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Earnest Byner's Reaction


Running backs Coach Earnest Byner was the only other assistant coach to speak today. I put in official requests to speak with every member of the coaching staff but all others have declined to this point. Byner said that Coach Joe seemed calm and at peace when he told the staff he was leaving Tuesday morning, but "he knew this is not easy and he knew it was going to shake some people up."

Like Gray, Byner said he is just reviewing every game and compiling reports on the performance of the running game. Those reports might be used in his interviews with an in-house candidate, or in an interview for his job with an outside candidate or merely left behind for the next running backs coach to peruse. Byner said he has heard nothing from ownership or management since the staff meeting Tuesday morning - other staff members have echoed this sentiment privately - and as of now does not have a set schedule for the offseason, vacation, etc.

Byner praised the work of feature back Clinton Portis, who has a big salary cap number and was one of Gibbs's favorite players but might not appeal to someone coming in from the outside. Byner was asked if there should be any questions about Portis's future here.

"No, none whatsoever," Byner said. "He's a franchise back and we've got a guy who does all the extra stuff on game day - works hard, blocks ferociously, a real good team player. Clinton is a back that this team needs and he should be here."

By Jason La Canfora  |  January 9, 2008; 3:14 PM ET
 
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Nice hands.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 9, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

He's tall.

Posted by: chris_skins_balt | January 9, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

CP is solid - he'd restructure his deal anyway.

Posted by: showell81 | January 9, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Plus, he has hand ... see the end of the previous thread.

Posted by: dcsween | January 9, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

"big salary cap number" seems to be Jasno's favorite offseason phrase.

Posted by: chris_skins_balt | January 9, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

I really hope the search doesn't last more than a week and we can move on.

Posted by: jm220 | January 9, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

limbo

Posted by: _Stumped_ | January 9, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Full Name: Colt Brennan
Born: August 16, 1983
Hometown: Laguna Beach, CA
Height: 6-3
Weight: 201 lbs.

Age: 24
Pos: QB
Class: Senior
RAT 159.8 | YDS 4,343 | TD 38

he had a 70% completion rating his senior year like I said before in order to put up these numbers you have to make the passes

Posted by: trailblazer658 | January 9, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

There was some love and comfort from St. Joe when players were approached to re-structure. Whether the organization has figured it out yet or not, with where the team is over the salary cap, and the timing of the HC decision, the players (individually, but more importantly collectively) have hand. Because of Sean Taylor, and winning on to close the season, this team is tight. Tighter than any overpaid group of twenty/thirty/somethings anywhere in the league right now.

Posted by: dcsween | January 9, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

What?!?! Its been 24 hours in Skinz Land and no new earth shattering newz....c'mon!

Posted by: chrislarry | January 9, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

In spite of Old School's admonition, I do get attached to the players as well as the team. Clinton Portis has become one of my all-time favorite skins players. I just love the way he goes all out with blocking. He seems to me to be just an all around good football player.

Posted by: Markin21132 | January 9, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Repost from last thread (let the flames begin):

No offense - but 'splain to me why we'd want a QB (Colt Brennan) who ended up being Georgia's b!tch in the Sugar Bowl? I don't deny that Brennan had a great season, but his undefeated Hawai'i team looked like the junior varsity compared to the Dawgs. As I recall, he was very near tears by the end of the game. Between him and Campbell, I think I'd rather have Campbell - ice water in his veins and all. One of the issues with the Skins is that we are far too impatient. I know Campbell has been our starter for a season and a half now, but that's still not all that long comparatively. Can we at least give him 8 more games before appointing his successor? As I recall, Denver once had this QB who was pretty mediocre his first couple of years, and then went on to win back to back Super Bowls. Some bloke named Elway.

Re: Colt's numbers - Look who he was playing against. The WAC is a pretty soft conference compared to the SEC, Big Ten, etc.

Posted by: jaradel | January 9, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

I just want to say Portis is awesome and always has been. Fans turned on him because he got injured, just like they did LaVar. For some reason guys like Jansen and Thomas are exempt from this criticism. I am thankful everyday that we made that Bailey trade. Do you all remember how Denver said Bailey was the missing piece to the Super Bowl puzzle? How a shut down corner was the last thing the team needed? How many Super Bowls have they won? How many have they been to? How many playoff games have they won? Do all my brothers and sisters remember when Bailey used to get beat deep in crucial NFC East games against the Cowboys? He'd do the "my bad" sign. Then he would get 3 ints against the Cardinals at the end of the dead season. Good riddance.

Might I remind everyone that Clinton was in the upper echelon of the league once again in rushing. He is the best blocking back in the league in my opinion and I believe he had more carries than any other back in the league. So, to me, he is more than just solid. Very few backs I would trade him for.

Also, a lot of Joe Gibbs bashing out there. Tell me how many coaches would give an arm for two playoff appearances in four years, not to mention in the toughest, or second toughest division in football. We don't get the Dolphins or Jets or 49ers twice. We get hated, historic, brutal rivals every time we face a division opponent.

My preferences for head coach.

1) Al Saunders
2) Gregg Williams
3) Jon Gruden

Any news on Gruden? I would hate it if we went outside and blew this damn thing up again. I love you all.

The Governor

Posted by: songofroland | January 9, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Portis is a true redskin. Man, this is killing me. When Gibbs said 'see ya at the racetrack' at the end of his NFL Network interview last night I nearly barfed. Damn you, NASCAR. Damn you Lukemia.

Just when it looked like it was all coming together. balls.

Posted by: jeffhayes | January 9, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

I guess it's not too early to start talkin draft. This is a bit long, but here is the Kiper big board. (espn insider)

1. Glenn Dorsey, DT, LSU (6-2, 292) | Previous: Same
Disruptive force along the interior. If there is one non-skill position player fans should watch, Dorsey is the one because, despite constant double-teams, he is always making plays or opening up space for his teammates.

2. Jake Long, OT, Michigan (6-6, 320) | Previous: Same
Top-drawer left- or right-tackle prospect.

3. Chris Long, DE, Virginia (6-4, 282) | Previous: Same
A 3-4 defensive end with great bloodlines who understands leverage and uses his hands as well as any D-lineman in the country.

4. Matt Ryan, QB, Boston College (6-4, 223) | Previous: Same
He has the size and arm to wow the NFL brass during testing.

5. Sedrick Ellis, DT, USC (6-1, 297) | Previous: Same
Tampa Bay Bucs-style DT with superior quickness and a nonstop motor.

6. Kentwan Balmer, DT, North Carolina (6-4, 298) | Previous: 7
Unbelievably talented player who is primed for a breakout season.

7. Sam Baker, OT, USC (6-4½, 310) | Previous: 9
Exceptional pass-blocker with superb technique.

8. Dan Connor, LB, Penn State (6-2½, 231) | Previous: 6
Big-play performer who always seems to be around the ball.

9. Fred Davis, USC (6-4, 253) | Previous: 13
Productive, consistent and multi-talented. He's caught five or more passes in eight of 13 games, while also doing a very capable job as an inline blocker. Davis stretches the deep middle of the field with big plays, while bringing excellent physical and athletic skills to the tight end spot.

10. Chris Williams, OT, Vanderbilt (6-5½, 318) | Previous: Same
Top-drawer talent, possessing superior athleticism and good feet to neutralize outside pass-rushers.

11. Keith Rivers, LB, USC (6-3, 233) | Previous: Same
He has the skill set to become a super blue-chipper. Rivers isn't spectacular, but he's a solid all-around player.

12. Brian Brohm, QB, Louisville (6-3, 223) Previous: 17
He's a polished pure passer, but durability and mobility are concerns.

13. Ali Highsmith, LB, LSU (6-1, 225) | Previous: 14
Showed tremendous potential in 2005 before taking a step back as a junior. Highsmith re-established himself as one of the top linebackers in the SEC.

14. Limas Sweed, WR, Texas (6-4, 217) | Previous: 19
TD-maker who plays fast with pads on. Sweed is out for the season following a wrist injury, but he proved his playmaking skills over his career.

15. Jeff Otah, OT, Pittsburgh (6-5, 339) | Previous: 20
Light on his feet for a huge bookend, Otah is still developing. He played only one year in high school and two at the junior college level. He also played basketball in junior college and is a tremendous athlete. His upside and potential are going to excite offensive line coaches in the NFL.

16. Mike Jenkins, CB, South Florida (5-11½, 202) | Previous: 8
He has excellent recovery speed and the toughness you look for in a cornerback. His size allows him to match up with an opponent's No. 1 wide receiver.

17. Lawrence Jackson, DE, USC (6-4, 266) | Previous: 18
A strong finish to 2006 carried over to 2007. Jackson is a decent pass-rusher but is solid against the run. He's also strong at the point of attack.

18. Leodis McKelvin, CB, Troy (5-10½, 185) | Previous: 16
Not only a very good cover man with superior recovery ability (runs in the 4.38 range) and the aggressiveness to get the job done in run support, McKelvin has made a name for himself as the top return man in the entire nation. He's also stood out this season in games against the likes of Arkansas, Florida, Oklahoma State and Georgia. With his speed and versatility, McKelvin will bring a great deal of value to a football team.

19. Chris Johnson, RB, East Carolina (5-10½, 200) | Previous: Unranked
Fast and versatile, Johnson is a decisive and hard-nosed runner with game-breaking ability. He's also an excellent pass receiver and dangerous kickoff returner. His 4.35 speed in the 40-yard dash will turn some heads at the combine and at individual workouts.

20. Bruce Davis, LB, UCLA (6-2¼, 233) | Previous: Unranked
A difference-maker who will be an ideal DE/OLB in a three-four defense in the NFL because of his athleticism and ability to put pressure on the quarterback.

21. Early Doucet, WR, LSU (5-11½, 205) | Previous: 24
Super-talented, is LSU's go-to option this season, although he has been slowed by injuries. Still he has the quickness and natural receiving skills to play on the outside or as a slot receiver in the NFL.

22. Tracy Porter, CB, Indiana (5-10½, 183) | Previous: 12
Not only a skilled coverman, but Porter -- a four-year starter -- is a dynamic punt returner as well.

23. Quentin Groves, DE, Auburn (6-3, 251) | Previous: 15
Speed rusher with the talent to rank as one of the more feared sack artists in the nation.

24. Carl Nicks, OT, Nebraska (6-5, 345) | Previous rank: 25
For a bookend offensive lineman, Nicks is extremely light on his feet. After stops at New Mexico State and a junior college, Nicks dramatically improved his draft stock in 2007.

25. Donnie Avery, Houston, WR, Houston (5-11, 185) | Previous: Unranked
Possesses excellent hands, has great footwork and is very dynamic in the open field after the catch. Also has blistering speed in the 40-yard dash, 4.35.

Posted by: puttinforbird | January 9, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: jaradel

Also dont forget that Colt Brennan was accused of rape

Posted by: Tyler84101 | January 9, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Governor, I've been thinking about your Gruden idea ... I agree that his tenure has simply warn out its shelf life in Tampa.

On Saunders (or any other O-coach), this team DOES need an offensive identity. "Rush first" in the Gibbs/Saunders version was too skitzofrenic (sp?).

Posted by: dcsween | January 9, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Tommy Chong senior season at Hawaii, 2004:

4258 yards, 38 TD, 135.4 rating.

trailblazer my friend, stats in college (especially a QB in the chuck-n-duck) don't mean a thing in the NFL.

Posted by: 4-12 | January 9, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Other odds....there is apparently a house in the UK giving 33/1 odds that Tiger Woods wins the Grand Slam this year. I can't decide what's more insane, that they're that low or that I've considered trying to get in on it.

chrislarry, i'm not sure if you read Slate, but if you do David Simon has posted a response to the nonsense going back and forth between Goldberg and Plotz. It's good reading either way.

NO COLLEGE COACHES. I'd like to see Williams get a shot for a year, while Cowher watches womens basketball and prepares his comeback.

Posted by: jspaceman72 | January 9, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Sween,

I agree completely. And, the players completely realize the power they have in this situation. As I posted yesterday, I heard Phillip Daniels on the radio yesterday afternoon talking about how other players were already saying they would base their decisions to cooperate or not with restructuring requests on the direction Mr. Snyder takes with the head coaching position.

Those who will need to be restructured don't fear refusing to do it because 1) if the teams truly needs them, they will be here even if they don't restructure, and 2) if they are cut from this roster, they know they will be be picked up by another team.

Things could get really interesting around here depending on the way it appears Mr. Snyder is leaning.

Posted by: JustMe | January 9, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Anybody see that pic of Glenn Dorsey on the front page of Sports yesterday? I'd be worried about him. He looks like the type of guy who could eat his way out of the league. In fact, he looks like he could eat his way out of 20,000 Leagues.

Posted by: SMACK1 | January 9, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Football IS a people business.

If you run a business, you want your staff to believe that they are part of the family because they work harder than if they think its only about the paycheck.

For years, Danny brought in guys who were about the paycheck. Joe Gibbs changed that. Sean Taylor's death changed that. The people that are part of the 'Skins now have a unique bond because of what they went through.

If Danny fails to recognize that he has a family, he will set this organization back to where it was before Joe Gibbs. It is one thing to blow up the organization if it isn't working. Its another to look at the success + passion this team has and deliberately mess with it.

Joe Gibbs restored respect, pride and dignity to this organization. If I was a FA five years ago, I'd think of the Redskins in terms of my paycheck and nothing more. Now, I think that might be a pretty special place to work.

If you are mgmt, which guy do you want? The guy who sees the Skins as something special or the guy who wants to max out his paycheck.

That is the issue Danny really has to deal with.

I think its worth taking a risk on GG, keep this team together, keep its chemistry and realize it is about the people. It could well succeed. But even if it fails, you still have respect. And that goes a long way in this league.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 9, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

I thought Gruden did a great job this year. He's not going anywhere.

Posted by: jspaceman72 | January 9, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

SMACK,

A lot of dudes seem to get like that at LSU. Must be all of that good Lousiana cookin'.

Posted by: JustMe | January 9, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Also dont forget that Colt Brennan was accused of rape.
-------------------------------------------
So were some Duke LAX players. NFL teams do background checks, and you can bet that he will be asked numerous questions about it at the combine and individual workouts.

Posted by: curtmcgurt | January 9, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

I am not saying that Campbell isn't THE guy. I am just saying we need to find someone with some talent and who knows how to win as a backup plan. It would be great if we didnt have to use a draft pick... thats why I suggested Brennan... Lets face it Brunell is finally gone so that leaves us with an opening? If not Brennan who else is out there that was at least decent in college and that we dont have to use a draft pick on? The fact of the matter is if Collins leaves (and I think he might) then we have to spots at QB and what if Campbell gets hurt again?

Posted by: trailblazer658 | January 9, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

I must say, I find it endlessly amusing when you guys continue to believe I'm "hung up on the DVD" thing. Do you folks realize how easy it would be for me to A) buy that dvd; B) get a Cooley autograph?

My criticisms of the beat reporter have nothing to do with any of that stuff. I'm just calling it as I see it. I don't see other beat reporters in this town publicly claiming that the owner of the team they are assigned to cover cares more about selling "club level seats" than he does about fielding a winning team. That's just plain irresponsible.

Dan Snyder is a smart businessman. He knows that the surest way to make this franchise as valuable as it can be is to win Super Bowls. To claim that Snyder's main objective is to find a "sexy coach" who will help sell tickets is just plain lunacy, and I'm going to continue pointing this out in addition to pointing out his other nonsensical claims until A) he's starts reporting the facts instead of his asinine opinions, OR... B) he is no longer the beat reporter at the Post.

Posted by: Barno | January 9, 2008 02:53 PM

Posted by: Barno1 | January 9, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

How is Brennan a senior at 24 years old? What did he do after high school?

Posted by: freakzilla | January 9, 2008 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: JustMe | January 9, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

4-12, as someone noted above, Tommy Chong's senior season was more along the lines of:

4258 joints, 2,122 bong hits, 158.33 stoner rating (highest possible)

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 9, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Bless you for not including the number 420 in that statistical analysis, Nate.

Posted by: jspaceman72 | January 9, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Colt got booted from Colorado for rape charges. When at a D1 school, you must sit out 1 year when transfering...Hence 24. Still seems a bit old. Maybe he was on the Chris Wenke program.

Posted by: puttinforbird | January 9, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Brennan went to Univ of Colorado first. He had to sit a year when he transfered to Hawaii. He left after the rape accusation, not sure if it was part of the bigger problems at Colorado at the time, or if this was a seperate incident.

Posted by: curtmcgurt | January 9, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Yo, Barno. Search for 'Redskins Insider' on the Post website. Here's what comes up:


"Redskins Insider
News, thoughts and comments on the Redskins from The Post's Jason La Canfora."


Remind me again where it says this blog is for news tidbits only, and not for his own comments or ideas, rational or otherwise?

Posted by: 4-12 | January 9, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Danny's New Conference, One Week From Today:

I looked at all our options and interviewed several excellent candidates. And I came to a simple conclusion. I love our team. We have great people and great players. I listened to the players and staff. I know what we have been through together. And they told me, convinced me, that what we need is already here.

With that, our head coach is Gregg Williams


--- now if that happens, the buy-in from the current players would be total. The respect for Danny 'listening' would be tremendous. And a lot of FAs that are interested in winning would want to be part of that culture.

So why do I expect Danny to mess it up?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 9, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Isn't it amazing how many less Cowboys there are on the AP all pro roster than are going to the probowl?

I hate that every tool in amaerica likes Dallas and has all day to sit there and vote for them.

Posted by: sams3 | January 9, 2008 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Leadership, in its simplest form, means taking care of your people. If you do, they will take care of you. This principle applies to any organization. I think that is what JG did, and I hope Dan Snyder learned it from him. If he did, the skins will do well for a long time to come.

Posted by: Markin21132 | January 9, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Again, the beat reporter shows he has no idea what he is talking about. Vegas odds mean one thing and one thing only: gamblers will bet on the spread provided. Vegas odds are NOT predictions in any way, shape, or form.

When you see a team is favored by 3 points, Vegas is not predicting that said team will win by 3, they are merely saying that half of all money gambled on one side of that line, and half will be gambled on the other. When a line moves, it's because more money has been bet on one side.

Vegas is not in the predicting business. They are in the money making business. The make their money on the "juice," which is usually 10% of the bet. Thus, their hope is that they break even on the amount of money bet on each side of the line, and therefore they ideally take home 10% with each bet.

The reason Brian Billick's name is on this list has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that he may or may not become the next head coach of the skins. It simply means the oddsmakers believe some gamblers out there will bet on Billick. Nothing more, nothing less.

I love how this beat reporter doesn't even understand the most basic aspects of the issues he is assigned to cover...

Posted by: Barno1 | January 9, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Oops, I did it again, Nate. Got "Mr." Chong on the mind for some reason today. *ahem*

Posted by: 4-12 | January 9, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

how do you figure we won't need a draft pick to get Brennan? he is projected by most everybody as a 2nd or 3rd rounder.......and if we resign Collins we have no need to draft a QB to be third string, just sign a younger vet, like one of the McCowns, or Rattay. They hold the clipboard cheap.

Posted by: zjfr2 | January 9, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Barno, final response.

Of course winning the Super Bowl is what all owners aspire to, BUT... ONE, repeat ONE team wins the Super Bowl each year. So there is a 1/32 chance of winning in any given year, and you won't find out if you have until after the last game of the year. With me so far?

That notwithstanding, you need to make lots of money every year; to service debt, pay players, protect the value of your investment, whatever.

You could go the "no big name coach, partly no name team" route and wait until the end of the season to find out if you've got a winner (and a profit), or you could buy yourself the highest-profile names, both coaches AND players available as often as possible, and feed/ride the wave of fan expectation (and season ticket sales, and jersey sales) and NOT have to win it all, or even get all that close to make plenty of money.

I'm not saying that Snyder doesn't want to win, who doesn't, but which of those business strategies do you think he's been using?

Seriously dude, look up the word "monomaniac".

Posted by: Redcoat | January 9, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Yo, Barno. Search for 'Redskins Insider' on the Post website. Here's what comes up:


"Redskins Insider
News, thoughts and comments on the Redskins from The Post's Jason La Canfora."


Remind me again where it says this blog is for news tidbits only, and not for his own comments or ideas, rational or otherwise?

Posted by: 4-12 | January 9, 2008 03:55 PM

Similarly, if you search "Barno" you come back with, "Nothing is more vicious than a woman scorn over a DVD."

Posted by: sams3 | January 9, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Barno, you gotta know its all just good fun. You and that DVD are lore. I'm a little surprised that, after your cross-country flight, the NW peeps didn't get the thing and autograph it for you themselves.

Ah well, this place is just what it is ... flap jacks ... oats ... Fiesta magazine ... maps ... hemmies ... such as ...

Posted by: dcsween | January 9, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

beep*beep

Posted by: JustMe | January 9, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

another possibility....

since everyone hates Colt Brennan

Joe Flaco
College: Deleware
Height: 6-6 Weight: 236
40 Time 4.92
Rated #7 out of 116 QB's

RAT 144.9 | YDS 4,263 | TD 23

completed 63.5% of his passes senior year

Posted by: trailblazer658 | January 9, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Snyder now has the opportunity to do something stupid. That's the suspense. Will he do something stupid like hire someone from outside the organization? If he does it will show he learned nothing these four years.

Posted by: skinfanman | January 9, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

That Barno, he can fuss.
Fuss, fuss... I think he like to scream at us.
Probably he means no harm.
He's really very short on charm.
You have a great gift for rhyme.
Yes, yes, some of the time.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | January 9, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Colt's great, but he will be drafted. Right now they have him at round 2-3 area, but his combine is huge for him. He played in what is viewed as a weak conference, played in June Jones' run and gun, and did not have a good bowl game. I would love to see Colt on the Skins, but I think he will be gone long before they have the luxury to think QB.

Posted by: curtmcgurt | January 9, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

beep beep like such as.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | January 9, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Isn't it amazing how many less Cowboys there are on the AP all pro roster than are going to the probowl?

I hate that every tool in amaerica likes Dallas and has all day to sit there and vote for them.

Posted by: sams3 | January 9, 2008 03:56 PM

Isn't it amazing sams3 doesn't realize that the All Pro team is for the entire NFL and not one for each conference? The Cowgirls have more All Pros than any team except the Pats, and were there an All Pro team for each conference like there is for the Pro Bowl, there would obviously be a lot more Cowgirls on there.

Posted by: Barno1 | January 9, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Z excellent post...gibbs restored a lost tradition of being a redskin...one the NFL's most storied franchises....snyder can undo that if he makes a bad decision here....I posted before that williams makes the most sense and any move for anyone outside equals total rebuild and we are a team still built for now so any rebuild will be very painful and run by a front office we have no confidence in building a team from scratch...not a very good combination....I hope we keep it going, if williams proves to be a failure then we have to start over but give him the shot.....Markin its ok to be a little taken by CP ....but I warned you...Gov nice to hear from you too....I think CP's intangibles (heart) and his blocking are his value to this team...His running and play making to me anyway are nothing special....his style is suited more to be 230/240 he is big man trapped in a little body...he is dependable and tough and durable (so far) and that in itself makes him a good player, add that to his heart and blocking and I see where you are comming from

Posted by: Oldschool | January 9, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Isn't it amazing how many less Cowboys there are on the AP all pro roster than are going to the probowl?

I hate that every tool in amaerica likes Dallas and has all day to sit there and vote for them.

Posted by: sams3 | January 9, 2008 03:56 PM

Isn't it amazing sams3 doesn't realize that the All Pro team is for the entire NFL and not one for each conference? The Cowgirls have more All Pros than any team except the Pats, and were there an All Pro team for each conference like there is for the Pro Bowl, there would obviously be a lot more Cowgirls on there.

Posted by: Barno | January 9, 2008 04:11 PM


HAHAHAHA!!! Sams3 you just got "tooled" by Barno. Not to mention the All Pro team doesn't go 3 deep like the pro bowl team does at many positions.

Sams you really must be a moron.

Posted by: Barno1 | January 9, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

"Joe Gibbs restored respect, pride and dignity to this organization. If I was a FA five years ago, I'd think of the Redskins in terms of my paycheck and nothing more. Now, I think that might be a pretty special place to work.

If you are mgmt, which guy do you want? The guy who sees the Skins as something special or the guy who wants to max out his paycheck.

That is the issue Danny really has to deal with.

I think its worth taking a risk on GG, keep this team together, keep its chemistry and realize it is about the people. It could well succeed. But even if it fails, you still have respect. And that goes a long way in this league. "
Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 9, 2008 03:44 PM

Right on Z, and worth this reposting!

Posted by: forces | January 9, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

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