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McNabb? Grossman? Campbell? You decide

By Washington Post editors

With Donovan McNabb struggling and a certain former Redskins QB winning three in a row for the Raiders, do you yearn for a change at the controls? Take our poll:

By Washington Post editors  | November 8, 2010; 12:00 PM ET
Categories:  Donovan McNabb, Rex Grossman  
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DMac. Given the state of talent on the offensive side of the ball, it would've been more of the same from JCamp. That being said, the Skins would've overpaid for McNabb if McNabb does not resign with the team.

Posted by: TWISI | November 8, 2010 12:07 PM | Report abuse

McNabb is better at feeling the pressure and avoiding the sack, so he's better suited to the atrocious O-line we have right now.

However, McNabb is also more fragile than Campbell, so we may very well see Grossman start a couple of games this year--I predict it won't be pretty.

In the end, McNabb may very well regret the effect this O-line ultimately has on his career, while Campbell gets rejuvinated in Oakland with a young, speedy group around him.

Posted by: Alan4 | November 8, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

However, McNabb is also more fragile than Campbell, so we may very well see Grossman start a couple of games this year--I predict it won't be pretty.

Posted by: Alan4 | November 8, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Wait, that can't be right! I thought he was just our '2-Minute Specialist'?

Posted by: monk811 | November 8, 2010 12:19 PM | Report abuse

I voted either Tony Banks, or Raphel Cherry...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 8, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

really??? jreid sux!!! no real "interest pieces" during the bye week or anything of substance and now this crab... really!!??

Posted by: jimmy_the_crickett | November 8, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Great poll you f_cking idiots, is this the best you dumb a$$es can do. I would love to know how much time JR spends at the park per week.

Keep up the great work and prey to god that Keim never starts up a redskins blog, because if he does this place would be a ghost town.

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 8, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

C'mon monk...really, dude? Maybe we could get 11 first rounders for Orakpo and 6 second rounders for for Landry...but why stop there? An entire draft class for AH? Maybe the Colts will take a unicorn that pisses diesel fuel straight up for Manning. Thoughts?

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 8, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

What exactly are you complaining about??? Usually when people DISCUSS things they make their point known.

By the way, I wouldn't settle for anthing less than 12 1st rounders for Orakpo, and I heard reports that the Colts will settle for a pink elephant that sh*ts ham sandwiches for Manning, get it right!!!

Posted by: monk811 | November 8, 2010 12:25 PM | Report abuse

All things considered Donovan, but the way DM5 and the rest of the offense has played so far, I think a more appropriate poll would be "Would you rather still have Campbell and the 2 draft picks than McNabb?"

Posted by: Rypien11 | November 8, 2010 12:25 PM | Report abuse

really??? jreid sux!!! no real "interest pieces" during the bye week or anything of substance and now this crab... really!!??

Posted by: jimmy_the_crickett | November 8, 2010 12:22 PM

In all fairness, JReid refused to put his name on this. It's posted by "By Washington Post editors".

Posted by: Alan4 | November 8, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

jason campbell has won how many games in almost 6 years as a starter?? LMAO DUDE IS A JOKE!! HOW MANY PLAYOFF GAMES LEAD A TEAM 2? HOW MANY HAS HE WON?? NOW HOW MANY HAVE MCNABB AND REX WON?? jason campbell will NEVER LEAD A TEAM TO THE PLAYOFFS LET ALONE A SUPERBOWL!! A REAL QB LIKE Aaron Rodgers had a worse OLINE than we did last season and STOMPED! jc is a get you bye QB not a STAR!! WE WOULD BE WORSE THAN THE COWGIRLS WITH THAT CHUMP STARTING FOR US!!!

Posted by: warriorking1112 | November 8, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Beck. Serious answer.

He looked good in the pre-season.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | November 8, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

I wish we would have landed Randy Moss he already has more receiving TD's then our WR's!! He could have only Helped this team what did we have to lose?? Same with T.O. WE SHOULD HAVE SIGNED HIM! HE COULD HAVE ONLY HELPED THIS TEAM!!!! He should of had that bum Devin Thomas's roster spot! I wish we would cut Roydell Williams and Give T-Austin a Shot to SHINE!!
jason campbell is a football GOD WE SHOULD HAVE ASKED FOR a 1st and a 3rd for him LMAO LMAO SINCE HE LEAD US TO MANY SUPER BOWLS AND MADE JOE GIBBS RETIRE A CHAMP AND DIDNT EMBARRASS SAINT JOE AT ALL!!!

Posted by: warriorking1112 | November 8, 2010 12:33 PM | Report abuse

McNabb all of the way. They should re-sign him now while they can get him for a bargain price.

I remember being very happy about one of the things that Shanahan not too long after he started with the Redskins. He was talking about adjusting the scheme to fit his talent. I don't think he has done that. Hopefully, the bye week has given them a chance to review what changes they can make to better utilize their players.

For McNabb, this means they have got to use his mobility better. I see what defenses are doing, lining up guys wide to take out the roll outs. To counter this they may want to use an unbalanced line and two tightends. This would also give them the ability to use either of their tightends in the passing game. McNabb is at his best when he has the latitude to improvise. I think they need to take away those timing routes and loosen it up a little for McNabb. The receivers need to be able to make adjustments to a QB on the run which might mean breaking off their routes. I'd also like to see some bunch formations so McNabb can roll to that side and know he has multiple receiving options on that side. This will also soften up those two deep zones defenses are playing. Last but not least, there should be some designed running plays for McNabb because that threat has to be in the back of the defense's mind the whole time.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 8, 2010 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Reid needs always Depressing about the Beloved REDSKINS!! Next he will be sayying we should of kept the future HOF'er gunslinger jason campbell(LMAO) and shipped a bum joke of a QB Mcnabb to Qakland for a 1st rd pick!! LMAO LMAO jason campbell LMAO Dude tries to hard to be Jesus!! HTTR!!!

Posted by: warriorking1112 | November 8, 2010 12:01 PM

Called it, except for the trade and the 'Jesus' part.


Always thought of Campbell in the Dalai Lama or Ghandi mode rather than Jesus.

Posted by: RedDMV | November 8, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

is this a serious question?

oh, and to reiterate what's wrong with this blog, the racist moron known as dealer1:

Diesel44, I love you too. But don't bring the dog killing crap over here. I'm not white. Take that shti to people who value dog's life more than humans.

Posted by: dealer1 | November 7, 2010 6:40 PM | Report abuse"

Shame on you dealer. Your statement is offensive and ignorant and typical. Probably why the good guys like dcsween, NateinPDX, SkinsFansinKanehoem et al are rarely seen anymore, certainly why I am. Nice to see what used to be a fun place to talk Skins has been overrun by biggoted blowhards who don't know the first thing about football.

I never thought I'd say this, but I miss the days of LaCanfora.

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | November 8, 2010 12:38 PM | Report abuse

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/cardinals/articles/2010/11/07/20101107heat-index-cardinals-future-quarterback.html

Arizona Cardinals should
make play for McNabb as QB
next season

by Bob McManaman - Nov. 7, 2010 04:15 PM
The Arizona Republic


The Cardinals have reached the midpoint of their season, but all The Heat Index keeps getting grilled about by friends and
acquaintances are questions about next
season.

And it pretty much has been the same thing:

Who's going to be the Cardinals' starting
quarterback in 2011? Assuming there isn't a lockout, of course.

Agreed, we're getting a little ahead of
ourselves here. The Cardinals, after all, still have half a season left. Anything can
happen.

But don't think for a moment that coach Ken Whisenhunt and the rest of the Cardinals'
brain trust haven't been looking ahead,
game-planning a strategy to upgrade the
position.

Without a sure thing at quarterback, the
Cardinals not only risk losing star receiver Larry Fitzgerald to free agency in a couple expires after this season, and considering the problems he's having with coach Mike Shanahan, there's no reason to think he would agree to a multiyear deal to stay there.

Shanahan benched McNabb for Rex
Grossman last week against the Lions, first questioning McNabb's ability to run the team's two-minute offense, then saying the decision was more of a "cardiovascular" concern about his quarterback, who turns 34 this month.

McNabb, as usual, handled everything with
class. That's his style. Despite six Pro Bowl selections and guiding his former team, the Philadelphia Eagles, to five NFC
Championship Games, he has taken far too
much grief for his accomplishments.

That's another reason the Cardinals should
sign McNabb: He's the ultimate good guy
who always will take the high road and say
and do the right things.


Posted by: 4thFloor | November 8, 2010 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Where was the option for Colt Brennan?

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 8, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

MCNABB OVER jason "jesus" campbell and DEF over Rex Grossman!!! c'mon the 1st play Rex with in the game and he BLEW IT it looked like jason campbell was back playing!! We should of kept the future HOF'er gunslinger jason campbell(LMAO) and shipped a bum joke of a QB Mcnabb to Qakland for a 1st rd pick!! LMAO LMAO jason campbell LMAO Dude tries to hard to be Jesus!! HTTR!!! Get over him He NEVER DID CRAP AS A STARTER IN 5 YEARS HERE! HE was a WASTE OF A 1st rd pick!! ORAKPO IS GONNA MAUL VICK LIKE A PITBULL ON MON!!! HTTR!! THE REDSKINS ARE GONNA SHUTOUT THOSE F eAGLES AND PUT MAKE THEM LEAVE IN BODY BAGs!!!

Posted by: warriorking1112 | November 8, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

I really don't like any of those choices. Draft a young mobile quarterback with a strong arm nexr yrs. J. Campbell, wasn't wanted, D. McNabb, will never take you back to the promiseland @ R.Grossman can't get out of his own way. I don't know enough about Beck, but, when your bringing in someone off the street, well, what does that tell you???

Posted by: eztiger44 | November 8, 2010 12:44 PM | Report abuse

I too say start Beck the final 8 games if McNabb doesn't play past this year....

We'll atleast get a better 1st round draft pick to spend on a Guard. The Brother from Florida whose brother was a 1st rounder this year....Pouncey....

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 8, 2010 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Where was the option for Colt Brennan?

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 8, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Gold, Jerry.

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | November 8, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Reid needs always Depressing about the Beloved REDSKINS!! Next he will be sayying we should of kept the future HOF'er gunslinger jason campbell(LMAO) and shipped a bum joke of a QB Mcnabb to Qakland for a 1st rd pick!! LMAO LMAO jason campbell LMAO Dude tries to hard to be Jesus!! HTTR!!!

Posted by: warriorking1112 | November 8, 2010 12:01 PM

Called it, except for the trade and the 'Jesus' part.


Always thought of Campbell in the Dalai Lama or Ghandi mode rather than Jesus.

Posted by: RedDMV | November 8, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

lol its messed up but im gonna say it he took more beatings than Jesus and would always Turn the other Cheek and ask for more lol the Holiest of all Qb's turning water in to Koolaid

Posted by: warriorking1112 | November 8, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Y'know, that's one of the nice things about RI - as wackadoo as the posts and comments get, the poll results always seem to make some sort of sense.

rok rok AUN!

Posted by: DikShuttle | November 8, 2010 12:48 PM | Report abuse

McNabb to the Cardinals sounds about right. If I were a betting man, that's what I'd go with.

It ain't gonna be Minny because Childress is out after this year.

I don't think we should sign him long term either. We made a mistake by giving up 2 picks for him, but it would be best for all involved if they just part ways after the season.

No need to prolong the agony by signing him long term when he's not a good fit to start with.

Posted by: Original_etrod | November 8, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Beck. Serious answer.

He looked good in the pre-season.

You could have that beady eyed prick Glen Beck or exhume Rod Beck and have him take snaps from Rabach and it wouldn't make a difference.


Like the Steelers and the 3-4, offensive putirdness is what the Redskins have been known for the last five years. Gotta rank in the mid 20s over that span.

Posted by: RedDMV | November 8, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Y'know, that's one of the nice things about RI - as wackadoo as the posts and comments get, the poll results always seem to make some sort of sense.

rok rok AUN!

Posted by: DikShuttle | November 8, 2010 12:48 PM | Report abuse

They make sense you say? Did you grow up living under power lines as a kid?

Posted by: monk811 | November 8, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Vick is gonna Get MAULED like Wolves on a lamb on MONDAY By Weapon X Orakpo, fat Al, the Hitman Landry, and The Animal Alexander!! THE SKINS ARE GONNA SHOCK THE LEAGUE AND BLOODY UP THE EAGLES STOMP THEM INTO THE MUDD!!! HTTR!!!!!! mccoy is gonna get his head taking off and jaskson will get his teeth knocked out!! WE GONNA COME OUT THE BYE SWINGING, RESTED, READY TO FIGHT BOOK IT!!!!

Posted by: warriorking1112 | November 8, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

No need to prolong the agony by signing him long term when he's not a good fit to start with.

Posted by: Original_etrod | November 8, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Are you insane? We have to at least try to sign him so we can trade, we would be borderline RETARDED to not get back some compensation for him!!!

Posted by: monk811 | November 8, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Where is the option for JaMarcus Russell?

Posted by: REDneckSKINhead | November 8, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

as wackadoo as the posts and comments get, the poll results always seem to make some sort of sense.

Posted by: DikShuttle | November 8, 2010 12:48 PM | Report abuse

That's open for debate, but I will say that thanks to the geniuses in charge we certainly have a large enough sample size to work with.

By my count there have been 127 poll questions in the last 6 days.

I'll say it again: Online media polls are the refuge of lazy "Journalists".

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | November 8, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Agreed Etrod.....

Do we have both of our 1st and 2nd round picks next year?

1st round - C/LG/RG
2nd Round - C/LG/RG (subtract the choice made in the 1st round)

Book it!

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 8, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse

No need to prolong the agony by signing him long term when he's not a good fit to start with.

Posted by: Original_etrod | November 8, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

it would be really sad if this new regime is like Vinny and pulls a Jason Taylor debacle with Mcnabb! which we should have kept Taylor and tried to get some use outta him

Posted by: warriorking1112 | November 8, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Provisionally I would say McNabb, based on the assumption that we go to the playoffs this year. If we don't make it this year, I'd rather have Campbell behind center, along with the second this year and the third next year that we had to ship to Philly. If we're not going to win RIGHT NOW, what's the point of having McNabb at the cost of two potential young starters?

Posted by: crashinghero | November 8, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

I was solidly in the Jason Campbell camp before he was traded. The point was he was not the biggest problem with this team. I think the McNabb issues still proves this point.

I have noticed how McNabb saves this offesive line several times a game buying time and escaping sacks. Jason Campbell did not have that skill. there is no comparison of these three QBs. It's McNabb all the way. JCampbeel and Grossmen combined cannot out perform McNabb.

Posted by: oknow1 | November 8, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

4th, throw in signing VJack in free agency, and I agree....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 8, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

3/4 Wants McNabb
1/5 Wants Campbell
1/50 Wants Sexy Rexy

This tells me that they should've put Jamarcus Russel, John Beck, and 'We should've kept the 2nd Round pick for McCoy' options in there as well.........

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 8, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Are you insane? We have to at least try to sign him so we can trade, we would be borderline RETARDED to not get back some compensation for him!!!

Posted by: monk811


Don't know if you're serious, but this ain't the NBA where sign and trades are frequent. I could be wrong but I think part of the salary stays on the books for the team that signed the player then traded him. Besides, if that were the case he'd be signed by now.

Posted by: RedDMV | November 8, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

What about Patrick Ramsey and Marc Brunell?

Posted by: oknow1 | November 8, 2010 1:04 PM | Report abuse

It's sad to think that "EVERY" black QB over the last twenty years the Redskins have had of haved,they make excuses after excuses why they are not up to par to be a QB for the Redskins !! This last situation is a joke! " PLEASE THINK ABOUT SUCH BEFORE YOU MAKE DUMB AZZ COMMENTS ON WHAT I HAVE STATED" ! LOOK AT YOUR HISTORY! THE TRUTH DOES HURT !!! Examples, Doug Williams, Jason Campbell, now McNabb !!

Posted by: Raidersfan2 | November 8, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

It's McNabb all the way. JCampbeel and Grossmen combined cannot out perform McNabb.

Posted by: oknow1 | November 8, 2010 1:01 PM

That's because there are not enough options in the poll. You bassically stuck with, "McNabb is the best option amongst *these* choices".

And this is why 3/4 voters voted McNabb.

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 8, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

McGrossbell?
This place always goes a little more batsh_t than usual when there's no actual football to complain about. (Case in point, Red seems to be cosigning the above ramblings of a mental patient.)

Posted by: mack1 | November 8, 2010 1:10 PM | Report abuse

The question asks who we are for "today". There is nothing there about next year or the year after that.

Going that far into the future, the correct answer is "none of the above" because the Skins will draft a QB in April who may well be playing at some point in his first year.

For now, I am okay with watching our QB demonstrate that he is more accurate than any other QB in the NFL at hitting his receivers' shoetops.

For all those that say Shanny is calling McNabb stupid for not knowing the playbook....remember McNabb didn't know until a year ago that there were ties in the NFL.

I'm not saying, I'm just saying.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | November 8, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

4th, throw in signing VJack in free agency, and I agree....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 8, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse


I think that's a given...I also think Bralon Edwards would be a good option to come here too..

Posted by: jumbo5383 | November 8, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

I knew J Reid couldn't wait to bring up his mancrush Campbell. A guy who spent so much time talking to him last year that Zorn told him to cut it out.

Good for JC yesterday. Nice guy. But I watched that game and he was far from impressive. In the first half, he was awful. In the second half, he made some decent throws when his first read was open. The game should have ended on his last drive, when he threw a pick that somehow the KC defender dropped.

All that said, he made a great throw in overtime.

Again, good for him.

But Bruce G will be the starter again very soon.

Posted by: MylesMonroe | November 8, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Are you insane? We have to at least try to sign him so we can trade, we would be borderline RETARDED to not get back some compensation for him!!!

Posted by: monk811


Don't know if you're serious, but this ain't the NBA where sign and trades are frequent. I could be wrong but I think part of the salary stays on the books for the team that signed the player then traded him. Besides, if that were the case he'd be signed by now.

Posted by: RedDMV | November 8, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

I've heard of teams working out contract stuff before the trade, but I'm not sure how much of the money we'd be on the hook for. I think Arizona would have to agree with the contract also in order for the trade to go through.
I think they are also waiting to see how the rest of this year plays out, then the signing will come.
I would rather have to pay a few mil. for him to go to a new team and get a 2nd or 3rd round pick to draft with then just letting him leave scott-free at the end of the year. But of course, the hole is still pretty wide from when Jason Taylor fisted us, McNabb might as well do it too!!!

My bet is that we go QB in the first round next year, no matter how good or bad McNabb does this year! 'Monk' it down!

Posted by: monk811 | November 8, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

"have had of haved,they make excuses after excuses"


Sorry, brotha. Usually I rip the grammar Nazis. But the above was too funny...

Sorry, you'll never read a grammar knocking post from me again, promise...


Also, you're totally off base as far as black QBs and the Redskins. We showed mad love to Tony Banks for Qb'ing the team back from a 0-5 start.

Posted by: RedDMV | November 8, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: oknow1 | November 8, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

In fairness to Campbell, McNabb has 2 new tackles and a new guard. Campbell isn't as bad in the pocket as we think. He made a few nice moves yesterday to avoid pressure. When he was here he just had no where to go. I'm not saying he's better than McNabb at avoiding pressure. I'm just saying he's not as bad as we think. I think Campbell would have been a fine placeholder for 3-4 years until Christian Ponder is ready to take over.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | November 8, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Am happy for Campbell thought he never had the weapons with the skins. But mcnabb is miles ahead of him if we can give mcnabb a legit receiver he can be great. Moss is good but getting up there, Armstrong is coming along but seem to me that he can be a much better player in the slot almost like Percy harvin. That's why I belive Randy would have helped this team but we have to much drama already.

Posted by: Jmel1 | November 8, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Again, good for him.

But Bruce G will be the starter again very soon.

Posted by: MylesMonroe | November 8, 2010 1:17 PM |

Don't say anything bad about JC. He's a nice guy and anyone who says the dude sucks/sucked is only saying so because they don't want to see a black QB succeed.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | November 8, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

I love how you use Online and Journalists in the same sentence.... *chortle*.

Posted by: DikShuttle | November 8, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

But Bruce G will be the starter again very soon.

Posted by: MylesMonroe | November 8, 2010 1:17 PM

Bruce is made of peanut brittle, and JC is Al Davis' choice.

We all know how this will go.

Posted by: Alan4 | November 8, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

I also think Bralon Edwards would be a good option to come here too..

yuck...no thanks....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 8, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Here is the bottom line! There is no one who is a bigger fan of the Redskins than I. I was excited about the Skins picking up Mcnabb. Mcnabb is a great quarter back. The problem as I see it; If you dont have an offensive line who can go the distance (four quarters)then I dont care how good your quarter back is he will not be productive. In my opinion that is wher the staff of the skins have fell short for the last ten years. Maybe I was spoiled by the hogs. That being said the offensive line is the problem, not Mcnabb. Now another thing I have a problem with! Why in the dickens when the skins get ahead a few points they tend to go to a soft defense! That is nuts!!! when you got them down keep them down!! The soft defense is killing them. Oh yeah! somebody needs to straighten out Deangelo Hall. He makes a few good plays and thinks that is all he needs to do! tighten up on the line Deangelo! My god the way you play defense I could catch on you and I am 54 years old!!

Posted by: wjoyner57 | November 8, 2010 1:26 PM | Report abuse

I'm not saying he's better than McNabb at avoiding pressure. I'm just saying he's not as bad as we think.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | November 8, 2010 1:20 PM |

Sorry dude. I "think" any starting QB in the NFL in year 2 of a system that goes 4-12 sucks big, sweaty, smelly homeless dudes' balls.

He contributed to an OT win against a team that hadn't beaten anyone. I wouldn't necessarily call that a feather in his cap. Especially since he won't start next week after 'Ski comes back.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | November 8, 2010 1:26 PM | Report abuse

mack1, depending on who you ask around here they do associate me with the mentally insane.


Posted by: RedDMV | November 8, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

I prefer none of the above. However, give me a really good offensive line and any of the three would be 'fine'.

Posted by: imageaid | November 8, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

It's sad to think that "EVERY" black QB over the last twenty years the Redskins have had of haved,

Posted by: Raidersfan2 | November 8, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Wow, can someone help me with the translation, I don't speak Retard-ese! Do you actually talk like that? That is soooo sad, go back to school jerk-off.

As far as I know we didn't have ALL the black QB's you racist f*ck. As I recall Steve McNair was a decent QB who didn't play for us. As far as those 3 examples go, Doug Williams won a SB with us and was GIVEN a chance to be the full time starter but FAILED, he was better being a backup. Campbell sucks and soon you will see it too. He started us out 6-2 two years ago, we finished 8-8. As far as McNabb goes, it's only been 1/2 year, so I'll reserve judgment until the end of this year. You should remember the number 1/2, isn't 1/2 inch the size of your d*ck?

You obviously got lost looking for the 'My daddy raped me and I'm a loser' Post, so back it up and get out of the REDSKINS Post!

Posted by: monk811 | November 8, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

way to fall for the troll... lmao.

Posted by: DikShuttle | November 8, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

I voted for McNabb, but my real vote is for RI to stop giving us these useless polls and start giving us some actual analysis of something besides McNabb or Haynesworth.

Posted by: skinsfan713 | November 8, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

way to fall for the troll... lmao.

Posted by: DikShuttle | November 8, 2010 1:33 PM

Monk's just bored today haha

Posted by: PlayAction | November 8, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse

I voted for Sammy Baugh. btw - did anyone catch the last episode of "Top 100"? Where did Sammy place?

Posted by: DikShuttle | November 8, 2010 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | November 8, 2010 1:26 PM | Report abuse

We need a JC detractor flow chart.

Did JC lead a team to victory?
Yes? Goto->Well he didn't do it in the fourth quarter because he's a choker.

Did JC lead his team to victory from behind in the 4th quarter?
Yes? Goto-> Well, he didn't do it in the last 2 minutes of the game so he still sucks.

Did JC lead his team to victory in the 4th quarter from behind in the last 2 minutes?
Yes, Goto-> Well, the team he beat isn't very good.

Did JC lead his team to victory from behind in the final 2 minutes of the 4th quarter against a team with a winning record and was at the time at the top of the division?

Damn, well er uh well goto-> Well, the team hasn't beaten anybody yet execept for the Chargers and they don't count because you're a poopy head...

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | November 8, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

way to fall for the troll... lmao.

Posted by: DikShuttle | November 8, 2010 1:33 PM

Monk's just bored today haha

Posted by: PlayAction | November 8, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, he wasn't just a troll, but a RETARDED one, and needed to be put in his place!

And isn't beep-beep the one that's supposed to tell us not to talk to them??? Oops, I broke another rule!

What about Red, I think he talked to him too!!! Why is everybody always pickin on me? hahaha
Thanks for taking up for me Play, I think!

Posted by: monk811 | November 8, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

anyone who says the dude sucks/sucked is only saying so because they don't want to see a black QB succeed.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl

Maybe I'm not in the know, or call me old school, but an alleged white dude who doesn't give the impression at all that he's in touch with the black community comes in and starts popping off with "ni**er, what's" and "ni**er, who's, are usually classified as racist deuchebags.

No matter how many times they change their screen name. It has nothing to do with people taking your "jokes" out of context homeboy. If you didn't feel the sting from that whole "Negro" remark, then why switch up screen names? Did they ban your screen name? Maybe you and the homie Poop can go file letter of complaints or something...


Stop trying to make it like others are the bad guy here, or that everyone BUT YOU lacks a sense of humor. People are just calling a "spade" a "spade".

I know you get whatimsayin... "biggs"

Posted by: RedDMV | November 8, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Rex, Jason, Donovan?

Easy call. Donovan is the best QB on that list. Rex is last under every scenario.

But, if the question is Jason + a 2nd rd pick + 4th round pick + $10million (which could be used to sign FA) or Donovan for 1 year ... the answers should be different.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 8, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse

DO all the Soup apologists need to STFU 'cause there's no way he's ever comin' back here, anyway. -> Yes, but we can't reasonlably expect that to happen. Oy vey.

Posted by: DikShuttle | November 8, 2010 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Wouldn't it be somewhat ironic if Jason Campbell and the Raiders end this season with a better record than the Skins?

Posted by: burnie4241 | November 8, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for taking up for me Play, I think!

Posted by: monk811 | November 8, 2010 1:43 PM

No problem monk...I was lol at your rebuttal...no clue what you were trying to say...but you were very passionate about whatever it was haha

Posted by: PlayAction | November 8, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

zcezcest1: I'm making the assumption that JC means we keep the 2nd round pick. In which case I vote for JC. As we see from this play in Oakland it wasn't the QB it was the OL. He's got a not-putrid OL. He's got a RB who actually shows up to practice and more than 1 fast WR who will go after the ball. He's stepping up into the pocket, breaking tackles, throwing it deep, and not holding the ball too long.

Posted by: ProfessorWrightBSU | November 8, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Wouldn't it be somewhat ironic if Jason Campbell and the Raiders end this season with a better record than the Skins?

Posted by: burnie4241 | November 8, 2010 1:48 PM

No.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 8, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

I SAY WE CUT LOOSE BUCHANON AND SIGN AL HARRIS IF HE IS CUT FREE AND HEALTHY OR AT LEAST CHECK HIM OUT! PB MAKES WAY TOO MANY MISTAKES

Posted by: warriorking1112 | November 8, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Bruce is made of peanut brittle, and JC is Al Davis' choice.

We all know how this will go.

Posted by: Alan4

That is so true and throw Lions QB Stafford in there as well. A strong wind blows and that kid shoulder will pop out.

Posted by: jm220 | November 8, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

RI is suffering from Snyderitis: Too much focus on "QB as savior".

No QB plays well when they're getting mauled, so the trick is to protect 'em, give them a run game, and some targets to throw to.

How are we going to do that? That's the story I want to read!

Posted by: Alan4 | November 8, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Wouldn't it be somewhat ironic if Jason Campbell and the Raiders end this season with a better record than the Skins?

Posted by: burnie4241 | November 8, 2010 1:48 PM
it would be BS and jason campbell wont finish the season as a starter BOOK IT he IS A CHUMP CRYBABY WHO CANNOT LEAD AND WILL NEVER LEAD A TEAM TO THE PLAYOFFS LET ALONE A SUPER BOWL LIKE MCNABB AND GROSSMAN HAVE ALREADY!!!

Posted by: warriorking1112 | November 8, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Rex, Jason, Donovan?

Easy call. Donovan is the best QB on that list. Rex is last under every scenario.

But, if the question is Jason + a 2nd rd pick + 4th round pick + $10million (which could be used to sign FA) or Donovan for 1 year ... the answers should be different.

Posted by: zcezcest1

Zce you get it. It not about JC being better than McNabb. Only a fool will say that JC is better. It is all about what we gave up and still having the same problems (o line) with McNabb we had with JC. Which could have been address with the draft picks we gave up.

Posted by: jm220 | November 8, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

I'm beginning to think The fans have become more patient than the coaches and their sons'.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 8, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

No.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 8, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse


Come on Beep....It would absolutely be ironic. Not funny, or cool, or good for us Redskins fans in any way, but it would be ironic.

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | November 8, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Here is my plan for the Skins in the offseason:

Sign Mankins #1

Sign Vincent Jackson or Jacoby Jones #2

Sign as many young O linemen as possible #3

Either sign Mc5 or sign or trade for Dennis Dixon (his contract is up, but may be low tendered) #4

Draft Julio Jones or Johnathen Baldwin in 1st round (AJ won't be available) #5

Draft a D Tackle or Center in 2nd round #6

Bring in Jamarcus Russell if he weighs 230 at most #7

Have a Duo between Russell, Dixon, and Beck

Posted by: roccoskins | November 8, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Wouldn't it be somewhat ironic if Jason Campbell and the Raiders end this season with a better record than the Skins?

Posted by: burnie4241


More like poetic justice

Posted by: RedDMV | November 8, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

I know you get whatimsayin... "biggs"

Posted by: RedDMV | November 8, 2010 1:43 PM

Red, you are the dooshiest of all dooshes in here in case your mother hadn't reminded you from upstairs as she efforts to wash the skidmarks out of your threadbare BVD's

You're a freaking Sherlock I guess for pegging my screen-name change after I already announced it was the name of my ff team. Top notch detective work there skippy.

Next, you cannot live, I repeat, CANNOT LIVE without being able to take a sarcastic, adult comment, as much of an insult as it was meant to be and burn forever with an ignorant hatred for an individual who used it in an effort to somehow make some slug of society (yourself) feel a little better.

You're a loser.

You're a waste of tax dollars.

You cannot write for crap.

It's clear to anyone with half a brain you hate your life.

Now keep on running your loser yap on a freaking blog so I can keep on laughing at you.

Something that keeps coming to my mind:

Some lifer in a blog not liking me? Doesn't that make ME the winner?

Oh yeah, yes.

Struggle on maggot.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | November 8, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse

jason campbell SUCKS!!! HE IS A HACK JOKE OF A QB!!! REX GROSSMEN AND MCNABB BOTH HAVE LEAD A TEAM TO THE PLAYOFFS AND THE SUPERBOWL SOMETHING THAT jason campbell NEVER HAS AND WILL NEVER DO!! IT TOOK TODD COLLINS TO TAKE CHARGE AND LEAD THE REDSKINS TO THE PLAYOFFS!!!! MCNABB MIGHT BE A HOF"ER SOMETHING THAT jc COULD ONLY HAVE WET DREAMS ABOUT DOING A QUARTER ON WHAT MCNABB HAS DONE AND WILL DO!!! jason campbell was ONE OF THE MAJOR PROBLEMS WITH THE SKINS LAST SEASON NOT ALL OF THEM BUT A MAJOR ONE HENCE THE TEAM IS A HECK OF A LOT BETTER WITH MCNABB LEADING SOMETHING THE jason"Jesus" campbell CANNOT AND WILL NEVER DO

Posted by: warriorking1112 | November 8, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for taking up for me Play, I think!

Posted by: monk811 | November 8, 2010 1:43 PM

No problem monk...I was lol at your rebuttal...no clue what you were trying to say...but you were very passionate about whatever it was haha

Posted by: PlayAction | November 8, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Me neither!!! I think what's wrong with me is warriorking TYPING EVERYTHING IN CAPS!!!!! MAN I HATE WHEN PEOPLE TALK LIKE THIS, IT MAKES ME ANXIOUS AND NERVOUS. MAYBE HE SHOULD CUT DOWN ON THE CAFFIENE OR SOMETHING!!!

Wow, I can feel my blood pressure get higher talking like that!

Posted by: monk811 | November 8, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

I know you get whatimsayin... "biggs"

Posted by: RedDMV | November 8, 2010 1:43 PM

Red, you are the dooshiest of all dooshes in here in case your mother hadn't reminded you from upstairs as she efforts to wash the skidmarks out of your threadbare BVD's

You're a freaking Sherlock I guess for pegging my screen-name change after I already announced it was the name of my ff team. Top notch detective work there skippy.

Next, you cannot live, I repeat, CANNOT LIVE without being able to take a sarcastic, adult comment, as much of an insult as it was meant to be and burn forever with an ignorant hatred for an individual who used it in an effort to somehow make some slug of society (yourself) feel a little better.

You're a loser.

You're a waste of tax dollars.

You cannot write for crap.

It's clear to anyone with half a brain you hate your life.

Now keep on running your loser yap on a freaking blog so I can keep on laughing at you.

Something that keeps coming to my mind:

Some lifer in a blog not liking me? Doesn't that make ME the winner?

Oh yeah, yes.

Struggle on maggot.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | November 8, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse

I know you get whatimsayin... "biggs"

Posted by: RedDMV | November 8, 2010 1:43 PM

Red, you are the dooshiest of all dooshes in here in case your mother hadn't reminded you from upstairs as she efforts to wash the skidmarks out of your threadbare BVD's

You're a freaking Sherlock I guess for pegging my screen-name change after I already announced it was the name of my ff team. Top notch detective work there skippy.

Next, you cannot live, I repeat, CANNOT LIVE without being able to take a sarcastic, adult comment, as much of an insult as it was meant to be and burn forever with an ignorant hatred for an individual who used it in an effort to somehow make some slug of society (yourself) feel a little better.

You're a loser.

You're a waste of tax dollars.

You cannot write for crap.

It's clear to anyone with half a brain you hate your life.

Now keep on running your loser yap on a freaking blog so I can keep on laughing at you.

Something that keeps coming to my mind:

Some lifer in a blog not liking me? Doesn't that make ME the winner?

Oh yeah, yes.

Struggle on maggot.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | November 8, 2010 2:08 PM | Report abuse

I posted earlier this year that JC here and instaed og DM with the same record, would have been a plus for the redskins. We should have drafted a rookie high draft pickand started the building process. O-line is rebuilding, and DM is getting crushed. We once again paid for the present not the future. Snyder sitll rules and the tradition continues we will continue to be below avarage until we get stability and youth on our side. Hoping for 4 more wins to keep the4 JC haters happy, but I see no gain with the moves from this year. Plus Shanny needs to get over attatude flaws AH might not be the most reliable but he is effective now that they are playing him in a spot that highlights his talents. Oh well lessons learned by the fan not management. Go SKINS

Posted by: MPWTIAN | November 8, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Here is my plan for the Skins in the offseason:

Sign Mankins #1

Sign Vincent Jackson or Jacoby Jones #2

Sign as many young O linemen as possible #3

Either sign Mc5 or sign or trade for Dennis Dixon (his contract is up, but may be low tendered) #4

Draft Julio Jones or Johnathen Baldwin in 1st round (AJ won't be available) #5

Draft a D Tackle or Center in 2nd round #6

Bring in Jamarcus Russell if he weighs 230 at most #7

Have a Duo between Russell, Dixon, and Beck

Posted by: roccoskins | November 8, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse
good ideas except for Jackson he was made by Rivers, i say sign Randy Moss to a one year deal and try to develop some young WR's, but WE STILL GOT 8WEEKS AND WE ARE STILL IN THIS THING WE MIGHT BECOME A GREAT TEAM AND GROW DOWN THE STRECH!!!! HTTR!! LETS STOMP THOSE PUNK eagles!!!

Posted by: warriorking1112 | November 8, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse

I posted earlier this year that JC here and instaed og DM with the same record, would have been a plus for the redskins. We should have drafted a rookie high draft pickand started the building process. O-line is rebuilding, and DM is getting crushed. We once again paid for the present not the future. Snyder sitll rules and the tradition continues we will continue to be below avarage until we get stability and youth on our side. Hoping for 4 more wins to keep the JC haters happy, but I see no gain with the moves from this year. Plus Shanny needs to get over attatude flaws AH might not be the most reliable but he is effective now that they are playing him in a spot that highlights his talents. Oh well lessons learned by the fan not management. Go SKINS

Posted by: MPWTIAN | November 8, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Chris Horton on IR. ANderson Russell elevated. And we released Ray Small sign S Sha'reff Rashad and WR Taurus Johnson to PS.

Posted by: roccoskins | November 8, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Not another blogfight... please!

Posted by: Alan4 | November 8, 2010 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Come on Beep....It would absolutely be ironic. Not funny, or cool, or good for us Redskins fans in any way, but it would be ironic.

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | November 8, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse


Common knowledge around here is that you can't win with JC as your QB right? So if the Raiders won with JC as their QB that would be the opposite of the expected reaction and that is irony in my book.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | November 8, 2010 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Back when the McNabb trade was made, I was one of the few that didn't care for it. gotta say, it was pretty lonely up here.

Its not that McNabb isn't a better QB. Its that our priority needed to be elsewhere. It needed to be on the OL and on getting younger.

Shanahan has made our OL younger in 2 spots ... TW (or Okung) was the obvious need. But in the 2nd spot, younger Kory Lichtensteiger hasn't made it better.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 8, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse

I posted earlier this year that JC here and instaed of DM with the same record, would have been a plus for the redskins. We should have drafted a rookie QB high draft pick and started the building process. O-line is rebuilding, and DM is getting crushed, JC bounces better. We once again paid for the present not the future. Snyder still rules and the tradition continues we will continue to be below avarage until we get stability in coaching and youth on our side. Hoping for 4 more wins to keep the JC haters happy, but I see no gain with the moves from this year. Plus Shanny needs to get over attitude flaws AH might not be the most reliable but he is effective now that they are playing him in a spot that highlights his talents. Oh well lessons learned by the fans not management. Go SKINS

Posted by: MPWTIAN | November 8, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

#Redskins place S Chris Horton on injured reserve, elevate S Anderson Russell from practice squad.

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 8, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

I think what's wrong with me is warriorking TYPING EVERYTHING IN CAPS!!!!!

Posted by: monk811 | November 8, 2010 2:05 PM

I know...his posts are making my eyes burn!

Posted by: PlayAction | November 8, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

We beat the Eagles unmercifully next Monday.

Book it!

What's really missing is CP picking up blitzes. I think his absence is really under appreciated in theb pasing game.

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 8, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

IF next year's picks ain't LG/C/RG in the 1st two picks, I wouldn't know what to make of this team other than Shanahan has a serious Napeolian Complex. And his son may have it because he doesn't relize how else to act......

Logan Mankins as a pick up next year would be nice too.....but may be too expensive for us....

We don't need Julio Jones in next year's 1st round. We got Malcom Kelly. Moss/Kelly/Armstrong next year.....

As for a QB, we need to find someone else's trash (ala Fitzpatrick) and turn them around: TJack (from Minny) sounds like a go to me.....He's a Free Agent....

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 8, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

What on EARTH makes you think we'd have a better record w/ Soup at the helm?! You've already seen that experiment. Real-world evidence trumps made up crap any day.

Posted by: DikShuttle | November 8, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

2 weeks to prepare for Philly.

I think the O-line has had time to get healthy, especially Jammal Brown.

What about moving Heyer to left guard?

I don't know the answer, but I think 2 weeks of practice and rest, the Shanny's will get this O-line straight.

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 8, 2010 2:25 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe all the Soup apologists around here! The guy is terrible!

ESPN's AFC West High Energy Player of the Week for the win 4 weeks ago? Pfft. What does ESPN know about football?

FedEx Air NFL Player of the Week last week? Meaningless! The vote was fixed!

Everyone knows his game-tying in regulation yesterday should have been an INT, but the stupid defender couldn't hang onto it.

First 3 game win streak in Oakland since 2002? Bruce G could have done it better!

Luck I tells ya! Nothin' but luck! The guy can't play!

Posted by: Alan4 | November 8, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Hopefully we can land the PSU or the USC center this year in the draft.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | November 8, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

McNabb is FAR AND AWAY the best QB of that "bunch" or "pile" or whatever you want to call it.

Still, Campbell doesn't throw picks. The guy is really careful with the ball. Which helps when your team is borderline sucking, like the Redskins and Raiders. The last couple of weeks when the Raiders were blowing people out, it was widely reported that Cable had told Campbell to stop being so careful - to just let the ball go. And apparently, Campbell started completing very dangerous passes, albeit for huge gains and touchdowns.

Yesterday, however, was not the game for gunslinging. It was raining and the Raiders were playing the #1 rushing team in the NFL (ball control/time of possession control). The type of team you DO NOT want to give extra chances with the ball. And Campbell was VERY careful with the ball, until the final drive where he basically threw an Int over the middle that his receiver stole and set up the tying field goal.

Overtime, he did what SOME of us knew he was pretty dang good at when he threw a deep post to basically seal the game.

Campbell got a raw deal here. McNabb suddenly is being questioned because he's learning a new system and the team around him is deficient. He gets the benefit, because we've seen what he can do on a legit NFL team.

Campbell never had that. He's been playing with a JV squad since he came in the league, with a different offense every other year and his best receiver is 4'9".

But, McNabb is WAY better at running for his life, which is what this current team requires.

Grossman? I still say whoever brought him here should be fired. The guy is a walking blooper film. He's a joke and a disaster. He should have been out of the league years ago.

PS - I agree with zcest. Should have put every pick into the O Line. Should have traded for more picks and put THEM into the O Line. Then, who knows, maybe Campbell doesn't get himself killed working back there. Or maybe we get a journeyman QB (a Sage Rosenfels type) who can get it done, because he's got decent protection and a decent run game in front of him.

But that's why Shanny has all those SBs, right? Because he's so smart. Elway wasn't too bad, either, and neither was playing a mile above sea level.

Posted by: Thinker_ | November 8, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

When is CP scheduled to return? Here's to another Vick sandwich.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | November 8, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Wade has been fired

Posted by: roccoskins | November 8, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

That's IT!

Shanny's brain is suffering from an overload of oxygen! Quick! Let's move his office to a hot air balloon! He can watch practice from there, too with binoculars.

The guy needs to start making sound decisions again.

Posted by: Thinker_ | November 8, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Wade has been fired

Posted by: roccoskins | November 8, 2010 2:32 PM

Dag Nabbit.

Posted by: PlayAction | November 8, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Wade fired?!

Oh, no.

What if they don't suck anymore? That will suck.

Danny should have passed along Sherman Lewis' number and tried to convince him that it's much better to have 3 guys calling plays than one.

I'm gonna miss those Cowboys from yesterday.

Posted by: Thinker_ | November 8, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

huhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhu

Posted by: DikShuttle | November 8, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

I'll take Rex, thanks. That means I also get back the second-rounder we foolishly spent for McNabb. I'll call that draft pick "Toby Gerhart", which will fix our RB, pass-blocking, and 3rd Down Back problems.

I wouldn't not have minded keeping Campbell, but it's clear that Snyder abhors him. Poor guy never had a chance, not from his very first game.

Posted by: JimmieBise | November 8, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse

IH8Dallas is the most optimistic poster on this blog by miles.

I wish I had his optimism.

More than that, I wish he was right!

But, I expect the Eagles Offense to be very had to stop up there. And after beating them once, we'll be a little too cocky and they'll be a little too pissed, and we'll probably get our hats handed to us.

But I really hope IH8 is right. I really do.

Posted by: Thinker_ | November 8, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Getting CP back will make a world of difference.

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 8, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Redskins News Alert: Redskins sign S Anderson Russell from practice squad, and place Chris Horton on season-ending I-R, Also sign WR Taurus Johnson and S Sha'reff Rashad to practice squad. Redskins also released WR Ray Small from practice squad - Chris Russell

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 8, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

yeah, I know, I said up there. Being at home will help some. I give us 3 pts for that. Which Gano will probably bounce off the uprights.

and when I said, "the Eagles Offense to be very had to stop," I guess my Northeastern accent got the better of my fingers.

I think we can win, but, man, the Eagles, with that psychopath Vick, are really hard to defend.

Posted by: Thinker_ | November 8, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

But, I expect the Eagles Offense to be very had to stop up there. And after beating them once, we'll be a little too cocky and they'll be a little too pissed, and we'll probably get our hats handed to us.

But I really hope IH8 is right. I really do.

Posted by: Thinker_ | November 8, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

I don't expect anyone to be too cocky coming off a lost to the Lions. Regardless of how good people say they are in spite of their record. You are what your record says you are. And the Lions are a two win team.

I expect us to play with a larger chip than the eagles, who are coming off a big win against Indy.

Posted by: Devo2 | November 8, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

I take that back for a second. He has not offically been fired. At least not 10 mins ago. According to Schefty.

Posted by: roccoskins | November 8, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

IF next year's picks ain't LG/C/RG in the 1st two picks, I wouldn't know what to make of this team other than Shanahan has a serious Napeolian Complex. And his son may have it because he doesn't relize how else to act......

Logan Mankins as a pick up next year would be nice too.....but may be too expensive for us....

We don't need Julio Jones in next year's 1st round. We got Malcom Kelly. Moss/Kelly/Armstrong next year.....

As for a QB, we need to find someone else's trash (ala Fitzpatrick) and turn them around: TJack (from Minny) sounds like a go to me.....He's a Free Agent....

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 8, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

If this team uses a mid to upper first round pick on an interior lineman I'm going to throw up. I realize it's an area of need but let's be honest interior linemen just aren't worth that much. Every now and then you get one but I don't see any in this draft that are worth more than a high 2nd rounder. We need to get value for our picks too. Reaching in the draft just to fill a need doesn't sit right with me. We have too many needs to waste a first on an interior linemen. Regardless of what you think of McNabb we still need a young QB. What if a player like Jake Locker, Ryan Mallet, Julio Jones, A.J. Green, or Mark Ingram is there? I think you have to take him and hope Mike Pouncy, the center from PSU or USC is still there in the second.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | November 8, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

don't expect anyone to be too cocky coming off a lost to the Lions. Regardless of how good people say they are in spite of their record. You are what your record says you are. And the Lions are a two win team.

Posted by: Devo2 | November 8, 2010 2:44 PM

Vegas made the Lions the odds favorites to beat the Skins, and money talks.

The Bills have zero wins, but I would put money on them beating the 1 win Cowpies easily right now.

It's not just about the record.

Posted by: Alan4 | November 8, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

IH8Dallas is the most optimistic poster on this blog by miles.

I wish I had his optimism.

More than that, I wish he was right!

But, I expect the Eagles Offense to be very had to stop up there. And after beating them once, we'll be a little too cocky and they'll be a little too pissed, and we'll probably get our hats handed to us.

But I really hope IH8 is right. I really do.

Posted by: Thinker_ | November 8, 2010 2:40 PM |

It's a mental gift. How can it not be? His mind is so strong he can essentially talk himself into holding in a giant deuce for days on end. His feats of bowel control are legendary.

BP has offered him a small fortune to reverse-engineer the technology of his sphincter muscles and incorporate those to the design of their new blowout preventers.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | November 8, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Jason C and 2 draft picks. That's my vote.

Because that is potentially a young version of McNabb plus 2 young quality offensive linemen. No brainer!

Posted by: cstanton1 | November 8, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Vegas made the Lions the odds favorites to beat the Skins, and money talks.

Posted by: Alan4 | November 8, 2010 2:52 PM

It's amazing...how the hell does Vegas know that Daniels would jump offsides on a 25 yard field goal attempt...and Doughty would throw an unnecessary block in the back on a kickoff return for a touchdown...it is simply amazing.

Posted by: PlayAction | November 8, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

There is no way in my mind we pass up Julio Jones. If AJ Green falls, it would be totally insane to pass him. We don't know what MK12 is gonna be like. You don't have to draft O line in the 1st round. We need a WR. We need playmakers. WE need Speed.

Posted by: roccoskins | November 8, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Beep Beep Beep

Posted by: PlayAction | November 8, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Vegas made the Lions the odds favorites to beat the Skins, and money talks.

Posted by: Alan4 | November 8, 2010 2:52 PM

It's amazing...how the hell does Vegas know that Daniels would jump offsides on a 25 yard field goal attempt...and Doughty would throw an unnecessary block in the back on a kickoff return for a touchdown...it is simply amazing.

Posted by: PlayAction | November 8, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Vegas wasn't the only culprit, those damn refs sucked that game. You can tell they were 'Detroit refs'!

Posted by: monk811 | November 8, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

How about Peyton Manning, the best QB in the game....even he would look like the worst QB in the league with this offensive line. Let's talk about the real issue instead of blaming the QB

Posted by: psock1 | November 8, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

JR,
Mcnabb is just not a good fit, neither is Grossman. These are long ball throwers. They throw it deep and let the reciever run under it.

Their mid to short game sucks. Mccnabb has accuracy issues, and the only reason he had a high percentage before was because of dump passes to westbrook.

So I think they need to re evaluate and get accurate throwers at QB. Need to fit the system.

My answer to the poll is none of the above.

Posted by: cowrabbit88 | November 8, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

JR,
Mcnabb is just not a good fit, neither is Grossman. These are long ball throwers. They throw it deep and let the reciever run under it.

Their mid to short game sucks. Mccnabb has accuracy issues, and the only reason he had a high percentage before was because of dump passes to westbrook.

So I think they need to re evaluate and get accurate throwers at QB. Need to fit the system.

My answer to the poll is none of the above.

Posted by: cowrabbit88 | November 8, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

JR,
Mcnabb is just not a good fit, neither is Grossman. These are long ball throwers. They throw it deep and let the reciever run under it.

Their mid to short game sucks. Mccnabb has accuracy issues, and the only reason he had a high percentage before was because of dump passes to westbrook.

So I think they need to re evaluate and get accurate throwers at QB. Need to fit the system.

My answer to the poll is none of the above.

Posted by: cowrabbit88 | November 8, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

If you have any of the three quarterbacks as your #1 you need to upgrade.

McNabb at 34 is more past than future. He gets hurt every season and his accuracy is down around where most qbs were 30 years ago.

Campbell is a guy that does well when everything else is fine. When there is the slightest adversity from injuries or poor play by the OL or WR then he loses confidence and goes to pieces.

Grossman was a prolific college qb. Like most Florida quarterbacks he is a backup in the NFL. No one takes Grossman seriously as a starting candidate. He is perhaps a half step up from the likes of John Kitna and Todd Collins.

Posted by: RoyHobbs4 | November 8, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Who got most of the QB reps in practice today?

Posted by: DeployedFan | November 8, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Who got most of the QB reps in practice today?

Posted by: DeployedFan | November 8, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Campbell was struggling earlier this season with the Raiders. Wasn't he benched in the middle of the 2nd or 3rd game? That's better than McNabb? No way!

JC has a little bit of an O-line with the Raiders; we don't have much of an O-line, yet. Trent Williams (Rookie) and company are trying but...injuries, mistakes/penalties are hurting us.

End the QB controversy; Grossman is the backup, period. McNabb is THE starter unless HURT. Jason Campbell IS a Raider, and best to him.

Get an O-line for next year, please. And, oh, by the way, DO NOT let Donovan McNabb get away from D.C. without a decent contract. Stop stabbing him in the back.

HTTR, fight for ol' DC!
ps, can we get Hogs part 2? :)

Posted by: davedeltawhiskeybravo | November 8, 2010 5:13 PM | Report abuse

bruce g may be put back in the line-up for raiders but he will not last more than 2 games if that long he is avg. at best a journey man with mediocre arm and in reality a weakling who can't take a hit his next injury this year will knock him out for the season again and campbell will be the starter because he can take a hit deal with it. don't need a al harris a 36 yr old cb put k. barnes in to replace buchannon who is one of the DIC-tater's favorites but really has not done much, barnes is younger faster and can hit but he probably likes going to salons and styling in music videos like d. thomas and e. williams.

Posted by: wathu19 | November 8, 2010 6:40 PM | Report abuse

McNabb is taking too much heat (from fans and defenses) but...

Campbell at low salary plus 2nd round o-line this year and 4th round o-line next year is better for the team if we are ever to be an elite squad. It might even have been better this year too.

And the Eagles would be weaker.

We could have just signed McNabb next year anyway. Anyone who thought we could be good (or are good) this year is delusional.

Posted by: MarquisSmith | November 8, 2010 6:56 PM | Report abuse

JC is not an NFL caliber quarterback.

Our guess is after JC's record setting performance a couple of games ago -- when he had the worst rating of any QB in Raiders history -- he realized he was one game away from being OUT of the NFL completely. That shock factor will wear off soon, though, and the old Jason Campbell will be back, looking clueless in the huddle, throwing balls in the dirt, missing open receivers, panicking in the red zone, and making post-game excuses based on his lack of knowledge of the offense.

That's our Jason.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | November 8, 2010 8:13 PM | Report abuse

From Peter KIng's Monday Morning Quarterback:


The Award Section


Offensive Players of the Week

Jason Campbell, QB, Oakland.
His numbers in the overtime win over Kansas City were pedestrian -- 19 of 33, 229 yards, one touchdown, one interception -- but he made rookie wideout Jacoby Ford a very famous man Sunday in the biggest game Oakland has played since 2002. Campbell drove the Raiders to a game-tying field goal at the end of regulation by completing passes of seven, 19 and 29 yards to get into field-goal range. Then, in overtime, Campbell threw a pass of beauty, a spiraled rope traveling 47 yards, again to Ford, to get in position for the winning field goal by Sebastian Janikowski. Great job of redemption Campbell, who started this game only because nominal starter Bruce Gradkowski is hurt.


Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/peter_king/11/07/mmqb-nfl-week-9/3.html#ixzz14kL2M8jw

Posted by: supattapone | November 8, 2010 8:58 PM | Report abuse

JC is not an NFL caliber quarterback.

Our guess is after JC's record setting performance a couple of games ago -- when he had the worst rating of any QB in Raiders history -- he realized he was one game away from being OUT of the NFL completely. That shock factor will wear off soon, though, and the old Jason Campbell will be back, looking clueless in the huddle, throwing balls in the dirt, missing open receivers, panicking in the red zone, and making post-game excuses based on his lack of knowledge of the offense.

That's our Jason.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | November 8, 2010 8:13 PM | Report abuse

JC IS KICKIN A55 AND YOU HATERS CANT STAND IT!!!! THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS THE SAME THING YOU SAID HE COULDN'T DO DRIVE DOWN THE FIELD AND WIN A GAME, HE DID TWICE YESTERDAY ONCE TO GO TO OT, AND A PRETTY 47YD STRIKE TO WIN IT IN OT!!! JC IS GONE. NOW LIVE WITH THE CRAPP THAT YOU HAVE NOW!! GO JC IT'S YOUR BIRTHDAY!!!!

Posted by: gwest1 | November 8, 2010 10:42 PM | Report abuse

I voted Jason Campbell, because in that case they'd still have those two high draft picks with which to get the Olinemen and DLinemen they need to get better. By the time the supporting cast is good enough to win, McNabb will be drawing Social Security.

Posted by: dolph924 | November 9, 2010 1:25 AM | Report abuse

Congratulations. Trying to undermine the Redskins by creating an artificial controversy is a very smart way to sell newspapers.

It's also smart because it draws in people who know nothing about football (ie, a lot more than do) and by thus creating statistics that do not reflect knowledge of the game, further generate controversy.

I see the political column this morning in the Wash Post are working along a similar track, eg, what would have happened in the elections if the Repubs had not stabbed one of their candidates in the back. This creates a controversy about the premise and is a question that can never be answered, so can in principle be argued endlessly.

Good job, Wash Post. You have not reached the bottom yet, but no one can say you aren't trying to get there. Let's have that as the basis for a poll!


Posted by: dcc1968 | November 9, 2010 1:43 AM | Report abuse

Trying to undermine the Redskins by creating an artificial controversy is a very smart way to sell newspapers.
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A QB controversy is started by benching your starter going into the bye week and stating that it's because he can't run the two minute offense. Then having the QB, who you traded up three draft picks for to pick in the first round then surreptitiously dumped, lead TWO ---- YES TWO ---- two minute drills to perfection to win it in OT on a team where you couldn't name a single wide receiver...during that very BYE week after you benched your starter.

Murphy couldn't write "Murphy's law" better than the Skins do it.

Posted by: 20yrskinfan | November 9, 2010 3:01 AM | Report abuse


Wrong question wrong poll. Who would be the best fit as coach for the skins. Would it be a coach who develops a system to fit his players or a system that fits the coach. Guess which one makes more sense in the short and long term future for the team. John Riggins just last week called Shanahan a tight AZZZZ who would gets off being in complete, absolute control. Its Shannys way or you donot play instead of putting his best players on the field and adapting to the teams individual strengths. Team discipline was much needed after Jim Zorn but now its marine corp style discipline on steroids. Shanny and his son need to calm down by, improving the O line,let Mcnab be Mcnab and Albert Hayneswworth be Haynesworth.


wrong question wrong poll

Posted by: maat523 | November 9, 2010 4:42 AM | Report abuse

Jason Campbell has received national recognition two weeks in a row, and has played at a very high level for three weeks in a row. During this span, the Raiders have gone 3-0.

Two weeks ago against Seattle, Jason Campbell was named FEDEX Air Player of the Week:

http://www.raiders.com/news/article-1/Campbell-Named-FedEx-Air-Player-of-the-Week/b3709498-276c-4578-8ba8-31d7bafcabee

Posted by: supattapone | November 9, 2010 4:45 AM | Report abuse

sorry for the caps! Lol this damng palm touch screen and every time I type the screen jumps to the top of page!!! But oh well!! Anyway jason campbell is trash and jr is a idiot for including that joke in the poll lol lol sorry had to say it!! W1 should have signed Randy Moss!!! He could have only helped

Posted by: warriorking1112 | November 9, 2010 5:36 AM | Report abuse

sorry for the caps! Lol this damng palm touch screen and every time I type the screen jumps to the top of page!!! But oh well!! Anyway jason campbell is trash and jr is a idiot for including that joke in the poll lol lol sorry had to say it!! W1 should have signed Randy Moss!!! He could have only helped

Posted by: warriorking1112 | November 9, 2010 5:38 AM | Report abuse

Should have had Sonny on the list. I'd rather see him than "soup man McNabb" throwing.

Posted by: grobinette | November 9, 2010 5:41 AM | Report abuse

Heath Schuler

Posted by: rademaar | November 9, 2010 9:27 AM | Report abuse

Mac5 Should be the QB.

Jason was done wrong, and like most of our discards, they go else where and prosper, once again.

Grossman is just gross.

Get rid of "Rocket Boy" Kyle. So far his offense stinks, and get damn line & center while you are at it.

Posted by: Tobor58 | November 9, 2010 9:28 AM | Report abuse

I want Rex because the Shanahans deserve to see what it would look like to have a QB that knows the entire playbook in the game.
When Rex gets knocked out for the season.Beck can finish up the season.
McNabb can heal up and get ready for his new team.Philly can enjoy the Skins draft picks.
Jason Campbell still holds the ball too long.
After the Shanahans shenanigans in Detroit we're just renting McNabb.And the RENT IS TOO DAMN HIGH!!!

Posted by: Weave160 | November 9, 2010 10:01 AM | Report abuse

1. The O-line has been unable to play "Shanahan ball", and trying to make McNabb step up into a non-existent pocket does not work, and
2. the "genius" coach won't change his scheme to match his personnel - more roll outs to keep the defense "honest". Shanahan is not "Norman Einstein", right Joe?

Posted by: pjohn2 | November 9, 2010 10:05 AM | Report abuse

Reid left off Colt Brennan:) But including Campbell is stupid he sucked when he was here the best news was him going somewhere else. Now IF it works out for him there good for him.. but right now he is still the backup QB until Gradkowski gets healthy. McNabb is best for now.. but don't see McNabb as long term answer. Rex is fine for backup.. but the answer hopefully will be who the SKins draft as their franchise QB next year. Unless Beck has some hidden talent no one has seen yet...

Posted by: sovine08 | November 9, 2010 10:21 AM | Report abuse

Pjohn2 wrote:

1. The O-line has been unable to play "Shanahan ball", and trying to make McNabb step up into a non-existent pocket does not work, and
2. the "genius" coach won't change his scheme to match his personnel - more roll outs to keep the defense "honest". Shanahan is not "Norman Einstein", right Joe?

I totally agree with you without proper protection winning games becomes extemely difficult. Did you see the Giants game this week and the amount of time Eli had to throw the ball. You could make the argument that they have better recievers than the Skins but that will only go but so far. Eli had Secret Service protection out there on Sunday and it showed their "O" line dominated and blew Seattle out!!

If your QB is constatnly harrassed, roughed up and running for his life you should expect him either get sacked, fumble,throw interceptions or worst get injured. If Kyle knows that McNabb has a hamstring injury which is aggravated by running then why put him in a position to do just that "run." I am not trying to start stuff here but it seems like they are putting him in a position to either injure(fail)himself. It does not make sense to me, if you want him healthy the best thing to do is to protect him and give him time to pass.

This whole situation in my opinion is risky for McNabb I have not heard that they offered him a contract extention thus far so if he continues to play and gets hurt towards the end of the season then I would imagine that his leverage or negotiation postion drops considerably. The Skins in my opinion could show the fans that he is really our QB by getting his extenstion deal signed before the end of the season.

Overall I really don't think we have a QB controversy here, I think the post should focus their attention on the offensive line and embarrass them into playing better.

Posted by: 70chiponwhite | November 9, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Don't get some of these comments. Investing in a QB who can't throw only makes sense if you retain and wildly overpay QB-who-can't-throw for 4-5 years?

Posted by: Godfather_of_Goals | November 9, 2010 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Why is this even a question? As if Campbell or Grossman combined were ever as good as Donovan is on a bad day.

Posted by: ck_one | November 9, 2010 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Well, no matter how poorly McNabb is doing behind our putrid Oline, Lavar Arrington is more than sipping the Kool-aid. On his show yesterday Lavar says that the Skins can easily go 10-6!!!!!

Posted by: AlfromAlexandria | November 9, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

I guess all that Jason Campbell needs is what ALL NFL QB's need: decent OL, decent receiving corps, and non moronic play calling.

Posted by: dc4life | November 9, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse

With the weak offensive line that the Skins have, any Skins QB is made to look bad, and that would include Peyton or other top QBs if they played QB for the Skins.

Posted by: MylesSchulberg | November 9, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

With the weak offensive line that the Skins have, any Skins QB is made to look bad, and that would include Peyton or other top QBs if they played QB for the Skins.

Posted by: MylesSchulberg | November 9, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

With the weak offensive line that the Skins have, any Skins QB is made to look bad, and that would include Peyton or other top QBs if they played QB for the Skins.

Posted by: MylesSchulberg | November 9, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

With the weak offensive line that the Skins have, any Skins QB is made to look bad, and that would include Peyton or other top QBs if they played QB for the Skins.

Posted by: MylesSchulberg | November 9, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

With the weak offensive line that the Skins have, any Skins QB is made to look bad, and that would include Peyton or other top QBs if they played QB for the Skins.

Posted by: MylesSchulberg | November 9, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Jason Campbell wasn't nearly as bad as many Redskins fans thought he was .... and McNabb isn't nearly as good as many fans think he is.

Think back to when we first heard Shanahan was hired ... and all of the possible moves he could have made to start fixing this team.

Posted by: FootballCardSnatcher | November 9, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

McNabb is better, but I'd rather have JC and two more good young offensive linemen. Got to quit giving away draft picks, especially to teams in our own division.

Posted by: jburnetti | November 9, 2010 11:21 PM | Report abuse

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