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Next time he'll slide

On third and four from Washington's 22-yard line late in the fourth quarter Sunday, quarterback Donovan McNabb scrambled around right end and gained 18 yards. The Redskins led, 17-12, and the play helped them extend the drive as they tried to run out the clock at Lincoln Financial Field.

Only one problem: McNabb ran out of bounds instead of sliding, stopping the clock. Obviously, that was not the correct move, Coach Mike Shanahan said Monday.

"That's what we call our four minute offense," Shanahan said. "And any time you have the ball and you're on four minutes, you'd like to stay in bounds. I think Donovan was very aware of that after he went out.

"I think he was trying to avoid that hit. If he had to do it over again, he would have slid there. If he would have, they would have got the ball back with 31 seconds instead of over a minute."

By Jason Reid  | October 4, 2010; 5:56 PM ET
Categories:  Donovan McNabb  
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I like it when my poo's just slide out of me.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 4, 2010 6:00 PM | Report abuse

This is an instance in which it would have been better to have JC17 at QB. Not only would he have slid, he would have burned up an additional 8 seconds of clock getting his body into the proper position to slide.

Posted by: freakzilla | October 4, 2010 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Rookie mistake...errr, ummm, never mind.

Posted by: p1funk | October 4, 2010 6:05 PM | Report abuse


Next time he'll slide

By Jason Reid | October 4, 2010; 5:56 PM ET

I thought this was going to be about Michael Vick.

Posted by: beep-beep | October 4, 2010 6:07 PM | Report abuse

This is an instance in which it would have been better to have JC17 at QB. Not only would he have slid, he would have burned up an additional 8 seconds of clock getting his body into the proper position to slide.

Posted by: freakzilla | October 4, 2010 6:03 PM | Report abuse


Except he'd have slid short of the first down marker.

Posted by: p1funk | October 4, 2010 6:07 PM | Report abuse

This is an instance in which it would have been better to have JC17 at QB. Not only would he have slid, he would have burned up an additional 8 seconds of clock getting his body into the proper position to slide.

Posted by: freakzilla | October 4, 2010 6:03 PM | Report abuse


Except he'd have slid short of the first down marker.

Posted by: p1funk | October 4, 2010 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Did I mention he'd have slid short of the first down marker?

Oh...my bad. Moveable Type and all...

Posted by: p1funk | October 4, 2010 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Remember when Mcdaniels chose the trade package for Kyle Orton over Jason Campbell?

There's a coach who knows his QBs...

Posted by: p1funk | October 4, 2010 6:01 PM | Report abuse

Interestingly he's also the coach getting a bunch of flack for trading away Peyton Hillis whom he never really used last year despite having a crappy running game - then and now. Hillis apparently wasn't one of his "guys" - sounds similiar to the Devin Thomas thing going on with the skins.

Posted by: skinswest | October 4, 2010 6:06 PM

Posted by: skinswest | October 4, 2010 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: skinswest | October 4, 2010 6:11 PM | Report abuse


Like I said, he knows his QBs.

Running backs? Not so much...

Posted by: p1funk | October 4, 2010 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Hillis apparently wasn't one of his "guys" - sounds similiar to the Devin Thomas thing going on with the skins.

Posted by: skinswest | October 4, 2010 6:06 PM

Big difference. Hillis can play in the NFL. Devin Thomas can't.

Posted by: beep-beep | October 4, 2010 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Not the first time we've stopped the clock and gave the other guys more time than we should have. Could have run the ball vs dallas inside 2 minutes instead of throwing an inc on 3rd down. Or McNabb could have run for a few years instead of throwing it. Would have forced dallas to take a timeout.

But hey, you don't need to be perfect to win, just make sure the others guys don't score on that last play.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | October 4, 2010 6:20 PM | Report abuse

RI: Report: Redskins shopping WR Devin Thomas

Otay, lessee now. Boy Brandon is tearing it up in Den, averaging over 100 yds receiving a game. And how about that TD pass that ARE snared in the Steeler game (no, they ruled he was down at the 1 yd line - booth review!). So is DT the next Skins WR flop to go somewhere else and shine? Probably not. Why? Because the other two aren't tards.

Posted by: ElDrano | October 4, 2010 6:20 PM | Report abuse

Not the first time we've stopped the clock and gave the other guys more time than we should have. Could have run the ball vs dallas inside 2 minutes instead of throwing an inc on 3rd down. Or McNabb could have run for a few years instead of throwing it. Would have forced dallas to take a timeout.

But hey, you don't need to be perfect to win, just make sure the others guys don't score on that last play.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | October 4, 2010 6:21 PM | Report abuse

*sigh* Well, since I'm in cynic mode, might I ask, did McNabb feel sorry for his former teammates on that interception?? The pass went STRAIGHT to that Eagle defender, no Skin was even close...What the hail y'all drinkin' at half-time that makes 'yall play so pathetic in the second?? Do you have to go 8-19 for 120 yds in games that we actually win?? Did you take your Activia?? If you want to wear beatnik-hippie glasses, why not try Ozzy-style rims in psychedelic colors?? Can Clinton Portis walk in a straight line?? Does London Fletcher still have a thing for long haired blonde Packers?? Do players really become friendlier when they wear pink?? **cue "Days Of Our Lives" theme music**

Posted by: frak | October 4, 2010 6:22 PM | Report abuse

The people who are sucking Brandon Lloyds c0ck are hilarious. Where was all of your alls blusterous talk last year, or 2 years ago, or 3 years ago?

But hey, Lloyd is just happy some clowns on here remember his name and are willing to slobber all over his balls.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 4, 2010 6:24 PM | Report abuse

oh moveable type, how you F me!!!

Posted by: zcezcest1 | October 4, 2010 6:27 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 4, 2010 6:24 PM |

Dude - the better question to ask is where is all the crow that RI dudes like you should be scarfing for being on record as saying BL was a POS.

Posted by: ElDrano | October 4, 2010 6:31 PM | Report abuse

2 interesting FF games tonight for the RI leagues, both in the Peeps league. Redcoat trails Alex by 44 points, but has Brady, Brandon Marshall and BenJarvis Green-Ellis going for him. Huge comeback?

I'm trailing South Hill Skulls by 17, with Ronnie Brown and Fins kicker Dan Carpenter going for me. Skulls has got the Fins defense going for him.

Both games have real nailbiter potential.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | October 4, 2010 6:32 PM | Report abuse

Get back to us when B-Lloyd puts up solid numbers for the rest of this season, next year, and a few years after that.

He's done it in what, 4 games? Again, where was your Lloyd-c0ck-sucking last year, or 2 years ago, or 3 years ago?

Lloyd likes it though since he says u do a good job gargling his man-sauce in your mouth.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 4, 2010 6:37 PM | Report abuse

RI: Report: Redskins shopping WR Devin Thomas

Otay, lessee now. Boy Brandon is tearing it up in Den, averaging over 100 yds receiving a game. And how about that TD pass that ARE snared in the Steeler game (no, they ruled he was down at the 1 yd line - booth review!). So is DT the next Skins WR flop to go somewhere else and shine? Probably not. Why? Because the other two aren't tards.

Posted by: ElDrano | October 4, 2010 6:20 PM |


3 weeks don't make up for the previous 4 years he's been a zero in the NFL.

Otherwise, Shaun Hill, Darren McFadden, Braylon Edwards and Roy Williams should be getting way more pub.

Oh wait, they are.

Lloyd is still a doosh, he's had a couple good weeks. Dude, I promise you that you weren't rining your BL bell until last week. Shut your piehole you gravy-trainer.

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | October 4, 2010 6:39 PM | Report abuse

It would be wise to show other teams how good your players are if you are planning to trade and receive something of value. It's like if i put an ad in the paper " Good used car", very low mileage, very seldom driven, used it to go to the mailbox at the end of the driveway, make offer. In reality because I haven't driven the car, the gas is stagnant,the oil has turned into sludge, the tires are rotten & the engine keeps shutting down, etc

Posted by: kingpenn1 | October 4, 2010 6:43 PM | Report abuse

Maybe we can trade Thomas for Brandon Lloyd, since Lloyd is well on his way to being in the Hall of Fame.

Lloyd is the best receiver in the NFL, bar none.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 4, 2010 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Thomas has trouble learning routes, but he has the talent to perform at a high level once he does. How do I know this -- his father said so during the OTAs.

I gather the Skins coaches have yet to see his knowledge of the offense displayed during practice. However, I still hope they keep him around, since he has some value as a kick returner. Of course the coaches will not put him on the field if they're not confident he'll be in the correct position when the QB throws the ball to the spot he should be at...

Of course the question is does Brandon Banks have even more potential as both a returner and WR? Perhaps the Skins a greater need for help at another position (say NT, CB, or RB); given the emergence of Anthony Armstrong as a viable #3 WR.

Posted by: siris | October 4, 2010 6:55 PM | Report abuse

I dont buy all this crap about DT not being able to learn routes. Shanny&Son dont like him for some reason, and that's why he doesnt play. There's no way he simply hasnt learned enough plays to be on the field, it's absurd that Galloway and Roydell are running around out there doing NOTHING while this horse is tied to the bench.

He probably farted while Shanny was talking or something, and now The Ego wont play him.

Come on. We NEED a wideout of his size/speed out there running routes. Get him 10 plays on offense this week and see what happens- cant be worse than the nothing currently on display

Posted by: divi3 | October 4, 2010 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | October 4, 2010 6:39 PM |

Dude - I wasn't posting here when BL was in DC. But you and the other butt holes are missing the point - which is that the dude gets a different QB and HC and all of a sudden he becomes a world-beater. Riddle me that you mofo.

Posted by: ElDrano | October 4, 2010 7:01 PM | Report abuse

This is an instance in which it would have been better to have JC17 at QB. Not only would he have slid, he would have burned up an additional 8 seconds of clock getting his body into the proper position to slide.

Posted by: freakzilla | October 4, 2010 6:03 PM | Report abuse

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Folks have already responded to how stupid this post is........but I'm gonna pile on!!

If you can honestly post one positive thing about Jcam after watchin EVERY game in his pro career, then you know zero about pro football! He was a college QB!!

The real reason I'm angry about it is the fact The Raiders figured this out in less than 2 games!!!!!!

At least we got a pick for that F$#kin B.U.M.!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: skins91r | October 4, 2010 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Re: Brandon Lloyd

WTH? He sucked when he was here. SUCKED. We should have cut him. He sucked for 3 years after we cut him. Stop slobbering on him. The Skins did the right thing to dump him.

Seriously.

Posted by: p1funk | October 4, 2010 7:08 PM | Report abuse

Clarification re DT:

I don't need to see him get on the field. If Shanny wants him on the bench... good enough for me.

I don't want him traded for a ham sandwich.

I like his return game.

If he is traded, so be it. If he gets some PT at WR, so be it. If somebody else takes his KR job and he is traded or cut, so be it.

Basically, I dont care what happens to him.

It would be nice if a 2nd rd draft pick could find some way to overcome whatever shortcoming is keeping him relegated to 5th on the depth chart. At his point, its becoming more and more unlikely that will occur for him with the Redskins.

Lazy and/or stupid is hearsay. Its also pretty much the only thing that makes sense at this juncture.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | October 4, 2010 7:10 PM | Report abuse

I dont buy all this crap about DT not being able to learn routes. Shanny&Son dont like him for some reason, and that's why he doesnt play. There's no way he simply hasnt learned enough plays to be on the field, ...

Posted by: divi3 | October 4, 2010 7:01 PM |

A couple of points.

1. Dude had to go JUCO because he was too tard to achieve min NCAA test score.

2. To be a receiver in the NFL you have to be able to do more than follow simple route instructions. You have to be able to make adjustments, which means you have to be able to mentally process on field activity and respond accordingly.

Posted by: ElDrano | October 4, 2010 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: p1funk | October 4, 2010 7:08 PM |

Hey pal if you was Randy Moss and JC was your QB you would have sucked pond scum just like all the other WRs.

Posted by: ElDrano | October 4, 2010 7:18 PM | Report abuse

If Brandon Lloyd is your argument for keeping Devin Thomas you don't have an argument.

Posted by: mack1 | October 4, 2010 7:21 PM | Report abuse

"Next time he'll slide?" What an asinine post.

Posted by: Pepper5 | October 4, 2010 7:21 PM | Report abuse

But Brandon Lloyd is the best receiver ever. Better than Jerry Rices, that's for darn sure!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 4, 2010 7:22 PM | Report abuse


Lazy and/or stupid is hearsay. Its also pretty much the only thing that makes sense at this juncture.

my god, it's as if peeps can't believe a 2nd rounder could be a bust. he's this, he's that, he's this.

DT11 = HE'S NOT PLAYING WR RIGHT NOW !!!

the dude needs to be ready when the curtain calls, he'll get his chance. this is just more wapo crap.

Posted by: hessone | October 4, 2010 7:23 PM | Report abuse

Maybe we can just sign El Drano as our next, big-time, go-to receiver!!!!!!

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 4, 2010 7:24 PM | Report abuse

A couple of points.

1. Dude had to go JUCO because he was too tard to achieve min NCAA test score.

2. To be a receiver in the NFL you have to be able to do more than follow simple route instructions. You have to be able to make adjustments, which means you have to be able to mentally process on field activity and respond accordingly.

Posted by: ElDrano | October 4, 2010 7:15 PM | Report abuse

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Thanks for a common sense post concerning DT finally. Shanahan has inherited a team with monster holes in it and folks are questioning his judgement!!?? The posts I've been reading would be more appropriate if this staff was in say.. year 3. I have to believe that Shanahan just MIGHT know something about weather or not a player should be on the field.

Posted by: skins91r | October 4, 2010 7:27 PM | Report abuse

You all know what really sucks?

When you get a cut on the index finger of your "wiping" hand. Either gotta switch it up to the other hand or go for the wipe, minus using the index finger.

Neither of which makes for a fun option.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 4, 2010 7:29 PM | Report abuse


clinton always thinks the skins are running the 4 minute offense and he needs to slide in bounds, bean says he's protecting the ball, pee wee coach's says run till your tackled, shanahan says he'll slide next time

Posted by: hessone | October 4, 2010 7:33 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: mack1 | October 4, 2010 7:21 PM |

If you read my original post, I pointed out that while Skins castoffs BL and ARE are doing pretty well for themselves, that shouldn't be something that the Skins would have to worry about with DT since the dude is too tard to be able to succeed anywhere else.

Posted by: ElDrano | October 4, 2010 7:33 PM | Report abuse

ElDrano and skins91r: You're both idiots.

Three of the best NFL receivers over the last 10 years went to JuCos.

Steve Smith (Panthers)
Chad Ochocinco
Terrell Owens

Are they too retarded to make plays? Stop being jackasses.

Posted by: elfreako | October 4, 2010 7:35 PM | Report abuse

hessone

why do you cut and paste the last line of my statement and then restate what i said in the entire rest of my post?

Prolly because you are too stupid or lazy to learn how to perform.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | October 4, 2010 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Folks have already responded to how stupid this post is........but I'm gonna pile on!!

If you can honestly post one positive thing about Jcam after watchin EVERY game in his pro career, then you know zero about pro football! He was a college QB!!

Posted by: skins91r | October 4, 2010 7:06 PM


The thing about obvious sarcasm is, it's never truly ubiquitously obvious. As demonstrated here.

Posted by: freakzilla | October 4, 2010 7:38 PM | Report abuse


Prolly because you are too stupid or lazy to learn how to perform.

stupid is a state of mind

Posted by: hessone | October 4, 2010 7:39 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: elfreako | October 4, 2010 7:35 PM |

But dude, they didn't pass on taking the Wonderlick test.

Posted by: ElDrano | October 4, 2010 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Who cares about the Wonderlick? Who cares how much a guy benches or how high his vertical is?

Just make plays.

Posted by: elfreako | October 4, 2010 7:46 PM | Report abuse


Wonderlic

NFL Notable High Scores:

Drew Henson 42
Alex Smith 40
Eli Manning 39
Brian Griese 39
Tony Romo 37
Drew Bledsoe 36
Matt Leinart 35
Kellen Clemens 35
Tom Brady 33
Steve Young 33
John Beck 30
Philip Rivers 30
Troy Aikman 29
Brady Quinn 29
Drew Brees 28
Peyton Manning 28
Ryan Leaf 27
Ben Roethlisberger 25
Brett Favre 22


Notable Low Scores:
Tarvaris Jackson 19
Derek Anderson 19
Vince Young 16*
Dan Marino 15
Terry Bradshaw 15
Donovan McNabb 14
David Garrard 14
Kordell Stewart 13
Marcus Vick 11
Jeff George 10
Chris Leak 8**

25 is the average score for quarterbacks and offensive linemen. Other positions average about a 20. A generic breakdown of the scoring looks like this:

50 = highest possible score, superior intelligence
30 = Very bright, you're shouldn't be living at home
20 = average intelligence (similar to IQ of 100)
15 = Equivalent to unskilled worker
10 and Below = Mental retardation


* VYoung apparently scored a 6 on his first test, and he took the test a second time scoring a 16.
** Leak apparently decided to only answer 12 of 50 questions. Got 8 out of 12 right, but alas, 8 is his score.

Posted by: hessone | October 4, 2010 7:51 PM | Report abuse

ElDrano and skins91r: You're both idiots.

Three of the best NFL receivers over the last 10 years went to JuCos.

Steve Smith (Panthers)
Chad Ochocinco
Terrell Owens

Are they too retarded to make plays? Stop being jackasses.

Posted by: elfreako | October 4, 2010 7:35 PM | Report abuse

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Nice post moron! The guys you mentioned actually performed in one game after the next!!! They didn't just have on good game and then sucked a$$ for the next 5!!! I'm sure in all your wisdom that you are a better talent evaluator than either Shanahan combined... And you call me a jackass!!?? LMFAO

Posted by: skins91r | October 4, 2010 7:52 PM | Report abuse

I'd prefer devin was playing too, but part of trusting the shanahan regime is actually trusting it. Snyderatto would have him playing but they're no longer meddling. Be thankful.

Posted by: AdamCr | October 4, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

rhaps the Skins a greater need for help at another position (say NT, CB, or RB); given the emergence of Anthony Armstrong as a viable #3 WR.

Posted by: siris |

Armstrong has shown skills (mostly go-routes, but he can catch like an epileptic losing his Teddy Bear), but I want to see DT11 in the SAME go-routes, get him in space, the boy can fly..

Posted by: frak | October 4, 2010 8:01 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: hessone | October 4, 2010 7:51 PM |

Dude - thanks for your post about the Wonderlic test. I was referring to the Wonderlick test administered by scampbell1975 and Poopy_McPoop. In that test one of them licks the dude's taint and then wonders - "Can he make it in the NFL?" and writes down a number between 1 and 50 to reflect that assessment.

Posted by: ElDrano | October 4, 2010 8:05 PM | Report abuse

"25 is the average score for quarterbacks and offensive linemen."

Posted by Hessone

So you are saying that the conventionally white positions are the ones that score high on a test designed to measure intelligence. Okay whitey, whatever.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | October 4, 2010 8:06 PM | Report abuse

Dude - I wasn't posting here when BL was in DC. But you and the other butt holes are missing the point - which is that the dude gets a different QB and HC and all of a sudden he becomes a world-beater. Riddle me that you mofo.

Posted by: ElDrano | October 4, 2010 7:01 PM

Not this phukin jack ass again. Get the phuk outta here with that garbage. Dude is on at least his 4th team in 8 years and finally puts a few games together and now he's the next Jerry Rice? Let me explain something to you, when the only reason you show up on a blog is to suck Brandon Lloyd's c0ck then you are the laughing stock of said blog. He's a d0uche, you're a d0uche, and you 2 belong together. Maybe he can make a horrible rap song about how sweet he thinks your fudge tunnel is.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 4, 2010 8:07 PM | Report abuse

When I was seventeen
I drank some very good beer
I drank some very good beer I purchased with a fake ID
My name was Brian McGee
I stayed up listening to Queen
When I was seventeen.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 4, 2010 8:13 PM | Report abuse

I'm telling you all, El Drano has gotta be Lloyd's personal ball-sucker.

Who else even remembers that clown?

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 4, 2010 8:16 PM | Report abuse

As for this DT11 being shopped stuff, we did the same thing with ol' fatty and it seems that in some way it inspired him to improve.

I don't know whether or not the fact that AH was shopped actually significantly contributed to his recent improved play, but if it did make the difference we might as well try it on DT11 cuz we ain't got much to lose with Thomas really. The stated reason by coaches for Thomas's under-performance is lousy lousy preparation...maybe a trade scare could work. At any rate, if we get a fourth rounder for him, I think we would be doing well.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | October 4, 2010 8:20 PM | Report abuse

I'm telling you all, El Drano has gotta be Lloyd's personal ball-sucker.

Who else even remembers that clown?

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 4, 2010 8:16 PM

The dude is a laughing stock. It's probably Brandon Lloyd himself.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 4, 2010 8:22 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps the Skins a greater need for help at another position (say NT, CB, or RB); given the emergence of Anthony Armstrong as a viable #3 WR.

Posted by: siris | October 4, 2010 6:55 PM |

The question is whether or not Armstrong is a spaz. He couldn't hold on to that pass in the end zone in the Dallas game and he couldn't keep himself inbounds in the Eagles game.

Posted by: ElDrano | October 4, 2010 8:23 PM | Report abuse

We're taking the dolphins over the pats tonite.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | October 4, 2010 8:23 PM | Report abuse

As far as Lloyd goes, good for him, but it's not the Redskins that are to blame for not getting this production in DC.

The culpability for his failure in DC lies almost entirely with him (Lloyd). He always had the talent, nobody ever questioned that.

What he lacked was the "Want to" after getting 10 mil plus of "Snyder Money".

When he was in DC he was more interested in cutting albums than running routes and studying his playbook.

Again, glad he figured it out, but F him.

I live in Colorado and it rips my heart out to have to watch this guy lob up 10 catches and 13 yards every week.

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | October 4, 2010 8:25 PM | Report abuse

I have a problem when people assume a JuCo kid isn't intelligent skins91r.

So I gotta check any blanket statement that bolsters that notion. Like the one you ignorantlty co-signed at 7:27pm.

You may not be a jackass so I'm willing to retract that comment.

Posted by: elfreako | October 4, 2010 8:26 PM | Report abuse

The question is whether or not Armstrong is a spaz. He couldn't hold on to that pass in the end zone in the Dallas game and he couldn't keep himself inbounds in the Eagles game.

Posted by: ElDrano | October 4, 2010 8:23 PM
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But rapper/receiver Brandon Lloyd would've, right?

What a d0uche

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 4, 2010 8:27 PM | Report abuse

Multiple McP and 75 attacks. Guess I hit a nerve. Not quite the same as DMV taking the bait though. How are chings in MistaMoe land? Anyway, chibs, I have to split. Cheers and all that.

Posted by: ElDrano | October 4, 2010 8:34 PM | Report abuse

"As for this DT11 being shopped stuff,.."

There's no market for unproven wideouts like DT11.

Who is going to make a trade to acquire a guy they could snag off some other team's practice squad for nothing?

Too, given the strong receiving group bound to be next year's draft, a team with long term needs will wait, and a team with play off aspirations will shrug its shoulders.

If we couldn't move AH, why do you think we can move DT?

The best thing that could happen is for Shanny to put Thomas11 on the field, and feed him the ball.

He can't practice better than JGalloway or RWilliams.

But he might play better than either guy.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | October 4, 2010 8:35 PM | Report abuse


So you are saying that the conventionally white positions are the ones that score high on a test designed to measure intelligence. Okay whitey, whatever.

I didn't say it, the test results are fact and DT11 didn't take the test. I could care less what the scores are and I could care less about your dive ass

Posted by: hessone | October 4, 2010 8:37 PM | Report abuse

49ers traded Lloyd to the skins in exchange for a 3rd RD pick in the 2006 NFL Draft and a 4th RD in the 2007 NFL Draft. His first season is widely considered a failure, as he caught 23 passes for no touchdowns.

According to Howard Bryant of the Washington Post, citing NFL.com, "Lloyd suffered through the worst season for a starting receiver in the Super Bowl era... No starting No. 2 wide receiver in the NFL started more games (12) while producing less (23 catches, 365 yards)." What's so funny is that DT had 10 starts last year, played in 14 games and had 25 catches, 325 yards.

I know his name is brought up because he's off to a fast start and good for him. I don't care what a player does once they've left, If they don't do it here then F them.

So F B. Lloyd

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 4, 2010 8:40 PM | Report abuse

Yesterday's game isnt the one to critize Heyer about

Did Heyer make balloon animals at your son's birthday party?

Look, regardless who it is anytime you get THREE penalties, one taking a potential TD off the board, the other coming in with less than 4 minutes to go in a 17-12 game, you're a target for criticism. That's just the way it is. And for all the "outstanding" blocking you all like to cite, I find it rather convenient that you leave out the face that he received help all day yesterday. Sure Heyer had his moments, but lets not go making this "The game he arrived".


Dude, seriously? We were 4-12 last year, we've been there since 1999.

What the hell does that have to do with Heyer and his performance yesterday? I said this team is anywhere from a 6 to 9 win team, so what the fhuck does 2009 or 1999 have to do with it?

And I love this "we were 4-12 last year, so lets climb in the hammock and sip some kool-aid and be happy" loser talk. What the fhuck does that have to do with yesterday or the current season?!?!?! Look, last year is LAST YEAR. Just because someone played badly in a win you aren't suppose to be critical of their performance?


Wow, are motherfhuckers that starved they'll just lose all rationality and drastically lower expectations? Its like: 'Um, uhh-uhh, we were 4-12 last year, so if someone and goes out and stinks it up, but we win, uhh-uhh, it's okay and they should not be criticized because we won and we were, uhh-uhh 4-12 last year'

uhhh-uhhh -- LOSER TALK!

Posted by: RedDMV | October 4, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse
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Yeah its loser talk, which is what we've been since 1999, the last year we won the division. It has everything to do with expectations of this organization. We won the game and Heyer played decent. Yeah, you can be critical of him but everyone is going overboard and acting like he's gonna be there for the entire year. The less the guy is in the better. There's no need to be a dick when trying to make a point, it makes you sound ignorant. Get off the Kool-Aid line, you say it way too much.

Posted by: AnthonyMix | October 4, 2010 8:41 PM | Report abuse

Dan Marino 15


This is why I didn't get on Jeopardy. It was a cold day, wore my Isotoners to the audition. Dumbed me right up.

Posted by: freakzilla | October 4, 2010 8:44 PM | Report abuse

Multiple McP and 75 attacks. Guess I hit a nerve. Not quite the same as DMV taking the bait though. How are chings in MistaMoe land? Anyway, chibs, I have to split. Cheers and all that.

Posted by: ElDrano | October 4, 2010 8:34 PM |

Good, take your pole smokin' ass somewhere else until you can adequately form something that resembles a sane comment. I'm sure Brandon is all ready for your lip service.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 4, 2010 8:45 PM | Report abuse

This is why I didn't get on Jeopardy. It was a cold day, wore my Isotoners to the audition. Dumbed me right up.

Posted by: freakzilla | October 4, 2010 8:44 PM

If they liked your personality they would have fed you a few answers, kept you around a while, and had some fun with you.

Posted by: beep-beep | October 4, 2010 8:47 PM | Report abuse

"How are chings in MistaMoe land?"

Mistamoe is a d-bag.

Please don't even bring him up in conversation.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | October 4, 2010 8:49 PM | Report abuse


monkeymayonaise = jeff george is a brotha, and so is dan marino, as well as terry bradshaw.

as for you, grow some thick black skin

later baiter

Posted by: hessone | October 4, 2010 8:49 PM | Report abuse

All this hate on the blog after a Redskins win? Wonder what it will be like if they lose again?

Posted by: beep-beep | October 4, 2010 8:54 PM | Report abuse

Chad Henne is soooo gooood.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | October 4, 2010 8:55 PM | Report abuse


which came first, mistamoe or gimmesummoe

do you moe ?

Posted by: hessone | October 4, 2010 8:55 PM | Report abuse

Chad Henne is soooo gooood.

And the Hawaii luvin' "Cult O Colt" folks forget that Devone Bess is the true pro.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | October 4, 2010 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Suck it Trebek..

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 4, 2010 8:58 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: frak | October 4, 2010 8:59 PM | Report abuse

Sean Connery: It looks like this is my lucky day! I'll take "The Rapists" for $200.

Alex Trebek: That's "Therapists." That's "Therapists," not "The Rapists

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 4, 2010 9:01 PM | Report abuse

hessone

"..which came first, mistamoe or gimmesummoe.."


How dare you suggest I'm posting under multiple screennames!!!

(Okay--I am.)

Like with Dr Jekyl and Mr. Hyde, the calm, normal guy came first.

Thing is, I've yet to figure out who that is between mistamoe and gimmiesummoe as in this blog, they are both two true monstahs.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | October 4, 2010 9:02 PM | Report abuse

What a boatload of anger up here this evening. We won yesterday, folks. Is it just that it's Monday? Are your coworkers in danger?

Posted by: NYPDee | October 4, 2010 9:02 PM | Report abuse


All this hate on the blog after a Redskins win? Wonder what it will be like if they lose again?

sorry beep, put up wonderlic test results and now I'm a racist. get sick and tired of the race baitin crowd. your right though, gotta move on.

the skins are in first place, but it doesn't seem to me they're playing like a first place team. seems to me if the lion's only lose to GB by 2, we should be able to play GB tough and win at home.


Posted by: hessone | October 4, 2010 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Suck it Trebek..

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 4, 2010 8:58 PM

Sounds like another would-be Jeopardist who couldn't make it past the auditions. "Alex, I'd like nursery rhymes for 50, please."

Posted by: beep-beep | October 4, 2010 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Alex Trebek: The word CAT is found under this letter in the Dictionary.......Sean Connery.

Sean Connery: I believe you'd find it in the R section.

Alex Trebek: No not In the Rs.

Sean Connery: Not in the Rs. That's not what your mother said.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 4, 2010 9:09 PM | Report abuse

And the Hawaii luvin' "Cult O Colt" folks forget that Devone Bess is the true pro.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | October 4, 2010 8:57 PM

And he went undrafted the same year as our infamous 2008 draft. All he's done in his first 2+ years is 143 catches and 1461 yards and has contributed on teams.

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 4, 2010 9:18 PM | Report abuse

diesel44

"And he went undrafted the same year as our infamous 2008 draft."


Some guy named Pierre Garcon--wr, Colts-- also went undrafted that year--2008.

Aren't you glad Vinny took MK and DT as high as he did?

Or: was he high when he took them?

Posted by: gimmesummoe | October 4, 2010 9:35 PM | Report abuse

All this hate on the blog after a Redskins win? Wonder what it will be like if they lose again?

sorry beep, put up wonderlic test results and now I'm a racist. get sick and tired of the race baitin crowd. your right though, gotta move on.

the skins are in first place, but it doesn't seem to me they're playing like a first place team. seems to me if the lion's only lose to GB by 2, we should be able to play GB tough and win at home.


Posted by: hessone | October 4, 2010 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Another Hess to Hess High Five!

Posted by: iH8dallas | October 4, 2010 9:40 PM | Report abuse

980 saying Portis could be done, that he heard his groin pop.

Posted by: Rypien11 | October 4, 2010 9:41 PM | Report abuse

Some guy named Pierre Garcon--wr, Colts-- also went undrafted that year--2008.

Aren't you glad Vinny took MK and DT as high as he did?

Or: was he high when he took them?

Posted by: gimmesummoe | October 4, 2010 9:35 PM

You gotta wonder what the hell Vinny was thinking. Picking a one year wonder and a dude with huge injury concerns. Just because they were "tall."

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 4, 2010 9:43 PM | Report abuse

Or: was he high when he took them?

Posted by: gimmesummoe | October 4, 2010 9:35 PM

If you had to look at a draft board with eyes like Vinny, you would make mistakes too.

Posted by: Curzon417 | October 4, 2010 9:43 PM | Report abuse

Some guy named Pierre Garcon--wr, Colts-- also went undrafted that year--2008.

Aren't you glad Vinny took MK and DT as high as he did?

Or: was he high when he took them?

Posted by: gimmesummoe | October 4, 2010 9:35 PM

Vinny's a fool, isn't he? Same as the other 30 GM's in the league who didn't draft these guys.

There's not much Vinny did right, but missing these two guys isn't something he did wrong. He might have tried to sign both of them -- they just didn't want to play for Zorn.

Posted by: beep-beep | October 4, 2010 9:46 PM | Report abuse

Know what's fun? Watching MNF the night after a win. I like.

Posted by: freakzilla | October 4, 2010 9:46 PM | Report abuse

You gotta wonder what the hell Vinny was thinking. Picking a one year wonder and a dude with huge injury concerns. Just because they were "tall."

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 4, 2010 9:43 PM | Report abuse

We should have drafted Greg Oden

Posted by: iH8dallas | October 4, 2010 9:46 PM | Report abuse

*start PSA*

I know the last play of any Skins game can be a little stressful. I almost had a heart attack week 1 AND week 4.

http://vimeo.com/11673844

Safety first, y'all. NSFW, but not too bad.

*end PSA*

Posted by: RomoLongballs | October 4, 2010 9:48 PM | Report abuse

You gotta wonder what the hell Vinny was thinking. Picking a one year wonder and a dude with huge injury concerns. Just because they were "tall."

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 4, 2010 9:43 PM | Report abuse

We should have drafted Greg Oden

Posted by: iH8dallas | October 4, 2010 9:46 PM |

We shoulda drafted anything that had to do with Oline. I bet Danny wants to have Vinny killed now. Years of wasted picks, trades, and money. Now look how far behind the 8 ball we are. We could have an Oline right now. Instead we have 2 guys that can't get on the field and a second TE that we don't really need.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 4, 2010 9:50 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: RomoLongballs | October 4, 2010 9:48 PM

Thanks I learned something.

Reminds me of the time that Squints tricked Wendy Peppercorn into giving him CPR..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr5lHZQz-Z4

Squints walked a little taller that day.

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 4, 2010 9:58 PM | Report abuse

That he did, D44. That he did. Watched that movie a few weeks ago, always good.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | October 4, 2010 10:03 PM | Report abuse

"What a boatload of anger up here this evening. We won yesterday, folks. Is it just that it's Monday? Are your coworkers in danger?
Posted by: NYPDee | October 4, 2010 9:02 PM | Report abuse


All this hate on the blog after a Redskins win? Wonder what it will be like if they lose again?"

Um, what planet you guys from?? OH!! IT'S THE PLANET OF LOVE!!! HAHha..The sign reads, "Will Trade A-Bombs For Food"..Don't forget, 10-10-10 is right around the corner (NFL Freakin' Sunday, no less), we all know how those secret government Globalists like numerology to blow up things, let's all the well-meaning, semi-decent cop security types be hyper-vigilant against the Evil Beast Lurking Menacingly Within Government..

Posted by: frak | October 4, 2010 10:04 PM | Report abuse

just because seeing an iggle get trucked on way to a TD doesnt get old. Ever
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jU8QgAUxVGk

Posted by: swalker5 | October 4, 2010 10:06 PM | Report abuse

You're killing me Smalls.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 4, 2010 10:17 PM | Report abuse

DT does not have to start but he does need to play. I remember last year he was quite Fast and had some nice moves after the catch, get the guy in space and he could be a missing piece of the puzzle, but I guess you don't know that, if you don't play him. some players only show up for prime time ! what have we got to lose ? Who just had 1 catch for 5 yards, Go figure....

Posted by: ThrowItToMyTeam | October 4, 2010 10:10 PM | Report abuse

I'm not impressed with Galloway ! Entertain Me, Moss , Armstong , DT. Just kick it around a couple of series, what have you got to lose?

Posted by: ThrowItToMyTeam | October 4, 2010 10:15 PM

Posted by: ThrowItToMyTeam | October 4, 2010 10:20 PM | Report abuse

Ya ya, poopy. Killing me.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | October 4, 2010 10:20 PM | Report abuse

I haven't had anything yet, so how can I have some more of nothing?

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 4, 2010 10:21 PM | Report abuse

beep-beep

"Vinny's a fool, isn't he? Same as the other 30 GM's in the league who didn't draft these guys."


You're right to say that somehow, Devone Bess and Pierre Garcon somehow 'slipped' through the NFL Scouts talent cracks.

But Vinnie watched tapes of Colt Brennan, and ignored the guy catching his passes--Bess.

Garcon was an easy miss, but DeSean Jackson and Eddie Royal weren't.


Posted by: gimmesummoe | October 4, 2010 10:24 PM | Report abuse

Oh yeah, the Great Bambino. Of course! I thought you said the Great Bambi.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 4, 2010 10:24 PM | Report abuse

Bertram?... Bertram got really into the 60s, and no one ever saw him again.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 4, 2010 10:26 PM | Report abuse

Seein' the Patriot linebacker have multiple interceptions reminded me of old Skins LBs that would do the same: Monte Coleman, Brad Dusek, Mel Kaufman, Neal Olkewicz, Rich Milot and last, but not least, Kurt GOUVEIAAAA!!!

Posted by: frak | October 4, 2010 10:30 PM | Report abuse

But Vinnie watched tapes of Colt Brennan, and ignored the guy catching his passes--Bess.

Garcon was an easy miss, but DeSean Jackson and Eddie Royal weren't.


Posted by: gimmesummoe | October 4, 2010 10:24 PM

Colt Brennan was a sixth round pick. It's not likely Vinnie watched much tape on him. Vinnie's staff spent more time on it. And maybe that staff said "This guy Bess is someone we should go after if he's not drafted." Or they may have said "We're loaded at WR. No point in chasing guys. Let's see if we can't find an OL free agent."

At the time of that draft, no one (among the draft gurus) had rated DeSean or Eddie Royal higher than DT. Many rated them higher than Kelly, though.

Why are we still talking about this? WTF difference does it make anymoe?

Posted by: beep-beep | October 4, 2010 10:43 PM | Report abuse

I call it the 'Burns Omni-Net.' It sweeps the seas clean."

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 4, 2010 10:48 PM | Report abuse

I've designed a new plane. I call it the "Spruce Moose", and it will carry two hundred passengers from New York's Idyllwild Airport to the Belgian Congo in seventeen minutes!

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 4, 2010 10:51 PM | Report abuse

It would be nice if the Skins could play football of the quality I'm seeing tonight.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | October 4, 2010 10:52 PM | Report abuse

The only monster here is the gambling monster that has enslaved your mother! I call him Gamblor, and it's time to snatch your mother from his neon claws!

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 4, 2010 10:55 PM | Report abuse

Vincenzo gave that 6th to zoron: "get a qb you want to develop".

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | October 4, 2010 11:16 PM | Report abuse

I thought this was going to be about Michael Vick.

Posted by: beep-beep | October 4, 2010 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Laughed out loud at that one.

Posted by: mhaslup | October 4, 2010 11:29 PM | Report abuse

Big difference. Hillis can play in the NFL. Devin Thomas can't.

Posted by: beep-beep | October 4, 2010 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Really? So 100 yards/2 TDs against the Super Bowl champs...can't play in the league?

Receivers usually take time to develop. He had the hammy problem his rookie year and missed most of that training camp, had a marginal QB and now has a new coach/system. He obviously has a long way to go and it may well never happen for him here in Washington, but to say he cannot play in this league is pretty ridiculous.

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | October 5, 2010 12:00 AM | Report abuse

Seein' the Patriot linebacker have multiple interceptions reminded me of old Skins LBs that would do the same: Monte Coleman, Brad Dusek, Mel Kaufman, Neal Olkewicz, Rich Milot and last, but not least, Kurt GOUVEIAAAA!!!

Posted by: frak | October 4, 2010 10:30 PM


You left out Wilber Marshall.

Posted by: freakzilla | October 5, 2010 12:41 AM | Report abuse

I don't know why we insist on dissing GMs for not having drafted this late-rounder or that one. All GMs miss on players, all the time. You can find fault with the GM for the guys he drafted that didn't pan out. But not for passing on some sixth or seventh rounder, or some guy who wasn't even drafted. That's the fan equivalent of piling on.

Posted by: Samson151 | October 5, 2010 3:00 AM | Report abuse

I don't know why we insist on dissing GMs for not having drafted this late-rounder or that one. All GMs miss on players, all the time. You can find fault with the GM for the guys he drafted that didn't pan out. But not for passing on some sixth or seventh rounder, or some guy who wasn't even drafted. That's the fan equivalent of piling on.

Posted by: Samson151 | October 5, 2010 3:00 AM | Report abuse

This is true, but when you are blessed with three second round draft picks, you better not waste them. That doesn't happen a lot. Receiving help was about fourth or fifth on the list of positions we needed help at, so of course we draft three receivers. If you are going to do that you had better be completely sure of all three. Instead we got a couple of scrubs and a good tight end who will nonetheless never be as good as the one we already had to begin with. Many good receivers went after these scrubs. It was an epic failure.

Posted by: bosshog7169 | October 5, 2010 3:10 AM | Report abuse

Did anyone else see this wild speculation on McNabb's lack of a contract from that idiot Mike Wise?

"Why this might not be a done deal: One of those former executives said he was told Shanahan was surprised McNabb had a hard time digesting a new offensive system - so much so that the playbook was simplified prior to the game against the Texans. Most of McNabb's production now comes off bootlegs and play-action deep passes, the same kind of improvisation that made him so good in Philadelphia."

And that's the reason why he doesn't have a new deal? That's why his "sources" say that Shanahan wants to wait 8-10 games to see what McNabb's got?

Child, please.

I don't even know why I read that...Wise has ZERO credibility after that Big Ben fiasco and even though he made a couple decent points in the column, it gets the feel that he's pulling stuff outta his ass again. Here's hoping this dude just goes away...

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 5, 2010 5:48 AM | Report abuse

But not for passing on some sixth or seventh rounder, or some guy who wasn't even drafted. That's the fan equivalent of piling on.

Posted by: Samson151 | October 5, 2010 3:00 AM

Or of an air ball.

Posted by: beep-beep | October 5, 2010 5:51 AM | Report abuse

Really? So 100 yards/2 TDs against the Super Bowl champs...can't play in the league?

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | October 5, 2010 12:00 AM

He's had 11 starts. Remind me of all his big performances. Oh, right, you just did.

We went through that yesterday. That was when the Saints (The Super Bowl Champs!) put out a defensive backfield that included a guy who'd been on the street a few weeks before. It's like putting up 100 yards in preseason.

Do you remember when Timmy Smith gained 204 yards rushing and scored two TDs against Denver IN the Super Bowl? And do you know his career stats? 602 yards rushing and three TDs.

Posted by: beep-beep | October 5, 2010 5:59 AM | Report abuse

C'mon beep, you're not new here dude...you know one-hit (or no-hit) wonders are stars up here. I mean, this is the place where Marcus Mason and Marko Mitchell are stars so it's only fitting that a guy that's actually made a play or two in a regular season game gets some love...

Speaking of DT, I can't imagine us getting anything worthwhile for him. I mean, we got a franchise QB for a 2nd rounder and a Pro-Bowl tackle for a mid-rounder. An underachiever that looks like Tarzan and plays like Jane couldn't possibly fetch more than a 5th rounder...unless, of course, we can somehow float a rumor to Al Davis that DT can run a 4.2 40...

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 5, 2010 6:21 AM | Report abuse


beeps peeps

Posted by: hessone | October 5, 2010 6:45 AM | Report abuse

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