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Redskins win one for their leader

Sure, climbing to 2-0 in the division is a huge accomplishment for the Redskins, but in the locker room, every player seemed to know just what the win meant for one player in particular. Here's a sampling of the reaction to Donovan McNabb returning to Philadelphia and defeating his former team.

Linebacker London Fletcher: ""We had a little extra motivation, a certain teammate for us, No. 5. It felt good. We had to come in here and help him get a victory against a team that basically said, 'You're not good enough. This is what we think of you: We'll trade you in the division.' I think today he got the best of them."

Coach Mike Shanahan: "You got to find a way to win. At the end of the day, you want to come back and do that. And he was able to do that. I think he handled himself just like a pro throughout the week. He's really a classy individual."

McNabb: "I said it all week that I wasn't going to let any of the hoopla affect what the mindset was and the mindset was for all of us was to be focused and ready to do, to come out here and win the game. I was overwhelmed a little bit with the standing ovation and the reception that I got, but again, when you're going down there and everything, you have to buckle your chinstrap and win the game."

Linebacker Lorenzo Alexander: "Donovan is a great guy, and I think we all played a little harder for him since he was coming home. I think there was a ton of pride in this locker room and after the game we gave him the game ball because we know how much he probably wanted this game. We knew that he wanted the win, even though all week he said the game was a team thing."

Eagles Coach Andy Reid, on what he said to McNabb: "I just [said hello] to him after the game and told him he did a nice job."

Receiver Anthony Armstrong: "He said to us all after the game that he could see on all our faces that they really wanted to get a win. We just wanted to step up for the team and also for him and make plays. Donovan knew he could trust us and that we would make plays to win the game."

Receiver Santana Moss: "I thought that if we went out and played hard, we would get the win for him and for ourselves. ...It was just special, though, to get the win for him back at the place that he played at for many seasons."

Safety Kareem Moore: "We really wanted to get this win for Donovan because we knew it really meant something to him. We were able to get this win for him and ourselves, and now we have to put it behind us and come out next week. This was a divisional win for us and that was huge. But we really wanted to win the game for Donovan."

By Rick Maese  | October 3, 2010; 11:29 PM ET
Categories:  Donovan McNabb  
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FIRST in the East!

Posted by: freakzilla | October 3, 2010 11:37 PM | Report abuse

A win is a win, doubly good when it's in division. Congrats boys. I got no finger nails left, but it was worth it.

Hopefully we can learn to close people out when we have them down!!

Posted by: stevek20147 | October 3, 2010 11:41 PM | Report abuse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DDQ4Y9ZIwI&feature=player_embedded

Check this out from McNabb, especially the last few seconds.

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 3, 2010 11:42 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 3, 2010 11:42 PM

Absolutely!

Posted by: stevek20147 | October 3, 2010 11:45 PM | Report abuse

Nicely done, Skins.

I didn't see them winning this game given the direction both of these teams were taking, but that seems to be the state of the NFL right now: no one is elite, everyone is vulnerable.

They did a great job of taking Jackson and Macklin out of the game with the Cover 2 - Moore had a great game, and the corners played well.

They also established who the more physical team was gonna be early on, which impressed me.

Being picky, it would be nice to see them lay the hammer down rather than giving everyone a heart attack by letting late leads slip away, but after a 4-12 season, beggers can't be choosers.

Let's see if they can keep some momentum against the Packers, who after looking like a Super Bowl team early, have shown some warts of their own lately.

Posted by: shaunsherman12 | October 4, 2010 12:15 AM | Report abuse

Some observations...

Corners and secondary played great. The less Doughty sees the field the better.

No catches for Moss, but he had a really nice block on longer run from Torain.

Huge catch on third down from Galloway in the 4th. Nice to see he has a pulse.

O-Line played well. Getting Jamaal Brown in the off season was a huge signing.

GET BETTER SILVERBACK. Heyer played ok but that false start was inexcusable on a run play.

Do we need to bring Hunter Smith back? Longwell was terrible.

Orakpo would have 8-10 sacks this year if he didn't get held every other play.

Finally a system that utilizes Landry.

Haynesworth had a big solo tackle on third and 2 in the 2nd quarter. Shed a blocker and wrapped up, Skins need more of that.

Has Fletcher lost a step or is getting covered up by guards/center? Him and Rocky look awfully slow.

Carlos Rogers hands are pure concrete.

Posted by: saltine182 | October 4, 2010 12:36 AM | Report abuse

I was at the game this afternoon and from my upper-level seat you could get a great view of how the Skins o- and d-lines were controlling the play all afternoon. I have been a big critic of AH92 but he was bullrushing with a vengance in play after play today. He looked like he finally made up his mind to play some football. I hope that continues.

No PABrian up in here with his complaints? I guess 2-0 in the division, including a road win (!) is tough to complain about, especially when it featured a solid running game, lots of AH playing solid footbal, and even nice contributions by BB16 and AA13. I am sure after some reflection time he will be back to complain about the lack of opportunities for DT11 on offense or #5's completion percentage or some such.

Posted by: manlius1 | October 4, 2010 12:44 AM | Report abuse

I should have mentioned that Bidwell looked awful. Can't have another showing like that from the punter. Field position is too important.

Posted by: manlius1 | October 4, 2010 12:48 AM | Report abuse

Great game for the Skins yesterday. Needed that game BADLY and got it. Just a couple thoughts:

-CP's demise was greatly exaggerated. I knew he had at least a little something left in the tank, dude just needed the O-line to open some holes. That was apparent on Sunday.

-Get Hunter the Punter back in burgundy and gold. Bidwell looked like crap yesterday and I'm always leery of a guy who gets hurt a lot and doesn't play a position that involves, you know, CONTACT. Make a move on the obvious upgrade before it's too late.

-I knew this defense wasn't as bad as it looked the two games prior. All we heard about all week was about Vick and the tons of weapons he had and how the Redskins had no answers. Looked to me like they had plenty of answers since neither of those speedy WRs was a factor and Kolb was the checkdown king when he got in the game.

-Not sure what happened to DMac in the 2nd half, but I was hoping he'd play better in his return to Philly. I'm sure he's just fine getting the win even though he didn't exactly showcase himself against the team that quit on him, but the irony is sweet that the Eagles' QB position is in flux now that he's gone.

-Brandon Banks looked good and showed why he needs to be on this roster. He's a threat to go the distance whenever he touches it and was a couple shoestring tackles from having a huge day. Not to say "I told ya so", but...I bloody well told ya so...

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 4, 2010 5:20 AM | Report abuse

Happier today than I was at the end of the game (finished just before 1am in the UK and my nerves were shot!).

This team is going to do this to us more often than not this year, we have too any holes to dominate any NFL teams.

That said, look at the number of teams that are 2-2 (KC are the only unbeaten!) and even the favourites have all lost a game.

There is an opportunity here. I would've settled for 8-8 before week 1 (it still wouldn't be bad) but, if the team can continue to gel and improve we can do some damage.

We should be 4-0 (terrible losses) but, long-term, it'll probably help the coach keep the team from getting cocky.

More 4-3 fronts please. New punter please. Trent Williams back healthy please (Heyer was brutal).

Imagine what we'll be like next year, with some 3-4 defenders!

HTTR!

Posted by: stevebeagrie | October 4, 2010 5:44 AM | Report abuse

Orakpo would have 8-10 sacks this year if he didn't get held every other play.-saltine182

My feelings exactly..And Reid didn't even seem fazed when they called them, like 1st and 20 was better than 2nd and 19 anytime..

Doughty and Heyer still have value as backups, who doesn't suffer when the starter goes down in this league..At least Heyer didn't cost us the game..

Hail McNabb!! Finally the team has a franchise QB to build around!! (I'll try to keep the noisen down in the subweapon studio)..

Posted by: frak | October 4, 2010 6:15 AM | Report abuse

Only saw the 4th kinda ugly but who cares...beating the Eagles is always good. Happy to hear rumors of a running game. Banks was good news as well.

I think if they go down to Dallas in December and put a whuppin' on the Cowboys it will have been a good season.

Brandon Lloyd 11 catches 115 yards for Denver. Huh?

Posted by: Pepper5 | October 4, 2010 6:26 AM | Report abuse

At least Heyer didn't cost us the game..

Posted by: frak | October 4, 2010 6:15 AM


Not this time. But having this jerk holding and false-starting every other play will cost us a game down the line if he continues to play. Can't get this dude outta town fast enough...

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 4, 2010 6:26 AM | Report abuse

Not this time. But having this jerk holding and false-starting every other play will cost us a game down the line if he continues to play. Can't get this dude outta town fast enough...

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 4, 2010 6:26 AM

I agree. Five penalties on the 'Skins yesterday and three of them were on Heyer -- two false starts and a hold. The guy's had too much playing time for that. He's Flozell Adams but without the skills to slow down an elite rusher.

Posted by: beep-beep | October 4, 2010 6:32 AM | Report abuse

Portis had a few good reuns yesterday, but I still think he's done...he looks like he doesn't wanna play football anymore.

Ryan "All Torain Vehicle does!

Posted by: rickyroge | October 4, 2010 6:39 AM | Report abuse

Hey remeber we have new schemes on both sides of the ball, we knew that it would take time to get things together. We were still able to win games, hopefully they will start playing better now that the schedule gets harder.

The roster is a work in progress there was no way they could overhaul the entire roster, with few draft picks and with the way FA was set-up with the uncapped year.

Posted by: Flounder21 | October 4, 2010 6:40 AM | Report abuse

Portis had a few good reuns yesterday, but I still think he's done...he looks like he doesn't wanna play football anymore.

Posted by: rickyroge | October 4, 2010 6:39 AM


Dude, are you kidding me? CP got 5 yards a carry and turned back the clock with a nice series of jukes and cuts on that 13 yard dumpoff early in the game. I'm not saying he's due for a Tomlinson-esque renaissance, per se...just sayin' that his demise is a bit exaggerated considering the problems with ground game had more to do with the O-line than the backs.

My question isn't whether CP can still play...it's whether he can stay healthy enough to be effective.

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 4, 2010 6:50 AM | Report abuse


At least Heyer didn't cost us the game..

Heyer is a reflection of our weak depth chart at o-line, one that should be shored up within a couple years.

Posted by: hessone | October 4, 2010 6:52 AM | Report abuse

It will get better, but we still are lacking that 2nd receiver. If Davis catches that dropped ball I think McNabb's day would have been a lot better, it just set the tone.

By the way I think that missed opportunity was on Davis.

Posted by: alex35332 | October 4, 2010 6:56 AM | Report abuse

What is Fed up about the NFL..
Kansas City is the last unbeaten team.

Posted by: alex35332 | October 4, 2010 7:04 AM | Report abuse

A win is a win, but...

McNabb looked horrible in the second half, could not even complete the 8 yard dump passes. His 18 yard run was the sole exception but then he boneheads the play by going out of bounds instead of using up another 30 seconds by staying in bounds.

Portis looked lively in the first half and Torain was very, very good. How nice to see a running game that does not go to pieces on the first defender encountered.

Heyer is not just bad, he is worthless, little more than a warm body out there. That 5 yard false start came at the worst time--right when it was second and 3 with a running game clicking on the final milk the clock drive.

But a win is a win.

Posted by: driley | October 4, 2010 7:06 AM | Report abuse

By the way I think that missed opportunity was on Davis.

Posted by: alex35332 | October 4, 2010 6:56 AM


Agreed...dude has to judge the ball in flight better and make the appropriate adjustment. He was so open he could've made a fair catch for cripe's sakes...

driley, you can't have it both ways...don't say "a win is a win" and then nitpick the performance to death. It's the NFC East...style points are out the window. Rarely are these games pretty...you just hope you make more plays than your opponent and yesterday that's exactly what we did. Bottom line: we're 2-0 in the NFC East after going winless last year. We're in MUCH better shape today than we were two weeks ago.

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 4, 2010 7:18 AM | Report abuse

I would say Hyer played well against Trent Cole, however his mental mistakes are killing us. He has been in the league to long to make those mistakes, he is OK as a backup though.

Posted by: Flounder21 | October 4, 2010 7:19 AM | Report abuse

Do we need to bring Hunter Smith back? Longwell was terrible.

Orakpo would have 8-10 sacks this year if he didn't get held every other play.

Carlos Rogers hands are pure concrete.

Posted by: saltine182


Rogers? Correct; Inexcusable
Orakpo does seem to be held alot and not called doesn't it?
Actually our punter is not Longwell but Bidwell.
Good Day to you.

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | October 4, 2010 7:28 AM | Report abuse

Keim's Quick Thoughts:

1. Jim Haslett adjusted. The Redskins are not equipped right now to be a blitz-happy team. It looks great and it’s fun to play. But when you’re giving up big plays and the coverage is bad, then it’s a problem. So the Redskins opted for a less aggressive, and smarter, approach. They used a lot of cover-2 zones, especially in the second half, as they forced a team that wants to make big plays to be patient and work it downfield. They still used a number of looks, sometimes using Andre Carter as an end; Lorenzo Alexander as a tackle and Albert Haynesworth as a one-man front. But they almost always only rushed four guys with an occasional fifth. It helped that Alexander can play in space; it enables him to jam receivers and make plays when in one-on-one situations. And did you see his diving tipped pass on the two-point conversion? That just showed his athleticism; Alexander needs to keep starting. His ability to react laterally sets him apart from Carter. The Redskins used their personnel wisely in this game, getting Chris Wilson in a bit more just for the speed.
2. Pressure with four. But the only way that strategy can work is if they’re applying pressure with four guys. They were doing just that; Brian Orakpo drew two holding penalties while Albert Haynesworth and Carter both drew one. Haynesworth was more of a force than at any other point this season. He actually looked engaged in the game. He needs to play more if the Redskins are going to have any sort of consistent success. Thought that this summer; think it now. The Redskins were able to get him in one-on-one situations and that’s when the flags fly or plays are made. It was also good to see Carter at end. He’s not a linebacker. Why pretend anymore? Devise more situations where his hand is in the ground as a rusher. Anyway, back to rushing four. You can’t stop big plays downfield with just one safety; at least not consistently. And, for this game, with LaRon Landry and Kareem Moore often both deep, that’s a lot of speed to contend with for a quarterback. Heck, at times it did not seem as if Kevin Kolb was even looking downfield. He was more anxious to dump the ball off, knowing pressure was coming and guys weren’t breaking free. The one time he had a guy open on a corner route, he threw too wide. He had no rhythm for the deep ball. It helped that Michael Vick was out; he might have softened the coverage with his runs. But would he have been able to stay patient? It had an impact, but not sure it caused the loss.

more...

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 4, 2010 7:40 AM | Report abuse

continued...

3. Attacking the edges works. This was not the sort of running game Washington will use all the time, but the Eagles were weaker on the edges because their corners are not very good in run support and when they bring a safety down, they’re leaving the outside open. I’m curious to see how many of their runs went outside, but it was a large amount. It helped that they used a lot of two tight end sets; I like Chris Cooley as a blocker. And the wideouts, including Joey Galloway, had a solid game blocking. The offense also kept Philly off-balance early; they were motioning one way and going another and taking advantage of an aggressive defense. It also helped take some pressure off Will Montgomery at RG. He’s not very good there – it’s not a natural spot for him. But the scheme sort of prevented him out from doing much damage.
4. They played physical. Obviously a couple plays stood out early on, starting with Ryan Torain’s 12-yard touchdown run in which he ran over safety Quintin Mikell and then on the ensuing kickoff Alexander drilled the returner. When plays like that occur, it sends a message to the other team. But it also energized Washington’s sideline unlike any other time I’d seen this year. They were into it right away and delivering the punches. Philadelphia did not react accordingly. It took a long time for its sideline to show the same sort of enthusiasm. Does that matter? Sure. After a tough loss followed by an ugly loss to have two such plays so early set a major, major tone. The physical play extended to the Eagles’ receivers. They jammed the receivers, sometimes with corners and other times with linebackers. These receivers want no part of physical play. Did you see DeSean Jackson pull up on a pass near Landry late? Landry noticed. When you send messages, some guys have long memories. And this has nothing to do with being physical, but I’m running out of space so I’ll say it here: nice job with Brandon Banks. The kid made a difference. He is smart; he lets his blocks set up, takes a quick survey and then hits it. Because he can get to a high speed right away, he can get away with being a bit more patient.

more...

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 4, 2010 7:42 AM | Report abuse

continued...

5. Donovan’s shaky return. Donovan McNabb had an up-and-down day in his return, starting strong with six completions in his first eight passes. But he had just two completions in his final 11 throws, and had just 10 yards passing in the second half. McNabb left a lot of plays on the field, missing a wide-open Fred Davis in the first quarter (though Davis might have been able to make a circus catch). And near the goal-line in one series, McNabb tucked the ball and ran too soon. Had he been a second more patient, he would have had another touchdown pass to Roydell Williams breaking free in the middle of the end zone. Actually, Williams broke open before McNabb tucked the ball. He should have seen him. But McNabb still made plays when needed, mostly with his legs. His 18-yard scramble on third and four in the fourth quarter was huge. He had some inaccurate throws, some of which drew hoots from the crowd (yes, hoots), but were really caused by good pressure. He also had some inexplicable throws. In other words, a normal day for him in Philly.

Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/sports/blogs/redskins-confidential/Five-quick-thoughts-Redskins-17-Eagles-12-104252948.html#ixzz11OCvNFge

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 4, 2010 7:43 AM | Report abuse

Strong Point, here:

"Skins being outscored 52-13 in 2nd half. That wont get it done."

The win is great.

But there is a trend where the offense goes into an ineffective spiral in the 3rd quarter.

Teams press the receivers in passing situations, and run-blitz the edges to shut down the 'zone-stretch' running play.

The pressure forces McNabb into bad throws, and the offense into quick 3 and outs.

Someone, from somewhere, a receiver must be found who can beat coverage or the offense must create some way of attacking the spaces behind defense determined to blitz.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 4, 2010 7:52 AM | Report abuse

Armstrong can't get behind the secondary. MCNabb just needs to keep his throws inbounds. Try that pass down the middle of the field.

Posted by: FedorEm | October 4, 2010 8:00 AM | Report abuse

Armstrong can get behind the secondary. MCNabb just needs to keep his throws inbounds. Try that pass down the middle of the field.

Posted by: FedorEm | October 4, 2010 8:00 AM | Report abuse

-CP's demise was greatly exaggerated. I knew he had at least a little something left in the tank, dude just needed the O-line to open some holes. That was apparent on Sunday.

-Get Hunter the Punter back in burgundy and gold. Bidwell looked like crap yesterday and I'm always leery of a guy who gets hurt a lot and doesn't play a position that involves, you know, CONTACT. Make a move on the obvious upgrade before it's too late.

-I knew this defense wasn't as bad as it looked the two games prior. All we heard about all week was about Vick and the tons of weapons he had and how the Redskins had no answers. Looked to me like they had plenty of answers since neither of those speedy WRs was a factor and Kolb was the checkdown king when he got in the game.

-Not sure what happened to DMac in the 2nd half, but I was hoping he'd play better in his return to Philly. I'm sure he's just fine getting the win even though he didn't exactly showcase himself against the team that quit on him, but the irony is sweet that the Eagles' QB position is in flux now that he's gone.

-Brandon Banks looked good and showed why he needs to be on this roster. He's a threat to go the distance whenever he touches it and was a couple shoestring tackles from having a huge day. Not to say "I told ya so", but...I bloody well told ya so...

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 4, 2010 5:20 AM | Report abuse


-CP is done as a primary ball-carrier. This is the first game of the year that he put his head down and tried to finish runs instead of curling...and what happened? He had to leave a couple times for injury subs and eventually got knocked out of the game. The key criticism of CP is his protect-me running style that shies away from contact. Yesterday did nothing to quash that concern. He'll be a fine 3rd down back, but the Torain Train should be getting the ball on 1st/2nd downs.

-Bidwell sucks. How do you "pop" something in your hip and then expect to come back and play well?

-Defense looked good b/c they are getting back to more 4-3 looks and that has helped AH get into the game. Yesterday he was a seriously disruptive force. Stat sheet aside, he drew some penalties and collapsed the pocket several times.

-2nd half is a problem for this whole team; not just Dmac. Whatever seems to "work" for this team in 1st half disappears in 2nd half. Coaching.

-Brandon Banks. If they're gonna put him on the 53, then they better darn well use him.

Posted by: p1funk | October 4, 2010 8:09 AM | Report abuse

McNabb left a lot of plays on the field, missing a wide-open Fred Davis in the first quarter (though Davis might have been able to make a circus catch).

Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/sports/blogs/redskins-confidential/Five-quick-thoughts-Redskins-17-Eagles-12-104252948.html#ixzz11OCvNFge

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 4, 2010 7:43 AM | Report abuse


Keim's got that one wrong.

The throw was there. Instead of keeping in stride and catching the ball over his shoulder, Davis stopped and turned his body and tried to jump for it. That one was on Davis.

Posted by: p1funk | October 4, 2010 8:12 AM | Report abuse

driley, you can't have it both ways...don't say "a win is a win" and then nitpick the performance to death. It's the NFC East...style points are out the window.

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 4, 2010 7:18 AM

In other words, when brownwood criticizes Heyer it's the truth. When driley criticizes Heyer, then driley has jumped off sides. Five yard penalty on driley.

Posted by: beep-beep | October 4, 2010 8:12 AM | Report abuse

How great was that end-of-game scramble by Donovan McNabb on 3rd down to keep the chains moving?

How many times has he kicked the Skins in the nads with those kinds of drive-saving scrambles over the past dozen years?

Now he's doing it FOR the Skins AGAINST Philly.

Sweet.

Posted by: p1funk | October 4, 2010 8:15 AM | Report abuse

-2nd half is a problem for this whole team; not just Dmac. Whatever seems to "work" for this team in 1st half disappears in 2nd half. Coaching.

Posted by: p1funk | October 4, 2010 8:09 AM

Been that way for three successive coaches. Players.

Posted by: beep-beep | October 4, 2010 8:18 AM | Report abuse

They need to sit Rogers down, show him the replay of that dropped INT and say:

"THAT is why you will not be paid like a #1 CB."

Posted by: p1funk | October 4, 2010 8:18 AM | Report abuse

-2nd half is a problem for this whole team; not just Dmac. Whatever seems to "work" for this team in 1st half disappears in 2nd half. Coaching.

Posted by: p1funk | October 4, 2010 8:09 AM

Been that way for three successive coaches. Players.

Posted by: beep-beep | October 4, 2010 8:18 AM | Report abuse


Or:

3 successive coaches failing to make good half-time adjustments.

Posted by: p1funk | October 4, 2010 8:21 AM | Report abuse

They need to sit Rogers down, show him the replay of that dropped INT and say:

"THAT is why you will not be paid like a #1 CB."

Posted by: p1funk | October 4, 2010 8:18 AM

And then what? Do you think he's not aware of that?

Posted by: beep-beep | October 4, 2010 8:21 AM | Report abuse

CP is done as a primary ball-carrier.


Transitioning from a CP based running attack to a RTorain based running attack is just another part of the series of changes the team will have to go through.

RTorain follows his blocking, then explodes to space with power: he's Ladell Betts with youth and the same number.

Portis isn't a power guy, so he must have a 'burst to daylight' to be a keeper.

And he just doesn't seem to have it anymore, even after an offseason where he a rededicated himself to training.

The team should continue working them as a tandem as, in all honesty, a 2 game sample of RTorain doesn't compare to CP 8 year career.

However, at some point in the second half of the season, the biggest change in the offense just might be RTorain becoming a starter, and CP admitting that, "Hey, I'm just an employee."

And this change might just be for the better.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 4, 2010 8:23 AM | Report abuse

a win is a win, and especially a division win, but couple of things concerned me:

the offensive game plans have been atrocious the last 2 games...thats gotta change in order for this team to be successful...when BBanks/Sellers have more catches than Cooley/Moss/Davis, thats a HUGE problem. Get the last 3 involved early, and it opens up the running game...

This game reminded me of the Gibbs II era type games where they'd get a lead then sit on it, and get into a field position/punting battle...Shanny needs to go for the throat...again, the play calling in the 2nd half was bogus...great they got the running game going, but they were a JAvant drop from losing this game...

Carlos Rogers, all tackle, no catch...gotta, just gotta make that INT to end the game..Aikman nailed it, when he said thats kind of been his thing throughout his career..


Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 4, 2010 8:23 AM | Report abuse

They need to sit Rogers down, show him the replay of that dropped INT and say:

"THAT is why you will not be paid like a #1 CB."

Posted by: p1funk | October 4, 2010 8:18 AM

And then what? Do you think he's not aware of that?

Posted by: beep-beep | October 4, 2010 8:21 AM | Report abuse


Then you ask him to leave your office.

No. I don't think he's aware of that. If he were, he wouldn't have been making a giant stink in the offseason about getting paid like a #1 CB.

Posted by: p1funk | October 4, 2010 8:24 AM | Report abuse

Carlos Rogers = NERD who's dropped 3 game clinching interceptions this year!

Posted by: monk811 | October 4, 2010 8:25 AM | Report abuse

How great was that end-of-game scramble by Donovan McNabb on 3rd down to keep the chains moving?

the one where he ran out of bounds and stopped the clock with under 4 minute left in the game?? was that the run you're talking about?? the run itself was great, but bone-headed running out of bounds...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 4, 2010 8:27 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 4, 2010 8:23 AM | Report abuse

Agreed in general, though I think the Torain comparison to Betts is off.

True, betts was a little bigger than CP, but he was far from a power-runner. He never moved tacklers/piles and didn't have a great nose for short yardage. But he was a better pass-catcher.

If anything Torain reminds me of a really really broke man's Terrell Davis.

Big runner, with a little bit pop in his step. He's not blazing fast in the open field, but once he gets downhill he's gonna run through arm tackles and deliver a hit.

Posted by: p1funk | October 4, 2010 8:28 AM | Report abuse

Last year we got off to a slow start in games, and seemed to continue the suckiness in the 2nd half.
This year, we at least get off to a fast start, but STILL suck in the 2nd half. If we're gonna continue this ineptitude in the 2nd half, we've gotta score more points in the 1st half. 30 or more sounds good!!!

Posted by: monk811 | October 4, 2010 8:29 AM | Report abuse

Jay Cutler just got sacked again....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 4, 2010 8:30 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 4, 2010 8:27 AM | Report abuse

Yes, Bean, I meant the first part of the run; not the last part.

I think DMac was so ecstatic about making the play that he forgot about the clock situation.

Posted by: p1funk | October 4, 2010 8:31 AM | Report abuse

Carlos Rogers = NERD who's dropped 3 game clinching interceptions this year!

Posted by: monk811 | October 4, 2010 8:25 AM

Good morning monk...aren't you happy that I had you change your prediction? haha

Oh...and McNabb had more rushing yards than Vick...and the skins won.

Posted by: PlayAction | October 4, 2010 8:32 AM | Report abuse

monk agreed, so far through 1/4 of the season Kyle hasn't impressed me...he's yet to put together a full game plan...there seems to be no 'counter move' once defenses have started to figure this team out....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 4, 2010 8:34 AM | Report abuse

beeps

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 4, 2010 8:36 AM | Report abuse

Jay Cutler just got sacked again....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 4, 2010 8:30 AM | Report abuse


The way he loafed in the pocket and just waited to get sacked was Campbell-esque.

The way Todd Collins came into the game and didn't do much was...Collins-esque (Todd Collins from last year, mind you. Not from the year when he took us to the playoffs).

Posted by: p1funk | October 4, 2010 8:36 AM | Report abuse

How great was that end-of-game scramble by Donovan McNabb on 3rd down to keep the chains moving?

How many times has he kicked the Skins in the nads with those kinds of drive-saving scrambles over the past dozen years?

Now he's doing it FOR the Skins AGAINST Philly.

Sweet.

Posted by: p1funk | October 4, 2010 8:15 AM

Great play but he has to stay in bounds. Inexcusable that he didn't.

If you beat the teams in your division, you go to the playoffs. McNabb is 2-0. Last year, Eagle fans blamed him for the losses to Dallas. What does he do in response? He beats Dallas in a new system, then beats the team who blamed him.

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 4, 2010 8:44 AM | Report abuse

First, let me say that I like any win, even if it is a nail biter at the end. Second, there are some things to work on...

-I like the play from Haynesworth but he was on the ground a lot yesterday. A defensive lineman needs to keep his feet and this is something that needs to be worked on.

-Still waiting for that second receiver to emerge. Armstrong got one deep and caught another deep on out of bounds. He can be a deep threat, but the team needs the intermediate stuff from him as well. He and Galloway's lack of production led to SM's catchless day. Roydell continues to underwhelm. Isn't there anyone better out there in free agent land? What about that kid, Adrian Arrington, that the Saints let go last week?

-The tight ends went invisible again during the second half. Actually, they are doing a great job run blocking, but how about sneaking these guys out a little more? No threat at the second receiver spot and you don't throw more to your tight ends that can catch the ball? Loved the touchdown reception by Cooley - should see more of that.

-Quinn Ojinnaka. He was released by the Patriots last week and is a tackle that could fit with this offense. He went to nearby DeMatha HS, so there is a local tie to look at, as well. Heyer has done better than I thought he would starting in place of Trent Williams, but we could change his name to "Jumpy" with all of the false starts he gets penalized for. The Redskins need more depth and Ojinnaka has starter experience.

-The team needs to either get Chad Simpson some carries, re-sign KW, or find another capable running back out there, because CP's groin is probably going to hobble him for awhile.

And just a few other notes:

-Keep Lorenzo Alexander on the field as much as possible. He sets the tone and the dude is really pretty fast for a big guy.

-Really, really liked the Torain touchdown run. That's what happens when a running back keeps his head up (are you taking notes, CP?), keeps his legs churning, and finishes the run. According to many posters on here, Torain should have fallen down short of the end zone before the safety hit him - for ball security reasons...(sorry, I had to take a shot)

Posted by: RedSkinHead | October 4, 2010 8:44 AM | Report abuse

"If we're gonna continue this ineptitude in the 2nd half, we've gotta score more points in the 1st half. 30 or more sounds good!"


If anything, a 3rd quarter touchdown and long drive would do wonders for this team.

The drive would keep the other team's offense off the field, and another score 'salt' away whatever lead we may have.

A long drive/score in either the rams/texans games, and we keep Bradford off the field or don't allow M Scahub enough time to hit A Johnson at the end of the contest.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 4, 2010 9:00 AM | Report abuse

...... He also had some inexplicable throws. In other words, a normal day for him in Philly.

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 4, 2010 7:43 AM | Report abuse

Brown, a bit late, but wanted to comment on your points made. Right on the money. It seemed in the second half that Philly started sending more rushers and it rattled McNabb. I can't wait for T Williams to get back. I think the offense has taken a step back since he went down in the middle of the Hou game.
I was shocked at the improved running game. I posted after the Hou game that CP was done and had no burst. Well I was wrong. He runs hard and is a tough SOB and had some nice runs yesterday, but he still doesn't break many tackles. It was refreshing to see Torain pounding and getting extra yards after contact. Kudos to you and/or Greg (et al..) for suggesting that Torain get some action.
Love the defensive adjustments. We don't have the personnel for the D Has wants to run.
Love Banks, and would like to see an expanded role for him in time on the offense. Having said that, he scares the bejesus out of me that he is going to A) fumble, or B) get hammered into next week. But his speed makes him a difference maker, similar to Jamal Lewis did for the Ravens back in the day.

Agree with your main point on the D that they are putting people in the right positions to best succeed. Depth will be an issue at some point as you see when K Moore is out. Thanks Vinny.
For now, HTTR!!

Posted by: mj25 | October 4, 2010 10:27 AM | Report abuse

Someone else might have mentioned this, but it occurs to me that in trading Donovan to the Redskins, the Eagles basically said, "we think so little of you (the Redskins) as opponents, that even with McNabb, you'll never be able to beat us." What an amazingly disrespectful act. They might as well have taken out an ad in the Post explaining, "We can always count on at least 2 wins every year... playing the Redskins." I think the entire division has looked at the Redskins games as guaranteed wins, for years. In the past the Redskins, themselves, may have entered those games thinking they would lose. But the wins against the Cowboys and Eagles demonstrate that this could be changing. Even for all of their mistakes (penalties at the worst of times for example) this year's team won't always crack at the end. They were tougher mentally and more physical than in the recent past. It was nice to see and I hope it continues.

Posted by: johnptx | October 4, 2010 10:50 AM | Report abuse

If Carlos Rogers could ever learn to catch the football the Redskins would have these games over long before the final play.

That's TWICE now that he's had the ball in the fourth quarter in his hands with a chance to either score or to get the Skins field position on the other side of the 50 and he has failed to do so.

Posted by: RoyHobbs4 | October 4, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

If Carlos Rogers could ever learn to catch the football the Redskins would have these games over long before the final play.

That's TWICE now that he's had the ball in the fourth quarter in his hands with a chance to either score or to get the Skins field position on the other side of the 50 and he has failed to do so.

Posted by: RoyHobbs4 | October 4, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse


This team sucks but at least they're winning while they learn and get better. I think this is the part of the season where reality rears its head.

Posted by: ahwyatt | October 4, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

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