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McNabb says he isn't hearing footsteps of Bradford, McCoy or Tebow

The quarterbacks at Redskins Park today included Donovan McNabb, Sam Bradford and Colt McCoy. The quarterbacks at home included Jason Campbell. That's not the breakdown Redskins' fans expected a week ago.

The team has raised some eyebrows by following through with visits with some of the top quarterback prospects who will be available in this month's draft. They could've canceled those visits after acquiring McNabb Sunday night, but they obviously didn't.
Bradford was at Redskins Park today, as was McCoy and Tim Tebow could be through later this week.

Asked whether the team is still considering drafting a quarterback, Shanahan was predictably coy.

"We go according to our draft. We're going to take a look at that board. There's a lot of possibilities," he said. "You got free agency, you have the draft, you've got possible trades. Like I said all along, we're going to try to put the best football team together and there's a lot of intangibles that go into it."

That doesn't clear a whole lot up, but it would sound as if the team is at the very least doing due diligence to make sure it considers every option.

But it does seem a bit odd to introduce your new quarterback while hosting these prospects. McNabb said he spotted McCoy in the building and was aware that Bradford was in town and knew that Jimmy Clausen had already passed through. Since the Eagles drafted Kevin Kolb in 2007, McNabb had grown accustomed to looking over his shoulder, but he wasn't worried about the Redskins visiting with prospects.

"That's really none of my concern," McNabb said. "My focus is to make sure I'm prepared and ready to go and to try to help this team."

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By Rick Maese  |  April 6, 2010; 2:55 PM ET
Categories:  Donovan McNabb , NFL Draft  | Tags: Colt McCoy, Donovan McNabb, Jason Campbell, Jimmy Clausen, Kevin Kolb, Sam Bradford, Tim Tebow, Washington Redskins  
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Comments

"How does that square with reports that he requested or at least preferred to go to the Redskins?"

This is the best question that no one has yet to ask.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 6, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Many people are saying that Shannaplan will upgrade the OL before the start of the season. Instead of giving a blanket statement..Here are the available avenues to upgrade the worst OL in the NFL.

CURRENT OL
LT-Rookie
LG-Dockery
C-Rabach
RG- BMW
RT- Hicks
DRAFT
#4-Williams/Bulaga LT
REMAINING AVAILABLE UFA OT
Flozell Adams 12 yrs 6-7/340
Mike Gandy 9 yrs 6-4/310
Tra Thomas 12 yrs 6-7/317
Levi Jones 8 yrs 6-5/307
Damion McIntosh 10 yrs 6-4/328
Orlando Pace 12 yrs 6-7/320
Ephraim Salaam 12 yrs 6-7/310

TRADES
??
ROSTER CUTS
??
UNDRAFTED FA
??

Posted by: Diesel44 | April 6, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

McNabb passer rankings by year

2009: 12th
2008: 15th
2007: 9th
2006: 4th (10 games)
2005: 16th (9 games)
2004: 4th
2003: 16th
2002: 7th
2001: 7th
2000: 18th

I think its clear that he isn't doing much damage with his legs anymore. In his Pro Bowl years (2000-2004), he averaged 450 yards running with a yds/carry of 6. In the last 2 years, its 140 yards with yds/carry under 4

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 6, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

If I were McNabb, I wouldn't be worried about hearing footsteps from Bardford or Clausen. If he's hearing footsteps from ware or osi ... yeah, that's a concern.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 6, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Bean, he called you an idiot because you're freaking out on April 6.

You (and others) are also questioning a coach with a PROVEN, RECENT track record of building o-lines with unheralded talent, because his schemes don't require the conventional studs.

People need to take a chill pill, for real.

Posted by: jcabana | April 6, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Thank you, that's all I'm trying to say.

Posted by: zjfr2 | April 6, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

McNabb passer rankings by year

2009: 12th
2008: 15th
2007: 9th
2006: 4th (10 games)
2005: 16th (9 games)
2004: 4th
2003: 16th
2002: 7th
2001: 7th
2000: 18th

I think its clear that he isn't doing much damage with his legs anymore. In his Pro Bowl years (2000-2004), he averaged 450 yards running with a yds/carry of 6. In the last 2 years, its 140 yards with yds/carry under 4

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 6, 2010 3:03 PM
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I don't care what he does with his legs. I am more interested in how well he throws. Let the offensive line coach worry about keeping him from scrambling to avert sacks. Note that some of his best years were when he had TO to throw to. There's nothing like having that big go-to receiver...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | April 6, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse

As I pointed out before, McNabb got sacked a good bit in philly last year and lost more yards to sacks in 15 games than Campbell did in 16.

Trading 2 games vs the Skins defense for 2 games vs philly's defense is close to a wash. philly's d was tied for 3rd in sacks in 2009 -- The Skins d was 9th, but with only 4 less sacks.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 6, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Bean, he called you an idiot because you're freaking out on April 6.

Where did I freak out?? Where did I say all hope was lost, and the season was doomed as was the future?? Please point these things out to me....

All I said was that I don't agree with this trade....is that freaking out? Was defending my point freaking out??


Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 6, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

How does that square with reports that he requested or at least preferred to go to the Redskins?

Posted by: FITS | April 6, 2010 2:53 PM

Easily. He wanted to stay in Philly. He didn't request a trade. When that became an inevitability, there were teams for which he had no interest in playing who showed the most interest. He didn't pick that group. When the Skins expressed an interest he said he would prefer to come here. That's not a "plan." That's just a circumstance.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | April 6, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

The thing here isn't that the oline wont be touched. We all know that Shanny and Brucy will do SOMETHING to the oline over the next 5 or so months before the season starts. We all know and agree to that.

The problem is our ability to add young, core players deminishes each time we trade our draft picks. We have 3 clear holes on the line. BMW is not an answer at RG. He isn't, he played alright but certainly was not great and could/should be upgraded. We have no LT. Not a bad one, or a terrible one... we simply do NOT HAVE ONE. We have a RT who has proven that he is awful and usually hurt.

Looking at our picks, yes you can find guards in the late rounds... but not ones that come in and start right away. They take a year if not two or three. Our line is in a desperate position. Dockery is mediocre at best, Rabach is bad... and we have the 3 other holes... It will be extremely difficult to upgrade it significantly during the rest of the offseason and we have mortgaged our ability to upgrade it over time through the draft by continually trading away all of our draft picks.

Posted by: peoplearestupid1 | April 6, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Since the season starts in April now... Does anyone know who the Redskins are playing this Sunday? Where they're playing, what time they're kicking off?

Because these are things fans usually know about their team, you know, the days leading up to their team's game.

Maybe someone can let me know who they drafted, signed, or were there any trades made by the Redskins on draft day.

Thanks.

Huh? What's that? Whaaaaaa??? Stop playin'... get outta here... NONE of that hasn't happened yet?!?!?!?!

To look at some of these comments, I'd doubt that.

Posted by: RedDMV | April 6, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

"I think its clear that he isn't doing much damage with his legs anymore. In his Pro Bowl years (2000-2004), he averaged 450 yards running with a yds/carry of 6. In the last 2 years, its 140 yards with yds/carry under 4."Posted by: zcezcest1

Not sure how relevant that is. McNabb doesn't take off upfield as he once did, that's true. But he does scramble quite a bit, and make plays outside the pocket -- something Campbell doesn't do very often.

The usual criticisms of McNabb -- that he's not all that accurate, that he's injury-prone -- have some validity.

Posted by: Samson151 | April 6, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

As I pointed out before, McNabb got sacked a good bit in philly last year and lost more yards to sacks in 15 games than Campbell did in 16.

Trading 2 games vs the Skins defense for 2 games vs philly's defense is close to a wash. philly's d was tied for 3rd in sacks in 2009 -- The Skins d was 9th, but with only 4 less sacks.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 6, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Sooooo what exactly is the point you are trying to make?

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 6, 2010 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Thats a joke right? Thats a fuc&ing joke? Please? Shanahan, fine upgrade. Agreed. Mcnabb upgrade agreed.

Outside of that they are all lateral moves...

...really PSP i have just lost all respect for you.

Posted by: peoplearestupid1

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I was trying to stay civil with you, but this is one of the dumbest posts and senses of logic I have ever read.

"You are banking on a 30 year old rb who has had 2 seasons or so of over 400 touches to be an upgrade over Betts."

Yes, I am going to say a 30 year old RB with starting experience and an 1800 yard season under his belt is an upgrade over a 31 year old, injury prone, career backup that could never wrestle a consistent role in his entire career here.

"And one way or another Artis Hicks is a backup, much like Will Montgomery was. He is going to be playing all that much, and if hes a backup on OUR LINE... well we all know thats not a good thing...."

I'm not sure this even needs a response. Hicks and Williams were both backups, and therefore they're equal? Shocking.

If he's a backup on OUR line just like he was a backup on MINNESOTA'S line, then we all know that it's actually a GOOD thing, not the other way around. I don't know path of reasoning you took to conclude what you did, but it's surely devoid of any logic.

"[Willie Parker] doesn't play special teams, doesn't run up the middle and doesn't break tackles. He is actually WORSE than Rock for this team BECAUSE he does not have a roll."

Hmmm, a career speed back won't have a role on this team because he doesn't have a playing style that perfectly matches the exact same style the two other running backs on the roster use. Brilliant thinking. A smart GM/Coach would have acquired a power back to back-up the power back that backs-up the starting power back. You're right.

Posted by: psps23 | April 6, 2010 3:17 PM | Report abuse

I think what frustrates me in all of this is that I was under the impression that Shallen had this "plan". They talked about a "plan" that they presented to Snyder who signed off on it. They eschewed early FAs and noted that they had a "plan".

It gave me the feeling that sensible adults were finally running the show and the organization was going to be free from the knee-jerk instability of an adolescent playing fantasy football with the Skins - throwing $$ and picks out the window to get whatever shiny new player was most coveted on the market.

This whole dive for McNabb feels alot like the latter and not the former.

If we're making a SB run, why not go hardcore for Dansby and/or Peppers who all of sudden would look real nice in a Skins uniform on a defense making a playoff run?

If we're making a SB run why did we low-ball solid vet Olinemen like Barry Sims and Tony Pashos?

?!?!?!?

Posted by: p1funk | April 6, 2010 3:17 PM | Report abuse

red, no one is suggesting that, no one has suggested that, and to think that we are, is really kind of dumb on your part.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 6, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Bean, he called you an idiot because you're freaking out on April 6.

You (and others) are also questioning a coach with a PROVEN, RECENT track record of building o-lines with unheralded talent, because his schemes don't require the conventional studs.

People need to take a chill pill, for real.

Posted by: jcabana

Did he bring Alex Gibbs with him? Gibbs was the guy responsible for all of those great Olines in Denver.

The team did not pick up players off of the trash heap and make them into good Oline players. They selected players in the draft that had the right physical traits. The problem in this situation is that he has nothing to work with in regards to players on the current roster or picks for guys in the draft.

Shanahan also uses an Oline that is small. Very few if any of his olinement were over 300lbs. It will ordinarily take a few years before he will get the players he needs to run his zone blocking scheme. But seeing as how the Redskins have no draft picks this year and are already giving away next years, it will take much longer.

McNabb is not known for having a quick release or fast decision making ability. He will get killed behind the current Oline. The good thing is then it will ony cost a 4th in next years draft.

Posted by: srobert1117 | April 6, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

It's called red herring. We want other teams to think we're going to draft everyone except who we actually ARE, to try and induce someone to trade up.

Probably why the Okung visit was 'quiet'.

Draft picks will depend on who we can trade on/before draft day.

I'm as concerned as the next guy about the lack of picks, but Shanallen has proven that there are no sacred cows and they're not afraid to make moves, so I'm reserving judgement until we take the field in September.

Posted by: Rypien11 | April 6, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Folks are complaining that the McNabb trade reeks of something that would've went down in the past with Cerrato here.

Except for one thing.

HE ISN'T HERE ANYMORE! Shanahan and Allen are.

We all know that all white guys look alike.

But they don't necessarily think alike.

Posted by: RedDMV | April 6, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

What the he11 were the Washingtons thinking trading for a 33 year old QB. Don't Washington know that McNabb will retire next year, because all the great quarterbacks retire at age 34.

Posted by: skinshaveaGM | April 6, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

I don't care what he does with his legs. I am more interested in how well he throws. Let the offensive line coach worry about keeping him from scrambling to avert sacks. Note that some of his best years were when he had TO to throw to. There's nothing like having that big go-to receiver...

Posted by: RedSkinHead

OK, I buy that. Now, what big 'go-to' WR do the Skins have? And what OL do we have?

I think there is reason for optimism with Thomas, Kelly and Mitchell working with the new coaches (McCardell and the Shanahans). I'm less optimistic on the OL. There are a lot of ??? to address.

With competent coaching (which Shanahan is) and an average OL, this team would have won 10-12 games last year. The OL is the issue.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 6, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Why does the McNabb trade make sense? I understand that many people were unhappy w/ JC, but how does it make sense to give our #37 pick to a division rival (and a 2011 3rd/4th rounder) in exchange for a 33 year old QB on the decline?

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | April 6, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Have to check out these QBs other teams may be interested in when you are trying to posture for trading value with that #4 pick.

Posted by: BrokenClipboard | April 6, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse

And why do we continue to low-ball someone like Levi Jones who coudl provide cover at LT if our Oline pick busts or isn't up to snuff and/or could start at RT for a team trying to make some serious playoff runs in the next 2-3 years?

I think we should def draft some Olinemen, but it's hard to envision Stephon Heyer and some rookie tackle anchoring an Oline that's supposed to take us deep into the playoffs.

Posted by: p1funk | April 6, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

red

"To look at some of these comments, I'd doubt that."


I feel ya, bro'.

But grant us Chicken Littles our 'The sky is fallin' moment before we all settle down and realize the unimaginable:

Donovan McNabb is the starting quarterback for the Washington Redskins.

And the thing is, he chose us, and not some other down on its luck franchise.

It's like waking up in bed with a fine woman who has a gullible twin sister.

And they both like you.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 6, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Draft day is too unclear to predict because we still have a couple of moves coming up.

For starters, what will we get for Campbell. Everyone said McNabb will get a fourth rounder and he pulled a second and a 3/4 for next year. Word is Campbell is only worth a 5th. Perhaps, but maybe a starting QB for Buffalo or the like is worth a 3rd or 4th instead.

And then there's all this business with Haynesworth...

As it stands now, it seams to make the most sense to take Okung/Bulaga in the 1st round, then in the fourth, you have your choice between Kyle Calloway, Marshal Newhouse, Jason Fox, Selvish Capers, Ed Wang and Adam Ulatoski. If we are fortunate enough to get Calloway, he could replace Heyer at RT by mid-season.

Taking OT in the 1st is the (rather obvious) key to all this, but a good selection in round 4 is also key.

Posted by: edvar | April 6, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

As I pointed out before, McNabb got sacked a good bit in philly last year and lost more yards to sacks in 15 games than Campbell did in 16.

Trading 2 games vs the Skins defense for 2 games vs philly's defense is close to a wash. philly's d was tied for 3rd in sacks in 2009 -- The Skins d was 9th, but with only 4 less sacks.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 6, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Sooooo what exactly is the point you are trying to make?

Posted by: skinsfanintampa

That McNabb is prone to getting sacked. Behind a better OL than we had in DC, McNabb lost as many yards as we did. Sacks were a big problem last year, unless the OL improves a bunch, we risk seeing the same thing this year.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 6, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Folks are complaining that the McNabb trade reeks of something that would've went down in the past with Cerrato here.

Except for one thing.

HE ISN'T HERE ANYMORE! Shanahan and Allen are.

We all know that all white guys look alike.

But they don't necessarily think alike.

Posted by: RedDMV | April 6, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse


There may be new chefs in the kitchen, but if they are still going to whip up Snerratto Specials, you'll understand if I'm skeptical of the dish.

Maybe it will taste different, but you understand I've had this dish before and I don't care for it...

Posted by: p1funk | April 6, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse


Michael C. Wright, of The Florida Times-Union, reports Jacksonville Jaguars head coach Jack Del Rio said in a text message that the team is not interested in Washington Redskins QB Jason Campbell.

Posted by: skinfanman | April 6, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Since the season starts in April now... Does anyone know who the Redskins are playing this Sunday? Where they're playing, what time they're kicking off?

Posted by: RedDMV | April 6, 2010 3:13 PM

Here you go RED. Instead of the same tired cliches and since the season doesn't start for another 5 months, here are the available avenues to upgrade the worst OL in the NFL. So have at it…

CURRENT OL
LT-Rookie
LG-Dockery
C-Rabach
RG- BMW
RT- Hicks

DRAFT
#4-Williams/Bulaga LT

REMAINING AVAILABLE UFA OT
Flozell Adams 12 yrs 6-7/340
Mike Gandy 9 yrs 6-4/310
Tra Thomas 12 yrs 6-7/317
Levi Jones 8 yrs 6-5/307
Damion McIntosh 10 yrs 6-4/328
Orlando Pace 12 yrs 6-7/320
Ephraim Salaam 12 yrs 6-7/310

TRADES
??

ROSTER CUTS
??

UNDRAFTED FA
??

Posted by: Diesel44 | April 6, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Can I have my two wins over dallas this year plz? screw the rest of the season...


Posted by: DikShuttle | April 6, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

With competent coaching (which Shanahan is) and an average OL, this team would have won 10-12 games last year. The OL is the issue.

Posted by: zcezcest1

Puff Puff give. They did not win a game in the NFC East last year. Need a new Oline is basically like saying that 50% of your offensive players blow. The wrs are below average. The problem is that there is no way to upgrade all of these positions as there are no good players on the market and the Redskins have no draft picks.

Posted by: srobert1117 | April 6, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

p1funk;

because none of them are QB's.

Shanny has a thing for Qb's. He coached one of the greatest.

One draft pick to get a guy he thinks he can win with now and a couple years down the road -

A) does not mortgage our future
b) does not mean we are in win now mode and are going on a one year run at the SB

one move does not a offseason make.

I look at the one move vs the other 7+ that were passed on, or the ones that were signed to contracts that cannot hurt us whilst getting rid of our cap heavy under-performing players like ARE etc...


Posted by: Zeebs | April 6, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Maybe the natives are right... this team is cursed!

Vinny's spirit is now in the bodies of Shanahan and Allen!

Posted by: Alan4 | April 6, 2010 3:28 PM | Report abuse

We all know that all white guys look alike.
Posted by: RedDMV | April 6, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

yeah, w/ the lights on anyway...

Posted by: DikShuttle | April 6, 2010 3:28 PM | Report abuse

well bean, what is the point of complaining over the fact they traded for McNabb?

I know how you covet draft picks and all that, but you're acting like the season starts April 11.

How do you know that they can't re-coup the third via trade?

What makes you SO sure that whatever move that Shanahan makes WON'T upgrade the offensive line? I find it funny that you and others assume by trading the 37th pick there is NO WAY that the line can still get upgraded.

You and others are acting like the guys who are currently on the roster is the roster they're taking into the season. That there isn't ANY other possible move that will be made during the off-season that will upgrade and bring stability to the roster, the offensive line particularly.

To carry it this way, bean, "is really kind of dumb on your part..."

Posted by: RedDMV | April 6, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Can I have my two wins over dallas this year plz? screw the rest of the season...


Posted by: DikShuttle

McNabb vs dallas last year? Not pretty. On the other hand, McNabb torched the jints the way Sherman torched Atlanta

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 6, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

p1funk, because you do not know what MS's plan is or can't see the DM trade in context of MS's plan does not mean he does not have a plan.

==============

Who ever said that MS was going to draft OT with picks 4 & 37? Peeps assume that because they have a plan in how the skins need to be fixed, that any moves MS makes outside of their plans is stupid and has jeopardized the Skins future.

Stop complaining out of ignorance.

Trust the Shanaplan.

Posted by: Curzon417 | April 6, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

ppstr8, I'd have fixed the line, OT at #4, and OT at #37, and still brought back Levi for depth.

Once the line was not fixed, but exponentially better, I believe you'd have seen an improvement in the running game, which then trickles down to an improved passing game.

If JC STILL sucked with an improved line, I'd have used a high pick in 2011 to get a qb.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 6, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Is 2011 supposed to be a good year for QBs in the draft?

With your scenario, I could see the skins having to part with even more picks to move up and draft the qb they want.(this is assuming Shannahan improves the team to the point where they don't have a top 10 pick)

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | April 6, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

"Michael C. Wright, of The Florida Times-Union, reports Jacksonville Jaguars head coach Jack Del Rio said in a text message that the team is not interested in Washington Redskins QB Jason Campbell."

Methinks the NFL head coaches are on to something about Campbell.

All of our complaints about the guy are rounding into the a sad truth: he's another first round quarterback bust.

Oh well.

Someone should send him an Arena League schedule.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 6, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

I think what frustrates me in all of this is that I was under the impression that Shallen had this "plan". They talked about a "plan" that they presented to Snyder who signed off on it. They eschewed early FAs and noted that they had a "plan".

It gave me the feeling that sensible adults were finally running the show and the organization was going to be free from the knee-jerk instability of an adolescent playing fantasy football with the Skins - throwing $$ and picks out the window to get whatever shiny new player was most coveted on the market.

This whole dive for McNabb feels alot like the latter and not the former.

If we're making a SB run, why not go hardcore for Dansby and/or Peppers who all of sudden would look real nice in a Skins uniform on a defense making a playoff run?

If we're making a SB run why did we low-ball solid vet Olinemen like Barry Sims and Tony Pashos?

?!?!?!?

Posted by: p1funk | April 6, 2010 3:17 PM | Report abuse

p1funk;

because none of them are QB's.

Shanny has a thing for Qb's. He coached one of the greatest.

One draft pick to get a guy he thinks he can win with now and a couple years down the road -

A) does not mortgage our future
b) does not mean we are in win now mode and are going on a one year run at the SB

one move does not a offseason make.

I look at the one move vs the other 7+ that were passed on, or the ones that were signed to contracts that cannot hurt us whilst getting rid of our cap heavy under-performing players like ARE etc...


Posted by: Zeebs | April 6, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Zeebs | April 6, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

TO EVERYONE ON THIS BLOG: For the last few months we have all debated the 2 schools of thought on building a team. 1) Get a franchise QB first, protection second, and 2) Protect your QB first and find him second.... Well, it looks like Mike and Bruce subscribe the the first school. They both must obviously feel that this team is not as bad as some of us think it is. They are making the best out of the hand they were dealt. I believe that they are doing the best they can for this franchise.
This in ONE move. I know its not easy to trade back from #4 but what if they trade back a few spots and manage to pick a great LT and also a RT? Perhaps we resign Levi in a few weeks? What about this incredibly deep draft? A few better options in the later rounds this year than in years past right? Thats what we keep saying up here isn't it?
I have read this blog for over 2 years but rarely commented. I am no supporter or crucifier of Campbell. I like his professionalism and heart. McNabb will bring more to the field than JC will and I am looking forward to this. Our coach and GM this year are MUCH better at building a team than we have had in quite a while so I trust their judgement...

I also recall a few bloggers stating that we could rebuild the line and get a QB, that it wasn't an either/or situation. Looks to me like Bruce and Mike agree!

And I want to leave you with this little nugget: All the analysts that have been bashing the Skins for years over offseason decisions are finally saying that this is a good move! Just chillax and chew on the next few weeks.

Hail!

Posted by: sweetsweetlou | April 6, 2010 3:33 PM | Report abuse

* meep meep *

new post...

so much news...

so much news...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | April 6, 2010 3:33 PM | Report abuse

p1funk;

because none of them are QB's.

Shanny has a thing for Qb's. He coached one of the greatest.

One draft pick to get a guy he thinks he can win with now and a couple years down the road -

A) does not mortgage our future
b) does not mean we are in win now mode and are going on a one year run at the SB

one move does not a offseason make.

I look at the one move vs the other 7+ that were passed on, or the ones that were signed to contracts that cannot hurt us whilst getting rid of our cap heavy under-performing players like ARE etc...


Posted by: Zeebs | April 6, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse


So this is about satisfying Shanny's QB fetish??

That doesn't exactly conjure up tons of confidence.

Maybe Shanny thinks he can with this guy now, but is that a rational thought given the state of the REST of the team??

We are in "win-now" mode. I don't see how people can argue otherwise. You don't give away high draft picks to get a 33 year old QB because you plan to be competitive 2-3 years down the stretch.

If we are not in "win-now" mode, then this move makes even less sense to me and seems even more irrational.

Posted by: p1funk | April 6, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

p1funk;

you kepp saying high draft picks... they gave away 1 high draft pick in this years draft, and one, possibly in next years draft.

if we were in win now mode and shanny was here on the short, knowing synder penchant for FA splash, shanny could have submitted a plan about getting every FA possbile.
Pep
Dans
etc...

he did not.

1 move man, one move.

Posted by: Zeebs | April 6, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: DikShuttle

McNabb vs dallas last year? Not pretty. On the other hand, McNabb torched the jints the way Sherman torched Atlanta

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 6, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

And for the last decade McNabb has pretty much owned the Cowboys and the whole division. Not mention the biggest problem in both those games was Dallas' huge oline mashing the Eagles small front, they dominated time of possesion and made the Eagles play catch up from the beginning.

Posted by: zjfr2 | April 6, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

"Here you go RED. Instead of the same tired cliches and since the season doesn't start for another 5 months..."


Posted by: Diesel44


They're "tired" to you because it underlines just how exaggerated your discontent really is.

Those question marks you have are EXACTLY why we should hold judgement until at least after the draft.


But go ahead and picket in the parking lot in Ashburn if you think that'll get McNabb back to Philly and upgrade the Redskins' offensive line. But bring some water 'cause it's hot out there...


p1, RE: "Chefs and Dishes"

Have you had a bacon cheeseburger from Burger King? Have you had one from Five Guys?

Totally different burgers even though they have the same name, right?

Posted by: RedDMV | April 6, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

"How does that square with reports that he requested or at least preferred to go to the Redskins?"

This is the best question that no one has yet to ask.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 6, 2010 3:00 PM |

Really, who cares?

Posted by: bones21 | April 6, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

The team did not pick up players off of the trash heap and make them into good Oline players. They selected players in the draft that had the right physical traits. The problem in this situation is that he has nothing to work with in regards to players on the current roster or picks for guys in the draft.


Posted by: srobert1117 | April 6, 2010 3:19 PM

You're wrong. Check your facts. Both the '97 and '98 team had o-lines made up of mostly free agents. Zimmerman, Swayne, Schlereth (former Skin), Tony Jones and Brian Habib started their careers on other teams. Swayne and Zimmerman were older guys when they got to Denver.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | April 6, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse

you kepp saying high draft picks... they gave away 1 high draft pick in this years draft, and one, possibly in next years draft.

if we were in win now mode and shanny was here on the short, knowing synder penchant for FA splash, shanny could have submitted a plan about getting every FA possbile.
Pep
Dans
etc...

he did not.

1 move man, one move.

Posted by: Zeebs

Zeebs. They could not go out and sign Pepper and Dansby. Those guys were signed to long term deals. Every GM in the league expects there to be a salary cap in the future. The Redskins would have set themselves up for a cap disaster had they tried to sign those guys.

You keep saying 1 move. The 1 move added a player whose numbers were not that much better than the guy he is replacing. In doing so they parted with two more picks. This year's draft is supposed to be one of the best drafts in year and they just gave up the 37th pick. This is a team with a ton of holes and now they don't have any way of filling them. All that for a QB that is marginally better and on the downside of his career. And he was marginally better in an offense with far better personnel.

It'd trades like these that set the franchise back for years to come.

The only way that the McNabb trade would have made sense is if he was the final piece of the puzzle or the Redskins had a bunch of draft picks.

Posted by: srobert1117 | April 6, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

The reason he got sacked so much wasn't just a problem with the O'line it's because he holds the ball too long (Jason Campbell anyone???). He also doesn't pick out his receivers very well. He's really at his best when he's moving around in the pocket. Even though I can't stand Theeesman (no typo that's how it said) he was dead-on after the Deadskins-Eagles MNF game last year when he called McNabb "The most inaccurate starting QB in the NFL." And the Eagles won the game easily. All in all he was a terrific QB most of the time for the Birds but his time has passed. His yardage, pass attempts type stats last year were bloated and not reflective of how he did. Passer ratings are usually dead-on. His were not top 10 QB ratings. And his legs do meqan a lot. He's most dangerous beacuse of the threat t scramble and run. In his prime He was twice the QB Vick was mainly because he moved and he's huge and way harder to bring down than Vick. But not anymore. He's just huge. BTW Little Danny Boy. Thanks for the High Pick!!! That's practically a 1st rounder.

Posted by: billm32 | April 6, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

The reason he got sacked so much wasn't just a problem with the O'line it's because he holds the ball too long (Jason Campbell anyone???). He also doesn't pick out his receivers very well. He's really at his best when he's moving around in the pocket. Even though I can't stand Theeesman (no typo that's how it said) he was dead-on after the Deadskins-Eagles MNF game last year when he called McNabb "The most inaccurate starting QB in the NFL." And the Eagles won the game easily. All in all he was a terrific QB most of the time for the Birds but his time has passed. His yardage, pass attempts type stats last year were bloated and not reflective of how he did. Passer ratings are usually dead-on. His were not top 10 QB ratings. And his legs do meqan a lot. He's most dangerous beacuse of the threat t scramble and run. In his prime He was twice the QB Vick was mainly because he moved and he's huge and way harder to bring down than Vick. But not anymore. He's just huge. BTW Little Danny Boy. Thanks for the High Pick!!! That's practically a 1st rounder.

Posted by: billm32 | April 6, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

I can assure you deals are not done. There's no way we enter the season with Portis, Johnson AND Parker. Portis is gone. Haynesworth is gone and possibly Rogers and Landry

Posted by: amontgomery1 | April 6, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Seems like Reid is looking over McNabb's shoulder too. I wish the race card wouldn't be played so much by WaPo writers but it is - whether you're black or you have white guilt.

I wish WaPo columnists and readers would just focus on what's good for the team, not what's good for their respective feel good scenarios.

I preferred long ago that Jason Campbell would be let go, but not because he's black. I wanted him gone because he can't win the big games and can't amass the important stats when the game is on the line - namely, early in games or late 4th Qtr drives to win games.

McNabb can and I support the move to get him on the roster. Am I showing white guilt now?

(hint: I don't think so)

btw, I voted for Obama too. like I want what's best for the Skins, I want what's best for the country, black or white.

Posted by: dc1020008 | April 6, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

You're wrong. Check your facts. Both the '97 and '98 team had o-lines made up of mostly free agents. Zimmerman, Swayne, Schlereth (former Skin), Tony Jones and Brian Habib started their careers on other teams. Swayne and Zimmerman were older guys when they got to Denver.

Posted by: learnedhand1

No you are wrong. Those guys were not gotten off of the scrap heap. Zimmerman and Habib were there before Shanahan. Schlereth had won a pro-bowl in Washington so hardly grabbing a guy off of the scrap heap. Swayne was a good player before he got to Denver. All of those players were very good prior to Denver picking them up. Hardly scrap heap players.

After that intial group of players he consistently build the Oline through the draft. Ryan Clady, Ryan Harrison, Ben Hamilton and Chris Kuper were all drafted by the Broncos.

Posted by: srobert1117 | April 6, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Bean, he called you an idiot because you're freaking out on April 6.

You (and others) are also questioning a coach with a PROVEN, RECENT track record of building o-lines with unheralded talent, because his schemes don't require the conventional studs.

People need to take a chill pill, for real.

Posted by: jcabana | April 6, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Thank you, that's all I'm trying to say.

Posted by: zjfr2 | April 6, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

I agree shanahan knows what he's got in the o-line players here and he will know how to use them okung love to have him Eric berry love to have him Sam Bradford if he's there and okung is gone love to have him trade down and get more picks great finally the redskins have options and it's not gonna kills us if we don't take a certian player I hate it when people that have never played can make statements like they truely understand what's really going on. Me myself I hope they draft Russel Okung in the 1st. Draft QB Dan LeFevour in the 4th for mcnabb to teach and the absolute most important get the fat lazy overpaid waste of space haynesworth out of here for anything

Posted by: Superman321 | April 6, 2010 6:18 PM | Report abuse

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