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Donovan McNabb (finally) not part of Philly QB furor

For the first time in a long time, quarterback Donovan McNabb is not the center of controversy with the Philadelphia Eagles - and he hopes things stay that way.

McNabb skillfully, and repeatedly, sidestepped questions Wednesday about the Eagles' surprising quarterback controversy. Philadelphia Coach Andy Reid changed his mind Tuesday after initially insisting that Kevin Kolb was his guy, naming Michael Vick as the team's starter.

"My focus really has been over here," McNabb said before practice at Redskins Park. "Really, everything that's going on over there is really none of my concern. Anything I may say at this point really doesn't matter. They made a decision and that's what they're going with. We just have to focus on what we need to do here to get ourselves to 2-1."

Vick is coming off consecutive strong performances in relief of Kolb, who suffered a concussion in a Week 1 loss to the Green Bay Packers. Reid decided it was best to stick with the three-time Pro Bowler. Ironically, the Eagles traded McNabb - their franchise quarterback for 11 seasons - to the Redskins last spring, in large part because Reid believed Kolb was ready to become a starter.

McNabb said he has not spoken with Vick recently but "we text. But that's about it."

"Well, that's Philadelphia," McNabb said of the furor over who should start. "Things like that happen. I've been a part of that for 11 years. Obviously, as you said, it just doesn't stop."

Last week McNabb passed for 426 yards - his third career 400-yard game - and had a 119.0 passer rating. On Oct. 3, McNabb returns to Philadelphia for the first time since the trade as the Eagles host the Redskins at Lincoln Financial Field. Until then, don't bother him about his former team

"You know what, I'm truly focused on St. Louis," the team the Redskins play Sunday, McNabb said. "At this particular point, I could care less about next week. Obviously, that will change next week. My focus right now is just on St. Louis."

By Jason Reid  | September 22, 2010; 12:31 PM ET
Categories:  Donovan McNabb  
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Comments

Regarding the VJ discussion:

I side with caution. They (reportedly) want waaaay too much for a guy that is a B/B+ receiver. We gave up that much for McNabb, for goodness sakes. Not to mention the contract he wants.

The Redskins just showed, granted against a poor pass D, that they have the scheme and players to light it up when they get rolling. There isn't any real need to give up the farm for VJ.

If they lower the price, or lower it significantly and want to take AH, then that is something to look at...otherwise, I'd get out of the way of this All-in hand.

Posted by: shaunsherman12 | September 22, 2010 12:38 PM | Report abuse

"There isn't any real need to give up the farm for VJ."

100% agree.

Especially if you can get him in the offseason and still have your picks.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | September 22, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

"The San Diego Chargers have been offered a second-round pick and a conditional pick in 2011 by the Minnesota Vikings for wide receiver Vincent Jackson, three sources said Tuesday, but that deal looks dead because the Chargers have asked for a second- and third-round pick for 2011. The Vikings, who are willing to sign Jackson to a one-year deal worth approximately $6 million, would throw in the conditional pick for the Pro Bowl receiver if they signed him to a long-term contract. Jackson would replace wide receiver Sidney Rice, who will miss at least the first half of the season after hip surgery in training camp. The Chargers are asking for the second- and third-rounders based on the price"

http://www.prosportsdaily.com/nfl/chargers/rumors.html

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | September 22, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

I would love it if VJax pulled the free agent taking minimum money in the first year of his deal so that the Chargers get no compensatory picks. That would be the ultimate Eff You to AJ Smith.

Posted by: psps23 | September 22, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

I have intercepted Donnie's last two texts to Vick --

LOL

LMAO

Posted by: PlayAction | September 22, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

for those who wonder if giving up a 2nd round pick is good value for VJax, I present the following:

Redskins 2nd round picks, going back to 1980 (not just the Vinny years):

DT11, MK12, Fred Davis, Rocky MacIntosh, Taylor Jacobs, LaDell Betts, Fred Smoot, Jon Jansen, Stephen Alexander, Greg Jones, Cory Raymer, Tre Johnson, Reggie Brooks, Shane Collins, Andre Colline, Chip Lohmiller, Brian Davis, Wally Kleine, Marcus Koch, Walter Murray, Tory Nixon, Bob Slater, Steve Hamilton, Richard Williams, Vernon Dean, Matt Mendenhall.

I don't see ANYBODY on this list that is better than Vincent Jackson.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | September 22, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

I would love it if VJax pulled the free agent taking minimum money in the first year of his deal so that the Chargers get no compensatory picks. That would be the ultimate Eff You to AJ Smith.

Posted by: psps23

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It would be, but I doubt that happens because there is just too much risk for a player (getting hurt, etc.) to waste a year of getting paid in the prime of his career just to stick it to a former employer.

Posted by: manlius1 | September 22, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Devin Thomas is def is some package deal to get Vincent JAckson. All this new guy knows is STs and KO Returning.....We got enough STers.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | September 22, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Anthony Armstrong not practicing. He's got to be the special teamer who's injured. Maybe means DT11 gets some run at WR this week, so they needed the new dude for KR duties?

Nah, forget that...I like conspiracy theories much better!

Posted by: 4-12 | September 22, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

I don't see ANYBODY on this list that is better than Vincent Jackson.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | September 22, 2010 12:54 PM

You forgot Donovan McNabb. He's way better and not a headcase or half-year signing. Jackson is gone after this season to the highest bidder...no reason to trade for him unless a deal is done beforehand.

Posted by: Section104 | September 22, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

I don't see ANYBODY on this list that is better than Vincent Jackson.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | September 22, 2010 12:54 PM

No, but on the same level - Jon JAnsen, Stephan Alexander, Chip Loemiller, Smoooot, Sleepy, Raymer (6/7 yr starter), Johnson had the potential.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | September 22, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Redskins 2nd round picks, going back to 1980 (not just the Vinny years):

DT11, MK12, Fred Davis, Rocky MacIntosh, Taylor Jacobs, LaDell Betts, Fred Smoot, Jon Jansen, Stephen Alexander, Greg Jones, Cory Raymer, Tre Johnson, Reggie Brooks, Shane Collins, Andre Colline, Chip Lohmiller, Brian Davis, Wally Kleine, Marcus Koch, Walter Murray, Tory Nixon, Bob Slater, Steve Hamilton, Richard Williams, Vernon Dean, Matt Mendenhall.

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This list makes a great point -- draft picks, even high ones, are nice and important to building a good team, but they are far from a sure thing. Just look at the first, second and third rounders from recent years that were cut this year before the season by the teams that drafted them. A good, proven NFL player can be better than a pick, which merely represnts the possibility of a good, proven NFL player. That is the consideration that has to be made when thinking about trading a pick (or picks) for a player.

Posted by: manlius1 | September 22, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

How would u guys feel about a 5 or 6 this yr, then NEXT yr a 2nd or 3rd and the JC pic

Yes 3 picks. But strategic picks.

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | September 22, 2010 1:04 PM | Report abuse

If Vincent Jackson can play LG, RG, or RT then get him. We apparently failed to properly fill those positions in the off season.....again, without Cerrato.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | September 22, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

No, but on the same level - Jon JAnsen, Stephan Alexander, Chip Loemiller, Smoooot, Sleepy, Raymer (6/7 yr starter), Johnson had the potential.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | September 22, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse

And Rocky.

Pro-bowl sleeper this year is Rocky Mac.

VJax isn't all that. Again, his agent must be the man because he's successfully marketed VJ into being arguably the most overrated receiver in the league right now. This dude could very easily be Roy Williams 2.0. Hell, Roy Williams outperformed VJax before moving onto Dallas.

Posted by: psps23 | September 22, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

For me, the big worry about VJ is what happens if he gets another DUI? A six game suspension? Eight games? Twelve?

Posted by: JohnnyRyde | September 22, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

BREAKIN NEWZ:

Heyer in as LT for the next game.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | September 22, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

On the move for Chad Siompson, I know nothing about the guy except what is up here about his kick returns and rushing stats. But, I'm going out on a limb.

I like it, maybe I'll like it a lot. If he's returning kicks, he's probably fast. And we need fast in our RBs.

Shanahan's scheme is based on a bunch of things, but one of the keys is to have an RB thta can turn the corner.

Why?

Because if you can turn the corner, its usually good gains and sometimes huge gains. Defenses place a premium on preventing RBs from getting outside and turning the corner.

But the Skins didn't have a 'turn the corner' threat. So defenses didn't have to spread their guys out to prevent that big run. But Shanahan's run game is based on getting DL and LBs spread out -- because when they are spread out, they don't spread out evenly, leaving a gap to run through somewhere along that line. A cutback through that gap is where Shanny's RBs have thrived.

No speed means no threat to turn the corner, which means no gaps to make that cutback. Speed creates the threat which creates the gaps.

Now the RB needs to have great 'read' instincts, be able to cut sharply and plow thru arm tackles in order to be most effective. Don't know if Simpson has any of that. But I think he has one critical element that's been missing.

Hopefully, he's what the doctor ordered.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | September 22, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

that list is a big support for trading picks to get proven guys

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | September 22, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

for those who wonder if giving up a 2nd round pick is good value for VJax, I present the following:

Redskins 2nd round picks, going back to 1980 (not just the Vinny years):

DT11, MK12, Fred Davis, Rocky MacIntosh, Taylor Jacobs, LaDell Betts, Fred Smoot, Jon Jansen, Stephen Alexander, Greg Jones, Cory Raymer, Tre Johnson, Reggie Brooks, Shane Collins, Andre Colline, Chip Lohmiller, Brian Davis, Wally Kleine, Marcus Koch, Walter Murray, Tory Nixon, Bob Slater, Steve Hamilton, Richard Williams, Vernon Dean, Matt Mendenhall.

I don't see ANYBODY on this list that is better than Vincent Jackson.

Posted by: zcezcest1

This is about as hollow as it gets. C'mon man, you're putting up the guys who haven't lived up to second round draft selection against the almighty Vince Jackson?

What does that prove? Okay, so using this argument I could list a bunch of guys who were taken AFTER the 3rd round and who are BETTER than Jackson and use this to make my case for NOT giving up a 2nd rounder.

So what, what would that prove?

Posted by: RedDMV | September 22, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

My sources tell me that VJax has been secretly working out and practicing with the Redskins for nearly three weeks.

Posted by: PlayAction | September 22, 2010 1:10 PM | Report abuse

With this Simpson guy coming is as RB, does this then free up Clinton Portis to play LT? At least he can block.

Posted by: JohnnyRyde | September 22, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

I know Vick is in a contract year. Any way the Skins make a run at him next year?

I'd love to 'job' the Iggles 2 years in a row. At least no draft picks would be given up for Vick and we could trade McNabb back to Philly for our 2nd and 3rd.

I'm not sayin'......I'm just sayin'.

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | September 22, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

4th, thanks for the update...who are the Rams DE's???

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 22, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse

On the move for Chad Siompson, I know nothing about the guy except what is up here about his kick returns and rushing stats. But, I'm going out on a limb.

I like it, maybe I'll like it a lot. If he's returning kicks, he's probably fast. And we need fast in our RBs.


Posted by: zcezcest1 | September 22, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

He's about as fast as Rock was.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | September 22, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

BREAKIN NEWZ:

Heyer in as LT for the next game.....

Posted by: 4thFloor


Are you gonna sacrifice 6 goats for this blessing bestowed upon you? Probably was doing cartwheels with a cheese smile when you caught wind of it.

Posted by: RedDMV | September 22, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Who knows...The team sucks...

Posted by: 4thFloor | September 22, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

"Redskins 2nd round picks, going back to 1980 (not just the Vinny years):

I don't see ANYBODY on this list that is better than Vincent Jackson.

Posted by: zcezcest1"

Even if that were the case (which IMO it's not) we also haven't drafted a 2nd rounder better than AH since 1980. Doesn't make AH more valuable than a 2nd round pick to the Redskins.

Posted by: psps23 | September 22, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

"...who are the Rams DE's?"


Didn't they draft UVA's C Long to pair with A Carriker some time ago?

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 22, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

beeps

Posted by: RedDMV | September 22, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Probably was doing cartwheels with a cheese smile when you caught wind of it.

Posted by: RedDMV | September 22, 2010 1:20 PM

Dayum...You got the playbook on me....I was wondering who stole it....

I'm jst doing what all the reporters do....Hear breaking Newz from someone and do cartwheels with a cheese smile to twitter/FB/RI/PFT to tell their followers....

Posted by: 4thFloor | September 22, 2010 1:26 PM | Report abuse

not trying to be dumb or annoying just what your thoughts..... any chance skikns get jackson tonight espn says by tonight he might get traded and Rice comes back week 8 so i doubt the vikings. thoughts???

Posted by: patljr7 | September 22, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

not trying to be dumb or annoying just what your thoughts..... any chance skikns get jackson tonight espn says by tonight he might get traded and Rice comes back week 8 so i doubt the vikings. thoughts???

Posted by: patljr7 | September 22, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

not trying to be dumb or annoying just what your thoughts..... any chance skikns get jackson tonight espn says by tonight he might get traded and Rice comes back week 8 so i doubt the vikings. thoughts???

Posted by: patljr7 | September 22, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

sorry for the 3 posts computer messed up

Posted by: patljr7 | September 22, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Ok folks, it's time for my upset special:
Skins 17
Rams 16

Posted by: josettes | September 23, 2010 1:11 AM | Report abuse

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