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Donovan McNabb makes heroic return to Chicago in ESPN episode

Here's a fun ESPN story that's worth passing along.

The Redskins concluded their first set of organized team activities Wednesday, and players mostly scattered their separate ways, knowing they don't have to return to Redskins Park until next Monday. Quarterback Donovan McNabb's day-after-OTA plan was a bit different than his teammates: He went back to school.

McNabb is the subject of a future episode of "Homecoming with Rick Reilly," and he returned to Mt. Carmel High, his alma mater in Chicago, for a visit Thursday.

It sounds like it should be an interesting episode. Redskins owner Daniel Snyder and Coach Mike Shanahan both participated, appearing via satellite, as did Eagles Coach Andy Reid.

And McNabb's new teammate, tight end Chris Cooley, actually flew out to Chicago and visited Mt. Carmel with McNabb.

And if that wasn't enough, Mayor Richard Daley issued a proclamation, declaring Thursday to be Donovan McNabb Day in Chicago.

The episode won't air until later, but the ESPNChicago.com story provides a sneak-peek of sorts:

Inside the gym, McNabb shared on- and off-camera advice with the players and ran a few basketball drills. McNabb, who also starred on Mount Carmel's basketball team, was rusty in the beginning and missed his first few jumpers, but he did redeem himself as time passed.

After elevating slightly above the rim for one layup, McNabb was asked by Reilly whether he could still dunk. McNabb said he could. Reilly followed with, "Will you be dunking today?" McNabb laughed and said, "No."

Mount Carmel junior guard Tracy Abrams, who is committed to Illinois, didn't pick up any basketball pointers as he was confident he could take McNabb one-on-one, but he did find something else to take away.

"He talked about setting goals not for yourself, but for your team," Abrams said. "That's something I'm trying to focus on as a player right now going into my senior year."

By Rick Maese  |  May 22, 2010; 8:01 AM ET
Categories:  Donovan McNabb  
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Comments

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Posted by: Jason10 | May 22, 2010 8:16 AM | Report abuse

AND THE POINT OF THIS POST WASSSSSS????????????

Posted by: bsilvanus | May 22, 2010 8:29 AM | Report abuse

MistaMoe. No team that is in contention for a Super Bowl is going to trade their #1 receiver for AH. Especially not a guy that is considered one of the best young receivers. For starters the Redskins have little leverage as most teams realize that the Redskins almost have to trade him. The best that can be hoped for would be draft picks and a role player. Maybe Foyd and a draft pick. The other challenge is that AH is known across the league as having an attitude and being lazy. He has done nothing to change that this off season.

Posted by: srobert1117 | May 22, 2010 7:37 AM | Report abuse

srobert, I disagree that the Skins have to trade AH. Yes, he has an attitude, and appears to be lazy. On this last thought, tho, I reserve judgment until we see him in camp next month. He was a beast on the field last year. He enabled AC to get a 11 sacks, and BOrak also benefitted. He enabled the Skins to lead the lead in stops on 3rd or 4th and short. He played the second most snaps on the D line. So we don't have to trade him. He is a force in the middle of the line, and there are several teams that could really use him, so there may be some interest. I'm hoping that he stays in DC.

Posted by: frediefritz | May 22, 2010 9:19 AM | Report abuse

Was that post written by the Department of Redundancy Department??

Posted by: wireman65 | May 22, 2010 9:33 AM | Report abuse

Was that post written by the Department of Redundancy Department??

Posted by: wireman65 | May 22, 2010 9:33 AM | Report abuse

Hey wireman65,
Apparently so
Apparently so

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | May 22, 2010 9:55 AM | Report abuse

Was that post written by the Department of Redundancy Department??

Posted by: wireman65

redundant

Posted by: jcnjcnj | May 22, 2010 10:05 AM | Report abuse

He was a beast on the field last year. He enabled AC to get a 11 sacks, and BOrak also benefitted. He enabled the Skins to lead the lead in stops on 3rd or 4th and short. He played the second most snaps on the D line.

Posted by: frediefritz | May 22, 2010 9:19 AM |

And ... the team finished 4-12. They did so good on D that the new HC wants to go 3-4, with their best D guy not cut out for 3-4. If AH hadn't unleashed such a loud, smelly fart the FO might have been able to arrange a decent trade and both parties would be relatively happy now. Instead, anomie and dyspesia abound.

Posted by: TheAnimalFarm | May 22, 2010 10:24 AM | Report abuse

More cut-n-paste proof. Ever hear of proof reading prior to submitting?

Posted by: DC2AZ99 | May 22, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

"No team that is in contention for a Super Bowl is going to trade their #1 receiver for AH."


The general theme, again, is that perhaps some kind of 'straight up' trade of AH for a solid, proven NFL receiver should be contemplated in light of the redskins moves to improve the offense.

The skins moved to add McNabb, drafted Williams, brought in Hicks to start at rt, then suddenly realize that behind S Moss is a rookie (Austin), a 17 year vet, and two dudes (MK-DT) who've done nothing but tease.

And Moss himself might miss who knows what amount of time behind using HGH.

Think of starting the season with Galloway, Kelly, and Thomas as our starting receivers, and you'll see what I mean.

The skins remain a team with a fine defense supporting an offense that doesn't pass the ball that well in the most likely scenario.

It's deja vu--Zorn all over again.

We posted during the Marko Mitchell Saga that perhaps the episode of his release signalled some deeper issue with the redskins' receivers, and folks howled in laughter....

....until Joey Galloway and Bobby Wade crossed our doorstep.

Somebody shouted, "There's Plaxico..." but that's a T.O. media circus without the tent for a player who'll need to time to regain his game.

No matter what the move is, some solid vet type--like TJ Housemanshaneh or Chris Chambers or L Coles--might even be a better, non-trade AH fill-in for the skins' passing game until things are clear about Moss.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 22, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

There's a glitch in the Matrix....

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 22, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Whatever happened to Walt from Lost? I watched the show for the first few seasons until it jumped the shark with time travel and other ridiculous contrivances. But at the end of the first season Walt's kidnapping was one of the big cliffhangers. And then his father turned rat and the last we saw, he and Walt were headed off the island and then nothing. There was a lot of that in Lost - big plot build-ups and then nary hide nor hair more as the storyline moved on to find something else to stir the pot with.

Posted by: TheAnimalFarm | May 22, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Hey wireman65,
Apparently so
Apparently so

Posted by: RedskinRay1

That is repetition, not redundancy. Please make a note of it

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | May 22, 2010 10:43 AM | Report abuse

Absolut, cosign, Moe..Guerre-on-tee that Shanny makes some kinda play for a semi-decent ball catcha in the next few weeks..

Now Favre can get the good sh*t, whenever he gets that ankle surgery, his teams go 13-3 afta..And you gotta wonda how many players stab themselves with a bayonet just to get the sweets, know what I'm sayin'??..

Posted by: frak | May 22, 2010 10:44 AM | Report abuse

Give the Sharks credit - they may have started off the playoffs looking like they had turned over a new leaf but they have reverted to form. It looks like they are going to go out with a goose egg against the Blackhawks in the conference finals with their big guns, Heatley and Thornton, as silent as lambs.

Posted by: TheAnimalFarm | May 22, 2010 10:47 AM | Report abuse

And Moss himself might miss who knows what amount of time behind using HGH.

----------------

4 games....Can play preseaon and practice until the start of the season...Moss will be called to see the Commish before the season starts....

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 22, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse

That is repetition, not redundancy. Please make a note of it

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | May 22, 2010 10:43 AM |

It is also idiocy.

Posted by: TheAnimalFarm | May 22, 2010 10:50 AM | Report abuse

If any of our more stats minded fans could roll out a list of potential receivers Skins could get, that would be cool..

Posted by: frak | May 22, 2010 10:51 AM | Report abuse

When the other 364 days in Chicago are Jay Cutler Day, it's worth mentioning twice.

Posted by: SMACK1 | May 22, 2010 10:52 AM | Report abuse

The skins remain a team with a fine defense ...

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 22, 2010 10:28 AM |

And I remain a poster with a fine sense of humor who was not amused by that remark. Surely you have something better than that in your Catskill bag of tricks.

Posted by: TheAnimalFarm | May 22, 2010 10:55 AM | Report abuse

If any of our more stats minded fans could roll out a list of potential receivers Skins could get, that would be cool..

Posted by: frak | May 22, 2010 10:51 AM |

F the stats, here is a list of the best receivers available that the Skins can get:

1. Denon
2. Sony
3. Onkyo
4. Marantz
5. Yamaha

Posted by: TheAnimalFarm | May 22, 2010 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Animal-
Me prefer Bose..

Posted by: frak | May 22, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse

AnimalFarm-

Where would Bose be on list of receivers? I know where it would be in relation to price.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 22, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse

They need MORE receivers?!?!

Is that how they plan to get around that O Line deficiency? Just have everyone go out for a pass?

They literally have more receivers than you can shake a stick at. Go ahead. Try it. Can't be done.

Posted by: Thinker_ | May 22, 2010 11:46 AM | Report abuse

OK, fine.

Who's available?

Any crafty vets out there?

Any with Super Bowl experience, perhaps?

Any out there with a penchant for big plays?

Any elite Wide Outs just laying around out there?

Who want to play 4 games?

I don't think even TO would go for it.

Unless...

Posted by: Thinker_ | May 22, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Whats wrong with keeping AH for the duration of his contract (3-4 more years) and if he doesnt conform to the ShanAllen approach have him sit on the bench.

That would be the worse scenerio for AH if he had goals of being selected to future pro bowls and wants to be recognized as the best at his position. AH is in his prime right now and I'm sure he does not want to waste away 3-4 potentially good years of his career. What better message can the Skins send that if you don't conform and become a team player/leader then you will be sitting on the bench during your peak potential playing years.

Posted by: flyinggoose1 | May 22, 2010 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Fagedaboudit.

Anybody else already addicted to the Google Pac Man game?

I mean, there's a reason I have no gaming console. It's like crack for me. I get immediately addicted. And this particular one has been growing dormantly for 30 years.

About the time I chewed the joystick off of my Atari 2600 due to the same frustrations.

HOW CAN MY PAC MAN GO THROUGH THE GHOSTS!!!???

WHEN I PRESS DOWN, WHY DOES IT IGNORE ME???!!!

WHY DOES THE FRUIT DISAPPEAR SO GDANG FAST???!!!

AND I HATE WHEN THE GHOSTS YOUR CHASING "HIDE" BEHIND THE NEW DEADLY GHOSTS WHO ENTER BACK INTO THE 'FIELD OF PLAY' - I HATE THAT!!!

So, anyway, I have no clue what I was gonna search for yesterday, but forget it now, I've got bigger fish to fry!

PacMan Addiction!!!

Posted by: Thinker_ | May 22, 2010 11:56 AM | Report abuse

srobert, I disagree that the Skins have to trade AH. Yes, he has an attitude, and appears to be lazy. On this last thought, tho, I reserve judgment until we see him in camp next month. He was a beast on the field last year. He enabled AC to get a 11 sacks, and BOrak also benefitted. He enabled the Skins to lead the lead in stops on 3rd or 4th and short. He played the second most snaps on the D line. So we don't have to trade him. He is a force in the middle of the line, and there are several teams that could really use him, so there may be some interest. I'm hoping that he stays in DC.

Posted by: frediefritz | May 22, 2010 9:19 AM | Report abuse

I agree with frediefritz that you dont want to trade AH for the above listed reasons. If AH is delegated to the bench until he comes around as a team mate, that will send a strong message to both AH and the rest of the team. To be an extremely talented player and not be able to play will force AH to make a decision on which path he wants to take....does he want to be a football player and contribute to his team and his own career statistics or does he want to be a non football player and deduct games that will impact his own personnal statistics.

ShanAllen has allot of power over AH and over AH's legasy as a dominate defensive tackle in the NFL.

Posted by: flyinggoose1 | May 22, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

A cursory glance at the NFL receivers list is necessary:

http://www.nfl.com/players/search?filter=widereceiver&conferenceAbbr=null&playerType=current&category=position&conference=ALL&d-447263-p=1

One immediately notices NE, SD, HOU, NO and MINN are stacked at the position, maybe we can pry one from them..

Those which struck as interesting are:

Chris Chambers
Coles (UFA)
Patrick Crayton
Malcolm Floyd (RFA)
Vincent Jackson (RFA)
Jacoby Jones
James Jones
Mahammed Massaquoi
Muhsin Muhammed (UFA)
Mike Sims-Walker

And if either Reggie Wayne or Andre Johnson choose to holdout, a def play should be made for either..

HGH, like everything else, has gotta be addictive, if you're injured and need it, its gotta be like pain pills or certain computer games (Call Of Duty for me), you just gotta have it..

Posted by: frak | May 22, 2010 12:18 PM | Report abuse

I don't but into all this AH unhappiness stuff. Think how this works out. DT takes 2 blockers so LBs can swarm, but with AH we can get tricky and occasionally send the LBs to take the blockers so AH can get in and mess someone up. And on some 3rd and 4 we slide OLB AC down to end making our 3-4 a 4-3 pre snap and sometimes vice versa creating much confusion enabling AH, AC, and RokPo to control the trenches. And I havent't even gotten to how the effect caries on to others like Carriker, Hall, etc. Gotta keep AH, he's a beast and when the beast is not in battle, the beast must rest. Once camp gets going and then the season starts with the first pummeling of Dallas, all will be well in Redskinland.

Posted by: dg_photofl | May 22, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

As for receivers, keep your eyes and ears open for Shay Hodge out of Ole Miss. We just signed him out of the second mini-camp. Just about every scouting report had him being drafted anywhere from 4th to 7th round, but it didn't happen. Also had a very good senior bowl. Not flashy or fast (4.59), but seems to have a knack for getting the job done and just might be our diamond in the rough. Kinda' under the radar, and I like that...just sayin'...

Posted by: wagman1 | May 22, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

They need MORE receivers?!?!

Is that how they plan to get around that O Line deficiency? Just have everyone go out for a pass?

They literally have more receivers than you can shake a stick at. Go ahead. Try it. Can't be done.

Posted by: Stinker_ | May 22, 2010 11:46 AM


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Actually that is precisely what the Packers did.

At first they were keeping extra blockers in the formation limiting Rodgers options and opposing teams continued to sack him.

Then they sent 4 and 5 receivers out on the route a la Spurrier. With more options to throw to, the Packers strategy was for Rodgers to throw the ball on no later than his 5th step or take off running.

The Packers made the playoffs and Rodgers had a terrific season, despite being sacked a bajillion times.

Watch football much Stinker_?

Posted by: Vicc | May 22, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Or maybe we'll just wing it with DT/MK..Thinker's got a point , O-Line Or Bust..Be nice to have a no.1 receiver, though..DT could possibly breakout, who knows..arrgh..

Posted by: frak | May 22, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Rodgers days are numbered if he goes through another season like that last one..The Pack are lucky he's still standing..

Posted by: frak | May 22, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Rodgers days are numbered if he goes through another season like that last one..The Pack are lucky he's still standing..

Posted by: frak | May 22, 2010 12:31 PM

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Perhaps. But most of Rodgers sacks occurred prior to the Pack deploying multiple receiving options. Opposing teams blitzed fewer times because of Rodgers knack for throwing the ball quickly.

Rodgers success has led me to believe that he watches a ton of video and studies opposing defenses.

Kurt Warner was a master at recognizing pressure and throwing the ball against the blitz. The blitzing side always leaves a void in coverage.

Posted by: Vicc | May 22, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

At least we have a QB that can get rid of the ball quickly now too, as opposed to holding on to it until the cows came home...

Posted by: wagman1 | May 22, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

People who get their panties bunched over a post like this in MAY are supreme losers. Is it some fluff, sure, but its positive fluf about a good guy athlete giving back a little. So calm the fukk down already. Some of you people loved to be all pisssed off over the most ridiculous crappe.

Posted by: chrislarry | May 22, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse

moo, when you swing through Oregon give us a holler...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | May 22, 2010 12:11 AM

thanks nate, will be mid-August, although things might be kind of tight between family beach week and side trip to Mt. St. Helens (five year-old is *way* into volcanoes).

will save the contact info, we make it to Portland to visit friends a few times each year... would be cool if it happened over a football weekend this fall.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 22, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

"Perhaps. But most of Rodgers sacks occurred prior to the Pack deploying multiple receiving options. Opposing teams blitzed fewer times because of Rodgers knack for throwing the ball quickly."

The few games I've watched, particularly in the playoffs, looked like he held the ball til the last possible moment, waiting for someone to come open. He gets away with it because he's so mobile outside the pocket. But a lot of those completions against the Cards were because of amazing efforts by his receivers. I counted four or five that should have been batted down or intercepted. I can't recall the last time I saw an NFL QB gamble like that in a playoff game and get away with it. Maybe the young Favre.

To me Rodgers is taking sacks for the same reason Roethlisberger does -- waiting for the receiver to come open. That's as opposed to Jason Campbell, who's overcautious.

Posted by: Samson151 | May 22, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse

They forgot to mention that Michael Wilbon plays a special role as the court herald.

He wears tights and a floppy hat and announces the arrival of McNabb at each of his venues.

When he's not heralding, he's talks about Arizona, Charles Barkley and everything that sucks about Washington sports...

Posted by: p1funk | May 22, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: p1funk | May 22, 2010 2:21 PM

used to enjoy reading Wilbon and Kornheiser, but the allure of ESPN style celebrity and consequent name-dropping took their edge off... part of why I simply refuse to watch TV unless there is an actual game on.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 22, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

AND THE POINT OF THIS POST WASSSSSS????????????

Posted by: bsilvanus

To bring eyes to the blog. Thanks for playing.

Actually, it's an athlete giving back. No wonder you weren't interested.

Posted by: TheCork | May 22, 2010 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Was that post written by the Department of Redundancy Department??

Posted by: wireman65 | May 22, 2010 9:33 AM | Report abuse

Was that post written by the Department of Redundancy Department??

Posted by: wireman65 | May 22, 2010 9:33 AM

If you MEANT to do that, that's pretty funny.

Posted by: TheCork | May 22, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Shanny's pretty popular right now since, you know, he hasn't lost any games yet. Dude did get fired from his last gig - I guess Bowlen got tired of watching Shanny's teams fold down the stretch. I hope the shiny new 3-4 doesn't flop after Haynesworth has been traded away.

Posted by: coparker5 | May 22, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Was that post written by the Department of Redundancy Department??

Posted by: wireman65 | May 22, 2010 9:33 AM | Report abuse

Was that post written by the Department of Redundancy Department??

Posted by: wireman65 | May 22, 2010 9:33 AM

If you MEANT to do that, that's pretty funny.

Posted by: TheCork | May 22, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

It's even funnier if he didn't. Either way, I got a good laugh.

Posted by: frediefritz | May 22, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: TheCork | May 22, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse


Actually it was intentional

Posted by: wireman65 | May 22, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Go 'Skins!
Love Donovan McNabb; always a class act in Philly.
So, I'm a Redskins fan this year (once Raiders, sorry).
Does that fat, overweight, self-loathing closet case Rush Limbaugh still have his fatwa against McNabb?
If so, all the more reason to love McNabb.
By the way Rush, how's that purchase of the Rams going for you?
Go 'Skins!

Posted by: osullivanc1 | May 22, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

I love Cooley.

But it sure didn't take him long to switch horses, LOL

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | May 22, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse

I love Cooley.

But it sure didn't take him long to switch horses, LOL

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | May 22, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse
He's not stuupid. DMN will help his career, not by being a better passer, but by being a better leader, and by being a winner.

Posted by: frediefritz | May 22, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | May 22, 2010 5:05 PM

"Love the one you're with."

CSN&Y

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 22, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

At first they were keeping extra blockers in the formation limiting Rodgers options and opposing teams continued to sack him.

Then they sent 4 and 5 receivers out on the route a la Spurrier. With more options to throw to, the Packers strategy was for Rodgers to throw the ball on no later than his 5th step or take off running.

Posted by: Vicc | May 22, 2010 12:28 PM |

This is a dilemma the Skins will face in the very first game of the season. Keep blockers in to help the tyro Trent against the all-pro D Ware or have McN unload quickly. And they can't afford to get it wrong because McN isn't as young and hardy as A-Rod.

Posted by: BiggerVance | May 22, 2010 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Actually, that was Stephen Stills gone solo from that Whinepack of hippies ("Silver Ships", "CAAAAARRRY OONN!!!"AAAAAAAAAAAA!!!), Diesel44..And next time you travel 10,000 light years, don't show up with the same receiver, okay?? worser than a freakin' tasmanian wolf..

I actually like Neil Young some, admit..

Posted by: frak | May 22, 2010 5:48 PM | Report abuse

certain computer games (Call Of Duty for me), you just gotta have it..

Posted by: frak | May 22, 2010 12:18 PM |

Can't wait for the new one, Black Ops, to come out. Is there a way to score a copy in advance?

Posted by: BiggerVance | May 22, 2010 5:54 PM | Report abuse

Wooden Ships, actually that was. I think there were some silver people on the shoreline at some point though.

Posted by: SMACK1 | May 22, 2010 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Actually, that was Stephen Stills gone solo from that Whinepack of hippies ("Silver Ships", "CAAAAARRRY OONN!!!"AAAAAAAAAAAA!!!), Diesel44

Posted by: frak | May 22, 2010 5:48 PM |

"Silver Ships"? Mebbe "Wooden Ships".

Posted by: BiggerVance | May 22, 2010 6:17 PM | Report abuse

BiggerVance-
Sometimes you gotta wait for these new things to see if they can handle Darwinian reality and theyve worked the bugs out..They get so caught up in the mooly-mooly Hollywood greed of the moment, they neglect the devil in the details ( see recent auto recalls)..

Posted by: frak | May 22, 2010 6:18 PM | Report abuse

heheheheheh, yeah...

Posted by: frak | May 22, 2010 6:20 PM | Report abuse

Actually, that was Stephen Stills gone solo from that Whinepack of hippies ("Silver Ships", "CAAAAARRRY OONN!!!"AAAAAAAAAAAA!!!), Diesel44

Posted by: frak | May 22, 2010 5:48 PM |

"Silver Ships"? Mebbe "Wooden Ships".

Posted by: BiggerVance | May 22, 2010 6:17 PM |

It was prolly the dude's acid diminished synapses confusing "Wooden Ships" with "After the Gold Rush":

Well, I dreamed I saw the silver spaceships flyin'
in the yellow haze of the sun,
there were children cryin' and colours flyin'
all around the chosen ones
All in a dream, all in a dream the loading had begun.
Flying Mother Nature's silver seed to a new home in the sun.
Flying Mother Nature's silver seed to a new home.

Posted by: BiggerVance | May 22, 2010 6:40 PM | Report abuse

SMACK1 - did you ever pick your feet in Poughkeepsie?

Posted by: BiggerVance | May 22, 2010 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Regarding the Rush Limbaugh comments concerning McNabb:
Of course they were out of line.
Of course Rush thinks he knows more about FB than he does.

But folks, we must be able to look at issues not through a political lens all of the time.
Therefore, Rush had every right to pursue his desired ownership in the Rams.

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | May 22, 2010 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Coulda been the Silver Mountain that got him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFH36je9Hro

RIP DIO!

Posted by: SMACK1 | May 22, 2010 7:25 PM | Report abuse

Was that post written by the Department of Redundancy Department??

Posted by: wireman65 | May 22, 2010 9:33 AM | Report abuse
--------------------------------------------
And the Natural Guard.

Posted by: CynicalFan1 | May 22, 2010 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: p1funk | May 22, 2010 2:21 PM

used to enjoy reading Wilbon and Kornheiser, but the allure of ESPN style celebrity and consequent name-dropping took their edge off... part of why I simply refuse to watch TV unless there is an actual game on.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 22, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse


Wilbon is dead-weight at WaPo in my humble opinion ever since he became an ESPN/NBA company man.

They must keep him around b/c he still gives WaPo exposure by being on TV all the time.

His columns have become crap. Not interestiing. Not insightful. And disconnected from the Washington sports scene.

They're a 3 minute PTI bit fashioned into a few paragraphs.

Posted by: p1funk | May 22, 2010 7:37 PM | Report abuse

Today's Best Headline:

"Cops: Sexual predator tortured with blow torch"

Unfortunately, none of his victims was present to enjoy the predator getting what he deserved.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 22, 2010 7:39 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 22, 2010 7:39 PM

You can take Dexter Morgan off the list of suspects. That's his type of victim but not his M.O.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 22, 2010 7:46 PM | Report abuse

Unfortunately, none of his victims was present to enjoy the predator getting what he deserved.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 22, 2010 7:39 PM |

I guess you are a "street justice" vigilante type. Glad you aren't Atty Gen.

Posted by: BiggerVance | May 22, 2010 7:48 PM | Report abuse

While we're on perversion, what's with this???

A former Los Angeles Kings hockey player and current assistant coach was charged Friday with sexually assaulting his adult daughter at the Mayflower Hotel.

Mark Hardy, 51, was charged with fourth-degree sexual abuse in connection with fondling his daughter in the hotel room after the two walked from a bar on 19th Street around 1 a. m. The daughter reportedly attends college in D.C.

The victim told police that she and her father were “very intoxicated,” and after she had changed her clothes, got into bed and fell asleep, she was awakened by her father laying next to her and touching her inappropriately, according to documents filed late Friday in D.C. Superior Court.

After first denying that anything happened, Hardy apologized to his daughter, the court papers said. She then ran from the room to the front desk for help.


Posted by: SMACK1 | May 22, 2010 7:55 PM | Report abuse

RIP DIO!

Posted by: SMACK1 | May 22, 2010 7:25 PM

saw Dio at (lol) Exhale in Frederick about 8 years ago. Ronnie James wailed. Simon Wright was drumming for them. about, what, 500 people there? great time, they rocked HARD.

Posted by: terrapin3 | May 22, 2010 7:56 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 22, 2010 7:39 PM

did they catch the torcher? maybe they'll give him a medal.

Posted by: terrapin3 | May 22, 2010 7:58 PM | Report abuse

The Complete (true) Blow Torch Story:


Orlando, FL

Tyler Weisman is considered a crime victim, but getting tortured and robbed while looking for a hooker late Thursday may land him in prison, according to the state Department of Corrections.

Weisman, a 54-year-old registered sexual predator, was beaten about 9:30 p.m. when he was lured into a house on Orlando's west side "with promises of prostitution," according to Orlando police reports.

Convicted last year of molesting an 11-year-old girl in Seminole County, Weisman spent a year in jail and received 20 years of probation, records show.

But on Thursday night, police reports state, the former computer salesman turned down a crack-smoking prostitute's advances but remained at the house on Springdale Road when an ex-convict offered to get him "a younger girl."

The offer turned out to be a ruse.

Albert Brooks, who has served three sentences in state prison, thought his potential client was an undercover police officer, reports stated. He left the room and then returned with an aerosol can and cigarette lighter. Brooks "sprayed the contents of the can while holding a lighter to the fumes creating a sort of flame thrower" and burned the side of Weisman's face to force him to admit he was a cop, reports state.

Weisman managed to escape after getting beaten on the head, being robbed of $75 and losing his hearing aids and eyeglasses, reports stated.

Unable to tell police the exact address of the attack, Weisman led officers back to the house by describing a "Jesus" sign displayed in front of the building, reports state. Weisman, who could not be reached, was treated for his injuries at Florida Hospital South, reports stated.

No charges have been filed against Weisman, but he is now under investigation by state probation and parole officials. Notified of the incident Friday afternoon, state Probation and Parole Regional Director Barbara Scala in Orlando said the agency will conduct an in-depth review of Weisman's behavior to determine if he violated probation and warrants being sent to prison.

Scala noted that Weisman's probation requires him to wear a GPS monitor, which will show if he violated his 10 p.m.-to-6 a.m. curfew. Other conditions include not associating with criminals or visiting place where intoxicants and illegal drugs are used.

Brooks, who was accused of torturing Weisman, was arrested on charges of false imprisonment, aggravated battery with a deadly weapon and robbery with a weapon. He remains held in the Orange County Jail in lieu of $20,600 bail.


I'm still trying to figure out what Mr. Brooks did wrong.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 22, 2010 8:44 PM | Report abuse

I think it was "Defending Your Life". "Lost in America" was pretty good.

Posted by: SMACK1 | May 22, 2010 8:59 PM | Report abuse

I dont know too much about this John Wall kid,but is he anything like Rondo cause that lil' dude is nice.

Posted by: smittdiddy | May 22, 2010 9:02 PM | Report abuse

I'm still trying to figure out what Mr. Brooks did wrong.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 22, 2010 8:44 PM |

If the dude had used your ugly puss for a can of sterno you might be able to figure it out. Idiot.

Posted by: BiggerVance | May 22, 2010 9:15 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: p1funk | May 22, 2010 7:37 PM

exactly.

don't have time to stick around for answers, but since we all like to dog on our diligent RI beat reporters...

would be curious to know who peeps think delivers the best sports reporting around, regardless of media (web, TV, radio, newspaper, telegraph, smoke signals, etc).

that topic could also be saved for an even slower day in the future.

g'night all, moo-in-law finally returns to DC on Monday.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 22, 2010 9:24 PM | Report abuse

I'm still trying to figure out what Mr. Brooks did wrong.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 22, 2010 8:44 PM

Just happened to be in the era of protect the pedophiliacs.. Personnally he shud have burned him down a lot lower until it was just an ash.

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | May 22, 2010 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps. But most of Rodgers sacks occurred prior to the Pack deploying multiple receiving options. Opposing teams blitzed fewer times because of Rodgers knack for throwing the ball quickly.

Rodgers success has led me to believe that he watches a ton of video and studies opposing defenses.

Kurt Warner was a master at recognizing pressure and throwing the ball against the blitz. The blitzing side always leaves a void in coverage.

Posted by: Vicc | May 22, 2010 12:42 PM

Pricc,

Stop it. Your argument is RIDICULOUS. Meaning, it makes you look not smart.

How much football do YOU watch?
My dog watches the games, too. I'm not sure you understand much more than he does.

I thought you might be playing devil's advocate - or maybe you were bored and figured you'd stir up trouble with some ridiculous proposition. Now, I'm actually starting to believe that YOU believe what you're saying. And that does not speak well of your common sense, let alone football IQ.

If you think we should be emulating the Packers, that alone, proves you need to unplug your pc.

Kurt Warner's career DOVE because he couldn't handle pressure. As long as he wasn't getting hit, he was great, like most NFL QBs (except Wrecks Nessman).

don't be a dicc.
shut it.

Posted by: Thinker_ | May 22, 2010 9:45 PM | Report abuse

"Opposing teams blitzed fewer times because of Rodgers knack for throwing the ball quickly."

Posted by: Dicc | May 22, 2010 12:42 PM

Yeah, that's true. First, the fact that the number of blitzes decreased in direct relation to all of Rodgers' quick completions has been well documented. I mean, just look at the number of blitzes per pass attempt! It's obvious, right? I mean, you probably could just go ahead and post those figures - both BEFORE and AFTER teams realized Rodgers is so quick - just to prove that you're not full of it.

And Secondly, after you prove your insane statement, you could just go ahead and paste the quotes up here of all the Defensive Coordinators who faced the Packers where they say the reason they gave up on the blitz is because it was unsuccessful. Which is why the Packers never had a chance. Which is why Rodgers was the most sacked QB in the NFL last year.

If we do that, you'll be the first one to try to propose why Wrecks Nessman is better than Jason Campbell. Because you are like a kid.

"Daddy, why don't they just throw bombs for TDs all the time?"

"Well, little Pricc, Jr., it's because JC17 holds onto the ball too long. He's not 'intelligent' enough to make those quick decisions"

Please, for the sake of common sense, stuff it.

And you're not doing yourself any favors, buddy. You're making yourself look really really really not very smart at all.

Posted by: Thinker_ | May 22, 2010 9:53 PM | Report abuse

My dog watches the games, too.

Posted by: Thinker_ | May 22, 2010 9:45 PM |

Dude - you should make sure that your dog gets a chance to watch a lot of college games. He wouldn't have a team to root for in the NFL (outside of any team that is playing a team that Dog Killer is on) but with college he has a lot of choices - Huskies: Wash and UConn; Wolfpack: NC State and Nevada; etc. If he is willing to go FCS then Salukis from Southern Ill.

Posted by: BiggerVance | May 22, 2010 10:02 PM | Report abuse

How could I not list the most important dog icon of all - Bulldogs: Georgia, Miss State and Fresno State. And if he is willing to go FCS without the CS then Yale of course.

Posted by: BiggerVance | May 22, 2010 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, believe anything you read and hear..***yawn***...Christ, Orlando could've even SORTA showed up..

Posted by: frak | May 22, 2010 10:11 PM | Report abuse

Christ, Orlando could've even SORTA showed up..

Posted by: frak | May 22, 2010 10:11 PM |

What do you expect? After we all saw Christ dog it aginst the C's why do you think Orlando would be any different?

Posted by: BiggerVance | May 22, 2010 10:19 PM | Report abuse

Orlando had so much promise.."Knock-Three-Times!! On the ceiling if you want meeee...Twice on the pipe (BAMBAM!!) , If the answer is no-o-o-o..."

Posted by: frak | May 22, 2010 10:59 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, that's true. First, the fact that the number of blitzes decreased in direct relation to all of Rodgers' quick completions has been well documented. I mean, just look at the number of blitzes per pass attempt! It's obvious, right? I mean, you probably could just go ahead and post those figures - both BEFORE and AFTER teams realized Rodgers is so quick - just to prove that you're not full of it.

And Secondly, after you prove your insane statement, you could just go ahead and paste the quotes up here of all the Defensive Coordinators who faced the Packers where they say the reason they gave up on the blitz is because it was unsuccessful. Which is why the Packers never had a chance. Which is why Rodgers was the most sacked QB in the NFL last year.

Posted by Stinker_


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First off you win with the name calling. I was laughing my ass off with the whole pricc and dicc thing.

Now I heard Mike Sherman--not opposing defensive coordinators you schmuck--discuss possible remedies for the Packers poor offensive line play. I apologize for I can't find the video or audio clip of him talking about giving Aaron more targets to throw to versus keeping extra blockers to protect Aaron. Just take my word for it...

But check this out: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/splits?playerId=8439

During the first 8 games of the season Aaron was sacked 37 times with a YPA of 8.67

The final 8 games Aaron was sacked 13 times with a YPA of 7.75.

Mebbe you can thinker of a better way to explain how the fucc that happened?

Here's one more interesting stat:

Against the Blitz Aaron completed 68.4% of his passes with 9.28ypa and threw 14tds on only 174 attempts for a passer rating of 117.4.

Against a non-blitz(4 man rush) Aaron completed 62.6% of his passes with 8ypa and threw 20tds on a whopping 364 attempts for a passer rating of 97.9

Can you Thinker_ of a reason why Aaron was more successful versus the blitz?

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that I have more "NFL-knowledge" cred here on the blog than your dumb@ss. Nobody likes you. NOBODY!

Posted by: Vicc | May 22, 2010 11:13 PM | Report abuse

I dont know too much about this John Wall kid,but is he anything like Rondo cause that lil' dude is nice.

Posted by: smittdiddy | May 22, 2010 9:02 PM


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Damn I hope so. because Rondo is ballin' !

Posted by: Vicc | May 22, 2010 11:29 PM | Report abuse

Well, again, Vicccp, if you think the Redskins should go that route, I'm glad your influence is limited to posting comments herein.

Hey, at least you make friends doing it, unlike me, who has to rely on the mundane world of reality for friendship, acceptance, and being generally "liked."

Even so, with not ONE "friend" on all of the Washington Post Comment Sections so far, I will continue to say what the ficc I want to, when I want to, and say how I see it.

A lot of people got mad when I called the Caps chokers after game 5. Oh the ficc well! I didn't see anybody posting "you were right"s on here either. Just a bunch of tools killing time on here, of which I'm just another, with no delusions of friendship or fulfillment.

I just WISH the Redskins would go to a Packer-style offense - which, I'm sure was not the preference of the Packers, themselves - so you could see how McInjured would do versus the flawed and slow Jason Campbell. For a good indication of what our offense would look like, see the last two Philly games at Dallas. McNabb looked like McSh!t.

You don't see the Patriots winning Super Bowls with Brady on the ground. You don't see the Colts in the Super Bowl with no run game. The "Chuck and Duck" offense has been proven a failure.

I KNOW Shanahan is not as ignorant as you are, so I know we will not live to see your ideal offense in action. Nobody, except maybe Vinnie, would believe that what you propose is a winning strategy.

And, in conclusion, Ficc everybody else on here, too. I'd rather them not talk out their rears than like me.

I wonder if they'd like me more if I said "nice" stuff and said what good ideas they have, even though, many times I feel they don't know what the ficc they're talking about.

Topics I think are usually limited to those who don't know squat about the game:

40 times. Overrated. Why nobody signed Carl Lewis?

# of bench presses of 225lbs. Who the ficc cares?

Quick release. Lots of guys with 'quick release' playing flag football.

QB stinks. And dismiss importance of O Line play and run game.

And finally, FS. Go ahead. Put Carlos Rogers at FS. Dumbest thing I've ever heard of.

Stats often point to real trends, but they also are known to lie. I don't rely on them. A good team usually beats a worse team, despite the stats. A good team often has good players on it, more often employing a superior strategy. Football, despite what most people think, is a game of intelligence. Sure, a strong guy with a nice 40 can play, but he will not be special. Montana was special. Peyton Manning is special. Emmitt Smith was special. Darrell Green was special. John Riggins was special. They combined athletic skill with intelligence.

Going into the season with 12 wideouts and a 'dirt bag' O Line is not intelligent.

Posted by: Thinker_ | May 23, 2010 4:21 AM | Report abuse

Nobody likes you. NOBODY!

Posted by: Vicc | May 22, 2010 11:13 PM

I mean. THAT is hilarious on so many levels. Should be in the RI Hall of Fame. I don't even know where to begin. It's just sublime. Thanks.

Posted by: Thinker_ | May 23, 2010 5:51 AM | Report abuse

And by the way, did it ever occur to you that Rogers did better when he wasn't getting sacked?

What was the Packers' record over the last 8 games vs the first 8 when he was getting the stuffing sacked out of him?

And WHAT A DIFFERENCE! I mean, 68.4% vs 62.8% Wow. Just BEGGING the opponents to blitz, right?

Did you ever think that maybe "against the blitz" was on obvious passing downs? Where the play-calling took the anticipated blitz into account and gave Rodgers a safety release? Maybe a quick pass to the back would explain the higher percentage and lower yardage. Whatever. I know his career will be short if it keeps up like that.

I mean, stats are great when you're negotiating your contract, but they don't really say squat.

Rodgers is a good QB. I can see that without knowing his passer rating. Brunell was WAY worse than his numbers suggest. Campbell? I can't believe he had a positive Passer Rating in light of the moronic scheme, lack of run, strength of schedule, and pathetic O Line. Yet, he did.

So, here's what I think about stats:

That's why they play the game.

Posted by: Thinker_ | May 23, 2010 6:03 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: BiggerVance

"If the dude had used your ugly puss for a can of sterno you might be able to figure it out. Idiot."

Mr. Vance, I'm sorry that you cannot detect sarcasm and feel that men who associate with crack prostitutes while on probation for molesting 11 year old girls deserve any kind of empathy.

Me?: I say set them all on fire.

People who sexually abuse children deserve a punishment worse than death.

For some crimes, extended suffering should be apart of the sentencing requirement.

The last thing a sexual predator needs is 'probation' when things like blowtorches, sleep deprivation, Abu Gharib-style torture, thumb screws, biggervance posts, electric shock, and genital mutilation are more appropriate reponses, despite the soft-minded claims of the 8th Amendment.

This belief is why--according to you--I'm an 'idiot'.

And if believing so makes me one, then I'm proud to have the title.

And by the way, because you're slow to recognize it, there is no sarcasm intended in any of this post.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 23, 2010 7:39 AM | Report abuse

Moe musta woke on the wrong side of the rock..How 'bout them Skins??

Pack are just lucky that Beluga fell to them. If we had takin' him , it wouldn't have been too bad. But, now the Pack are positioning for a run against the Vikes, if Rodgers gets protection with those receivers, watch out..

Posted by: frak | May 23, 2010 9:18 AM | Report abuse

For some crimes, extended suffering should be apart of the sentencing requirement.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 23, 2010 7:39 AM | Report abuse


Like, for instance, forcing them to reading to the end of every RI thread.

Posted by: farstriker | May 23, 2010 9:30 AM | Report abuse

Thinker_

"I just WISH the Redskins would go to a Packer-style offense...."


Zorno started out this way (3/4 wide sets), but gave up after a rash of offensive line injuries, his wack scheme, Campbell's indecisive nature, and poor wide receiver play all contributed to the meltdown we witnessed over the past two seasons.

And presently, we remain decidely weak in two of the areas listed here: offensive line and wide receiver play.

We know the redskins will run the ball well.

Hicks and Williams will be servicable tackles with no depth behind them.

But we also know that teams will play 8 man fronts and run-blitz up until McNabb finds a target that'll make defenses play honest.

You have to also hope the FO takes some steps to secure an additional vet receiver to be in place should S Moss receive some sort of sanction from Roger Goodell behind HGH allegations.

We can open up and pass in the style folks want.

But until the line play is solid and receivers show they can make plays, Yogi Berra will say the redskin offense is Zorno-Deja vu all over again having seen it all before.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 23, 2010 9:31 AM | Report abuse

Jeez, the Jets STOLE 1,200+ Santonio fer a 5th..Where's OUR Christmas present??


Here's a guy that will relieve ALL your suffering!!
Sing along with Shock-O!! OMMMMMMMM..

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Posted by: frak | May 23, 2010 9:56 AM | Report abuse

" Judge, the reason why I tried to kill 10,000 people on the subway with poison gas was because I loved them and wanted to relieve their suffering..I will relieve your suffering, too, if you give me a moment.."

Posted by: frak | May 23, 2010 10:51 AM | Report abuse

While the debate continues whether the A.W.O.L. Washington Redskins defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth is the biggest crybaby in NFL history, don’t expect the "I don't wanna play no 3-4!" whiner to defend himself publicly anytime soon.

Posted by: RedCherokee | May 23, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse

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