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Shanahan: McNabb's injuries contributed to benching

Redskins Coach Mike Shanahan said Monday that Donovan McNabb's lingering injuries played a role in the coach's decision to bench his starting quarterback Sunday.

Shanahan told reporters that he met with McNabb Monday morning at Redskins Park. It was a good discussion, he said, but "I don't go through our conversations" publicly.

As for McNabb's long-term future in Washington, Shanahan indicated that Sunday's game is not indicative of the organization's plans for McNabb. Shanahan and General Manager Bruce Allen have said repeatedly that they'd like to extend McNabb's contract.

"We all know Donovan is a franchise quarterback. ... Obviously there's negotiations that go on with both sides," Shanahan said. "Time will tell, as it does with all our players."

Shanahan said he met with McNabb last Tuesday to discuss the quarterback's various injuries - sore hamstrings and a shin contusion among them - and asked McNabb whether he was healthy enouugh to play at Detroit.

"He's a warrior and wants to go," Shanahan said.

But McNabb wasn't able to fully practice and Shanahan said that from a "cardiovascular standpoint," McNabb couldn't handle the fast-paced two-minute offense.

Shanahan said he decided before Sunday's game that while he would start McNabb, he'd use Rex Grossman if the Redskins encountered a scenario in which they had no timeouts and had to move the length of the field in a hurry.

Shanahan defended his decision to bench McNabb and said given the opportunity to do it over again, he'd still go with Grossman.

With the Redskins trailing by six points and only 1:50 remaining in the game, Shanahan made the decision to replace McNabb with Grossman, who hadn't taken a single snap this season. Shanahan said after the game, "I thought that was the best scenario for us to have a chance to win."

He explained that Grossman was more comfortable with the terminology of the offense and could better execute the two-minute offense. He said immediately following the game that McNabb was healthy enough to continue.

Grossman fumbled the ball on a sack and Lions rookie Ndamukong Suh recovered the ball and returned it for a touchdown.

Shanahan said that because of lingering injuries, McNabb hadn't run the two-minute offense in a game since the Redskins faced St. Louis. In fact, they hadn't even run it in practice since then.

He said Grossman hadn't practiced it either, but he praised his No. 2 quarterback for being in shape and said that Grossman was familiar with the two-minute offense, having served as Houston's backup last year. Kyle Shanahan was the Texans' offensive coordinator there at the time.

"If I thought it was the best situation to do, Donovan would've obviously run the two-minute offense," Shanahan said, defending his decision.

Shanahan said he's not worried about losing his locker room, saying that players know that he's only doing what he feels is best for his football team.

As the Redskins enter the bye week, Shanahan knows plenty of work needs to be done.

"I'm not happy with where we're at offensively," he said. "As I told Donovan, I said, 'Hey, you got a ways to go. Our offensive line has a ways to go. Our receivers - collectively, as a coaching staff - we're not happy with where we're at. ...We're all accountable, starting with me. Hopefully, we'll get there."

At the season's midpoint, McNabb is the NFL's 25th-ranked passer with a 76.0 quarterback rating. He's averaging 246.4 yards per game (No. 11 in the NFL) and has seven touchdowns (No. 23) and eight interceptions (seventh-most in the league).

By Rick Maese  | November 1, 2010; 4:05 PM ET
Categories:  Donovan McNabb, Mike Shanahan  
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Posted by: cabreram2000 | November 1, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Details Lost in the McNabb Benching Hubbub

---Brandon Banks is a stellar return guy

(Remember when folks complained that he might fumble?)

---Albert Haynesworth played almost as good as N Suh.

(I guess the work from the conditioning drill has kicked in)

---Ryan Torain's hamstring injury continues doubt about his viability as a starter due to his injury history.

(What, there's Quinton Ganther to found to back him up?)

--DeAngelo Hall had another INT

(And Jay Cutler still throwing in his direction no matter what.)

--LaRon Landry is the new "Lights Out".

(And somewhere, Shawn Merriman is getting a tattoo that reads "Been Turned Off")

--the skins are 2-1 against the NFC North

(Yes, but like every other ACC team, they fold when the pressure's on. Maybe we should move to the Big East.)

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 1, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

not that he's been a "value" guy for most of his time here, but at least we've got 1 that SI thinks is a value guy

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/1010/nfl-all-value-team/content.11.html

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 1, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Nothing Like the Obvious:

Our offensive line as a ways to go. Our receivers - collectively, as a coaching staff - we're not happy with where we're at...


An early indication that we're drafting lineman and receivers, folks?

Sounds like it.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 1, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Cardiovascularly, are u kidding me? At least, he's doing damage control. Spin spin spin.

Where we're at?? Nice English. Your a coach.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | November 1, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Cowboys grab Randy Moss?

Posted by: zjfr2 | November 1, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Ridiculous...if people would stop fretting about McNabb's passer rating and look at the won/loss column, they'd see it doesn't matter.

Big Ben's passer rating in '08 when they won the SB? 80.1.

Terry Bradshaw's rating for his career? 70.9...which is worse than Kordell Stewart's.

John Elway's QB rating his first year playing for Shanahan (when he was OC in Denver...not HC)? 70.2.

Point is, this is halftime of Year 1. You don't learn a new offense overnight. We're winning games while he's working out the kinks. Everyone should stop freaking out about this and let this thing play out...

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 1, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

WOW!!!

A day later he's still too proud to admit he was wrong.

Sad to say but we're going to be looking for another head coach very soon. He's got too big an ego for not having done anything in 10 years.

Posted by: 6-2StackMonster | November 1, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

The locker room will be fine, no one in that locker room has won crap for the Skins so if they don't like the new way then they will be gone.

If the players running the show was working they wouldn't have been 4-12 last year.

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 1, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

repost ... worth seeing if you didn't see it earlier

Went to the Sharks game on Sat night, check out this hit by Douglas Murray. Note the ref helping the player ... the ref actually helped him skate all the way back to bench while play continued.

http://video.sharks.nhl.com/videocenter/console

the hit is just past the 5 minute mark

Later in the game, one of the Ducks decided to fight Murray. You can probably figure out if that was good idea without having seen the fight ...

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 1, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

OK, that was the most confusing presser I have heard in a while

Coach: I decided before the game that Rex would play in full field 2 min drill situation.

Obvious question: why didn't you tell either of the players involved?

Coach: Donovan hadn't practiced 2-min for 5 weeks due to lingering injuries.

Obvious question: why didn't you prepare the team for the situation by practicing it with Rex this week, or anytime over the last 5 weeks when Donovan was taking a breather in practice apparently.

Coach: We felt like Rex was more familiar with the terminology.

Obvious question (asked but not really answered): is Donovan a bad student, you a bad teacher, or is 6 months not enough time to learn the terminology of 2 min drill

Obvious question 2: why in the world would you have a separate terminology for 2 minute drill? Shades of the 700-page playbook.

Coach: I didn't mention that Donovan's lack of conditioning was an issue at the presser yesterday because I didn't have time.

Obvious question: really? Was your flight leaving or something? And why was his conditioning not an issue for the 1st 58 minutes / 97% of the game?

Posted by: zornskins2 | November 1, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Yeah I thought banks was going to fumble before he scored, I didn't give him the Benny if the doubt because I trust zorn-a-Han.

But we're 4-4 and 2-0 in the divvy.

Good news, we won't spend the next 2. Weeks talking about super bowls.

Theory: we're saving dockery for the super bowl

hoping portis and dockery come back an run left

Posted by: pabrian2003 | November 1, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Terrible terrible terrible idea. Should we do the exact thing that hasn't worked for the last decade? And, 80% vote yes. What a bunch of idiots.

The definition of insanity

Posted by: pabrian2003 | November 1, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse
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Baloney. The issue with big name players in the past was money and picks. They don't give up any picks in picking up Moss, and they need a receiver with size desperately.

There really isn't anything to lose in picking him up...they can always cut him if he slacks.

Posted by: shaunsherman12 | November 1, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: shaunsherman12 | November 1, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Randy Moss will be a Redskin. Book it.

Donovan McNabb will throw at his feet. Book it.

Posted by: Original_etrod | November 1, 2010 4:40 PM | Report abuse

WOW!!!

A day later he's still too proud to admit he was wrong.

Sad to say but we're going to be looking for another head coach very soon. He's got too big an ego for not having done anything in 10 years.

Posted by: 6-2StackMonster | November 1, 2010 4:30 PM |

So in your opinion Shanny only gets 7 games to fix 10 years of terrible management. What an idiot you are.

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 1, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: zornskins2

Obvious question, would you bench Garcon and Andre Johnson, just so I have a chance in our FF game this week? Being the gracious sportsman you are ...

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 1, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

...hate to paste, but when webmeister is censorin', anything goes:

If someone claims Moss before the Skins can, so be it...But Shanahan will rue the day he allowed Big Randy to slip from his claim-able hands with McNabb in the cockpit...Lets see Montgomery at Center and Dockery back in dock, also..Rabach killed us Sunday...

Posted by: frak

Posted by: frak | November 1, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

i thought the o line was supposed to be improved?
i also thought they had a d?
wrong on both i guess, my bad...

Posted by: derek1992 | November 1, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Moss will never make it past the Chargers, so we might as well shelve the Moss debate

Posted by: mattsoundworld | November 1, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

i thought the o line was supposed to be improved?
i also thought they had a d?
wrong on both i guess, my bad...

Posted by: derek1992 | November 1, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

i thought the o line was supposed to be improved?
i also thought they had a d?
wrong on both i guess, my bad...

Posted by: derek1992 | November 1, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Moss will never make it past the Chargers, so we might as well shelve the Moss debate

Posted by: mattsoundworld | November 1, 2010 4:46 PM

Chargers? He won't make it past the Buffalo Bills.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 1, 2010 4:49 PM | Report abuse

"We all know Donovan is a franchise quarterback. ... Obviously there's negotiations that go on with both sides," Shanahan said. "Time will tell, as it does with all our players."

sounds like shanny has a lucrative contract in the works for don burgundy and everyone else is on watch... playing for their jobs!!!

Posted by: jimmy_the_crickett | November 1, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Chargers? He won't make it past the Buffalo Bills.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 1, 2010 4:49 PM | Report abuse

After TO, they're not in the Diva WR business anymore.

Posted by: Devo2 | November 1, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Chargers won't get Moss. They have to pay $$ and after they screw'd over Vincent Jackson, they won't touch Moss. Plus, I doubt Moss has any respect for Norv. After all, NE has owned them over the years

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 1, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

What a load of BS..."cardiovascular standpoint"!

McNabb was running for his life the whole game...his cardiovascular fitness seemed fine after his big scramble that led to a TD pass to Torain in the early in the 2nd qtr. Plus he led the Skins to 2 FG at the end of the half (2 minute type scenario). I didn;t see Grossman warming up then.

I like Shanahan, but don't treat the fans as idiots. Tell us the real reason he benched him or don't say anything at all.

Posted by: carter6 | November 1, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Chargers? He won't make it past the Buffalo Bills.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 1, 2010 4:49 PM

Why would Buffalo, a team with no chance of going to the playoffs sign Randy Moss? No chance he is there next season, so spending $3+mil when they are going nowhere does not make sense.

Posted by: kerzon417 | November 1, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan's got a better back peddle than Carlos Rogers.

Yeah that's the ticket...McNabb was injured..no wait, he had cardio issues..

Meanwhile, based on his practice time, Grossman couldn't walk from here to the bar without getting winded.

The OLIne is dinged up. Team can't run, because runners can't run, and line can't block. Can't pass because line can't block and runners can't run and receivers can't get open.

Where's this week's Fred Davis is God apologists?

Posted by: TheCork | November 1, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

WOW!!!

A day later he's still too proud to admit he was wrong.

Sad to say but we're going to be looking for another head coach very soon. He's got too big an ego for not having done anything in 10 years.

Posted by: 6-2StackMonster | November 1, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

That's an idiotic statement. While yes his presser sounded just as mystifying as yesterday (listened to it live). He's still had 2 losing seasons in his career as a coach, has a team that was a wasteland at .500 and right in the hunt for the playoffs at the bye week while dealing with injuries on a very thin oline that he put together with glue and paste after 10 years of it being ignored. He's found at the very least a capable young backup rb in Torain, a lightning fast returner in Banks, a deep threat receiver Armstrong that is miscast as a #2 but will be a solid 3 or 4 for a couple of years, and created a defense that leads the league in forcing turnovers. We need more olineman, we need at least one more real receiver, and we still could use a legit FS, we're a long way from perfect. But Shanny in one season has taken us from a weekly blundering joke to a legit team, stop overacting to one bad decision. And yes, it was a really bad decision, but listening to him he seemed genuinely unsure if Donovan was even going to play this game, perhaps he really was worried that he couldn't physically get it done. Even the way McNabb has played the last 4 weeks I don't blame him for being unhappy with the QB, but it was the wrong call the way he did it, IMO if he was that worried he should have just sat McNabb for the game and let Grossman play, then Donavon could have had 3 weeks to get healthy for a stretch run. Regardless, I'm happier with the state of the Skins now than at any point the last 5 years.....still, and I still trust Shanny despite a very bad decision.

Posted by: zjfr2 | November 1, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

McNabb wasn't ready from a "cardiovascular standpoint" to run the two-minute drill?? Considering he spent 90% of the game running for his life, McNabb seemed in pretty good shape to me. Of course it's possible he had a few internal organs in the wrong place from being pile driven into the turf all day.

Makes no sense to me.

Posted by: EKruse | November 1, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

So the coach is so concerned about McNabb's injuries, he lets him play for all but the last 2 minutes??? B-U-L-L!!

Posted by: OHREALLYNOW | November 1, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

WOW!!!

A day later he's still too proud to admit he was wrong.

Sad to say but we're going to be looking for another head coach very soon. He's got too big an ego for not having done anything in 10 years.

Posted by: 6-2StackMonster | November 1, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

That's an idiotic statement. While yes his presser sounded just as mystifying as yesterday (listened to it live). He's still had 2 losing seasons in his career as a coach, has a team that was a wasteland at .500 and right in the hunt for the playoffs at the bye week while dealing with injuries on a very thin oline that he put together with glue and paste after 10 years of it being ignored. He's found at the very least a capable young backup rb in Torain, a lightning fast returner in Banks, a deep threat receiver Armstrong that is miscast as a #2 but will be a solid 3 or 4 for a couple of years, and created a defense that leads the league in forcing turnovers. We need more olineman, we need at least one more real receiver, and we still could use a legit FS, we're a long way from perfect. But Shanny in one season has taken us from a weekly blundering joke to a legit team, stop overacting to one bad decision. And yes, it was a really bad decision, but listening to him he seemed genuinely unsure if Donovan was even going to play this game, perhaps he really was worried that he couldn't physically get it done. Even the way McNabb has played the last 4 weeks I don't blame him for being unhappy with the QB, but it was the wrong call the way he did it, IMO if he was that worried he should have just sat McNabb for the game and let Grossman play, then Donavon could have had 3 weeks to get healthy for a stretch run. Regardless, I'm happier with the state of the Skins now than at any point the last 5 years.....still, and I still trust Shanny despite a very bad decision.

Posted by: zjfr2 | November 1, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Normally I would be against signing Randy Moss, but I see no reason not to in this situation. The fact that the Vikings still have to pick up the tab for his guaranteed salary for this season has a lot to do with my thinking this would be a good idea. He almost certainly would be an upgrade over Galloway, who clearly doesn't scare any defenses anymore. R. Moss, S. Moss, Cooley, and Armstrong on the field together would create match-up problems for any defense.

Hovever, Picking up R. Moss doesn't do anything to help solve our bigest problem, which continues to be the O-line. I said it before the game, and I'll say it again; we are sill dealing with the aftermath of Vinny's neglect of the line. There was too much wrong there to fix in one year. We will continue to have to struggle along for the rest of this season. As long as the front office continues to make the O-line a priority, we will be more sucessfull in the future.

Let's not freak out about the season just yet. We're exactly on pace for the 8-8 season that most of us predicted. The coaches have two full weeks to get everyone back on the same page for our next game against Philly.

Posted by: kaasmaster | November 1, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Why would Buffalo, a team with no chance of going to the playoffs sign Randy Moss? No chance he is there next season, so spending $3+mil when they are going nowhere does not make sense.

Posted by: kerzon417 | November 1, 2010 4:55 PM

To replace last year's ace, TO.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 1, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Mike Shannahan, peddling fine BS since the mid 1990's. His latest vintage, QB injuries lead to benching QB in last two minutes of game, stands as one of his finest.

Remember at Shannahan's we don't let the truth interfere with coaching.

Posted by: 44fx2901 | November 1, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse

So in your opinion Shanny only gets 7 games to fix 10 years of terrible management. What an idiot you are.

Posted by: Flounder21

The only thing that bothers me about all of this is a lot of folks keep giving Shanny a pass. Just because you call him out doesn't mean you want him gone.

I think he's effed up a few situations and this is just a big one. The worst part is Shanny still won't admit that he screwed up by pulling DM. That's the worst part.

I thought the funniest part of all was when he said DM "conditioning" was a concern heading in to the final drive. Effing hillarious! I can't even imagine if Zoron did this. This would be right up there with swing gate.

Posted by: dcwun | November 1, 2010 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Don't worry about Moss acting a fool if he signs here. With the Shanna-eye-in-the-sky-han camera, the coach can watch his every move.
I wonder if he has cameras and microphones in players cars?

Posted by: priceisright | November 1, 2010 5:06 PM | Report abuse

'Gave us the best chance to win' - M. Shanahan


'After that... my guess is you'll never hear from him again...'

'And like that, poof. He's gone.'

signed

Keyser Sose

Posted by: kahlua87 | November 1, 2010 5:06 PM | Report abuse

I have my doubts that this was a spur of the moment decision. I wonder if this decision was made by HC Shanahan or team prez Shanahan.

McNabb thinks he is in the class of QBs with Peyton and Brady. Brady got paid, Peyton is about to get paid.

No one is going to pay McNabb in the range of those 2 guys. Here's another reality, once a guy decides to 'test the market' he's almost always gone.

I wonder if team prez Shanahan did this to get Donovan to think he's worth less $$. Because there is no reason for coach Shanahan to bench the guy who gives you the best chance to win.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 1, 2010 5:07 PM | Report abuse

I think this all boils down to Donovan and Kyle not seeing eye to eye and Mike is simply takin his kids side. A POP WARNER coach knows Mcnabb gives you a better chance to win than Grossman. CMON

Posted by: skins91r | November 1, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Randy Moss will be a Redskin. Book it.

Donovan McNabb will throw at his feet. Book it.

Posted by: Original_etrod | November 1, 2010 4:40 PM | Report abuse

AND


Don't worry about Moss acting a fool if he signs here. With the Shanna-eye-in-the-sky-han camera, the coach can watch his every move.
I wonder if he has cameras and microphones in players cars?

Posted by: priceisright | November 1, 2010 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Only problem is he is not a FA until he clear waivers...i doubt very seriously he gets through waivers....So don't count on Skins getting him....too many teams have a higher waiver priority.

Posted by: leevi98 | November 1, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

What an idiot you are.

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 1, 2010 4:41 PM |

Dude has a point. No matter how much MS knows about Xs and Os, he is tone deaf when comes to dealing with certain types of situations involving star players. Public humiliation may stoke his ego but there are better ways to handle AH and DM type issues. See what Belechick, a Xs and Os dude like MS, did with RM. No showing up a dude and nasty PR, and he suckered the Vikes into giving up a 3rd rounder for him.

Posted by: SonOfStan | November 1, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 1, 2010 5:07 PM

I have to say that thought did cross my mind, but I still think it was a mistake to bench McNabb.

Posted by: kaasmaster | November 1, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

-ASHBURN, VA
Redskins Head Coach Mike Shanahan was seen urinating off the roof of Redskins Park onto several of the team's beat reporters entering the complex. When asked about his strange conduct, Shanahan advised that the moisture was due to a strong coastal front bringing heavy periods of rain to the Northern Virginia site.

Posted by: Kenbeatrizz | November 1, 2010 5:13 PM | Report abuse

What would really be funny is if Chilly was out voted in Minny and Moss isn't waved.

Me, I am siding with Flounder- Chilly is not in Minn next year. Dude is an idiot.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/11/01/glazer-moss-not-waived-yet-still-not-informed-of-move/

Posted by: kerzon417 | November 1, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if team prez Shanahan did this to get Donovan to think he's worth less $$.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 1, 2010 5:07 PM | Report abuse

This crossed my mind as well. I don't think either side is impressed with the other right now. Unless a lot changes in the next nine weeks, #5 is going to do everything he can to get out of DC.

Posted by: Pepper5 | November 1, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse

"And yes, it was a really bad decision, but listening to him he seemed genuinely unsure if Donovan was even going to play this game, perhaps he really was worried that he couldn't physically get it done."

Posted by: zjfr2 | November 1, 2010 4:55

Are you serious? Dude, you believe he was "genuinely unsure" DM was going to play? Shanny has made no bones about it that if you can't practice, you don't play. I sure he saw DM for a few days and knew he was good. If that was the case, he would have talked to DM and Rex before and let him know his "plan" and he didn't.

I would agree that the franchise is headed in a better direction but call it like it is. This is the 2nd game in which his ego and his own genius have gotten in the way and prevented a potential victory.

Posted by: dcwun | November 1, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

I had a dream last night that Mike Shanahan had retired. I woke up this morning and said crap.

Posted by: getitritegov | November 1, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

fwiw, after seeing DET yesterday, I think they make a run at the NFC title -- I give them a 1/3 chance at making the postseason.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 1, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if team prez Shanahan did this to get Donovan to think he's worth less $$. Because there is no reason for coach Shanahan to bench the guy who gives you the best chance to win.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 1, 2010 5:07 PM |

MS the personnel guy could never make it as a GM in the NFL. It's one of the prices you have to pay to get him as HC. Him giving the Eegs a high 2nd rounder for DM is borderline braindead. Although the Vikes taking a flyer with RM does take some of the boneheaded luster off the DM deal.

Posted by: SonOfStan | November 1, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan is full of crap!

Posted by: RealOne1 | November 1, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

it's amazing... shanny knew it would come down to the 2 minute warning with no timeouts.....spooooky, he's clairvoyant! only on halloween!

Posted by: astroman215aolcom | November 1, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

it's amazing... shanny knew it would come down to the 2 minute warning with no timeouts.....spooooky, he's clairvoyant! only on halloween!

Posted by: astroman215aolcom | November 1, 2010 5:25 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if team prez Shanahan did this to get Donovan to think he's worth less $$.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 1, 2010 5:07 PM | Report abuse

This crossed my mind as well. I don't think either side is impressed with the other right now. Unless a lot changes in the next nine weeks, #5 is going to do everything he can to get out of DC.

Posted by: Pepper5

I guess a few people are wondering about it. Its a challenging role to be both HC and team prez -- their objectives aren't always the same.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 1, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Skins are NOT heading anywhere but more mediocrity that you can book. I was watching the Tampa Bay game yesterday and they are a real up and coming program who di the right thing 3 years ago and blew up the roster, accumulated draft picks, kept some smart veterans (like Ronde Barber), and now look where they are. The Skins, on the other hand continue to pretend they're only a player or 2 away from contention - that's the only reason you give up precious draft picks for a McNabb, a player you're not even sure you can get to fit into your system. McNabb does not represent the competitive future for the Skins and the only reason this team isn't 0-8 is just pure luck. This is an old tired roster with very few playmakers on it. The Skins should've got started with the rebuilding this year and all they've done now is kicked the can further down the road -sorry folks I ain't seeing it!

Posted by: bendersx6 | November 1, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

I would agree that the franchise is headed in a better direction but call it like it is. This is the 2nd game in which his ego and his own genius have gotten in the way and prevented a potential victory.

Posted by: dcwun | November 1, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Was this before McNabb missed two wide open throws to Fred Davis on two pointers, when he threw an absolutely horrible INT with a 5 point lead and 4 minutes to go, then got the ball back and went 4 and out without getting a yard? The beat report Chris Russell is just saying on 980 that McNabb for the whole week was moving very poorly just walking around the facility, that he was really limited in practice but moved better on Friday and Saturday. It was a really bad call, I agree with that, but we don't know the full extent of McNabb's injuries and lets be honest, McNabb hadn't made a positive play in that game in the 4th quarter, in fact, the plays he made were mostly negative and he'd taken a beating, Shanny prolly thought his play the last two series combined with his health maybe he should make the move....I wouldn't have, I think it was a mistake, and I think its inexcusable, if McNabb wants to play you let him finish the game, he's earned that. But don't tell me Shanny's ego cost us the game, McNabb did plenty to cost us the game and his last three times with the ball in his hands trailing late he's produced an INT and two 4 and outs. It was a bad call, but don't say it cost us the game you have no reasonable defense to expect that McNabb could have got the job done. It was a tough and unlikely scenario regardless of who was qb, but IMO it was still a bad call.

Posted by: zjfr2 | November 1, 2010 5:33 PM | Report abuse

The only explanation I can come up with for that decision yesterday is this: the vengeful spirit of Jim Zorn somehow took possession of Mike Shanahan's body.

It's the only thing that makes sense. Yesterday was Halloween, after all.

Posted by: Gladiator2008 | November 1, 2010 5:33 PM | Report abuse

Zorn said a lot of dumb things, but never anything this insulting to our collective intelligence. You've managed to turn the whole town against you coach, and now you have made it worse by telling a lie that not one soul will believe. This is a town where Redskins coaches get more scrutiny than the President. Hope you know what you are doing.

Posted by: UtahDan | November 1, 2010 5:35 PM | Report abuse

What a crock of an explanation! This guy belongs in Washington alright, but not as the Redskins coach. Such extraordinary BS belongs in Congress or on Pennsylvania Ave.

Posted by: clfrdj | November 1, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Two QBs we could have had each won a game this week. Troy Smith, ex-Raven and Campbell, ex-us. Both had ratings well into 3 digits. Smith was cut by B'more -- but we got the other guy at the end of their bench isntead. I've always liked him, thought he was the best QB SF had. He took a big step in proving it Sunday.

There is a QB controversy brewing in Oakland, many think Gradkowski is the better QB. The HC says its Gradkowski when he's healthy. Still, hard to ignore 500+ yds of offense in back to back games and QB rating around 120 for them.

In SF, I don't think there is much controversy. Troy Smith, on the basis of 30 minutes of football (SF basically ran it the whole 1st half), is the best QB in SF.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 1, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Zorn said a lot of dumb things, but never anything this insulting to our collective intelligence. You've managed to turn the whole town against you coach, and now you have made it worse by telling a lie that not one soul will believe. This is a town where Redskins coaches get more scrutiny than the President. Hope you know what you are doing.

Posted by: UtahDan

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Yeah. First, he gives us some BS about Grossman "understanding the signals" better than McNabb, then he changes stories and says it was really because of some "lingering injuries".

Well...if Grossman understood the signals better, and McNabb was that badly hurt, why'd you start him, coach?

Coach? Is your nose growing?

Posted by: Gladiator2008 | November 1, 2010 5:44 PM | Report abuse

It was a bad call, but don't say it cost us the game you have no reasonable defense to expect that McNabb could have got the job done. It was a tough and unlikely scenario regardless of who was qb, but IMO it was still a bad call.

Posted by: zjfr2 | November 1, 2010 5:33

The worst part is that we'll never know. This is the reason we went out and got a DM. As a competitor, I'm pissed if I'm DM. As professional as DM is, I just hope that we haven't burned a 2nd round pick on a 1 year rental.

Somebody please remind Shanny that we are 3 months in since camp started. The conditioning excuse expired 2 months ago....

Posted by: dcwun | November 1, 2010 5:47 PM | Report abuse

OMG, JOHN RIGGINS is all over both SHANAHANS for this McNABB thing. And he makes sense. Putting it in the perspective of a player, this appears to be a vindictive thing. I know nothing about MIKE SHANAHAN personally, but he gives the outward appearance of a hard-bitten, driven man with obsessive tendancies which can be both good and bad. And for better or worse, he's our guy. Here's hope-ing DANO hasn't been had by SHANAHAN's prior successes in DENVER while overlooking his failures, something I mentioned often before the deal for this coach went down.

Posted by: glawrence007 | November 1, 2010 5:50 PM | Report abuse

The problem isn't the horrible decision that they made to bench McNabb, nor is it the pack of lies they are making up after the fact to hide the truth. The real problem is that they believe Rex Grossmann is a capable NFL quarterback. He was nothing in Chicago but a bumbling fumbling fool, and he has done nothing in Houston or Washington to prove any different. If MS or KS thinks he gives the team a better chance to win a game, maybe they aren't as good as they think.

Posted by: BigR22 | November 1, 2010 5:50 PM | Report abuse

from the season preview of ZEKE'S UNIQUE PERSEPCTIVES

McNabb is learning a new system for the 1st time in over a decade. There will be bumps in the transition, more than most want to acknowledge. ... McNabb lost almost the same number of sack yards/game as Campbell did last season.

On offense, I think we fall a bit below the middle. Maybe 20-25th overall. The upside -- we’ve got a QB who can (and must) take advantage of the goodies the defense gives us … and he can win a close game with a late score.

..... at the time don't recall anyone questioning the comment about McNabb's potential to win a game with late scores. Well, except Mike Shanahan, apparently. fwiw, we're 20th in yds/game on offense.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 1, 2010 5:54 PM | Report abuse

It was a tough and unlikely scenario regardless of who was qb, but IMO it was still a bad call.

Posted by: zjfr2 | November 1, 2010 5:33 PM

Gotta hand it to you Jack, you have the best perspective on this situation of anyone who's posted today. Go, Jack.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 1, 2010 5:55 PM | Report abuse

What kind of team doesn't practice the 2 minute drill EVERY week, customized to the opponent of the week? What kind of coaching staff doesn't have their starting QB fully up to speed on terminology by the halfway mark?

The reality is they wanted to bench DM earlier in the game but didn't have the guts to do it until it was too late....

Posted by: hoyainmd | November 1, 2010 5:55 PM | Report abuse

God people, stop whining.

MS doesn't owe you an explanation, much less the truth. What happened is between him and DM, and that's it.

It's funny to read folk on here and listen to folks on 106.7 whine about MS as if he's a problem because he's insistent upon having it his way, when just last year they were whining about Zorn having an undisciplined squad that needed to toughen up.

It's his first year here, they've had to patch up some ugly holes, they've won 4 games out of 8 when it took 'em 16 last year.

Lighten up, you francises.

Posted by: shaunsherman12 | November 1, 2010 5:55 PM | Report abuse

Yeah. First, he gives us some BS about Grossman "understanding the signals" better than McNabb, then he changes stories and says it was really because of some "lingering injuries".

Well...if Grossman understood the signals better, and McNabb was that badly hurt, why'd you start him, coach?

Coach? Is your nose growing?

Posted by: Gladiator2008

We all know what's up. If the coaches, who have had DM since Easter, didn't teach him the 2 minute offense in all of this time, there are deeper issues. I find it hard to believe that a dude of DM's pedigree hasn't picked up the 2 minute offense yet.

This ain't Denver coach. Skins fans, well most of us, are a helluva lot smarter than that.

Posted by: dcwun | November 1, 2010 5:57 PM | Report abuse

Is the Kool Aid all gone yet?

How do you like me now?

Posted by: pabrian2003 | November 1, 2010 6:02 PM | Report abuse

One thing I've overlooked, and some others have brought up, are the roles Shanahan has.

I've looked at it from being team prez/GM/HC (Bruce Allen = admin asst). never liked Shanahan in the GM/prez role, but thought very highly of him as HC.

What I haven't really considered is another 'unique' added role of his. Mentor/Dad/protector/unofficially annointed successor to his son Kyle. Not that KS doesn't have merit on his own, but that is another hat MS must wear.

Team prez wants one thing, HC wants another, son/OC wants another? So what does MS do?

Really a mgmt structure that has "problem" written all over it.

.... which is also my way of saying to those who think this may have been because of KS -- you may be right.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 1, 2010 6:03 PM | Report abuse

I'll bet McNabb threw up when he saw that press conference.

Posted by: Ombudsman1 | November 1, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Is the Kool Aid all gone yet?

How do you like me now?

Posted by: pabrian2003 | November 1, 2010 6:02 PM | Report abuse
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Pabrian,

It is clear that the team losing and you being right is more important to you than the team winning and showing you're wrong (which you are, usually).

This is why as far as being a fan, you stink.

Posted by: shaunsherman12 | November 1, 2010 6:07 PM | Report abuse

I know nothing about MIKE SHANAHAN personally, but he gives the outward appearance of a hard-bitten, driven man with obsessive tendancies ...

Posted by: glawrence007 | November 1, 2010 5:50 PM |

Hey, give the dude some steel balls to click and it might be hard to tell the diff between him and Humphrey Bogart's Captain Queeg.

Posted by: SonOfStan | November 1, 2010 6:07 PM | Report abuse

For those clamoring to sign Moss, might not be an option.

Monday waiver wire does not include Randy Moss

Posted by Mike Florio on November 1, 2010 5:32 PM ET
Jay Glazer of FOX reports that the official Monday waiver wire has been released by the league office.

And that it doesn't contain the name of Randy Moss.

Thus, it means that Moss has not yet officially been released.

It doesn't mean he won't be cut. It only means that he hasn't been cut yet.

Meanwhile, Glazer says that receiver Percy Harvin is "livid" with the development. Mos

Posted by: kerzon417 | November 1, 2010 6:09 PM | Report abuse

I just hope that we haven't burned a 2nd round pick on a 1 year rental.

Posted by: dcwun | November 1, 2010 5:47 PM

Our OL is problem #1 thru #4.

However, Do you want to sign McNabb to a 3-5 YR deal worth 45-60 million? Given the way he's played why compound the problem by signing him to a long-term contract.

I'd wait, because we're only in chapter 8 of this 16 chapter story.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 1, 2010 6:09 PM | Report abuse

"WOW!!!

A day later he's still too proud to admit he was wrong.

Sad to say but we're going to be looking for another head coach very soon. He's got too big an ego for not having done anything in 10 years."

___________________________________________________________

Does any of that actually surprise you?

He hasn't done anything since John Elway retired, and his ego is far more impressive than his résumé.

I'm not saying I want Zorn back, but it's not looking like the team has upgraded at all.

How many more years on Egohan's contract?

Posted by: DC2Dallas | November 1, 2010 6:12 PM | Report abuse

I'm not saying I want Zorn back, but it's not looking like the team has upgraded at all.

How many more years on Egohan's contract?

Posted by: DC2Dallas | November 1, 2010 6:12 PM | Report abuse
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...and if they beat Philly in two weeks, fans like this one will be checking schedules to see if the Redskins have a good shot at the playoffs or not.

Give...it...a...rest.

Posted by: shaunsherman12 | November 1, 2010 6:15 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 1, 2010

Well, I've been waiting to get your perspective on the events from yesterday. Since you believe Shanny knows best and always makes the right call. Are you buying that explanation? What does it say about this staff that their "franchise" guy doesn't know the 2 minute offense?

And the best part, talk to me about Shanny's claim about DMs conditioning.

Posted by: dcwun | November 1, 2010 6:22 PM | Report abuse

Come on guys......injuries?? Are you serious? As an Eagles fan I'm only glad yo got him and not us. Maybe Andy was on to something.

Posted by: bossrjc | November 1, 2010 6:28 PM | Report abuse

More DM/MS BEEPS.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 1, 2010 6:30 PM | Report abuse

Just a question...

How is it that McNabb has screwed-up enough to be pulled? (No matter how Shanny tries to spin it, now.) But, Lichensteiger still has Shanny complimenting how well he plays (during today's press conference), while we all see him getting killed in pass protection.

Not to mention the fact that Shanny was critical of the O-line during the PC, so it would have been easy to say something along the lines of "he is having some struggles, just like the o-line as a whole."

And don't get me wrong, I do understand what the coaches liked about young Cory. He is athletic enough to get up to the LBs on the stretch play and he is the best cut blocker the Skins have on the O-line.

But, come on man, he gets out-muscled all the time in pass protection.

Posted by: SportzWiz | November 1, 2010 6:33 PM | Report abuse

Just a question...

How is it that McNabb has screwed-up enough to be pulled? (No matter how Shanny tries to spin it, now.) But, Lichensteiger still has Shanny complimenting how well he plays (during today's press conference), while we all see him getting killed in pass protection.

Not to mention the fact that Shanny was critical of the O-line during the PC, so it would have been easy to say something along the lines of "he is having some struggles, just like the o-line as a whole."

And don't get me wrong, I do understand what the coaches liked about young Cory. He is athletic enough to get up to the LBs on the stretch play and he is the best cut blocker the Skins have on the O-line.

But, come on man, he gets out-muscled all the time in pass protection.

Posted by: SportzWiz | November 1, 2010 6:34 PM | Report abuse

many in oakland DON'T think gradkowski is better than campbell many think he is avg. and injury prone(which he is)even if he is inserted back into the line-up he will be out again soon with a broken leg, ankle what-ever, he can't take a hit campbell can.

Posted by: wathu19 | November 1, 2010 6:35 PM | Report abuse

Injuries!!! Can you believe this BS? Gosh what an egomaniac Shan is. I guess next he will be telling us it wasn't him at all but his evil twin alien from alpha centuria. THROW THIS PHONY BUM OUT OF TOWN!

Posted by: teeballou | November 1, 2010 6:40 PM | Report abuse

pabrian2003 wrote: "Where we're at?? Nice English. Your a coach."
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Um, that would be "you're." Better do a grammar check before you bust on someone else.

Posted by: monk4hall | November 1, 2010 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Zornskins2 asks a lot of very good questions. It's too bad reporters didn't.

Posted by: monk4hall | November 1, 2010 6:43 PM | Report abuse

How many columns, articles and bogs do we need on the game and the ridiculous 4th quarter? OK, so the coaching staff screwed up. The allied invasion of Normandy didn't get as much coverage.

Posted by: randysbailin | November 1, 2010 6:46 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan's answers are a load of bull. They don't square with the facts. So Shanahan decided BEFORE the game that he would put Rex in, but didn't tell Rex? Grossman himself said he was "surprised." The rest of the answers don't pass the smell test, either.

Posted by: monk4hall | November 1, 2010 6:54 PM | Report abuse

I for one LOVE this backpedaling by shanny. He just admitted in his own way that he messed up. Which is one of the qualities in a leader.

And shanny is the most vindictive man I know. Have you guys forgotten about shanny vs. Al Davis? I think that lawsuit is still alive. The dude can hold a grudge.

Posted by: dealer1 | November 1, 2010 6:58 PM | Report abuse

i don't really like this whole thing going on...but what i like the least is game management...score a touchdown, go for 2..and you're ahead. do it twice to make it nice. both coaches showed no confidence in the players. to bench mcnabb at the end of the game...smdh. that list goes on and on, and not just from this game. the coach on the team that seems to get it is haslett, and only with people skills. he's gotten haynesworth to play, hall to shut up and that's pretty impressive.

Posted by: joerutgens72 | November 1, 2010 7:01 PM | Report abuse

A jawdropping WTF! Neither QB has practised the 2 min offense and McNabb isn't cardio fit enough to run it? Is Haynesworth his workout partner? In the imnortal words of Wallace Shawn -- INCONCEIVABLE!!

Posted by: Natmeister | November 1, 2010 7:03 PM | Report abuse

monk4hall, I agree, his whole explanation just doesn't make sense. It sounds like a kid saying, "I meant to do that!" after the fact.

Posted by: taonima2000 | November 1, 2010 7:04 PM | Report abuse

Natmeister: dude, this is no place to quote from "The Princess Bride." Or is it...

Posted by: dannil | November 1, 2010 7:14 PM | Report abuse

Rex Grossman to start

-QB controversy ignited.

First play: Sack-fumble-TD

-Quarterback controversy extinguished.

Ummmm, Coach. The line was getting pummeled (as evidenced by Donavans 5 sacks). And you'd put in a flat-footed slowpoke QB all over again?

The fundamental problem wasn't with the lack of understanding of the two minute offense. Eleven hurries and five sacks over 30 total pass plays isn't endemic of anything but the line not protecting the QB.

You'd have been better off benching the line, not Donovan.

To win our division we need to beat the Giants. They have a ridiculous defensive line so I call this season a wash unless the Giants lose two defensive lineman over the next three weeks.

I predict we finish the season just as we have started it. 8-8 and we miss the playoffs. Good luck Skins!

Posted by: 20yrskinfan | November 1, 2010 7:38 PM | Report abuse

It's the O line stupid.

Posted by: jeffkuske | November 1, 2010 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Is Shanahan running for office or what? He's a spinster, changing the story, saying anything to avoid the real truth: he doesn't trust McNabb. I agree with the earlier posts: this team is 4-4 people. Wins matter. Stats are for people with too much time on their hands, too many stupid things to worry about. Could he be better, sure. But he doesn't have too many toys to play with here. That, my friends, is a result of mismanagement that implicates Schottenheimer, Spurrier and yes, dare I say Joe Gibbs. They are all to blame for the mess that Shanahan inherited. Now, my big question is this and it has always been this with the Redskins. Does this front office structure work where the Coach has final say. I SAY IT DOES NOT! Too much power, too much ego. It doesn't matter if it were Cowher, Gruden, or (whoops) Gibbs, and it fails. The Snyder management system is a failure. Until that changes, until we keep draft picks and stop salivating over other team's players, this will always be a perpetual tease. Hail.

Posted by: Bozeman1 | November 1, 2010 7:48 PM | Report abuse

Comment on: McNabb plays host at harsh 'Hell Week' at 7/19/2010 7:15 AM EDT
I would like to see D. McNabb show little
more "fire in his belly" during games.

Tried to tell you.

Posted by: whitaker200 | November 1, 2010 7:52 PM | Report abuse

I hear Shanny is requiring Donovan to pass the timed shuttle run test before he can practice with the team again. It worked once to bring a problem player back to his senses...great coaching!

Posted by: DWinReston | November 1, 2010 7:58 PM | Report abuse

I hear Shanny is requiring Donovan to pass the timed shuttle run test before he can practice with the team again. It worked once to bring a problem player back to his senses...great coaching!

Posted by: DWinReston | November 1, 2010 8:00 PM | Report abuse

I hear Shanahan is requiring Donovan to pass the timed shuttle run test before he is allowed to practice again. It worked once to bring a problem player back into the fold...great coaching!

Posted by: DWinReston | November 1, 2010 8:02 PM | Report abuse

this is one good coach. he keeps the players on edge, eliminating those entitlement issues that always arise.
go mike!

Posted by: tripferguson1 | November 1, 2010 8:11 PM | Report abuse

no doubt it was bad form to bench your future HOF qb, but the real test is can the coach and Donovan repair the blow to one's ego and put the team truly ahead of either man's pride. Too early to panick. Go Skins!

Posted by: wty1113 | November 1, 2010 8:23 PM | Report abuse

"but "I don't go through our conversations" publicly."

But you DID take the time REPEATEDLY to restate your converstation with McNabb ("Mike, I'm fine. blah, blah, blah..."). Listen to his press conference and see how many times he quoted McNabb and himself.

Shan-a-tan is SUCH a self-serving,hypocritical LIAR!

Posted by: peauxsucent | November 1, 2010 8:31 PM | Report abuse

MS has really adapted to Washington very quickly. He can spin his stories like a typical politician now, and just as unconvincingly!

Posted by: ExPatYankee | November 1, 2010 8:31 PM | Report abuse

That's ridiculous! Shanahan should just shut up! Really! He wasn't in good enough shape to run the two minute offense. Being in shape is starting to be code for I just don't like him! C"MON MAN!!!!

Posted by: wardt30 | November 1, 2010 8:37 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan is losing credibility by the second!

Posted by: wardt30 | November 1, 2010 8:43 PM | Report abuse

Mike Shanahan is full of sh$%!!! If Donovan was truly hurt or out of shape, how the hell did he make the longest run of the year?! That man ran for his life the entire game! Let's see the "boy wonder" or "Coach" Shanahan take thoses hits and appear to be in shape. He should have bench his punk a$$ son for not being able to adapt the play calling. Let us not forget that "Coach" Shanahan was fired from his last place of employment and will soon face the same fate. He's such a punk!

Posted by: Neisha_H | November 1, 2010 9:06 PM | Report abuse

I'm not much on X's & O's but where did the run go? Did the D'fence play too much prevent? The O'line didn't show up to play, did it? Or did it just get the SNOT KNOCKED OUT OF IT!!!!!!

Has the O'fence played any 2min. this year? Why not play a little 2min. just to keep the other team off balance?

Posted by: doughboy96 | November 1, 2010 9:12 PM | Report abuse

What B.S.!! It was his "gut feeling" to bench McNabb for Grossman because of
1) McNabb's inability to run a two minute offense?? 2) McNabb's "cardiovascular conditioning"??
However, it turns out that Grossman has never run the two minute offense in a game and hasn't even practiced with the first team all year. And so he promptly fumbles the game away on his first play. Redskins' fans should hope that Shanahan doesn't go with too many more of his "gut feelings"! Or the Skins will prbably be lucky to win another game this season!

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Posted by: fsafs44 | November 1, 2010 10:27 PM | Report abuse

look shanahan can say all he wants as far as mcnabb can't run the 2minutes offense or they are not comfortable with him running the offense, shanahan's keeps changing his story little earlirt an article came out where it said that mcnabb wasn't in shape as far as cardio standpoint if that's the case why would you put him on the field in the first place to begin with and now according chris Mortinson shanny wanted to bench mcnabb back on the eagles game just because he didn't like the way mcnabb practiced the problem is that mike shanahan and kyle shanahan need to understand this much when it comes to mcnabb he been running the west coast offense for the past 11yrs.this can seriously tear the entire locker room apart sometimes the damage can be so bad to the point that the leaders can't repair it. as far as kyle shanahan is concerned he lost so much respect throughout the league it doesn't make sense why because of the fact that he needs approval of make shanahan to make a playcall on offense and trust me when i say this it's gonna affect him getting a head coaching gig anywhere in this league because of the fact that he's not his own man while working for his own father and the only way he can get that respect back is to stand up to him and tell him iam in charge of the offense and if you don't like the way iam running things replace me with someone else and trust me not only he'll get respect from his players but he'll also get respect from the coaches he's working with and the management and if anyone thinks this issue is not gonna be addressed come offseason they are seriously mistaken period.

Posted by: rmnkevorkian | November 1, 2010 10:29 PM | Report abuse

What B.S.!! It was his "gut feeling" to bench McNabb for Grossman because of
1) McNabb's inability to run a two minute offense?? 2) McNabb's "cardiovascular conditioning"??
However, it turns out that Grossman has never run the two minute offense in a game and hasn't even practiced with the first team all year. And so he promptly fumbles the game away on his first play. Redskins' fans should hope that Shanahan doesn't go with too many more of his "gut feelings"! Or the Skins will prbably be lucky to win another game this season!

Posted by: Doowadiddy | November 1, 2010 10:29 PM | Report abuse

What B.S.!! It was his "gut feeling" to bench McNabb for Grossman because of
1) McNabb's inability to run a two minute offense?? 2) McNabb's "cardiovascular conditioning"??
However, it turns out that Grossman has never run the two minute offense in a game and hasn't even practiced with the first team all year. And so he promptly fumbles the game away on his first play. Redskins' fans should hope that Shanahan doesn't go with too many more of his "gut feelings"! Or the Skins will prbably be lucky to win another game this season!

Posted by: Doowadiddy | November 1, 2010 10:30 PM | Report abuse

What B.S.!! It was his "gut feeling" to bench McNabb for Grossman because of
1) McNabb's inability to run a two minute offense?? 2) McNabb's "cardiovascular conditioning"??
However, it turns out that Grossman has never run the two minute offense in a game and hasn't even practiced with the first team all year. And so he promptly fumbles the game away on his first play. Redskins' fans should hope that Shanahan doesn't go with too many more of his "gut feelings"! Or the Skins will prbably be lucky to win another game this season!

Posted by: Doowadiddy | November 1, 2010 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Cardiovascular? Is he saying Macnabb does not have the heart for it?

Posted by: wootens | November 1, 2010 10:34 PM | Report abuse

All of you with this conspiracy theory thing stop being fools. Peter King even pinched in stating that McNabb has not done particularly well in last two minutes of games he has played. 6 months not enough to get acquainted with a similar offence he ran in Philly? Dude is dumb or not working hard enough. Even Campbell was able to absorb the new systems thrown at him every year. Injuries and work ethic? I'll trust Shanahan's judgment over McNabb's. What? Reid and Shanny don\t know quarterbacks? You do? Please. Stop it already. Skins will be fine after bye. Relax.

Posted by: mustang_johnny1 | November 1, 2010 10:48 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan is FOS! He should try an enema to eliminate the backlog and possibly reduce the size of his ego.

Posted by: bazookajoe1 | November 1, 2010 10:49 PM | Report abuse

I'd like my earnings, please.

Posted by: chavez66 | November 1, 2010 11:58 PM | Report abuse

What a crock of hoodoo -- all of it. It didn't take Shanny and his boy long to look and smell as if they bathe in manure.

Weren't they in on the signing of an aging quarterback playing the back nine, and signing a stable of worn out running backs, and implementation of a new defensive scheme that gives it up like a girl of medium morals?

It seems to me the Dedskins are lucky they're not tied with the Cowgirls for worst record in the NFC, which is more indicative of where they are than their current record.

Blue smoke and mirrors is ok for a few w's, but the reality is that Snyder Putz so ran this team into the ground that it's going to take a long time, and many draft picks, to save this circus.

Posted by: MartinZook | November 2, 2010 12:00 AM | Report abuse

Seriously, I went out on a limb betting on the ethics and humanity of the Washington Post of all things. I need dental and medical something... food and rent. Even writing those latest Masterpiece theater incarnation of Sherlock Holmes should fight Pirate breath and cover a dentist visit.

Posted by: chavez66 | November 2, 2010 12:09 AM | Report abuse

To me young Darth Vader joined the republican party. I hope I was wrong.

Posted by: chavez66 | November 2, 2010 12:26 AM | Report abuse

Lets see,Campbell (92 pts and 1053 yards of total offense in last two games)...is let go of for nothing...to keep Rex Grossman who has been a dismal failure at every stop in his career...

Go Shanahans...

Jr's never played a down,and trys to tell 12 year vet and multiple pro bowler how HE wants him to play...

What's wrong with this picture ?

Posted by: petebowling1 | November 2, 2010 12:32 AM | Report abuse

Or more specific the actor of my family name endevoring in a republican field was bound to get burned?! Capt. Jack, Lucky Jack of Patrick O'Brian's Master and Commander... well his doctor suggested power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutly. Big money, republicans, etc... I forgot Lucas and the Post while turning hard to Port and immortalizing my bad breath and inability to afford dentistry or courage to pull a trigger. So is this the inevitable outcome of a capitolist society. I've been mugged and had my head bashed with rocks and knives pulled on me while walking down the street but is there anything good ever given even for merit?

Posted by: chavez66 | November 2, 2010 12:58 AM | Report abuse

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