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Rex Grossman had little warning he was replacing Donovan McNabb

Redskins quarterback Rex Grossman said Monday morning that he found out he would replace starter Donovan McNabb shortly after McNabb took a fourth-down sack late in the fourth quarter of Sunday's 37-25 loss at Detroit and that he was surprised at the move.

"I was surprised," Grossman said. "But you don't have a lot of time to think about how surprised you are. You're trying to get ready, warm up, think about the plays you want to call in the two-minute situation. It was surprising, but I was ready to go."

But in a nearly six-minute session with reporters Monday - Grossman's first public comments since he was thrust into a six-point game despite the fact that he hadn't taken a snap as a Redskin - the veteran tried to defuse the idea that there is a brewing quarterback controversy in Washington.

"It's going to create a lot of things for you guys to write about," Grossman said to the assembled media. "But the situation is what it is. Donovan's the starter. He's a potential future Hall of Famer. Everybody's got a lot of confidence in him, and I think I'll be ready to go if needed as well, but everybody's got a lot of confidence in Donovan. It's a situation where I think he knows he's got to play a little bit better, but everybody knows he'll do that."

Coach Mike Shanahan is due to address the media at 3 p.m. He said Sunday that he inserted Grossman because of Grossman's familiarity with both the terminology and the formations of the Redskins' two-minute offense - an offense McNabb has not executed efficiently in other late-game situations. Grossman was in this offensive system as a backup in Houston in 2009.

"It's difficult -- down six, a minute 50 [to go], no timeouts -- to drive the whole field for a touchdown when they're playing a prevent defense and getting a pass rush," Grossman said. "It is tough, but at the same time, that's what we get paid to do. Quarterbacks have to be able to run that situation. I feel like I was ready, and it just didn't work out for the reason you saw on the field, but it's not impossible. It's just a difficult situation."

Asked if there was something in particular about the Redskins' two-minute offense that makes it more difficult to grasp than others he has worked in, Grossman said simply, "No." But he added that he became much more comfortable with the entire operation this past offseason.

"Last year, I knew I could do it, but until you have a couple months to digest, get away from football, come back and really get a chance to study it and do it again for a second time, [it] definitely helps," Grossman said.

Grossman was sacked on his first snap of the year. The hit forced him to fumble, and Lions rookie Ndamukong Suh scooped up the ball and returned it for a clinching touchdown. Grossman went on to complete 4 of 7 passes for 44 yards. McNabb, before his unceremonious benching, was 17 of 30 for 210 yards with a touchdown and an interception.

Grossman also offered little clarity on exactly how the Redskins' two-minute offense works. Sunday, McNabb said offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan called the plays in that situation. In answering a question about the differences between running the two-minute drill in practice and the games, Grossman seemed to indicate he called the plays.

"You're still calling your own plays, you're making up your own decision on how to attack a defense, setting up everything yourself, so it's a little bit different than a normal huddle-up offense," Grossman said. "As far as practice to game, you try to simulate the game in practice, so the only thing different is live bullets."

Mike Shanahan said Sunday that one reason why Grossman was put in the game is that he could call two or even three plays at the line of scrimmage if needed. Pressed on the play-calling issue, Grossman said Kyle Shanahan had input.

"I was calling some," Grossman said. "I also had Kyle in my ear calling some plays, setting up situations and Kyle just calls the play. I have to set up the formation and the protection, and sometimes I'll call plays myself in a normal two-minute situation."


By Barry Svrluga  | November 1, 2010; 12:29 PM ET
Categories:  Donovan McNabb, Rex Grossman  
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Comments

Gonna lay it all on the line and say this:

Mike Shanahan is a voyeur.

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | November 1, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Dallas and Minn both need a QB...

I'm not sayin.....I'm just sayin......

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | November 1, 2010 12:22 PM |

For that matter, so does Chicago. Could be a homecoming for DMac for all those that are ticked at his play this season.

I'm willing to stay behind him, sign him and have him groom the QB we draft in April unless that future QB is already on our roster (Bartel?).

No big deal and if the game was lost - and it would have been - by McNabb, all we'd be talking about today is the O-Line.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | November 1, 2010 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Grossman said. "....Quarterbacks have to be able to run that situation. I feel like I was ready, and it just didn't work out for the reason you saw on the field...."

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Translation: Our OL Sucks!

Posted by: kerzon417 | November 1, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Get in line...we were all surprised.

Posted by: PlayAction | November 1, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

I'd pay $1 to know andy reid's REAL thoughts on this.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 1, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Some things (like pulling McNabb for Rex Grossman) hurt.

Some things, however, really sting ... Broncos WR Brandon Lloyd is on pace for 1,756 receiving yards this season.

Posted by: dcsween | November 1, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

I'd pay $1 to know andy reid's REAL thoughts on this.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 1, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Pay him $1? I don't think he'd like that.

Give him a call and tell him you'll take him to Ben's Chili Bowl or Ray's Hell Burger and he'll spill the beans.

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | November 1, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Grossman: calling "some" plays ???? He ran 1 play.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 1, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

I know I've missed almost 24 hours of legit RI chatter up here, but did you guys already talk about finally drafting a replacement center yet?

Also, WHAT in tarnation is the reason that Derrick Dockery is a healthy scratch!?!?! Its past the trading deadline!!!

Posted by: dcsween | November 1, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Not to question Beantown "I didn't even watch the game" Greg's analysis but sometimes the necessary "offensive adjustment" is to catch the ball (fred davis) or block your man (OL) or make the right decision (DMac). Can't blame the offensive coordinator for everything.

Posted by: mack1 | November 1, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

I know I've missed almost 24 hours of legit RI chatter up here, but did you guys already talk about finally drafting a replacement center yet?

Also, WHAT in tarnation is the reason that Derrick Dockery is a healthy scratch!?!?! Its past the trading deadline!!!

Posted by: dcsween | November 1, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Why would anyone trade for Dock? he went to buffalo and crapped it all up before coming back here, too old, similar to everyone on the team, old, re-hashes

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | November 1, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Some things (like pulling McNabb for Rex Grossman) hurt.

Some things, however, really sting ... Broncos WR Brandon Lloyd is on pace for 1,756 receiving yards this season.

Posted by: dcsween | November 1, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

dcsween...Lloyd doesn't hurt...Gibbs didn't use him and couldn't motivate him...what does hurt are the countless draft picks and poor personnel moves we made when he was here.

Posted by: rickyroge | November 1, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse

I blame yesterday on what used to be the Skins problem ... the offensive line ... which was a complete rebuilt, except for one guy, Rabach, who is now the weak link in an already weak chain. The more things change the more they stay the same. Skins' top need is still the offensive line. It offends me.

Posted by: dcsween | November 1, 2010 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Not going to win many arguments supporting a call with a 25% success rate yesterday. I'm not sure you start reaching for points like that with 10 minutes to go.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | November 1, 2010 12:20 PM

Going for 2 is a 25% success rate?

League wide, I'm pretty sure its in the 40-50% range. If Davis can catch, we would have got the first one and wouldn't have had to attempt the 2nd.

Posted by: Rypien11 | November 1, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

People talk a lot about Grossman's penchant for making bone headed plays, but I do think the guy is a student of the game. I've heard him talk numerous times and I think one day he will be a coach in the NFL. Still, I don't think you put in the guy at the end of a game when you've said you don't have confidence in him to start.

Clear and simple, Shanahan is frustrated with his offense's lack of scoring. I think he was looking for a spark yesterday by putting Grossman in, and it was, in retrospect, a bad call. Knowing Shanahan, he will deliver one line on the subject about how he thought the switch gave his team the best chance to win at the time and McNabb is still the starter. Then he will refuse to offer any other comments on the subject.

One last comment on McNabb. I think McNabb is more of a sandlot quarterback. He improvises very well. Instead of Shanny ratcheting down on him, maybe he needs to give him a little more freedom to make changes on the fly. If they stopped toying with his mechanics and let him do more with his feet, I think they would see a more productive offense.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 1, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Why would anyone trade for Dock?

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | November 1, 2010 12:43 PM

Because he's big and not injured.

Posted by: dcsween | November 1, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

one name:

Joey Galloway

Seriously? Send this guy packing, now.

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | November 1, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Peter King explains the McNabb benching so clearly that everyone up here but Brownwood will understand it...

Posted by: beep-beep | November 1, 2010 11:09 AM


First off, detailed doesn't mean clearly.

Second, when did Peter King become the trump card in a football argument? He's the Dallas Cowboys of sportswriting...everyone gives him a ton of love and I'm still waiting see why. And I'm still waiting on that vote for "America's Team" and "America's Favorite Sportswriter".

Third, I'll clarify my position again: benching McNabb isn't galactically stupid in and of itself. Benching him when The Human Turnover is your primary backup is what makes it full retard. Wanting McNabb to play better makes sense. Benching him for a guy who is worse in EVERY possible way does not.

Again...if the backup has a better grasp of the offense than the starter that's on the coach--either for not properly getting the starter prepared to play or for not starting the backup that allegedly is sooo much further advanced in the offense.

This is a black eye for Shanahan--not McNabb.

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 1, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

"We're close to being a good football team," said tight end Chris Cooley. "But every part of our offense is garbage. Not just one facet but all of it. It's me, too. I keep thinking we're going to do something to really break out of this. I just don't know when."

What else do you need to know about our Offense Folks? Joey F-king Galloway, gimme a break! Dude is getting paid to be an excellent practice participant.

Posted by: bhoang888 | November 1, 2010 12:47 PM | Report abuse

I'd pay $1 to know andy reid's REAL thoughts on this.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 1, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Pay him $1? I don't think he'd like that.

Give him a call and tell him you'll take him to Ben's Chili Bowl or Ray's Hell Burger and he'll spill the beans.

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse

He'd spill them all over his shirt ...

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 1, 2010 12:47 PM | Report abuse

baffoonery reigns in this organization

Posted by: miked4 | November 1, 2010 12:47 PM | Report abuse

This benching was long overdue. McDude has not played well at all this season -- and even worse of late.

Hopefully with two weeks to prep up for Philly, Rex will be ready to lead this team through the second half of the season and into the playoffs.

Go Rex!

Posted by: Vic1 | November 1, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Doesn't sound like the marketing department in Ashburn is controlling the messages very well. There are serious issues when your QB and OC are not on the same page while anonymous players weigh in on the issue. Once again it is the offensive line and abysmal play calling that is the issue. Wasn't Shanahan brought in to solve these issues? Is #5 calling the plays he is supposed to? He certainly isn't making good decisions or being accurate when he has time. Bruce Allen certainly should be burning up phone lines to find solutions but I bet he doesn't call the Iggles again. He crowed about getting #5 but is curiously silent while many fingers are being pointed and none seem to be at him.

Posted by: splitbill | November 1, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

This is a black eye for Shanahan--not McNabb.

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 1, 2010 12:46 PM

And that's because every coach in the league is saying "Man, now that Reid and Shanahan have both benched McNabb I want him to start for me next year."

Posted by: beep-beep | November 1, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

I was flabbergasted when they pulled McNabb from the game. However, now that I see that Rodney Harrison is against it, I'm starting to think there may be some merit there.

Posted by: JohnnyRyde | November 1, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

So now, if I'm DMac I'm definitely looking at the door after this season.

Minnesota never looked so good.

I can go play with a head coach who is a friend, knows me, respect me and runs my offense, instead of take grief from a 30 year old coach's-son coordinator telling me my mechanics are off.

I can go play with Adrian Peterson, Percy Harvin, Visanthe Shiancoe and maybe Randy Moss, instead of Keiland Williams, Joey Galloway and Anthony Armstrong.

I can play behind an Oline where Artis Hicks is a backup instead of a valued starter.

I can play for an owner willing to give $20mill/year to has-been QBs like myself.

Posted by: p1funk | November 1, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, are we the only ones on that list?

Posted by: monk811 | November 1, 2010 12:23 PM

Hell no...he's the ITN KING!

Do you know how giddy I was when my 26-20 with Gano being a perfect 4 for 4 prediction was coming along at halftime? 13-7 with Gano 2 for 2 at half haha...then the wheels fell off. I'm throwing out my number crunching machine tonight.

Posted by: PlayAction | November 1, 2010 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Darn, I thought I was part of elite company! How'd Hess get so grumpy anyway, he not getting any or something?

Yeah, I think my machine needs to go too!! Not because it gives me the wrong predictions, but it told me to joke with Hess today, and now it got me on the 'Peace List'!!!

Posted by: monk811 | November 1, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

This benching was long overdue. McDude has not played well at all this season -- and even worse of late.

Hopefully with two weeks to prep up for Philly, Rex will be ready to lead this team through the second half of the season and into the playoffs.

Go Rex!

Posted by: Vic1 | November 1, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse


Your opinion is long overdue for a benching.

Posted by: p1funk | November 1, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Minnesota never looked so good.

Posted by: p1funk | November 1, 2010 12:57 PM

Maybe. But it takes two to make a deal, and right now McNabb never looked so bad.

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Posted by: adfjsfsfg | November 1, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Nobody wants to buy your NERD artifacts!

Posted by: monk811 | November 1, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

I think it would be good if the Redskins got a big receiver on the roster just to practice with the DB's. Everyone can groan when I mention Anthony Mix or Javon Walker, but I think one of the reasons why our DB's have trouble with big receivers on game day is they have no big receivers to practice with. Maybe the guy could end up contributing, but the primary reason would be to get the corners used to playing against bigger receivers.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 1, 2010 1:02 PM | Report abuse


So now, if I'm DMac I'm definitely looking at the door after this season.

Minnesota never looked so good.

I can go play with a head coach who is a friend, knows me, respect me and runs my offense, instead of take grief from a 30 year old coach's-son coordinator telling me my mechanics are off.

I can go play with Adrian Peterson, Percy Harvin, Visanthe Shiancoe and maybe Randy Moss, instead of Keiland Williams, Joey Galloway and Anthony Armstrong.

I can play behind an Oline where Artis Hicks is a backup instead of a valued starter.

I can play for an owner willing to give $20mill/year to has-been QBs like myself.


Posted by: p1funk | November 1, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like a no-brainer to me.

He'd also be out of the NFC East, which is a good thing for him.

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | November 1, 2010 1:02 PM | Report abuse

This is a black eye for Shanahan--not McNabb.

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 1, 2010 12:46 PM

John Hancock

Especially with bytes from players starting to trickle out about how they're behind McNabb.

Not sure if Shanny thought that the sight of Rex grossman in the huddle was going to inspire Braveheart-like confidence in the guys...but it apparently did not.

Man, the more I think about that benching the more asinine it seems in every way...

Posted by: p1funk | November 1, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

sometimes the necessary "offensive adjustment" is to catch the ball (fred davis) or block your man (OL) or make the right decision (DMac). Can't blame the offensive coordinator for everything.

NONE of that was working all game long, and there STILL wasn't any adjustment...THAT is on the offensive coordinator....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 1, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

I tried to tell you all that Shan-a-cool was a Zorn-a-han

and New Soup doesn't make your O-line better or your RBs

Torain is a wus

Banks I gotta give it up to he scored a TD before he fumbled, so props. Still, don;t cut Devin Thomas, cut Roydell, Galloway, or Paulsen

Training camp was a joke

zorn-a-cool dyed his hair blond?? then sucked.

Say your putting in Grossman for a spark or to protect McNabb shan-a-dumb

Posted by: pabrian2003 | November 1, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, I think my machine needs to go too!! Not because it gives me the wrong predictions, but it told me to joke with Hess today, and now it got me on the 'Peace List'!!!

Posted by: monk811 | November 1, 2010 12:59 PM

Not the machines fault monk...it was just a matter of time before you got on his bad side.

And to think...now I have two weeks to come up with the wrong score!

Whoever came up with bye weeks = NERD!

Whoever got rid of the TWO bye week schedule = GENIUS.

Posted by: PlayAction | November 1, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

I think like all fathers do, Shanny is siding with his son. His sons play calling has been terrible and combine that with fact that the interior linemen are empty trash cans, gives us the results. Dmac isn't playing great but as with JC if you don't have blocking up front, you don't win.
2 minute Off is run by the QB, not the OC.
I wasn't a fan of Shanny before he got here and he doesn't get any passes from me now that he's the coach. His roster moves so far have been the difference in all our losses. Failure to get AH involved b/c of pissing match, releasing DT and keeping Galloway who has maybe 10 catches this season, benching Dock for Lictenstieger (CL has been getting his hat handed to him ever since the benching), signing Rabach to a 3 yr ext., not signing a blocking TE to free up Cooley and Davis, the fact we have 3 SS's and 1 FS, etc.

Posted by: priceisright | November 1, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

I can go play with a head coach who is a friend, knows me, respect me and runs my offense, instead of take grief from a 30 year old coach's-son coordinator telling me my mechanics are off.

I can go play with Adrian Peterson, Percy Harvin, Visanthe Shiancoe and maybe Randy Moss, instead of Keiland Williams, Joey Galloway and Anthony Armstrong.

I can play behind an Oline where Artis Hicks is a backup instead of a valued starter.

I can play for an owner willing to give $20mill/year to has-been QBs like myself.


Posted by: p1funk

Please Childress is gone at the end of the season he is a terrible head coach.

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 1, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

4-4.

This is an extremely flawed roster and 8-8 (as many of us predicted) is probably where we are headed.

The Lions had 2 weeks of preparation and were playing at home where they average 38 PTs per game.

The better team won. Besides DBs, LBs, & KR/PR, the Lions are better at every position.

Also didn't help that Jim Swartz and Co. outcoached MS, KS, & JH.

Shocked at some of the Spurrier/Zorn type coaching yesterday.

1. Going for 2 with 12 mins left and the lead
2. Up 5, with 4 mins left and calling a pass play (the call was BAD but the throw by McNabb was WORSE)
3. Going for it with over 2 mins left and two TOs (essentially gave the Lions 3 pts)
4. Pulling McNabb (who made some plays with his feet, but was terrible) with the game still in the balance for Rex F'ing Grossman.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 1, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Man, the more I think about that benching the more asinine it seems in every way...

Posted by: p1funk | November 1, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

All he had to do is say it was "for a spark" or to protect McNabb.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | November 1, 2010 1:10 PM | Report abuse

In every conflict McNabb has, everyone takes McNabb's side except for the coach he's having a conflict with.

But, none of that matters, the trade deadline has passed.

Besides, when the QB is running for his life from the moment the ball is snapped, what is needed is escape-ability, not knowledge of scheme.

Posted by: heyjoe728 | November 1, 2010 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Nobody wants to buy your NERD artifacts!

Posted by: monk811 | November 1, 2010 1:01 PM

Lmao...easy monk...thats JReids side business.

Posted by: PlayAction | November 1, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Donovan McNabb is allowing himself to be sacked to follow what Kyle Shanahan wanted him to do. Bad mistake for both of them. The offensive line is a joke. Once again, the Redskins are the laughingstock of NFL.

Posted by: RedCherokee | November 1, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

I would leave if I was McNabb too. I'm still supporting Shanahan, because I can only imagine where we'd be with Vinny, but Mikey is making it tough. If you don't like Donovan, don't trade second round picks for him. If you do, let him try to make a play.

I mean, dag, you could throw a bomb and hope to get an interference call, worked for the Jets. (actually, probably couldn't protect for the 3 seconds required to throw a bomb, but still...). But how he ever believed Rex was going to succeed behind that line (or any other) is astounding.

And again, this line is softer than a kittens belly up the middle, yet Dock sits on the bench. Say what you want, I do not understand it.

Kyle is not looking so hot without Andre Johnson, and Houston's offense hasn't missed a beat without him. I'm just saying. To hang it all on Donovan there seems crazy.

Posted by: AdamCr | November 1, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

should have kept Campbell and the 2nd round pick that could have been OL or RB

should have kept the 4-3

probably could've had Campbell and McNabb if the team was well managed

Posted by: pabrian2003 | November 1, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

NONE of that was working all game long, and there STILL wasn't any adjustment...THAT is on the offensive coordinator....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 1, 2010 1:06 PM

What adjustment makes Fred catch, the line block and DMac accurate? And please don't say the bootleg.

Posted by: mack1 | November 1, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Once again, the Redskins are the laughingstock of NFL.

Posted by: RedCherokee | November 1, 2010 1:13 PM

That would be Dallas this year fortunately.

Posted by: PlayAction | November 1, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

I blame yesterday on what used to be the Skins problem ... the offensive line ... which was a complete rebuilt, except for one guy, Rabach, who is now the weak link in an already weak chain. The more things change the more they stay the same. Skins' top need is still the offensive line. It offends me.

Posted by: dcsween | November 1, 2010 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Rabach is in a 4-way tie for the weak link

Posted by: pabrian2003 | November 1, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse


Not to question Beantown "I didn't even watch the game" Greg's analysis but sometimes the necessary "offensive adjustment" is to catch the ball (fred davis) or block your man (OL) or make the right decision (DMac). Can't blame the offensive coordinator for everything.

Posted by: mack1 | November 1, 2010 12:41 PM |

cosign

although the coaches have a fair amount of blame to accept for the loss, the players are the ones that need to execute the freakin game plan.

the talent is just not there folks


Posted by: hessone | November 1, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

so thats it mack, you just give up, take sack after sack....you do the same thing over and over expecting different results...when DM was sacked on the first play from scrimmage, didn't that maybe set something off that the OL was gonna need help....

roll mcnabb out, put Dock into the lineup, do SOMETHING DIFFERENT...Shanny is supposed to be an offensive genius, have you seen genius yet?? Cuz, i've seen more zorn/repeat of last year than anything......

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 1, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

More SURPRISED beeps

Posted by: PlayAction | November 1, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

when DM was sacked on the first play from scrimmage, didn't that maybe set something off that the OL was gonna need help....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 1, 2010 1:20 PM

He wasn't sacked. He fell down because Rabach stepped on his foot.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 1, 2010 1:26 PM | Report abuse

I can play for an owner willing to give $20mill/year to has-been QBs like myself.


Posted by: p1funk | November 1, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

After this year and the Favre debacle, they might be out of the old, has been, QB business as well.

McNabb might not have as many options as people think.

Familiarity, and continuity in this offense with an improved offensive line just might be his best option?

Assuming they work things out behind closed doors and can find some good interior offensive linemen.

One can hope.

Posted by: Devo2 | November 1, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Minnesota never looked so good.

Posted by: p1funk | November 1, 2010 12:57 PM

Maybe. But it takes two to make a deal, and right now McNabb never looked so bad.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 1, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

He's not doing himself any favors on an open market, but you've got to believe he'd be able to sell teams like Minny on the notion that he can still play; the Skins were just a bad fit for what he does.

He won't get Favre $$, but if he brings down the asking price in exchange for a real shot at a ring, I have a hard time seeing Zygi pass the opportunity...also b/c it will keep Minny in a prime-time spotlight...Tavaris Jackson is not exactly going to sell jerseys...

Posted by: p1funk | November 1, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

3. Going for it with over 2 mins left and two TOs (essentially gave the Lions 3 pts)
4. Pulling McNabb (who made some plays with his feet, but was terrible) with the game still in the balance for Rex F'ing Grossman.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 1, 2010 1:09 PM

Those were the 2 that bothered me the most. Going for it on 4th down may have actually been dumber than benching McNabb (the advantage to benching McNabb being that he gets out of Detroit alive). But both decisions stunk. If you punt it away on fourth down with the 2 min. warning and 2 TOs, and with the way Banks had been returning the ball, you may end up with great field position and a ton of time left.

I don't have much of a problem with going for 2 or the decision to throw while in the lead with a veteran QB that generally can be trusted not to throw into triple coverage. I said generally.

Posted by: HokiesSkins | November 1, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

The only problem I have with benching McNabb is that it will take the focus off the real problem. THE PLAYERS! The offensive line is painful to watch. Rabach is too old and too slow. Heyer has his head up his @ss. Willimas was beat time after time. Put Grossman in (right or wrong) and same thing...no blocking, sack, fumble. A quarterback needs blocking and he needs receivers that can out run coverages and can catch. Mcnabb might not be the answer but he is not our biggest problem.

Where was our defense in the second half. I understadn that if our offense could get a couple first downs our defence wouldn't be out there as much but you got to ba able to stop someone. Both Stafford and 81 had CAREER days against us. We cant stop ANYONE! And when we do the offense goes 3 and out. We are a total team disaster.

We will spend the next 2 weeks talking about Shanahan pulling McNabb but the real focus needs to be on a rostor of players that are over matched, careless and are simply outplayed each and every week.

Posted by: mike110 | November 1, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

People talk a lot about Grossman's penchant for making bone headed plays, but I do think the guy is a student of the game...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 1, 2010 12:46 PM


They said the same of Steve Spurrier.

I'll just let that marinate for a minute...

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 1, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: p1funk

Please Childress is gone at the end of the season he is a terrible head coach.

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 1, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse


He was a terrible head coach last year too, but with the right QB and players fitted together they were one Favre-pick away from the Superbowl.

Not unreasonable to think they couldn't put together a similar run with mcNabb - especially since he and Chilly get along just fine.

Posted by: p1funk | November 1, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Grossman=Danny Woeful of lil Shanny!

seriously Nepotism SUCKS a $$!!! what is on his resume? the texans?!!! who have an offensiv HC? and who hired lil shanny as a favor to his former boss?!

running on a first down when you're trying to melt the clock is not a commitment. running on the first AND SECOND down when you don't gain much on first down is!!!

and the only coach who is performing at a high level is the only coach who he didn't bring in, Danny Smith. Why was Buges let go? I never saw this type of ineptitude with Buges line. even with heyer and rabach.

Posted by: dealer1 | November 1, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Once again, the Redskins are the laughingstock of NFL.

Posted by: RedCherokee | November 1, 2010 1:13 PM

That would be Dallas this year fortunately.

Posted by: PlayAction | November 1, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Thank God too because last year it WAS us.

Posted by: Pepper5 | November 1, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

We were all shocked. And it's a blow to the Shanahans', both of them, credibility. Could have cost us the game, just as not playing Haynesworth against the Colts could have cost us that one. I remain a Shanahan supporter......but come on. Seems like something, ego or politics, whatever, is fogging up their judgment.

Posted by: steven09 | November 1, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Just when we thought we had a head coach . . . Grossman over McNabb?!! WTF!?

Posted by: tomgill21 | November 1, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Redskins fans... Welcome to the Donovan McNabb show..!! McNabb has talent. He can throw, run, and laugh his way through ANY game, no matter how badly he performs. He's the first to say "It's supposed to be fun." And for his salary, I'm sure it is.

If you care to notice, he'll make pretty good numbers in pass completions.. but he doesn't like to throw completions that the receiver can advance. He throws passes that great receivers can JUST manage to catch, but then are in no position to gain more yardage. You'll notice then, that's why McNabb doesn't do well in the 'red zone'. With the playing field tightened up, it's harder and harder for McNabb to find a receiver he can through a barely catchable pass to.

McNabb likes to throw passes low, behind, with the receivers between him and the defensive backs. Watch the stats on yardage AFTER THE PASS COMPLETION.

McNabb has talent... did I mention that..?? He's a good player, but not a winner. He is not someone who will put 3, 4, 5 great plays together in a MUST situation to win a game. Won't happen. When a play "works" he can perform well.. when he has to improvise or make a PERFECT pass, forget it.

Also, don't expect McNabb to be upset by defeat or losing. If he is, nobody ever knows it. He stays 'calm' in every situation... winning, losing, playing, not playing, picking up his check, talking to the press... etc.

Do your best to enjoy it. He does.

Posted by: oldpcguy | November 1, 2010 2:09 PM | Report abuse

MMMMM Viks just cut Moss could we see 2 Moss team ??

Posted by: mr_armyman_nc | November 1, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

There is only one thing that needs to be done, and done right away. Fire Kyle Shanahan. It will take years to revamp the offensive line, so they will have to figure out a way to get most out of the players they have. Kyle Shanahan does not know how to do that because he is too immature, inexperienced, and rigid in his thinking. And for God's sake, he has to learn to stand on his own rather than ride on his daddy's coattail!

Posted by: motherforobama | November 1, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

It wouldn't have mattered who was QB on that last play. The Lions D was in Rex's face almost before he snapped the ball. The O-line is responsible for this game plain and simple.

Posted by: EKruse | November 1, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

RUSH WAS RIGHT RUSH WAS RIGHT RUSH WAS RIGHT
MSM are jacka**es

Posted by: pane1 | November 1, 2010 4:49 PM | Report abuse

RUSH WAS RIGHT RUSH WAS RIGHT RUSH WAS RIGHT
Main Stream Media is a disgrace...
ESPN is a disgrace

Posted by: pane1 | November 1, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan just made an enormous ass of himself. There is no other way to evaluate this move. The 'Skins had a real chance to drive down the field with 1:50 left, even with McNabb not playing optimally. The 'Skins had no chance with Grossman. No one was surprised that the first play was a fumble for a touchdown-- Game Over. For Shanny to say he believed Grossman gave the Skins the best chance to win is scary! If he really believes this, then the Skins have big problems. Don't foget the boneheaded fourth and very long that Shanny went for deep in 'Skins territory-- A punt followed by three and out = better field position and only 3 points to tie. BONEHEAD!

Posted by: RingYourClock | November 1, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Both Shanahans are full of it. Grossman is still just a squirrel trying to get a nut. He may tell you he's "confident" because he "won" a superbowl. I think everybody who's watched him know that for him to SAY that, as if his performance was responsible, indicates how delusional he really is. Back to the Shanahags (yeh, i spelled it correctly this time): fookem on the plane they rode in on!

Posted by: dcjazzman | November 1, 2010 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Mc nub was just the media's black quarterback trophy as is Mike Vick..get over it..

Posted by: pane1 | November 1, 2010 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Mcnabb and Shannahan both Suck! Redskins are still a joke of a franchise. Think about this. Skins go 8-8 next three years with shanny as head coach and then he hands off the reigns to his son to pick up where he left off. I know the guy won two superbowls but even Al Davis knows he's not the coach he thinks he is.

Posted by: jdb70 | November 1, 2010 6:39 PM | Report abuse

"...People talk a lot about Grossman's penchant for making bone headed plays, but I DO THINK THE GUY IS A STUDENT OF THE GAME..." Posted by: RedSkinHead

OK. So he's a student. So are most sportswriters. So are many of the guys in these blogs. Knowing something doesn't always make you able to DO it. I KNEW how to dunk (and could jump high enough) but my hand/fingers weren't large enough to control anything larger than a soccer ball.

Big difference. I liked your observation about Spurrier, too, Brownwood.

Posted by: dcjazzman | November 1, 2010 7:03 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan implying McNabb isnt smart enough to handle the offense has clear racial overtones. Shanahan is a horrible coach who will win a smaller percentage of games here than Zorn did....ie less than 37.5%.

Posted by: wturner1 | November 1, 2010 8:01 PM | Report abuse

For the record, anyone dumb enough to say Rex is the answer should be taken out back and smacked, senseless. His own mother wouldn't choose him over McNabb. Bad offensive line, bad offensive/defensive schemes, bad coaching, bad cuts, you let go of WIllie Parker and Larry Johnson, just dumb and a terrible owner. Enough said.

Posted by: ktaylor15 | November 1, 2010 8:11 PM | Report abuse

Anyone can get sacked. Anyone can fumble. Anyone can have that fumble returned for a TD. Anyone can decide the game on a single play. Anyone can create a feeding frenzy from the local and national media. Anyone can call into question the credibility of both the head coach and the offensive coordinator. Anyone can create accusations of racism. Anyone can create a quarterback controversy.

It takes a truly special player to do all of that on a single play.

Posted by: randysbailin | November 1, 2010 9:01 PM | Report abuse

I love it when they say that McNabb is "good but not a winner". How often do they say that about Marino (never won a Super Bowl) or their good ole buddy Sonnie Jurgensen (never won anything, in fact had a LOSING record for his career)?
McNabb may or may not be over the hill, and he is certainly past his prime, but despite his shortcomings, he is probably deserving of the Hall of Fame. If you don't think so, just objectively compare his life-time personal and team record with many QBs already in. You can at least make a case for him. He is #17 all-time in career QB ratings, ahead of Hall-Of Famers Jim Kelly, Roger Staubach, Len Dawson, Sonny Jurgensen, Troy Aikman and others. In his 11 years has been in 6 Pro Bowls, and in the playoffs 7 times. There are no Washington QBs in the last 50 years with a better or more winning record.

Posted by: jos587 | November 2, 2010 2:40 AM | Report abuse

shanahan did what he needed to do. He didn't want to bench McNabb. His point is that he will play whoever he thinks can win the game at that point. McNabb gets the message. He will finally commit to playing Shanahan's way. It's not like he was playing well before this.

Posted by: skaint | November 2, 2010 5:16 AM | Report abuse

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