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Posted at 5:17 PM ET, 12/20/2010

Will Donovan McNabb take snaps with the scout team?

By Jason Reid

Former third-string quarterback John Beck will serve as the primary backup for new starter Rex Grossman during the Redskins' final two games, so Donovan McNabb essentially will be inactive against the Jacksonville Jaguars and New York Giants.

But what will McNabb do in practice during the week?

Beck has directed the scout team throughout the season. Would Coach Mike Shanahan instruct McNabb - a six-time Pro Bowler and one of the league's most accomplished active quarterbacks - to lead the scout team for the final two weeks?

"To be honest with ya, I would never let a guy like Donovan run the scout team unless he wanted to run the scout team," Shanahan said Monday. "I don't think John Beck would ask him to run the scout team. You just do that in professional football.

"Knowing Donovan, he'd probably like to get some snaps. Last week, he was No. 2 and he wanted to take some scout-team snaps, which shows you what type of guy Donovan is."

Grossman will get the majority of the first-team reps and Shanahan said he wants to evaluate Beck with the starters in practice. McNabb will either direct the scout team or watch practice from the sideline.

"That's why people like to get reps and keep sharp," Shanahan said. "That's why that third-team quarterback, he always wants to get reps if he can. A lot of times, that second-team quarterback wants to take all the reps with the scout team, so he can feel a lot more comfortable in case somebody goes down."

By Jason Reid  | December 20, 2010; 5:17 PM ET
Categories:  Donovan McNabb, Rex Grossman  
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Comments

who cares?

Posted by: AdamCr | December 20, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

* Cooley on his reaction when he heard about the trade after getting calls and text messages from friends: "This is one of the top 10 biggest bonehead trades in the history of the NFL."

* Cooley on McNabb's arrival: "It’s been great from the minute he got there. It’s been fantastic. You wouldn’t know he hasn’t been our teammate for the last 10 years. He’s stepped right in as a leader, as a friend ... "


Ahh, memories.

Posted by: Alan4 | December 20, 2010 5:45 PM | Report abuse

whatever... don't care...

Posted by: jimmy_the_crickett | December 20, 2010 5:45 PM | Report abuse

whatever... don't care...

Posted by: jimmy_the_crickett | December 20, 2010 5:45 PM | Report abuse

McNabb and a ham sandwich for Cutler. So let it be written, so let it be done.

Also, the Skins could use a high round guard or center (or both) or refills in UFA.

I say re-sign Rogers (though Rogers will probably want to leave) and let McIntosh find a new team (though McIntosh will probably want to stay).

I think Skins have a better chance in an away game in warmer weather in Jacksonville. I'm taking the Skins and the points ... like I always do. Is Jacksonville out if they lose their division?

Posted by: dcsween | December 20, 2010 5:57 PM | Report abuse

Interesting nugget: the Cowpies had 7 sacks in their previous 6 games. They had 5 sacks on Grossman.

Who thinks Grossman will fare better against the Jags and, uh oh, the Gints?

Posted by: Alan4 | December 20, 2010 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Jacksonville is tied with us with 25 sacks. Dallas has 29. NYG has 42.

The NYG will pose a challenge, no question. However, Grossman will have to get rid of the ball even faster than he did against the Cowboys.

Posted by: JSchon | December 20, 2010 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Ridiculous... for Shanahan to act like he's going to praise McNabb's willingness to practice with the scout team (in the quote above) while the organization has trotted out Sonny to claim that one big demerit against McNabb is his practice habits... make up your minds what the party line is, dudes. You look like clowns.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 20, 2010 6:30 PM | Report abuse

Who thinks Grossman will fare better against the Jags and, uh oh, the Gints?

Posted by: Alan4 | December 20, 2010 6:12 PM

He won't. But last time we played the gints we lost 31-7, so "better" is relative.

Posted by: mack1 | December 20, 2010 6:34 PM | Report abuse

Could John Beck be the future skins QB????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCgH6sTEeP8

Yes, it would be nice to take one of the top five QBs available in the 2011 draft, but would it be worth the millions in guaranteed money for an unproven young QB who would have to learn to be a pro and learn an NFL system. It may take 2-3 years before it pays off. John Beck has been in the system and that first pick could be traded for more picks in much needed positions.

Posted by: kingpenn1 | December 20, 2010 6:36 PM | Report abuse

And in the meantime we get stuck with Grossman and only a matter of time before he decides the next game is "meaningless." I don't trust his work ethic anymore now than I did yesterday morning.

Posted by: Mark20005 | December 20, 2010 6:47 PM | Report abuse

maps

Posted by: _Stumped_ | December 20, 2010 6:48 PM | Report abuse

I reside in Joisey and "had" to watch the Jints/Eegs instead of the Skins/Dallas on Fox Sunday. Poor me. When the Jints took a commanding 31-10 lead with 7 mins to play, I wanted to get up and turn the game off but I didn't have the energy so I stayed in my seat and watched something unbelievable unfold. Vick cast a spell on the Jints, put them in a trance and then made them look like they was zombies, which they was. It were the height of irony that on the last play of the game DJax would fumble a Jints punt that should have been kicked out-of-bounds and then pick it up and whiz past them 65 yds into the end zone to score the winning TD.

Posted by: TLoad | December 20, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse

Ridiculous... for Shanahan to act like he's going to praise McNabb's willingness to practice with the scout team (in the quote above) while the organization has trotted out Sonny to claim that one big demerit against McNabb is his practice habits... make up your minds what the party line is, dudes. You look like clowns.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 20, 2010 6:30 PM |

Actually what is ridiculous is to trot out a dud like him to sound on anybody's practice habits. As they say on SNL, "really!"

Posted by: TLoad | December 20, 2010 6:52 PM | Report abuse

maps

Posted by: _Stumped_ | December 20, 2010 6:48 PM |

tubes

Posted by: TLoad | December 20, 2010 7:04 PM | Report abuse

Farve starting, AP out.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 20, 2010 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Don't forget to pop out at 3 AM EST to see the total eclipse of the moon. It should be a clear night from NYC to DC. Hot diggity dog!

Posted by: TLoad | December 20, 2010 7:08 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 20, 2010 7:06 PM |

Brett Favre along with his little fren is starting also. And AP will be there to report everything that happens.

Posted by: TLoad | December 20, 2010 7:15 PM | Report abuse

snaps

Posted by: _Stumped_ | December 20, 2010 7:15 PM | Report abuse

ZEKE’S UNIQUE PERSPECTIVES, as always, brought to you by Yahoo!’s finest

I had a different idea in mind for the week’s effort, but had to bench it for an inferior idea. Time to weigh in on McNabb. I was in the minority regarding his trade – I didn’t like it. Not because I expected McNabb to have a bad year, but because we had bigger problems. This edition is not an “I told you so”.

Back when I was a young pup, we had an annual QB controversy over Billy Kilmer and Sonny Jurgensen. At one point, SJ9’s career in DC was on the razor’s edge. He’d have just one chance to perform in a preseason game or he’d be done in DC. He did fine and after the game, Warner Wolf said something simple and pretty darn smart. He said that SJ9 is a QB who has proven himself over 15 years to be one of the best in football. It made no sense to determine his fate over what happened in a single a preseason game.

Warner was right about SJ9, and in a different context, I’m going to use the same logic with McNabb. He has had a bad year. Like SJ9, McNabb has proven that he deserves the benefit of the doubt. Not by his play in DC this season, but by his body of work. This season is the exception in McNabb’s career.

McNabb isn’t young, but he isn’t at an age where QBs drop off a cliff. When we made the trade for him, I looked at what happened with comparable QBs at the same age. They had an average of 4 seasons left as a primary starter, and those seasons were evenly distributed between QB ratings that were bad (below 80), fair (80-90) and good (above 90).

I’m not buying that he is a bad QB. He is a good QB having a bad season.

I had not made a decision on whether I’d want Donovan back in 2011, though I was leaning against it. The downside is that McNabb is incredibly expensive and we have other needs. The upside is we have no QB who have ever demonstrated anything near the ability of McNabb. If we are going to have a good QB in 2011, easily our best chance would be for McNabb to rebound. Up until the divorce papers got served late last week, it wasn’t a far-flung scenario.

Grossman deserves credit for playing well, especially after the shaky start. Top QBs execute in the red zone and make clutch plays like 2 point conversions. He did both. A late drop by Moss cost the Skins a win. Kudos to Rex. But …

It is also just one game and not Grossman’s norm. His body of work says he doesn’t get the benefit of the doubt. We’ve all seen 1 game wonders (clint longley) and 1 season wonders (Derek Anderson).

Warner Wolf ‘s criticism was about misguided judgment. He railed against using the ‘what have you done for me lately” standard. Shanahan apparently felt that 13 games was enough to figure out McNabb wasn’t worth it, ignoring a lengthy a track record of success. McNabb had done too much right over too many years to be so casually discarded.

That is a wrap of ZEKE’S UNIQUE PERSPECTIVES, as always, brought to you by Yahoo!’s finest

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 20, 2010 7:16 PM | Report abuse

"... that first pick could be traded for more picks in much needed positions."

Posted by: kingpenn1 | December 20, 2010 6:36 PM

Before we start trading away high draft picks away for more picks, just remember that this is going to be one of the biggest and most talented FA groups in recent history. With the new CBA, one of the big talks is getting the rookie pay scale under control. The owners and players committee don't want all that money going to rookies, but to many other things. So the large amounts of money going to rookies is in the past.

The thing that I would think best would be to trade some of your players that don't fit schemes, Haynes and #5, and use the FA to fill some holes. Not over paying or going over the top in anyway, but to at least gather some players that fit the schemes. Then in the draft, get the most talented players available. Draft for quality, not for need. The problems we face need at least two years before we are contenders.

O line can probably be fixed with FA. We need at least a G and hope that Cook or Capers can develop at least into a back up next year. I really think Heyer looked great as a G against the Titans this year. Think maybe trying to move him should at least be a thought. WR can be fixed in FA.. Vincent Jackson will be out there and after not playing for 10 games and coming out last week and having 3 TD's, I think that is the other one you need. Him and AA will tear it up together.

Defense:draft. Get your NT with either the #1 or go with the QB and get the NT/LB opposite Orakpo in second round or try to find in FA...
So keep all the good picks we have and gather more by trading value players that don't fit our schemes for whatever we can get for them and try to be around 8-8 next year and having a winning season in 2012

Posted by: PanteraCFH | December 20, 2010 7:19 PM | Report abuse

snaps

Posted by: _Stumped_ | December 20, 2010 7:15 PM |

jubes

Posted by: TLoad | December 20, 2010 7:21 PM | Report abuse

The Coach handled it all wrong.Tell DM prior
that if they are out of the playoff run he
will start to evaluate others.Turns out he did the right thing but made a mess of the
explanation-again.

Its ashame for the skins-for believe or not-
the way it is shaking out they had a great chance to be a playoff them.Consider--these
loses--Houston--not DM--Indy--not DM--Tampa-
not DM-ALL KICKER related--one or 2 others
special teams-even Dallas--SANTANA DROPS THAT OPEN PASS LATE.......and special teams
-the blocks in the back-Detroit and one other-NEGATING td'S-so DM had a lot of help losing games.

Just the top 3 and it would be Giants--then
Green Bay and Tampa-(8-6) and Skins-(Tampa
losing to Skins-Skins would have tie-break
breaker over both)................BUT.........IF ONLY.

Lots of luck to whoever is going to be here next year.....Looks like another start
over year-but the schedule(less NFC East)
should be soft.

Whoever the QB--GET HIM A LINE AND SOME WEAPONS.!!

Posted by: GEARAUTO1 | December 20, 2010 7:25 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: PanteraCFH | December 20, 2010 7:19 PM |

Dimebag - RIP.

Posted by: TLoad | December 20, 2010 7:27 PM | Report abuse

TLoad, as my man Stumped can attest, we're in a perpetual cloudscape here in Portland, so we're probably going to miss out on the total eclipse of the moon...

But there's always a chance at a Total Eclipse of the Heart, so we got that goin' for us.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 20, 2010 7:31 PM | Report abuse

and oh yes, I didn't like the 3-4, in part, because it marginalizes our best player, Orakpo, by having him cover guys instead of rushing the passer.

Now that Orakpo injured himself on a play where he was covering felix jones downfield, I've upgraded from "didn't like" to "absolutely hate"

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 20, 2010 7:32 PM | Report abuse

total eclipse of the heart? close enough

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj-x9ygQEGA

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 20, 2010 7:42 PM | Report abuse

lmao john beck the future???? Lmao he will be 30 this year!!!

Posted by: warriorking111285 | December 20, 2010 7:45 PM | Report abuse

good one Nate

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 20, 2010 7:45 PM | Report abuse

But there's always a chance at a Total Eclipse of the Heart, so we got that goin' for us.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 20, 2010 7:31 PM |

Chance? Dude - that has been the fate of the Skins fan going on the past two decades.

Posted by: TLoad | December 20, 2010 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Don't forget to pop out at 3 AM EST to see the total eclipse of the moon. It should be a clear night from NYC to DC. Hot diggity dog!

Posted by: TLoad |

Great reminder!!! Here in LA that's midnight so there shoudl be no prob-- Oh wait. Forgot. It's freaking pouring. I blame McNabb.

Posted by: TheCork | December 20, 2010 7:49 PM | Report abuse

total eclipse of the heart? close enough

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj-x9ygQEGA

Posted by: zcezcest1


Great song. And a funny satire of the morons who did the Video.

Every time I hear Bonnie Tyler sing I want to say, "Would you like a lozenge?"

Posted by: TheCork | December 20, 2010 7:52 PM | Report abuse

Tload,
Really thought you would go with b__bs.
Gotta keep it SJK.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | December 20, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Great reminder!!! Here in LA that's midnight so there shoudl be no prob-- Oh wait. Forgot. It's freaking pouring. I blame McNabb.

Posted by: TheCork | December 20, 2010 7:49 PM |

Freaking pouring in LA? Dude - that happens less often than total eclipses of the moon. You should do a video and post it on YouTube.

Posted by: TLoad | December 20, 2010 7:59 PM | Report abuse

2017
Total eclipse of the sun traces right through Portland, across the country exiting in Panther terroir.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | December 20, 2010 8:01 PM | Report abuse

What about Nate Solder for the draft talk. 6'9" 320 Colorado OT, started out as TE but moved to the OT. Plays LT but maybe could be moved to G. Great footwork, strong, relatively fast....

Posted by: CarbonChauvinist | December 20, 2010 8:05 PM | Report abuse

2017
Total eclipse of the sun traces right through Portland, across the country exiting in Panther terroir.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | December 20, 2010 8:01 PM |

2010
Total eclipse of John Fox hits Panther territory.

Posted by: TLoad | December 20, 2010 8:08 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone remember Warner when he was with the Giants? He was in the same boat as McNabb. He ended up having a couple of great seasons with the Arizona Cardinals before retiring.

Posted by: ged0386 | December 20, 2010 5:52 PM | Report abuse
How can you compare the Greatest show on turf with D McRibb sandwich. Good God Man !

Posted by: ThrowItToMyTeam | December 20, 2010 8:12 PM | Report abuse

Guys named Nate are always ready for that Tackle eligible call late in the fourth quarter and you're in a short yardage situation.

Plus, how do you tackle a 320 ball carrier?

Posted by: _Stumped_ | December 20, 2010 8:18 PM | Report abuse

But there's always a chance at a Total Eclipse of the Heart, so we got that goin' for us.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 20, 2010 7:31 PM |

And while we're remembering Bonnie's Total Eclipse let's not forget Carly's as well:

Well, I hear you went up to Saratoga
And your horse naturally won
Then you flew your Lear jet up to Nova Scotia
To see the total eclipse of the sun

Posted by: TLoad | December 20, 2010 8:19 PM | Report abuse

Plus, how do you tackle a 320 ball carrier?

Posted by: _Stumped_ | December 20, 2010 8:18 PM |

It a lot easier than tackling a 215 lb QB name o Vick. Just ask the Jints about that.

Posted by: TLoad | December 20, 2010 8:27 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else see what happened to Eli yesterday at his post game press conference? Totally empty of reporters until some intern shows up. Eli has this dumb look on his face (nothing new there!) and walks up to the podium when the intern shows up to start the presser.

Can't make that shi t up! Almost choked on my beer.

Posted by: kerzon417 | December 20, 2010 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Some peeps up here may not get their wish this offseason.


Report: Chargers want to franchise Vincent Jackson

Posted by Evan Silva on December 20, 2010, 8:31 PM EST

Vincent Jackson dominated last Thursday night’s game against the 49ers, catching five passes for 112 yards and three touchdowns. It comes at an unsurprising time, then, that the Chargers have grown increasingly interested in retaining their contract-year receiver into the 2011 season.

According to Kevin Acee of the San Diego Union-Tribune, the Bolts are considering placing the franchise tag on Jackson this offseason. Acee reports that there is “almost no chance” of Jackson receiving the long-term contract he desires, at least from San Diego. The team is reportedly still wary of Jackson’s history of DUIs, and the hefty financial risk that would accompany a commitment to a player at risk of lengthy suspension should he again violate the league’s conduct policy.

Acee’s report contains plenty of caution, though. There’s no guarantee that a franchise tag will be available without a new Collective Bargaining Agreement, and no one knows what a franchise tag would look like if there is one.

Another risk of franchise tagging Jackson would be the possibility that he refuses to accept the one-year tender. Jackson and his representatives showed in 2010 that they are not afraid to prolong a holdout deep into a season.

Posted by: kerzon417 | December 20, 2010 8:38 PM | Report abuse

kerz- I hope they do..

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 20, 2010 8:40 PM | Report abuse

You and me both Diesel. Dude is gonna want way too much mullah.

Posted by: kerzon417 | December 20, 2010 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Its unbelievable that people think Grossman looked good. He threw two picks (should have been three) and fumbled near our goal line. He cost the Skins points each turnover. I think the Cowboys were in cruise control when they went up 27-7 and that's how Rex got all those yards. Grossman was instrumental in the loss and people are acting like his four touchdowns are all that mattered. I've been frustrated as anyone with McNabb, but if he keeps turning the ball over and spotting the opposing teams points, he should be yanked. People are also forgetting that there's a lack of film on Rex in this system. I'll reserve my judgment on Grossman until after the Giants game.

Posted by: 1302lt1 | December 20, 2010 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: 1302lt1 | December 20, 2010 9:38 PM

Grossman played better than OK. 4 TDs, 2 2PT conv, & 4-4 in the red zone. I don't care if that's in 7-7 drills vs our pathetic D.

If you're looking for players instrumental in the loss then look at DHall & KMoore.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 20, 2010 9:56 PM | Report abuse

Grossman was instrumental in the loss and people are acting like his four touchdowns are all that mattered. I've been frustrated as anyone with McNabb, but if he keeps turning the ball over and spotting the opposing teams points, he should be yanked. People are also forgetting that there's a lack of film on Rex in this system. I'll reserve my judgment on Grossman until after the Giants game.

Posted by: 1302lt1 | December 20, 2010 9:38 PM | Report abuse

And what of McNabb's 15 interceptions? How many of those contributed to losses? WHat about the many grounded balls and misread by McNabb? How many stalled drives? Again I haven't read anywhere that people are saying that Grossman is all of a sudden an all pro Qb. However, considering the play from that position this year, Grossman's performance was a huge improvement.

Posted by: TWISI | December 20, 2010 10:01 PM | Report abuse

Could John Beck be the future skins QB????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCgH6sTEeP8


Yes, it would be nice to take one of the top five QBs available in the 2011 draft, but would it be worth the millions in guaranteed money for an unproven young QB who would have to learn to be a pro and learn an NFL system. It may take 2-3 years before it pays off. John Beck has been in the system and that first pick could be traded for more picks in much needed positions.

Posted by: kingpenn1 | December 20, 2010 6:36 PM |
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

john beck was playing as a 25 yr senior at byu... he is currently 29 and on his 3rd team... he is officially a journeyman/career backup...

Posted by: jimmy_the_crickett | December 20, 2010 10:23 PM | Report abuse

It's good to see Shanny making nice to DM5. A little late, but he's showing some class here. Much appreciated in a man EVERYONE in DC wants to see succeed as the HC. (Believe it or not, fans want to see Kyle succeed, too.)
Also, can everyone please stop the talk about how this coulda been a playoff team? No, it couldn't, as evidenced by what happened on the field all year. Too old, too slow, too thin. Once the inevitable injuries started to mount up, it was all over this year.

Posted by: nyskinsdiehard | December 20, 2010 10:26 PM | Report abuse

BMitch's record goes down. Hester now has 14 returns for TDs.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 20, 2010 10:32 PM | Report abuse

devin hester....wow

Posted by: chrislarry | December 20, 2010 10:33 PM | Report abuse

""""And what of McNabb's 15 interceptions? How many of those contributed to losses?""""

Again-the coach is evaluating players-and 5-11 will get you a better draft pick then
8-8 etc.

However at the start of the season Shanahan
complimented DM on his willingness to throw
the ball up for grabs to make a play at the end of the half / game to make a play-without worry about an interception-or stat-
I have not heard the Coach say anything about INTC's just posters.

I believe @4 of DM's INT were of that variety and 5 or 6 were balls that bounced off receivers hands.

If Coach let DM play all 16 DM would have easily set the record for yds by a Skins QB.
Again this seasons over and one thing the Coach showed(and DM also had to see) was
that he had not grasped their offense.

But with respect to DM--THAT IS TUFF TO DO WHEN YOU ARE LAYING ON YOUR BACK -or running from sackers.

Posted by: GEARAUTO1 | December 20, 2010 10:36 PM | Report abuse

Have fun with that one TWISI..

I feel nauseous after trying to read that bad boy.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 20, 2010 10:42 PM | Report abuse

Have fun with that one TWISI..

I feel nauseous after trying to read that bad boy.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 20, 2010 10:42 PM

I really don't know where to start on that one Diesel44. I think I'm just gonna let that one slide on by.

Posted by: TWISI | December 20, 2010 10:48 PM | Report abuse

Smart move TWISI.

Luck is the absolute class of the QB draft and the best prospect to come out since Peyton Manning. I wonder what it would take to move up to the #1 pick.

Probably our 1st and 2nd but considering we have a laundry list of needs it's probably too much.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 20, 2010 10:56 PM | Report abuse

Put me down for one order of "not convinced of anything" regarding Rexy.

Sure, he had a really really nice 2nd half against an atrocious pass defense to bring the team back...

...after helping to put them in a hole with a couple very Rex-like turnovers deep in the Skins territory.

Anyhow, we saw this kind of act from him in Chicago and it's what convinced those guys to keep him as a starter for a full season. But now that there's a little tape of him in this offense, and facing some better defenses (read Giants), Rex is going to give us one of his classic 11.3 QB rating performances.


So, Diez, you like Mike Leach?

Posted by: p1funk | December 20, 2010 11:15 PM | Report abuse

i dont really follow umd so help me understand firing friedgen, isnt he going to be acc coach of the year?

Posted by: chrislarry | December 20, 2010 11:20 PM | Report abuse

So, Diez, you like Mike Leach?

Posted by: p1funk | December 20, 2010 11:15 PM

This was a move by a new AD (Anderson) to sell those boxes that they added due to Ralph's success early on with Vandelinden's recruits.

The problem with Ralph is that Franklin left for Vandy and he was the main recruiter.

Leach will bring an exciting brand of football and if he was successful @ TT then he should be pretty good considering he will be inheriting Danny O'Brien.

Just don't let Leach have any sheds built near Byrd stadium.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 20, 2010 11:33 PM | Report abuse

Reid, quit your crying over mc5. He wasn't that great. We were 5-8. Tom Brady with woodhead is 12-2.

Andy Reid saw limitations in MC5. He was the best available, but not "the" franchise quaterback. Stop your crying. I'm sorry but this seems more racial bias than anything. And its so not about that.

Posted by: rodskin | December 21, 2010 12:08 AM | Report abuse

The Redskins are drama year in an out that does everything but win games an make the playoffs, what free agent in their right mind would want to come here?

Posted by: BeatDontStop | December 21, 2010 12:46 AM | Report abuse

U know I am so sick of Sonny always giving a critique of QB's and Redskins even listen to him. Yes I am sure he can give some insight because he played the position but to talk about practice habits. SONNY, u have to be kidding. Yes, Sonny could throw the ball but did you see the shape he was in? This is exactly why Terry Bradshaw absolutely loathes Sonny because of this crap. He has won NOTHING. Done nothing. If anyone says anything about his practice habits it should be Andy Reid who has been with him 4 yrs. not some fat announcer who has watched him practice for one season. Danny quit consulting with SONNY about Qb's in this town. He has done nothing but bash all the qb's including Joe Theismann.

Posted by: jimjim3 | December 21, 2010 1:22 AM | Report abuse

Hola people

Posted by: TheScamp75 | December 21, 2010 1:37 AM | Report abuse

I would like a heated driveway please.

Fellas, here's what cheers me up when I'm down: NO VINNY!!!!

Posted by: dealer1 | December 21, 2010 1:46 AM | Report abuse

Scamp, if you get a chance, drop me a line at nateinthepdx at gmail. Curious what's going on with your situation vis--à-vis the blog. Maybe I can help figure something out.

dealer, what, is it snowing there or something? Poor you. We've got rain falling in Portland, and it's less than an hour to eclipse time!!

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 21, 2010 2:28 AM | Report abuse

what ever don't want to read about it of hear about it??????????????????????????????

Posted by: westcurtis1961 | December 21, 2010 6:25 AM | Report abuse

Reid, quit your crying over mc5. He wasn't that great. We were 5-8. Tom Brady with woodhead is 12-2.

Andy Reid saw limitations in MC5. He was the best available, but not "the" franchise quaterback. Stop your crying. I'm sorry but this seems more racial bias than anything. And its so not about that.

Posted by: rodskin | December 21, 2010 12:08 AM |

*********************************************

And it's not about you being an idiot, either, so just go ahead and forget about that part.

It's about wins and losses. Not how stupid you are or any of that other stuff. It's not about you sucking or about your ham-handed attempts at postracialism.

This is only about you being a loser.

So, no hard feelings, what's your prediction on the score against the Giants with "The Great White Dope" leading the Skins?

Tool! You should have your keyboard removed forever. You are so moronically moronic, I bet you dont even know why.

Trust me. You're a tool. Go away.

Posted by: Thinker_ | December 21, 2010 6:29 AM | Report abuse

The Redskins' quarterback of the future is already at Washington- as in the University of... Jake Locker. Where ever they pick in the draft, he's the one. Their new Elway, their new Staubach, their new Baugh.. their new Vick. Jake Locker. He's the one. I see great things in the pros for this guy. Hope Skins are the team he does them with...

Posted by: ESmith5172 | December 21, 2010 7:24 AM | Report abuse


beeeeeps peeeeeeps

Posted by: hessone | December 21, 2010 7:27 AM | Report abuse

What's the next big Redskins Insider scoop, what Donovan had for lunch yesterday?

Posted by: randysbailin | December 21, 2010 8:56 AM | Report abuse

We'll take a #1 meal and a 5th rounder for McNabb.

Posted by: thorhero | December 21, 2010 9:16 AM | Report abuse

As a die hard Philly fan, the outcome of the Mcnabb trade couldn't have been any more enjoyable. The Iggles stole a 2nd and 3rd round pick for that bum Mcnabb and then got the opportunity to face him twice a year for the duration of his career.

Mcnabb is a horrible QB, but on top of that he is a complete loser and heartless punk. Skins fans only get to see the former side of Mcnabb: #5 throwing bad INT's, under and over throwing receivers and never leading a second half comeback.

Mcnabb is much, much worse when he is on a winning team. As the QB of the Iggles, he constantly missed critical throws in important games, mismanaged the game clock, and ultimately NEVER came through in the clutch. After each miserable failure, Mcnabb would throw his teammates under the bus. The sign of a complete loser and coward.

Philly fans were criticized for booing Mcnabb out of town. The national media and naive sports fans only saw the fantasy numbers he put up and didn't see all of the 5 yard passes on 3rd and 8, the worm-burners in the 4th quarter, and that stupid smirk whenever he made a horrible play.

Mcnabb is a horrible QB, and a complete passive-aggressive jerk. We all hoped the worst for Mcnabb in Washington so that the country could see that we weren't wrong, and that he really was a terrible QB and person. That being said, even he doesn't deserve to get disrespected the way he is in Washington right now. The man is getting embarrased at the end of his career.

I hate the guy to death, but even he deserves better than this.

Posted by: throwsatfeet | December 21, 2010 9:19 AM | Report abuse

Many of you knuckleheaded Skins fans are as lost on fantasy Island as your Coach and Owner, you won't get Jack form McNabb, because you either release him or bring him back, which Father and Son Shenannagans can't do now or they lose fact and there is too much tan to do that. So ther other teams will wait for you to release him and then swarm. And guess what, to all the haters, next year when he is in the Playoffs, u fools will still be crying about another 5 and 11 season.

Posted by: phillipt | December 21, 2010 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Many of you knuckleheaded Skins fans are as lost on fantasy Island as your Coach and Owner, you won't get Jack form McNabb, because you either release him or bring him back, which Father and Son Shenannagans can't do now or they lose fact and there is too much tan to do that. So ther other teams will wait for you to release him and then swarm. And guess what, to all the haters, next year when he is in the Playoffs, u fools will still be crying about another 5 and 11 season.

Posted by: phillipt | December 21, 2010 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Hey throwsatfeet,

Come back and post when the Eagles have won 3 Super Bowls.

Until then don't let your dog loose near your MVP QB (who you were probably booing when the Eagles picked him up)

Go Skins.

Posted by: fearturtle44 | December 21, 2010 10:02 AM | Report abuse

HERE IS SOME MORE FOR YOU HATERS TO DIGEST.
After 13 games-only 5 QB'S HAD HIGHER YDS/GAME AND AGAIN ONLY 5QB's had
more yards passing and dont think other
GM'S HAVENT NOTICED THOSE NUMBERS.DM has a lot left in his tank!!And ,thanks to the coach,he will leave this year HEALTHY.

Now he has to get to a team with a good O LINE and more weapons.


GAMES QB RATE COMP ATTM % YDS PR GAME

Donovan McNabb WAS 13 77.1 275 472 58.3 3377 259.8

sacked 37 times only Cutler with more

Ben RoethlisberrPIT 09 92.6 203 335 60.6 2600 259.8

Tom Brady NWE 13 109.9 299 449 66.6 3398 254.4

Philip Rivers SDG 13 105.7 309 464 66.6 3861 295.8

Drew Brees NOR 13 93.5 391 571 68.5 3855 294.4

Peyton ManninG IND 13 92.1 407 608 66.9 4028 304.1

Matt Schaub HOU 13 90.0 324 519 62.4 3482 270.2

Eli Manning NYG 13 87.7 305 477 63.9 3166 246.2

Kyle Orton DEN 13 87.5 293 498 58.8 3653 281.0

Posted by: GEARAUTO1 | December 21, 2010 11:04 AM | Report abuse

Like throwsatfeet I'm a life-log Eagles fan. Unlike throwsatfeet, I'm not one of the vocal minority who falsely thinks they "drove" McNabb out of town.

McNabb has faults as a QB, mainly he can be inaccurate. Earlier in his career, when he carried the Eagles' offense on his back, he relied on his athletic ability to free lance and make big plays. However, as he grew older, his ability to run decreased. I think Reid realized that and decided to go with a more accurate passer - Kevin Kolb.

Vick was just a happy accident.

But what distresses me about Phlly "fans" like throwsatfeet is the constant need to go with personal insults when discussing McNabb. The man is not a "punk". I've read comments where he's referred to as a "dirtbag", etc.

That's how screwed up we've become as a society: a man's failings as an entertainer gives fans like throwsatfeet the "right" to denigrate a man's family, intelligence, and integrity with now more evidence than what he reads in the paper and hears on sports talk radio.

Posted by: MD_Eagles_Fan | December 21, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Reid, quit your crying over mc5. He wasn't that great. We were 5-8. Tom Brady with woodhead is 12-2.

Andy Reid saw limitations in MC5. He was the best available, but not "the" franchise quaterback. Stop your crying. I'm sorry but this seems more racial bias than anything. And its so not about that.

Posted by: rodskin | December 21, 2010 12:08 AM |

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And it's not about you being an idiot, either, so just go ahead and forget about that part.

It's about wins and losses. Not how stupid you are or any of that other stuff. It's not about you sucking or about your ham-handed attempts at postracialism.

This is only about you being a loser.

So, no hard feelings, what's your prediction on the score against the Giants with "The Great White Dope" leading the Skins?

Tool! You should have your keyboard removed forever. You are so moronically moronic, I bet you dont even know why.

Trust me. You're a tool. Go away.

Posted by: Thinker_ | December 21, 2010 6:29 AM | Report abuse

Thinker, your not much of a thinker are you. This is exactly what I am referring to. You spent more time putting down "The Great White Dope" and me than answering the real questions: Why did Andy Reid let D5 go, and why did we go down the field 4 times and score in the red zone 4 times? Why can New England and the Colts consistently be in the playoffs and wins superbowls, cause of "smart" quaterback play. Jason Reid in the press conference to bench D5 was obviously upset. I just can't understand why anyone who is real skin fan be...we were 5-8. Real qb's who understand the offense and make quick decisions would have had as 8-5. Shanny saw that and I believe proved his point Sunday. I like D5 as a player and person, but think he is limited.

Posted by: rodskin | December 21, 2010 11:37 AM | Report abuse

rodskin,

Judging by your original post, it seems you were suggesting Reid wrote the article because he was a Black writer upset over a black starting QB becoming the scout team QB. You did say something about "racial bias".

Think about it: McNabb was the starting QB for 13 games. McNabb is a multiple times Pro Bowl QB. McNabb led his former team to six NFC championship games and a Super Bowl. The fact that such a QB has been demoted to 3rd string is news worthy. It's a big reversal of fortune.

Now as to why Andy Reid traded McNabb, despite all his past accomplishments, it's pretty simpl: he felt it was Kevin Kolb's time. Just like S.F. traded Montana when it was Steve Young's time.

The current Eagles regime (like the Patriots) have shown that they will release or trade favorite players (Trotter, Dawkins, McNabb)just a wee bit before their time. That's how you maintain a successful franchise. And if you look at winning percentages, the Eagles are in the top three for the past decade.

Posted by: MD_Eagles_Fan | December 21, 2010 12:08 PM | Report abuse

rodskin,

Judging by your original post, it seems you were suggesting Reid wrote the article because he was a Black writer upset over a black starting QB becoming the scout team QB. You did say something about "racial bias".

Think about it: McNabb was the starting QB for 13 games. McNabb is a multiple times Pro Bowl QB. McNabb led his former team to six NFC championship games and a Super Bowl. The fact that such a QB has been demoted to 3rd string is news worthy. It's a big reversal of fortune.

Now as to why Andy Reid traded McNabb, despite all his past accomplishments, it's pretty simpl: he felt it was Kevin Kolb's time. Just like S.F. traded Montana when it was Steve Young's time.

The current Eagles regime (like the Patriots) have shown that they will release or trade favorite players (Trotter, Dawkins, McNabb)just a wee bit before their time. That's how you maintain a successful franchise. And if you look at winning percentages, the Eagles are in the top three for the past decade.

Posted by: MD_Eagles_Fan | December 21, 2010 12:10 PM | Report abuse

rodskin,

Judging by your original post, it seems you were suggesting Reid wrote the article because he was a Black writer upset over a black starting QB becoming the scout team QB. You did say something about "racial bias".

Think about it: McNabb was the starting QB for 13 games. McNabb is a multiple times Pro Bowl QB. McNabb led his former team to six NFC championship games and a Super Bowl. The fact that such a QB has been demoted to 3rd string is news worthy. It's a big reversal of fortune.

Now as to why Andy Reid traded McNabb, despite all his past accomplishments, it's pretty simpl: he felt it was Kevin Kolb's time. Just like S.F. traded Montana when it was Steve Young's time.

The current Eagles regime (like the Patriots) have shown that they will release or trade favorite players (Trotter, Dawkins, McNabb)just a wee bit before their time. That's how you maintain a successful franchise. And if you look at winning percentages, the Eagles are in the top three for the past decade.

Posted by: MD_Eagles_Fan | December 21, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

redskins need to get some draft picks back for the mcnabb trade. I say trade cooley, you can atleast get a second or third rounder for him, this team is in total rebuild mode and cooley cant win you games by himself, besides davis is more than servicable when you use him.

Posted by: ththornton1 | December 21, 2010 12:23 PM | Report abuse

who cares?

Posted by: AdamCr |


Well you read the story and took time to post who cares, so my guess would be you care.

Posted by: ged0386 | December 21, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse

who cares?

Posted by: AdamCr |


Well you read the story and took time to post who cares, so my guess would be you care.


rodskin

And if I could get a dollar for every time I read a WP blog of some white person crying racism towards a black person I could by a house. When did black people become "The Man" and whites become the victims of a racist society of blacks? When did white people become such whiners regarding race? You whine more than minorities do. Take your own advise you are quick to give blacks. Stop whining, stop blaming others, get over it.

Posted by: ged0386 | December 21, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Keep losing Redskins and we can say goodbye to the GOOF BALLS called Shanahans.
It just don't make sense as to what they are trying to do...offense was good enough...Defense is crap by not tackling and dropping too many sure interceptions
FLETCHER ALLOWED FARVE TO GET THAT FIRST DOWN...LOOOOOOOK AT THE FILM....SHORTY @ 5'9" IS NOT ALL THAT AND THE OTHER MOUTHY DEFENDERS NEED TO LEARN TO PLAY THE GAME...STOP SOMEONE..STUPID MILLIONARES THAT DON'T WANT IT BAD ENOUGH.....

Posted by: gman54 | December 21, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

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