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Elton Brown Set to Visit Redskins Park Today

Jason Reid and Jason La Canfora report:

Four-year veteran Elton Brown, a guard-tackle with Arizona, is scheduled to visit Redskins Park today, a league source said.

The Redskins hope to replace longtime right tackle Jon Jansen, considered the offensive line's weakest link last season, and Brown, who was born in Hampton, Va., and played at Virginia, could be a cost-effective option.

Meanwhile, we're continuing to pursue T.O. developments. At this point, all we can say is that we're hearing that the Redskins will be discussing the matter. As soon as we get something definitive, obviously, we'll let you know. This figures to be another late one. Later.

By Cindy Boren  |  March 5, 2009; 10:54 AM ET
 
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CINDY EVER HEARD OF WWW.ROTOWORLD.COM ??

NO REASON TO "CALL AROUND" or USE YOUR "INSIDER SKILLS"

After calling around the league, ESPN's Chris Mortensen says the Redskins, Vikings, and Ravens are all very unlikely to show interest in Terrell Owens.
Mort was definitive with the Redskins, saying "No way." Owens clashed with Vikings coach Brad Childress in Philly, and Ravens coach John Harbaugh was there as well. Both saw how divisive Owens could be up close, and reportedly want no part of him. With early reports suggesting the New York teams as unlikely landing spots, Oakland looks like the most logical destination.
Related: Ravens, Redskins

Posted by: slimbo-Rice | March 5, 2009 11:05 AM | Report abuse

alton Brown...The TV food guy?

Here are his stats:

http://www.foodnetwork.com/alton-brown/bio/index.html

Posted by: chrislarry | March 5, 2009 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Cap Issues? What Cap Issues.

WE ARE ATLEAST $8MIL UNDER THE CAP! My goodness......

And yes, holla at Dan Daly and he could hand that over to you.......

It dosen't take 'League Sources' to figure that out.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 5, 2009 11:07 AM | Report abuse

twis, how big is this cat?

seems like he's got the skills based on that writeup.

Posted by: BeantownGreg

6-5 273 lbs.

Don't we already have a Montgomery that fits this bill? Move him to DE if that's the case.

Posted by: bigfish761

It could be an option, however I don't know how easy it is to make that transition.

Posted by: TWISI | March 5, 2009 11:05 AM

Posted by: TWISI | March 5, 2009 11:08 AM | Report abuse

REDSKINS OUT OF THE T.O. SWEEPSTAKES, TOO
Posted by Mike Florio on March 5, 2009, 11:01 a.m.

Well, on the bright side we’ve given Easterbook some fodder for 2010.

Our initial knee-jerk reaction to the news that Terrell Owens had involuntarily gained his freedom from the Cowboys was that Owens would most likely land with the Redskins or the Giants.

And, already, both teams have reportedly said no.

Chris Mortensen of ESPN reports that the Redskins have issued an adamant “no thanks” regarding the possibility of signing Owens.

(We’ve separately heard that agent Drew Rosenhaus had already placed a call to the team about T.O.)

Mort raises a good point about the Redskins’ position — they weren’t interested three years ago, when Owens was three years younger.

That said, we thought that it would be different this time. Joe Gibbs is gone, and Jim Zorn is running an offense to which Owens is perfectly suited. And, by signing defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth, the Redskins seem to be attempting to put the piece in place to buy a title in 2009.

Maybe they are, but they’re going to do so without signing Terrell Owens.

Posted by: matthewvickers | March 5, 2009 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Solid player, YOUNG, and a local. Me like.

Posted by: REDneckSKINhead | March 5, 2009 11:09 AM | Report abuse

They discuss everybody that is released. That dosen't mean, they are thinking about getting him.

Why would we when the skins shut him down the past 3 years save for the time ST21 was injured? That makes NO sense.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 5, 2009 11:09 AM | Report abuse

Here's my case fir DE since I've been griping about signing DE's just for their size and age.

Move Monty or Gholston to DE, bring Tank Johnson in to play DT. If people want Igor and this other Monty guy just because they are big and young and can stop the run then what's the difference? (besides the obvious "he's never played DE before"). Neither has Igor pretty much since a 3-4 DE is comparable to playing DT in a 4-3.

Posted by: bigfish761 | March 5, 2009 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: bigfish761 | March 5, 2009 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Brown better be amazing considering we can't cut Jansen and are poised to draft a lineman. Draft fools draft!!!!!

Sign Igor Olshansky!!!! Then take a hard look at signing Torry Holt (32) who will be released by March 17th for cap reasons. Forget TO!!! Even Holt is risky.


After that, it's easy. Draft oline, lb, and find a dirt cheap scatback who can take a short pass or outside run for 60 yards. How we will find money for all this is beyond me but that is the clear route to take here.

Posted by: bosa_18 | March 5, 2009 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Wow -- a legit post! Once in a while, RI still gives us useful nuggets of info.

But not enough info. Was this guy a starter? If so, was he considered a strong point of a line in AZ that didn't run-block very well, or a weak link? There just isn't enough info here. Can someone else do the homework and let us know?

Posted by: jcabana | March 5, 2009 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Write up on the Elton Brown

Grade 59
Expert's Take Brown is a fourth-year player who is a backup guard and tackle. He was a backup all year in 2008, but did start five games for Arizona in 2007. He has very good size and strength. He is better suited athletically to play inside at guard rather than outside on the edge versus speed-rushers. He has good initial quickness in the run game, but tends to be upright on contact. Brown has a strong upper body to control and steer defenders, but his footwork is inconsistent to sustain angles. He shows average balance and body control, which limits his ability to finish or adjust versus quickness. In pass protection, he has average foot speed and lateral quickness. He is effective on the short set in a confined area where his size and strength can lock on quickly. His lack of foot quickness will cause him to lean and get overextended versus quicker players who can change direction and get on his edge. Overall, Brown still has upside as a guard due to his size and strength, but he lacks top athleticism as an offensive tackle.

Posted by: TWISI | March 5, 2009 11:11 AM | Report abuse

I am not the biggest Heyer luva...but i'd rather let him get the job than this cat. Sounds like a dud.

Posted by: chrislarry | March 5, 2009 11:13 AM | Report abuse

That Profootballtalk article made my day. Thank you for once Danny.

Posted by: rbruce2 | March 5, 2009 11:15 AM | Report abuse

As a Cville resident I can tell you Brown was a stud at UVA and was considered a better prospect than any of Ferguson, Albert, and Monroe. He started the run the school has head on highly drafted lineman. He has struggled in Arizona, but so did Leonard Davis before getting out of there, I think he'd be a great signing. And thank God we're not interested in the popcorn boy.

Posted by: zjfr2 | March 5, 2009 11:15 AM | Report abuse

That scouting report is similar to what they said about Leonard Davis a while back (same team too). Not a good tackle prospect but can play guard. Look what happened when Dallas played him at guard. He went to the Pro Bowl.

Posted by: bigfish761 | March 5, 2009 11:15 AM | Report abuse

I can't wait for the punting competition in training camp.

O what is that you say? We have only one punter on the roster? Whats his name? Zac Atterberry?

I can only hope Durant Brooks comes in to compete.

Posted by: matthewvickers | March 5, 2009 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Seems like Brown would be a good G/T replacement for Fabini. Does he play special teams?

Posted by: siris | March 5, 2009 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Reid now you are talken this is the kind of stuff you need to be writing about.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 5, 2009 11:16 AM | Report abuse

He has struggled in Arizona, but so did Leonard Davis before getting out of there, I think he'd be a great signing. And thank God we're not interested in the popcorn boy.

Posted by: zjfr2 | March 5, 2009 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Ah - Another great mind

Posted by: bigfish761 | March 5, 2009 11:16 AM | Report abuse

You had me at Morocco. YES, YES, Amen to that.

Morocco is da MAN. He can put a team together that'll take us to the Promised Land.

Posted by: SmashMouth | March 5, 2009 11:08 AM | Report abuse

So I had you at the last word of my post. Cool.

And I also first read the header for this and said Alton Brown???? Is Danny hungry?

Posted by: alex35332 | March 5, 2009 11:17 AM | Report abuse

It all depends on the contract. I was never too impressed with a lineman that's struggled to play for the Cardinals his entire career, so as a cheap flyer, sure, but certainly not a solution to anything.

Posted by: psps23 | March 5, 2009 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Alex...see the second post on this thread...

Posted by: chrislarry | March 5, 2009 11:18 AM | Report abuse

Elton Brown was an All American in 2004 and was picked in the 4th round of the draft in 2005. Top blocker in the ACC 2 years in a row, team captain and huge SACK PREVENTION blocker.

I don't know much about his production with the Cardinals other than his skills at preventing sacks, but he was a valued member of the team at UVA and a hard worker. Versatile, also plays on special teams.

Posted by: klg2a | March 5, 2009 11:19 AM | Report abuse

He's a guard, that's what he played in college and that's all he ever should have played in the NFL, however, like Brandon Albert next to Monroe, Brown was next to Ferguson (Jets) and was so good people thought he could play tackle. I honestly think, if we just keep him at guard he could take over for Thomas.

Posted by: zjfr2 | March 5, 2009 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Washington Times reports:

Seattle offensive tackle Ray Willis became the first free agent to visit Redskin Park when he came to Ashburn on Wednesday.

Willis, 26, could supplant veteran Jon Jansen as the right side starter, something Stephon Heyer failed to do in his second season last year.

This happened yesterday -- why doesn't the Post have it?

Posted by: billjohnson1 | March 5, 2009 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Top Ten Reasons Why I'm 80% Unfortunately Certain T.O. Will be a Redskin in 24-48 Hours
1) If the Danny can't build a 1 Billion Dollar Stadium like his boy, Botox Jerry in Dallas, at least he can get a guy to go dance on the center star after he scores just to piss Jerry off
2) Vinny Cerrato helped draft T.O. in San Fran and so he wants to bring proof to D.C. to dispell the 7 years of actual proof that he can't draft players after the 1st round successfully to save his life
3) The Danny and Drew Rosenhaus are tight as can be and if the Danny doesn't blow the budget (who needs an OL under 35 anyway or more than 2 LB's?) on T.O., Drew will stop supplying the Danny with hair gel and styling tips
4) We need someone to "balance out" Portis' ego on offense and try to motivate him to play better by having to make him prove who the bigger primadonna on the offense is?
5) We'd never want to do anything to stunt Jason Campbell's growth as a good qb in this league, especially since this will be his first year in the pro's with an O coordinator coming back for a 2nd straight year and keeping the same system in place; heaven forbid we make it easy on him, especially in his contract year
6) The Danny just read the book written by Robert Craft in NE name "How to Win Friends and Convince Diva WR's who Wear Number 81 to Sack their EGO and Play Team Football" and is convinced he can replicate the same thing here and is blown away by the similarities in the situations between NE and Wash including both having great front office structure, MVP Winning QBS, Multiple Super Bowl titles, etc... ( he just forgot Craft was talking about the present circumstance and the Danny was reliving his teenage years of watching the Redskins of the 1980's and early 90's)
7) The Danny swears him and Art Monk are tight and that Art owes him one since the Danny through him a swank Hall of Fame party last year so he's pretty convinced he can talk Art into letting T.O. wear number 81 in the burgandy and gold
8) If we have the highest payroll in football, the Danny is convinced that will bring us a championship and make us invincible. It's guaranteed right? At least his buddy George Steinnbrenner says it will...
9) The Danny thinks the Eagles and Cowboys have no clue what they're talking about, I'm sure they're just putting up smokescreens in hopes that the Redskins don't sign T.O. because they don't want to be looking up at us in the standings
10) Chemistry, that's just a class the Danny failed in high school, right? He's spent over a decade not thinking or worrying about chemistry and screwing over fans, so why stop now?

Posted by: Hammertime44 | March 5, 2009 11:19 AM | Report abuse

If he can't start for grimm, he wont start for Buges...

Posted by: chrislarry | March 5, 2009 11:19 AM | Report abuse

You think Russ Grimm gave up any insider info on the guy?

Posted by: bigfish761 | March 5, 2009 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Why are we talking about ELTON JOHN?

Posted by: slimbo-Rice | March 5, 2009 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Elton Brown was a beast at UVA. He consistently punished D-Lineman. He would be a great signing.

Posted by: RedskinJim1 | March 5, 2009 11:22 AM | Report abuse

thanks for the post on Willis. Good to hear that the times has reporters who are doing their jobs.

Posted by: BeantownGreg | March 5, 2009 11:22 AM | Report abuse

All signs point to Leonard Davis part II and I like it. The Cards have been known for playing O lineman out of their natural position and this is just that case from what I'm seeing.

I'll take a Leonard Davis like player at guard any day. This is a replacement for Randy Thomas who we never know whether he's going to be healthy or not. I like.

Posted by: bigfish761 | March 5, 2009 11:22 AM | Report abuse

From previous post.

"Kelly impressed at times in practice and is respected for his approach and dedication, but he was limited because of knee problems and is recovering from offseason knee surgery."

I thought Kelly had the knee scoped during the season and was forgoing offseason surgery. Details?

Posted by: skinswest | March 5, 2009 11:23 AM | Report abuse

If he can't start for grimm, he wont start for Buges...

Posted by: chrislarry | March 5, 2009 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Davis couldn't start for Grimm and was let go to FA and now he's a Pro Bowler. He's miscast, the guy was DOMINANT at UVA and at the very least would be a upgrade over the depth we have inside now. I'd rather have him then Kendall.

Posted by: zjfr2 | March 5, 2009 11:24 AM | Report abuse

I'd expect a beep beep shortly once the Post figures out what the times is reporting...

Posted by: BeantownGreg | March 5, 2009 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Willis AND Davis part 2. Bring them in and we're done with O-line signings and can focus on D in the draft.

Posted by: bigfish761 | March 5, 2009 11:25 AM | Report abuse

ESPN Reporting Cowboys cut Safety Roy Williams.

Posted by: hokiesmokie | March 5, 2009 11:25 AM | Report abuse

CL
I did. That said Alton would be good at breaking down game film, he is a detail guy.. :)

Posted by: alex35332 | March 5, 2009 11:25 AM | Report abuse

A Grimm coached lineman? Bring him in (unless Grimm hated the guy of course, lol)

My $.02 on TO. No effing way. Think Zorn had problems with Portis? Don't need more headcases on offense.

Posted by: skinswest | March 5, 2009 11:26 AM | Report abuse

"All signs point to Leonard Davis part II and I like it."

Come on dude, be serious. Has it really gotten to the point where you value the fact that he was a career underachiever for the Cardinals?

I'm fine with bringing him on board, so long as it's cheap, and so long as it's not an immediate solution to anything.

Posted by: psps23 | March 5, 2009 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Willis or Brown, it's a toss up. I hope we land one of the two.

My understanding about Kelly was that at the end of training camp they scoped his knee and then again during the season.

He may or may not have had another surgery during the offseason? I don't know. But a knee scope is a knee scope. Pretty common procedure when it comes to an athletes knees.

Posted by: matthewvickers | March 5, 2009 11:29 AM | Report abuse

The Times is really got it all over the Post:

"An NFL source in position to know such things said the Washington Redskins have absolutely no interest in Terrell Owens, the stud/problem child receiver who was released late last night by the Cowboys"

Posted by: BeantownGreg | March 5, 2009 11:30 AM | Report abuse

OK he excelled in the ACC, so he should be beast in the NFC East..

Posted by: chrislarry | March 5, 2009 11:31 AM | Report abuse

There is no way Elton Brown could play tackle. He is being brought here as a guard to eventually replace Randy Thomas. Skins still need a tackle!

Posted by: fj8152001 | March 5, 2009 11:31 AM | Report abuse

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLL so Redskins Insider totally missed Patrick Willis visiting Redskins Park yesterday and got scooped by their rivals' blog. Obviously info is purposefully being held back from the two J's.

Posted by: eghblaw | March 5, 2009 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Sign Crowell, Brown, and Willis and take Orakpo at 13. HTTR!

Posted by: hokiesmokie | March 5, 2009 11:33 AM | Report abuse

OK he excelled in the ACC, so he should be beast in the NFC East..

Posted by: chrislarry | March 5, 2009 11:31 AM |

Come on CL, there practically the same division.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 5, 2009 11:33 AM | Report abuse

"The Times is really got it all over the Post:"

Great sounds like an easy solution then for all the posters who hate the post coverage. Go populate their blog.

beantown, gotta link?

Posted by: chrislarry | March 5, 2009 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Ray Willis ia a backup. Believe me Seattle would have resigned him quickly if they thought he was any good.

Posted by: fj8152001 | March 5, 2009 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 5, 2009 11:35 AM | Report abuse

All signs point to Leonard Davis part II and I like it."

Come on dude, be serious. Has it really gotten to the point where you value the fact that he was a career underachiever for the Cardinals?

I'm fine with bringing him on board, so long as it's cheap, and so long as it's not an immediate solution to anything.

Posted by: psps23 | March 5, 2009 11:27 AM | Report abuse

They said the same about Davis. How's he doing now?

Posted by: bigfish761 | March 5, 2009 11:35 AM | Report abuse

The Raiders and Seahawks are also interested in Willis, whose addition would allow the Redskins to focus their attentions on filling the holes at strongside linebacker and left defensive end with the rest of their $6 million in salary cap room (which also has to accommodate the rookies they'll pick up in April's draft).

Only 6 mil??? I thought we had more cap room.

Posted by: slimbo-Rice | March 5, 2009 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Any chance the Skins sign Roy Williams and make him an OLB? He hits like one, plays well in the box, but I realize he is a bit small...

Posted by: BigE44 | March 5, 2009 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Guard-tackle? But can he play Mike guard-tackle?

Posted by: dcsween | March 5, 2009 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Ray Willis ia a backup. Believe me Seattle would have resigned him quickly if they thought he was any good.

Posted by: fj8152001 | March 5, 2009 11:33 AM |


Difference is they have a good starting RT we don't, so for them he's a backup for us or another team he can be a starter.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 5, 2009 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Even if the Skins sign Willis (RT depth) and Brown (RG Depth/Competition) we'd still need to go 1 of top 4 OT in the draft.

Both players relatively cheap would be nice but doesn't change the fact that we need starting RT, LDE, SLB.

Posted by: Sheriff_Gonna_Getcha | March 5, 2009 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Any chance the Skins sign Roy Williams and make him an OLB? He hits like one, plays well in the box, but I realize he is a bit small...

Posted by: BigE44 | March 5, 2009 11:37 AM |

He's not that good in coverage either.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 5, 2009 11:38 AM | Report abuse

http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/redskins/

cl, all I'm saying is that this whole spitting/pissing contest between Jla, and VC is hurting no-one but JLa. He doesn't get information because VC and he don't get along, he gets information hours later. It's just laughable at this point....I mean, they didn't even report on the Willis visit from yesterday.

Posted by: BeantownGreg | March 5, 2009 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Maybe Hall didn't 'officially' sign until after JTMoFo was released.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 5, 2009 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Do not any part of the Cowboy's castaways.

Posted by: matthewvickers | March 5, 2009 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Willis started 10 games last year at RT, and did a good job he would be a starter here.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 5, 2009 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Jansen has been a good Redskins player. But it's time to cut bait. The Skins having a pretty good off season,that's nothing new,but some of these are good moves. Beef up that OL.Sweet.

Posted by: ridgely1 | March 5, 2009 11:41 AM | Report abuse

There is a rival blog? Really?

The Times blog calling RI their rival is like Ravens fans calling the Redskins a rival. RI's rival blog is the one owned by Redskins.com

Posted by: alex35332 | March 5, 2009 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Also, we have a starting caliber RT on the Roster already.

His name is Stephon Heyer. Get to know him.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 5, 2009 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Do not want* any part of the Cowboy's castaways.

Posted by: matthewvickers | March 5, 2009 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Those of you that say Brown is a dud, keep in mind that if he came here he would be working with Buges.

Buges knows how to get the most out of his guys. IF we sign Brown on the cheap Im for it. When he came out of UVA he was initially projected as a 1st round talent. This could be intresting.

Posted by: DMoney28 | March 5, 2009 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Btgreg, I don't think JLa (or anybody else) EVER got information from Vinny (minus national media sources to whom Vinny would want to feed a story line). WaPo says they have a two source minimum (for confirmation) before publishing. [Not sure whether it applies to this here blog or the twitterpation.]

Posted by: dcsween | March 5, 2009 11:43 AM | Report abuse

This guy should be able to pass protect

Posted by: Sports_Guru | March 5, 2009 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Maybe Hall didn't 'officially' sign until after JTMoFo was released.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 5, 2009 11:40 AM | Report abuse

He didn't. I put that up here the other day.

Posted by: bigfish761 | March 5, 2009 11:43 AM | Report abuse

No ex-cowboy has ever worked for the skins and I think vice versa.

Posted by: alex35332 | March 5, 2009 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Why don't we sign Roy Williams and another CB with some speed then switch to a Dime defense, you could but Rocky on the line to fill that hole. It would totally work in Madden haha... SIGH...we are so screwed.

Posted by: hokiesmokie | March 5, 2009 11:44 AM | Report abuse

bigfish

It's not that Brown is the best, but is he a servicable professional who can step in and stabilize the position.

Finding a dependable rt allows the team to take Orakpo/Maybin/Jenkins at 13 and use the 3rd round pick rather liberally.

I know nothing about Elton Brown, but the name conjures images of a tiny dancer, who, like an expert rocket man, allows the team to say good-bye to norma jean and Jon Jansen.

Jansen, btw, is just a candle in the wind.

Signing Elton Brown is a yellow brick road the skins should head down.

It would give us, and not philadelphia, the freedam to do as we please.

They can say daniel signed and made the fans happy.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 5, 2009 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Maybe Hall didn't 'officially' sign until after JTMoFo was released.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 5, 2009 11:40 AM

I'm saying "probably" rather than "maybe" ... there were $$ numbers they need to stay within for the purposes of the league year.

Also, based on what someone up here said, I thought Jansen had cut-protection because it costs (alot) more to cut him than to keep him. Seeking confirmation from the blerg peeps.

Posted by: dcsween | March 5, 2009 11:45 AM | Report abuse

dc,

True on Jansen, not sure on the other stuff.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 5, 2009 11:47 AM | Report abuse

There is a rival blog? Really?

The Times blog calling RI their rival is like Ravens fans calling the Redskins a rival. RI's rival blog is the one owned by Redskins.com


Posted by: alex35332 | March 5, 2009 11:41 AM

But they (Times) are #1 in 'source' info. No competition in that regard.......

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 5, 2009 11:48 AM | Report abuse

MistaMoe, consider yourself outed (not that there's anything wrong with that).

Also, my (conspiratorial) hunch is that Evans was not re-signed because, in part, Jasno was pimping him as making such a step up in the early part of the season. Frankly, I'm surprised Rock Cartwright has remained on the roster so long given how much Jasno has given him props.

Posted by: dcsween | March 5, 2009 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Meanwhile, we're continuing to pursue T.O. developments. At this point, all we can say is that we're hearing that the Redskins will be discussing the matter. As soon as we get something definitive, obviously, we'll let you know. This figures to be another late one. Later.


By Cindy Boren

TO would probably be the best thing that could happen to our offense.

We need TDS. We need a WR that will free up Santana. We need a big target. We need a passing game that will unleash Portis.

PICKING UP TO MAKES PERFECT FOOTBALL SENSE!

This is why I am the guru, and you guys are the noobs.

Posted by: Sports_Guru | March 5, 2009 11:50 AM | Report abuse

'...There is a rival blog? Really?...'


I've reviewed them and can honestly say they lack the vim, vigor, and overall snarkiness that lubricates the engine that is RI Nayshun.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 5, 2009 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Roy Williams is a terrible safety. He is only scary because he doesn't care if a horse collar tackle is illegal; he'll still do it. he can't cover and he's been a Cowboy his entire career.

Could move him to LB? Like he's any better of a SAM LB than H.B Blades is?

Posted by: matthewvickers | March 5, 2009 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Well it's obvious they will sign a RT in FA's, I wonder who they will bring in at LB or DE or is this were the draft is going.

I still like T with the first pick if one of the studs is there.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 5, 2009 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Also, based on what someone up here said, I thought Jansen had cut-protection because it costs (alot) more to cut him than to keep him. Seeking confirmation from the blerg peeps.

Posted by: dcsween | March 5, 2009 11:45 A

Confirmed...

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 5, 2009 11:50 AM | Report abuse

linebacker has to be first without one even with ah we aint getting to the quarterback

Posted by: mudman220 | March 5, 2009 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Look I am a problem solver. It seems many don't like it here, like the info, insult and degrade other people's views and cite other outlets.

Elfin seems like a quality newpaperman. Maybe its time for those that get such extreme agita to pick up and move and make the WaTimes/Elfin blog a hot place to be?

I'm sure if the comment section there began to rise above and average of 3 comments. Elfin would be siked. Prolly buy rounds for the locals. It could be a very good thing. Think about it!

Posted by: chrislarry | March 5, 2009 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Saw Buges chatting up L Michael on Comcast last night. He likes the o-line, saying the addition of Dockery now gives the team some depth. He said towards the end of the season, the light went on for Rhinehart and his teammates noticed and were really encouraging him. He said Jansen is going to compete for the RT spot (I think he was throwing a vet a bone on this one).

I say the team roll with Heyer at RT. I'm with the "some" in the organization that believe he can be an above-average starter. A lot of you guys keep saying he's not the answer but never offer any tangible support for your position. I offer that when he replaced Samuels late in the season he acquitted himself well on the left side and I don't believe he gave up any sacks. All of the pass protection problems were on the right with JJ.

Go Orakpo at 13 or best player available, even it's a WR. And no to Oher. No one is going to have time to hold his hand in the NFL.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | March 5, 2009 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Face it.

I was right about Jason Campbell being a mediocre loser, and I am right about T.O. being the only thing that can make Jason Campbell a better QB.

As far as Jason handling T.O. and his tantrums, he will need to toughen up for that.

Posted by: Sports_Guru | March 5, 2009 11:52 AM | Report abuse

our defensive line is supposed to block the offensive linemen so the linebackers could get to the qb. 17 sacks last year was due to the fact of our linebackers not getting to the qb

Posted by: mudman220 | March 5, 2009 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Here is Dan snyders plan for the next year

Our base D will be.

1 DT's 1 DE 2 LB 4 CBs and 3 safties

Our base O will be

1 WR 1 TE 1 FB 1 HB 1 QB 2 OT's 3 OG 1 C

Posted by: alex35332 | March 5, 2009 11:53 AM | Report abuse

"All signs point to Leonard Davis part II and I like it."

Come on dude, be serious. Has it really gotten to the point where you value the fact that he was a career underachiever for the Cardinals?

I'm fine with bringing him on board, so long as it's cheap, and so long as it's not an immediate solution to anything.

Posted by: psps23 | March 5, 2009 11:27 AM | Report abuse

They said the same about Davis. How's he doing now?

Posted by: bigfish761"

You're kidding, right?

To compare Leonard Davis to Elton Brown is like comparing Dan Wilkinson to Brandon Noble. Wilkinson may have underachieved, but he always had more physical potential than Noble.

Leonard Davis is a behemoth: a 6-foot-6 355-pound genetic freak. That's why he was so highly-touted out of college (2nd overall in the 2001 NFL Draft). Meanwhile, this Brown guy was a 4th-round pick who wasn't nearly as dominant, and never started for the Cards the way Davis did.

I'm not saying the team shouldn't sign Brown. But there is no comparison between Brown and Davis.

Posted by: jcabana | March 5, 2009 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Guru,

You have the worst solutions for helping this team out.

'Fire JC' this and 'Sign TO' that.

Really?

Posted by: matthewvickers | March 5, 2009 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Learned - You were on point until your last statemnt (Orakpo). I think he will be the bust out of the group being pimped currently......

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 5, 2009 11:56 AM | Report abuse

'Fire JC' this and 'Sign TO' that.

Really?

Posted by: matthewvickers

I now say either/or.

Either fire Jason Campbell OR Sign T.O.

Posted by: Sports_Guru | March 5, 2009 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Would love it if they signed Willis and Brown, that would be a solid infusion of youth that we are way overdue for. if they could get that done they could trade back and get a LB and Mack/Unger that would be sweet! trade down to late teens and grab Laurinitus and then get Mack if he falls (unlikely) or more likely Unger in the second.

Posted by: zjfr2 | March 5, 2009 11:56 AM | Report abuse

"I know nothing about Elton Brown, but the name conjures images of a tiny dancer, who, like an expert rocket man, allows the team to say good-bye to norma jean and Jon Jansen."

This is the kind of stuff we come here for. Come for the "Insider" info. Stay for the jibba jabba. This is why I refuse to devote my time to another Redskins blog.

Posted by: bigfish761 | March 5, 2009 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Vickers, leave "Sports_Guru" alone. Unless there's a cure for retardation, he's hopeless.

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 5, 2009 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Guru
Read this in no uncertain terms.
You sir are an idiot.

Posted by: alex35332 | March 5, 2009 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Hi everyone.

Beep beep.

Posted by: --swb | March 5, 2009 11:59 AM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: dcsween | March 5, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

T.O?

Oh yeah. Package him with Pac man and Tank Johnson and WATCH them jerseys fly off the shelves...

The fact that Snyder and Cerrato are even considering that Team Killer is indicateiv of just how very very desperate, and very very stupid they are.

Hey wait a minute. Charley Manson is coming up for parole again soon...

Posted by: TheCork | March 5, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

"He said Jansen is going to compete for the RT spot (I think he was throwing a vet a bone on this one)"

If this happens, then Buges needs to be fired on the spot....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | March 5, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Why is everyone so high on Bugel. Wasnt he the one who convinced Gibbs to resign Jansen for all that money?

Posted by: fj8152001 | March 5, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

"They said the same about (Leonard) Davis. How's he doing now?

Posted by: bigfish761"

This is equivalent to comparing Colt Brennan to Tom Brady, Devin Thomas to Roddy White, and Albert Haynesworth to Dana Stubblefield. Please, let's not start this discussion.

Posted by: psps23 | March 5, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

I'm not saying the team shouldn't sign Brown. But there is no comparison between Brown and Davis.

Posted by: jcabana | March 5, 2009 11:53 AM | Report abuse

NO comparison? Really? Their NFL careers are following the exact same path. Open up you r mind a little and stop being so pessimistic about everything.

Posted by: bigfish761 | March 5, 2009 12:01 PM | Report abuse

The Skins need to sign a few more offensive linemen, draft a couple, and then have a real competition in training camp. If Jansen no longer has it, the team needs to let him go instead of holding onto him for salary cap reasons. The always are able to manage the cap, so this shouldn't be a reason for keeping a guy who cannot play. Look at the hit the Cowboys just took by letting go of T.O. It sends a message to the team that no one gets off easy just because of their paycheck. Having said this, if Jansen comes back looking better than last year, then maybe the team hangs onto him. I'm just saying he shouldn't be around if he cannot play.

It's a shame they aren't going to be in the same position with defensive ends as they seem to be aiming for with offensive linemen. It's a doggone shame they couldn't have re-signed Demtric Evans. I'm still thinking Montgomery could play end... or maybe Lorenzo Alexander.

It seems that most of the draft forecasts have the Redskins taking a linebacker in the first round. If linebacker is what they are after, they should trade down. There will be quality in the later rounds and the Skins could use the draft picks to grab punters... um, I mean offensive linemen.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 5, 2009 12:29 PM | Report abuse

I think OL depth is an area where the Skins can improve with some FA signings. I hope they get at least one of the guys.

Posted by: verbal8 | March 5, 2009 1:25 PM | Report abuse

sportsguru: "TO would probably be the best thing that could happen to our offense.We need TDS. We need a WR that will free up Santana. We need a big target. We need a passing game that will unleash Portis."

Unfortunately, from a pure football perspective, Guru is correct. There's nothing Campbell and Zorn need more than somebody who can do what Owens does.

If only he could get a personality transplant...

Posted by: Samson151 | March 5, 2009 2:02 PM | Report abuse

yeah this guy is HUGE!

Posted by: filmchis | March 5, 2009 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Morrocco Brown, Morrocco Brown, Morrocco Brown!!!!!

Posted by: EmmPee | March 5, 2009 4:51 PM | Report abuse

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