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Donovan McNabb 'excited' about trade to Redskins

Updated at 11:34 p.m.

Donovan McNabb, who was traded by the Philadelphia Eagles to the Washington Redskins on Sunday night, said he is "absolutely looking forward to this ... absolutely. I'm excited about it, no question."

McNabb spoke by telephone with Washington Post columnist Mike Wilbon for a column on the trade.

Of prime concern to McNabb, though, was the reaction of Redskins quarterback Jason Campbell, who remains under the Redskins' control but is not under contract.

"I need to get in touch with Jason," McNabb told Wilbon. "I need to hear his thoughts on all this. ... You know I really like Jason."

Shanahan statement

Redskins Coach Mike Shanahan, in a statement released by the team: "Donovan is an accomplished quarterback who has been a proven winner in the National Football League. I have long admired his competitiveness and feel he will be an outstanding addition to the Redskins and our community. He knows our division and the roadmap to success in the NFC East. He will set a high standard of excellence and we are very excited to welcome Donovan to the Washington Redskins."

What's your take?

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By Cindy Boren  |  April 4, 2010; 10:12 PM ET
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Comments

WOW!!!!! Burgundy and Gold!!

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | April 4, 2010 10:16 PM | Report abuse

We needed a leader on the field and the above statement clearly shows that we got one. Bravo Mike. Unlike Holmgrem you were patient and got a upgrade instead of settling for Delhomme.

Posted by: anacostia85 | April 4, 2010 10:17 PM | Report abuse

dcwun...

The guy went to the playoffs for the last...7 or 8 years?

Why should Shanahan as a new coach have any allegiance to Jason Campbell?

Nothing personal against Campbell, but I'd give Shanahan the benefit of the doubt on this one.

Posted by: rickyroge | April 4, 2010 10:15 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: rickyroge | April 4, 2010 10:17 PM | Report abuse

I suppose Jimmy Clausen made the Zorn mistake and said he would be happy in Maroon and Black...

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | April 4, 2010 10:19 PM | Report abuse

fwiw, since 2005, McNabb has a 4-4 record vs the Skins. He had 90+ rating in 3 of the 8 games. McNabb was 4-4 vs the jints and 3-7 vs dallas.

So he didn't come here because he's shown he can consistently beat the teams in the division. And he wasn't killing the Skins.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 4, 2010 10:20 PM | Report abuse

Great move. McNabb is a great player and a great leader. He brings a truly professional mindset to the Skins locker room and will lead by example. If the Skins can put together a prototypical Shanahan running game, McNabb will be even more dangerous. In Philly he was operating in an offense that threw the ball around 70% of the time.

Posted by: manlius1 | April 4, 2010 10:21 PM | Report abuse

This doesn't add up. Gotta be more on the way. It's small upgrade at a position that ranks closer to 10 than 5 in our top 10 positions of need at VERY high cost.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | April 4, 2010 10:19 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: RomoLongballs | April 4, 2010 10:22 PM | Report abuse

Wonder how excited McNabb will be when he compares the Skins OL to the Eagles?
How about the WR of the Skins compared to the Eagles?
Tomorrow morning McNabb may not be so excited...

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | April 4, 2010 10:22 PM | Report abuse

I still see Bradford being a Redskin in 3 weeks!

Posted by: C-DubDC | April 4, 2010 10:23 PM | Report abuse

Adam Scheffter reporting right now Skins threw in the extra pick and it was thus the most attractive offer Eagles received.

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | April 4, 2010 10:24 PM | Report abuse

This is a deeper move than it may first look, in my opinion. Takes the QB position out of speculation for our #4 pick. Sets up an interesting dynamic. If Okung is at 4, take him. If not, but either Suh or Bradford is, you have an excellent shot of trading down for more picks, and maybe getting *two* starting OL within the first two rounds. Plus you still have JC17 to trade (he'd make a fabulous backup -- which if you remember from the Charlie Whitehurst trade -- people are overpaying for backup QBs).

Posted by: dragon2eden | April 4, 2010 10:24 PM | Report abuse

I still see Bradford being a Redskin in 3 weeks!

Posted by: C-DubDC | April 4, 2010 10:23 PM

I agree but now he can sit for 3 years instead of being forced to play at some point this year.

Posted by: anacostia85 | April 4, 2010 10:25 PM | Report abuse

rickyroge....

Team game my man. McNabb gets hurt a lot. How many weeks before he's laid to rest behind this O-line?

Posted by: dcwun | April 4, 2010 10:25 PM | Report abuse

Breaking News
It is late in the first half and UCONN women are winning by only 13 points!!

They have avg. 40 point wins thus far...

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | April 4, 2010 10:26 PM | Report abuse

Okay who would be suitors for Campbell now?

My money is on Zona and Mini (if Favre retires).

Posted by: alex35332 | April 4, 2010 10:26 PM | Report abuse

Wait until he sees last year's game films.

"Offensive tackles? We don't need no stinking' tackles."

We can pick 2 of 'em up in the draft and another 2 backups at the bus depot.

Yep, they're all over the place.

Posted by: SteveMG | April 4, 2010 10:26 PM | Report abuse

Seriously, my first reaction was that this was an April Fool's Day joke, and then I realized that April Fool's Day was a couple days ago.

JReid, did you forget to post some news about Shallen having been fired and Vinny having been re-hired this morning?

Because if this is a Shallen move, then I'm going back into Redskins exile.

So while the Eagles stockpile draftpicks to reload their team for the next 10 years, we are going to go into training camp with Donovan McNabb, CLinton Portis, Larry Johnson and Willie Parker. A year from now our friggin roster is going to need to be replaced. I mean, are we rebuilding here?

Can someone tell Shallen that it's not 2006??

Posted by: p1funk | April 4, 2010 10:28 PM | Report abuse

I've always had a ton of respect for McNabb even though he was an Eagle - but I just don't know if this is going to work out well. Unless Donovan commits to becoming an All-pro left tackle.

Posted by: Kev29 | April 4, 2010 10:28 PM | Report abuse

R U KIDDING ME? Wow. Wake up from a nap in some alternative universe. Just wow.

Cosign dragontoeden... I don't think these moves are done either. Should get a 3rd/4th for JC... and it does set up a trade back from 4 especially if Okung is off the board at 2 to Detroit... teams will come get Mcsuhberry at 4. Hope so anyway.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | April 4, 2010 10:28 PM | Report abuse

On the pro side, McNabb also had line trouble and zero running game. Iggles had breakout speed receivers, we've got some pass catchers that could be on the cusp. They went to the playoffs, we were 4-12.

Now we have a good coaching, though.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | April 4, 2010 10:28 PM | Report abuse

dcwun...

You can best believe that Mcnabb will not hold the ball nearly as long as JC.

Do you honestly think that this O-line with Shanahan as the coach and McNabb behind center will stink as bad.

Remember...it's also the job of the QB to help the O-line.

Posted by: rickyroge | April 4, 2010 10:29 PM | Report abuse

Expect the Skins to sign Flozell Adams later this week.

Posted by: Lisa_R | April 4, 2010 10:30 PM | Report abuse

PUKE!!

So McNabb is chatting it up with Washed-Up-Wilbon fretting over what Jason Campbell is feeling right now.

BTW, McNabb is NOT "excited" to be here. He's been playing against this lousy clown of a team for years and he knows he's much further from a Superbowl than he was in Philly.

Posted by: p1funk | April 4, 2010 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Do folks really believe that you can pick up two quality starting offensive lineman in the draft?

Two guys that are prepared to play 16 grueling games?

Just like that?

Crazy.

Posted by: SteveMG | April 4, 2010 10:30 PM | Report abuse

On the pro side, McNabb also had line trouble and zero running game. Iggles had breakout speed receivers, we've got some pass catchers that could be on the cusp. They went to the playoffs, we were 4-12.

Now we have a good coaching, though.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | April 4, 2010 10:28 PM

Exactly remember we had Zorn running the show for the last 2 years. Now we have a real NFL head coach.

Posted by: anacostia85 | April 4, 2010 10:31 PM | Report abuse

Wonder how excited McNabb will be when he compares the Skins OL to the Eagles?
How about the WR of the Skins compared to the Eagles?
Tomorrow morning McNabb may not be so excited...

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | April 4, 2010 10:22 PM | Report abuse


Change your name....

Posted by: leevi98 | April 4, 2010 10:31 PM | Report abuse

McNabb is here to stay.

The Iggles are on an upward trajectory, compiling draft picks like ICBMs.

We get their aged, cast off QB with a history of disgruntlement.

His supporting cast was better in Philadelphia, yet his numbers were only marginally better than JC's.

Yet, I still like this move.

McNabb gives us a better shot then either JC or some rookie would have.

Either that, or this sucks.

I'm lost on this one.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 4, 2010 10:32 PM | Report abuse

"I need to get in touch with Jason," McNabb told Wilbon. "I need to hear his thoughts on all this. ... You know I really like Jason."
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This coming from a person who didn't want to share one or two snaps with Vick. McNabb already knows how Jason feels.

Posted by: postwell1 | April 4, 2010 10:33 PM | Report abuse

First thought: WOW
Second thought: There has to be more.

I told my buddy that I think that since the Skins seem so high on Bradford and the 1st real threat to the skins landing bradford is St. Louis with the 1st pick. Since the iggles seemed as if they were sending McNabb to oak then the skins stepped in and grabbed McNabb will then move him and our 4th overall to STL for their 1st overall and maybe a 2nd or 3rd.

Now this is a highly unlikely scenario, and Campbell to someone for a 2nd seems more likely, but it would be interesting. Although having a presser for McNabb on Tuesday then doing this seems a little unprofessional.

We shall see with Shanny

Posted by: rickmort | April 4, 2010 10:33 PM | Report abuse

First....assess this trade after the draft.....

Secondly, I think the success of this trade will be dependent on 4 primary factors:

1. Did McNabb provide us with an upgrade on the field and in the locker room

2. Did we get at least 4+ years of good performance from him

3. Did the move weaken the Eagles?

4. Are we able to move JC for a #2 (at the worst a #3 to mitigate the pick we gave up)

...on another note.. too many of you are up in arms about the "old" RB's we're signing...remember...RB's are a dime a dozen in Shanny's world and we only signed them to 1 year contracts anyways..besides my money says 2 of them won't make it out of training camp anyway.

Posted by: dchandl3 | April 4, 2010 10:33 PM | Report abuse

Seriously, my first reaction was that this was an April Fool's Day joke, and then I realized that April Fool's Day was a couple days ago.

JReid, did you forget to post some news about Shallen having been fired and Vinny having been re-hired this morning?

Because if this is a Shallen move, then I'm going back into Redskins exile.

So while the Eagles stockpile draftpicks to reload their team for the next 10 years, we are going to go into training camp with Donovan McNabb, CLinton Portis, Larry Johnson and Willie Parker. A year from now our friggin roster is going to need to be replaced. I mean, are we rebuilding here?

Can someone tell Shallen that it's not 2006??

Posted by: p1funk | April 4, 2010 10:28 PM | Report abuse

"Because if this is a Shallen move, then I'm going back into Redskins exile."


BYE HATTER!

Posted by: leevi98 | April 4, 2010 10:33 PM | Report abuse

Bruce Allen taking over where daddy left off, the return of the OVER THE HILL GANG, THE FUTURE IS NOW.

Posted by: cokedispatch | April 4, 2010 10:35 PM | Report abuse

Boy this is great...look at his record vs NFC teams...we aren't stepping up,he was barely better than Campbell playing WITH an O line and running game...

Now we add another proven whiner to the locker room to make Portis seem like stereo..lets see if they can pick up TO...it would be like a Bose...

Posted by: petebowling1 | April 4, 2010 10:37 PM | Report abuse

This is a disaster. The Eagles would never trade a franchise guy that could still play at a franchise level for a 2nd round pick (remember, his backup has 3 NFL starts). We aren't the Vikings of last year. We aren't going to the super bowl and just missing a piece. Our only OT is Heyer. He is not good, and he would likely have a hard time starting on either side for 25 of the teams in the NFL. It doesn't matter who our QB is. McNabb is only signed for 1 year. What does this buy us? We are giving up 2 high draft picks. Our 2nd rounder this year should be a longtime starter in the league. Is a 1 year upgrade at QB (if it is an upgrade) worth a high second rounder and 4th rounder? I'm flabbergasted. This sucks. New coach and GM, same old Redskins (I guess new coach is same old for us these days). I'm sick to my stomach. How can anyone commenting on this site (supposedly people that watch the games) really think that a 1 year upgrade at QB is going to change our team? We're screwed. This is awful.

Posted by: jonbrownvt | April 4, 2010 10:38 PM | Report abuse

A SMALL UPGRADE? You have got to be kidding.

Posted by: rbpalmer | April 4, 2010 10:25 PM | Report abuse

Around 5 points better in QBR last year. About same TDs, JC threw 5 more picks so got me there, I guess, and he's accomplished way more in the past. Then again, #5 had superior ball catchers, coaching, and overall organizational stability. All in all, though...

Yes, small upgrade. Factor in he's 4 years older and has at least twice as many season-ending injuries as JC, the upside part of this actually gets smaller.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | April 4, 2010 10:39 PM | Report abuse

"I need to get in touch with Jason," McNabb told Wilbon. "I need to hear his thoughts on all this. ... You know I really like Jason."
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This coming from a person who didn't want to share one or two snaps with Vick. McNabb already knows how Jason feels.

Posted by: postwell1 | April 4, 2010 10:33 PM

I don't see Indy, the Saints or any other team with a legit quarterback running that mess. Imagine taking Peyton or Brees out of the game for any reason other than they are hurt or the game is over.

Posted by: anacostia85 | April 4, 2010 10:40 PM | Report abuse

Okay who would be suitors for Campbell now?

My money is on Zona and Mini (if Favre retires).

Posted by: alex35332 | April 4, 2010 10:26 PM
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If Shanny Sr and Jr have had 3 months breaking down 2009 film of JC and a few minicamps (optional) with JC.. And he decides to make this move this soon (ie not even wait for preseason evaluation), what does that say of JC's future as an NFL Starter?

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 4, 2010 10:41 PM | Report abuse

My opinion- which, with a dollar, will get you a cup of coffee- is that this is a mistake. If we do this, I think we need to trade JC (who I was hoping could be the man, despite all). But since we tendered him, it's highly unlikely a team gives up a 1st rd pick for him. This just seems like a panic move to me. Hope I'm wrong. Still need to DRAFT OKUNG

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | April 4, 2010 10:41 PM | Report abuse

I'd rather have McNabb than Campbell or a gamble (Tebow or McCoy).

We still have the 4th pick and I imagine we'll packaging that with Campbell (SF, Buff) or Cooley (NE?) to move down and get two tackles.

And our team will be a Helluva lot better on opening day then it was last year.

It's hard to understand how a 2nd and conditional 4th/3rd for a pro bowl westcoast qb can be seen as anything other than a good thing. McNabb's a QB, not a RB or corner; he's not too old.

Posted by: brianearman | April 4, 2010 10:42 PM | Report abuse

PUKE!!

So McNabb is chatting it up with Washed-Up-Wilbon fretting over what Jason Campbell is feeling right now.

BTW, McNabb is NOT "excited" to be here. He's been playing against this lousy clown of a team for years and he knows he's much further from a Superbowl than he was in Philly.

Posted by: p1funk | April 4, 2010 10:30 PM | Report abuse

tired of you...You whined when Vinniw was here...you whine at every single move the skins make or don't make...

Do us all a favor and go to the giants, eagles or better yet...the dallas blog..

your not a skins fan your a HATTER...and all you do is try and spread negativity on this blog...do us a favor and just either be quiet or go away!

Posted by: leevi98 | April 4, 2010 10:42 PM | Report abuse

I have to seriously question the football knowledge of people who argue that McNabb is terrible or is only a slight upgrade over JC. There are reasons to criticize this deal (McNabb only signed for one more season and, at his age, is only a stop-gap measure), but McNabb doesn't improve us SIGNIFICANTLY at QB isn't one of them. On balance, I like the move. One, he fills the QB need for the next few years and allows us to address the team's many other needs in the draft. Two, we were going to burn a high draft pick on a QB anyway; it might as well be on a proven commodity. Three, he will be totally jacked when we play Philly twice a year.

Posted by: rbpalmer | April 4, 2010 10:40 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: rbpalmer | April 4, 2010 10:42 PM | Report abuse

lol..."hatter"

Posted by: RomoLongballs | April 4, 2010 10:42 PM | Report abuse

BMitch says this gives the Redskin's Offense instant credibility.

and I have to agree.

McNabb is a big time NFL QB.

Just ask DeSean Jackson!

Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 4, 2010 10:42 PM | Report abuse

dcwun...

You can best believe that Mcnabb will not hold the ball nearly as long as JC.

Do you honestly think that this O-line with Shanahan as the coach and McNabb behind center will stink as bad.

Remember...it's also the job of the QB to help the O-line.

Posted by: rickyroge

Do you really believe the iggles would send him to a division rival if he had anything left? C'mon! We got the dirty end of this one while the iggles continue to build a winner for the next 5-7 years.

Posted by: dcwun | April 4, 2010 10:42 PM | Report abuse

You know who's opinion on this I really don't care about? Wilbon's.

Seriously, he'll just jock sniff Donovan and patronize JC. And say that he's "not surprised"

Posted by: Kev29 | April 4, 2010 10:43 PM | Report abuse

You know, a long, long time ago, the Redskins and Eagles traded quaterbacks. I seem to recall that deal worked out pretty well.....

Posted by: scollins | April 4, 2010 10:44 PM | Report abuse

I am pretty surprised at the outbursts from some people here who don't like this move. First, McNabb is not injured a lot. He has had injuries from time to time, but plays most games. He has had, to my recollection, two season ending injuries in his 11 year career. Not bad for a high mobility QB who drops back to throw on 70% of all snaps. Second, he is not likely at the end of his career. He is 33. He has at least 2 and as many as 4 or 5 good seasons left. Third, the guy is very accurate. He completes around 60% of his passes, and he throws downfield fairly regularly. Sure, he bounces a few, but I would prefer that to some guy who sails throws over the middle. Bounces don't get picked. For anyone who was okay with the Skins taking a QB with their second round pick, why would you not want to have McNabb -- a proven winner and possible future HOFer -- with that pick instead of some guy who is totally untested in the pros and was not even considered good enough to be drafted in the first round? You have to figure the Skins go with Okung with the fourth pick, so we start to build the line. And when Shanny does find a young QB he likes, wouldn't you rather have him come up under the tutelege of someone like McNabb? I would.

Posted by: manlius1 | April 4, 2010 10:44 PM | Report abuse

"I need to get in touch with Jason," McNabb told Wilbon. "I need to hear his thoughts on all this. ... You know I really like Jason."
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This coming from a person who didn't want to share one or two snaps with Vick. McNabb already knows how Jason feels.

Posted by: postwell1 | April 4, 2010 10:33 PM
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that statement means the Skins have to trade JC. Each guy is going to be conflicted and less effective overall.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 4, 2010 10:45 PM | Report abuse

Shocking. Unbelievable. Speechless.

McNabb is a player. Arguably the most underrated QB of the decade. He's been a guaranteed perennial playoff contender, and he's done it with minimal help year in, year out on offense.

It's a big gamble. But Shanahan didn't come here to preside over a rebuilding project. This is a move to win, and win now. If the Redskins can get a day one starter at OT in the draft, and if McNabb can stay healthy, I see this team going far.

I've said all along that there is talent on this roster. Shanahan knows it, and now he's betting the house on being right. One thing is for sure; this will be an exciting season for us.

Posted by: psps23 | April 4, 2010 10:46 PM | Report abuse

Reid made this move based on that game Kolb played against the Saints where he threw for a ton of yardage but they still were blown out. Let's see how good that Philly offense will be without Westbrook and McNabb.

Posted by: anacostia85 | April 4, 2010 10:46 PM | Report abuse

dcwun...

This was not about the Eagles thinking Donovan had nothing left. This was that they were at a point of no return. They had 3 starters on their roster and had to trade one of them, and Donovan had the most value.

Anyone that thinks that McNabb is only a "slight" upgrade over Campbell is loco!

Posted by: rickyroge | April 4, 2010 10:47 PM | Report abuse

If Shanny Sr and Jr have had 3 months breaking down 2009 film of JC and a few minicamps (optional) with JC.. And he decides to make this move this soon (ie not even wait for preseason evaluation), what does that say of JC's future as an NFL Starter?

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 4, 2010 10:41 PM

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JC might fare well in a new town -- depends on the circumstances.

The tape was certainly not kind to JC. Shanny and Son didn't see a guy who was particularly adept as a field general.

Just goes to show that despite the kind words and due deference to veterans when Shanny took control, no one on this roster is safe.

Clinton Portis...

Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 4, 2010 10:48 PM | Report abuse

Manlius1 - please read this

The problem is that McNabb has no upside. We know who and what he is. He is under contract for one year. So it doesn't matter if he has 4 or 5 good ones. He has to be resigned. And if we resign him after that, no young guy is going to develop. So to have him for one year, when we could've had JC for one year, good or bad, doesn't make sense. The choice wasn't between McNabb and JC, it was between McNabb, and JC, a 2nd round pick, and a 3rd/4th next year. If we move JC for a 2nd round pick, this entire point is rendered moot. If we now have no leverage because everyone knows we trade him, we are the same joke as always.

We are not winning the super bowl this year. WHY DO WE NEED MCNABB FOR 1 YEAR??????????????????

Posted by: jonbrownvt | April 4, 2010 10:50 PM | Report abuse

You know, a long, long time ago, the Redskins and Eagles traded quaterbacks. I seem to recall that deal worked out pretty well.....

Posted by: scollins | April 4, 2010 10:44 PM

Well, we're a long way from 1964. Sonny was also 4 years younger when he was traded south.

Posted by: Kev29 | April 4, 2010 10:51 PM | Report abuse

First of all, people who are throwing those sats up, they don't mean any thing, because JC would put up those stats when game is pretty much over and when teams were taking it easy. He is not in the same league is Mcnabb and never will be. He is in the league for 6 years and excuses just don't seem to end why he can't succeed.

We are going to Super Ball!

Posted by: capitolteacher | April 4, 2010 10:53 PM | Report abuse

"As far as Washington goes, we thought this was best for Donovan and obviously the compensation was right," Reid said. "And again, obviously we thought through this like we do every move that we make. But this will be a good situation for Donovan, and also I would say it's a good situation for Mike Shanahan and the Washington Redskins. They've acquired a tremendous football player, and I will always wish Donovan the best of luck, with the exception of two weeks during the year."

-Andy Reid

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Andy Reid makes a charitable donation to a divisional rival?

Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 4, 2010 10:54 PM | Report abuse

So, how soon before McNabb films an "Easten Motors" commercial?

Posted by: boricuabopper | April 4, 2010 10:55 PM | Report abuse

"Thanks for signing in. Your washingtonpost.com User ID, Vicc, will be displayed with your comment."

`

I find this odd considering I haven't even signed in yet.

Kinda like the "Chucky" Good Guy Doll operating without batteries...

The top left hand corner of this page reads:
Sign In | Register Now

is my computer possessed?

Posted by: Vicc | April 4, 2010 10:55 PM | Report abuse

What is so shocking about saying McNabb and JC are not significantly different right now (underline those last two words). Look, I'm saying #5 is an upgrade. I know he's accomplished a lot in the past, much much more than JC. But we're looking at now, and near/mid/long range future, so when you look at last year (again), what is so different about them?

I guess more importantly, why was this particular move so necessary for a 4-12 team with a ton of other holes to fill (supposedly). And was it worth our 37th and a potentially valuable pick next year?

Posted by: RomoLongballs | April 4, 2010 10:55 PM | Report abuse

By acquiring Donovan McNabb for a second-round draft choice in 2010 and a third- or fourth-rounder in 2011, the Eagles may have given Redskins owner Daniel Snyder the short-term tool to move ahead of the Eagles in the NFC East race. In a quarterback-driven league, the Redskins should be able to finally score enough points to not just be a wild-card playoff contender, but to be a division winner.

Despite being 33 years old, McNabb can add to the Redskins what Brett Favre added to the Minnesota Vikings last season and Steve McNair added to the Baltimore Ravens in a trade in 2006. Franchise quarterbacks add points to the scoreboard. Favre added 5.7 points per game to the Vikings last season and they advanced from a 10-win team to a 12-win team. McNair added 5.5 points per game to the Ravens in 2006, and they had a 13-3 season.

Former Redskins coach Joe Gibbs thought he drafted a franchise quarterback for Snyder when he took Jason Campbell in the first round of the 2005 draft. Campbell never produced enough points for the Redskins as a starter. Under Campbell, the Redskins never averaged more than 20.9 points a game, not good enough to be atop a division.


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=5055486

Posted by: anacostia85 | April 4, 2010 10:55 PM | Report abuse

Man, we've complained about Snyder/Vinny et al. using short-term solutions to problems instead of long-term ones, e.g., getting big names instead of solid no-names, and then the new regime picks a nice QB but one on the downside of his career.

Weird.

If somehow Allen is able to get an O-line to surround McNab, it's a good move.

Otherwise, I'm scratching my head.

I like McNabb. I like him better with a good line.

Posted by: SteveMG | April 4, 2010 10:56 PM | Report abuse

JohnBrown. Why wouldn't McNabb want to resign with the Redskins? Because Snyder doesn't have the money? Because he's not motivated enough to give the middle finger to Philadelphia? What would you have preferred with the 2nd and 4th round picks? Tebow and someone from next year's draft who may or may not make the team?

Posted by: brianearman | April 4, 2010 10:57 PM | Report abuse

I can't wait to watch a news conference with three super bowl trophies on display while we sign someone who will not take us to a super bowl. But, definitely an upgrade from campbell. Time to move on and get some picks for him.

Posted by: BMACattack | April 4, 2010 10:58 PM | Report abuse

This was not about the Eagles thinking Donovan had nothing left. This was that they were at a point of no return. They had 3 starters on their roster and had to trade one of them, and Donovan had the most value.

Anyone that thinks that McNabb is only a "slight" upgrade over Campbell is loco!

Posted by: rickyroge | April 4, 2010 10:47 PM

RR- Completely disagree.

1. The Eagles had until May 5th to trade or pay the 6.2 mil contract bonus.
2. They had 18 days until the draft to trade him for picks this year.
3. If the Eagles felt he could still play at a high level or that he would pose much of a threat they never would have traded him to an interdivisional opponent.
4. The Eagles are already more talented at just about every position and we just gave them two early picks to widen the gap.

This is a desperate and shortsighted trade that I hope turns out better than the Jason Taylor trade.

Posted by: Diesel44 | April 4, 2010 10:58 PM | Report abuse

Johnbrown, the upside with McNabb is that you do know what you are getting -- a serious professional who will help lead and set the tone for the entire clubhouse. This is essential after the Zorn era. What is more, In my view, you want to have your next QB be an understudy for someone like McNabb for a while. I am not on board with this trend of drafting some guy and putting him in charge of things right away. I think that is more likely to lead to failure that to success.

All of this assumes the Skins re-sign McNabb and I strongly suppose they will. They might even do that before the season starts to that is not an issue going forward

If you can get a top-10 NFL QB who wins like McNabb has won (better than 2 to 1 win percentage in reg season and over .500 in playoffs) for a measly second round pick plus a future pick in a later round, I just don't see why you would not do it.

Posted by: manlius1 | April 4, 2010 10:59 PM | Report abuse

Here's Wilbon's column:

goggle gockle choke gahgle

Posted by: mcoghlan | April 4, 2010 11:00 PM | Report abuse

Around 5 points better in QBR last year. About same TDs, JC threw 5 more picks so got me there, I guess, and he's accomplished way more in the past. Then again, #5 had superior ball catchers, coaching, and overall organizational stability. All in all, though...

Yes, small upgrade. Factor in he's 4 years older and has at least twice as many season-ending injuries as JC, the upside part of this actually gets smaller.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | April 4, 2010 10:39 PM | Report abuse

The bottom line is that McNabb gets the ball in the end zone, and Campbell doesn't. Yes, Campbell only threw 2 fewer TD passes than McNabb did last year, but over the preceding three years, McNabb has thrown 64, and Campbell, 45. But this stat, like the QB rating and interception numbers you quoted, only tell part of the story. The other part comes from watching the games, and that tells me that McNabb makes more big plays, especially in key situations.

Posted by: rbpalmer | April 4, 2010 11:00 PM | Report abuse

Now that we got McNabb, the skin's should trade Jason and get another first round pick. Im pretty sure the skins are selecting Okung and maybe if they trade jason, they should select either eric berry, or a DT, or a wide-out like Dez Bryant..

Posted by: b_balltim3 | April 4, 2010 11:00 PM | Report abuse

Well, its been two hours non-stop of reading this blog, watching ESPN News.
I need to get to bed, folks.

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | April 4, 2010 11:02 PM | Report abuse

ya know john elway was 34 years old when Shanny took over as HC in Denver...just saying

Posted by: leevi98 | April 4, 2010 11:02 PM | Report abuse

Mixed emotions about this one. At first didn't like it but now starting to like it. He'll make Thomas and Kelly better and hold Portis' ego in check (if the signing of Johnson and Parker didn't do it already). He brings credibility and vast knowledge of the west coast offense and the division. But he's a step from the retirement ladder and we're giving up picks.

Posted by: visionof75 | April 4, 2010 11:02 PM | Report abuse

I seem to remember Mike Shanahan once with an old, past-his-prime, future HOF QB with a reputation for getting deep in the playoffs, but choking in the big game.

He won 2 Super Bowls with that guy.

This trade is growing on me...

Posted by: psps23 | April 4, 2010 11:03 PM | Report abuse

People on here are not trying to compare JC stats with Mcnabb are they? Seriously? lol lets just say this now....of course JC had a better completion % mcnabb threw the ball 70% of the time and 3 times more downfield....of course this won't matter...people will still say JC is better for us...LOL

Posted by: leevi98 | April 4, 2010 11:04 PM | Report abuse

Another point -- McNabb has always been great throwing to TEs in Philadelphia. How happy are Davis and Cooley about this! Brent Celek might not be too happy though.

Posted by: manlius1 | April 4, 2010 11:04 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins just helped make their division opponent that much better. McNabb is clearly on the downside of what has been a great career. Playing behind a horrible offensive line, he's unlikely to make it through a season in one piece. Instead of using the 37th pick for a bookend OT to go with Okung who we should take with the 4th pick, we've given the Iggles another high draft pick.

They were planning on starting Kobb anyways and now have ridden themselves from paying a huge $6.2M bonus that was due next month. McNabb had seen his better days in Philly and as much as Reid liked him, he knew they would have a better shot at challening with Kobb at QB.

Posted by: wizfan89 | April 4, 2010 11:05 PM | Report abuse

dcwun...

This was not about the Eagles thinking Donovan had nothing left. This was that they were at a point of no return. They had 3 starters on their roster and had to trade one of them, and Donovan had the most value.

Anyone that thinks that McNabb is only a "slight" upgrade over Campbell is loco!

Posted by: rickyroge | April 4, 2010 10:47

I guess we'll see. There's a reason why the Packers didn't send Favre to the Vikes. You don't send a player who has anything left to a division rival.

Posted by: dcwun | April 4, 2010 11:05 PM | Report abuse

Instant credibilty

Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 4, 2010 11:06 PM | Report abuse

Diesel44...

First...I agree with a previous post...I think this is jsut one of many moves and I think we should see how the entire draft plays out before assessing this move.

Second...McNabb is better than anyone that we have and (possibly) anyone we would have drafted.

Third...Many or Most of the people on this blog were against drafting a QB at #4...because of BUST potential...

Why should Shanahan be committed to Campbell just because we think he's gotten a raw deal. I trust Shanahan, both Kyle and Mike more than Zorn.

Posted by: rickyroge | April 4, 2010 11:06 PM | Report abuse

The other part comes from watching the games, and that tells me that McNabb makes more big plays, especially in key situations.

Posted by: rbpalmer | April 4, 2010 11:00 PM | Report abuse

Were you particularly blown away by McNabb the two times we played them last year? Nothing stands out to me. If you go position by position, they have us at just about everything other than TE. We played a better team and lost twice.

The past is only a predictor of the future, but it's not assured to repeat itself. He could be a world-beater or deteriorate faster than you can say Terrell Davis. I wasn't necessarily ready to bet our 37th pick on the former.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | April 4, 2010 11:07 PM | Report abuse

I seem to remember Mike Shanahan once with an old, past-his-prime, future HOF QB with a reputation for getting deep in the playoffs, but choking in the big game.

He won 2 Super Bowls with that guy.

This trade is growing on me...

Posted by: psps23 | April 4, 2010 11:03 PM | Report abuse

DITTO...not only that...similar to Elway..Mcnabb has never played in an offense committed to the run....until NOW....just like for Elway when Shanny got there and drafted TD...just sayin

Posted by: leevi98 | April 4, 2010 11:07 PM | Report abuse

I dunno dcwun.

Didn't Favre prove that he had plenty left?

Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 4, 2010 11:08 PM | Report abuse

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/12618/report-donovan-mcnabb-headed-to-redskins

"But let's not forget what Kolb showed in 2009. In two starts, he was rather underwhelming. He racked up huge yardage in garbage time against the Saints and abused a Chiefs defense that can't get after quarterbacks and isn't talented on any level."

Posted by: Vicc | April 4, 2010 11:08 PM | Report abuse

What is so shocking about saying McNabb and JC are not significantly different right now (underline those last two words). Look, I'm saying #5 is an upgrade. I know he's accomplished a lot in the past, much much more than JC. But we're looking at now, and near/mid/long range future, so when you look at last year (again), what is so different about them?

I guess more importantly, why was this particular move so necessary for a 4-12 team with a ton of other holes to fill (supposedly). And was it worth our 37th and a potentially valuable pick next year?

Posted by: RomoLongballs | April 4, 2010 10:55 PM

You would have to have been dropped on your head as a child to disagree with this. This is the same one player away mentality that lead us to last year’s 4-12 season and the same reason we have only seen the playoffs twice in the last 11 years.

I was hoping that when we hired Shanny/Allen that they were interested in building a team that would be competitive for the longterm and weren’t delusional enough to think that we were one QB away from reversing the 0-6 in the NFC East and 4-12 record.

Posted by: Diesel44 | April 4, 2010 11:08 PM | Report abuse

Do you really believe the iggles would send him to a division rival if he had anything left? C'mon! We got the dirty end of this one while the iggles continue to build a winner for the next 5-7 years.

Posted by: dcwun | April 4, 2010 10:42 PM | Report abuse

Do YOU really believe that McNabb has nothing left? Did you actually watch any of the Eagles games last season? QBs commonly play, and are effective, into their middle and late 30s. I'm thinking that he has at least 3-4 good years left.

Posted by: rbpalmer | April 4, 2010 11:09 PM | Report abuse

Manlius - IF we can extend his contract, and IF we can get something for Campbell, then the trade is a wash and you can't complain so much. I'm not as down on JC as others, and I know McNabb was (and probably still is) legit. Even though I do trust the Eagles front office a little more than ours; without reading the terms, if most NFL fans saw Skins Eagles consummate a trade, the overwhelming majority would be ready to laugh at how we got fleeced.

A second round pick (especially the 37th) in the deepest draft in years is not "measly", and the future pick is another player that should give us depth, which we haven't had in years.

Time will tell...

Posted by: jonbrownvt | April 4, 2010 11:10 PM | Report abuse

Is anyone having trouble signing onto the Skins website? I can't get in....

Posted by: Lisa_R | April 4, 2010 11:11 PM | Report abuse

I dunno dcwun.

Didn't Favre prove that he had plenty left?

Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 4, 2010 11:08

Yeah. That's why the Packers refused to send him to the Vikings.

Posted by: dcwun | April 4, 2010 11:12 PM | Report abuse

"Donovan is an accomplished quarterback who has been a proven winner in the National Football League." - M. Shanahan


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Memo to our new coach: Associating winning to a QB is blasphemy on this blog. Is Mike Shanahan unaware that football is a team game?

Oh and I'm thinking of changing my handle to Mr.Sarcastic

Posted by: Vicc | April 4, 2010 11:12 PM | Report abuse

I think the "one player away mentality" might not be too far fetched when you're talking about acquiring a proven winner at the QB position.

Will we win a SB with McNabb this upcoming season?

Prolly not.

But cheers to having a chance at being top of the NFC East in 2010.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 4, 2010 11:13 PM | Report abuse

The one glaring thing this trade has proved??

that so called "fans' who come to this blog are just simply never happy and continue to whine and complain about every move the Skins make or don't make and they also can't seem to let go of the fact that the days of blaming the danny for everything are over but they still cling and crutch this as an argument.

Posted by: leevi98 | April 4, 2010 11:13 PM | Report abuse

I was hoping that when we hired Shanny/Allen that they were interested in building a team that would be competitive for the longterm and weren’t delusional enough to think that we were one QB away from reversing the 0-6 in the NFC East and 4-12 record.

Me too.

McNabb makes them better. Instead of a 4-12 team, they may be an 7-9 or 8-8 team. But that is really pushing things.

For a couple of years.

But then what?

There just doesn't seem to be any long term planning here. Old running backs with a year or two left.

Meanwhile, the major problem areas are left unattended. Not only unattended but the resources needed to address those areas are gone.

What is going on?

Posted by: SteveMG | April 4, 2010 11:13 PM | Report abuse

Wixfan, I have to disagree. There is absolutely no way on earth the Eagles would have started Kolb over McNabb so long as McNabb was on the team (and healthy, of course). Sure, the Eagles got a nice pick out of it. But that pick is not likely to make the Eagles significantly better next year. Longer term, perhaps it will -- maybe the Eagles get another DeSean Jackson, but maybe they get another high-pick DL bust (they have several of those under Reid). You just don't know about that pick. But you do know that McNabb can play.

Come September, if you were picking teams playground style and could have McNabb or Kolb for your team, you would not pick Kolb would you?

Posted by: manlius1 | April 4, 2010 11:14 PM | Report abuse

Statement from Mike Shanahan: The guy with the little pipi made me do it. I agreed to let him stick his forearm up by rear end when I agreed to take his millions. On the bright side, Redskins fans will have options to buy new jerseys this year. Come join us as we watch Donavan run for his life, and you can cheer him on with his number on your back. Don't forget to buy the red ones and the white ones. Buy a complete set for the whole family. Donavan's a Pro Bowler, don't you know.

Posted by: VeloStrummer | April 4, 2010 11:14 PM | Report abuse

Diesel44,

We haven't been making the playoffs b/c we haven't had a decent QB.

Look at our two playoff appearances this decade and you will find that QB play was the difference. Brunell had one of, if not, his best season as a pro in 2005 and Todd Collins had to play lights out for us to get in 2007

Posted by: Vicc | April 4, 2010 11:15 PM | Report abuse

What O-line, what RBs???

They had to freaking get Peters from the Bills last season to plug a hole at Tackle. Reid passes first - there is no run game in his playbook. Westbrook was hurt all season.

McNabb in a vertical attack system that establishes the run will be lethal with a "L".

We are getting these freaking picks back: 2nd rounder back in Chris Cooley being moved...JC will fetch a 4th rder probably...and if Okung is gone we are moving down for those that will pay for Suh/Berry. On the debit side, I am also calling a S. Moss + high pick for Marshall trade.

No amount of picks can insure a proven winner at QB and he is no over the hill Brunell.

Posted by: Political_Stratgst | April 4, 2010 11:15 PM | Report abuse

Wow the Eagles got ripped off in this trade! We get a pro bowl qb AND keep the number 4 pick which we can now shop to move down a bit and recoup picks while still ending up with franchise OT or just pick Okung if Shanny feels like he is head and shoulders above thew rest of the draft class.

Posted by: alex2792 | April 4, 2010 11:16 PM | Report abuse

By acquiring Donovan McNabb for a second-round draft choice in 2010 and a third- or fourth-rounder in 2011, the Eagles may have given Redskins owner Daniel Snyder the short-term tool to move ahead of the Eagles in the NFC East race. In a quarterback-driven league, the Redskins should be able to finally score enough points to not just be a wild-card playoff contender, but to be a division winner.

Despite being 33 years old, McNabb can add to the Redskins what Brett Favre added to the Minnesota Vikings last season and Steve McNair added to the Baltimore Ravens in a trade in 2006. Franchise quarterbacks add points to the scoreboard. Favre added 5.7 points per game to the Vikings last season and they advanced from a 10-win team to a 12-win team. McNair added 5.5 points per game to the Ravens in 2006, and they had a 13-3 season.

. . .

The McNabb trade should make the Redskins and Cowboys the early favorites to win the NFC East, and put the Eagles, who have moved 10 players this offseason, into just a wild-card possibility at best.

Snyder finally got his franchise quarterback. What he didn't expect was that it was going to be a quarterback who made the Eagles a conference championship contender every season.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/column...ohn&id=5055486

Posted by: leevi98 | April 4, 2010 11:16 PM | Report abuse

ok seriously a couple of things:

1. Better receivers? with the exception of desean jackson for the last 2 years and TO for 1 who did he have. So for 3 of his 11 years in the league he had a bonified starting caliber receiver. remember when he only had James Thrash as a primary receiver? he still took that team to 4 consecutive NFC title games. This guy is a proven winner in the league and you guys are complaining. Get real.

2. Somebody stated that he had a running game. Really? In what universe did the Eagles run the ball consistantly? They asked McNabb to carry the load on offense for years. No with Shanny and his mindset of running the football first it only makes McNabb and his very good play action skills all the more valuable. How can anyone complain about getting a guy of his caliber.

Think about the whole picture. We will sign him to an extension. This isn't a one year deal and we got him for a 2nd and a Possible 3rd next year IF HE DOES WELL. Next years pick we give them is Performance based. Just wow complainers....wow, get real

Posted by: SkinsRealist1 | April 4, 2010 11:16 PM | Report abuse

Do YOU really believe that McNabb has nothing left? Did you actually watch any of the Eagles games last season? QBs commonly play, and are effective, into their middle and late 30s. I'm thinking that he has at least 3-4 good years left.

Posted by: rbpalmer | April 4, 2010 11:09

Actually I did watch several Iggles games last year. The Skins games that McNabb played in the last two years is the QB that we'll get.

Posted by: dcwun | April 4, 2010 11:17 PM | Report abuse

The key to this trade is

a) getting something for JC, a second would be fantastic a third is more realistic
b) moving back from the 4 to add another pick while getting at least one stud LT

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | April 4, 2010 11:17 PM | Report abuse

I don't like how the o-line has yet to be addressed, the Skins gave up a second rounder and Sam Bradford is being flown in to try out for the fourth overall pick. This move will set the Redskins back another three years.

Posted by: RLDRY | April 4, 2010 11:17 PM | Report abuse

Nah, this is instant upgrade, he's 33, Favre's 40, everybody in the league wouldn't mind having this guy, plus

a know john elway was 34 years old when Shanny took over as HC in Denver...just saying

Posted by: leevi98

Posted by: frak | April 4, 2010 11:17 PM | Report abuse

If Shanny Sr and Jr have had 3 months breaking down 2009 film of JC and a few minicamps (optional) with JC.. And he decides to make this move this soon (ie not even wait for preseason evaluation), what does that say of JC's future as an NFL Starter?

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 4, 2010 10:41 PM

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JC might fare well in a new town -- depends on the circumstances.

The tape was certainly not kind to JC. Shanny and Son didn't see a guy who was particularly adept as a field general.

Just goes to show that despite the kind words and due deference to veterans when Shanny took control, no one on this roster is safe.

Clinton Portis...

Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 4, 2010 10:48 PM
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I think the innate skills of JC and McNabb are close..
But, the big difference is Leadership. And that is the what takes a team to the playoffs..

Many of the current skins have said as much privately or publicly about JC. That he does not Lead and thus has little respect on the field.

We'll see Donovan in the faces of everyone, Offense and Defense, if they are not doing their part.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 4, 2010 11:19 PM | Report abuse

This trade and getting something in return for Jason if we draft well and get two lineman that can keep Donovan upright our offense i could conceivably see us averaging 22-24 points a game and with the talent we got on defense is more than enough

Posted by: SkinsRealist1 | April 4, 2010 11:19 PM | Report abuse

But cheers to having a chance at being top of the NFC East in 2010.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 4, 2010 11:13 PM | Report abuse

McNabb got bounced by the Cowgirls, the divisional team that hadn't won a playoff game in about 15 years.

So if a quarterback is responsible for his team's win/loss record, how does this work for us? (I don't happen to buy into that philosophy, BTW. Team guy here.)

Posted by: RomoLongballs | April 4, 2010 11:20 PM | Report abuse

First...I agree with a previous post...I think this is jsut one of many moves and I think we should see how the entire draft plays out before assessing this move.

Second...McNabb is better than anyone that we have and (possibly) anyone we would have drafted.

Third...Many or Most of the people on this blog were against drafting a QB at #4...because of BUST potential...

Why should Shanahan be committed to Campbell just because we think he's gotten a raw deal. I trust Shanahan, both Kyle and Mike more than Zorn.

Posted by: rickyroge | April 4, 2010 11:06 PM

It's not a JC vs. McNabb argument . McNabb would be better than JC if he was 43.

The point is we are not a 33 yr old QB away from being competitive and we just gave two high picks to a team that had zero leverage and already has a much better roster than us.

If the Eagles still believed he could still play at a high level and posed any threat they wouldn’t have traded him to an interdivisional foe.

Posted by: Diesel44 | April 4, 2010 11:20 PM | Report abuse

Well, it's time to look for some Chunky Campbell soup with Redskins potatoes...lol

So now we have 2 QBs that have Superbowl starting experience. That could be good to help inspire some of the younger guys on the team.

Hope that pick 1 goes to Okung/OT and that, if we trade Campbell, use that pick (whether it's a 2nd or a 3rd) on another OT.

We should certainly make DANG sure we get Levi signed ASAFP to make sure we're not going into the draft with Heyer as our only "viable" option at tackle (viable may be way too generous to describe him)

Hope this gamble pays off. Maybe it's not a gamble; they may have something in the hopper to tackle the needs at tackle. Please no on Adams, the human penalty machine.

HTTR

Posted by: DC2AZ99 | April 4, 2010 11:23 PM | Report abuse

Nah, this is instant upgrade, he's 33, Favre's 40, everybody in the league wouldn't mind having this guy, plus

a know john elway was 34 years old when Shanny took over as HC in Denver...just saying

Posted by: leevi98

this is not me I wrote "john elway was 34 years old when Shanny took over as HC in Denver...just saying"

I wrote nothing else on this post.ummm why are you rewriting what I wrote and adding thsi to the beginning "Nah, this is instant upgrade, he's 33, Favre's 40, everybody in the league wouldn't mind having this guy, plus"

Posted by: leevi98 | April 4, 2010 11:23 PM | Report abuse

I've hated just about every trade the Redskins have executed for the last decade....until now. The more I think about this trade, the more I like its potential. Mcnabb is intimately familiar with all NFC East opponents (which is HUGE), and if we receive good compensation for Campbell, then this could potentially be the first smart trade (value-wise) the Redskins have made since Casserly's tenure. Now if we fail to get O-linemen, then this trade becomes yet another circus act...

Posted by: Grover_Cleveland_80 | April 4, 2010 11:24 PM | Report abuse


I still see Bradford being a Redskin in 3 weeks!

Posted by: C-DubDC | April 4, 2010 10:23 PM

I agree but now he can sit for 3 years instead of being forced to play at some point this year.

Posted by: anacostia85 | April 4, 2010 10:25 PM | Report abuse

No way we go for Bradford now. We've already spent two picks on the QB position; we're not going to burn the 3-4 additional picks it would take to move up to draft Bradford.

Posted by: rbpalmer | April 4, 2010 11:24 PM | Report abuse

Diesel...

I hear you...but we're looking at this team that was just coached by a guy that tried the "swinging gate" play twice in row.

I'm not saying we can compete for a championship, but I trust that Shanahan can maximize our talent more than Zorn.

Posted by: rickyroge | April 4, 2010 11:24 PM | Report abuse

dcwun,

I live in Philly and don't have Direct TV so I am stuck watching the Eagles every Sunday -- for the past 15 years. I have seen virtually every game McNabb has played in his career. He is rock solid and totally underappreciated. If he were on the Cowboys or Steelers or Bears or some other team of that ilk, he would be a folk hero. But he plays in the town that never liked Mike Schmidt until he was retired; the town that thinks Cole Hamels -- who more or less singlehandedly pitched them to a World Series Championship about 18 months ago, is a choker and a bum because he failed to do it again last fall. The challenge now is going to be getting some good young linemen and developing a solid running game. And I like our odds of doing that with Shanahan at the controls.

Posted by: manlius1 | April 4, 2010 11:25 PM | Report abuse

I am seriously tired of you so-called "redskins fans" that come on here and do nothing but talk $H!T about the redskins!!! Guess what... There are 31 other teams in the NFL, why dont you just change teams? All the negativity and redskin bashing is childish and rediculous! Switch teams! The REAL redskins fans are gonna stand behind the redskins through thick and thin!!!! I have seen my ups and downs (more downs than ups it seems) over the last 25 years as a redskin fan! I put my trust in shanny and jr.and bruce! I bleed burgandy and gold!!! If you dont... Maybe you should find another team... Since you are whining so much maybe you should be a patriots fan because Brady sure can whine with the best of them!!!!!! HAIL

Posted by: goskinsgo1 | April 4, 2010 11:25 PM | Report abuse

"If the Eagles still believed he could still play at a high level and posed any threat they wouldn’t have traded him to an interdivisional foe."

"If the Redskins believed he could still play at a high level and posed any threat they would've traded for him while weakening an interdivisional foe."

Two sides to every coin?

Posted by: Vicc | April 4, 2010 11:25 PM | Report abuse

Wow, just got home and heard about this. Boy was I wrong! 1. The Eagles are really dumb for doing this 2. Shanny reviewed all the tape on JC and came to the conclusion he doesn't have it. That's for all the JC supporters 3. If McNabb can stay healthy, he can give the Skins 3 good yrs atleast.

Posted by: ga8085 | April 4, 2010 11:26 PM | Report abuse

McNabb may not have beaten the Cowboys and Giants every time he played against them,

but at least those games were competitive (for the most part.)

The Cowboys also happen to have had a pretty darn good team lately, as have the Giants.

The Redskins haven't been in the conversation when it comes to who's tops in the NFC East, not even remotely, for a looooooooooong time.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 4, 2010 11:28 PM | Report abuse

Until now!

Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 4, 2010 11:29 PM | Report abuse

I think this is a great trade. In a best case scenario the #4 pick was going to be a left tackle (hopefully Okung) and everybody was Ok with the Skins using the 2 round pick on a Quarterback (i.e. McCoy, Tebow, etc.). There was no guarantee that Pick #37 would develop into a starter in the NFL, the idea was to allow the kid to hold a clip board for a while. Now the 2nd round pick has not only turned out to be a starter on the team but also a pro-bowl player. Gentlemen we now have what we’ve been searching for a proven legitimate franchise quarterback.

Posted by: flyinggoose1 | April 4, 2010 11:30 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: rickyroge | April 4, 2010 11:24 PM

Agreed… we now have a professional coaching staff that would already be in the convo as the best in the NFC and that can swing at least 3-5 games our way.

The problem is We now have only 4 picks to address 10 needs and we just made a move only a contender would make.

Posted by: Diesel44 | April 4, 2010 11:30 PM | Report abuse

It sux that Baseball season starts 2morrow.

I would've liked to hear MistaMoe's opinion.

Posted by: Vicc | April 4, 2010 11:30 PM | Report abuse

Lots of complaints about how they haven't addressed the Oline. What quality Oline was available to this point? My guess is the plan is to address oline in the draft or draft day trades. It's possible that they are just winging it but based on the expertise of Shanahan and Allen I would guess they have a plan. Remember training camp is still almost 3 months away, plenty of time to fill the gaps.

Posted by: lifelongfan | April 4, 2010 11:31 PM | Report abuse

Now that McNabb is in the team, he is going to make kelly and thomas look like Desean Jackson back in philly..jaja. Watch out for the skins in the playoffs. HAIL TO THE SKINS!!!

Posted by: b_balltim3 | April 4, 2010 11:31 PM | Report abuse

We better give him a contract extension otherwise he could be gone after one year and it cost us a 2nd rounder. reeks of the Jason Taylor trade!!!!!

Posted by: vegasskinsfan | April 4, 2010 11:32 PM | Report abuse

Heck man, when the Iggles have played at FedEx it's been practically a home field advantage for them.

They had come to expect to beat us. -- in our own house.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 4, 2010 11:32 PM | Report abuse

I would've liked to hear MistaMoe's opinion.

Posted by: Vicc | April 4, 2010 11:30 PM

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On this McNabb trade, of course.

Posted by: Vicc | April 4, 2010 11:32 PM | Report abuse

I am seriously tired of you so-called "redskins fans" that come on here and do nothing but talk $H!T about the redskins!!! Guess what... There are 31 other teams in the NFL, why dont you just change teams? All the negativity and redskin bashing is childish and rediculous! Switch teams! The REAL redskins fans are gonna stand behind the redskins through thick and thin!!!! I have seen my ups and downs (more downs than ups it seems) over the last 25 years as a redskin fan! I put my trust in shanny and jr.and bruce! I bleed burgandy and gold!!! If you dont... Maybe you should find another team... Since you are whining so much maybe you should be a patriots fan because Brady sure can whine with the best of them!!!!!! HAIL

Posted by: goskinsgo1 | April 4, 2010 11:25 PM | Report abuse


HELL YEAH!!! DITTO!

HAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: leevi98 | April 4, 2010 11:33 PM | Report abuse

It's not a JC vs. McNabb argument . McNabb would be better than JC if he was 43.

The point is we are not a 33 yr old QB away from being competitive and we just gave two high picks to a team that had zero leverage and already has a much better roster than us.

If the Eagles still believed he could still play at a high level and posed any threat they wouldn’t have traded him to an interdivisional foe.

Posted by: Diesel44 | April 4, 2010 11:20 PM
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high draft picks are less than 35 percent successful.. look at the skins picks over the last 5 years (including JC).. its less than 20 percent (hows Chad the Pizza guy working out?).

Here you get a QB that is far better than any QB you could Draft this year in the First Round.
I think a team that was in the playoffs in 07 and then just 24 months later, 4-12 W-L is really exactly that.. . a Pro-Bowl QB away from being back in the playoffs. And Shanny and "future is now Allen" are far from being done.
This was a great move for all, except JC and his oddly in-love with him, followers.
(glad I didnt commit/sell my season tix).

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 4, 2010 11:33 PM | Report abuse

great move, I was hoping the skins would pick up McNabb. Take the corporate knowledge from a team you play twice? How can this be bad. Mcnabb can help Campbell be better and give the skins an excellent backup if not a proven replacement in the starting lineup.

Posted by: mattfromsomd | April 4, 2010 11:33 PM | Report abuse

Looks like Shanny wants Albert gone. They offered Moneysworth to Eagles. The Eagles said no.

Whoa. @caplannfl told by two league sources that #Redskins offered Albert Haynesworth, but #Eagles said no [just said on TV spot].
17 minutes ago via twhirl

Posted by: TWISI | April 4, 2010 11:33 PM | Report abuse

This works... now let's go get Brandon Marshall!!

Posted by: truthbeknown | April 4, 2010 11:35 PM | Report abuse

Another viewpoint is that McNabb will have tremendous motivation to beat the Eagles twice a year and can give Haslett a gang of info on the Eagles offense. He is also a very good deep ball thrower, so I expect Moss and DT to take advantage of that. Especially Moss. Now they can take an OT in the first and draft a QB next year for Shanny to raise. But I definitely understand the reservations about this move.

Posted by: ga8085 | April 4, 2010 11:36 PM | Report abuse

How about these options

#1 Trade JC for a 2nd, trade down for another 2nd or a 3rd.

#2 Trade JC for a 2nd to draft Tebow, Trade out 1st to the Ravens for Gaither and their 2nd.

#3 Trade McNabb to the Rams so we can get Bradford.


Thoughts???

Posted by: Copious1 | April 4, 2010 11:37 PM | Report abuse

This works... now let's go get Brandon Marshall!!

Posted by: truthbeknown | April 4, 2010 11:35 PM

Stupid...

Posted by: Diesel44 | April 4, 2010 11:37 PM | Report abuse

if jc garners a 4th round pick i will be shocked and elated...

Posted by: chrislarry | April 4, 2010 11:38 PM | Report abuse

Statistically Mcnabb really isn't much of an upgrade over JC and he was playing for a much better team last year, with a significantly better offensive line and better receivers and a better running game, and also the Eagles had like the 3rd best defense or something like that.

Mcnabb threw for less yards and had a worse completion percentage than JC. He did throw for more touchdowns, but how many of them were bombs to Desean Jackson? Good luck throwing any bombs with a Skins offensive line that gives you two seconds to throw the ball and no receiver that comes close to being as good as Jackson, who other Chris Johnson was probably the most explosive player in football last year. Plus, Mcnabb faded at the end of last year, so I can't see him lasting too long getting mauled behind our offensive line, with his age and injury history.

I hope the Skins trade JC to a team that won't treat him like crap and that'll give him a legitimate chance of succeeding in the NFL and to be honest I wouldn't find it hard to believe if I find myself starting to root some for whatever team ends up getting JC.

Posted by: drumsjsp | April 4, 2010 11:39 PM | Report abuse

Shanny is saying he wants to win now.

Posted by: skinfanman | April 4, 2010 11:40 PM | Report abuse

Well I just hope what a couple of people have already wished for comes true, i.e. that we're successful at trading Campbell (and maybe 1-2 other players) for a reasonably good pick(s).

But I wouldn't mind seeing us also turn around and trade McNabb to the Raiders for a high pick(s).

Yecchh. I know McNabb is quite good, much better than JC. But I just HATE giving up that # 37.

Posted by: Oogalaboogala | April 4, 2010 11:40 PM | Report abuse

Shanny is saying he wants to win now.

Posted by: skinfanman | April 4, 2010 11:40 PM

Yet the roster is screaming that he is 3-4 years away.

Posted by: Diesel44 | April 4, 2010 11:41 PM | Report abuse

if jc garners a 4th round pick i will be shocked and elated...

Posted by: chrislarry | April 4, 2010 11:38 PM


+1

Quite honestly, I don't think we can get anything for him now.

Mr.Sarcastic says it's weird how other teams can't see how good JC17 is...I mean after all he has no O-line.

Posted by: Vicc | April 4, 2010 11:44 PM | Report abuse

well then diesel its a good thing the final roster isnt due for over 6 months with the draft, more free agency and a training camp to go...you do know that April 6th is BASEBALLS opening day right?

Posted by: chrislarry | April 4, 2010 11:45 PM | Report abuse

This works... now let's go get Brandon Marshall!!

Posted by: truthbeknown | April 4, 2010 11:35 PM

Stupid...

Posted by: Diesel44 | April 4, 2010 11:37 PM
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not for the tendered 1st round pick...that would be "stupid".

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 4, 2010 11:46 PM | Report abuse

Do some of you not understand that the offseason still has a few months left? The time to judge this move and the other signings is not now, but after the season has played out. There is still plenty of time to make other additions to the team this offseason.

There was a good chance that the Skins would have used the #4 or #37 to draft a QB, so trading #37 for a Pro bowl QB is not a bad move.

How many of us know what MS's plan is? Peeps are judging these moves without the benefit of knowing what MS is thinking and his overall big picture for this offseason.

Me, I am still giving this FO the benefit of doubt through the end of this season.

Posted by: Curzon417 | April 4, 2010 11:46 PM | Report abuse

Florio is a Skins fan...What's funny is the comment that I copied from the Eagle fan. He's right we gave up too much for a 33 yr old QB that will be rewarded with a FAT contract before the season starts based on what he did as a hated division rival.

Redskins officially welcome Donovan McNabb

Posted by Mike Florio on April 4, 2010 10:55 PM ET

Though the press conference introducing Donovan McNabb as the next quarterback of the Redskins won't occur until Monday, his new team officially welcomed him via a Sunday night press release.

"Donovan is an accomplished quarterback who has been a proven winner in the National Football League," coach Mike Shanahan said. "I have long admired his competitiveness and feel he will be an outstanding addition to the Redskins and our community. He knows our division and the roadmap to success in the NFC East. He will set a high standard of excellence and we are very excited to welcome Donovan to the Washington Redskins."

Possible translation? "We fleeced those bastards."

Yeah, this is gonna be a great year.

Chin35char says:
April 4, 2010 11:00 PM
hahahahahah @ "we fleeced those bastards". I don't know why but I am laughing my ass off right now, and I'm an Eagles fan.

Posted by: Diesel44 | April 4, 2010 11:47 PM | Report abuse

I don't know if anyone has read Wilbon's drivel but I wouldn't recommend it.

A third of the crap is about how great Donovan McNabb is for being a black quarterback.

A third of it is about how McNabb and Wilbon hope that Jason Campbell's feelings aren't hurt - after all he's also a black quarterback.

The last third is about how McNabb is a homey from Wilbon's Chicago hood, and can, therefore, do no wrong in his eyes.

Would WaPo please part ways with "Washed-Up-Wilbon"???

Posted by: p1funk | April 4, 2010 11:48 PM | Report abuse

You're asking us what we think?!?!?! I don't know what to think! I think my head exploded!

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | April 4, 2010 11:51 PM | Report abuse

Chin35char says:
April 4, 2010 11:00 PM
hahahahahah @ "we fleeced those bastards". I don't know why but I am laughing my ass off right now, and I'm an Eagles fan.

Posted by: Diesel44 | April 4, 2010 11:47 PM

Would not call an eagles fan as having an unbiased opinion on McNabb. Most of them have wanted to get rid of him since before the eagles went to the SB.

Posted by: Curzon417 | April 4, 2010 11:52 PM | Report abuse

I hope the Skins trade JC to a team that won't treat him like crap and that'll give him a legitimate chance of succeeding in the NFL and to be honest I wouldn't find it hard to believe if I find myself starting to root some for whatever team ends up getting JC.

Posted by: drumsjsp | April 4, 2010 11:39 PM
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drumsjsp..you need to go to "mancrush" therapy.


here is an old posting of how ineffective Jason is when the game is close and on the line. Or, can you remember the last game of last year..? I think it was probably the last tape Shanny watched before calling the Eagles.. It was when the skins had to get to the Chargers 40 for a game tying FG and only had 30 yards to get there and 1 minute on the clock.
JC threw 4 straight incompletes.. And the last was a hail mary that was thrown OUT OF BOUNDS ON THE FLY. No tip ball possibility.. But, it conveniently protected his QB stats since hail Marys are more often than not, intercepted.

old posting..

For all you stat-maniacs who love to tout JC's 'improvement' over the years, why not look at the major statistic: his ability to win.
Over the course of his career while behind by one TD or less, JC has racked up 14 TDs and 12 INTs. Last year, in the same situation, 7 TDs to 7 INTs.
Over the course of his career with the game difference being one TD or less (where he needs to lead a comeback or put the nail in the coffin), JC has racked up 30 TDs and 22 INTs. Last year, 12 TDs, 12 INTs.
Finally, and here's the kicker, when behind in the 4th quarter by less than 7 or tied in OT, career 10 TDs and 11 INTs. Last year, 0 TDs & 3 INTs.
These are not even including final 'drives' that end in 4 & outs (a la SD week 17) he's barely above .500 in his ability to not lose the game.
You can't blame JC for the losses? Oh really?
Now let's compare to his competition from the NFC East:
Tony Romo:
2009 Season
Behind by 1 TD: 7 TD-2 INT; Within 1 TD: 21 TD-7 INT; 4th Quarter Within 1TD: 4 TD-1 INT
Donovan McNabb
2009 Season
Behind by 1 TD: 4 TD-2 INT; Within 1 TD: 14 TD-6 INT; 4th Quarter Within 1TD: 0 TD-1 INT
Eli Manning
2009 Season
Behind by 1 TD: 7 TD-3 INT; Within 1 TD: 14 TD-7 INT; 4th Quarter Within 1TD: 3 TD-1 INT
As clearly shown here, JC is significantly behind the curve when it comes to NFC East QBs.
And just for kicks, here's the Superbowl QBs stats:
Drew Brees
2009 Season
Behind by 1 TD: 11 TD-2 INT; Within 1 TD: 25 TD-5 INT; 4th Quarter Within 1TD: 5 TD-0 INT
Peyton Manning
2009 Season
Behind by 1 TD: 9 TD-2 INT; Within 1 TD: 23 TD-9 INT; 4th Quarter Within 1TD: 6 TD-1 INT
Bottom line, when it matters, JC fails.
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Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 4, 2010 11:53 PM | Report abuse

Shanny is saying he wants to win now.

Posted by: skinfanman | April 4, 2010 11:40 PM

Yet the roster is screaming that he is 3-4 years away.

Posted by: Diesel44 | April 4, 2010 11:41 PM

I'm not so sure. I've seen too many teams make big strides in short order. And how can you say how good the Redskins' personell is until you see them play for a good coach?

Posted by: skinfanman | April 4, 2010 11:54 PM | Report abuse

Tom Coughlin wanted Donovan McNabb out of the division
Posted by Mike Florio on April 4, 2010 11:51 PM ET
In a late-night appearance on ESPN's SportsCenter, Adam Schefter dropped an interesting nugget regarding the Donovan McNabb trade.

Schefter said he bumped into Giants coach Tom Coughlin on Sunday afternoon, and Coughlin was blunt regarding his wishes when it came to the long-time Eagles quarterback.

"Coughlin's reaction was, 'Please, get him out of the division,'" Schefter said. "'We do not want to face him any more.'"

Now, they Giants still get to see McNabb twice per year.

Posted by: Curzon417 | April 4, 2010 11:54 PM | Report abuse

Mcnabb threw for less yards and had a worse completion percentage than JC. He did throw for more touchdowns, but how many of them were bombs to Desean Jackson? Good luck throwing any bombs with a Skins offensive line that gives you two seconds to throw the ball and no receiver that comes close to being as good as Jackson, who other Chris Johnson was probably the most explosive player in football last year. Plus, Mcnabb faded at the end of last year, so I can't see him lasting too long getting mauled behind our offensive line, with his age and injury history.

I hope the Skins trade JC to a team that won't treat him like crap and that'll give him a legitimate chance of succeeding in the NFL and to be honest I wouldn't find it hard to believe if I find myself starting to root some for whatever team ends up getting JC.

Posted by: drumsjsp | April 4, 2010 11:39 PM | Report abuse

Your argument sucks. How can you point out McNabb's stats by saying that alot of his TD's were bombs to DJ and he had time? I can easily refute that by saying alot of JC's TD's were when the defense had prevent in the game and he had time. Can JC be that accurate on the deep ball when given time. From what I've seen, I think not.

Posted by: ga8085 | April 4, 2010 11:54 PM | Report abuse

McNabb is 3x the qb that JC ever will be, this is an instant upgrade and allows them to find a good qb of the future while still contending now.

on a whole NFC East angle, it's so wrong that it's right. that's my take. McNabb smoked us both games last year and he's still got plenty left. maybe he'll be pissed enough now to want to prove something.

I'll crack the champagne when JC is finally traded later this year, it will be good for him to have a fresh start as the Texans' 2nd stringer. all heart and no winning does not an nfl qb make. I don't want a tough classy loser. Shanahan must not either.

but McNabb, it's still going to take time to wrap my head around that one!! LOL

Posted by: greatteamdan | April 4, 2010 11:54 PM | Report abuse

Me, I am still giving this FO the benefit of doubt through the end of this season.

Posted by: Curzon417 | April 4, 2010 11:46 PM |

I with you there. I think the in itself wasn't a bad one. The only issue I see is that is signifies an all in mentality for this season, while many on this blog would like a rebuild. However, if the team is still able to get a franchise LT and address the RT spot by training camp, the offense should be in good shape. The defense still need players on all three levels to make the transition to the 3-4 smoother, but these players don't have to be day one starters. So I guess I'm still seeing the glass half full as I hang tough with Shanallen.

Posted by: TWISI | April 4, 2010 11:57 PM | Report abuse

I hope the Skins trade JC to a team that won't treat him like crap and that'll give him a legitimate chance of succeeding in the NFL and to be honest I wouldn't find it hard to believe if I find myself starting to root some for whatever team ends up getting JC.

Posted by: drumsjsp | April 4, 2010 11:39 PM


Yeah. I stay up late at night crying for Jason Campbell. It's such a travesty that he has to make millions of dollars to play a school-yard game.

Posted by: p1funk | April 4, 2010 11:57 PM | Report abuse

I was expressing my displeasure for this abysmal move by the team. I am sorry that you got your feelings hurt and had to say something to me. Sometimes when someone keeps doing things that are not good then they have to hit rock bottom to really make a change. You will understand when little scotty is sucking c*ck for crack. So now McNabb and Scampbell can f*ck off.

Posted by: wdv1137 | April 4, 2010 10:13 PM

Oh my gosh you are so original. Where do you ever come up with that? Oh that's right, it's the same exact line I used on you about a week ago. Now tell your Momma to stop licking your ass crack and get back to washing the skidmarks out of your Superman underoos (I know that has to be hard on a woman with no arms and 1 leg) before Dad comes upstairs and catches you two again. When she's finished she can come back to my house and finish picking the dog sh!t up outta my backyard. (Again, not a pretty picture for an armless woman.)

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 4, 2010 11:59 PM | Report abuse

I can see some of the bloggers here are about to have their worlds rocked when they see what just one player--stud Qb--can do for a team.

Posted by: Vicc | April 5, 2010 12:00 AM | Report abuse

All of you who are posting up here about changing teams to root for, stop talking and start walking.

Posted by: Curzon417 | April 5, 2010 12:00 AM | Report abuse

There was a good chance that the Skins would have used the #4 or #37 to draft a QB, so trading #37 for a Pro bowl QB is not a bad move.

Posted by: Curzon417 | April 4, 2010 11:46 PM | Report abuse


McNabb's skills and durability are diminishing rapidly. Do you recall the last time he played a whole season?

He pulls up with injuries on non-contact plays. How many games do you seriously think we get out of him especially with a line that needs to be rebuilt??

This was a dumb move. We're going to give McNabb some stupid extension. We will regret it.

Posted by: p1funk | April 5, 2010 12:01 AM | Report abuse

I'm thinking CB5 has mixed feelings. No way he gets a chance to start now barring injury, but his pockets are gonna get a little straighter as DMcNabb pays for The Cinco.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | April 5, 2010 12:02 AM | Report abuse

DUMB MOVE! Once again we sacrifice the future for a washed up all-pro. We need draft picks not an addition to an aging roster.

McNabb cannot outrun the DLs that will be coming in to crush him.

New GM; new Coach - same BS.


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Posted by: oldnova | April 5, 2010 12:04 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Curzon417 | April 4, 2010 11:46 PM

I agree the final product has yet to be seen and Shanny/Allen inherited a complete mess. I have also been pleasantly surprised by the amount of restraint they have showed considering the weak and older FA pool… this gave me hope that there was a long-term plan in place and that the off-season’s of being one player away was over.

Football is a business and the Eagles could have traded him to 3-5 other teams and still had 18 days until the draft except they elected to send him to a team that plays in the same division. Translation: the Eagles believe that McNabb and the Redskins are no threat to challenge for the division title. We upgraded our QB position but at the same time helped the Eagles out by allowing them to unload McNabb in exchange for #37 this year and most likely a 3rd next year.

ADVANTAGE: EAGLES

Posted by: Diesel44 | April 5, 2010 12:05 AM | Report abuse

If Campbell and Rogers can get traded and we can recoup some picks for this year's draft and actually initiate some kind of rebuilding project, then I can live with this move.

Otherwise these moves have Vinny 2.0 written all over them.

Posted by: p1funk | April 5, 2010 12:05 AM | Report abuse

There was a good chance that the Skins would have used the #4 or #37 to draft a QB, so trading #37 for a Pro bowl QB is not a bad move.

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But he's not a pro bowl QB - he used to be... and that all-pro designation and $5 will get you an iced latte at Starbucks.


This is a HUGE mistake!

AGAIN WE SELL THE FUTURE FOR THE PRESENT!

Just how has that been working out for us?


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Posted by: oldnova | April 5, 2010 12:07 AM | Report abuse

Andy Reid stated part of the trade was based on what Donavon wanted and out of respect to a player he has known for so long he ruled out potential trades to either Oakland or buffalo. The redskins wouldn’t have made this trade if they didn’t think they could lockup D.M. for 4-5 years. D.M. should solidify the QB position in DC for at least 4 years. Hey a Pro-Bowl QB for a 2010 second round draft choice – what dumb luck.

Everybody was worried that we would trade the future for Sam Bradford and if we did get him that he would be too fragile to take a hit in the NFL. Plus he is an unproven talent, the same as Clausen.

So in the draft we go for the best player available at #4 and also look at trading down if we can come out with a potential starting left tackle and hopefully another young draft prospect. Shanahan and Allen will probably fill some other holes through trades. Hey if they can get a starting QB who is a Pro-Bowler they sure ought to be able to land a decent starting NFL Tackle through another trade. How good is JC17 looking now by QB hungry teams such as Oakland and Buffalo?

Posted by: flyinggoose1 | April 5, 2010 12:07 AM | Report abuse

if you really want to have some fun...you should read what the eagles blog has to say...

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/dneagles/Report_McNabb_dealt_to_Redskins.html?viewAll=Y&text=#comments

Posted by: dchandl3 | April 5, 2010 12:08 AM | Report abuse

Some of you need to relax with all this talk about they sacrificed the future. Ya'll are acting like a bunch of drama queens. A 2nd rounder this yr and 4th next yr (who knows what next yr holds) isn't exactly giving away the farm. When a SB coach who's worked with the likes of Steve Young and John Elway, ain't willing to stick with JC, what is that telling you?

Posted by: ga8085 | April 5, 2010 12:10 AM | Report abuse

think about what the bears gave up for cutler compared to the mcnabb deal and this looks pretty good to me. cutler's younger but still, DM is a whole lot cheaper.

ok so we are probably trying to trade multiple players to recoup draft picks. who's it gonna be? and what's their realistic value?

idk about JC 'cause he hasn't even signed his tender. maybe carlos rogers? 4th round tops. coooooooley? 3rd i think.

what's up? whatchall think?

Posted by: terrapin3 | April 5, 2010 12:10 AM | Report abuse

if this isn't a clear sign that the Eagles don't think much of McNabb and/or the Skins, I don't know what is... if they did, they certainly wouldn't have traded him within the division

Posted by: joek443 | April 5, 2010 12:11 AM | Report abuse

Football is a business and the Eagles could have traded him to 3-5 other teams and still had 18 days until the draft except they elected to send him to a team that plays in the same division. Translation: the Eagles believe that McNabb and the Redskins are no threat to challenge for the division title. We upgraded our QB position but at the same time helped the Eagles out by allowing them to unload McNabb in exchange for #37 this year and most likely a 3rd next year.

ADVANTAGE: EAGLES

Posted by: Diesel44 | April 5, 2010 12:05 AM

Not so sure about this. Looks like DM choose the Skins over the other options and the eagles agreed. See last sentence.

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Reid says McNabb didn't handpick Redskins
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on April 4, 2010 10:45 PM ET
One of the most surprising parts of Andy Reid's Easter night press conference -- other than the fact it was happening at all -- was that he stressed Donovan McNabb's happiness as a factor in Sunday's trade.

ESPN's Adam Schefter writes that McNabb "handpicked" the Redskins over the Raiders, who thought at times they were close to a deal.

Thanks to the magic of technology, I read Schefter's tweet on the subject and was able to ask Reid about it moments later.

"That's not accurate," Reid said.

While it may not have been that black and white, Reid made it clear many times McNabb approved of joining the Redskins. The inference is that he may not have been happy with another destination.

We've read some thoughts that the Eagles "disrespected" McNabb in some way. If anything, it seems like the team's respect for him partially drove this trade.

UPDATE: Schefter clarifies: McNabb handpicked Redskins from the options he had.

Posted by: Curzon417 | April 5, 2010 12:13 AM | Report abuse

Eagles are the big winners in the Donovan McNabb trade

10:29 PM CDT on Sunday, April 4, 2010

Donovan McNabb leading fans in a chorus of "Hail To the Redskins" will be as strange a sight to Eagles fans in 2010 as a purple-and-gold clad Brett Favre was to Packers fans last year.


Column by TIM COWLISHAW / The Dallas Morning News | wtcowlishaw@dallasnews.com

Tim Cowlishaw
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But Washington fans can tap the brakes on the idea of the Redskins playing in an NFC title game as Favre led Minnesota to three months ago.

The big winner Sunday night? For sure, the NFL.

When a premier player changes uniforms, it's money in the bank. Redskins-Eagles just reached a new level of interest. Even Eagles coach Andy Reid, who had nothing but praise for McNabb on Sunday night, said, "Are they a better football team with Donovan? Absolutely. We'll see how things go."

From a Cowboys standpoint, neither division rival involved in the deal gained considerable ground.

Washington remains No. 4 in the NFC's toughest division. It's a more interesting cellar team, to be sure. But you have to wonder, when you're talking about 2010 and especially beyond, exactly what Mike Shanahan is trying to build.

McNabb and Larry Johnson in the backfield? No high No. 2 pick on the way?

It sounds more like an accumulation of veterans gearing up for one final Super Bowl push. And the Redskins, while strong on defense, aren't at that level.

As for the Eagles, I don't think Cowboys fans should breathe easier. One of the reasons Dallas whipped Philadelphia in back-to-back games, 24-0 and 34-14, was the pressure the Cowboys sustained on the immobile McNabb.

While he was failing to produce big plays (6.2 yards per pass, one TD in 73 attempts), McNabb was sacked eight times. Whether it's new No. 1 Kevin Kolb who proves more mobile or the Eagles have to go to Michael Vick more often, the Eagles still have the division's scariest young weapons in receivers DeSean Jackson and Jeremy Maclin and running back LeSean McCoy.

And the Eagles do their best work at the draft, so a high No. 2 pick figures to be productive right away.

Are you ready for some football?

McNabb-to-the-Redskins deserves one big, "Oh, yeah."

Posted by: Diesel44 | April 5, 2010 12:13 AM | Report abuse

How good is JC17 looking now by QB hungry teams such as Oakland and Buffalo?

Posted by: flyinggoose1 | April 5, 2010 12:07 AM
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not as good as 2 days ago before Shanny Sr and Jr made a statement of "no confidence" in JC by trading for McNabb, based on JC's film alone, not even a preseason evaluation.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 5, 2010 12:13 AM | Report abuse

i don't have a link, i heard paolantonio say it on espnews, DM blocked trades to both OAK and BUF before the deal was done.

Posted by: terrapin3 | April 5, 2010 12:14 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Curzon417 | April 5, 2010 12:13 AM

You're smarter than this. Why would Reid trade a guy as a favor to an interdivisional opponent.

Reid says McNabb didn't handpick Redskins
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on April 4, 2010 10:45 PM ET
One of the most surprising parts of Andy Reid's Easter night press conference -- other than the fact it was happening at all -- was that he stressed Donovan McNabb's happiness as a factor in Sunday's trade.

ESPN's Adam Schefter writes that McNabb "handpicked" the Redskins over the Raiders, who thought at times they were close to a deal.

Thanks to the magic of technology, I read Schefter's tweet on the subject and was able to ask Reid about it moments later.

"That's not accurate," Reid said.

While it may not have been that black and white, Reid made it clear many times McNabb approved of joining the Redskins. The inference is that he may not have been happy with another destination.

We've read some thoughts that the Eagles "disrespected" McNabb in some way. If anything, it seems like the team's respect for him partially drove this trade.

Posted by: Diesel44 | April 5, 2010 12:19 AM | Report abuse

this is a typical Redskins move... the fact that the Eagles were willing to trade McNabb to a team within the division SHOULD have made Allen and Shanahan pause about the whole deal and ask, "are we sure we really want this guy?"

Posted by: joek443 | April 5, 2010 12:19 AM | Report abuse

I'm torn. Maybe this is good, maybe it's not.

I'll say this much: Though I hate the Eagles, McNabb is a class-act. Good guy. Better leader than anyone we've got.

Welcome, McNabb. I hope it works. I think we traded too much.

Posted by: lordtwang | April 5, 2010 12:20 AM | Report abuse

But he's not a pro bowl QB - he used to be... and that all-pro designation and $5 will get you an iced latte at Starbucks.

This is a HUGE mistake!

AGAIN WE SELL THE FUTURE FOR THE PRESENT!

Just how has that been working out for us?

Posted by: oldnova | April 5, 2010 12:07 AM
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Draft came early... Best QB available at #4 was Donovan McNabb at #37.
Its a good Deal. And skins still have their #4.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 5, 2010 12:20 AM | Report abuse

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Posted by: terrapin3 | April 5, 2010 12:21 AM | Report abuse

It seems I'm always on the other side of most fans. I hated the Jason Taylor trade when most here seemed fine with it. THAT trade was abysmal. Abysmal because it was for an injured DE who was (a) guaranteed to only stay one year; and (b) acquired in what was tantamount to a panic move.

I happen to think that this particular trade was thought out, and by different individuals than those who made the Jason Taylor trade. So...with this, I'm choosing to give Shanahan a chance on this one. Donovan McNabb is no Jason Taylor. We now have a LEADER on offense...a new face of the franchise...believe it...

I have to believe that we will re-sign him. Otherwise, this move is a circus act.

Posted by: Grover_Cleveland_80 | April 5, 2010 12:25 AM | Report abuse

The twitter pages a buzzing that both Haynesworth and Landry were offered to the Eagles who declined the offer. We're heading for a bumpy off season.

Posted by: TWISI | April 5, 2010 12:26 AM | Report abuse

Hey Dchand13!

Thanks for sharing the Eagles post...I'm laughing my a$$ off over some of the discussion going on at that web site.

Posted by: flyinggoose1 | April 5, 2010 12:40 AM | Report abuse

hey wilbon, did u swallow?

Posted by: skinsfan4eva | April 5, 2010 12:48 AM | Report abuse

Draft came early... Best QB available at #4 was Donovan McNabb at #37.
Its a good Deal. And skins still have their #4.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 5, 2010 12:20 AM | Report abuse

Your right SkinsneedaGM!

The best available quarterback in the 2010 draft is not Clausen or Bradford, but McNabb and we got our QB at pick #37. So now we can concentrate on improving our offensive line. I wonder what cards Shanahan and Allen have up their sleeves?

I also do not understand how we gave up the future? Did we give up pick #4 in the draft? nope. Did we address a position picked as need by draft experts? Yes. And of course we have holes to fill/strenthen. Just be glad it wasn't Vinny running the ship or it would have been at least the #4 pick plus a low round pick next year.

Posted by: flyinggoose1 | April 5, 2010 1:00 AM | Report abuse

San Fran might want to trade up to get Clausen. Maybe give then our 4th for their 2 first rounders??? Or is that Madden? Think we can get a 3rd for JC?

Posted by: DCTT | April 5, 2010 1:01 AM | Report abuse

The logic that some the haters use is totally idiotic.

They claim the value for Campbell in a trade went down because the Redskins "showed no confidence" in him by getting McNabb. By the same analogy, the Eagles would have brought down the value of McNabb by willing to trade him!!!

Anytime a player is traded, the team is willing to part with him. You don't have to be an idiotic Redskin-hater to know that.

Campbell will get a trade in value based on his own attributes and performance, not based on the love that Shanahan has for him.

Posted by: Peaceful2009 | April 5, 2010 1:18 AM | Report abuse

Wow!! I can't believe alot of my fellow skins fans are hatin this. We gave 2 draft picks yes, but folks this is gonna be the best qb the skins have had under center in decades!!! This man is an elite franchise qb who won countless games for Philly, when was the last time you remember a skins qb winning a game?? Brunell against Dallas??!! really folks???!!! they traded away their franchise and we got lucky scoopin him up. All of you should be on your knees thankin the eagles front office, who will all find out what they lost the hard way...... when they start losing and the Skins start winning! for you hatin Skins fans I'll let ya slide. after all when you start defending and making excuses for JCAM'S performance it really has been a while since you've seen a real NFL qb in action.

Posted by: skins91r | April 5, 2010 3:28 AM | Report abuse

I'm not sure why McNabb needs to get in touch w/ Jason on this. If Campbell's p***ed off, what's Donovan gonna do, ask that the trade be revoked? What a pile of cra*

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Posted by: xiciaoscis1 | April 5, 2010 9:52 AM | Report abuse

I like McNabb a lot and I have nothing but respect and admiration for him but a 33 year old injury prone qb. This is what we want. WE bring in two running backs and and aging qb who misses 3 to 4 games a year because of injury.
McNabb better get use to using his legs again playing behind this o-line. Once again we're making moves at core positions and not addressing the offensive line. Our offensive line hasn't been good since we lost Tre Johnson. Hail to the Deadskins. I'm trying to be patient but Deja Vu all over again. Draft day could be a make or break day for me. I may have to abandon my Redskins and be a fan of players. We gave away draft picks again. How about we bring in rookies to get excited about their potential for years to come. This 2-3 year free agent thing is for the birds man. We(Redskins nation) has been here and done that. I'm going to say it now. "The Washington Redskins sign Terrel Owens to a 1 year deal". Boo Boo Boooooooooooo!!!

JC17 is probably gone so our backup is Rex Grossman. Lawd have mercy, what are we doing?

For all of u JC17 haters out there, I hope we don't get not one o-lineman and let's see how fast all of you turn on McNabb and talk about how washed up he is. Doouble negative intended. He's 33 now and still good but he's not mobile like he used to be.

I would have really liked to see what JC17 could have done with an o-line, Willie Parker, Clinton Portis, and Larry Johnson in the backfield. Those young receivers would be wide open. I guess we'll never know.
I sure hope we do it big because you people are going to eat McNabb up if we don't win. All the battle testedness and pro bowlness, proven quarterbackness goes right out the window with you people. The word in the previous sentence may not be real words but I don't care. If this happens,talk to Gil, Donovan about your beloved fans in this area. You think Philly was bad. They'll turn on you in a second and forget about all of your positive accomplishments.

I guess we've all forgtotten 6-2 JC17 first half of the season MVP. Clinton Portis on pace to reach 2000 yards. Santana Moss top three receivers yard wise. Here comes the storm. Samuels goes down. It was either Jansen or Thomas who went down. CLinton Portis gets hurt because he starts to take more of a beating. 2-6 for the second half of the season.

Oh yeah, this is a business and its about what have you done for me lately. How soon we forget in this society. I wonder how many of u could do your job well if you're not giving the most important tool or tools that yo need to do your job. Oh I forgot all of your are perfect human beings who have played professional sports.

Posted by: JWADE4 | April 5, 2010 10:22 AM | Report abuse

the very one reason I like the deal is that we are all imagining mcnabb in the eagles offense. he was considered top flight in an offense that hardly ever play-action because of lack of or commitment to the running game. Mcnabb will now be able to use/add play-action to his game because everyone of Shanny's teams will run the ball. He will be used to roll out, he will be handing off 40 times a game instead of throwing 50 times a game, every game. McNabb is polished enough to run shanny's offense and it is obvious to me that he thought JC wasn't thru off-season practices and film. I think these two things happen. We trade JC for the highest bidder. The raiders and bills make the most sense to me. if we can recapture a third, i would be happy. With Brady getting banged up alot now and the pats have numerous extra pics, i say is a darkhorse to trade for campbell. The second thing i defenitly see is us trading down/out of the fourth spot and adding lost pics in this trade and the Jason Taylor fiasco. We can still get a starting tackle in first round and have other pics for depth. I believe that is one reason we haven't re-signed Levi. He prob wants starters money so price is still out of range. Also, skins FO might be waiting to see how they trade down to see who they get and then who they need. Heyer is a back-up at best so we need two tackles... Need to find another running back and shanny has a track record with those guys in the middle rounds. If this trade was made by the last front office regime, i would be throwing up now. i give these guys the benefit of the doubt and want it too succeed.....

Posted by: klangley69 | April 5, 2010 11:49 AM | Report abuse

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