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Posted at 12:44 PM ET, 12/28/2010

Donovan McNabb supports his agent's fiery statement

By Rick Maese

Quarterback Donovan McNabb said he supports the controversial statement issued last week by his agent, who blasted the Redskins, but he repeated his desire to return to the Redskins next season.

"Would I like to be the quarterback here? Yes, absolutely," he said during his weekly radio show on ESPN 980 Tuesday afternoon.

"Things would obviously have to change," he added. "Relationships would have to be better. Conversations would have to be better."

Last week, McNabb's agent, Fletcher Smith, issued a statement criticizing offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan and saying the quarterback and the Shanahans share "an extremely difficult relationship to maintain." The next day, Kyle Shanahan said he had spoken with McNabb, who, Shanahan said, told him that the agent's comments did not accurately reflect McNabb's feelings.

McNabb, meanwhile, stayed silent throughout the public back-and-forth, declining to answer reporters' questions. In fact, since he was benched, McNabb's only comments have come during his weekly radio appearances on the radio station, which is owned by Daniel Snyder. McNabb is contractually obligated to do the shows each week.

"I support my agent and his thoughts," McNabb said repeatedly Tuesday.

The quarterback said he did not see Smith's statement before it was issued last Thursday. "When I read the whole thing, I didn't see nothing wrong with it," he noted. And while he wasn't upset with Smith's comments, McNabb said he didn't understand the reaction.

"I guess as you read in the article, he put his thoughts into the whole deal, not Donovan's thoughts," McNabb said.

McNabb also confirmed that he later met with Kyle Shanahan, though he didn't characterize the meeting in quite the same way as the offensive coordinator did.

"We discussed a lot of different things," McNabb said. "Those are ones that I'll keep between Kyle and I. I thought we got things out there on the table, and we're ready to move on."

He said he's on the "same page" as Kyle Shanahan, "and we're moving on from this matter."

McNabb said he doesn't regret the contract extension he signed swith the Redskins in November. "Not at all," he said.

McNabb served as the Redskins' emergency No. 3 quarterback last Sunday at Jacksonville and is expected to fill the same role in this weekend's season finale against the New York Giants. He practiced with the team last week and took reps with the scout team, which he says he'll do this week, as well.

By Rick Maese  | December 28, 2010; 12:44 PM ET
Categories:  Donovan McNabb  
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Comments

I think the time has come to finally do what we all know needs doing.

And by that I mean, bringing in Dr. Phil.

Posted by: freakzilla | December 28, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

The drama will never end.

Posted by: bangkokben | December 28, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

What? I don't understand. This whole thing sounds like a bunch of girls.

Posted by: PlayAction | December 28, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Andy Reid knew what he was doing.

Posted by: rickyroge | December 28, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Now, let's have less Donovan drama, and more F the Giants.

Here's to Hall, Rogers & Barnes making Eli's 4-pick performance vs. the Packers look like a good day.

Posted by: freakzilla | December 28, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Quarterback Donovan McNabb said he supports the controversial statement issued last week by his agent, who blasted the Redskins, but he repeated his desire to return to the Redskins next season.

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Translation: I agree with my agent that Shanahan and his son are both two-face SOBs who did me wrong, but I still think I can get Snyder in my corner.

Posted by: Alan4 | December 28, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

We might need a solid third-stringer with the Giants pass rush..Still say McNabb needed better pass protection , but Rex has performed capably for a second-stringer..Cutler had a sh*tty first year with the Bears, maybe the Skins might try a little patience..Still will need a franchise QB rook to develop, regardless of McNabb's status..

Posted by: frak | December 28, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

"I support my agent and his thoughts," McNabb said repeatedly Tuesday.


Shouldn't this be the other way around?

Posted by: Alan4 | December 28, 2010 1:02 PM | Report abuse


mcnabb = over the hill and in denial

Posted by: hessone | December 28, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

For those of us talking draft, this from Hog Heaven:

Part 1

Redskins have reinforcements on both lines but need to find more pass rushers.

Redskins fans can hold their heads up high because of the emergence of a few of players on the line of scrimmage who are on the right side of age 30 and have performed for this team in a lost season. Defensively, LB Rob Jackson, LB Chris Wilson, DE Jeremy Jarmon, NT Anthony Bryant, OL Kory Lichtensteiger, OL Will Montgomery, and TE Logan Paulsen have found niches on a mostly veteran team. And, of course, there's Trent Williams, the team's franchise left tackle.

The placement of these players is excellent from the perspective of wanting to build your teams through the lines first. All of those players play in the trenches. They haven't all had great seasons, but if the problem with the line play is in fact some underachieving veterans could not stop the bleeding all season, well, that's one of the more fixable problems an NFL team can encounter.

It's also important because the Washington Redskins are going to need to acquire an expensive quarterback project within the next year or two years, and those projects are much more likely to fail if you have no young talent or depth in the trenches on either side of the ball. At this time last year, the Redskins probably didn't have as much talent in the defensive trenches as we thought, and likely didn't have any depth in the lines on either side of the football. This represents positive change, not in the overall direction of the franchise, but in one of the very first steps of a rebuilding project.

The direction of the franchise will be determined by who the next quarterback is, as well as with the development of it's receiving corps, the decision the team will make at RT with Jammal Brown, Stephon Heyer, and others, and how dominant the defense can become with LaRon Landry and Brian Orakpo and all the other pass rushers the team will need to add. The youth in the trenches will play the role of the supporting actors. But a good cast would be just a mediocre one if it doesn't have it's contributors. Guys like Jarmon, Bryant, Jackson, and Lichtensteiger are minor players, but important ones.

The Redskins have two draft picks and a lot of free agent dollars to add the players they will need to improve their offense and defense: a couple of quality defensive backs, and a couple of quality pass rushers, a quarterback, a wideout for the new quarterback to throw to and develop with, and a few key decisions on the offensive line. Mostly, the Redskins largest need is to convert their 5+ second day picks into quality depth pieces (and to add more to those picks).

Posted by: sweetsweetlou | December 28, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

F DA gIANTS

Posted by: retroskins14 | December 28, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

It will be interesting to see if the Redskins can solve all their needs in one offseason. Last offseason, player movement was limited, and the Redskins had just one draft pick in the first three rounds. There was nothing they could do to fill every one of the needs they diagnosed. This is not to excuse the horrible offseason and all the decisions to play underachieving veterans that helped the Redskins build one of their worst rosters ever, and the worst of the Snyder era. Only to say that the means to fill all of the roster's holes last year did not exist. Win or lose, this was going to be a flawed Redskins team. The losing is not excusable simply because the perfect roster was unobtainable. This offseason, the perfect roster is theoretically obtainable.

That doesn't mean it is likely to be achieved. I have diagnosed four defensive and three or four (pending a Moss extension) offensive needs that the Redskins have, and only two of those can be achieved by drafting quality players in the first two rounds. If the Redskins are going to heed my suggestions and spend their first two picks on 1) a quarterback or receiver, and 2) a pass rusher, then free agency must be sufficient for three other defensive needs and at least two other offensive needs.

The offensive line needs would be most easily solved by a key free agent signing, with many strong guards available on the market. Wide receivers are also plentiful free agents this year. Quarterbacks: not so much. There's a couple interesting trade options, headlined by Chad Henne, Carson Palmer, and Kyle Orton. But the best available free agents: Seneca Wallace, Matt Moore, Matt Leinart, and Tavaris Jackson. There's not a lot of great options there. The draft may be the best option to get next year's quarterback.

One of the unintended consequences of Michael Vick's impending free agency with the Eagles is that he may occupy the team's franchise tag, making their best safety, Quentin Mikell, an unrestricted free agent. San Diego's Eric Weddle would be a nice consolation prize. I also think that Ike Taylor would be an excellent free agent addition by the Redskins in the secondary. With the free agent pass rushers expected to be quickly sucked up by franchise tags and big money re-signings, the Redskins will likely have to go to the draft for some sort of pass rushing help in the second round.

An aggressive free agent strategy will be necessary if the goal is to fill all the holes this offseason, and with Mike Shanahan's job security involved, it may have to be that way. Because of last year's limit on player movement, there are more than five available free agents who fit the Redskins scheme. Expect one of the more aggressive free agent spending sprees of the Snyder-era. Doesn't that make you feel warm and fuzzy?

Still, Redskins fans need reason to believe, and some individual player development in the last few weeks could provide some of that reason. Help is on the way.

Posted by: sweetsweetlou | December 28, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Wish McNabb would stop talking now.... The benching happened a few weeks ago and there is only one game left in the season. What good does it do to keep bringing up or addressing the situation?

My advice to McNabb: STFU, book your VayCay travel plans, and compile a list of desirable destinations to hand into your agent.

Posted by: RedDMV | December 28, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Now, without a creative trade, the Redskins will not be able to avoid giving the keys to a rookie quarterback and growing as a franchise along with him. Realistically, you're looking at 2013 being the next time the Redskins are in competition for the NFC East division, and that's if everything goes according to plan. We still have little idea if there is a plan, or whether we can trust the people currently in control of the franchise. But if the Redskins finally commit to rebuilding -- beginning in 2011 -- a younger, more talented Redskins team would be expected to emerge on the otherside. And in the NFL, the other side may never be as far away as one may think, for those franchises who know how to do it right.

The End

Posted by: sweetsweetlou | December 28, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Vick didn't even enter my mind there.....

Posted by: scampbell1975 |


Too bad. There would have been lots of room for him to scramble.

Posted by: TheCork | December 28, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Tuesday Night Football!! There is a god.

God would schedule Tuesday nite football so that it would feature two teams heading into a BYE.

In other words, we may see Tuesday nite football more often than we see God, especially if it's a ratings monstah.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 28, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

It's true, we don't have the QB farm that could grow a Brady, Favre or Rodgers, so we need to take a QB that will come out of college walkin' and talkin', like Ryan or Flacco...Given coach Shanahan's high praise of Michael Vick, I'd say he'd go after Cam Newton..Though Luck or Mallett or this kid from Mizzou on tonight might come out ready to rock, ..

Posted by: frak | December 28, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Snyder breeds dysfunction.

Posted by: malcolmyoung1 | December 28, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

"If the Redskins are going to heed my suggestions and spend their first two picks on 1) a quarterback or receiver, and 2) a pass rusher, then free agency must be sufficient for three other defensive needs and at least two other offensive needs."

--Hog's Heaven

I will be praying the Redskins not only heed your suggestions but publicly credit you for them.

Posted by: TheCork | December 28, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse

And da playoffs start next week!! Great time of year ta be a football fan-where da hell are my Skins??

Posted by: frak | December 28, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Tonight's game was only moved so the NFL will be able to see how their product would do on a night it isn't usually on.

With a 18 game schedule looming their best bet is to have games on days besides Sunday and Monday. I can see them incorporating a schedule that will consist of two bye weeks per team and at least one game on everyday of the week.


This is about to be "This ain't Your's NFL". With the all the rule and scheduling changes that will take place football won't be the same as we knew it as recently as 5 years ago.

Posted by: RedDMV | December 28, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse

What are playoffs?

Posted by: PlayAction | December 28, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse

red, BINGO, not sure what he thinks will happen talking about it now..just zip it, and move on...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 28, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Adios Donavan, it has been nice (not really). Have fun gettting clobbered in Phoenix!

Posted by: skins10 | December 28, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Translation:

Shanahanigans didn't/don't want McNabb. McNabb wants another starting gig.

Is it really so hard to understand?

Go Skins!

Beat the Ginas...

Posted by: DikShuttle | December 28, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Centers:

Mike Pouncey OC 6'5" 309 Florida 93 1 19
Rodney Hudson OC 6'2½" 277 Florida State 85 2 44 NO!
Stefen Wisniewski OC 6'3" 293 Penn State 70 3 103 NO!
Kris O'Dowd OC 6'4" 298 USC 60 4 140
Zane Taylor OC 6'1½" 298 Utah 46 5 NO!
Chase Beeler OC 6'2½" 273 Stanford 39 6 NO!
Ryan Pugh OC 6'1" 293 Auburn 37 7 NO!
Ryan McMahon OC 6'1½" 282 Florida State 32 8 NO!
Alexander Linnenkohl OC 6'2" 299 Oregon State 30 9 NO!
Kevin Kowalski OC 6'3" 295 Toledo 30 10 NO!

Posted by: mhartz1


NO! NO! NO! to undersized CENTERS! (USC Guy is 6'4"can put on 20 LBS)

I''d take Pouncey in a heartbeat-- but the first rounder is too high and Pouncey'll be gone by the second round.

Posted by: TheCork | December 28, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Donovan is just in touch with his feminine side. Believes that it is therapeutic when you talk your problems out instead of keeping them bottled in.


Also believes in a good cry from time to time.

Posted by: RedDMV | December 28, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse

@ PA,

How coat?

Posted by: DikShuttle | December 28, 2010 1:37 PM | Report abuse

So after denying what his agent said, he now supports it? He's just as bad as Shanny. Get rid of this chump.

Posted by: Wizbullets88 | December 28, 2010 1:38 PM | Report abuse

This is too funny. Talk about double talk - #5 should run for public office since he's in DC now. We all know your days are numbered and why would you want to stay here with this staff? We live here and don't want this crap to root for! Cleanse your soul, give them $2m on 3 Jan 11 and walk away, then man up and say what you really feel about the situation. Until there is an organizational identity in place from the top where The Danny decides what type of program is Redskins Football, this team will flounder and be in turmoil due to coach and player turnover!! Why reinvent the wheel the models are New England, Baltimore, and Pittsburg. The Danny must decide the vision and then get the GM to get coaches and players to fit that vision. Period.

Posted by: mdgolfer357 | December 28, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Donovan McNabb supports his agent's fiery statement

By Rick Maese

Of course he does. Donovan is his meal ticket and EVERY word that is written/said is run by Donovan first.

As far as class...Donovan is a first class loser. TO, Reid, Eagle Fans, DJax, & Diesel44 were right about him all along.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 28, 2010 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Donovan is just in touch with his feminine side. Believes that it is therapeutic when you talk your problems out instead of keeping them bottled in.


Also believes in a good cry from time to time.

Posted by: RedDMV | December 28, 2010 1:36 PM

He IS acting a lot like a chick right now since you mention it. Pasted an article in the last thread where Shanahan was praising and admiring him in training camp.

Now Shanny's ready to move on... like it was just a summer fling.

He needs to figure it out: Shanny's just not that into him.

Posted by: Alan4 | December 28, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

First of all McNabbs agent needs to shut his hole about us disrespecting McNabb. MC5 was a six time pro-bowler IN PHILLY!!!! HE AIN'T DONE POOP FOR US!!! WE OWE HIM NOTHING!!! 2nd, of course MC5 wants to be here next year, who else is gonna pay him 1 million $$$ per game? Trade him for what we can and be done with. I NEVER like the trade anyway. He's old and injury prone!

Posted by: vegasskinsfan | December 28, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse

I'm so glad that Mc5 outed himself as the passive-aggressive, double-talking, high-road-taking-wannabe that I have ALWAYS seen him to be.

I hope both Shannys were listening. I also hope sound from that interview gets played on ESPN during its prime time Sportscenters.

Even the least sophisticated, basement-dwelling tards here HAVE to see that McNabb is a diva that requires special handling for fear of backlash from washed-up ex players, analysts, talking heads and others who feel he has somehow earned tenure in the league and is beyond reproach.

Put him on the bench, have him report to minicamps and let the Cards and Vikes fight over his dive ass.

He's a f'ing chump, ball-hopping, falling-down, play-changing, non-system-grasping, puking, sideline-pouting doosh who even 2 years ago said himself he didn't know that NFL games could end in a tie.

Gotta change his name from Mc5 to Mc5th because that's all we're going to get for his ass.

Good riddance Donny.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 28, 2010 1:45 PM | Report abuse

D-Bag is being such a P$SSY. He satnds behind his agent, but when asked by Shanahan how he felt, he pussed out and took the easy road. My philly friends have been laughing all year about McNabb!!

Posted by: skins10 | December 28, 2010 1:45 PM | Report abuse

McNabb shows us all this leadership skills. He can't get it done on the field so he turns into another irrelevant locker room cancer. Still would like to know why he and his agent negotiated and signed that contract that gave control to the Redskins.

Posted by: beep-beep | December 28, 2010 1:45 PM | Report abuse

@ PA, How coat?

Posted by: DikShuttle | December 28, 2010 1:37 PM

Whats that Dik?

Hey...the ALL-TIME winningest professional sports team is in town today...The Harlem Globetrotters!

Posted by: PlayAction | December 28, 2010 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Jason, can you and others in the Washington media start talking or writing articles that deal with IMPROVING THE WASHINGTON REDSKINS FOOTBALL TEAM. As a reader, I am really starting to wonder about the professional journalism credentials of many of you out here. I have read more drama crap, than I have about ON THE FIELD GAME ISSUES than I ever had in my 37 years of following the Redskins. Please, I beg you before I write the Editor of this paper...PLEASE START WRITING ABOUT THE TEAM AND THE IMPROVING THE TEAM FOR NEXT YEAR! I DO NOT GIVE A DAMN ABOUT THIS DRAMA!

Posted by: ejharrisjr40 | December 28, 2010 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Well here you go. You want answers? Here's our answers. Nabb says " I don't see nothing wrong with my agents comments."
( the word is "anything" Don, not "nothing" ) Then Nabb says that those were his agents words and feelings, not his. So he's saying that he didn't say those things, he doesn't really feel that way, yet he agrees with his agent. What?WTF?? That explains why he couldn't pick up the offense and both Shannys frustration. How would you like this guy running your offense? Reid knew exactly what he was doing. Philly wouldn't have won the division this year with Nabb. The thing that bothers me is that when your on the inside of the NFL, you know things about players that the public doesn't know. Obviously, Nabb wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed. How come Shanny thought Nabb was such a steal and that learning a complex system like Kyle's would be easy for him? Or was it really Snyder? Anyway, we look stupid again.

Posted by: Riggo2 | December 28, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

I applaud Shanahan - both of them actually. This franchise has needed someone to take control and dismiss the drama as the nonsense it is. That's what the Shanahans are doing - changing the culture away from posers and looking for guys that actually want to play and can contribute. McNabb has not had a good year and if he feels disrespected - consider how much sooner he would have been benched if his name wasn't McNabb. They would have benched any other QB by about the fourth game. Good for the Shanahans.

Posted by: AsstGM | December 28, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

McNabb is no dummy. He will continue to insist that he wants to be here next year to force the Redskins to release him AFTER they pay the $3.5 million. McNabb will not give them any reason to back out of the contract. For $3.5 million, all of us will be willing to put up with a lot, especially when we know it will end with a fat check. The Shanahans are already the heavies in all this drama, so the sooner they release him and cut their losses the better off they will be.

However, if past is prologue to future, they will continue to say bad things about McNabb, both publicly and through anonymous leaks, to make the situation unbearable and force him to quit. Right until the bitter end. Just like they did with others (Haynesworth, Thomas, etc). Just like the Redskins have done with others (hi Jim Zorn!). Have the Redskins ever won one of these battles since Snyder bought the team?

McNabb is being very shrewd under the circumstances. Give Mike Shanahan enough rope to hang himself, and he will. And the best possible thing Kyle Shanahan can do is stop talking. Every time he opens his mouth, he gets caught fibbing and making things worse. Just coach football.

Posted by: haunches | December 28, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Why are we talking about McNabb?

The only thing I want to hear about him is what draft pick we get for him.

McNabb is dead to me.

Maybe the season would have been different if the Detroit benching lasted.

Posted by: iH8dallas | December 28, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Globe Trotters FTW!

Srry, PA - I was inside joking w/ myself! Something about ridiculous rhetorical questions and how they're funny.

Posted by: DikShuttle | December 28, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse


Arizona Cardinals need a replacement for Kurt Warner. And McNothing lives in Arizona. What a coincidence. And Wilbon will be able to attend home games. Hail, hail, the gangs all here ...

Posted by: g0tcha | December 28, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins are looked at as the new Raiders or Cleveland Browns around the rest of the country. A joke franchise.

Posted by: bal503 | December 28, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, that mystifies me more than the rest, iH8.

Posted by: DikShuttle | December 28, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

McNabb is no dummy. He will continue to insist that he wants to be here next year to force the Redskins to release him AFTER they pay the $3.5 million. McNabb will not give them any reason to back out of the contract. For $3.5 million, all of us will be willing to put up with a lot, especially when we know it will end with a fat check. The Shanahans are already the heavies in all this drama, so the sooner they release him and cut their losses the better off they will be.

Posted by: haunches | December 28, 2010 1:51 PM

Actually, McNabb was about as stupid as they come with this contract. The Redskins can release him right up until they decide their 53-man roster and not pay him another nickel.

Do you know what McNabb's chances are of landing a fat contract with another team the week before the season starts? He couldn't learn the Redskins offense with an entire off season, so he sure won't learn another team's offense the week before the regular season.

The Redskins are totally in control here and that's why McNabb and his agent are acting like the skunks that they are. "If you don't give us what we want, we're gonna make a big stink."

Posted by: beep-beep | December 28, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Some practice squad guy comes in and has a great game against a tough team.

A corner turned safety seals the deal in OT.

A defense made of practice squad players beats up David Garrard.

And all we get is McNabb posts.

He won't be here next year, as far as I'm concerned he's not a Redskin.

Boo Donovan----Yay Shanny Inc.

Posted by: iH8dallas | December 28, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

D-Mac's credibility took a nose dive recently because

(1) I think Kyle is telling the truth (why would he lie?) when he says that Donovan refuted some of what that jackhole agent said in his statement, and Donovan has now flip-flopped; and

(2) The idea that Donovan's bow tie-wearing, jackhole agent wrote all of those things WITHOUT Donovan's input and comment is ludicrous. Donovan is the jackhole's meal ticket. You're telling me the jackhole went out on a limb all by his lonesome? No way. Jackhole's don't do that.

(3) Donovan has hired a jackhole of an agent who is so stupid that he (i) believes he is a brie and chablis sophisticate; and (ii) thinks he is clever with his stupid little rant about Donovan's benching; and (iii) claimed to have signed Donovan to $40 million guaranteed, which turned out not to be true.

These reasons, combined with poor play, poor pratice habits and a failure to grasp the team playbook, are why D-Mac will be lucky to be ANYWHERE in the league next year.

Posted by: ktp70 | December 28, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Who cares at this point. He'll never play here again. Let's move on.

Posted by: skinsFan74 | December 28, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

I have been a Redskin fan since before Eddie Labaron played and was the QB. I continue to listen, with interest, about this situation. McNabb may have outlived his term as a pro bowl QB who is able to perform miracles for any NFL team; who knows. I have just one question; DID DENVER GET RID OF SHANAHAN or did he quit? Oops; sorry...I know the answer. Maybe both of these guys are ready to do something else. Why did Denver "can" a super bowl winning Coach? Perhaps Favre will be playing in 5 years and perhaps Dan Marino can still play in the NFL.

Posted by: ZZERO6 | December 28, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

None of the existing QBs will be part of the needed long term solution to bring a winning team to Washington, it will take 4 years and they want be around. What the team does not need is short term drama, let him go.

Posted by: edeshields | December 28, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

beep-beep

Posted by: beep-beep | December 28, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse

This all kinda reminds me of the debate during the waneing years of Marino's tenure...

...All sound and fury... signifying nothing.

Posted by: DikShuttle | December 28, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Quarterback Donovan McNabb said he supports the controversial statement issued last week by his agent, who blasted the Redskins, but he repeated his desire to return to the Redskins next season.

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Translation: I agree with my agent that Shanahan and his son are both two-face SOBs who did me wrong, but I still think I can get Snyder in my corner.

Posted by: Alan4 | December 28, 2010
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The only one with a fork tongue here seems to be McNabb, who appears to be saying something to his agent and another to his coach. The bottom line? This guy is a has been and now a cancer in the team that has tried to be patient with him, I say, put him in the same bus with Haynesworth and lets move on.

Posted by: hock1 | December 28, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse

PA's not watching this BEEPS---->

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 28, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Get rid of McNabb. Enough of his drama.

Posted by: thorhero | December 28, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse


YAWN!


Posted by: mortified469 | December 28, 2010 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: beep-beep | December 28, 2010 1:59 PM

It looks like they outsmarted him huh? To what end? They have made him all but untradeable with the $10M option bonus and $2.5M guaranteed base salary for '11. So either they really outsmarted themselves or they did it to screw him over. If the Skins wait until the day before the season to let him go, I think it will have negative implications for future FA acquisitions and contract extensions for their own players.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | December 28, 2010 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Cooley dropped that TD pass on Sunday because he was suprised that a ball hit in the chest when he was open.

That hasn't happened much this year.

Posted by: Original_etrod | December 28, 2010 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Jason, can you and others in the Washington media start talking or writing articles that deal with IMPROVING THE WASHINGTON REDSKINS FOOTBALL TEAM. As a reader, I am really starting to wonder about the professional journalism credentials of many of you out here. I have read more drama crap, than I have about ON THE FIELD GAME ISSUES than I ever had in my 37 years of following the Redskins. Please, I beg you before I write the Editor of this paper...PLEASE START WRITING ABOUT THE TEAM AND THE IMPROVING THE TEAM FOR NEXT YEAR! I DO NOT GIVE A DAMN ABOUT THIS DRAMA!

Posted by: ejharrisjr40 | December 28, 2010 1:47 PM

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The team sucks and the drama is 80% of the reason. This professional journalism is what will make the Danny change his philosophy and finally decide to have a real organization. Until then all of the nonsense that goes on in Ashburn needs to see the light of day so things can change.

Posted by: jimmydeanroundsausages | December 28, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan has a "problem" with quarterbacks. If I have my history right, all of them. Elway, Plummer....

Whoever the next guy is, Shanahan will be complaining.

Whether that's a good approach or not is anyone's guess.

Posted by: SteveMG | December 28, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

I see a pattern here with Shanahan which is identical to the one he exhibited in Denver. he is bent on showing who is BOSS and in the process publicly embarrases his players.Take the Haynesworth Saga as an example. He could have ended it awhile back before it became a problem. Now its McNabb's turn. Shanahan will lose respect from his players sooner than later which will get him out of here. His other problem is having a family member working in a high profile position. Its a bad policy for teams to allow this type of Nepotism. It does not happen in the real work world. I will wait for this locker room to blow up and for the SHANAHANS' RIDE out of town.I stop taking the Redskins serious.They need a young energetic coach who understands todays players. Stop with the Washed up retreads. Look aroung the league and see examples of today's type of coaches. Belecheck is the exception.

Posted by: a7181945 | December 28, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

McNabb, is by far the best QB we have. The Skins should retain him and let him compete with everyone during OTAs, training camp and preseason.
The Shannys need to learn how to properly manage players. They need to stop the press leaks and throwing their players under the bus. They also need to be flexible - tailer your system to the talent you have instead of asking your talent to change they way they have played their entire pro career.
I was psyched when we got Shanny but alas, I see no promise of improvement next year if Shanny continues to in charge of personnel. Offensively, Shanny would rather keep Galloway over Devin Thomas. Thomas may have been a head case but had much more upside than Galloway. What about playing Dockery? No way Kory Lichtensteiger is better than Dockery. Not playing our best players baffles me. Our top 10 rated defense is last in the league because we changed to a 3-4. With our glaring OL needs, I am not sure we'll be able to land the talent to improve defensively. They should switch back to a 4-3 and get Haynesworth to play or make him miserable. Do not cut or trade him a way for no value. He's paid for so use him or abuse him.
In the end, I think this will be Shannys last year with the Skins. I just don't see us moving in the right direction.

Posted by: neil64 | December 28, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Now McNabb smells the money,no one else will pay that much for a loser.he and his agent know he's slow and older.

Posted by: dcg326 | December 28, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Year after year, season after season, the Washington Redskins are the best reason to be a soccer fan.

Posted by: hofbrauhausde | December 28, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

6 wins better then 4 like last year.

Posted by: dcg326 | December 28, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Best to trade Albert and Donovan and anybody else that Shanahan knows won't play next year, and do it ASAP.

This lets everybody move on (including Donovan) and start fresh. More smiles in the locker room, less negative chattering over the airwaves.

Oh and while you doing that Mike, please look as hard at Haslett's performance as at anybody's else.

Posted by: ACounter | December 28, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Atleast the Shanahan's can convince some dummies that they are telling the truth. For all of you.... I have some farm land in the swamp that you can buy for a very low price.......

McNabb will come back to stick it to the Redskins for our lying !@# Shanahan.......

Posted by: punchdaclock | December 28, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Do you know where all of this soap opera crap is coming from? Drum roll please - ESPN980 owned by.... you guessed it... our man... marketing mogul... Dan Snyder.

Dan, I know you want to make money anyway you can, but this festering wound has got to stop. Players should earn the right to have a radio show by how well they play football and support the team.

Keep all the BS about politics and money downtown.

Posted by: jeffroski | December 28, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

F DA GMEN and F the Dramma. This is football. U know the whole indoor facility thing makes you think with the game being posponed cause of a game. Mabee all teams should have to practice outdoors in the elements so that we don't have all these Puuu sys scared to play in the snow. We all know that the best back yard games are in the snow. WTF

Posted by: PASkinsFan82 | December 28, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

F DA GMEN and F the Dramma. This is football. U know the whole indoor facility thing makes you think with the game being posponed cause of a game. Mabee all teams should have to practice outdoors in the elements so that we don't have all these Puuu sys scared to play in the snow. We all know that the best back yard games are in the snow. WTF

Posted by: PASkinsFan82 | December 28, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

mcnabb = over the hill and in denial

Posted by: hessone

hessone= hater bloger who wishes he was half the man mcnabb is.

Posted by: ged0386 | December 28, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

McNubb Returns. McNabb opens his mouth.

When Donovan McNabb was a Filthydelphia Iggle, I called him McNubb. When he signed with the Redskins, I gave him the respect of time and called him McNabb.

Now that he is supporting his loose cannon agent and has documented an inability to man up and to run an offense as it was designed, he is officially "McNubb" again.

Let's dispense with the platitudes. A 34 year old quarterback may have grown comfortable in an offense, but unless his intelligence has been oversold, he should be able to master a new playbook and show improvement over the course of the season.

Unfortunately, McNubb didn't improve. The Redskins lost more games with him at the helm and has created more touchdowns for the opposing team than he's thrown in a game.

Need I remind you that McNubb didn't know overtime rules and several times this year has demonstrated poor on-field judgement when it comes to sliding, going out of bounds, or tossing passes right to defenders instead of throwing the ball away.

Rex Grossman is not a top half quarterback - but he has demonstrated that he understands this offense. I say this because there are plays and open receivers that he is finding that McNubb never found. And while Grossman is merely adequate, this offense apparently doesn't need more than that to run it - afterall, Matt Schaub in Houston is a fairly mediocre quarterback and thrived in this system.

So what we must do is to remove McNubb who has demonstrated in his career inconsistency that leads to choking in big games. He freelances rather than works through his progressions. He telegraphs his plays. And while his leadership on the field was a breath of fresh air after that wuss Campbell, it became apparent that even leadership wasn't enough to overcome quarterback stupidity and head up the arse.

In this off season we should address offensive and defensive line issues first and then add a journeyman backup quarterback to support Grossman. McNubb should be allowed to exit immediately and if possible, getting a draft pick for him.

Posted by: laserwizard | December 28, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

One Word - DIVA

Posted by: Capitalist-1 | December 28, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Please answer this please: why did they sign McNabb in first place for a short period of time and bench him? Didn't they get to evaluate him and determine his capacity?

Posted by: colonfr2002 | December 28, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Answer this please: why did they sign McNabb in first place for a short period of time and bench him? Didn't they get to evaluate him and determine his capacity?

Posted by: colonfr2002 | December 28, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Why do you all think that McNabb is really pressed when it comes to the money. Think about that huge contract he signed in Philly I believe 50 million, didn't he play the entire contract, add to it another 16 million for this year and at worst 3.5 million next year. Let's add in all his other money he has gotten from the soup commercials to the Bank of America he did with Ovechkin. Face it peeps McNabb is PAID and I doubt he is pressed for some large contract. I think he is a prima donna that finally is exposed. But in the end who really knows?????

Posted by: RussPenmanIII | December 28, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Why would Andy Reid, the only current coach who has won more games than anyone else except Bill Belechick trade his quarterback to a team within his division if he felt the quarterback had anything left in his tank?

Look at Reid's record for getting rid of former star players and you will see that he got rid of them on the downside of their careers and not one of them the past ten years performed at anything other than a mediocre level. McNabb's best days are behind him which is usually where he throws passes to his receivers when he doesn't thrown them into the ground.

As to McNabb holding any grudge against the Shanahan's, well, good luck with that because McNabb still brings up being booed when he was drafted twelve years ago and is still bothered by it. He is past his prime and is not a leader.

Posted by: mjkoch* | December 28, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

It would appear that neither McNabb nor the Redskins have yet figured out why the Eagles were so quick to get rid of him! Like perhaps he was and is well over his prime and someone else got stuck with the deal.

Posted by: KBlit | December 28, 2010 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Assuming your quotes are accurate, I'm surprised by Donovan's poor grammar.

Posted by: rperrone | December 28, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Assuming your quotes are accurate, I'm surprised by Donovan's poor grammar.

Posted by: rperrone | December 28, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Fact is, the guy can't play. So who cares? He's a passive-aggressive cry-baby who isn't happy with the extra 3.15 million they payed him to keep his trap shut. Everyone needs to get a grip and realize they are trying to be competitive at every position. McNabb wasn't getting it done and the Redskins are willing to admit they wasted a 2nd rounder this year and 3rd or 4th next year on him and move on. Everyone else needs to admit it too.

Posted by: washinFLA | December 28, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

McNabb may be the most star-crossed athlete of the past decade. Drama seems to follow him.

I'd like to echo a previous poster: trust the Shanahans at your own risk. The aftermath of the Detroit benching should be seen as a warning.

McNabb's performance has been poor. And he has been too disingenuous to a fault. His days are numbered here and it appears to me he's attempting to stay in Washington to maximize his income if there is a "next season".

But for those Redskins who think geting rid of McNabb will solve the Redskink's problems need to realize the "cancer" in the locker room is not the Q.B.

The "cancer" is the same as it's been for a decade: the Redskin organization itself. The bringing in of over-the-hill veterans. The hiring of over-the-hill coaches.

Shanahan has two rings. But what has he accomplished since Elway retired? He's been living off those laurels for years. He thought he was coach for life in Denver until the Broncos fired him. He was fire for a reason.

McNabb had a wonderful resume, everything but a ring. Why was Andy reid so willing to trade him to a team in his own division.

The Redskins needed to clean house, but they tried to rebuild without the pains of rebuilding. They brought in a damaged coach and a damaged franchise QB. Look at the results.

The Eagles and Patriots have gone through radical personnel changes over the last couple of years and this year they both won their divisions. Every now and then they go out on a limb and make a flashy FA signing (Moss and T.O), but they've never built their entire organizational philosophy around the signing of high-profile FAs like the Redskins have.

Posted by: MD_Eagles_Fan | December 28, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

four words 'who the hell cares' - football is over hyped and redskins stink

Posted by: hemisphere | December 28, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Lot's of denial here. Grossman is adequate? Knows how to run the offense? 19 for 39? One TD and a FG (half of their points) because Gerrard might be a worse qb than Grossman? I'm not getting it. If McNabb can't run the offense with no personnel, and Grossman can't run the offense with no personnel, then why is it the quarterback? And if the personnel is no excuse, then is it the offense? Ask yourselves, is this a good offense? Or is it a good offense because Houston scores a lot of points, with the top receiver, a top RB, and a very good qb and oline? Because I'm not seeing this wonderful offense working here. But hey, it's all McNabb's fault, of course. Can't be the offense, personnel, or God forbid, coaching.

One more thing: in 11 years in Philly, not once was McNabb ever criticized or suspected of not practicing hard, being out of shape, not knowing the offense, etc. Even after they traded him, when most teams will badmouth former players as unnamed sources, nothing was heard. Now you hear these things about McNabb while he was in Philly, but only from the DC area. Hmmm, I wonder who these sources are? Have fun stinking up the joint for the next few years of the Shanahan show!

Posted by: mjc12 | December 28, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

"It takes about two years for a qb to grasp a new system.". You know who said that? Old man Shanny himself. So, why does the Grossman look like a genius? He's had two years in the system. Not to mention that they simplifies the offense for him and took Donovan's suggestions. So you have a future HOF QB bumping heads with some daddy's boy who has never taken a snap on the field in his life.

Sorry, I take Donovan over this nobody Kyle any day.

Posted by: FtballGirl31 | December 28, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

"It takes about two years for a qb to grasp a new system.". You know who said that? Old man Shanny himself. So, why does the Grossman look like a genius? He's had two years in the system. Not to mention that they simplifies the offense for him and took Donovan's suggestions. So you have a future HOF QB bumping heads with some daddy's boy who has never taken a snap on the field in his life.

Sorry, I take Donovan over this nobody Kyle any day.

Posted by: FtballGirl31 | December 28, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

The Skins are in a tough spot, they can't rely on Grossman or Beck, will there be a good QB available with the 13th or 14th pick in the 2011 draft?

Will there be any FA QB's available if CBA is not reached in March 2011 and if so who would want to sign with the disfunctional Redskins?

Which team(s)would want to trade draft picks for McNabb and pick up the money due on his contract. It appears that McNabb has the short end of the deal but I think both parties will suffer in a divorce.

If the skins can't trade away McNabb do not be shocked if decide to keep him, because they are not going to cut him. What a mess!!

This is a nice article by Jemele Hill (ESPN)called 'McNabb should set an Agenda."

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/commentary/news/story?id=5963154

Posted by: 70chiponwhite | December 28, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

mjc12 makes some excellent points. There was a very vocal minority of Philly fans,led by some sports-talk radio jock who depised McNabb, who were super critical of McNabb.

Why did the entire Philly stadium give the man a standing ovation upon McNabb's return?

Reid, unlike the Shanahan's tailored the Eagles offense to capitalize McNabb's improvisational skills, just like he's tailored the Eagles offense for Vick's. A good coach puts his players in the best position to win.

McNabb's has never been considered a super accurate passer. Anyone who's seen him over the past 11 years could see that. Were the Shanahans blind? For offenses genuises why couldn't they see that McNabb wasn't perfect for their "system".

And by the way, how's that "system" worked for the past years? Lot's of Houston and denver Super Bowls?

Redskins fans, you may be getting duped by the Shanahan PR team. McNabb, like Haynesworth, is not the problem here.

Posted by: MD_Eagles_Fan | December 28, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

I don't blame McNabb. I blame Dan Snyder for trading all those draft picks and signing him.

Posted by: RalphZero | December 28, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

From here it looks like Donovan is the only party who is clear and makes sense.

Everyone else is dancing.

Bottom line. After two shabby outings by Rex I think the Redskins have a QB in McNabb.

The teams real problems are numerous:

Desperate need for better OL and a Rush. There has been little or no pressure on opposing QBs by this crowd.

Better conditioning. Many of the injuries plaguing the team this year could be attributed to very poor conditioning.

Better tackling. Where did the skins get this idea that you can tackle someone without wrapping them up. Too many games this year, too many missed tackles.

Less strutting after a "good" play! I have seen the celebrations for a tackle cause the Defense to be late getting signals and setting up for the next play.

Catch the *%$#@ ball.

An article after last Sunday's victory noted that Hazlett came up with some new wrinkles for blitzing in the 2nd half! Where were the wrinkles for the entire season??

With Snyder not a factor, I give the skins no less than 4 years to make the playoffs. With Snyder making Football decisions, forget it!

Posted by: 15of18 | December 28, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

I don't trust either of the Shanahans to be truthful about what they tell their players or what they tell the media--maybe because of the whole nepotism thing. Either one will always cover for the other, whether the other is right or wrong.

Posted by: CAmira5 | December 28, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

17 10
redskins
day after tomorrow

go there for a 25er

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLxblDtFqc8&feature=player_embedded

Posted by: John_Chas_Webb | December 28, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Riggo2 wrote: Nabb says " I don't see nothing wrong with my agents comments."
( the word is "anything" Don, not "nothing" )

With all the (oh, so cutely disguised) obscene and truly illiterate and ignorant writing in these comments, all you can think of to criticize is "nothing" for "anything"? Amazing!

Considering that half the posters on this thread don't seem able to write English, I'm surprised that they can actually *read* it. What a bunch of losers!

(And by the way, there should be an apostrophe in "agents"; I'll leave it to you to figure out where.)

Posted by: jaded3 | December 28, 2010 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Fat Albert had to pass a cardio test running sprints before he was allowed on the practice field.

Same deal for McNabb. Make him pass a playbook test...formations, progressions, reads, check offs, etc. Dr. Kyle can administer the exam.

That should keep Donovan off the practice field until 2014, lol.

Posted by: howjensen | December 28, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Riggo2 wrote: Nabb says " I don't see nothing wrong with my agents comments."
( the word is "anything" Don, not "nothing" )

With all the (oh, so cutely disguised) obscene and truly illiterate and ignorant writing in these comments, all you can think of to criticize is "nothing" for "anything"? Amazing!

Considering that half the posters on this thread don't seem able to write English, I'm surprised that they can actually *read* it. What a bunch of losers!

(And by the way, there should be an apostrophe in "agents"; I'll leave it to you to figure out where.)

Posted by: jaded3 | December 28, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Fat Albert had to pass a cardio test running sprints before he was allowed on the practice field.

Same deal for McNabb. Make him pass a playbook test...formations, progressions, reads, check offs, etc. Dr. Kyle can administer the exam.

That should keep Donovan off the practice field until 2014, lol.

Posted by: howjensen | December 28, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

It is disappointing that McNabb shows such an aversion to confronting "the Man" about the disrespect he's been shown by Mike and son Lil' Kiley. That said, McNabb has finally "kinda" spoken up and -- who knows? -- may end up staying here and pushing out Family Shanahan.

IMO, instead of mouthing off, McNabb's agent should have put more energy into negotating better contract extension terms for his client. As we understand it, the Skins control Donovan until next year, precluding his ability to shop his talents around.

As for McNabb's grammar, I think the Post writers have been precluded from correcting quotes (unless they indicate they have done so) ever since a dustup at the paper years aho involving Wilbon's correction of an interviewee's ebonics.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | December 28, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

jimmydeanroundsausages: The team sucks and the drama is 80% of the reason. This professional journalism is what will make the Danny change his philosophy and finally decide to have a real organization. Until then all of the nonsense that goes on in Ashburn needs to see the light of day so things can change.

Ditto!! At last an adult speaks.

Posted by: lacy41 | December 28, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Lets just hope the Vikes or Cards are dumb enough to give up a draft pick for McNabb. There is nothing this team needs more than draft choices. It seemed pretty clear Sunday that youth is really needed for this club.

Posted by: skins91r | December 28, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

For all of you people who thought Andy Reid let McNabb go because he was done or because he's a Genius given what Vick has done, you don't know Eagles FB.

1. Andy would have loved to keep McNabb, because he was NOT washed up(3,500 yds: 22 TDs, 10 INTs, 92.9 QB Rating in 14 games last year) but the fan base (ignorant as they are) had fallen in love with the backup and the pressure was on to either get rid of McNabb or get rid of Andy Reid. Since Reid makes the personnel decisions, it was a no-brainer.

2. Also, it is the Eagles' MO to trade players when they have 2-3 good years left in them so they can get the most value out of them before they are actually washed up.

3. The proof that Reid is not the genius Redskins fans and sports talking heads are trying to make him out to be, is that he gave Kolb a $40M contract in the summer to be his team's starter.

4. He IS smart enough to know when he's made a mistake and quickly put Vick in when he got the chance, then stuck with him despite more whining by Eagles fans. For some reason the whining has stopped.

5. He's also smart enough to know that the ever desperate Redskins would give him more than anyone else for #5 and even though he was giving a team in his division decent QB, he knew he was taking much needed draft picks away from a team with no weapons who would be adjusting to a new coach and a new offense.

The right thing for the Redskins to do would have been to use an offense that their HoF QB would be most comfortable in, draft a QB either in 2011 or 2012 so that he is ready once McNabb is done. That's called building a franchise. Who would have thought that Shannahan's first year record would be 2-3 games WORSE than Zorn's?

Posted by: Kolchak | December 28, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

I don't think we'll ever know for sure what went down this year with Shanny, Jr., and McNabb. First, who traded for him? I've heard (from Riggo) that The Danny traded for him and neither Shanahan wanted him. I've heard (from a WaPo column) that Mike traded for him and Kyle didn't want him.

To me, the simple explanation is this. Shanahan traded for McNabb thinking he was getting a veteran QB to run his offense. McNabb has played his entire career in an offense that Andy Reid and his assistants tailored to fit his skill set. Reid's system (short passing, crossing routes, lots of draws and screens) is close to the pure Bill Walsh West Coast system. Shanahan's (especially Shanny, Jr's.) is much more like the old Sid Gillman power running/vertical pass system (run to set up the pass, passing reads go from deep to short). Kyle saw his (and Dad's) system produce the #1 passing offense in the league last year. McNabb knew from experience that the Philly way works. I'm guessing these two guys have butted heads all year, with Kyle just wanting McNabb to run the offense the way it's drawn up, and McNabb wanting changes that fit the way he knows how to play.

Hey, it's my story and it's as good as anybody else's who isn't named Shanahan or McNabb.

So, bad fit. Deal McNabb to a team like MN, where he'll light it up with Harvin, Rice, Shiancoe, and AP (if they keep the West Coast), and bring in a rookie that K. Shanahan can "raise" in his system. Too bad the whole mess had to cost all those draft picks.

Posted by: Charles_Day@comcast.net | December 28, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Who would have thought that Shannahan's first year record would be 2-3 games WORSE than Zorn's?


Posted by: Kolchak | December 28, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

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Anyone who knows anything about football. Zorn and V.C. ran the team into the ground. Now Shanahan is being blasted for trying to pick up the pieces?? hilarious. McNabb is done!!! I don't need the Coaches, the media, or any analyst to tell me otherwise. I've seen every snap McNabb has taken as a Redskin and he has fallen short in a big way. You can run your smack all day long but the fact is no one is going to convince me I didn't see something I saw with my own eyes. According to you Reid gets a pass for covering his own ass trading McNabb for a guy who isn't even starting but Shanahan should be fired for benching him. It's pathetic how many fans here are pissed at a coach for holding players accountable. Only in D.C.

Posted by: skins91r | December 28, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

McNabb really comes across as a passive-agressive pussyfooter. If you don't like something just say so instead of agreeing with your trash talking agent while proclaiming your love DC.

On the other hand, the Shanahans must be terrible communicators. They come across as deceptive and disingenuous. Maybe they are but no way should you allow yourself to be seen in that light.

Posted by: Natmeister | December 28, 2010 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Trade and/ or give McScabb to Oakland this off season. And call it a day.

Posted by: Defund_NPR | December 28, 2010 5:38 PM | Report abuse

I'd keep McNabb and Haynesworth over Kareem Moore who I think has been more detrimental to the team than the both of them. If Kareem Moore stays on the team, I got 2 season tickets to give away and I'll throw in 10 bucks.

Posted by: getitritegov | December 28, 2010 5:51 PM | Report abuse

Just cut McNabb and move on. This so-called "marriage" has been a disaster since the Detroit debacle. Both parties have way too much baggage to try to reconcile. End it now!!

Posted by: Neisha_H | December 28, 2010 5:55 PM | Report abuse

In this soap opera, four is a crowd; make that five since Danny boy never wants to left out - and shouldn't be since he's the producer.

Posted by: wp318676 | December 28, 2010 6:01 PM | Report abuse

What is wrong with people!!!!!!!!!! Don't you understand people that the agent WORKS and is PAID by McNabb???

If you are paying someone to represent you doesn't it make sense that whatever comes out of their mouth is what you want them to SAY???I don't understand why people are confused...

McNabb doesn't want to say things directly so he employs his agent to do so...just as when he is negotiating a salary...Let's not make this any more complicated than it is...and it is not complicated at all...

All this will be history soon as McNabb will not be a Redskin come next season....

Posted by: pentagon40 | December 28, 2010 6:02 PM | Report abuse

Having listened to Donavan's show today, I did not hear Donavan say he supports his agent's "fiery" statements. This is yet another example of the press posting misleading lead ins to get attention and have readers open the article on the internet. Bloggers and writers get "points" for each blog or post that is opened on the internet. While Donavan gave his usual politicaly correct answer, he said he generally supports his agent and respects his thoughts (i.e. same as when you disagree with your boss, but respect him)

Posted by: bringbackimus | December 28, 2010 6:07 PM | Report abuse

'Kolchak' has the right analysis. A really good coach adjusts his team style to his players, not the other way around. Prime example is Joe Gibbs. We'll all have to tune in next year for year 2 of "As the Redskins Turn (starring the Shanahan clan)". The radio guys who ask if you are a Redskin fan or McNabb fan are missing the point. We want our Redskins to win, and at least some of us thought McNabb gave us the best chance, given the time, or if Shanahan had adjusted to his talent. Same to be said for Haynesworth. As a result they'll both be contributing some where else, just like all the other ex-Redskins who 'didn't fit the scheme', but found success elsewhere.

Posted by: bfjam | December 28, 2010 6:16 PM | Report abuse

I have spoken once before on here about #5 and I will once again.I told you skins fans that he will throw the ball into the ground and behind receivers or over their heads.He will throw other players under the bus and present in a way (in his mind)that it is construtive criticism and he is just a team guy.He's not he's a diva who thinks he a lot better than he really is or ever was.He had some really good players surrounding him for a long time.B. Westbrook bailed his butt out so many times it's incalculable,he was a TRULY great player unlike McPuke.I said it many times before and will say it again #5 will never ever win a Superbowl.I have watched every game he has played in the NFL and called for his trade since the 2006 season.The only reason he says he wants to stay in Washington is because he KNOWS no team in the league is going to pay him what the skins are on the hook for next year if they keep him.Get rid of him now and get what you can because this drama will go on for as long as he is around. P.S.Maybe that kid in Oakland is better than everyone thought after all at least he ain't a WHINER like McPUKE.

Posted by: biggdogg1 | December 28, 2010 6:28 PM | Report abuse

I have spoken once before on here about #5 and I will once again.I told you skins fans that he will throw the ball into the ground and behind receivers or over their heads.He will throw other players under the bus and present in a way (in his mind)that it is construtive criticism and he is just a team guy.He's not he's a diva who thinks he a lot better than he really is or ever was.He had some really good players surrounding him for a long time.B. Westbrook bailed his butt out so many times it's incalculable,he was a TRULY great player unlike McPuke.I said it many times before and will say it again #5 will never ever win a Superbowl.I have watched every game he has played in the NFL and called for his trade since the 2006 season.The only reason he says he wants to stay in Washington is because he KNOWS no team in the league is going to pay him what the skins are on the hook for next year if they keep him.Get rid of him now and get what you can because this drama will go on for as long as he is around. P.S.Maybe that kid in Oakland is better than everyone thought after all at least he ain't a WHINER like McPUKE.

Posted by: biggdogg1 | December 28, 2010 6:28 PM | Report abuse

Of course McNabb wants to be here. He can sit on the bench and earn $16,000,000 for running the scout team. Are you kidding me? He supports his agent, of course he does because his agent wouldn't release the statement without his say-so. Of course he supports his agent because he got top 5 money for a 26 rated QB. Of course he supports his agent because his agent is trying to move his half-axx efforts to another team with the same contract. Of course he supports his agent because without him, he would have been washed out of the league a long time ago like Jake Delome - essentially the same type of player. Trade him for a #5 pick and be done with it. Then, put Fat Albert on special teams and every defensive play. Screw them both.

Posted by: KDSmallJr | December 28, 2010 7:05 PM | Report abuse

I still say having McNabb sit makes sense if the idea is to evaluate talent for next year. Grossman has been inconsistent, but has shown he can make some plays... Reminds me of the way McNabb played most of the season.

I agree with the way the Hog Heaven stuff posted by Sweetlou starts out above, but I disagree with the conclusion.

The team still needs to work on the lines, adding pass rushers on defense and adding more young quality offensive linemen. Only after that's done does it make sense to look for a quarterback and receiver (and I think a running back would also be a good idea).

Signing expensive defensive backs and an expensive QB as free agents, especially QBs who aren't much better than McNabb or Grossman, frankly makes no sense to me at all. It's something Cerrato would have done, which is why I'm glad he's gone.

Build through the draft. Be patient. Get younger. Start building on the lines first. That's the way to turn the franchise around.

Posted by: gophercrow | December 28, 2010 7:10 PM | Report abuse

McNabb....go home and play for your home town team who needs you...and leave these dysfunctional cripples....doing their DEADteam walking for the rest of this decade

LEAVE this totally IRRELEVANT loser team outside the beltway and beyond.....

Posted by: GRIMReaper55 | December 28, 2010 7:39 PM | Report abuse

I'm a teacher, if my students fail to succeed, I have to change my method of teaching based on data/assessments . If the Redskins are not succeeding (failing to win games and discord among players) in the Shanahans' schemes, who do we blame, the teachers/coaches or the learners/players?

How is a professional football team any different from public school, college, or even the work world?

Fire the Shanahans!

Posted by: lacy41 | December 28, 2010 7:41 PM | Report abuse

For us 'skins fans, the season is just about to begin. Once these good teams get done with their playoffs and superbowl, we can start dealing with the intrigue of draft picks and free agents. Donovan needs to chill until then. His diatribes, whether sour grapes or gospel truth can wait until February, when we'll all be ready for a large helping of talk radio Redskins style!!!

Posted by: DontGetIt | December 28, 2010 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Washington Redskins for Dummies

Section 23: Glossary

Daniel Snyder:
A rich mentally challenged Jewish boy who was given loads of money to start a marketing business after dropping out of the University of Maryland after flunking his classes using millions in seed money handed to him by his Dad. He used the money to hire marketing professionals who were far smarter than he was. After making millions on the strength of other people's efforts and abilities, he ruthlessly pushed aside the son of beloved Redskins owner Jack Kent Cooke, jacked up prices and over-commercialized the team, abusing and financially raping it's fans year after year. Without caring at all about the fans or players' feelings or morale, he gave absurd salaries to has-been players often from rival teams oblivious to the fact that we cheered AGAINST those very same players the year before. Snyder is today credited with single-handedly destroying the character, spirit, and integrity of what was once one of the NFL's proudest and most respected franchises.

Donovan McNabb: Loudmouth overpaid quarterback from Redskins key rival Philadelphia brought in by Snyder as part of his plan to get revenge on fans by destroying the team while picking the fans' pockets to buy ot
Still more overpaid, locker-room demoralizing players.

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Posted by: dstafford2 | December 28, 2010 8:08 PM | Report abuse

Why is this still a major story? At this point, the Redskins have a disgruntled third string quarterback who won't be on the team next season. Apparently Donovan didn't get the message that the coaches don't want him.

Imagine a company where there's an employee who isn't performing . Management gives him a bunch of mundane assignments to make him unhappy so he'll move on. The employee walks into his bosses office and proclaims: "I'm willing to stay, but things are gonna have to change around here." Donovan's that employee.

Posted by: randysbailin | December 28, 2010 8:11 PM | Report abuse

If the Shanahans had anything like the leadership skills required to coach successfully in the NFL, this would not be happening. First, they would have recognized that McNabb was a six-time Pro Bowl quarterback, and there really wasn't anything wrong with his delivery. They would have left his footwork alone. I think that might have improved his play, old muscle memory being as strong as it is.
If, by late in the season, they were dissatisfied with his play, they could have handled his benching differently. McNabb had signed an extension, but he was nicked up. He could have been benched because there was no point in risking aggravating injuries; that would have been a credible reason. Then any difficulties he had with the Shanahans could have been dealt with after the season when reporters weren't at Redskins Park 24/7 looking for stories. Real coaches do this to minimize distractions for their teams and because they actually have respect for their players as human beings. The Shanahans need to be fired. They just aren't up to the job.

Posted by: amstphd | December 28, 2010 8:31 PM | Report abuse

So long as we're pushing the office analogy, we should also look at the other side of it. Suppose that Albert Einstein somehow gets a job at a modern tech firm. Then, because he hasn't had a chance to learn about web technology yet, or maybe he does poorly on one of his big-shot boss's toy projects, his boss demotes him to a position where he has no chance of advancing (because he doesn't have any real responsibilities anymore). It's not that the boss is wrong to do so, it's that it's an unbelievably unsympathetic thing to do.

I'm exaggerating to make a point, but the same sort of thing happens all the time, and it's not more fair in McNabb's case. Michael Jordan became one of basketball's greatest stars once he gave Doug Collins the boot.

For those that think that McNabb or his agent are going too far, he has the right (and obligation to his fans) to let his side of the story be known, especially if he has a legitimate excuse for poor play. If anyone is at fault, it's the coach for not acknowledging it for what it is and moving on. The Shanahans have been fiercely resistant so far.

randysbailin, if it seems like I've latched on to your posts, it's because your opinion is sensible, but I don't totally agree with it.

Posted by: Kboainim | December 28, 2010 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Looks like he has sealed his tenure with the Skins

Posted by: HLSHAP | December 28, 2010 10:55 PM | Report abuse

No surprise here. As an NFL team, the Redskins are a complete joke, from the owner, to the GM, the coach, and about 90% of the players, including McNabb. The team is just a money-making machine for Dan Snyder and that's all it ever will be as long as he is the owner. If you want to see actual professional football, watch some other NFL team. If you want a laugh, watch the Redskins and read the latest soap opera (oh, sorry, I mean sports) column in the Washington Post.

Posted by: Bob22003 | December 29, 2010 1:17 AM | Report abuse

Only losing teams have this type of McNabb problems. You never see this with winning teams. Patriots didn't miss a beat when they got rid of Moss. Pittsburgh kept going with their QB missing the initial games.

Posted by: fearturtle44 | December 29, 2010 8:18 AM | Report abuse

Sounds like a battle of egos between Kyle Shanahan and Donovan McNabb.

Guess who's going to win...

Shanahan will win because he's the coach's son, not because he has an ounce of football knowledge.

I guess the Redskins are set up, once again, to start from scratch.

Posted by: postfan1 | December 29, 2010 8:38 AM | Report abuse

Dear Mr. McNabb,
I know you like Washington. This town offers you great opportunities; however, the Redskins organization is dysfunctional so if you stay here they will ruin your career. Get on the first plane out of town and don't look back.

Posted by: YadaYada1 | December 29, 2010 8:50 AM | Report abuse

randysbailin, if it seems like I've latched on to your posts, it's because your opinion is sensible, but I don't totally agree with it.

Posted by: Kboainim | December 28, 2010 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Fair enough. We can agree to disagree.

Posted by: randysbailin | December 29, 2010 9:33 AM | Report abuse

Snyder couldn't pay me enough to coach or work in the front office of this franchise. Everyone who comes to work here leaves w/ his reputation diminished somewhat. Consider the list: Schottenheimer, Turner, Spurrier, Zorn, Shanahan (x2), Blatche, Bugel, Gibbs 2.0, Cerrato, Sherm Lewis, Gregg Williams.

Their reputations were diminished to a certain extent after having come in contact w/ this organization under its current ownership.

Posted by: randysbailin | December 29, 2010 9:41 AM | Report abuse


Only losing teams have this type of McNabb problems. You never see this with winning teams. Patriots didn't miss a beat when they got rid of Moss. Pittsburgh kept going with their QB missing the initial games.

Posted by: fearturtle44 | December 29, 2010 8:18 AM

While that may be true in general, the Skins had a winning record (4-3) before the first McNabb benching in the last 2 min of the Detroit game. Since then the Skins have gone 2-6 (both wins in OT), so it's tough to say that it didn't make a difference.

Posted by: Kboainim | December 29, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

randysballin: Snyder couldn't pay me enough to coach or work in the front office of this franchise. Everyone who comes to work here leaves w/ his reputation diminished somewhat. Consider the list: Schottenheimer, Turner, Spurrier, Zorn, Shanahan (x2), Blatche, Bugel, Gibbs 2.0, Cerrato, Sherm Lewis, Gregg Williams.

Their reputations were diminished to a certain extent after having come in contact w/ this organization under its current ownership.
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Kboainim: the Skins had a winning record (4-3) before the first McNabb benching in the last 2 min of the Detroit game. Since then the Skins have gone 2-6 (both wins in OT), so it's tough to say that it didn't make a difference.
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Good posts, I agree with both of you.

Posted by: lacy41 | December 29, 2010 11:04 AM | Report abuse

Everybody praises teams like the Pats and Eagles for having the stones to let go of franchise players. Nobody can disagree with the results either. Now that we have the kind of front office that is willing to make those types of moves we ridicule them. My thing about McNabb is this, he played himself out of the position. We didn't trade for him in hopes of him being a failure. Anytime Rex can step in without taking a snap in years and totally distinguish himself from McNabb then you can't ignore that. If we can get a pick for McNabb that would be the best thing for this franchise. No more band aids. I keep repeating that I feel we have several tradeable assets on this team like Mcnabb, Carter and Cooley.

Posted by: MaxnDC | December 29, 2010 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Everybody praises teams like the Pats and Eagles for having the stones to let go of franchise players. Nobody can disagree with the results either.

Posted by: MaxnDC | December 29, 2010 11:23 AM

Sure, but the reasons matter, because any jerk off the street can have the stones to release a player for no reason.

Besides, I take any news coming from Philly or NE with a grain of salt. The Eagles because they're division rivals, and the Pats because they got huge amounts of post-9/11 benefit of a doubt.

Posted by: Kboainim | December 29, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Mcnabb is our best quarterback, and I think the coaches got this one wrong. Rex's weak arm is an interception waiting happen for any playoff defense. Lots of time for a great secondary to get to his floaters.

Mcnabb has struggled so far and there is no denying that, but I think If Father Shanahan were the OC, Mcnabb would be learning the offense and the OC would make adjustments to play to the QB's strength. I think Kyle has some growing to do which is no sin.

I can't believe anyone thinks firing the coach is a good idea. I am so glad none of these impatient folks are the GM, but they do have allot in common with Snyder

Posted by: jjredskins | December 29, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

If the Shanahans had anything like the leadership skills required to coach successfully in the NFL, this would not be happening...Real coaches do this to minimize distractions for their teams and because they actually have respect for their players as human beings. The Shanahans need to be fired. They just aren't up to the job.

Posted by: amstphd | December 28, 2010

Last time I checked no coach is perfect, and no coach has won all their games. But the winningest coaches in NFL football make hard decisions which gain the respect of their players.

Facts: Haynesworth stepped on another players head and our owner gave him 100 million dollars and Shanny inherited his whinny butt. Fat A has never played to his potential and was a distraction to the team. THE MEDIA CREATED MOST OF THE DISTRACTION.

Shanny showed a lot of respect in hiring DM5 from another coach who didnt. DM5 was either unwilling to learn or unable to learn the offensive scheme that made Rex look the best he has his whole career.

Shanahan respects players that work hard...respect is giving a no name 150 pound Banks the opportunity to play. Respect is not limiting competition to just the linebacker position but to every position (such as qb). Respect is always reciprocated: the defensive players who were on the practice squad played their tails off to get a win last Sunday.

Shanahan's record speaks for itself, his winning percentage is 678 which is outstanding in the NFL. Is he perfect, no, but is it time to fire him, absolutely not.

Posted by: rodskin | December 29, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

McNabb needs to go elsewhere.. When the Skins got him I knew he would not be a good fit.. I mean why would a 4-12 team get a 34 yr old QB on the downside of his career?? Reid knew what he was doing.. All the Skins did was delay being a playoff ready team by another year. But it looks like Shanahan has the right idea now.. get rid of these over the hill guys like McNabb, Johnson, Hicks and Galloway and me guys like AH and start playing these young fired up types like Torain and Armstrong. Skins will need a franchise QB.. Luck would be the best but they we'll never get him. So look at Locker, Mallett or maybe Gabbert. Seems to me Grossman can start the year until new QB is ready

Posted by: sovine08 | December 29, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

As a long time Philadelphia Eagles' fan, I've watched in utter amazement Donovan McNabb's ability to twist innocent words around to make him appear to be both a martyr and a hero. Thus, I'd like to encourage Daniel Snyder and Mike Shannahan to allow him to stay in Washington as the Redskins' starting Quarterback so that the NFC East will continue to only have three legitimate contenders for the divisonal crown. What a laughing stock McNabb has become.

Posted by: throwaway1 | December 30, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

As a long time Philadelphia Eagles' fan, I've watched in utter amazement Donovan McNabb's ability to twist innocent words around to make him appear to be both a martyr and a hero. Thus, I'd like to encourage Daniel Snyder and Mike Shannahan to allow him to stay in Washington as the Redskins' starting Quarterback so that the NFC East will continue to only have three legitimate contenders for the divisonal crown. What a laughing stock McNabb has become.

Posted by: throwaway1 | December 30, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

HBCU Classics All-Americans

Offense:
QB Matthew Johnson, Bethune**
QB Stanley Jennings, Albany St**
RB Walter Sanders, St. Augustine
RB DeAngelo Branche, Norfolk St
RB Frank Warren, Grambling - broke Walter Payton's rushing records
WR Raymond Webber, UAPB
WR Ronnie Childs, Albany St
WR Lennel Elmore, SC State
OL David Mims, VA Union
OL Johnny Culbreath, SC State
OL Mike Mavromichalis, Albany St
OL Natiel Curry, Bethune
OL Josh Harrison, SC State

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Posted by: typrather | December 31, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Wow. There sure are a LOT of NFL experts out there. You would think that a team would be lining up at their collective doors to get a chance to hire them. NOT.
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S fo rthe article, I generally make it a rule not to trust agents. They are greedy little weasels who deserve to be o the extinction list. In this case, we have an agent who may or may not be honest dealing with a father-son team that have proven themselves to be self-serving dishonest liars. Their comments, both in the AH and DM situations have been proven to be dishonest.

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