 19, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

In-actives beeps

Posted by: kerzon417 | December 19, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Here's another poll question: At what point in the season did Reid "tank" this blog?

And: Please rate Reid's performance for the season on a scale of 0-10. (Some may feel that he doesn't even deserve a 1.)

Posted by: NYPDee | December 19, 2010 12:30 PM | Report abuse

If you NEED a QB and we clearly do...then why would you not draft a QB in the first round?

You could go O-line in the 2nd round.

Posted by: rickyroge | December 19, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

For those who think they "have been lied to", have you ever considered that neither the coaches or the Redskins organization have spoken to you? That what you are hearing or reading comes from lazy reporters which most of the time do not get the story from the participating parties but from some third, fourth, nth, person? Before you call someone classless, you should look in the mirror and ask yourself a question: What do I know?

Posted by: hock1 | December 19, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Are the Skins trying to 5-11?

No, they're trying to go 16-0. But they suck hairy balls, so they end up 5-11.

You can shuffle the coaches and players again, but as long as the poisonous Snyder culture remains, this team will suck.

Posted by: diesel_skins_ | December 19, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

In 1988 the Dallas Cowboys were accused of throwing their last game of the season against the Eagles to go 3-13. Then they used their first pick to draft Troy Aikman in 1989. How did that work out for the Boys?

Posted by: Skin4Life1 | December 19, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Count on it, they are in slumber mode.

Posted by: teeballou | December 19, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

No free agent gonna want to come here .. Only hope is the draft ..

Posted by: NiqueThaG8 | December 19, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

No free agent gonna want to come here .. Only hope is the draft ..

Posted by: NiqueThaG8 | December 19, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

You anti-Snyder people are like one of those insane cults...you can"t blame this season on Snyder...Shanahan has shown over and over again that he is running the show.

Posted by: Skin4Life1 | December 19, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

@ Skin4Life1

Snyder is the one constant the past 11 seasons. He's ultimately responsible for the institutionalized ineptitude of the Redskins.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | December 19, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Sell, Danny, sell!

Needs a whole new culture. From the top down. Maybe needs a new name and location - L.A. Boat People?

Posted by: BigTrees | December 19, 2010 1:42 PM | Report abuse

I I was Allen I would be focusing on the draft right about now. We need youth and speed at all positions. I would put almost every one as trade options except: L. Landry, D. Hall, McNabb unless he wants to be traded, Orakpo, Armstrong, the entire O-Line, B. Banks, and Torain. But everyone else I would put on the blocks. Sorry Cooley but you would be able to give us a second or 3rd for your talents.
Our needs: a CB, 2 LBs, DT, DE, change of pace RB, WR, OG, RT, QB

Posted by: harris73 | December 19, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Lousy play calling just before and after Cooley makes that catch for a first down...should have run the ball more to take time off the clock....

Good game though by the Skins...still means nothing in the long run and gives fans a false sense of security as far as Grossman and team...long road ahead in rebuilding...

Posted by: pentagon40 | December 19, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

"If you NEED a QB and we clearly do...then why would you not draft a QB in the first round?You could go O-line in the 2nd round.
Posted by: rickyroge"

There are a bunch of good QB prospects clustered near the top, but no dominant, sure-fire type.

Andrew Luck should go first -- he's a Sam Bradford type. Carolina would definitely grab him.

Ryan Mallett is the big-bodied, big arm, Ben Roethlisberger type. His stock dropped a little during the season. Blaine Gabbert of Missouri is the poor man's Mallett with better legs; his stock climbed some. Cam Newton came out of nowhere and nobody knows how to rate the kid. A wonderful runner with a very strong arm. But he's not exactly a scrambler like Mike Vick, and he's not particularly accurate, which will make a difference when the receiver isn't wide open...as they won't be in the pros.

Still, how do you pass up an athlete like that, even when you know he might turn out to be Vince Young?

Jake Locker has fallen off the roof and now no one is sure where to place him. Probably as fast as Newton and in some ways the more proficient QB. But his team did nothing this year.

Chris Ponder remains a second or third round candidate. Good size, mobile, reasonably smart, gutsy. But he could turn out to be Shawn Hill.

Posted by: Samson151 | December 19, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Thing about the Skins is, they need a RB, WR, OL, too.

Posted by: Samson151 | December 19, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

"Shanaklan" Looked like a happier Guy in defeat Today than He has in victory I guess the team lost but he "won" he looked like he had proved a point But you play to win the games!

Posted by: phildozier | December 19, 2010 5:36 PM | Report abuse

The problem with the Skins is they have no identity. If they want to run the ball then they need to focus in the draft with talent to run. A 1st rd running back, strong and deep OL talent. B-More is known for Defense, Colts is known for offensive passing attack. We need to have a identity on offense and one on defense to be respected and feared. Torain looks good and can be our starter back for the future but we also need a speedy back to compliment him. We also need to get faster with our WR, everyone hypes up WRs but if we find speed we can develop hands, We need to look to aquire either late draft picks like the patriots did or sleepers. Here is my wish list of possible selections:
Ryan Mallett, QB, Arkansas
Tyrod Taylor, QB, Virginia Tech
Darren Evans, RB, Virginia Tech - if he goes pro
Shane Vereen, RB, California
Ryan Williams, RB, Virginia Tech - if he goes pro
Denard Robinson, QB, Michigan - if he goes pro
Jimmy Smith, CB, Colorado
Curtis Brown, CB, Texas

Posted by: harris73 | December 19, 2010 6:18 PM | Report abuse

The problem with the Skins is they have no identity. If they want to run the ball then they need to focus in the draft with talent to run. A 1st rd running back, strong and deep OL talent. B-More is known for Defense, Colts is known for offensive passing attack. We need to have a identity on offense and one on defense to be respected and feared. Torain looks good and can be our starter back for the future but we also need a speedy back to compliment him. We also need to get faster with our WR, everyone hypes up WRs but if we find speed we can develop hands, We need to look to aquire either late draft picks like the patriots did or sleepers. Here is my wish list of possible selections:
Ryan Mallett, QB, Arkansas
Tyrod Taylor, QB, Virginia Tech
Darren Evans, RB, Virginia Tech - if he goes pro
Shane Vereen, RB, California
Ryan Williams, RB, Virginia Tech - if he goes pro
Denard Robinson, QB, Michigan - if he goes pro
Jimmy Smith, CB, Colorado
Curtis Brown, CB, Texas

Posted by: harris73 | December 19, 2010 6:20 PM | Report abuse

The problem with the Skins is they have no identity. If they want to run the ball then they need to focus in the draft with talent to run. A 1st rd running back, strong and deep OL talent. B-More is known for Defense, Colts is known for offensive passing attack. We need to have a identity on offense and one on defense to be respected and feared. Torain looks good and can be our starter back for the future but we also need a speedy back to compliment him. We also need to get faster with our WR, everyone hypes up WRs but if we find speed we can develop hands, We need to look to aquire either late draft picks like the patriots did or sleepers. Here is my wish list of possible selections:
Ryan Mallett, QB, Arkansas
Tyrod Taylor, QB, Virginia Tech
Darren Evans, RB, Virginia Tech - if he goes pro
Shane Vereen, RB, California
Ryan Williams, RB, Virginia Tech - if he goes pro
Denard Robinson, QB, Michigan - if he goes pro
Jimmy Smith, CB, Colorado
Curtis Brown, CB, Texas

Posted by: harris73 | December 19, 2010 6:20 PM | Report abuse

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