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Donovan McNabb traded to Redskins

Updated at 9:47 p.m.

In the boldest move since Mike Shanahan took over as head coach, the Redskins acquired quarterback Donovan McNabb Sunday night in a trade with the Eagles.

McNabb, a six-time Pro Bowler, instantly changes the face of the Redskins' offense, simultaneously casting uncertainty on quarterback Jason Campbell's future and the team's plans for this month's draft. His arrival also means Redskins' fans can expect a new starting quarterback at the start of the 2010 season.

In exchange for McNabb, the Redskins gave up their second-round pick in this month's draft -- the draft's 37th overall selection -- and a fourth-round selection in the 2011 draft. Next year's pick, though, could become a third-round selection, depending on McNabb's performance this season.

"Obviously that was a tough decision to make, in trading Donovan," Eagles coach Andy Reid said in a press conference. "He's been such a great player here for 11 years and set every record here you could set and been such a good example on and off the field.
Unfortunately things like this happen in the NFL ... I will always wish Donovan the best of luck except for two times a year."

McNabb was Philadelphia's dependable starter since midway through his rookie season in 1999. He led the Eagles for more than a decade, taking them to the Super Bowl XXXIX, the same season in which he was named the NFC's offensive player of the year in 2004. A mobile quarterback and polarizing figure for many fans, McNabb's future has been in doubt in Philadelphia since the Eagles acquired Michael Vick in 2009 and drafted Kevin Kolb in the second round of the 2007 draft.

Despite votes of confidence from Eagles' Coach Andy Reid and team president Joe Banner, the Eagles began putting out feelers last month that they'd be willing to trade McNabb. At the same time, the Redskins were weighing their options for the 2010 season.

With a new coaching staff in place, the Redskins are expected to implement a new offense this season, so it's not surprising that they sought out a new quarterback. It wasn't immediately certain how this might affect the team's draft plans. Many around the league expected the Redskins to pursue a quarterback in this month's draft.

Shanahan has said he intended to personally scout four to five of the top quarterback prospects. They've already brought in Notre Dame's Jimmy Clausen and Florida's Tim Tebow for in-person visits, and Oklahoma's Sam Bradford and Texas' Colt McCoy were both expected to tour Redskins Park this week. At least one league source said Sunday night that the Redskins could still draft a quarterback and use McNabb as a buffer to allow a young quarterback to learn the team's new system and adjust to the professional level.

As veterans go, there aren't many with a more impressive resume than McNabb. A product of Syracuse University, McNabb was the second overall pick in the 1999 draft. In the years that followed, he was a postseason regular and often a thorn in the Redskins' side, leading the Eagles to four straight division titles (2001-04, five conference championship games (2001-04, '08) and one Super Bowl appearance.

The 33-year-old quarterback already has more than 32,000 career passing yards and 200 touchdowns. He comes to Washington, one of the Eagles' chief NFC East rivals, as Philadelphia's all-time leader in wins, pass attempts, completions, yards, and touchdowns.

Speaking to reporters last month at the NFL's annual owners meetings, Shanahan declined to name Campbell as his starter, saying the Redskins the five-year veteran would have to earn the honor in training camp. He clearly had different plans, though.

Campbell had been the cornerstone of the Redskins offense for the past five years. Drafted in the first round of the 2005 draft under former coach Joe Gibbs, Campbell has started the team's past 32 games and 52 of their past 56. Since taking over the starting job midway through the 2006 season, no quarterback has started more games for the Redskins since Mark Rypien led the huddle from 1989 to '93.

But playing by an embattled offensive line and a rotating cast of coaches, Campbell struggled to make the Washington offense more effective. Last season, Campbell was sacked 43 times, more than all but two other NFL quarterbacks. Statistically, Campbell had posted noticeable improvements since taking over the starting job four seasons ago. He annually improved on his completions, touchdown passes, passing yards and quarterback rating.

But it wasn't enough to impress the new coaching staff. Shanahan's first hire was his son, Kyle, as the team's offensive coordinator, which signalled a renewed commitment to the passing game. Last season, when Kyle Shanahan was the offensive coordinator in Houston, the Texans featured the league's top-ranked passing attack.

Seeking to replicate such results, the Redskins clearly felt a change of quarterback was in order. With McNabb in place, the team still has three other quarterbacks under contract: Rex Grossman, Colt Brennan and Richard Bartel. Campbell is not under contract until he signs his tender.

Talk about the trade: Columnist Tracee Hamilton will be online tomorrow at 9:30 a.m. and NFL editor Cindy Boren will chat at 11 a.m.

By Rick Maese  |  April 4, 2010; 8:30 PM ET
Categories:  Donovan McNabb  | Tags: Donovan McNabb, quarterback  
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Comments

Welcome Donovan! HTTR!

Posted by: SoCal_SkinsFan | April 4, 2010 8:41 PM | Report abuse

I hope they trade JC for a second then, Not sure what is the thought process but I said I would trust in Shanny.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 4, 2010 8:42 PM | Report abuse

Glad not everyone at WaPo isn't eating Easter eggs. Way to be third on the story (behind ESPN and ProfootballTalk), guys

Posted by: mohammed10 | April 4, 2010 8:42 PM | Report abuse

bye bye Jason

Posted by: chasla | April 4, 2010 8:42 PM | Report abuse

Holy Cow... Campbell Traded on Draft Day... We need offensive linemen and we need them now... McNabb is an injury waiting to happen and he's not as spry as he used to be... This is a bit crazy... It just might work... but it's totally "shoot the moon"

Posted by: sharrona81 | April 4, 2010 8:42 PM | Report abuse

Nooooooooo! He's terrible. And I just paid my invoice for next year. Anyone want to buy my tickets?

Posted by: kevin2504 | April 4, 2010 8:43 PM | Report abuse

WOW! Completely wrong on this. Speechless!

Posted by: Curzon417 | April 4, 2010 8:43 PM | Report abuse

So we're trying to win the Super Bowl this year? Obviously we are not building for the future. I do like Mcnabb. JC must feel so bad right now. This is kinda sad. This team never wanted him.

So we have JC, McNabb, Rex.. so bye bye Colt? No actually bye bye JC. JC's not gonna want to stay right? But he and Mcnabb are good friends.

Posted by: rachel216 | April 4, 2010 8:43 PM | Report abuse

Theres no way they keep JC, but if they were going to trade him they should have done it before making this trade.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 4, 2010 8:44 PM | Report abuse

Unbelievable!!!! Oh no.....the leverage to trade Campbell is now gone. Hopefully, they can get a 2nd or 3rd rounder for Campbell. Clearly, this means that we take Okung with the 4th pick. Wild!!

Posted by: tramellcanady | April 4, 2010 8:44 PM | Report abuse

Don't like this at all!

Posted by: outsider6 | April 4, 2010 8:44 PM | Report abuse

I always told myself i wouldnt ever swear off this team like all those fake fans did last year, but this moment in my life will be the closest i ever get. Thank god for a handy bottle of crown royal (proud sponsor of the redskins), or i would be bound by some covenant to never attend another game

Posted by: DaFunBunch | April 4, 2010 8:44 PM | Report abuse

YEEEEESSSSSSSSSS! A legit QB.

Posted by: coparker5 | April 4, 2010 8:44 PM | Report abuse

FRONT OFFICE FAIL

Posted by: Crunkenstein | April 4, 2010 8:44 PM | Report abuse

ugh

Posted by: Eze167 | April 4, 2010 8:45 PM | Report abuse

Finally a quarterback who can score more than 14 points.

Posted by: christophermdavis | April 4, 2010 8:45 PM | Report abuse

So much for trying to build through the draft, I hope this isn't another Redskins' fleecing

Posted by: sdunn1 | April 4, 2010 8:45 PM | Report abuse

But thank god, now we're not getting a QB! No Clausen or Bradford or Tebow or McCoy!! Now go get Russell Okung... I don't want Mcnabb to get killed...

Posted by: rachel216 | April 4, 2010 8:45 PM | Report abuse

Good stop-gap measure while we nurture a rising QB for 2012/13 and beyond.....class act, hard worker, helluva leader and knows how to win. All and all, not bad guys, glad Vinnie wasn't here to muck it up!

Posted by: wma98 | April 4, 2010 8:45 PM | Report abuse

Getting a veteran QB does not mean your not building, it just means you know JC doesn't fit in your plans.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 4, 2010 8:46 PM | Report abuse

3 running backs that are 30 years old....
trading away your second round pick for a guy who throws up in the huddle in the Super Bowl.....

I'm speechless.......

OVER THE HILL GANG Pt. 2!!! Like father, like son....

oy...

Posted by: natman19 | April 4, 2010 8:46 PM | Report abuse

This makes no sense! I can't watch this anymore. Philadelphia didn't want him anymore for a reason.

Posted by: wdv1137 | April 4, 2010 8:46 PM | Report abuse

I gotta say, I like it !!! NcNabb sure has killed us over the years and I think he not only has 2 or 3 good years left, but his quick feet, quick release and strong arm fit Shanahan's offense better then anyone else we have. I can't believe Philly traded within the division like that ??? A decision that could come back to haunt them. McNabb will be appreciated a great deal more in Washington then he ever was in Philly.

Might also be trade bait ...

Posted by: EFitz1000aolcom | April 4, 2010 8:46 PM | Report abuse

Good job getting scooped by like 30 minutes.

Posted by: TheSuperhoo | April 4, 2010 8:46 PM | Report abuse

I gotta say, I like it !!! NcNabb sure has killed us over the years and I think he not only has 2 or 3 good years left, but his quick feet, quick release and strong arm fit Shanahan's offense better then anyone else we have. I can't believe Philly traded within the division like that ??? A decision that could come back to haunt them. McNabb will be appreciated a great deal more in Washington then he ever was in Philly.

Might also be trade bait ...

Posted by: EFitz1000aolcom | April 4, 2010 8:47 PM | Report abuse

My head is still spinning... One thing I know is that Thomas, Kelly, Moss, Cooley, and Davis have to be excited to finally have a guy with a rocket arm and a good long ball... I see either Cooley or Davis packaged with Campbell for some picks on Draft Day.

Posted by: sharrona81 | April 4, 2010 8:47 PM | Report abuse

mad cow

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 4, 2010 8:47 PM | Report abuse

excellent move for what they gave up...NOW we draft o line...we also have iggles playbook...iggle fans...you wanted rid of him...you got it! YES!!!!

Posted by: leevi98 | April 4, 2010 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Proving once again that nothing has changed, new management or not.

Posted by: reiflame1 | April 4, 2010 8:48 PM | Report abuse

Hot Tub Time Machine...2005

Posted by: stevorama1 | April 4, 2010 8:48 PM | Report abuse

calm down people!!! He's coming in to compete just like Willy Parker and Larry Johnson....If McNabb wants to start he needs to beat out the other two QB's in camp..Shanny is building a real team...you need to push guys..I bet C.P is concerned this year...Who could possibly disagree with ME????

Posted by: MajorFacemask | April 4, 2010 8:48 PM | Report abuse

What happens now to all those QB's scheduled to visit Redskins Park and have "private workouts?" Bradford, Clausen, McCoy? Can't imagine this makes them very enthusiastic about their prospects.

Posted by: League-Source | April 4, 2010 8:49 PM | Report abuse

This is perfect they have a legit NFL MVP calbier QB for the next 3 or 4 years who is coming off two of the best seasons of his very very good career (not great). Now we can draft Okung at 4, draft a young QB in a later round that Shanny can groom for 3 or 4 years down the road. O happy day O happy day.

Posted by: wstclair | April 4, 2010 8:49 PM | Report abuse

Officially no longer a Redskins fan. Just when you thought they couldn't make a worse trade.

Posted by: Dahlhouse | April 4, 2010 8:49 PM | Report abuse

OVER THE HILL GANG Pt. 2!!! Like father, like son....

oy...

Posted by: natman19 | April 4, 2010 8:46 PM |

Not true since son is not calling the shots.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 4, 2010 8:49 PM | Report abuse

WOW! Anyone remember the last QB the Skins got from Philly? Does Sonny ring any bells? This can't be all bad.

Posted by: OLDTIMESkinsFAN | April 4, 2010 8:49 PM | Report abuse

Love it, can't wait to watch McNabb stick it to Philly.

We gotta move JC obviously, Buffalo or Oakland could use him

Posted by: DMoney28 | April 4, 2010 8:49 PM | Report abuse

DUMB. Overpay for a 33 year old guy that is in the last year of his contract. He's going to get paid and the 37th pick is way too high.

If the Eagles thought he could still play at a high level they never would have traded him to an interdivision opponent.

The Eagles roster is already better at about every position and now we gave them another pick to widen the gap.

Posted by: Diesel44 | April 4, 2010 8:50 PM | Report abuse

This is a great deal.... The guy is really a pretty damn good quarterback and we can draft one for the future.... Now we must build up that line

Posted by: Publius11 | April 4, 2010 8:50 PM | Report abuse

this probably means FO thinks draft will go

Bradford, Okung, Suh

and at #4 the Redskins pick Berry from TENN

Posted by: noonefromtampa | April 4, 2010 8:50 PM | Report abuse

TDS
22
INT
10
YDS
3,553
RTG
92.9


Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 4, 2010 8:50 PM | Report abuse

they're going sideways. but mcnabb won't make it through the whole season anyway. it looks like they'll draft their tackle but they need two and some other offensive linemen. they should have just taken two offensive linemen. i know...what do i know? but it's not like the redskins front office make you think they know more than you do.

Posted by: trufe | April 4, 2010 8:50 PM | Report abuse

F Everybody Up HEre!!

Can't nobody ever tell me nothing again up this MoFo!!!!

Booked since day one Bamas!!!

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 4, 2010 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Really? REALLY?

Posted by: stoddardc | April 4, 2010 8:50 PM | Report abuse

I wouldn't be surprised if they have a deal lined up for Gaither as well.

Posted by: TWISI | April 4, 2010 8:51 PM | Report abuse

This is a great deal.... The guy is really a pretty damn good quarterback and we can draft one for the future.... Now we must build up that line

Posted by: Publius11 | April 4, 2010 8:51 PM | Report abuse

This is freaking stupid. Nice job, guys. You just acquired an inaccurate, highly-paid, in the last year of his contract, injury-prone QB. This makes no sense. McNabb is not that much of/or at all of an upgrade over JC. I'm so disappointed that this team consistently makes stupid moves.

Should have shored up the oline and trade the pick for Jared Gaither. He's 23, talented, and in a position of need.

Is Vinny/Danny-boy still calling the shots? Sounds like it to me. Nice job a-holes.

Posted by: XCountryTrevor | April 4, 2010 8:51 PM | Report abuse

but for once we don't have the "weakest" QB in our division.

Posted by: rachel216 | April 4, 2010 8:51 PM | Report abuse

Officially no longer a Redskins fan. Just when you thought they couldn't make a worse trade.

Posted by: Dahlhouse | April 4, 2010 8:49 PM |

Thats good because you were never a fan in the first place.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 4, 2010 8:51 PM | Report abuse

good move...now trade campbell for more picks!

Posted by: duncanrobee | April 4, 2010 8:51 PM | Report abuse

This SUCKS !!!! EASTER SHOCKER !!! Makes no sense to me on soooo many levels !!!! As Mark
Trail would say, "what th'!!!!!!"

BOOOOOO Front office !!!!!! So Snyder-esque !!!! God this sux!!!!!

Posted by: LMichael1 | April 4, 2010 8:51 PM | Report abuse

must suck to get scooped.

Posted by: Samuraise | April 4, 2010 8:51 PM | Report abuse

Say what you will about management, they are absolutely fearless. Fearless! I'm sick of people bashing Snyder. Most of his moves are stupid, but he is ready to crash the plane into the mountain if it gives us a faint chance of winning. Wild west with this guy in DC.

Posted by: vincentc | April 4, 2010 8:52 PM | Report abuse

McNabb is not coming to compete... He's not going to be a backup... He's going to start. Campbell is done in D.C. Perhaps JC steps back and says "groom me properly" but I doubt it. JC is going to be traded for whatever they can get for him which will not be much now.

Posted by: sharrona81 | April 4, 2010 8:52 PM | Report abuse

So are the Redskins trying to revive the George Allen years? The Redskins are the 21st century version of the over the hill gang...

Thanks Bruce and Shanny!!! Danny you cant buy a superbowl with over the hill washed up veterans. Not to mention the annual wasting of draft picks. How can you rebuild this team with no draft picks?

I am disgusted... Mcnabb wont make it to week 3...

I thought we would no longer be the off season champs but again we are!

Posted by: twarren1 | April 4, 2010 8:52 PM | Report abuse

This is really shocking. Let's think about the implications:

-The 'skins haven't had a qb of this stature since Theismann
-Forget about rebuilding, the Redskins clearly intend to win next year.
-Bye, bye JC17
-Still drafting a qb this year or next year, as we surely can't count on McNabb for more than 2-3 years.

Posted by: ryanem1 | April 4, 2010 8:52 PM | Report abuse

I love this deal. Campbell is going to stay IMO. Rex Grossman becomes the #3 QB. Colt had no place in DC, and probably has no place in the NFL at all.

The Redskins will go with Okung in the 1st round, which is what I've wanted them to do all along. Bradford and Clausen are just too big of a risk. I don't much like either of them.

The Skins can then stockpile OL in the later rounds. With legitimate NFL football guys in Bruce Allen and Shannahan they'll draft guys a lot better than Chad Reinhardt in the later rounds. This is a deep OL draft.

If this blows up in our faces at least we'll have Okung already in place. Then they can get Jake Locker next year early in the first round if they have a high pick.

Posted by: CJMARTIN04 | April 4, 2010 8:53 PM | Report abuse

all the ESPN people like it

Posted by: rachel216 | April 4, 2010 8:53 PM | Report abuse

I absolutely hate Donovan McNubb. Unless this is a late April Fool's joke I'm only worrying about the Indianapolis Colts - my favorite AFC team. As far as I'm concerned the Redskins are dead meat. I don't care how many games he's won, he's not a leader. I'm just sick.

Posted by: laserwizard | April 4, 2010 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Same Ole Same Ole.....what a collosal mess, AGAIN. What are they thinking? Campbell gone, they take Bradford or Clausen and all those running backs? But still need a line to protect McNabb et al. Dan Snyder still has his fingers in the porrige.

Posted by: Factfinder57 | April 4, 2010 8:53 PM | Report abuse

TDS
20
INT
15
YDS
3,618
RTG
86.4

Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 4, 2010 8:53 PM | Report abuse

This is just one of a number of moves that will happen prior to our first draft pick. Bradford wasn't going to be there at 4 anyway, and the other QBs are not as highly rated.

We will probably move JC for a pick. We currently have a 1, 4, 5, and 7 this year. Could use a 2/3.

Donovan brings good experience and will increase our TD efficiency in the red zone.

Posted by: gatorz | April 4, 2010 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Gotta extend McNabb ASAP. Can't be a 1 year rental. Need to get a Front Heavy deal with this uncapped year.
Question: Rather have McNabb for the 2nd AND 3rd or 4th next year
OR
Gaither for a 2nd?

Posted by: furious50 | April 4, 2010 8:54 PM | Report abuse

This is just the same old horse$$$t. trading away a high draft pick for a big name at the end of his career.
Great move Danny!

Posted by: bajadas | April 4, 2010 8:54 PM | Report abuse

I can't wait to back into a wild card game this year then fall into mediocrity for another half a decade. Go front office go!!!...ugh

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | April 4, 2010 8:54 PM | Report abuse

Anybody still convinced the REDSKINS want either CLAUSEN or TEBOW. O.K. clear the decks for action. SOUP's on the block. How many others? JC might get a third. So how do we get OKUNG?

Posted by: glawrence007 | April 4, 2010 8:55 PM | Report abuse

scratching my head but McNabb is high quality.. now will they work on the O line??

Posted by: bozhogg | April 4, 2010 8:55 PM | Report abuse

Welcome McNabb....I am wondering if this was the first of a couple trade domino's to fall. Other Rumors I heard were Brandon Marshall and the #11 pick from Denver for our #4 overall pick. Than swapping first rd picks with Baltimore and acquiring Jared Gaither. Also JC to the Bills for Donte Whitner and third rd pick.

QB issue addressed/ Offensive Tackle issue addressed and allows us to take best overall player on the board with back end first rd pick

Posted by: rhalls1 | April 4, 2010 8:55 PM | Report abuse

CJMARTIN04: You really think JC stays? He says he's a starter in this league (and I believe he is as well.) I wanted to give him this year to see what he can do with a "slightly better o line" but now he won't get that chance. Wasn't ready to give up on JC yet. ;( I don't see JC staying.

Posted by: rachel216 | April 4, 2010 8:56 PM | Report abuse

Skins need to draft Okung and reload on as much talented youth as possible. I don't understand this trade...McNabb needs time to throw and this current line cannot provide this.

So now the skins have 3 RB's and a QB who have been playing since the era of leather helmets!

Posted by: LuckyLuciano | April 4, 2010 8:56 PM | Report abuse

not thrilled

Posted by: cancunlizzard | April 4, 2010 8:56 PM | Report abuse

NOw......HOw crazy would it be if we get Spiller @ #4??? Or McClain....

Eat it!!!!!!

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 4, 2010 8:56 PM | Report abuse

Just thought of something. Isn't Donovan a free agent after this year. Do we re-up him.

Btw, for the 2011 draft, I like Locker and Mallet.

Posted by: gatorz | April 4, 2010 8:56 PM | Report abuse

Congrats, 4th.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 4, 2010 8:56 PM | Report abuse

Watch now the Campbell haters are going to be McNabb haters. Hope SKins trade Campbell best for them and Campbell. 49ers looking like a good fit even Miami

Posted by: cjdwolfpack | April 4, 2010 8:56 PM | Report abuse

I was excited about the Redskins going younger and building a team that would win for many years but now....

Old running backs, old QB, and same old song. Feel sorry for JC and think he could have been a really good QB for the Skins.

No excited about the McNabb trade!!!

Posted by: mdgauth99 | April 4, 2010 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan and Allen are calling the shots????? HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!! I'm sure $nyder is getting the printing presses out right now and is furiously printing up the No. 5 jerseys for all the suckers to buy. So much for building the O-line. McNabb is going to spend all of his time running for his life, and he can use most of that $11 million he's owed to plan his own funeral.

If Jesus Christ announced that for his second coming he would quarterback the Washington Redskins, they would have to call an end to Christianity. Because the beating that Jesus would take would be so severe that there's no way he would be able to rise from the dead.

I'm sorry, but this is an idiotic signing that is meant to do one thing and one thing only - sell jerseys.

Forget about Shanahan and Allen. That A-hole Putz $nyder is still calling the shots here and anyone who thinks otherwise is either deluded or on drugs.

Posted by: VeloStrummer | April 4, 2010 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Campbell's never going to be able to prove the doubters wrong here in Washington now that McNabb's here. I think that's what pisses me off most about this trade.

Posted by: Barno1 | April 4, 2010 8:58 PM | Report abuse

Hmmmmmmmmmm. Don't know what to think.

Go Skins!

Posted by: DCSPORTSFANATIC | April 4, 2010 8:58 PM | Report abuse

Another idiotic move. Who new Vinny was back. Can't wait to see what other has-been they bring in next.

Posted by: 4merskinsfan | April 4, 2010 8:58 PM | Report abuse

With one of the deepest talent pools in years the Redskins give up the 35th overall pick for a QB that is injury prone and on the downside of his career. Genius give up what is basically a late first round pick with this talent pool for an aging QB that will be gone long before the ever sniff the playoffs. Then again with the lack of talent they won't sniff the playoffs before I am long gone as well.

Posted by: Hornet77 | April 4, 2010 8:58 PM | Report abuse

F Everybody Up HEre!!

Can't nobody ever tell me nothing again up this MoFo!!!!

Booked since day one Bamas!!!

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 4, 2010 8:50 PM

I can tell you you're a phukin retard, that's what I can tell you. When you throw every piece of sh!t in the world against the wall somethings bound to stick you d-bag. Only Bama around here is you.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 4, 2010 8:58 PM | Report abuse

STUPID! STUPID! STUPID! STUPID! STUPID!

First we sign two geriactric over the hill backs now we get an old, washed up quarterback for draft picks?

STUPID! STUPID! STUPID! STUPID! STUPID!

I am done wasting my valuable Sunday's watching the Redskins go down the tube! Snider has once again sacrificed rebuilding with young players for maybe one decent season!

Posted by: sbf845 | April 4, 2010 8:58 PM | Report abuse

Anyone watching ESPNews? Geez "the biggest move so far in the offseason" ... to the Redskins.

this is familiar...

Posted by: rachel216 | April 4, 2010 8:58 PM | Report abuse

For a hands off off-season, we sure are making some big name acquisitions!

I thought we'd sworn that off, but it looks like deja vu all over again. I appreciate the charm offensive early and everything--but doesn't it seem like Danny "Big Name" Snyder is making the calls again?

What if it turns out that Vinny was actually the voice of restraint?!

Oh no!

Posted by: Shultz86 | April 4, 2010 8:58 PM | Report abuse

well i think we should probably draft a pass catching TE at this point...thoughts???

Posted by: carsonspence | April 4, 2010 8:58 PM | Report abuse

And on Easter Sunday, the Redskins Offense rose from the grave...
Sure, there was a "doubting Thomas" here and there, but soon, everyone in the NFL realized what had happened: Mike Shannahan and son added a legit stud QB to run their high powered offense and returned the team to glory.

Hallelujah!

Quite possibly the most times the word's 'holy sh!t' have been uttered aloud on Easter Sunday since about 2,010 years ago.

Posted by: jgarrisn | April 4, 2010 8:59 PM | Report abuse

How does anyone think this was not a good move? What do we have to show for the last 11 years? Now we work on the line and next season will be looking good. This just made me a little more optimistic.

Posted by: AnthonyMix | April 4, 2010 8:59 PM | Report abuse

Forget about Shanahan and Allen. That A-hole Putz $nyder is still calling the shots here and anyone who thinks otherwise is either deluded or on drugs.

Posted by: VeloStrummer | April 4, 2010 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Ugh...is this what passes for commentary now on this blog? I'm glad I don't read this very often anymore. The above comment is just plain retarded.

Posted by: Barno1 | April 4, 2010 9:00 PM | Report abuse

I knew Dan Snyder would have to go out and sign another big name in the twilight of his career....just like Dan did with Deon Sanders, Jeff George, et al. Except this time he is paying big time with draft choices!

So much for patience and planning for the future. Redskins will own the NFC East Cellar once again in Twenty-Ten!

Posted by: JCM-51 | April 4, 2010 9:00 PM | Report abuse

Frankly I'm excited. Welcome to DC Donovan, take out your hatred of Philly twice a year for us.

We always talk about how badly the Skins treat Jason, look at what Philly has done with McNabb.

5 NFC Championships, multiple pro bowls.......When is the last time a QB on our roster had those credentials?

Posted by: iH8dallas | April 4, 2010 9:00 PM | Report abuse

this probably means FO thinks draft will go

Bradford, Okung, Suh

and at #4 the Redskins pick Berry from TENN

Posted by: noonefromtampa | April 4, 2010 8:50 PM | Report abuse

My man. Best player at a position of need. Can't get the consensus best QB, OT, or DT, so go get the best pass defender over the best ILB.

Posted by: glawrence007 | April 4, 2010 9:00 PM | Report abuse

VERY happy to hear it.
Donovan...please lose 20 lbs., get in shape, and help us beat the frickin Eagles, the Cowgirls, the NY things, TWICE each.

Posted by: scmonty1 | April 4, 2010 9:01 PM | Report abuse

I am simply STUNNED. BMitch said this has been in the works for some time.

BMitch said he called McNabb upon hearing the news and that McNabb is excited.

CSN asked BMitch if he asked McNabb if he would be the starter - BMitch said they did not talk about that but that of course McNabb will be the starter.

This means Campbell will be traded :( I'm sooo over this idiotic franchise. I've always liked McNabb but he is getting old....gets hurt a lot.....and obviously must be on the down slope or the Eagles would never have traded him to a division rival - a division rival!!!!

BMitch said McNabb told him the Eagles were jerking him around but isn't that the same thing the Skins have done repeatedly to Jason Campbell?

So now we only have 4 picks and a QB we did not need.

Posted by: Lisa_R | April 4, 2010 9:01 PM | Report abuse

Santana Moss just became relevant again. Cooley, we'll find out just how good you are.

Posted by: coparker5 | April 4, 2010 9:01 PM | Report abuse

The tea leaves sure suggest Campbell will be traded.

McNabb
Grossman
Brennan

Possibly?

Posted by: robostop10 | April 4, 2010 9:01 PM | Report abuse

Jason Campbell to the Raiders.

Posted by: christophermdavis | April 4, 2010 9:01 PM | Report abuse

what a joke. this is pathetic. we all know this is going to end horribly.

Posted by: Salinas1 | April 4, 2010 9:01 PM | Report abuse

When was the last time the Skins traded for the Phily QB? Sonny J. for Norm Sneed (we win Phily loses). That worked out well. We should a great pick at #4. I hope it is Okung. Bradford should skip the Tuesday visit. We will be set at QB for three more years. I wanted a shot at Locker, but that is not going to happen. Stock the OLine now and next year. We must have some young, strong, durable hogs to move forward. If nothing this will be interesting.

Posted by: changer2 | April 4, 2010 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Another idiotic move. Who new Vinny was back. Can't wait to see what other has-been they bring in next.

Posted by: 4merskinsfan

We would've known Vinny was back if we drafted Clausen..

Well, Barno, we'll see when JC goes to another team how he'll do.

Posted by: rachel216 | April 4, 2010 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Hate this trade. Doesn't matter who's QB with that O-line. Where's the depth? Where's the building for a future?

Shanahan's toying with team for 2 years hoping to catch lightning in a bottle, takes the cash and rides off into sunset like all other coaches.

I find it increasingly difficult to cheer for this team. Snyder's got to go.

Posted by: hailrskins | April 4, 2010 9:02 PM | Report abuse

How can ANYONE feel bad for JC?????? He has had 5 years to show something...Sorry bye bye....

this is great...we now just draft o line and then a qb in a few years!!!! HAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: leevi98 | April 4, 2010 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Getting a veteran QB does not mean your not building, it just means you know JC doesn't fit in your plans.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 4, 2010 8:46 PM

I think I disagree this ia an all in move to go deep into the playoffs this year. Yes the team may rely on the draft more heavily in the future, but they can't do a whole lot in this draft as it currently stands and they already have given up a pick in next's year draft. Anything is possible because they must get more picks in this draft.

Posted by: TWISI | April 4, 2010 9:02 PM | Report abuse

There had better be a solid JC trade forthcoming, or this move is retarded.

Posted by: divi3 | April 4, 2010 9:03 PM | Report abuse

I am pinching myself, this is so much like a flashback to my childhood.
I was 8 years old, the new Redskin Coach George Allen was making trade after trade, bringing in older players, and barking out "The Future is Now"

With all of the FO signings of Older FA's Bruce is no doubt reliving his childhood.
Is he aware of this?

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | April 4, 2010 9:03 PM | Report abuse

The grsss at FedEx field better get ready to get hit with a lot of balls...

Posted by: nojunk4me | April 4, 2010 9:03 PM | Report abuse

WOW! Completely wrong on this. Speechless!

Posted by: Curzon417

Me too. On both points.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 4, 2010 9:04 PM | Report abuse

I dont understand some of yall. First you were crying because we didnt have a qb that won anything, now we have a guy who is a future hall of famer who may give the skins another 2 or 3 years and people are still complaining. It probably would have been smarter to trade JC first but you like to think that this means that qb wont be on the menu at pick # 4

Posted by: KingJoffeJoffer | April 4, 2010 9:04 PM | Report abuse

Why lord? One of my mosty hated players to the skins... ugh

Posted by: nate_snyder | April 4, 2010 9:04 PM | Report abuse

yeah maybe oakland will trade us like 4 second rounders for him...

Posted by: carsonspence | April 4, 2010 9:04 PM | Report abuse

Jason Campbell to the Raiders.

Posted by: christophermdavis | April 4, 2010 9:01 PM |

Or the Rams

Posted by: TWISI | April 4, 2010 9:04 PM | Report abuse

I have already filled my puke bucket. Twice. He's a Eagle, an f'ing Eagle.

If this is true, Dan Snyder truly does not understand his fan base. Yack.

Posted by: clandestinetomcat | April 4, 2010 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Congrats, 4th.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 4, 2010 8:56 PM

Thank you. You won't be in my crosshairs tommorrow.....

But plenty will....

RedDMV thought I was putting a little too much on that Orakpo over Cushing deal.......Y'all gonna be wanting to ITA my a$$ now.....

This ONLY made sense on a million different levels....seriously.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 4, 2010 9:05 PM | Report abuse

DUMBEST MOVE SINCE DRAFTING Heath Schuler!!!

To Quote The WHO - "New Boss same as the Old Boss"

Posted by: Stevida | April 4, 2010 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Donovan McNabb and Joe Gibbs have the same birthday! 11/25

Posted by: MonkMossMann | April 4, 2010 9:05 PM | Report abuse

just when you think all the flash in the pan signings were history...i still trust Shanny

Posted by: pathmo | April 4, 2010 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Man i see people on here saying Mcnabb sucks and this was a bad trade???? Your on crack!

And if you feel you need to give up tickets and not be a skins fan any longer...shame on you and we dont want ya BYE!

Posted by: leevi98 | April 4, 2010 9:06 PM | Report abuse

The guy is really a pretty damn good quarterback and we can draft one for the future.... Now we must build up that line

Posted by: Publius11 | April 4, 2010 8:50 PM


With what picks?? We just gave up our 2nd rounder for McNabb!

It's a bad move but it's not awful. I like JC but McNabb is a clear upgrade. What makes this a bad move is not that it's McNabb, it's that we give up 2 picks for a 33 year-old at a time when we should be rebuilding.

I guess the more things change, the more they stay the same...SMH...

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 4, 2010 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Holy shti! I just saw this on the ESPN crawl. Either Reid has lost his mind or he knows something. Trading McNabb IN the division to SHANAHAN? Either he thinks the skins are so bad it won't matter or that McNabb is done. This could come back to bury him big time.

Get the guy some O-line stat!!!!!!

Posted by: skinswest | April 4, 2010 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Go F*ck yourself McNabb. I hope you break something the first game and retire.

Posted by: wdv1137 | April 4, 2010 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Maybe JC can learn behind Mcnabb and improve... but I'm sure he's demanding a trade ;(

Posted by: rachel216 | April 4, 2010 9:06 PM | Report abuse

LOVE IT!

Gives us a chance to compete this year for the cost of only a second round pick. We draft Oline at #4 and pick up a young QB in later rounds this year or next year to groom behind McNabb.

Donovan is a gamer and will drastically improve our offense. The added benefit of taking him from a division rival cannot be overlooked.

Two thumbs up. I love the new organization.

Posted by: ahwolf | April 4, 2010 9:07 PM | Report abuse

This is good for both McNabb and Campbell.

I wish them success.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 4, 2010 9:07 PM | Report abuse

CJMARTIN04: You really think JC stays? He says he's a starter in this league (and I believe he is as well.) I wanted to give him this year to see what he can do with a "slightly better o line" but now he won't get that chance. Wasn't ready to give up on JC yet. ;( I don't see JC staying.
-------------------------------------------

McNabb and JC are friends. That might somehow work in the Redskins favor to get him to stay and be a backup QB.

The main reason I think JC stays is that I don't see anybody in the NFL (except perhaps for the Raiders) being stupid enough to offer the Redskins a decent pick for Campbell and the two sides will be stuck with each other regardless if JC wants to stay or not.

Okung is a much better pick than either Bradford or Clausen. The Skins can go get a OG in the 4th round and some defensive depth in round 5.

I wouldn't be opposed to seeing either Davis or Cooley packaged with JC to get something that includes a 2nd round pick. I just don't think anybody in the NFL's going to want JC much and he's stuck here regardless what he wants.

Posted by: CJMARTIN04 | April 4, 2010 9:07 PM | Report abuse

Stunned. I am stunned.

A team with no offensive line, that needs picks, that needs players, trades for a solid QB on the downside of his career.

Crazy.

Posted by: SteveMG | April 4, 2010 9:07 PM | Report abuse

best trade in many many years. great trade. A TURE ALL PRO QB.I just love this trade. washington skins really have a chance to and a real chance to go far.

Posted by: lostdogrwd101 | April 4, 2010 9:07 PM | Report abuse

I'll say this, he's better than Campbell, he knows WCO, and he knows the division. At least now we shouldn't have to worry about a wasted QB pick at #4. Pretty sure it has to be o line now right? JC for a 3rd? Not giddy about it but I don't outright hate it either.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 4, 2010 9:07 PM | Report abuse

This is excellent....IF they take Okung.

Posted by: kreator6996 | April 4, 2010 9:07 PM | Report abuse

Writing down all the names ...why??? cause when we start winning ....i am gonna call ya out! and demand you leave our nation and our blog!

Posted by: leevi98 | April 4, 2010 9:08 PM | Report abuse

Have they been eating too many eggs on Easter?. What are they doing? This doesn't make too much sense. A #37 pick and others wasted,specially when they need lots of offensive line players. I guess I am drunk, but can't understand this one.

Posted by: mam2845 | April 4, 2010 9:08 PM | Report abuse

Well. Now we know that nothing has changed at Redskins Park. Dan Snyder is still in charge of personnel moves, and all Dan cares about is getting headlines.

Washington gives up 3 potential starters -- to a division rival -- and gets an old, washed up QB who will be out of the league long before the 'Skins ever return to mediocrity, let alone greatness.

Meanwhile, those three draft picks could have been used to add quality depth to a team sorely lacking in quality or depth. Worse still, they have given extra quality depth to a division rival who will continue to dominate Washington for the foreseeable future.

If Donovan isn't on the IR by week 8 playing behind one of the worst offensive lines in the NFL, running around on two old knees, I will be amazed.

DAN SNYDER SELL THE TEAM!


Kevin Olson
Manassas, VA

Posted by: noslok | April 4, 2010 9:08 PM | Report abuse

I don't like this trade (RIGHT NOW). Say what you will about JC, we still need some type of offensive line. Now, If we trade down out of 4 to pick up more pics, then I'm all for this trade. I just don't like it cuz I only see McNabb having 3 MAYBE 4 years left. Also, the writing is clearly on the walls... Portis AND JC will be traded. No need to bring in another RB if you've got LJ and portis. The Parker moves signifies the end of Portis. I anticipate 4 more trades by the skins at or around the draft.

Posted by: alwaysactingafool | April 4, 2010 9:08 PM | Report abuse

Biggest fool: Jason Reid:

"Mike Shanahan wants to draft a QB and 'raise' him."

Posted by: League-Source | April 4, 2010 9:08 PM | Report abuse

McNabb will finally get a chance to run a team that actually supports him with the run. I know people might not realize it but that will be a huge help to him.

Posted by: Mike4169 | April 4, 2010 9:08 PM | Report abuse

Campbell doesn't have to be traded....He can be the solid #2........

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 4, 2010 9:08 PM | Report abuse

good move...lifelong Redskins fan here. now what we can do is get concentrate on the OL-
get a good left tackle and move on. simple as that. love you JC, but get out of Dodge and move on. you could be a Pro Bowl player elsewhere

Posted by: mherdt1 | April 4, 2010 9:08 PM | Report abuse

Gaither or Adams should be the next move.

Posted by: TWISI | April 4, 2010 9:08 PM | Report abuse

McNabb should spent the Spring and Summer, learning how to throw the Ball while laying on his Back.

If he can pull that off, he might make it until Thanksgiving playing for the Redskins. Maybe the Skins can pick up T.O....

Posted by: austininc4 | April 4, 2010 9:09 PM | Report abuse

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! I am freaking desapointed! Why give 2nd rounder for this bumb!!! First of all, I hate to see "MR INCOMPLETE PASSES" with my beloved redskins, he is washed up!

Skins fan; remember all those games the past 4 years where we have dominated the eagles and our beast defense, shut his washed up behind?????

SECOND why the hell give up a 2ND ROUNDER.... he is only worth a 4TH ROUNDER if anything!!! that is it!

Shannahan and Allen better hope it works out, because this is the saddest I've felt in a while. we have no other choice than to support this BUM!

Posted by: slvtruco21 | April 4, 2010 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Rachel,

JC doesn't have to "demand" a trade.

He's Audi5000

Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 4, 2010 9:09 PM | Report abuse

The Easter bunny really left us Skins fans a shocker. I am in total shock!!! HAIL!!!!!

Posted by: ladyredskins | April 4, 2010 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Wow..This sucks as bad as when Vinny was here. I thought we were done trading draft picks for over the hill players.

Mcnabb hasn't started an entire season since 2006 right? What makes you think he will start in 2010??

Posted by: jimboy435 | April 4, 2010 9:10 PM | Report abuse

People, this is a GOOD thing. You think JC is better than McNabb? Plus, he chose DC so he could go up against the NFC East 6 times. That is at least 6 extremely motivated games. 6 wins is more than last year.

You all are unbelievable.

Posted by: CTCapsPhan | April 4, 2010 9:10 PM | Report abuse

JC never had a chance - you could say he got "Zorned" my Shanny & Co. I hope they release him and let him try to salvage a career somewhere else. As for Mcnabb, cannot say I am thrilled with him, but at least this move ensures us we draft OL with our first pick.

Posted by: scoot21 | April 4, 2010 9:11 PM | Report abuse

McNabb is a good, sometimes very good, quarterback, to be sure. But his best days are behind him and this team has so many holes that a nice QB is about #43 on the list of things to fix.

By the time they fix the other problems, McNabb will be 67 years old.

If they had addressed the other problems and THEN trade for McNabb, I would love it.

But wow.

Posted by: SteveMG | April 4, 2010 9:11 PM | Report abuse

Looks like we have our quarterbacks Left tackle o-line here we come. I said it before the Allen family like veterns and now we need O-linemen. The hell with long term building the future is now and the skins enter the hunt. Shanny might get his rings sooner than we think. Campbell, McNabb and Grossman not bad. Portis, Parker and Johnson run game just need a line. Boy is this shaping up to be real ingteresting. Hail Redskins

Posted by: MPWTIAN | April 4, 2010 9:11 PM | Report abuse

Go F*ck yourself McNabb. I hope you break something the first game and retire.

Posted by: wdv1137 | April 4, 2010 9:06 PM |

Yea that would be great for the Skins. You ain't too bright are you?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 4, 2010 9:11 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: MonkMossMann | April 4, 2010 9:11 PM | Report abuse

So Rex is here to train starter McNabb and back him up. Jason will be traded.

Posted by: artsnsportz | April 4, 2010 9:12 PM | Report abuse

@carsonspence

Al Davis still thinks its 1983. He may send all his draft picks to the Skins...a la Mike Ditka when he drafted Ricky Williams.

Posted by: robostop10 | April 4, 2010 9:12 PM | Report abuse

This is an awful trade for a team who's REBUILDING. WTF does a 33 year old QB do for us?

Snyder is awful.

Posted by: smutsboy | April 4, 2010 9:12 PM | Report abuse

Ok, well, it seems clear to me that the only thing we have in DC worse than DM is the skins management and Obama. There is nothing we can do about Obama but live with him. Why in god's name couldn't we do something better than get someone else's has been QB? Oh, I forgot skins management is number 2 above. We just wasted two draft picks for nothing. DM will do nothing spectacular and then be gone in two years. In the mean time, our draft picks will be playing for the Eagles cause they can apparently pick good ones based on recent history.

Posted by: Obamasux | April 4, 2010 9:12 PM | Report abuse

Like it or not, this is a steal for the Redskins.

We get the QB position solidified for 4-5 years, and we give up a 2nd round pick. How many 2nd round picks have that kind of value? Just look at the 3 2nd round picks on our team!

Posted by: jgarrisn | April 4, 2010 9:12 PM | Report abuse

Of two minds on this subject. On the one hand I think that this is a very bad trade. On the other hand, though, it means that the first round draft pick is still there. It also means that most likely the Redskins won't be drafting Claussen, Bradford, or Tebow in the draft. They will already have four quarterbacks. I don't see how they can ad another.

Maybe they brought in McNabb to challenge Campbell and to have a genuine competition for the position between them both and Rex Grossman. If that's the case then this isn't that bad of a trade, if Shanahan's goal is to foster competition at the position.

Initially I was agahst at the idea of bringing Willie Parker and Larry Johnson to the team. However, on the bright side, it seems like the new coach wants to have competition for the position.

If the result of these trades is more competition, then I'm for it. I'm for it if it improves the play of the current line of QBs and RBs. If Portis, Paker, and Johnson increase their production to win the starting spot, then that'll be a good thing. If having Grossman, Campbell, and McNabb raises their professional skills, then it will be good.

Maybe this is a signal from the new coach that there will be competition. Or am I wrong here?

Posted by: jiacinto | April 4, 2010 9:13 PM | Report abuse

Who are we rooting for exactly?

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | April 4, 2010 9:13 PM | Report abuse

Well, I HAD started to become a Redskins fan. Oh, well.

GO CAPS!

Posted by: ooyah32 | April 4, 2010 9:13 PM | Report abuse

JC is alright... We need a OL... Simple...

Posted by: kwrichardsonii | April 4, 2010 9:13 PM | Report abuse

Splash Baby, Splash!! The uncapped pool is open and the water is fine!! Gather up the big names and start selling the jerseys. Can TO be far behind?

Posted by: Natmeister | April 4, 2010 9:15 PM | Report abuse

Everything I've ever heard strongly suggests that Donovan McNabb is a class act and a great guy. Welcome to Washington!!

Posted by: indy474 | April 4, 2010 9:15 PM | Report abuse

Dear Vinny Cerrato,

PLEASE COME BACK!

Posted by: filmchis | April 4, 2010 9:15 PM | Report abuse

Officially no longer a Redskins fan. Just when you thought they couldn't make a worse trade.

Posted by: Dahlhouse


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Good, we won't miss you. GTFO!!!

On a separate note, I like this move. He's better than Campbell. I said it all along, Shanahan is a smart guy. The more he studies Campbell, the less he would like.

Atleast McNabb offers quick reads, and quick release. He's a much better QB.

Posted by: Redskin_in_miami | April 4, 2010 9:15 PM | Report abuse

Put me in the category that sees this as trading away a high draft pick for a big name at the end of his career. Another 'just 1 guy away' deal. History repeating.

My guess is that Shanahan wanted no part of Campbell, saw the price was too high to grab Bradford from the Rams. Plan B was to get McNabb -- a lot cheaper than Bradford and less risk. McNabb will buy Shanahan 3 years.

Still, you can't justify this deal without thinking 'win now'.

Obviously, McNabb is an upgrade at QB. But is this team really ready to win now?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 4, 2010 9:16 PM | Report abuse

good move...lifelong Redskins fan here. now what we can do is get concentrate on the OL-
get a good left tackle and move on. simple as that. love you JC, but get out of Dodge and move on. you could be a Pro Bowl player elsewhere

Posted by: mherdt1 | April 4, 2010 9:08 PM | Report abuse

No offense, but the only way Jason Campbell is going to the Pro Bowl is if he buys tickets like the rest of us. Nice guy. Class act. Certainly not all his fault. Decent stats. But at the end of the day, he just dosn't score the points. Points. You can't win in this league putting up 14 or 17 points. Sorry.

Posted by: christophermdavis | April 4, 2010 9:16 PM | Report abuse

How can you hate on this move? You get a proven, Pro Bowl QB who has SB and Playoff experience for what? A 2nd round pick. Now we don't have to play the crap shoot with Clausen and can focus on selecting a LT.

Posted by: BT23 | April 4, 2010 9:16 PM | Report abuse

Everything I've ever heard strongly suggests that Donovan McNabb is a class act and a great guy. Welcome to Washington!!

Posted by: indy474 | April 4, 2010 9:17 PM | Report abuse

Uh, what?

Posted by: hobbes9 | April 4, 2010 9:17 PM | Report abuse

Man i see people on here saying Mcnabb sucks and this was a bad trade???? Your on crack!

posted by: leevi98 | April 4, 2010 9:06 PM


This is a bad trade for THE REDSKINS...if the Cardinals or Vikings or 49ers make this move it's a great trade because they have the pieces in place to be a contender. The Redskins are a team that's SUPPOSED to be rebuilding and yet give up precious picks for a 33 year-old QB? What happened to Shanny "raising" a QB?

So yes, this trade sucks. It's more delusion at Redskins Park...the FO and ownership thinking that it's only a player or two away from contention when in reality they need 2 or 3 offseasons of patient building. Now that McNabb is in the fold, the expectations for this team will shoot thru the roof even though they still have a sh*t offensive line and the defense is getting an overhaul.

This is beyond lame and Allen/Shanny are gonna have some serious 'splainin' to do...

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 4, 2010 9:17 PM | Report abuse

This gives us instant winning experience at QB and time to develop the heir apparent.
Its good and he is an improvement over Soup.
Its just short term people.

Posted by: westjr88 | April 4, 2010 9:17 PM | Report abuse

wide right, wide left. You're gonna love this guy he is so NOT accurate. Remember when he used to be able to run for 1st downs? Yeah, he can't do that anymore. Remember how Campbell at least could get it to Cooley and Moss? Yeah, well, McNabb can't do any of that. Otherwise, he's a stud and it's a great move. He's great in the locker room. Great guy. Fun. Mom is real cool. Has teammates over for dinner. It's all good, as they say. Best part? The NFC East studs have nothing on this guy. He'll trick em and fool em. Like I say, it's all good. Great move by Vinny. Huh? What you say?

Posted by: TheDubb | April 4, 2010 9:17 PM | Report abuse

this is a trade seriously i don't like forget his numbers for a minute at this point in his career he's not worth 2 high picks and possibly one high and one low he is about somewhere between 32 to 33 all he can give you is possibly 2 seasons and that's it the only things that is positive is that you can use him as a mentor when you draft a young starting quarterback but to me that price is too high pierod

Posted by: rmnkevorkian | April 4, 2010 9:17 PM | Report abuse

I need a drink............

Posted by: ericenderle | April 4, 2010 9:19 PM | Report abuse

This is worse than when we signed Deion Sanders. I feel like I'm going to puke. How can you root for someone you have spent the last 11 years hating with a passion. And whoever posted that he would have to compete for the job, LMAO. You don't bring in a player at around 11 million a year and have him sit. Won't happen. Don't think much of JC either, but now a older version.

Posted by: captnbill | April 4, 2010 9:19 PM | Report abuse

Say what you will, but next season is guaranteed to be a whole lot more interesting ~ and a whole lot more fun to watch ~ than last season was!!

Posted by: michaelstarr | April 4, 2010 9:19 PM | Report abuse

Trading JC 17 for a 3rd might put some salve on the wound of losing the second rounder....

Please let us get Okung!

Posted by: edvar | April 4, 2010 9:20 PM | Report abuse

For those of you saying this is a bad move....Have you watched the Eagles the past decade? Have you also watched the Skins the past decade? If I'm not mistaken McNabb has had much more success than Banks, Ramsey, Wuerrfel, Matthews....I don't even feel like finishing that.

HTTR NFC East title next year.

Who's With Me?

Posted by: iH8dallas | April 4, 2010 9:20 PM | Report abuse

Good move. We instantly have a legit QB, and didn't have to give up that much 2nd round and 3rd or 4th. I like it - we upgraded and didn't give up a 1st (danny must not have been involved).

Posted by: gs12 | April 4, 2010 9:20 PM | Report abuse

Good move. We instantly have a legit QB, and didn't have to give up that much 2nd round and 3rd or 4th. I like it - we upgraded and didn't give up a 1st (danny must not have been involved).

Posted by: gs12 | April 4, 2010 9:20 PM | Report abuse

Good move. We instantly have a legit QB, and didn't have to give up that much 2nd round and 3rd or 4th. I like it - we upgraded and didn't give up a 1st (danny must not have been involved).

Posted by: gs12 | April 4, 2010 9:20 PM | Report abuse

Best move skins have made in 10 years..

Posted by: jaythrowback1 | April 4, 2010 9:21 PM | Report abuse

All the fans jumping ship you were a terrible fan anyway. Adios nobody cares

Posted by: Mike4169 | April 4, 2010 9:21 PM | Report abuse

Well, well, well... We now have an upper echelon qb!!! Say goodbye to JC!!!!!! Now its time to draft some linemen a lb and a fs!!!

Posted by: goskinsgo1 | April 4, 2010 9:21 PM | Report abuse

Flounder, I hope what you hope, but don't think it's likely.

Of course, I was on record as sayin' the Iggles would NEVER trade McNabb to the Skins.

Obviously, they think he can't hurt them.

Of all the QB options discussed on here in the past month or two, this certainly isn't the worst one.

Certainly lowers the odds that the Skins will draft a QB at 4. Best scenario now is definitely trading down to get that number 2 back.

Still in shock over this...

Posted by: RedskinWillie | April 4, 2010 9:22 PM | Report abuse

I dont see Campbell having a problem as a #2 behind McNabb. Not like you're asking him to "sit and learn" behind a doof like Grossman.

And in time, if all goes well, in a couple years, McNabb can be the backup and ride out his career carrying a clipboard and being a Kyle Shanahan understudy and mentor to JC17, or whoever is there.

I like it.

An Old McNabb for (an old Healthy McNabb) for a second round pick?

Good job. I hope Campbell is smart enough to stay.

Posted by: Thinker_ | April 4, 2010 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, Danny is still in charge. But maybe the Skins can challenge for the championship. It is 2004 isn't it? All of the acquisitions are old guys, every one. No need to build for the future when you can be mediocre RIGHT NOW.

OK they get to 7-9. But then what?

Posted by: EdDC | April 4, 2010 9:22 PM | Report abuse

I love how people up here now think that it's a lock that JC is getting traded...by getting McNabb, the Redskins just lost all their leverage. If there was a price to begin with, it just went down after this trade!

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 4, 2010 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Well, this marks the end of two things:

McNabb's career in that he got traded to Loserville, which will accelerate his professional decline;

Any chance of turning around Loserville.

Redskins fans, kiss your Super Bowl hopes goodbye for at least a couple of more seasons, which is what it will take for Snyder to realize his mistake.

Posted by: dcurules | April 4, 2010 9:22 PM | Report abuse

So this team is now made of OVER 30 RBs and multiple QBs but still no O line.

I would not be surprised if they STILL draft a QB at #4. Obviously "Shanallenyder" loves RBs and QBs.

Posted by: Lisa_R | April 4, 2010 9:22 PM | Report abuse

gs12 - HOW in world do you think this is a good trade??? If the Eagles thought he was any good still - do you think they would have traded him within the division??? I think not - they are not that stupid. Only the 'Skins are stupid enough to make this deal. this is a disaster...

Posted by: Stevida | April 4, 2010 9:22 PM | Report abuse

dumb

Posted by: drpolarbear | April 4, 2010 9:23 PM | Report abuse

We got McNabb for a 2nd round pick? What a steal. You guys think about this for a second, McNabb is 33 years old. The Vikings were one bad call away from the Super Bowl with Favre who is 40. I think McNabb will sign a long term deal and stay with the Skins for a while. I think it's a great move. Now we can take Okung in the draft.

Posted by: whipster56 | April 4, 2010 9:24 PM | Report abuse

What. A. Joke. Shanny is more Danny than Danny.

Posted by: natemcfarlane | April 4, 2010 9:24 PM | Report abuse

I live in Philly so I watch the Eagles play a lot. Sure McNabb isn't as mobile any more and throws some balls in the dirt, but I never quite understood why Eagles fans were calling so hard for Kolb. He doesn't seem like much. McNabb now brings the second-most solid understanding of the Eagles' playbook (Second only to Reid) to the Redskins side of the ball.

To all those heads that are saying they are no longer fans of the skins need to get a grip. The skins can groom a later round QB, trade Campbell now, draft an LT and put the QB debate on hold for a year or two. The fact that people would be willing to leave this team NOW were never really fans to begin with. I've suffered through the Snyder era just like everyone else, but I still bleed burgundy and gold and will continue to regardless of anything.

McNabb is going to want to destroy the Eagles twice a year. Who are we to stop him? Why would we stop him? I'm looking forward to seeing what happens.

HTTR

Posted by: Beggarsandthieves | April 4, 2010 9:24 PM | Report abuse

When will we ever build a team through the draft ? just what we need a 33 year old for second and third round picks no one else is dumb enough to give up.. same old skins..

Posted by: vpar57 | April 4, 2010 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Not sure I like this move......that 37th pick is a high pick to a division rival.

The only way I like this pick is if they trade Campbell for a 2nd or 3rd and recoup what they lost.

Granted McNabb is better than JC...but for how long.....maybe 4 years left in his career.

Aargh.....Why didn't the Redskins stay pat until the draft in 3 weeks!!!???

Posted by: GoonieGooGoo | April 4, 2010 9:25 PM | Report abuse

What this deal says more than anything is that Mike Shanahan believes he can coach. All of us fans in Washington are conditioned to believe that the Redskins suck because they've made terrible front office moves.

While that is certainly true, the Redskins haven't been well coached since Gibbs I - or maybe Schottenheimer's first season. So it might be easy to blame Snyderatto for the Skin's woes, but let's not forget that Spurrier, Zorn - and even Gibbs II - were overmatched and not legitimate NFL head coaches.

The point is that veterans can win in the NFL, if they're coached properly. Shanahan might actually be the missing piece. Let's give him a chance to coach some real games before we judge this.

If the Skins end up winning, no one will care what draft picks went where.

Posted by: benz9 | April 4, 2010 9:25 PM | Report abuse

What this deal says more than anything is that Mike Shanahan believes he can coach. All of us fans in Washington are conditioned to believe that the Redskins suck because they've made terrible front office moves.

While that is certainly true, the Redskins haven't been well coached since Gibbs I - or maybe Schottenheimer's first season. So it might be easy to blame Snyderatto for the Skin's woes, but let's not forget that Spurrier, Zorn - and even Gibbs II - were overmatched and not legitimate NFL head coaches.

The point is that veterans can win in the NFL, if they're coached properly. Shanahan might actually be the missing piece. Let's give him a chance to coach some real games before we judge this.

If the Skins end up winning, no one will care what draft picks went where.

Posted by: benz9 | April 4, 2010 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Wow! This is a total shocker. I guess we got our answer as to what the new coach and GM and think of Campbell.

Posted by: skinsFan74 | April 4, 2010 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Say hello to your new Washington Team Grecian!!! On a lighter note, little Scotty likes his carrots.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 4, 2010 9:25 PM | Report abuse

WHAT!?!?!?

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | April 4, 2010 9:26 PM | Report abuse

For the last 11 years I have named this guy everything in the book, now I have to eat my words! Holly cow this is wild! See ya JC17.

Posted by: Gltek01 | April 4, 2010 9:26 PM | Report abuse

They gave up way to much for a quarterback the Eagles did not want. This is insane.

Posted by: sonofliberty09 | April 4, 2010 9:26 PM | Report abuse

calm down people!!! He's coming in to compete just like Willy Parker and Larry Johnson....

Posted by: MajorFacemask | April 4, 2010 8:48 PM

Except we didn't give up a second rounder for the other old guys.

Posted by: Alan4 | April 4, 2010 9:26 PM | Report abuse

BWAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA

If I don't laugh I'll cry at this development.

Posted by: kpew | April 4, 2010 9:26 PM | Report abuse

Donovan is 33. How much is that in football years? In recent seasons he's seemed less than bulletproof. Maybe if you collect enough quarterbacks you don't have to worry about a weak offensive line?

Posted by: jlhare1 | April 4, 2010 9:27 PM | Report abuse

JC, the following phrase may come handy:
"Would you like fries with that?"

Posted by: hock1 | April 4, 2010 9:27 PM | Report abuse

This is very gutsy move by the Skins. I like it. It says we are not completely rebuilding. Now it is clear that we will draft Okung. Okung/Dockery/Rabach/Hicks/Williams a very respectable O-Line.

McNabb is the best QB the Redskins have had in over 2 decades.

Now, trade Campbell for a 3rd round pick in this years draft.

Posted by: JSchon | April 4, 2010 9:27 PM | Report abuse

Donovan is 33. How much is that in football years? In recent seasons he's seemed less than bulletproof. Maybe if you collect enough quarterbacks you don't have to worry about a weak offensive line?

Posted by: jlhare1 | April 4, 2010 9:27 PM | Report abuse

Well, in the words of the great Howard Cossell..... "Down goes Jason".."Down goes Jason".. As much as I like JC...and really really hate McNabb...because he's a Eagle.. this is obviously a big upgrade at QB... Now like everyone else..I must get over the shock of it all...and realize "Change" has finally come to DC. Now hopefully they'll trade down for more picks...in the 1st and 2nd round of the draft so they can add some quality personnel to the O-line.

Posted by: pebrooks | April 4, 2010 9:27 PM | Report abuse

Good QB...weirdest thing is going to be rooting for him. I've hated his ass for so long, always looks smug on the sideline. He competes, though. Gonna have to get used to this one, unless this is the first part of a 3 team deal.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | April 4, 2010 9:27 PM | Report abuse

So much for rebuilding. You don't bring in a guy like McNabb unless you are making moves for the playoffs and beyond. I'm taking the wait and see approach though.

Posted by: dcwizard | April 4, 2010 9:27 PM | Report abuse

So much for rebuilding. You don't bring in a guy like McNabb unless you are making moves for the playoffs and beyond. I'm taking the wait and see approach though.

Posted by: dcwizard | April 4, 2010 9:27 PM | Report abuse

So much for rebuilding. You don't bring in a guy like McNabb unless you are making moves for the playoffs and beyond. I'm taking the wait and see approach though.

Posted by: dcwizard | April 4, 2010 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Writing down all the names ...why??? cause when we start winning ....i am gonna call ya out! and demand you leave our nation and our blog!

Posted by: leevi98


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Funny thing. I've done the same. But also for the Campbell fans. When he SUCKS next year for another team, I'll also call them out.

Posted by: Redskin_in_miami | April 4, 2010 9:29 PM | Report abuse

great move!! so much for comcast sports network having the inside scoop on the skins

Posted by: anacostia85 | April 4, 2010 9:29 PM | Report abuse

Over the hill gang is back...HTTR!!!

Posted by: ys343 | April 4, 2010 9:29 PM | Report abuse

Way to be third on the story (behind ESPN and ProfootballTalk), guys

Posted by: mohammed10
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Way to be a pr!ck, mohammed10.

Posted by: PrinceBuster21 | April 4, 2010 9:29 PM | Report abuse

Don't count me as one who says this is bad for the Redskins.
This is very good for the Redskins...
Next season.

However, with draft experts saying this is a deep draft, and the Skins having holes they should be trading down to pick up more picks in a deep draft.
Good for next year, time will tell about years 2011 and beyond.

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | April 4, 2010 9:29 PM | Report abuse

andy reid on espnews in 2 min

Posted by: rachel216 | April 4, 2010 9:30 PM | Report abuse

AHHH!!! Smells like a Cerrato deal to me...trade away the future for a injury-prone player in the twilight of his career. Seems I remember a similar deal going down a couple of years ago, Jason Taylor sound familiar?
I thought Cerrato was let go. So much for Shanny and Allen coming in and changing how we do things around here.

Posted by: INIOWA | April 4, 2010 9:30 PM | Report abuse

This makes it pretty clear The Danny is still running the team: overpaying for yet another over-the-hill marquee player.

Posted by: stratman1 | April 4, 2010 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Wow! I was on record Friday saying there's no way the Iggles trade McNabb to an NFC East opponent. I'm eating my words tonight. So, what happens now? Campbell and the #4 to the Rams for Bradford? Take Okung? Drop back for Bulaga and McClain (or any combination of two 1st round caliber players like Trent Williams or Bruce Campbell or CJ Spiller or Joe Haden or Anthony Davis or Charles Brown or Kyle Wilson or Taylor Mays or Maurkice Puncey)?

Posted by: C-DubDC | April 4, 2010 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Terrible move!!! McNabb only has a couple good years left, and he's in the last year of his contract. Do you REALLY think he will re-sign? They have a lot of holes to fill, and now eveb fewer picks to do that with! They were in a position to get the best OT in the draft, and I suppose still could. However, now they have no 2nd, and no 3rd, which statistically is where you get starters from. Now they have put themselves in a position to have to trade back to get more picks. Although this draft is deep in OT talent, trading down increases the risk of drafting a bust. Okung was practically a sure thing at LT, which the team needs desperately regardless of who plays QB. The Skins are acting as if QB was the last piece they needed with their current team to make a Super Bowl run! Sorry, but they are a long way from that level. Keep in mind that changing the defensive scheme leaves holes there as well. No known return specialist. Just so many holes to fill, with little chance to fill them. I have been a fan of most of their moves thus far, but this one makes no sense in far more ways than what he could bring to the team. I have been a Campbell supporter, and had hoped he might shine with the new staff, but unfortunately now it looks like they need to trade him for a 2nd or a 3rd and move on.

Posted by: jwat2410 | April 4, 2010 9:30 PM | Report abuse

So Rex is here to train starter McNabb and back him up. Jason will be traded.

Posted by: artsnsportz | April 4, 2010 9:31 PM | Report abuse

why did we buy this overpriced old fart? sigh....

Posted by: skins82 | April 4, 2010 9:31 PM | Report abuse

If the goal is to foster competition for the position then I am for it. Or if they are going to trade Campbell for linemen then I am for it. Still I am in shock.

Posted by: jiacinto | April 4, 2010 9:31 PM | Report abuse

a high second round pick plus other picks for a used up 33 year old!!!!

Dumb, dumb, dumb.

oh well, another version of Mr. Brunell.

Posted by: drpolarbear | April 4, 2010 9:31 PM | Report abuse

Donovan McNabb is a "West Coast Offense" Quarterback. Mike&Mike (Holmgren and Shanahan) are the prime exemplars of "west coast" offensive thinking still alive, and coach Shanahan has been given the keys to the cookie jar. And you STILL have the 1st round pick. i think Mr. Reid had his pockets picked.

i am a died in the wool 49er fan and i can speak to the excellence of Coach Shanahan without having to get into John Elway.

i predict fabulous victories over the mutually hated Cowboys and Giants. Mr. McNabb will love having Philly on his sched. those losers booed his draft pick in the first place.

Redskins win east

Posted by: mykulw | April 4, 2010 9:31 PM | Report abuse

Locker room, meet cancer. Cancer, locker room....

Posted by: oldtimehockey | April 4, 2010 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Absolutely idiotic trade.

• Still no offensive line.
• Cooley, Moss and a bunch of scrubs catching passes.
• Beat-up Portis, useless Johnson and unknown Parker in running game.

First Larry Johnson, now this. Shanahan's start as Washington's personnel guru has started with two resounding THUDs.

What, five draft picks was too many?

Posted by: DC2Dallas | April 4, 2010 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Steveida - I think it's a good move because we got a LEGIT NFL QB, for a 2nd round and 3rd or 4th. Do you seriously think JC is better then McNabb? c'mon. I don't argue that we def need to get O linemen in the draft, but i like this move. He is a winner.

Posted by: gs12 | April 4, 2010 9:32 PM | Report abuse

OK, so, I thought McNabb played for Buffalo last year. What's up with that? Is this a three way trade with the Bills and Eagles?

What's Vinnie thinking?!

Posted by: Thinker_ | April 4, 2010 9:32 PM | Report abuse

I'm not so concerned about the age part. I can think of 3 30+ QB's in the playoffs the last 2 years off the top of my head: Warner, Favre, Collins (Kerry). Any others?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 4, 2010 9:32 PM | Report abuse

I wish you dummies would stop hating on the Redskins so much and just let Allen and Shanny do their thing for a while. This isn't the last move we are going to make. I didn't know what to make of this at first, but after thinking about it, it really does make sense. If Shanny has decided that JC is not good enough to be his qb (i love JC but he might not have what we need) then we need somebody who can take his spot and its not Grossman. It hurts losing those picks but now we don't have to use the first pick on a qb so thats a big gain.

Also, even if Mcnabb never plays a game for us this might be worth it. Shanny has never coached in the nfc east before and Andy Reid is going to be the Eagles coach for a long long time. Nobody knows his playbook better than Mcnabb. Now we know everything they can do n we play them at least twice a year. I'd give up draft picks just for that edge. It will be more worth it if we can sign Mcnabb to a few more years though. The only problem I have is that I've hated Mcnabb so passionately for so long that this is going to be a difficult adjustment. I hate him less than Romo or Eli though, so I think I can grow to forgive Mcnabb for his dastardly past.

Posted by: bosshog7169 | April 4, 2010 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Writing down all the names ...why??? cause when we start winning ....i am gonna call ya out! and demand you leave our nation and our blog!

Posted by: leevi98


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Funny thing. I've done the same. But also for the Campbell fans. When he SUCKS next year for another team, I'll also call them out.

Posted by: Redskin_in_miami | April 4, 2010 9:29 PM

Yeah, and I'm writing down all the names of the JC haters that will think we're automatically legit now that DMac will be here...despite playing behind the same crappy line that almost got JC killed.

The number is 86.4. If McNabb is at or below that QB rating for next season, there's gonna be a lot of JC haters eating their words come January...

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 4, 2010 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Did Andy Reid climb 40 flights of stairs to get to this presser?

Posted by: SMACK1 | April 4, 2010 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Dumb Snyder-esque move again... gonna over-pay for a bad older player...

Posted by: justabill | April 4, 2010 9:34 PM | Report abuse

just tell me there's no way they draft a QB fourth overall, right?

Posted by: jroot11 | April 4, 2010 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Considering this trade in the big picture...it might get them to 8-8 in the short term...however in the long term it will not help when you have young great NFC teams like New Orleans (Brees), Green Bay (Rodgers), and Cowboys (Romo). The Skins cannot get past these young teams in the next 5 years by getting older.

Posted by: dudgie | April 4, 2010 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Right about now, JC needs to sign his RFA tender. Could be the easiest $3 million he'll ever earh.

Posted by: League-Source | April 4, 2010 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Dumb Snyder-esque move again... gonna over-pay for a bad older player...

Posted by: justabill | April 4, 2010 9:34 PM | Report abuse

I'm stunned, simply stunned! Wow! The Eagles actually traded McNabb to the Skins for 37th this year and 4th round pick next year. I'm still stunned, wow! I need my Remmy! I must be too sober to grab any concept in this. The main question now is what's the plan for JC? Who will be here as QB? What would we do in the draft? Is the rumors of SUH to the Skins actually true? Guys I'm confused, I mean very, very confused! I thought Shanahan and Allen are in charge but, wow! Vinny and Danny strikes again!

Posted by: abxinc | April 4, 2010 9:34 PM | Report abuse

if i woke up with my head sewn to the carpet i wouldn't be more suprised than i am right now

Posted by: vtsquirm1 | April 4, 2010 9:34 PM | Report abuse

This draft is deep and we are giving up draft picks for an old quarterback. This is crazy. Vinny could not have done it better.

Posted by: sonofliberty09 | April 4, 2010 9:36 PM | Report abuse

11 year QB for a 2nd & 3rd or 4th round pick? Man, I don't get it.

Posted by: wp264 | April 4, 2010 9:36 PM | Report abuse

Donovan McNabb is a "West Coast Offense" Quarterback. Mike&Mike (Holmgren and Shanahan) are the prime exemplars of "west coast" offensive thinking still alive, and coach Shanahan has been given the keys to the cookie jar. And you STILL have the 1st round pick. i think Mr. Reid had his pockets picked.

i am a died in the wool 49er fan and i can speak to the excellence of Coach Shanahan without having to get into John Elway.

i predict fabulous victories over the mutually hated Cowboys and Giants. Mr. McNabb will love having Philly on his sched. those losers booed his draft pick in the first place.

Redskins win east

Posted by: mykulw | April 4, 2010 9:31 PM

Excellent.

Posted by: anacostia85 | April 4, 2010 9:36 PM | Report abuse

Redskins. Have. No. Offensive. Line.

What if Okung is a bust? Or gets hurt? Or isn't ready?

They need two tackles, a guard and 3-4 backups.

If they get that, the McNabb deal is terrific.

Until then, the jury is out.

Posted by: SteveMG | April 4, 2010 9:36 PM | Report abuse

now that's a curve ball!!!!! WTF!!!

Posted by: madalao | April 4, 2010 9:38 PM | Report abuse

ALLEN JUST LIKE HIS DADDY! LOADING US WITH UP WITH A LOT OF OVER THE HILL VETS! THIS IS SOME BULL SHIGADDY!

Posted by: nivla | April 4, 2010 9:39 PM | Report abuse

I'm still not willing to bet the farm that we don't walk away from the 1st round without Bradford or Clausen. Shanny said he wants a QB to mentor and he knows McNabb ain't getting any younger. He had Plummer and still drafted Cutler. All I'm saying is don't remove Bradford and Clausen from your draft boards just yet.

Posted by: C-DubDC | April 4, 2010 9:39 PM | Report abuse

The NFL is driven by the quarterback position. Look what Warner did for the perennial doormat Cardinals. Look what Brees did for the Saints. Or how the Patriots fortunes improved when Bledsoe (a good QB) got injured, and Brady (an elite QB) took over. How many wins were those QB changes worth to their teams? 3, 4, 5 each season? That is huge.

I think its a good move for both teams.

The Eagles were fortunate to have a surplus at the QB position, so they stocked up on picks in a deep draft year. Smart.

The Redskins needed to get better production from their passing game. I have the utmost respect for JCs professionalism and toughness, and I think he has some more upside given a better supporting cast. but I doubt he would ever be able to light up a defense like McNabb has proven he can do. McNabb is not quite as consistent as Brees or Brady, but when he is on, he is just as accurate and decisive with the ball (and more mobile). If we can re-sign McNabb, and he plays 75% of the snaps for the next 3 years, I think the Redskins will have gotten a great value for their picks. The QB position is uber-important.

Some teams play the QB roulette wheel for decades before they get a top 8 QB. This costs a lot of money, a lot of high draft picks, plus time/frustration. The Redskins may no longer have to play this game for a while.

Now, the Redskins top 3 priorities need to be: OL, OL, and OL.

Packaging JC and our 1st rounder for multiple picks in this deep draft sounds like a good idea to me. I wish JC the best -- he is a class act.

Posted by: JT61 | April 4, 2010 9:39 PM | Report abuse

I just understand this move. Watching McNubb play against the Cowboys at the end of the year, it is clear he is washed up. How much of this is a product of a one-dimensional offense that puts everything on his shoulders? How much of the poor play is just a person who has been poorly prepared on other occasions? And are we getting a quarterback with the work ethic of Clinton Portis? After seeing his choke performance in the Super Bowl, I'm convinced he is lazy and unwilling to keep himself in shape.

I hope Shanny works his ass off. He needs a big butt whooping. McNubb is an underachiever with inflated statistics. That sounds like a contradiction, but in the end, you can't count on him. He's a choker. And he better have solved his telegraphing of the run or pass play that I've even noticed.

I'm so against this move.

Posted by: laserwizard | April 4, 2010 9:39 PM | Report abuse

We need to get starters on th OL. Time for some action at that position.

Posted by: TWISI | April 4, 2010 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Dunno how I feel about this yet... I see McNabb took 35 sacks last season, probably because Philly, despite their off-season acquisitions, had their own offensive line problems. Also they had no running attack to speak of (22nd in the NFL). The thing you always look for as a measure of passing effectiveness is yards per completion (that's probably more reliable than the NFL's twisty QB rating system) and Donovan's was an excellent 8.0. Of course he had no TE to speak of so he threw to the WRs quite a bit.

Which brings us to the issue of why the Iggles felt they had to get rid of him. Reid clearly didn't think so at the end of last year. But given the strategy they're following -- promoting Kolb, hanging on to Vick, and accumulating draft choices for this year and next (they're up to 11 for this draft), you have to figure they're rebuilding more than reloading.

Something the Skins should have done after that last Gibbs season. Hindsight being 20-20.

As to what they do with Jason, I can't see him sticking. Question is, where do they send him?

Posted by: Samson151 | April 4, 2010 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Imagine this folks:
Philly has been entertaining offers for the last two weeks for McNabb.
And look who came along and gave him the best offer?
A divisional team!
Must have been much better offer.

Again, I think this is very good for next year, but I now possess a new fear:
Shanahan is older and feels the need to win now, as does Bruce who with all the ages of these moves, he may be George reincarnated.

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | April 4, 2010 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Here's my take - they didn't think they could get up to take Bradford, would have had to give up too much. Didn't like
Clausen at 4 and didn't like anyone at #37 more than mcnabb.....I can live with that reasoning. Mcnabb makes you viable now, wont throw picks, doesn't take chances. We'll win more games now because of the move - I think the FO thought that after sucking ass for the better part of 20 years the fan base needed to see improvement and this year. Flip side is mcnabb only has warning track power....he'll get you close but i don't think he's got the mettle to close the deal. I'd of rather seen the team find some youth at the QB position and suck it up for a year of two (again - we've been eating ass since 1993; what's another year?). My guess is that this was the coach, not the owner, taking a chance on getting the QB position taken care of for 3-5 years and building around that. Not my preference but if he can build the line, trade a few players for middle round picks (let's be honest - maybe you get a 3rd for campbell, maybe a 3rd for Carter, maybe a 3rd for cooley) and you can get some young quality players to put around the new QB.
I work in the Philly area so I hear the mcnabb debate everyday.....they are tough on their stars but he brings some of it on himself with his goofy statements and his inability to show up big in big games.
We'll see Mr. Shanahan......

Posted by: DESkinzFan1 | April 4, 2010 9:40 PM | Report abuse

You guys are crying about how old Mcnabb is? Putting a great offensive line around JC is like putting a security fence around a birdhouse get over it.

Posted by: anacostia85 | April 4, 2010 9:40 PM | Report abuse

W.T.F.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: bdarr44 | April 4, 2010 9:41 PM | Report abuse

I'm actually excited about this move because I did not like the top QBs available in this draft.

I told some of my friends/co-workers that I suspected the Skins were involved when Adam Shefter reported that a mystery team was involved in talks w/Philly, but had asked them to keep it quiet so that the team's current QB did not hear about it. Nice to know that the FO can keep things in house, now.

Obviously the team has MANY holes that need to be filled (O-line etc.), but some of the criticism of this trade is way off.

All the talk about his age...Come on Peyton is 6 months older and oh yeah I forgot how terrible Kurt Warner was after turning 34. Oops...

His recent injuries are a much wiser choice as an area of concern, but who knows how much letting him hand it off more than 10 percent of the time could protect him.

Posted by: SportzWiz | April 4, 2010 9:42 PM | Report abuse

This is not good. Have you ever noticed how McNabb occasionally looks really, really bad for an entire game: under-throwing, over-throwing, throwing interceptions, etc. It's inexplicable and sometimes looks deliberate. I hope not. Modern football is not a game for over-30 men. It's too fast and too physical. McNabb's best days are behind him. Maybe Ted Leonsis can buy the Redskins someday and really rebuild the team.

Posted by: wjssparky | April 4, 2010 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Shout out to that bama FOURTH FLOOR for calling this one!

I'm sort of stuck right now, literally and figuratively, so I really don't know what to think of this trade.

I'm not all siced like 4th, but I don't hate it either.


If they get more picks on draft day -- while upgrading the line -- then I'm good.

I don't see how Campbell remains here, but that's just me.

Posted by: RedDMV | April 4, 2010 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Well, it's a new coach, but same old stupid management. Trade two draft choices for a QB that is clearly on the downside of a great career? Instead of drafting stud linemen, which the Redskins so desperately need, they get taken to the cleaners once more.

Andy Reid is laughing his a** off at clueless Danny Snyder.

Posted by: Storis38 | April 4, 2010 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Personally, I'm looking forward to the Richard Bartel Era.

Posted by: kjm1971 | April 4, 2010 9:43 PM | Report abuse

Pfffffffffffft! What a joke!

Posted by: Pepper5 | April 4, 2010 9:43 PM | Report abuse

why would the redskins do this they need to build the team around a young qb not some guy who's washed up and near the end of his career the eagles didn't trade him for no reason

Posted by: HailSkins14 | April 4, 2010 9:43 PM | Report abuse

why would anyone trade anything of value for campbell. Its not like the Skins have a lot of leverage on that one. He has a 1 year deal. so its not like someone would be getting him for very long. He has never really accomplished much. He is physically beat up. He certainly would not be considered a young qb.

what do you guys think?

Posted by: SFcapsfan | April 4, 2010 9:43 PM | Report abuse

Please let Jason go . and do him a favor when you do. The guy's earned his ticket out.

Posted by: tslats | April 4, 2010 9:43 PM | Report abuse

On a lighter note, little Scotty likes his carrots.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 4, 2010 9:25 PM

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scamp,

any suggestions for a teething baby (not me, my 3 month old)

Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 4, 2010 9:43 PM | Report abuse

I believe the Skins may still try to get Bradford, or have already made the deal with St. Lewis. If this is true, I see them trading Campbell. Mcnabb maybe has 3 years or so left at best. I can see the skins using him as the starter while they get Bradford ready. That's the only thing that makes sense to me!

Posted by: calabash2 | April 4, 2010 9:43 PM | Report abuse

This may be the saddest feeling I've had as a Redskins fan of a couple of decades.
The move for McNabb is a boot heel stomping the nuts of the future of the team.
OUCH

Posted by: INIOWA | April 4, 2010 9:43 PM | Report abuse

Bullet format this time.

- JC is getting traded. What we get for him will be close to what we paid for McNabb.

- Portis is getting traded. 4th rd pick for him.

- EITHER 1 of our DBs or between Cooley or Davis will be traded.

- We will trade down to take 2 tackles.

With that being said, we would have addressed the OL. Gotten better at QB, and still got younger as a whole at the same time. I"m not a fan of this trade, but if we get OL, then I"m happy.

Last note... If we can manipulate SF to give us both their 1st rd picks for our #4 and JC, then we're gonna take 1 OL and Brandon Marshal. Just figured I'd get you all ready for it.

Posted by: alwaysactingafool | April 4, 2010 9:43 PM | Report abuse

This may be the saddest feeling I've had as a Redskins fan of a couple of decades.
The move for McNabb is a boot heel stomping the nuts of the future of the team.
OUCH

Posted by: INIOWA | April 4, 2010 9:44 PM | Report abuse

they make me sick with this BS!

Posted by: dakel76 | April 4, 2010 9:44 PM | Report abuse

i am done with this team! a fan for 40 years, i hate this move. just another sign of weakness that they can't do it on their own

Posted by: Mackydootz | April 4, 2010 9:45 PM | Report abuse

This just in... Redskins running the "Cougar Offense" same as the "Wildcat Offense", just with players in their 30's.

Posted by: ChrisWoody | April 4, 2010 9:46 PM | Report abuse

This may be the saddest feeling I've had as a Skins fan.
The move for McNabb is a boot heel stomping the nuts of the future of the team.
OUCH

Posted by: INIOWA | April 4, 2010 9:46 PM | Report abuse

what a great trade!!5 years ago

Posted by: DLESMonday | April 4, 2010 9:46 PM | Report abuse

Well so much for building for the future - this is just another in a long line of stupid, short-sighted moves for the Skins. You aren't anywhere close to being "just a McNabb" aways from being a playoff caliber team, so why do this? No way Okung falls to number 4 and even if he does, they need sooo much more. I'll say it again, the Skins are not a player or 2 away from contention - shouldn't have hired Bruce Allen.

Posted by: bendersx6 | April 4, 2010 9:46 PM | Report abuse

Well so much for building for the future - this is just another in a long line of stupid, short-sighted moves for the Skins. You aren't anywhere close to being "just a McNabb" aways from being a playoff caliber team, so why do this? No way Okung falls to number 4 and even if he does, they need sooo much more. I'll say it again, the Skins are not a player or 2 away from contention - shouldn't have hired Bruce Allen.

Posted by: bendersx6 | April 4, 2010 9:47 PM | Report abuse

Weird move.

Posted by: jfern03 | April 4, 2010 9:47 PM | Report abuse

As a Ravens fan, lol...

Posted by: kkd76 | April 4, 2010 9:47 PM | Report abuse

TDS
22
INT
10
YDS
3,553
RTG
92.9


Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 4, 2010 8:50 PM
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Chia_pet.... I'm assuming those are McNabb's numbers... Jason's aren't that shabby considering he was sacked a record 49 times.
Jason's 09 #'s:

TDS
20
INT
15
YDS
3,618
RTG
86.4

The way I see it....Give Jason a O-line and he's a pro-bowler... I'm not feeling this move at all....folks..

Posted by: pebrooks | April 4, 2010 9:47 PM | Report abuse

Finally found a way to get McNabb sacked!..........and maybe killed..

Posted by: jvbstable | April 4, 2010 9:47 PM | Report abuse

maybe they'll sign flozell adams to start at the o-line postiton because thats what wee need a they still haven't gotten any lineman...i think they move down in the draft and get a qb and lineman.

Posted by: HailSkins14 | April 4, 2010 9:48 PM | Report abuse

I hope they trade JC for a second then, Not sure what is the thought process but I said I would trust in Shanny.

Posted by: Flounder21

Ha ha! JC for a second. They could not get a bag of deflated balls for him!

Posted by: srobert1117 | April 4, 2010 9:48 PM | Report abuse

All of yall that are losing your minds over this.....do you think we were going to draft Bradford or one of them and start them next year??
Are you serious? This will help us get to where we want to be. Have patience.
We have sucked on offense for so long and did nothing but add defensive players. We will get the LT and the boys will work something out. Have faith.

Posted by: westjr88 | April 4, 2010 9:49 PM | Report abuse

I'll guarantee one thing: The same armchair quarterbacks who are trying to run Jason Campbell out of town will be trying to run McNabb out of town if he has two bad games in a row.

McNabb's a great quarterback, but putting him into this situation is not going to end well. The last thing the Redskins need to dominate the airwaves over the offseason is a quarterback controversy. Just get Campbell a few decent receivers and some pass protection and he'll be fine. But I suppose that would be asking too much.

Posted by: andym108 | April 4, 2010 9:49 PM | Report abuse

'skins have had a lot of young QB's in the last 10 years that haven't done squat. Last QB that was transformational was Brad Johnson.

Welcome to DC Donovan.

Posted by: mikem1 | April 4, 2010 9:50 PM | Report abuse

Over the hill gang part 2? Possibly. I hope its Sonny part 2 as well.

Posted by: clark202 | April 4, 2010 9:50 PM | Report abuse

scamp,

any suggestions for a teething baby (not me, my 3 month old)

Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 4, 2010 9:43 PM |

Oh yeah! I've got some of those little water filled teether toys I keep in the fridge. A wet, cold washcloth works best though. A clean finger works well too. As far as medicinal, there are these little tablets for teethers that dissolve in their mouth that are AWESOME. I'll ask the wifey what they're called.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 4, 2010 9:50 PM | Report abuse

Boy, I really thought they would fix the O-line, draft a young QB and let Campbell finish the year out until the QB is ready.

Fix the immediate problems first; then tinker at the edges.

McNabb is a nice QB. They've upgraded that position but the other problems are more serious.

I can't see any long-term strategy behind any of this (McNabb, Parker et al.). What's the plan? It seems that they're trying to assemble a team for the next two years and after that what?

Very weird.

Posted by: SteveMG | April 4, 2010 9:50 PM | Report abuse

The Iggles are stockpiling draft picks like ICBMs.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 4, 2010 9:50 PM | Report abuse

LOL ravens fan!! go away

Posted by: rachel216 | April 4, 2010 9:50 PM | Report abuse

putting mcnabb behind the current o line will only have people saying that he's a terrible qb. if we don't draft linemen now, we may as well forget about the season....period!!!

Posted by: charronegro1971 | April 4, 2010 9:51 PM | Report abuse

mcnabb is a definite upgrade over jason campbel, for sure. however, questions of desire, sportsmanship, and longevity/health are major factors at play here. what also worries me is that this is a deal for right now, not the future. and, you think mcnab will really have his heart in it all playing for the skins? f no, he didn't want to leave philly. this trade is just so odd.

Posted by: BMACattack | April 4, 2010 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Thanks scamp.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 4, 2010 9:51 PM | Report abuse

an't nobody ever tell me nothing again up this MoFo!!!!
Booked since day one Bamas!!!
Posted by: 4thFloor | April 4, 2010 8:50

All hail 4th. You be the man. I honestly never saw this coming. Truly, just shocked.

Posted by: will_ga | April 4, 2010 9:51 PM | Report abuse

nice, i like it.

can we trade our number 1 to the nfl network to get deion back?

soooo frustrating

Posted by: esauls4 | April 4, 2010 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Personally I would think NFL teams would say JC HAS to be traded now, so the Skins are desperate so we will offer less.

I see JC being traded for a #4 rd pick.
What do you guys think?

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | April 4, 2010 9:52 PM | Report abuse

I think this says that we have a trade partner for the 4th pick. Or trading Soups to Buff or Oakland.... I can't see picking at #4 and not having another pick until the 4th rd... Too many loose ends.. (i hope)

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | April 4, 2010 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Go F*ck yourself McNabb. I hope you break something the first game and retire.

Posted by: wdv1137 | April 4, 2010 9:06 PM |

Yea that would be great for the Skins. You ain't too bright are you?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 4, 2010 9:11 PM

scampbell you are a retard so don't even start. We just traded for a rival quarter back who i have hated for years. If you were a real fan and supported the players and not the jerseys you would understand. I hope he never plays a down for the skins because he is an eagle for life.

Posted by: wdv1137 | April 4, 2010 9:52 PM | Report abuse

We won't get much for JC unless the deal is already done but not announced yet.. who's going to give you anything for someone they know will probably be released..

Posted by: vpar57 | April 4, 2010 9:53 PM | Report abuse

A good example? This from the man whose two sons have been in jail, had drug problems, are lacking in discipline and backbone. Has he even seen how McNabb behaves when he's out carousing?

Posted by: farhorizons | April 4, 2010 9:53 PM | Report abuse

Are we sure Vinny has left the building? This is a horrible move. I'm sure a deal is already in place to over pay this bum.

The iggles are known for being a dumb organization. Do we really think they would have traded him within the division if they thought he had anything left? Absolutely not!

I guess they are paying us back for stealing Sonny J 50 years ago. Can't wait to hear the boos from the dirt balls McNabb will throw.

Posted by: dcwun | April 4, 2010 9:54 PM | Report abuse

@Chia:

Hyland's Teething Tablets

(local grocery store)

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 4, 2010 9:54 PM | Report abuse

Are we a better team than we were yesterday? YES

Is the quarterback we recently acquired better than the one we have now? YES

Donovan McNabb is a potential Hall of Fame QB who's 33 years old which is not all that old for a QB.

I cry no tears for Jason Campbell...this is the tough side of the business and he has too many question marks. NO ONE ELSE WOULD EVEN GIVE US A 3rd FOR HIM!

This takes a lot of pressure of the 4th pick. You can get your LT or trade back for more picks. More teams may now want to move up for Claussen, unless the Skins wanna pick him too if they are going to trade Campbell.

I only apprehension is the lack of picks. I hope we can acquire two to three more picks.

Hail!

Posted by: rickyroge | April 4, 2010 9:54 PM | Report abuse

mcnabb is one of the least accurate qb's in the league and now he's too beat up to run around, should work out great for us.

Posted by: divi3 | April 4, 2010 9:54 PM | Report abuse

Easter Bunny, Santa, arrow-whacked Valentine, Nationals, Joan-Don't-Smoke-BArk shame. One of our era's greatest QBs, McNabb does not deserve early interment. Ramsey and Campbell were good and could be great. Lousy owner (decisions too many to list, how about one) a consummate puddle for all time, Jeff 'Brush Your Yellow Tooth' George. A freebie, camel farce gate (how can you run with the money, but never run for the team?) DM, I admire you, respect you and wish you only the best. Don't do it! When Eagles lose versus Skins? Crazy happy. It never stopped me from admiring you. Enjoy your soup.

Posted by: xanthem | April 4, 2010 9:55 PM | Report abuse

POLL QUESTION:

McNabb said he would attempt to nix a trade to St. Louis or Oakland by not signing an extension if he was traded to one of those teams. Should the Redskins get McNabb to sign an extension, then trade him to St. Louis against his will for the #1 spot and draft Bradford?

Posted by: C-DubDC | April 4, 2010 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Just when the patient was getting better, he goes into a deep coma, gets diarrhea and dies.

What the #@$%!!!

Posted by: dkane3 | April 4, 2010 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Congrats, 4th.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 4, 2010 8:56 PM

Thank you. You won't be in my crosshairs tommorrow.....

But plenty will....

RedDMV thought I was putting a little too much on that Orakpo over Cushing deal.......Y'all gonna be wanting to ITA my a$$ now.....

This ONLY made sense on a million different levels....seriously.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 4, 2010 9:05 PM | Report abuse

4th, are you talking to yourself again?

Posted by: frediefritz | April 4, 2010 9:56 PM | Report abuse

The plot thickens. 4th was right but you what they say about broken clocks. :)Don't like giving up this year's 2nd given the Skins dearth of picks. And don't think Skins recoup that through trade of JC. Does this spell doom for Clausen pick? Stay tuned.

Watching UConn v. Baylor. Baylor's center is playing in the wrong tournament. That's all I'll say about that.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | April 4, 2010 9:56 PM | Report abuse

Don't assume if we extend McNabb that we don't trade JC or McNabb for picks to move up to take Bradford.

Posted by: Veretax | April 4, 2010 9:56 PM | Report abuse

My first reaction is oh crap!!! But hey if he gets us to a super bowl then good for us.

Posted by: bryjen48 | April 4, 2010 9:57 PM | Report abuse

Redskins Ray and clegg...

I think the Skins will do some heavy dealing on draft day. I can see us fleecing the Raiders for their 1st and 3rd.

McNabb is a better QB than Campbell...period and he still has some years left.

I want more picks though!

Posted by: rickyroge | April 4, 2010 9:57 PM | Report abuse

This is a great move for the Skins. In this league, a proven professional quarterback gives you instant credibility. Until today, the Skins did not have one on the roster. Remember the Skins trading for Brad Johnson, or the Saints signing a Drew Brees recovering from shoulder surgery? A lot of armchair GM's (myself included) thought both were bad deals. By next November, Philly will be last in the NFC East looking up at us.

Posted by: jaypem | April 4, 2010 9:57 PM | Report abuse

Hopefully the Skins can find the Raiders desperate.
ESPN News reporting Oakland is not happy abougt this and that McNabb shot down a deal to Oakland.

They just said Shanny first reached out to JC after the trade; they said it was classy.

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | April 4, 2010 9:57 PM | Report abuse

Sorry to all you haters, but the Redskins just got better.

Posted by: frankjomama | April 4, 2010 9:58 PM | Report abuse

LMAO!

Everytime something big happens people want to give away their seasons tickets they've been holding since Nixon was in office.

It's not that bad folks.


Just heard that Shanahan talked to Campbell.

Posted by: RedDMV | April 4, 2010 9:58 PM | Report abuse

Thank you dear Lord I finally had the guts to "let go" of my four Redskins tickets. This move would have had me in the funny farm. Took me 26 years to get 'em and it only took Danny Boy 10 years to destroy the franchise.

This isn't the McNabb who destroyed us in the past this is the fatty McNabb who can't run anymore and makes poor decisions because his arm isn't what it used to be. With this O-line he will get killed this year. Does anyone think the rookie Olineman no matter how much of a stud he is will save McNabb? No way. We were ready to build for the future, but now they are trading old football cards again. The Eagles are such a better franchise from their top down. They make solid decisions and learn from their mistakes and rarely overpay for their players. This is a classic move on their part. Get rid of the over the hill QB and use the 3 draft pics to rebuild their team when they wanted to play Kolb in the first place. Classic. Well played Andy Reid!

Between this move and the Champ and what 2 number 1's for Portis this is up there as one of the worst decisions in recent memory. All the good from the Ditka move is gone from the franchise for sure now.

Just because the Eagles and Steelers beat you like a drum over the years it doesn't mean that you go out and get their hasbeens to lead the Redskins. Willie Parker? Donovan McNabb? 5 years ago yes, but now? NO WAY!

I'm just glad I didn't send in my invoice!

HTTR..prior to Danny Boy!!!

Posted by: hog4life | April 4, 2010 9:58 PM | Report abuse

scampbell you are a retard so don't even start. We just traded for a rival quarter back who i have hated for years. If you were a real fan and supported the players and not the jerseys you would understand. I hope he never plays a down for the skins because he is an eagle for life.

Posted by: wdv1137 | April 4, 2010 9:52 PM |

Oh I'll start you backwoods Bubba. Fans root for the uniform AND back the players when they are here. I can't stand him either but that doesn't mean I'm going to hate the Skins for it. If the Skins lose you as a fan then they ain't losin' much. I wouldn't expect a reach around king such as yourself to understand.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 4, 2010 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Kill me now. This has Snyder written all over it. Big name, big splash, big stupid. An old qb with injury issues and declining skills. With Stephen Heyer protecting his blind side. What a great idea for building a winner!! And this isn't a FA signing. We gave up a 2nd and 3rd! Hello?!?! These picks have value. The draft doesn't end after the 32nd pick. They will never, ever learn.

Posted by: ElSith | April 4, 2010 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Yep, pebrooks.

McNabb's #'s for 2009 aren't much better then JC's.

I'm not sure what we can deduce from this, but it's safe to say McNabb had a stronger supporting cast in Philadelphia last year than JC had here in DC.

I dunno 'bout this at all.

but as RedDMV said, we haven't given up a ton to get McNabb, and once again, I'm surprised Reid gave him up for so little to a divisional rival.

This here is a little troubling, but McNabb is a waaaaaay more of a gamer than JC, despite last years raw #'s.

Overall, I think I like this move?

Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 4, 2010 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: divi3 | April 4, 2010 9:54 PM

Please stick to talking Wizards and hating on Brendan Haywood. You're much better at it. Other than T.O., name a decent receiver he's had during his career.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | April 4, 2010 9:59 PM | Report abuse

anyone who doesn't like this trade doesn't know football. They weren't going to get a better qb. If you think Campbell is good, wow, what have you been watching. I'm all for going young but you need veterans to show those young guts how to play. Rebuilding does not mean not fielding a competitive team.

And I hope most of you do sell your tickets because the last time I was in that stadium it was embarrasing. Half the fans there aren't even into the game anyways

Posted by: Patrok | April 4, 2010 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Hey, hey, we win the (off-season) Super Bowl again!

Every GM in the league salivates when they get a call from the Skins.

I wish McNabb well, but ya gotta wonder...

Posted by: brabinger | April 4, 2010 10:00 PM | Report abuse

Wdv1137,
That is a weird comment you support the players and not the team? I thought it was all about the burgandy and gold and what is best for the team. Who cares where someone use to play if they can help the Redskins win.

Posted by: lifelongfan | April 4, 2010 10:00 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: rickyroge | April 4, 2010 9:54

But his best days are long gone. Remember Deon, Bruce Smith, etc? Another year of wasting draft picks.

Posted by: dcwun | April 4, 2010 10:00 PM | Report abuse

I don't really get it.

To me, the plan seemed to be this:

Get OT and OT with their top 2 picks (#4 and #37). For example, draft Okung, trade #37 for Gaither (if he checked out). Or draft 2 OTs. Probably draft another OT and G.

You'd have Campbell, still young in QB years. Two young tackles and maybe a young guard.

Keep Ganther and lose Portis.

We'd have 20-something starters in most offensive positions. Several 25 years old or younger. The new OTs, the RB, the WRs (x-Moss) and Fred Davis. In the 26-30 group, Campbell and Cooley. Basically, a group that could develop together for the next 3-5 years.

Instead, we're looking at a 33 year old QB, 3 old RBs who all looked over the hill last year and one less high pick that can be used on an OT.

Shanahan deserves the benefit of the doubt, but this isn't making sense to me.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 4, 2010 10:00 PM | Report abuse

How hilarious would that be if we immediately traded him to Oakland for a 1st round pick????

Amazing.

Posted by: kidbrosweets | April 4, 2010 10:01 PM | Report abuse

Never thought of that...

What if we turn around and trade McNabb on draft day?

Posted by: rickyroge | April 4, 2010 10:01 PM | Report abuse

Hilarious, the inaccurate QB comments are already starting, how long until we just traded for another mouth breather?

Upgrade, yes. Wish JC the best, but it'd be interesting to see this play out in a competition. It's not as if JC doesn't already make #2 type money. This seems like the possible opening to a string of moves. Perhaps a deal already in place for JC and our #4 to a team scheduled to pick later in the 1st and their 2 or 3rd +5th?

Posted by: RomoLongballs | April 4, 2010 10:01 PM | Report abuse

I like it...

if Okung is there at 4..take him...or slide down to #6 since the Seahawks really covet him and pick up a #2 or #3 to replace ours...and pick up Baluga or Williams at #6 and another OL in round 2/3

if the Lions take Okung...then we're still sitting pretty with either Suh or McCoy as trade bait as there are plenty of teams who desire them.

I'm confident we'll trade Campbell and mor than likely out of the #4 spot to pick up extra picks..

just should all just wait until AFTER the draft to assess this trade.

Posted by: dchandl3 | April 4, 2010 10:02 PM | Report abuse

Looks like good teams trade FOR draft picks; then continue to develop young players and compete at a playoff level.

Skins trade AWAY draft picks to the good teams; they can continue to struggle to be .500 every season and compete with Oakland to be the azz end of everyone's jokes around the NFL.

HTTR...right???

Posted by: INIOWA | April 4, 2010 10:02 PM | Report abuse

Can I hope they trade down in the 1st round to gather extra picks now?

Posted by: mafafu | April 4, 2010 10:02 PM | Report abuse

My initial reaction is somewhat mixed. At first I thought possibly this is just a precursor to possibly trade with the Rams for their #1, but then and again, that doesn't seem feasible. I'm just going to have to trust Shanny and Allen on this one cause I'm not feeling it whatsoever.

Posted by: humen8r | April 4, 2010 10:03 PM | Report abuse

My initial reaction is somewhat mixed. At first I thought possibly this is just a precursor to possibly trade with the Rams for their #1, but then and again, that doesn't seem feasible. I'm just going to have to trust Shanny and Allen on this one cause I'm not feeling it whatsoever.

Posted by: humen8r | April 4, 2010 10:03 PM | Report abuse

dcwun...

How are McNabb's best days long gone. He's still one of the top QB's in the leagure and he's just coming off a playoff season.

If we'd have signed Delhomme, Leftwich...then I'd agree.

Posted by: rickyroge | April 4, 2010 10:04 PM | Report abuse

Okay... Tell me one more time... Why does this move make since again? Hold it...before you say anything...let me get another hit a Jack...

Posted by: pebrooks | April 4, 2010 10:04 PM | Report abuse

I hope Campbell ripps this team a new one... Note to other teams... THIS IS NOT HOW TO TREAT A QB who has been through thick and thin. A QB who played behind one of the worst offensive lines and still had decent numbers.

A Big F U right now to the front office. WTF happened to the offensive line we knew we needed two years ago? You're going to go and trade away a two pick for a QB who has become injury prone ? Really?

Posted by: franky4fingers | April 4, 2010 10:04 PM | Report abuse

Never thought of that...

What if we turn around and trade McNabb on draft day?

Posted by: rickyroge | April 4, 2010 10:01 PM

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I imagine McNabb would be miffed to go to Oakland under any circumstances, especially these.


Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 4, 2010 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan and Allen are calling the shots????? HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!! I'm sure $nyder is getting the printing presses out right now and is furiously printing up the No. 5 jerseys for all the suckers to buy. So much for building the O-line. McNabb is going to spend all of his time running for his life, and he can use most of that $11 million he's owed to plan his own funeral.

If Jesus Christ announced that for his second coming he would quarterback the Washington Redskins, they would have to call an end to Christianity. Because the beating that Jesus would take would be so severe that there's no way he would be able to rise from the dead.

I'm sorry, but this is an idiotic signing that is meant to do one thing and one thing only - sell jerseys.

Forget about Shanahan and Allen. That A-hole Putz $nyder is still calling the shots here and anyone who thinks otherwise is either deluded or on drugs.

Posted by: VeloStrummer | April 4, 2010 8:57 PM | Report abuse


GO AWAY! AND DON't COME BACK

Posted by: leevi98 | April 4, 2010 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Sal Paolantonio said this deal came together in 4 days. John Keim reported that JC did not know that this was occurring, unlike when Grossman was added. I can't see JC remaining a part of this team. The question now is what can the Skins get in return for JC,

Posted by: TWISI | April 4, 2010 10:07 PM | Report abuse

How hilarious would that be if we immediately traded him to Oakland for a 1st round pick????

Amazing.

Posted by: kidbrosweets | April 4, 2010 10:01 PM

That would be funny but it won't happen. When Gibbs came back he acquired Brunell who was declining rapidly. McNabb still has a lot left in his tank. Now what will really be funny is when we sign TO next week. LOL

Posted by: anacostia85 | April 4, 2010 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Well one positive is...we'll be able to beat philly twice a year... won't we?

Posted by: pebrooks | April 4, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse

Wouldn't be surprised if the Skins still try and get Bradford. Mcnabb's only got a year left on his contract so they might just want him to mentor a young quarterback. Probably will trade JC, Cooley, and the Number 4 pick to the Rams or something like that. Too bad Mcnabb's not going to last more than a couple of games behind this offensive line.
It'll be funny when they have a Native American on the Redskins.

Posted by: drumsjsp | April 4, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse

dcwun...

How are McNabb's best days long gone. He's still one of the top QB's in the leagure and he's just coming off a playoff season.

If we'd have signed Delhomme, Leftwich...then I'd agree.

Posted by: rickyroge

What are you using to say he's still one of the best in the league? His numbers were similar to JC's and his team was twice as talented. Watch the 2 games against the skins last year and you'll see ehat we are getting.

The worst part is we give up a very high second round pick. Its the same old thing.

Posted by: dcwun | April 4, 2010 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Question:
If JC still needs to sign his tender offer to be under contract, then what if JC does not sign?

Then don't we lose all leverage and then wouldn't we have to release him to get nothing?

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | April 4, 2010 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Now what will really be funny is when we sign TO next week. LOL

Posted by: anacostia85 | April 4, 2010 10:07 PM | Report abuse

That would be...awesome.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | April 4, 2010 10:11 PM | Report abuse

why is everyone so convinced that they won't draft a QB at four? Hell, from what we've seen in the past, they'll trade up and only take a QB in this year's draft. Surely, the whole problem was Campbell. Now we bring Donovan in, draft Clausen and have Donovan take us the to Super Bowl while mentoring Clausen to do it on his own in 2011. Who cares about an offensive line anyway? Drafting lineman is so overrated. It is so much better to get them 6 years into their career after they are broken.

Posted by: juicebom | April 4, 2010 10:11 PM | Report abuse

This is a shallow draft right.

Not sure how I feel about this, I mean McNabb is a better QB than Campbell, not much, he is terrible when it comes to accurate short passes. This should be interesting.

Posted by: alex35332 | April 4, 2010 10:11 PM | Report abuse

Oh I'll start you backwoods Bubba. Fans root for the uniform AND back the players when they are here. I can't stand him either but that doesn't mean I'm going to hate the Skins for it. If the Skins lose you as a fan then they ain't losin' much. I wouldn't expect a reach around king such as yourself to understand.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 4, 2010 9:59 PM

Scampbell,

I was expressing my displeasure for this abysmal move by the team. I am sorry that you got your feelings hurt and had to say something to me. Sometimes when someone keeps doing things that are not good then they have to hit rock bottom to really make a change. You will understand when little scotty is sucking c*ck for crack. So now McNabb and Scampbell can f*ck off.

Posted by: wdv1137 | April 4, 2010 10:13 PM | Report abuse

Drafting lineman is so overrated. It is so much better to get them 6 years into their career after they are broken.

Yep, they're a dime a dozen.

Vinny, is that you?

Posted by: SteveMG | April 4, 2010 10:13 PM | Report abuse

Maybe his 59% completion rate goes up with a "RUN FIRST" mentality???

They have to have something "up their sleeve" for more picks.. No way they pick 4th and then in the 4th.... One of those rb's trade bait?? ( late rd at best ) Does Soups end up in Oakland?

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | April 4, 2010 10:13 PM | Report abuse

why is shanahan orange? where's lelsie shepard?

Posted by: brycefine | April 4, 2010 10:14 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: p1funk | April 4, 2010 10:15 PM | Report abuse

dcwun...

The guy went to the playoffs for the last...7 or 8 years?

Why should Shanahan as a new coach have any allegiance to Jason Campbell?

Nothing personal against Campbell, but I'd give Shanahan the benefit of the doubt on this one.

Posted by: rickyroge | April 4, 2010 10:15 PM | Report abuse

Alex,
NO, NO, this is not a shallow draft.

In fact everything I have read says this is a "deep" draft. That is why for a month, I've been on here saying, we should trade down and pick up two extra picks, and rebuild this team.

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | April 4, 2010 10:15 PM | Report abuse

They have to have something "up their sleeve" for more picks..

Let's hope so.

I'm a big dope and even I know that McNabb cannot survive behind it.

McNabb is a upgrade over what they have at QB.

But no QB can survive behind this line.

It's a joke.

Posted by: SteveMG | April 4, 2010 10:16 PM | Report abuse

fwiw, since 2005, McNabb has a 4-4 record vs the Skins. He had 90+ rating in 3 of the 8 games. McNabb was 4-4 vs the jints and 3-7 vs dallas.

So he didn't come here because he's shown he can consistently beat the teams in the division. And he wasn't killing the Skins.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 4, 2010 10:16 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: p1funk | April 4, 2010 10:17 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: p1funk | April 4, 2010 10:19 PM | Report abuse

This doesn't add up. Gotta be more on the way. It's small upgrade at a position that ranks closer to 10 than 5 in our top 10 positions of need at VERY high cost.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | April 4, 2010 10:19 PM | Report abuse

McNabb excited to be coming to Redskins

Posted by: noonefromtampa | April 4, 2010 10:19 PM | Report abuse

excited beeps

Posted by: RomoLongballs | April 4, 2010 10:20 PM | Report abuse

3 running backs that are 30 years old....
trading away your second round pick for a guy who throws up in the huddle in the Super Bowl.....

I'm speechless.......

OVER THE HILL GANG Pt. 2!!! Like father, like son....

oy...

Posted by: natman19 | April 4, 2010 8:46 PM | Report abuse

I hope he gets a chance to throw up in the Superbowl for us!

Posted by: rbpalmer | April 4, 2010 10:21 PM | Report abuse

If Campbell has yet to sign his tender, what does this mean for him. What happens if he does not sign it now?

Posted by: alex35332 | April 4, 2010 10:22 PM | Report abuse

His recent injuries are a much wiser choice as an area of concern, but who knows how much letting him hand it off more than 10 percent of the time could protect him.

Posted by: SportzWiz | April 4, 2010 9:42 PM | Report abuse


That's a very good point. Reid hung him out to dry too many times with his pass happy offense. Maybe CP and LJ can help him stay healthier (presuming we bolster the O line of course).

Posted by: ExPatYankee | April 4, 2010 10:23 PM | Report abuse

allen and shanahan have lost their minds,mcnabb is a good qb but has alot of injuries the last several years and has streaks when he is throws passes low or to the ground. These idiots(or snyder) are assisting in destroying the future of this team by way of giving up draft picks(2nd round this year and 3-4 next year)are they crazy? this team needs OFFENSE LINEMEN YOUNG O-LINEMEN they will probably draft a QB in the 1st round. I am not sold on shanahans coaching he did NOT win many games his last 2years at denver,if they establish a powerful running game(not with the o-line they have currently)this could work because with the eagles mcnabb had to throw too much most games and they have given the eagles more draft picks to make their team stronger. this could also turn quickly into a disaster.

Posted by: wathu19 | April 4, 2010 10:25 PM | Report abuse

It's small upgrade at a position that ranks closer to 10 than 5 in our top 10 positions of need at VERY high cost.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | April 4, 2010 10:19 PM | Report abuse

A SMALL UPGRADE? You have got to be kidding.

Posted by: rbpalmer | April 4, 2010 10:25 PM | Report abuse

I take Mcnabb over Sloth..er..Clausen any day. Now, watch 'em draft em.


Posted by: duh2mag | April 4, 2010 10:25 PM | Report abuse

wdv1137, do you even understand how modern pro sports work?

Posted by: chrislarry | April 4, 2010 10:26 PM | Report abuse

Seriously, my first reaction was that this was an April Fool's Day joke, and then I realized that April Fool's Day was a couple days ago.

JReid, did you forget to post some news about Shallen having been fired and Vinny having been re-hired this morning?

Because if this is a Shallen move, then I'm going back into Redskins exile.

So while the Eagles stockpile draftpicks to reload their team for the next 10 years, we are going to go into training camp with Donovan McNabb, CLinton Portis, Larry Johnson and Willie Parker. A year from now our friggin roster is going to need to be replaced. I mean, are we rebuilding here?

Can someone tell Shallen that it's not 2006??

Posted by: p1funk | April 4, 2010 10:26 PM | Report abuse

If this was the only move the Redskins were making, I'd be worried, but I suspect there is much more to come. The Shanahans obviously came to the conclusion that JC is not a viable for their offense.

As for the draft, I would say that getting McNabb makes it more likely that the Skins will take a QB somewhere in the draft. McNabb plays this year and maybe signs again if all goes well. New QB gets to sit on the bench for a year or a few.

Posted by: acoberst1 | April 4, 2010 10:26 PM | Report abuse

think this says that we have a trade partner for the 4th pick. Or trading Soups to Buff or Oakland.... I can't see picking at #4 and not having another pick until the 4th rd... Too many loose ends.. (i hope)

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg

All chicken entrails point to T.O. signing on to be with DM...harharhar..

Posted by: frak | April 4, 2010 10:31 PM | Report abuse

Weird but I've suddenly become bored with the Washington Redskins. Seriously.

Posted by: Pepper5 | April 4, 2010 10:32 PM | Report abuse

Dan Snyder is a WICKED off-season dope peddler, ain't he?? Die with a smile on your face, right?? Who's a cynic..

Posted by: frak | April 4, 2010 10:34 PM | Report abuse

Jason Reid - we need to know who did this deal. If it was Shanny and Allen, I'm good with it. If we've returned to Snyder calling the shots, then he's just pulled the rug out from under his new management team along with all the hope we fans have had that the Skins were getting back on track.

Posted by: just-the-facts | April 4, 2010 10:34 PM | Report abuse

Not sure I there's marked improvement. JC had higher completion pct.


Season Team G QBRat Comp Att Pct Yds Y/G Y/A TD Int Rush Yds Y/G Avg TD Sack YdsL Fum FumL
2005-06 Philadelphia 9 85.0 211 357 59.1 2507 278.6 7.0 16 9 25 55 6.1 2.2 1 19 112 8 3
2006-07 Philadelphia 10 95.5 180 316 57.0 2647 264.7 8.4 18 6 32 212 21.2 6.6 3 21 140 3 2
2007-08 Philadelphia 14 89.9 291 473 61.5 3324 237.4 7.0 19 7 50 236 16.9 4.7 0 44 227 9 5
2008-09 Philadelphia 16 86.4 345 571 60.4 3916 244.8 6.9 23 11 39 147 9.2 3.8 2 23 149 7 5
2009-10 Philadelphia 14 92.9 267 443 60.3 3553 253.8 8.0 22 10 37 140 10.0 3.8 2 35 264 10 3


Versus -

Season Team G QBRat Comp Att Pct Yds Y/G Y/A TD Int Rush Yds Y/G Avg TD Sack YdsL Fum FumL
2006-07 Washington 7 76.5 110 207 53.1 1297 185.3 6.3 10 6 24 107 15.3 4.5 0 7 55 1 0
2007-08 Washington 13 77.6 250 417 60.0 2700 207.7 6.5 12 11 36 185 14.2 5.1 1 21 110 13 8
2008-09 Washington 16 84.3 315 506 62.3 3245 202.8 6.4 13 6 47 258 16.1 5.5 1 38 266 6 1
2009-10 Washington 16 86.4 327 507 64.5 3618 226.1 7.1 20 15 46 236 14.8 5.1 1 43 285 11 3

Posted by: dallendavis | April 4, 2010 10:34 PM | Report abuse

I'd rather have McNabb than Campbell or a gamble (Tebow or McCoy).

We still have the 4th pick and I imagine we'll packaging that with Campbell (SF, Buff) or Cooley (NE?) to move down and get two tackles.

And our team will be a Helluva lot better on opening day then it was last year.

It's hard to understand how a 2nd and conditional 4th/3rd for a pro bowl westcoast qb can be seen as anything other than a good thing. McNabb's a QB, not a RB or corner; he's not too old.

Posted by: brianearman | April 4, 2010 10:36 PM | Report abuse

I have to seriously question the football knowledge of people who argue that McNabb is terrible or is only a slight upgrade over JC. There are reasons to criticize this deal (McNabb only signed for one more season and, at his age, is only a stop-gap measure), but McNabb doesn't improve us SIGNIFICANTLY at QB isn't one of them. On balance, I like the move. One, he fills the QB need for the next few years and allows us to address the team's many other needs in the draft. Two, we were going to burn a high draft pick on a QB anyway; it might as well be on a proven commodity. Three, he will be totally jacked when we play Philly twice a year.

Posted by: rbpalmer | April 4, 2010 10:40 PM | Report abuse

wdv1137, do you even understand how modern pro sports work?

No, I guess not. I just thought you draft players from college and build through young talent. Apparently I was wrong. I guess in "modern pro sports" you trade picks for players that used to be good for teams that you hate. Then after they are not as good as expected you cut them and continue to pay their salaries for years to come. Is that how it works?

Posted by: wdv1137 | April 4, 2010 10:42 PM | Report abuse

Shocking. Unbelievable. Speechless.

McNabb is a player. Arguably the most underrated QB of the decade. He's been a guaranteed perennial playoff contender, and he's done it with minimal help year in, year out on offense.

It's a big gamble. But Shanahan didn't come here to preside over a rebuilding project. This is a move to win, and win now. If the Redskins can get a day one starter at OT in the draft, and if McNabb can stay healthy, I see this team going far.

I've said all along that there is talent on this roster. Shanahan knows it, and now he's betting the house on being right. One thing is for sure; this will be an exciting season for us.

Posted by: psps23 | April 4, 2010 10:44 PM | Report abuse

I like the player, and his command on the field.

But I don't like the price.!!!!!

Posted by: dashriprock | April 4, 2010 10:45 PM | Report abuse

Perception with McNabb is one thing, but do the numbers back it up? See above.

Cannot stand philly, so didn't watch much of McNabb....but looking at the numbers I posted above, not sure he'll be much of an upgrade.

It's gotta be more systems...The Shenanigans must think he'll be a better QB in their system.

Posted by: dallendavis | April 4, 2010 10:50 PM | Report abuse

Dumb move. Waste of a second and fourth round. Small up grade over JC for the lose of draft picks we sorely need. Boo.

Posted by: mussdd | April 4, 2010 10:50 PM | Report abuse

Donovan is a quality player, no question, and thank god that Clausen is off the table - but WTF happens if Orakpo is off the board at #4? No 2nd round pick? I guess it's Orakpo or Davis at #4 and prayers below that.

The upside is that .500 is within sight - success? Yah, right.

Posted by: fr3dmars | April 4, 2010 10:53 PM | Report abuse

More things change, more they stay the same. As long as lil Dan owns the team, we're doomed to mediocrity.

Everybody sing: Fail to the Redskins!

Posted by: Muireadach | April 4, 2010 10:58 PM | Report abuse

We'll see

Posted by: toons123 | April 4, 2010 11:04 PM | Report abuse

dallendavis,,,
Nice job on the stats. Thank You.

However, keep in mind that the majority of Campbell's throws were 15 yards or less.

Take a look at McNabb's numbers Vs Campbell in the + 20 yard rage. Thats were you see McNabb, not only outshines Campbell, but most players in the NFL.

Again thanks for posting the stats.

Go Skins !!!!!!

Posted by: dashriprock | April 4, 2010 11:10 PM | Report abuse

It's hard to understand how a 2nd and conditional 4th/3rd for a pro bowl westcoast qb can be seen as anything other than a good thing. McNabb's a QB, not a RB or corner; he's not too old.

Posted by: brianearman
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I hear ya Brian, but it wasn't just a 2nd, it was # 37 in a very deep draft, essentially a 1st.

Posted by: Oogalaboogala | April 4, 2010 11:29 PM | Report abuse

I don't see how anyone could actually claim Campbell is a better QB than McNabb

Posted by: graywolf323 | April 4, 2010 11:37 PM | Report abuse

Well I just hope what a couple of people have already wished for comes true, i.e. that we're successful at trading Campbell (and maybe 1-2 other players) for a reasonably good pick(s).

But I wouldn't mind seeing us also turn around and trade McNabb to the Raiders for a high pick(s).

Yecchh. I know McNabb is quite good, much better than JC. But I just HATE giving up that # 37.

Posted by: Oogalaboogala | April 4, 2010 11:37 PM | Report abuse

Waiter, I'll order the Donovan McNabb with a grain of salt.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | April 4, 2010 11:49 PM | Report abuse

I am not completely sure about this deal, but initial reaction is I like it. It makes the Skins better @ the QB position and makes the Eagles at the least an unknown if not worse.

For Skins fans to be completely and adamantly against this off the bat, just means you have not been watching division games for the past 10 years. When the Eagles were talking about trading McNabb I could not wait to get him out of the division. Die hard skins fan here, but he has been killing us for a decade (last year included). I am rolling with Shanny and Allen for now, its their show. Lets get it!

Posted by: scyoung2 | April 4, 2010 11:56 PM | Report abuse

Could this be some kind of plan to end up getting Bradford after all? The Rams may be willing to except the 4th overall and McNabb for the 1st overall pick a 3rd round pick and a player(Alex Barron/Adam Carriker). What about picking up another former NFC East rival in Flozell Adams to sure up that RT spot, and offer Levi Jones that 2 year deal he wants. That way you let those 2 guys compete for the starting RT spot, draft Okung thats if we dont get any offer's to trade down. How about Campbell to the Rams for a 4th round pick and Alex Barron? I still expect us to make a couple more moves either before the draft or on draft day, hopefully we will try to obtain some mid round draft picks.

Posted by: robbkels | April 5, 2010 12:01 AM | Report abuse

We just gave up the 37th pick in a very deep draft, deep especially in the position we need help at the most, the O line. I would have been much happier had we used the pick to get Gaither, who is 24 and a good starting LT. If McNabb can give us 5 years of quality play, and if Shanny can put together a good O line QUICKLY, I may be able to be happy with the trade, but only if it moves us up the NFC East food chain. That number 2 pick we gave up will probably end up being a very good NFL player for the next 10+ years. But if McNab can't produce significantly more points than JC because we don't give him a good line, or simply because of his declining skills, this trade will be a big time bust.

Posted by: kenboy1 | April 5, 2010 12:05 AM | Report abuse

Can we now put the Bradford Clausen talk to rest? DM will play until he's 40 hopefully in the Burgundy and Gold. Go McNabb!

Posted by: ElYeah | April 5, 2010 12:11 AM | Report abuse

This is a great move. The skins finally have a top tier qb! Anyone that is a Skins fan that thinks otherwise is just clueless. Mcnabb is only 33 years old and is proven. We don't have to take a chance on drafting an unproven qb and 4th pick of the draft will be OL. The skins can trade Campbell for another OL or another position of need. GREAT TRADE!

Posted by: liftedexx | April 5, 2010 12:20 AM | Report abuse

I love this move. A legit Pro Bowl QB who still has several years left. QB problem solved and we still have the forth pick for a tackle or trade down.

Kudos to the new FO. Past Regimes would have made this deal, but given away a first and third, then made McNabb the highest paid QB in the NFC.

Mark my words: The Eagles will regret this move.

Posted by: Jason10 | April 5, 2010 12:35 AM | Report abuse

If McNabb--with his history of injuries-- who will take his place??? Rex Grossman--yikes-and the idea that Rex Grossman IS GOING TO TRAIN NcNABB IS LAUGHABLE he has not done squat since he left the Bears and is a 3rd stringer at best. If the Redskins don't get the left tackle everybody thinks will help fix the O line problem then Mc Nabb will be injured and out of the game by the 5th game of the season. I don't think Grossman can LEAD the team to any wins. Grossman has MORE interceptions per average than JC. This trade is a joke UNLESS the skins get 3or 4 offensive lineman or else McNabb will take the same physical beating JC has taken the lasr 3 years AND especially LAST year. If they can get a 2nd round pick for JC fine--I doubt it or even a three which I also doubt. Hey all you people screaming for Colt Brennan who are you going to scream for now--Rex Grossman or Clausen (if the skins pick him at any slot)got any ideas. This trade is a joke and the skins SHOULD HAVE McNABB TRAIN JC NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND> What a joke. GM Allen better stick with administration and NOT stick his fingers in trade or any player personnel issues. I hope son of Shanny (my Fanny)know what he is doing--it is to easrly to tell but based on this deal ths team HAS MILES AND MILES to go and McNabb won't be there by the end of this season. He will be on injured reserve or be 2nd string.

Posted by: vergens2 | April 5, 2010 2:08 AM | Report abuse

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