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McNabb to the Redskins: Do you like the trade?

By Cindy Boren  |  April 5, 2010; 10:19 AM ET
Categories:  Donovan McNabb  
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Report: Five teams interested in Jason Campbell
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on April 5, 2010 10:19 AM ET
It's only a matter of time before Jason Campbell gets traded from the Redskins.

ESPN 980 in Washington reports there are five teams already interested: Buffalo, Carolina, Oakland, Jacksonville & an unknown team.

Keep in mind that radio station is owned by Dan Snyder, so there is plenty of self-interest in floating so many teams out there to create a market.

Still, we don't think this will be a tough deal to pull off. Consider that David Carr had multiple suitors as a free agent. Campbell would have been the best free agent available by leaps and bounds.

SI's Peter King -- who had a fabulous writeup about Donte' Stallworth Monday -- guesses Campbell could be worth a fifth-rounder. We think he's worth more.

He's far cheaper and younger than McNabb. Campbell may not have the pedigree McNabb does, but we don't think their trade value (or talent level at this point) is that different.

Posted by: zjfr2 | April 5, 2010 10:26 AM | Report abuse

Not too expensive but it means you need to win within the next 3 to 4 years like John Elway in the late 90's. I would have preferred this deal if the rest of the team were getting younger but we've stock piled dinosaurs. We need line and receivers now and need a younger defense tomorrow. A lot of work needs to get done but not a bad deal assuming McNabb signs up for a while and will BUILD from here on out. McNabb will be good for a while with protection (see Kurt Warner, Favre, Manning...)

Posted by: bosa_18 | April 5, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

I hope they do the decent thing and trade him to Carolina or Jax. JC has been a class act and deserves the same from an "unclassy" organization.

And we better get at least a 3rd round pick.

Posted by: Lisa_R | April 5, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse

i am something like 55% in favor of this trade.

Posted by: alex35332 | April 5, 2010 10:31 AM | Report abuse

Yes..

HELL YEAH!

Boooya!

Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 5, 2010 10:31 AM | Report abuse

A 2nd rounder is not an automatic starter in the NFL don't kid yourself, and who says they would have drafted o-line there anyway.

McNabb alone makes the o-line better, Shanny's system makes the o-line better.

Plus there is still the draft and there are still viable options for RT on the open market.

As far as McNabb being injury prone, he had more pass attempts the last few years then any QB so of course he is more likely to get injured. He will have a better running game in Whashington and a coach who will use it.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 5, 2010 10:32 AM | Report abuse

I agree with Wise's take on the situation. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Posted by: hobbes9 | April 5, 2010 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Lisa_R:

Do you really think the Redskins can get a 3rd or better for Campbell? That's laughable. We'd be lucky to get a 6th rounder. This organization does things backwards. They should have traded Campbell BEFORE going after another QB. His draft value would have been higher.

Posted by: Randy_Hawkins | April 5, 2010 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Example of value in rounds 3 or 4????

Jordin Shipley....

...aka our Ed MaCathery (sp?)

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 5, 2010 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Campbell for a ham sammich BEEPS.

Posted by: Diesel44 | April 5, 2010 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: peoplearestupid1 | April 5, 2010 9:43 AM | Report abuse

On balance, I like this trade, but, people, you point out what I think is the biggest potential failing of the deal: that, by the time the 'Skins are good enough to contend, McNabb will be done. Here's why I don't think that will happen. QBs can routinely be effective into their late 30s, especially if they keep themselves in shape and can avoid serious injuries. From what I've read, McNabb works out religiously in the offseason. A key factor, though, is whether the 'Skins' O-line will be able to keep the team's starting QB upright and out of the hospital next year. They've already addressed the interior of the line by signing Artis and Lichtensteiger and moving M. Williams to guard full time, and I am betting that they will address the tackle position in the draft with their current picks and/or with trades to acquire additional picks. If the team makes the right moves, I think that the 'Skins will be a contending team within the 3-4 year window that McNabb probably has left as a top-flight QB.

Posted by: rbpalmer | April 5, 2010 10:33 AM | Report abuse

I hope they do the decent thing and trade him to Carolina or Jax. JC has been a class act and deserves the same from an "unclassy" organization.

And we better get at least a 3rd round pick.

Posted by: Lisa_R | April 5, 2010 10:30 AM |

Lisa,

We are not in preschool who cares if JC is a classy guy, they have paid him millions of dollars I think he will be fine.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 5, 2010 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Vinny...I mean Flounder...are you still living in Snyder's guest house? How are you earning your keep? There's no way that a SYSTEM can make O-lineman that couldn't play arena ball better. It just isn't going to happen. We need players there.

Posted by: Randy_Hawkins | April 5, 2010 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Folks may not realize how committed McNabb is to his conditioning program.

He's smart, athletic, a leader, confident in the division, and fun to watch.

Ask Desean Jackson what his opinion of McNabbster is.

This is GREAT news for our young receivers.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 5, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Yeah Randy I was thinking the same thing. We can't really have any leverage in trade talks when we've already basically shouted from the rooftops that we don't want JC. The only way we can win with this is if 2-3 teams REALLY want Campbell and are willing to outbid each other for him.

Posted by: mattylight | April 5, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Flounder,
In a draft this deep our second round pick should land a player who would typically be a mid 20's first round pick.

Posted by: alex35332 | April 5, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Randy_Hawkins -
"This organization does things backwards. They should have traded Campbell BEFORE going after another QB. His draft value would have been higher. "

Maybe they did and no one was willing to take him. A lot of blame going around without facts but just assumptions.

I mean if I was running a team and I wanted to improve my QB position, well, JC will not even be in my radar screen. Now if I needed to replace the clip holder and it came cheap, then yes.

Posted by: hock1 | April 5, 2010 10:43 AM | Report abuse

Hey 4th Floor, you actually hit on this one for once, I'll give you props for that, and I already read a few posts back you gloating like a 5 year old. Me myself, I never thought the Eagles would be that stupid, but I was proven wrong. Too bad your reputation will be back in the crapper again when the draft comes around and Spiller won't be going to the Skins with the 4th overall. Enjoy your glory for a couple of weeks..

Posted by: ga8085 | April 5, 2010 10:44 AM | Report abuse

QB and RB make no matter when your O-LINE is still HORRIBLE.

When were the redskins last good? When they are a great O-lINE with a bunch of hand me down RB and QB's.

Posted by: dcinmd1 | April 5, 2010 10:44 AM | Report abuse

McNabb is a winner and everyone should be happy about this trade. He is a far better bet this season that Clausen or Bradford and now that 4th overall pick can go to a OT to help the O-line! To say that McNabb is old and that he won't be any good by the time the skins are contenders again is very short sighted. The Skins are contenders right now. If CP responds to the competition at RB, we could have some weapons on offense. I like!

Posted by: skins10 | April 5, 2010 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Example of value in rounds 3 or 4????

Jordin Shipley....

...aka our Ed MaCathery (sp?)

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 5, 2010 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Too bad Skins don't have a third round pick this year.

Posted by: Pepper5 | April 5, 2010 11:00 AM | Report abuse

A 2nd rounder is not an automatic starter in the NFL don't kid yourself, and who says they would have drafted o-line there anyway.

McNabb alone makes the o-line better, Shanny's system makes the o-line better.

Plus there is still the draft and there are still viable options for RT on the open market.

As far as McNabb being injury prone, he had more pass attempts the last few years then any QB so of course he is more likely to get injured. He will have a better running game in Whashington and a coach who will use it.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 5, 2010 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Not 1 (one!) legitimate tackle on the Redskins roster and no 2nd or 3rd round picks. I want what you're smoking....

Posted by: Pepper5 | April 5, 2010 11:03 AM | Report abuse


I'm an Eagles fan and a big McNabb fan, too. It kind of kills me to think of McNabb in a Redskins uniform, but this is what he wanted and may end up being a good thing for him.

This will be great trade for the Redskins if they get serious about addressing the O-line. McNabb always tends to get a little bit like a deer caught in headlights when he faces a strong rush (did you see the Dallas playoff game?) Put him behind a good O-line, give him a good running game, and he will be a great pickup. I don't think he "makes the o-line better", he's not as mobile as he once was. Recall that he has 2 surgically reconstructed knees and is a little thicker in the midsection than he was when he was 25.

I've never really thought that McNabb was ever used properly in his time in Philly. This is a guy that is INCREDIBLY efficient with the football, he has something like 200 TDs to 100 INTs. If you can have a team that leans on the run first, then throws when needed you will win a lot of games with this guy under center.

Posted by: wlawson1 | April 5, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

It's a love/hate with liking this trade. I've spent so many years not liking McNabb, that it's hard to downshift, then hit reverse and cheering him on in the burgundy & gold. From a competitive level, it's a great move. But although it is a business, I'm a JC fan and hope they don't ship him out to the Raiders. He doesn't deserve that.

Posted by: QSkinzfan | April 5, 2010 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Who knows? I guess we'll find out. I still believe O-line is the most important piece to fix first irregardless of who's under center. McNabb can't scramble like he once could, but he still knows how to move around the pocket. He'll be moving alot this year if he doesn't get any protection.

Posted by: mikpol | April 5, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

The Washington R-words: the elephant graveyard of NFL talent.

I feel bad for Jason Campbell, who never had a chance behind the porous offensive line he had. Neither will McNabb, for that matter.

The last time we got a highly-touted Philadelphia Eagles player it was Jeremiah Trotter (how'd that work out?).

I thought Shanahan was supposed to favor slowly building a team the right way vs. over-paying for over-the-hill talent. Guess its all the same as it ever was around here.

Posted by: JeffreyFearing | April 5, 2010 1:02 PM | Report abuse

I notice a lot of posters who like this trade also thought I was a fool for stating that CP was finished before last season began.

I was right then and I am right now.

The Skins are not one player removed from greatness.

You do not trade the future for two years of production.


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Posted by: oldnova | April 5, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Hey, JeffreyFearing, I'm sure you would just sit back and be patient while the Redskins take three or four years to build a playoff caliber team...NOT.

Do you really want to go through the horror of watching a rookie QB take his lumps?

This way, they can pick a top O-lineman with the #4 pick, groom Colt Brennan or another young QB, and be competitive right now. Sounds like a winner to me.

Posted by: StevefromSacto | April 5, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

I'm a Philadelphia-native that works in DC and follows the Redskins as much as I do the Eagles.

It is a good deal for the Redskins. They get an experienced QB who is knowledgeable of the west coast offense and has worked successfully in it. He probably got about 3 years left in him, so time to dump Campbell and keep a younger one for the "future". Shanahan had success in Denver with a veteran QB, if you recall.

On the other hand, things you must keep in mind are: 1) McNabb's playing weight - -he has been hefty in recent years (in direct correlation to the injuries, I should note); 2) he had a tendency to throw his passes into the ground before the receiver; and 3) he has a very annoying tendency to smile when something bad goes wrong. It doesn't lend itself to effective PR. I hope someone on the Redskins staff will work with him on all of these things, but #3 especially.

The Eagles are getting killed at trading within the division, but I think that's missing the point. They had to do this, and they know they are in rebuilding. This takes the pressure off of them a bit. Give Andy Reid credit for accepting to trade the guy and for moving him to a team with a decent chance for the season. That wasn't going to be the case for Buffalo or Oakland. If Chicago had not invested in their QB, that would have been the best place for McNabb, since he is a Chicago native.

For the Redskins, this probably makes them close to a .500 team. Not sure it makes them a playoff contender, but I do think that McNabb is better quality than any QB they currently have on the roster (and I should note that I am not a big McNabb fan). Still, the underlying issue for the Redksins and has been the o-line. They absolutely need improvement there for any improvement in the W column.

Posted by: dsda3731 | April 5, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

further on Campbell...

although it would be nice to get something for him, an outright release is not out of the question in order to "move on".

and for everyone that points out that Gibbs drafted Campbell, I hardly think that was his choice and he was never really committed to him, which should have said something all along.

Posted by: dsda3731 | April 5, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

So he plays about a season and a half for you maybe then retires. What do you do then?

Posted by: aliben1 | April 5, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

66% in favor? unbelievable, must be eagles fans voting on this site haha. Terrible move by the organization, I'd prefer to develop our own Superbowl QB instead of trying to use a division rival's 33 year old leftovers.

I would be in favor of this if we were a 9-7 team in 2009, but we were far from it. At this point we look desperate to make moves, McNabb was not our only option.

Posted by: SkinsWins | April 5, 2010 10:20 PM | Report abuse

RE-CAP 2009 ,

the redskins lost 4 games last season by a grand total of 7 points. we lost to one team by 1 point. Now you can not tell me Nabby wouldn't have made a difference in those games , you & I both know he would have . Now deal JC to a respectable team and NOT Oakland . JC is decent . Trade Cooley to a team for 2 picks in this draft get your blind side and another running back and we are set ! Maybe a Dt .... but do the dam thang Shanny just do it. I can not wait until parker gets in that " ZONE BUZZ" running game . People this is a good turn around .Shhhhhhhhhhhhhatzs nothing TLR don't know

Posted by: terryreece | April 6, 2010 7:47 AM | Report abuse

This will be great trade for the Redskins if they get serious about addressing the O-line. McNabb always tends to get a little bit like a deer caught in headlights when he faces a strong rush (did you see the Dallas playoff game?) Put him behind a good O-line, give him a good running game, and he will be a great pickup. I don't think he "makes the o-line better", he's not as mobile as he once was. Recall that he has 2 surgically reconstructed knees and is a little thicker in the midsection than he was when he was 25.


Read that paragraph people. Written by an Eagles fan. "Deer caught in headlights" - sound familiar? He never saw a rush coming at him in Philly like he is going to see here. Reconstructed knees? Immobile? This trade is a wash at best. The talent is a marginal upgrade but we paid a 2nd round pick that could have gone a long way toward building for the future.

Posted by: VaBroker | April 6, 2010 9:02 AM | Report abuse

I WOULD KEEP JC AS A BACK UP IF HE IS WILLING TO DO SO BECAUSE HE IS BETTER THAN GROSSMAN! I DON'T TRUST REX GROSSMAN AT ALL!

Posted by: 50midgets | April 6, 2010 9:37 AM | Report abuse

Lisa_R:

Do you really think the Redskins can get a 3rd or better for Campbell? That's laughable. We'd be lucky to get a 6th rounder. This organization does things backwards. They should have traded Campbell BEFORE going after another QB. His draft value would have been higher.

Posted by: Randy_Hawkins | April 5, 2010 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Yeah and the Eagles would've wanted more for McNabb if we had no Campbell moron. Also, if you think we'll be "lucky to get a 6th rounder" for Campbell, you should just stop commenting on football because you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

Posted by: Barno1 | April 6, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

the redskins have been spending money to win a championship since he took over the team, aint happen yet. now we have a new gm & coach saying that to today is anew day whats the cost we never have any draft picks & they already started trading away next years picks, we will never run off 3 bowls in a decade with this regime. this is turn out to be the most expensive championship of all time even passing the ny yakees. can we just win 1. yes albert is a problem who do u blame. and last but not least everything wasnt jason's fault clinton portis is still on the team what have u done 4 ur teamates lately except 4 throw them under the bus but that were u be we should have kept champ.

Posted by: newsboy328 | April 6, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

"I still believe O-line is the most important piece to fix first irregardless of who's under center..."

Posted by: mikpol | April 5, 2010 12:46 PM
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Agree, mikpol...except "irregardless" is not a word. Irrespective, yes, regardless, yes, irregardless = double negative and thus, not a word. This has been your grammar lesson for the day.

For today's geography lesson, why your worst day in your town beats the sh*t outta your best day in Baghdad: http://www.collateralmurder.com/en/index.html

Posted by: hogmeister | April 6, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse

"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results".

Posted by: JJJW1 | April 6, 2010 8:50 PM | Report abuse

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